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MERCHANT, Piers 21-Sept-2009 – IN MEMORIAM

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 21/09/2013

21-Sept IN MEMORIAM Piers MERCHANT – THREE YEARS ON!

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Piers Rolf Garfield Merchant
(born: 2 January 1951) & (died: 21 September 2009)
aged 58

Piers Merchant was a politician in the United Kingdom.
He was Conservative Member of Parliament (MP) for Beckenham, but resigned in October 1997.

Before he became an MP he was a journalist and marketing officer.

Merchant was educated at Nottingham High School and the University of Durham where he was Senior Man of University College’s JCR. He was first elected to the House of Commons at the 1983 general election, for the Newcastle Central constituency, he lost the seat at the June 1987 general election. He stood for Beckenham at the 1992 general election and won.

MPs cannot technically resign; instead he took the offices of Steward of the Manor of Northstead, which automatically led to his disqualification.

In the 2004 European Parliament election, Merchant stood for the UK Independence Party in the North East England constituency, at the top of their party list. He was not elected.

Piers Merchant worked for some years, in various capacities, for UKIP, having been at one time political advisor to Roger Knapman the UKIP leader during their sucessful 2004 election and also for a short time acted as UKIP General Secretary until a suitable individual could be found full time.

In 2005, Merchant relocated to Great Torrington in North Devon. Merchant is also a member of Mensa.

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It is with regret that I inform you that in early July 2009 Piers was diagnosed as having advanced multi site metastatic cancer, the prognosis being bleak. His wife Helen supported by their two children is with him at this time. (07-Jul-09)

It is with regret that I inform you that on 21-Sep-2009 Piers Merchant died after a short terminal illness. The cause of death was multi site metastatic cancer.

Piers Merchant leaves his wife Helen and their daughter and teenage son. Piers had faced his illness with courage, supported by his family, and leaves many friends and colleagues, Piers’ brother will find it particularly hard as their Mother had died only a matter of a few months ago after a brief terminal illness, though at a much more acceptable age.

The EUroRealist movement has lost an indefatiguable campaigner and a well informed advocate, whose contribution in UKIP has been immense. He will be remembered with affection by his many colleagues in UKIP and before that from his days as a Conservative MP and before.

It is sad that his colleagues in UKIP did so little to defend his name when he was lied about and defamed by Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny and others who claimed he had betrayed the party by being Junius when clearly he was not nor ever wrote as part of that team as proven when he died. There were even lies put forward that he had tampered with UKIP web site to send copies of eMails to him for publication on Junius.

This was clearly all too typical of the dishonesty of UKIP’s leadership team and its odious claque of self serving low lifes.

Not ONE of UKIP’s leaders or followers spoke out in his defence, either before or after his demise!

My personal condolences to their children Alethea and Rolf and to his widow Helen Merchant (nee Burrlock) whom he married in 1977. Helen loyally stood by Piers throughout the visicitudes of a colourfull and productive life, whilst maintaining a high powered career in her own right.

Much of Piers’ life was was spent in service to British liberty and democracy, though he will be remembered by many for his colourfull private life – a life too soon lost!

Further details of his life can be found in The Telegraph if you CLICK HERE

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It is terribly sad. Piers will be greatly missed by all who had the good fortune to know him, to whatever degree. My thoughts and prayers are with his family.
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UKIP Have A Skill at Getting It WRONG!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/05/2013

UKIP Have A Skill at Getting It WRONG!
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UKIP Have A Skill at Getting It WRONG!
Sadly a skill with a near perfect consistency when it comes to failure in domestic elections!!

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Farage’s latest Tory deal – deja vu all over again!

Back in 2010 when Farage had resigned as leader in order to come third in the Bucks seat to dwarf Bercow and almost get himself killed in a plane crash, his stooge leader Pearson produced his whizzo electoral pact plan in the South West that UKIP candidates should stand down in about 6 seats where there was an avowedly Eurosceptic Tory candidate to avoid spliting the right wing vote. Pearson was the UKIP leader who had not bothered to read his own General Election manifesto and resigned shortly after the May 2010 UKIP electoral failure to allow Nigel to return from his temporary Bucks exile. Pearson’s proposals were not well received by the UKIP activists in the South West. Let us hope the Hamiltons meet the same frosty reception in 2014.

Roll on 3 years to the run up to the 2015 general election and I read in today’s DT, “Farage in talks on deal with 20 Eurosceptic MPs”, is the headline. As it says in Eccelesiastes the sun rises and the sun sets and there is nothing new under the sun even the one that shines out of Farage’s bum on the poor saps in UKIP. Click on http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10081456/Nigel-Farage-I-can-do-deals-at-the-next-election-with-20-Conservative-MPs.html to read the piece now entitled, “I  can do deals with 20 Conservative MPs at next election”. Why only 20 Nigel, why not the 100 who are currently feeling their majorities. That’s the figure Nads mentions in her Sunday paper piece.

The DT piece also reveals that follwing his less than successful visit to Scotland Nigel has had to hire a team of bodyguards to protect himself in Westminster. How much is this costing UKIP? Nigel does not do paying but he is quoted that UKIP is mounting a fresh drive to recruit more white working class Labour voters. Are these the bodyguards referred to in the previous paragraph?

What will the deal be to support these untrustworthy Tories? What will be the payback to UKIP? There will of course be no details that the UKIP NEC will see because the deal will be between Farage and the Tories not UKIP and the Tories. Farage has long craved the warm feeling of red leather on his bum. That would allow him to maintain his lucrative position as MEP and obergruppenfurher in Brussels. Its a win win situation for Nigel.but on his own figures 20 UKIP activists will be shafted. Clearly a price worth paying as Nigel does not have to do the paying. Lord Farage of Brussels or even Waterloo only a few miles away.

The real politik is that Pearson has a valid point. In 2010 in Wells the LibDem Tessa Munt defeated the Euro sceptic Heathcote Amory by 800 votes with the UKIP candidate who in losing his deposited polled 1710 votes more than twice La Munt’s majority. The same thing happened at Eastleigh where if the Tories had stood down in favour of Mrs James she would have been elected as MP with a 10000+ majority and would be headed to be UKIP leader by acclamation at the next Sept conference.

The problem is one can never trust the Tories or ex-Tory Nigel Farage. My word is my bond used to be the dictum in the City but not any more. It is a conumdrum that I can see no way out of without breaching electoral law. Cameron did his sordid deal wih Clegg not for the good of the country but to get into Downing Street. Clegg did it to get his bum into the Cabinet with his dodgy cronies like Huhne and Laws. It was for the good of the country they cry. Bollocks I say self interest rules OK in politics, always has always will. It was the same when Farage tried to tell me many Tory MPs entered parliament to serve their country. I laughed. MPs serve themselves and help themselves to as much public money as they can get without going to gaol.

Clegg signed a pledge to the students in public before the last election. After he had their votes that pledge was not worth the paper it was written on. Note how that other LibDem pledge on giving constituents the power to recall MPs who break their election promised has mysteriously disappeared from the political landscape. I wonder why?

It can’t be done within our current system of  party dominated representative democracy. The only way out is the Swiss referendum way. If 10% of the electorate in a constituency demand their MP resign and contest a by-election then it happens. That would be a stiff test to pass given only 60% of the electorate bother to vote but it would provide a real discpline on our sordid MPs who get elected and thenwave two fingers at the electorate for the next 4 years.

I can hear the criticism now, its not the British way, what about the Queen etc. Well it seems to work jolly well for the Swiss who have created a great country and they don’t even have a Queen. Note however our royal family are very fond of holidays in Switzerland and ask yourself why? Even Mrs T used to go on holiday there. Its nice to stay in a country that works and lacks diversity.

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Dr. Eric Edmond blogs on a regular basis on UKIP, much of which I agree with – however his lack of answers and inability to control his temper let him down badly when he was elected to UKIP NEC and was so rapidly out manoevered by Farage and his cronies.

Out manoevered by the presentation of a pack of lies against him which he was unable to defend himself against dispassionately and his volatility lost him both the argument and friends!

That said his blog has bee a regular commentary on the follies of Farage and his cronies and also is a well informed insight into the vagieries of the banking world, which formed a considerable part of his background where with his Doctorate in mathematics his skills were exploited at the Bank of England.

I do commend that anyone seeking a clear understanding of the banking issues of Britain and the EU make a point of reading his blog regularly and along the way one will pick up some facts pertaining to the corruption of UKIP that may have passed you by.

Eric’s opinions are a good point from which to start a debate on the protocols and policies of UKIP, in as far as they have any worth discussing!

On the issue of colaboration with Tories opposed to membership of The EU Eric overlooks the previous election when Farage set out to work with EUroSceptic MPs and PPCs and working to a shortlist which I drew up aeveral UKIP PPCs stood down and all was doing well until that foul mouthed, bufoon Nattrass had a temper tantrum and decided to personally make a fool of himself standing against one of the most noted Tory EUroSceptics and also recruited the owner of his favourite Chines restaurant to stand against another!

The entire election became a total farce for UKIP with the normal catastrophic outcome, from which they had to be saved by Dr. Richard North and I dreaming up the myth that they had cost the Tories 27 seats – which Richard took forward as a paper for The Brughes Group!

It seemed essential that UKIP was given some relevance in view of their serial failures in domestic elections where even now they are realistically no closer to having an MP elected and out of over 1,700 seats contested they managed a mere 147 elected and even they seem to be falling like flies when under the spotlight!!

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Background info to the long term failure of UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/03/2013

Background info to the long term failure of UKIP
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Background information that helps to explain the long term failure of UKIP with its present inadequate self serving leadership and the unpatriotic low lifes trying to capitalise on the EU gravy train!
At the expense of EUroScepticism and Britain!

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it is interesting to note the following exchange on a UKIP controlled public forum which openly endorses the lies and dishonesty of UKIP supporters in their efforts to hide the truth about the state of the party under its present corrupt and self serving unprofessional and incompetent leadership.
  1. Yesterday, 11:51 AM #23

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    I’m always respectful I hope, I will await a reply from Michael.

  2. Today, 09:27 AM #24

    mick mcgough is offline(G.L-W.: Mick McGough is a proven liar, petty criminal, self seeker & cheat, for details & examples CLICK HERE)

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    Dustbin Lid,I regret I am unable to translate the mutterings of the senile chap in the coffee shop.I regret that I fear dementia has befallen Geoffrey as he posts a series of unrelated words.He joins Greg Liar-Wotsit in the waiting room as all the anti-UKIP Nutters are recalled to base.

    (G.L-W.: that was an example of the low grade style of a UKIP NEC member who has consistently befouled the cause with his childish posturings & general tasteless sneerings and dishonesty)
  3. Today, 11:34 AM #25

    Geoffrey Collier is online now(G.L-W. has been a dedicated member and supporter of UKIP for approaching 20 years. A retired CFollege Lecturer of some standing. Geoffrey Collier has not only officially represented UKIP on matters pertaining to the countryside & National Parks but also was a founder and chairman of UKIP’s largest branch and chaired the branch when it was the largest revenue donator of any branch in Britain.
    Geoffrey Collier has been a relentless toiler for the partyy and has worked relentlessly to try to instigate integrity, ethics, probity and honesty in an effort to try to clean up the party to make it fit for purpose.
    Geoffrey Collier, like many who aim to control the dishonest and the corrupt has received constant attacks from those who see their income stream, perks or root to the gravy train thwarted by his actions!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustbin Lid View Post
    I’m always respectful I hope, I will await a reply from Michael.
    Geoffrey Collier’s informed response:

    Dustbin Lid: Now can you see better the problems which we have in UKIP?
    Michael used to counter-sign UKIP cheques from the national account, which were agreed with UKIP’s national Treasurer Andrew Smith.
    Elected members to the NEC, who have asked to peruse those accounts, have been systematically dismissed from the NEC for making such requests.

    (G.L-W: Andrew Smith, as treasurer, was asked around 25 basic questions about the UKIP accounts, for which he was responsible, by members of the NEC – He was unable to answer the questions and to avoid facing up to his responsibilities he quit the job without notice, leaving the accounts in complete disarray – this was the man wyho eMailed individuals to lay out his plan as to how to deceive the Electoral Commision!

    At the moment there are no less than two television companies investigating UKIP’s financial affairs;

    (G.L-W: There are more!)

    no doubt there are national newspapers doing likewise.

    (G.L-W: There are numerous!)


    It is easy for people like Michael to try and dismiss these things, but the evidence is to the contrary.

    OLAF have required UKIP MEPs’ to return impermissible financial allocations.

    (G.L-W: Tom Wise, a UKIP MEP was sentenced to 2 years in prison for his fraud and Derek Clar UKIP MEP, after boasting of his defrauding the tax payers was subsequently found guilty and ordered to repay a similar sum to that which Tom Wise embezzled!
    Nigel Farage, Jeffrey Titford and Graham Booth as UKIP MEPs were also found guilty of misappropriation of tax payer’s money and ordered to repay money they had taken)


    Others, such as Stuart Agnew, admitted that he has been doing likewise.

    (G.L-W: Mike Nattrass was investigated by OLAF also and having read the conclusion/report it was clear OLAF opted to take no further action!
    Stuart Agnew & David Bannerman are both still under investigation by OLAF for fraudulent misuse of tax payers money as admitted to on camera to The Sunday Times.)


    At a time when we should be making real progress, newspapers are giving UKIP banner headlines, knowing that for UKIP, soon will dawn that day of nemesis. We are warned of ‘Greeks bearing gifts’, I say be more beware of national newspapers deliberately building you up, for the delight of knocking you down.

    (G.L-W: Many will be aware, or may even have seen, the evicerating comments of Andrew Neal with regard to Farage & UKIP, since the somewhat febrile achievements at Eastleigh!)

    In UKIP the cause has been impeccable; while the membership has given of their time, efforts and generosity year-on-year, unstintingly. But it would be foolish to say that they have been given the leadership which they deserve.

    NEC member Mr Mcgough makes inane comments, for that is the best that he can do.

    You know that I am right, don’t you Michael?

    If you analyse the composition of the leadership, it comprises two distinct parts.

    There are one or two whom we can trust, but there is a cluster of genuine ignoramuses; for a good salary they would say anything.

    The other group is comprised of those with damaged reputations ( e.g. Neil Hamilton) and Lord Monckton, who had to be advised that he is not an ‘honorary member of the House of Lords, and to inform American Senators that he is, has no basis in fact.

    These people make the management of the Party more manageable than the talented people, who are seen as an immediate threat to the existing status-quo. Surely that cannot be seriously denied?

    We have survived the years, and for some decades, of espousing a message that was not popular. Now that our time has come, we are to be harmed by internal corruption which has existed unabated for years.

    We had an opportunity to deal with our own problems, and unsavoury people, but we chose to do nothing.

    Now that our cause has genuine political capital, there will be others who will embrace it as their own, and UKIP’s past misdeeds shall return to haunt them.

    That is sad; but it must be what is awaiting UKIP.

    Last edited by Geoffrey Collier; Today at 11:39 AM.

  4. Today, 11:38 AM #26

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    Oh dear, it seems there has been some rather disappointing behavior from some.

It is interesting to note the endless lies of Mick McGough as he and others in UKIP’s corrupt leadership by self serving ne’er do wells desperately try to hide their corruption by seeking to denigrate and defame people like Geoffrey Collier, Niall Warry, The Junius Team, Nikki Sinclaire, myself and others.

The endless claims of my misleading people and claims that I have lied on my blog are risible – in well over 2,000 blog postings and probably the same number of Forum entries, YouTube contributions, Twitters, eMails and the like NOT ONCE have UKIP their lawyers, sock puppets, leadership, NEC members nor even their claque of cowardly anonymous supporters EVER been able to identify a single consequential fact which I have got wrong, with regard to UKIP & its people, let alone any sign of a deliberate lie – would that the same could be said of UKIP & its leadership.

Were UKIP able to show, in like manner, their ethical behaviour, integrity and probity perhaps they would not have been such an abject failure in representing the EUroSceptic cause and just might have attracted not just support of consequence, some gravitas, a flicker of leadership, an iota of professionalism and even perhaps someone elected to an office of consequence in a domestic election!
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Farage’s UKIP sure knows how to damage EUroScepticism

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/02/2013

Farage’s UKIP sure knows how to damage EUroScepticism
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Nigel Farage the self serving leader UKIP sure knows how to damage The EUroSceptic movement in Britain – and at the end of the day the damage done may well lead to EUroSceptics failing to win the vote to Leave-The-EU in David Cameron‘s clearly fudged claims to be running a Referendum some time in the hazy distant future IF he is re-elected!!

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Is UKIP really a ‘Nigel Farage dictatorship’ rife with sexism?

by Mary Honeyball

11 February 2013

UKIP seems to be a party filled with anti-women sentient – it is a one man band and it is all about Nigel Farage, or so it certainly seems, claims Labour Party MEP “A woman’s place is cleaning behind the fridge.” Well that’s what they seem to believe in UKIP. Indeed, in 2004 UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom said just this and the events which unfolded last week shows little has changed in the intervening years since Bloom made such remarks.

It would be laughable if it was not so damaging, offensive and humiliating for those on the receiving end. So it is hardly a surprise to learn that the party’s only female MEP might have suffered alleged discrimination from within the party. But it was a surprise to see Marta Andreasen MEP launch a searing attack on the leader of the party Nigel ‘too much air time’ Farage.

She has said of Farage: “He doesn’t try to involve intelligent professional women in positions of responsibility in the party. He thinks women should be in the kitchen or in the bedroom.” Andreasen continued by telling the BBC (to view the article CLICK HERE) that she had been openly criticised by her party leader and other MEPs, claiming that this amounted to bullying.

“I’ve been bullied, in private situations, for decisions I have made by Nigel,” she said. “I have been accused of being disloyal, breaching confidence and breaching my contract with the party. There’s an attitude that either you keep silent about everything that’s been going on in the party or suffer the consequences.” Andreasen said she believed Farage – who was re-elected as leader in 2010 after standing down a year earlier to contest a Westminster seat – “did not like women” although this is purely her opinion and allegation.

I have appeared alongside Andreasen before on the BBC’s Newsnight programme and her views were some of the most thoughtful that I have seen come out of UKIP. We should give weight to what she says because what she is demonstrating is that UKIP seems to be a party filled with anti-women sentient. It is a one man band and it is all about Farage, or so it certainly seems.

Andreasen who, represents South East England in the European Parliament, has said she will not stand again. Still, this is a brave thing to do – to reveal a bullying culture at the highest level of the party while she is still in office and to do it so publically is courageous. She also claims in an interview with LondonlovesBusiness.com that Farage runs his party like some kind of dictatorship:

“Under his leadership – and I have questioned his leadership obviously a number of times – the party has become a dictatorship,” she said. “This is a Stalinist way of operating and he doesn’t care about the membership or the grassroots.”

We also should not forget former UKIP MEP Nikki Sinclaire – a lesbian, who won a sex discrimination case against her former colleagues on a default judgement at Exeter Employment Tribunal. This came after UKIP failed to lodge a defence. Sinclaire alleged that UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom had called her a “queer”. We can only draw our own conclusions from all of this..

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New anti-EU political party launches

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/09/2012

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New anti-EU political party launches!

Nikki Sinclaire’s new group is not so much anti EU as pro democracy & believes a Royal Commission followed by a fully informed, free, balance and fair referendum is the ONLY way to ensure the voice of the people is heard and not just the self interest of corrupted politicians (bought & paid for from OUR taxes)!

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Nikki Sinclaire

New anti-EU political party launches in UK

by Nikki Sinclaire

18 September 2012 
 
Mainstream parties will be under threat at the ballot box in 2014 as the new movement attempts to tap into the strength of anti-EU feeling among British voters – claims MEP

The time has now come for the people of Britain to be given the chance to have a proper debate on one of the most important decisions the country must face – should we continue as an independent nation or be part of a single European state? Thousands upon thousands of people have signed our petition calling for an “in or out” referendum. Opinion poll after opinion poll continues to show that we – the ordinary people of the United Kingdom – want our say on the European Union.

Yet, for some reason, continuous governments have consistently and deliberately ignored our views on Europe with repeated excuses of why we should not have a referendum. Why are they so afraid of the people? Why won’t they let us decide? And why do they continue to patronise us with their ‘we know better’ attitude? We have thought long and hard about what our next step should be as a movement dedicated to making sure the people of Britain have a say in their future. So we have decided that to truly get the government to sit up and take notice, we must threaten them at the ballot box and show them the strength of public opinion on this issue.

After nearly two years of working as the Campaign for a Referendum, we now have more than 200,000 signatories and an army of constituency activists; the largest mobile network of supporters ever amassed for an EU referendum. Nothing this size has been seen since the Referendum Party and the late Sir Jimmy Goldsmith, whose pioneering baton was recklessly dropped after his death in 1997. So it is to this end that a new political entity has been established and registered with the Electoral Commission in Britain to represent the mainstream view that the UK should have the right to a referendum on its continued membership of the EU.

On September 13, we submitted the latest 100,000 signatures to 10 Downing Street. In doing so, we challenged British Prime Minister David Cameron and the government to enable an ‘in or out’ vote by 2014. The people must have the chance to vote for a referendum ahead of the next European elections in 2014. We are picking up this vitally important baton for the citizens of Britain and, this time, we will keep a firm grip on it until we have crossed the finishing line.

Candidates will stand under a united banner declaring: “We demand a referendum – let the people decide. They will share a single aim – to force a decisive referendum on the issue of Europe. We need to settle the debate once and for all. You might be asking why we are not simply endorsing an anti-Europe party in 2014. The answer is simple. It is because our campaign has, from the start, been completely politically neutral. In doing so, we have brought together people from across the political spectrum to achieve things that otherwise would not have been possible.

The importance of forcing a referendum is far bigger than any party. We strive to go beyond party politics, which is why it is important to let the people make decisions – not the politicians. It is up to us to honour our duty to do everything within our power to enable a referendum. We will have far greater success if we can first deliver the answer to the question that no other party is asking – do we want in, or out, of Europe? It is up to the citizens of the UK to decide.

Nikki Sinclaire is an independent MEP representing the West Midlands, in the United Kingdom, and spearheads the new political movement Let the People Decide

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Mick McGough of UKIP NEC’s Lies & Fantasies!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/08/2012

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Mick McGough of UKIP NEC’s Lies & Fantasies!


Sadly such dishonesty & corruption has repeatedly brought The EUroSceptic movement into disrepute and the self interest of those seeking preferment has been a betrayal of these United Kingdoms and greatly aided The EU in its efforts to destroy Brtitain and its values!

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Hi,
this post is copied from its original source on The Mick McGough blog at CLICK HERE
Hi,

I note with utter contempt the liar, cheat and proven low life scoundrel Mick McGough is yet again excercising his fantasies and obsessions in a desperate & obsessive effort to defame me!

Mick McGough seemingly seeking to ingratiate himself with
an apparently somewhat ‘tired & emotional’ Nigel Farage!

Rich when it comes from a proven liar who set out to cheat his colleagues for his own personal gain – an odious little man who criminally uses the internet and who has brought the EUroSceptic movement into such disrepute with his parasitic vain glory in befouling The Freedom Association with his presence and his involvement with the CIB.

Not to mention of course the extent to which he has befouled and debased UKIP by seeking to drag them into the gutter he so clearly feels so at home in – a gutter befouled with his constant self interested lies and speculative falsehoods.

Here is his comment of today, made on Anthony Butcher’s squalid little forum which is provably controlled by Mick McGough’s low life colleagues amongst UKIP’s leadership:

Steve GLW may well have had a knock at the door when he revealed info specifically banned by a court from publishing.You really give him too much respect given his whole aim is to undrmine the anti EU movement.He hates it when we suggest he’s paid ,which I am sure he is.Of course he must be worried that his benefits might be affected.

So let us consider what this vile little man is claiming:

Steve

This I gather is in response to detailed facts and opinions presented by Steve Morson, on that same Forum.

Let us not forget Steve Morson was legitimately and honestly elected to be chairman of UKIP’s regional committee – Mick McGough had to resort to dishonesty and corruption to seek preferment in UKIP as shown at CLICK HERE where you will note despite his dishonesty as shown in UKIP’s Returning Officer‘s Official Report he came a risible 6th. with only 137 votes amonst his so called friends, on his home territory and was beaten into that position by some notable liars and various dishonest individuals who have, like himself, brought UKIP into disrepute and undermined genuine EUroScepticism in their corrupt self interest!

GLW may well have had a knock at the door

Fortunately I have absolutely nothing to fear from ANY knock on my door – having NEVER wittingly or deliberately broken any law nor, unlike Mick McGough, have I ever deliberately lied to mislead or for personal gain.

when he revealed info specifically banned by a court from publishing.

I have never in my life wittingly published information which was a matter under any such legal notice. I do gather that Gerard Batten sought, in my opinion dishonestly and corruptly, to suppress the truth of his various Court appearances. Details which I quite legitimately published as there was no reason to believe he was so ashamed he sought to suppress the facts – though one might well understand why his efforts to seemingly incite racial hatred based on religious superstitions counter to his own may well be grounds for such dishonesty!

I am also aware that UKIP via individuals in their claque dishonestly obtained details of a technical offence, with relation to an automatic pistol, and legitimate corresponding ammunition, which was accidentally imported into Britain, with household effects by a then lady friend of mine.

An offence for which I chose, for personal reasons, to accept responsibility and which was about 30 years ago and thus ‘legally spent’ and despite only a fine levied at the time UKIP were only too happy to see it unlawfully publicised and distorted – a measure of the suitability of UKIP to hold office ANY office!We note that in his desperation to dishonestly defame Mick McGough frequently sites this spent issue!

Perhaps since Mick McGough, would seem to claim, I should have known of the dubiously obtained Court ban, with regard to Gerard Batten’s Court appearances, how come the matter was clearly in the public domain or I would not have been aware of it and nor would he!

You really give him too much respect

I believe the so called ‘respect’ attributed to me by Steve Morson and others, in as far as it may be is for my consistent efforts to be honest and accurate in exposing corruption in public office and my consistent efforts in opposing membership of The EU by these United Kingdoms with no attempt to personally profit from such efforts nor to seek preferment – funding every such action that I have taken with my own money.

given his whole aim is to undrmine the anti EU movement.

What a desperate and squalid lie – We note Mick McGough whop has so befouled the EUroSceptic movement in his personal interest, is unable to ever site facts, merely fanciful and defamatory lies, he and others have invented to justify their defamatory dishonesty and efforts to silence me for having exposed their corruption and self interest.

He hates it when we suggest he’s paid ,

Frankly considering the source of the lies it is a matter of indifference but as the defamatory lies are so often made by those who, like Mick McGouggh, seek personal gain by repeating these lies – Indeed I expose them for the self seeking liars they are.

You will note that never ONCE have any of these low lifes EVER been able to identify a single iota of evidence or substantiation of their dishonest and defamatory comments.

which I am sure he is.

Tjhis can only, it would seem, be a certainty based upon the apparent fact that Mick McGough himself is without ethics, patriotism or integrity and would himself act for money and is motivated to lie and cheat for personal gain and also to defame and mislead in his repetition of his lies without a shred of factual evidence to back his serial dishonesty.

Of course he must be worried that his benefits might be affected.

Indeed I do have the benefit of drawing a somewhat nominal old age pension, being eligible by contribution and age, and did for a short period, during treatment with Chemo Therapy and Radiation treatment, for what was a prognosis of terminal cancer, receive a sum which – since I was unable to work – covered PART of the cost of my petrol for visits to Velindre for that treatment.

I do not and nor have I ever received any other legitimate State benefits beyond those of the society I seek to defend from liars like McGough and the low lifes with whom they associate.

Yet again Mick McGough, were he an honest man of any integrity, would publish a full retraction and public apology for his utterly dishonest attempts to defame me – However I believe we can be, as ever, certain he will not be man enough nor honourable enough to do so.

Anyone wishing to check or verify ANY claimed fact about me is welcome to seek that clarification and provenance from me and do note that I strive to ensure the facts and the veracity of every posting I have ever made and details backing their accuracy can be found at CLICK HERE

I trust this exposure of the corruption and self serving lies of Mick McGough will be of help – It would be nice to think he might cease and disist in his serial dishonesty and criminal behaviour as a ‘Cyber Stalker’ but such a personality change on his part would seem unlikely – once a grubby little liar always a grubby klittle liar I have tended to find of the likes of such scum of our society!

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Cornwall Shown The terrible Truth About UKIP!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/08/2012

Cornwall Shown The terrible Truth About UKIP!

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Cornwall Shown The terrible Truth About UKIP!
A party befouled by the low caliber of its leadership, officers and the claque of ner do wells who lie, abuse and defame in their name!

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here is a rather embarrassing exposure of UKIP and the vile low lifes who flock in to defame and dishonestly present their false support for UKIP leadership, presumably in the hope of preferment, as with:
the cowardly and dishonest Stuart Parr
the cowardly and dishonest Stuart Parr a UKIP parish councillor from Shropshire, too ashamed of his behaviour to use his own name as he lies and distorts, defames and thus befouls the reputation of UKIP so clearly aiding The EU who use such behaviour of the low lifes of UKIP to sabotage the British EUroSceptic movement.
That such behaviour is an all too common occurance in British regional press – as with this exchange that so harms UKIP & EUroScepticism in ‘This is Cornwall’ a part of The Northcliffe Group I believe!
That the original correspondent would seem to be a political opponent with his own nest to feather may well be true – but let us face it UKIP leadership and its clique have handed him victory on a plate with their scuzzy behaviour and overt extremist associates and self serving corruption.
That Stuart Parr makes it 10 times worse for EUroScepticism in seeking to perpetuate the corruption and dishonesty speaks volumes of just how unfit for purpose UKIP actually is in its present form where clearly it is a part of the problem for EUroRealists and no part of the solution for those seeking to Leave-The-EU.

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    by wonkotsane

    Friday, July 20 2012, 7:53AM

    “Tom Wise was thrown out of the party for fiddling expenses. Ashley Mote was thrown out of the party for committing benefits fraud – something he was being investigated for before he was selected as a UKIP MEP candidate but didn’t disclose. What more can the party do without a crystal ball?

    The BNP gets most of its votes from disaffected Labour voters and most former BNP members are going to the English Democrats. UKIP banned past and present BNP members from joining the party years ago – a ban no other mainstream party has.

    Finally, anyone who links to the anti-UKIP “Junius” blog, the unhinged libel factory of anti-UKIP campaigner Greg Lance-Watkins or the far left militant Searchlight (whose criticism of UKIP doesn’t extend to refusing to vet UKIP’s suspect membership applications) as “evidence” of UKIP’s unsuitability is seriously scraping the bottom of the barrel – it’s like asking Mohammed Al Fayed for an objective opinion on the merits of the royal family.

    UKIP is not racist, UKIP is not corrupt, UKIP is not dishonest. UKIP is the only party that does what it says on the tin, that doesn’t break promises and that has the interests of the country first and foremost. Unlike Cornish regionalists like Chy Howlek whose obsession with breaking up England does nothing to improve anyone’s lot in life other than their own.”

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    by EndUKRule

    Friday, July 20 2012, 11:09AM

    “UKIP also mixes with the most right wing, fascist political parties in Europe. Parties which advocate ethnic cleansing, homophobic persecution etc. UKIP is truly a party of Tory rejects mingled with BNP/EDL nutcases.”

I felt it apposite to respond:

Setting the facts out rather than the pack of self serving lies of Stuart Parr aka wonkotsane!

Hi,

as I have been overtly and dishonestly lied about in your columns by the cowardly & dishonourable Stuart Parr, clearly too ashamed to use his own name he shelters behind his silly chosen name.

I speak for no one but myself when I state Stuart Parr is both a liar and without morality that he so glibly and falsely defames others, without a shred of supporting evidence.

I have been a long term supporter of the principles and values of UKIP long before he had heard of the party I would guess.

Let us look at what this grubby little man has actually stated:

“Tom Wise was thrown out of the party for fiddling expenses”
A lie – he was NEVER thrown out of the party, though Nigel Farage frequently lied to cover-up his dishonesty! Tom Wise declined to renew his membership at the tail end of his term as an MEP.

“Ashley Mote was thrown out of the party for committing benefits fraud”
Another Stuart Parr lie – he was thrown out of the party for failing to comply with party rules.

“”something he was being investigated for before he was selected as a UKIP MEP candidate but didn’t disclose”.
Correct – the alleged offences were long before he stood as an MEP candidate & his legal advisers advised him NOT to comply with the party rule of disclosure as it would imply guilt which he vehemently denied

“What more can the party do without a crystal ball?”
Professionalise! Demand a full CRB for candidates and also a signed undertaking that if they are elected & found to have failed compliance or as with Mick McGough, Marta Andreasen & David Bannerman etc. lied to try to gain office they resign their seat surrendering it to the next in line.
Or as with Derek Clark & other UKIP MEPs when found guilty of fraudulent use of public money they should have signed an undertaking to face a disciplinary hearing and face automatic resignation and replacement.

“The BNP gets most of its votes from disaffected Labour voters and most former BNP members are going to the English Democrats”
A party in which UKIP has had a great deal of input in creation & is closely associated with – Particularly Gerard Batten UKIP/EFD MEP, Gawain Towler, Mick McGough and others!

“UKIP banned past and present BNP members from joining the party years ago – a ban no other mainstream party has”.
True but the main stream parties do not hold the same level of back stabbing ceremonies & one notes that when it suits UKIP leadership it waives the rules as with Nigel Farage’s ex BNP electoral agent! Also it has been used by UKIP dishonestly & corruptly to remove those who seek probity in UKIP!

“Finally, anyone who links to the anti-UKIP “Junius” blog, the unhinged libel factory of anti-UKIP campaigner Greg Lance-Watkins”
A wild, childish and irresponsible lie that Stuart Parr can not substantiate on a single count.

“or the far left militant Searchlight (whose criticism of UKIP doesn’t extend to refusing to vet UKIP’s suspect membership applications) as “evidence” of UKIP’s unsuitability is seriously scraping the bottom of the barrel – it’s like asking Mohammed Al Fayed for an objective opinion on the merits of the royal family”
An inaccurate & ill informed comment!

“UKIP is not racist”
A lie as facts prove.

“UKIP is not corrupt”
Despite its many lost court cases? UKIP is unarguably corrupt as proven by facts.

“UKIP is not dishonest”
Sadly not true as the evidence shows.

“UKIP is the only party that does what it says on the tin”
A lie as shown by the facts – viz Leave-The-EU yet joins the pro EU membership EFD Group!

“that doesn’t break promises”
Sadly untrue as facts prove.

“& that has the interests of the country first and foremost”
Well after its leadership clique and its claque!

It is hard to tell if Stuart Parr is delusional or naturally dishonest but there is no doubt his letter is shamefully dishonest and seemingly intent on misleading YOUR readers.

He is a liar & I challenge him to visit

my web site http://UKIP-EUkip.com

& identify a single material error of fact!

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Regards,

Greg_L-W.

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PLEASE NOTE UPDATE 15-Aug-2012 12:00hrs.:

Nothcliff Group have removed Stuart Parr’s irresponsible and libellous comment made on behalf of UKIP as it was dishonest, offensive and inaccurate.

 

Please be assured that it was NOT removed at my request as I am indifferent to the comments of liars and fools and in this instance as in many others it granted me the opportunity to expose the corruption and dishonesty both in the leadership clique and amongst its odious claque of UKIP’s dishonest and cowardly parasites.

 

The desperate efforts, to try to defame this blog, of the liars, fools and cowards hanging onto UKIP’s route to the gravy train are of no consequence as it tells the public so much more about the corruption of UKIP, when clearly the defamatory comments of liars are of no consequence to me.

 

Defamatory comments are only of consequence when of some substance, backed by accurate sourced and checkable consequence and made by individuals of some probity who have proved trustworthy and are sufficiently convinced of their claims to provide clear links to proof and place the claims in their own verifiable name.

 

Any coward sheltering in anonymity to dishonestly defame is beneath contempt.

 

It is unfortunate that The Northcliff Group chose to remove Stuart Parr’s lies as it slightly limited my ability to respond and show Stuart Parr for the coward, liar and low life he clearly is.

 

Regards,

G.L-W.

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What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that goal of unanimity in aim!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

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Thoughts on a way forward to Leave-The-EU

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/07/2012

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Thoughts on a way forward to Leave-The-EU!

In the form of an open letter related to Leave-The-EU & debate of A Harrogate Agenda!

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as Dr. Richard North knows better than most: UKIP have absolutely no intellectual bottom!

UKIP in 20 years has NEVER had any kind of training program and is endlessly reactive with clearly no vision, no sign of Strategy EVER and notably no tactics.

One only needs to note the racist, xenophobic, criminal, anti Jewish, anti Islamic, anti homosexual links and track record of UKIP to realise they currently offer no part of the solution and have largely befouled and discreditted the EUroSceptic movement – is it any wonder that in terms of British politics UKIP have been a spectacular failure with under 30 people elected to any office of note out of some 19,500 available seats!

It really doesn’t matter what the polls say when very clearly the Ballot Boxes in real elections averages out between 3 > 6% – This places UKIP no closer to a say of ANY consequence at Westminster tyhan in 1993 when alan Sked founded the party.

Subsequent to getting 12 people on the gravy train in 2004 it is hard to identify a single solitary example of an achievement of any note towards the aim of Leave-The-EU – Just what is UKIP for? Beyond of course a small clique’s enrichment and a route to the gravy train for a small claque!

It is all very well for a few elderly men to hang onto their ill informed beliefs and the concept that EUroScepticism is some sort of hobby for their dotage!

The attacks and abuse from UKIP that is poured on the heads of anyone who dares to rattle their grubby little scams is legendary.

Yet again Richard and others have fallen foul of the thought police in UKIP who in their blinkered ignorance listen in adulation to their leader’s 3 cheeky chappie speaches and glib invention of policy on the hoof now that he has engineered a position of dictatorship in his personalised party, for lack of anyone of any consequence, competence or gravitas ever challenging him.

We who truly seek better governanance and an end to Britain’s membership of The EU must move on leaving UKIP behind in its sordid group of extremists, racists and pro EU reform rather than withdrawal of The EFD Group Farage has gathered to make more money!

The Harrogate Agenda is at least thinking about the problems and debating with a view to a way forward – on UKIP’s growth pattern over 20 years it will be at least 100 years before they could ever clearly be in a position of relevance towards the aim of Leave-The-EU or even seriously influence it!

There is a desperate need for a Harrogate Agenda or similar, a need for political thinking, a need for a very clear exiit and survival strategy relative to The EU. Britain has between 7 & 9 days of food supply and after that all food imports are a matter of EU contracts, it would not be possible to make a single international phone call after leaving The EU and France owns 80% of our power supply – It is not some childish concept of pass a paving bill to revoke The ECA and revoke our signature to The Treaty of Rome and its subsequent amendments.

Exit from The EU is only possible through implementation of the terms in the treaties our political elite have stitched us into. Simplistic revocation of our undertakings are bound under The Treaty of Vienna and international laws of consequence rather than the dictum of The EU – Just as The WTO’s consequential relevance is the style of implement we shall have to invoke to set aside any efforts of The EU to restrict Britain’s trade when we Leave-The-EU.

So may I suggest, since UKIP has no vision, plan, strategy or gravitas Press on with The Harrogate Agenda & ANY oportunity for serious debate – perhaps heaven forefend UKIP just might make some efforts to act with some integrity and intelligent debate rather than ‘defending their seats on the gravy train’ with any form of defamatory attack they can make on any true EUroRealist who dares to seek to point out that UKIP has proved it is unfit for purpose in its present state of amateurism and sham clearly aiding The EU in maintaining control of these United Kingdoms against the will of a clear majority of British peoples.

Good luck to Richard and those like him who seek to work towards a solution through debate and rigorous appraisal perhaps The Harrogate Agenda will be the vehicle for progress to change our governance – perhaps just one of the wheels on which that vehicle advances.

IF we fail to change our method of governance then even when we Leave-the-EU we will merely slide into the next political scam that rewards politicians with massive bribes from the public purse made up from the disproportionate taxes levied on their victims.

This is not about You or I nor about enrichment and jobs – this is about us and the future of our peoples, our values and our principles the future of our children and grandchildren in freedom and dignity, stability and self respect.

Thank you to all who have set their egos and agendas aside to debate what will hopefully deliver what we had all hoped UKIP would but which they clearly failed to.

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Perhaps as a starting point some may wish to consider:
1. Surely the 6 Point (Harrogate Agenda) should be THE 6 rights of ‘We the people: one people Under Law…’

2. The 6 rights should be headings for 6 or maybe more detailed rights within each sub section can be a method of enhancing, repealing or improving by referendum on a clearly defined & structured basis with defined required majorities for change.

2. The 6 rights should thus be the foundation of OUR ‘Declaration of Rights’ once adopted it can become ‘The Citizen’s Rights’. Note the apostrophe they become the inalienable rights of any one citizen of these United Kingdoms.

3. The Citizens’ Rights must include the expectation of the rights of those that serve them.

THEN:

We move on to how The Citizen’s Rights are incorporated into law under a Constitution of and for these United Kingdoms and its peoples.

I would contend that though, as has been stated, our system is indubitably, if we consider such Constitution and rights as they now stand, FUBAR but worse than that due to abuse – be that the idiotic stance of those seeking what they claim to be doubly entrenched law under such constitution as with Act of Settlement or Magna Carta we now find they have been so abused over the years by a devious ‘political class’ seeing itself as an elite as to be considerably more a case of being FUBAR BUNDY!

I contend we must not presume to plant a fully grown oak tree but rather an acorn.

The progress of that acorn and the degree of care in its nurture will determine the health, strength and durability of the eventual oak but we must not too greatly define it or we become in danger of having a stylised bonsai of little use to ‘We the peeople etc. …’

In brief first we must define the 6 core headings.

In my humble opinion – then the rest will fall into place.

6 core headings which will form our acorn and as I have just proved brevity is harder to achieve than precis ;-(

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For those who are genuinely interested in a way forward may I suggest see CLICK HERE and read as much as you can find time to and follow the many links – you may even have sufficient interest in the future to join the debate on the Forum linked to the postings.
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That UKIP has a liar and low life like McGough on its NEC as a spokesman & The CIB & The Freedom Association associate with such an odious fantasist speaks volumes of their current ability to represent EUroScepticism!

Obviously IF there is EVER an In/Out Referendum the likes of McGough will preclude any possibility such organisations will have of being taken seriously – Sadly he is not the only fool in UKIP leadership clique and its claque in fact they seem without one iota of gravitas or credibility!

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Nigel Farage MEP and Michael McGough

Nigel Farage MEP and Michael McGough (Photo credit: The Freedom Association)

Mick McGough is a proven liar and a cheat who was exposed as a liar and cheat by the report of UKIP’s returning officer having lied to deceive the electorate in selection as an MEP to fulfil his personal ambitions & no doubt for personal gain!

His desperate distortions and utterly irresponsible and repetitive misrepresentations are, one is forced to assume, deliberately damaging to the EUroSceptic movement  – for it is hard to conjecture any other reason he makes such a fool of himself with his lies and criminally obsessive behaviour under law.

You will note this odious excrecence’s foolish fantasies and dishonesties below in starting a thread on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled public forum when he is, rather embarrassingly, on UKIP’s NEC!!
Here is his foolish thread and the responses so far – I have commented clearly prefixed G.L-W>> & ended <<
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    G.L-W>> An interesting speculation which he makes time and again without a shred of evidence in an attempt to dishonestly defame despite clear statements from myself and others as to EXACTLY why as a dedicated EUroRealist I have supported UKIP as founded, for many years and seek to expose the corruption and lies of the likes of Mick McGough and those like him who use it as a vehicle for their own dishonesties and those using it to fulfil personal ambitions and self enrichment!

     

    Please be assured that I have not, am not and never have been paid in any shape manner or form for my totslly consistent track record of opposition to Britain’s membership of The EU.<<

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    It amazes me that no one seems to know who ‘Junius’ is (?).
    I can’t think anyone pays GLW, as his writing style is so off-putting.

    G.L-W>> It is hardly surprising that those who post under the name of Junius retain their anonimity, as if their identities were known it is unlikely that they would be able to obtain much of the information of corruption, dishonesty, racism, bullying and abuse that are prevalent in UKIP’s heirarchy – not to mention the utter incompetence that makes them unfit for purpose as any kind of standard bearer for EUroScepticism.

    As to my writing style I can respect the opinion given and just as some may find the style ‘off putting’ the reade4rship figures of the material I have written over the years would indicate others may find it of interest – Each to his own!

    Just rather a pity this individual lacks the conviction of his comments to put his name to them – a cowards option which demeans the value of tyhe comments!<<

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    Splendid question Mr McGough.

    G.L-W>> some indication of the motivation and stupidity of this cowardly poster! <<

    If only we had an idea because I personally do not believe that they want to ‘clean up UKIP’ as they claim, rather they wish to destroy it.

    G.L-W>> Further proof that this poster is without doubt wrong with regard to myself and also I believe with regard to those who post at Junius – there is clear proof that I have consistently worked to try to ‘Clean-up’ UKIP from exposing the frauds of Tom Wise aided by Lindsay Jenkins and the attempts of Nigel Farage, Mike Nattrass, Roger Helmer, Bob Feel Martinis, Mick McGough, Anthony Butcher and others to protect this criminal who was eventually sentenced to 2 years in prison for his false accounting, fraud, embezelling and theft from the public purse in abuse of his elected office of trust!

     

    Perhaps this idiot presenting with the fake name would have the integrity to be identified or as I suspect are they merely protecting their position and that of others exploiting UKIP & EUroScepticism for personal gain.

     

    His comments are clearly fantasies without a shred of substantive provenance – no wonder they are too ashamed to put their name to their dishonesty.<<

    The latest claims against Mr Batten should indeed prove to be their undoing and I dearly hope Mr Batten will be consulting his lawyers in due course.

    G.L-W>> Gerard Batten has a track record proven and in the public domain of association with those reasonable individuals would consider to be racist, extremist and criminal. Further Gerard Batten has provably acted in a manner that is indubitably dishonest, corrupt and holding Justice in contempt.

    Gerard Batten has beyond any doubt acted in a manner likely to be considered an incitement to racial hatred based on his personal superstitions, fears and beliefs.

     

    That known about Gerard Batten and the duplicitous exploitation of his position to seek to suppress the truth and waste Police time by bearing false witness is beyond doubt – Thus the publication of Jasna Badzak was I believe made in good faith by those at Junius – in an effort to expose corruption within UKIP leadership as Junius have so many times before.

     

    To date I am not aware of a single solitary item posted of any material fact that is consequentially wrong or in any way untrue on their blog.

     

    Just as to date NEVER has it been shown that a single fact of any consequence published on my blog was untrue, false or dishonest, or even designed to mislead.<<

    It is very interesting to see the lack of honour among the chief protagonists with Mr Edwards now claiming that Junius may have been set up into publishing false information, a charge that is rejected by both Mr Lance-Watkins and (given their links to Mr Lance-Watkins’ rebuttal) the Junius team.

    G.L-W>> Perhaps the dishonourable coward making these allegations could identify with evidence how Junius or myself have in any way acted dishonourably – unlike himself! <<

    It would appear that the net is closing on the Junius team and this may have been one lie too many

    G.L-W>> Perhaps rather than fantasise the cowardly and dishonouarble poster could identify a single solitary ‘lie’ that Junius has written in many 100s of postings.

    Rather than dishonestly imply that somewhere Junius has ‘lied’ an example would add credibility to this cowardly low life’s anonimous postings and inuendo.<<

    – my personal belief is tht the Junius team have shown an almost Mr Warry like speed to publish the claims without seeking to verify them

    G.L-W>> I note this cowardly excrecence is seeking to defame with a broad brush demeaning themselves by so doing as clearly Mr. Warry has like Junius and I merely acted in good faith as a EUroRealist of long standing, in efforts to ‘clean-up’ UKIP seeking an organisation fit for purpose to represent or lead the EUroSceptic movement. <<

    – the headline is, for them on this occasion, to good to resist. Big mistake

    G.L-W>> So even underhand cowards have opinions though clearly he is not adequately convinced to put his name to his malicious self serving fantasies.<<

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    Its a falling out among thieves.

    G.L-W>> I resent and reject the implication in the attempt to smear and defame that I am or have ever been a thief or have ever acted dishonestly or dishonourably.

    I note even the poster is insufficiently convinced of his fantasy to put his name to his dishonesty.<<

    GLW used to get party inside information from Nigel Farage

    G.L-W>> May I ask what evidence the cowardly poster can present to support his claim and as there is none perhaps they will have the integrity to withdraw the allegation and apologise having the integrity to put his or her name to the correction. <<

    and used it to denigrate persons such as Mike Nattrass, Damian Hockney,etc.

    G.L-W>> Another dishonest and duplicitous effort to defame without a shred of evidence. <<

    Farage and he then fell out.

    G.L-W>> An outright lie – my opinion of Farage has not changed since I first became aware of him and I have NEVER fallen out with Farage – his insecurities are for him to deal with! <<

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    Trying to make mischief again I see mick!

    Let’s just assume for a second that this was a ‘set up’ then they have published a ‘set up lie’ not a direct lie.

    Also in years of publishing ‘stuff’ on the true nature of EUKIP I’d say Junius and GLW have been very accurate.

    And despite I’m sure Nigel and Co wishing to silence them only one court case over the copyright of a photograph which they LOST and have still to settle the costs.

    So they obviously are prepared to go to court so why not endless court cases against Junius and GLW?

    I’ll tell you why because Junius and GLW tell you how it is in EUKIP and don’t lie in what they report.

    Oh and BTW thanks mick for giving me the opportunity to explain the above to the viewing public to this forum.

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    G.L-W>> My thanks to Niall warry for his honourable effort to present the truth which is in virtually every aspect correct. <<
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    As you probably know Niall the coward GLW has in the past stopped posting about individuals because of threats of violence.

    G.L-W>> Yet another outright lie from Mick McGough in a desperate effort to defame and to save face for his consistent dishonesty.

    I have NEVER ceased to openly state the truth on any subject by threat of any kind from any source.

    Michael McGough your consistent dishonesty and outright misrepresentations and lies consistently bring EUroScepticism into disrepute and greatly aids the EU in discreditting the movement – Your actions are cowardly, contemptible and at times criminal.<<

    Trouble is most of those he attacks are too civilised and resorting to law is costly .

    G.L-W>> I have ALWAYS offered a right of reply, ALWAYS offered the right of correction of any point I have accidentally got wrong CLICK HERE and have consistently been willing to be cross examined in any public meeting on my statements and the exposure of corruption of those seeking to lead for gain at the expense of the public purse.

    Those who I have exposed are NOT gentlemen they are duplicitous low lifes and have clearly not resorted to law as a defence of ‘Veritas’ suffices in civilisation, despite the contemptible efforts to mislead by the likes of Mick mcGough and those in the UKIP claque.<<

    As a failed grubby second hand bookseller whose assets if any will be in his partner’s name is just not worth sueing.

    G.L-W>> Mick McGough demeans himself with this standard of childish and offensive comment which is so provably wrong, having founded the business and built it over the years never once seeking the assistance of any other party or any kind of public subsidies – Mick McGough was of corse an employed bean counter just another occupation as was mine.

    Rather satisfyingly, for me, was that from 1981 I was able to be self employed, with no boss, employing others and doing something I thoroughly enjoyed and despite health challenges was able to close our business with no debts as owner of the entire stock  which was extensive and support myself and my partner for some 7 years without recourse to benefits or the help of others.

    As for ‘grubby books’ one wonder what Mick McGough knows of books, clearly little if anything. Our most valuable stock item was some £20,000 and never once did we buy or sell any item of pornography as ALL our stock was on public display in 8 rooms and we were dependent on both families and parents for our livelihood.

     

    Mick McGough makes a fool of himself with his ill informed efforts to defame akin to his childish comments about pony tails and his efforts to defame based upon CLICK HERE & HERE<<

    But now he has gone too far by repeating the fantasies of an alien.

    Make sure you have clean nightwear Greg as the knock could come early one morning

    Where else will the knock come?

    Brussels,Bermondsey,Birmingham ? We must wait and see

    G.L-W>> Sadly UKIP leadership clique and its claque can hang their heads in shame as Mick McGough is by no means the only liar, criminal bully and fantasist in their ranks, which probably explains why UKIP in 20 years has been found guilty of fraud on so many occasions, has been proven to be liars, racists and damaging to the cause of Leave-The-EU with their contemptible behaviour.

    Not only was Tom Wise their MEP sent to prison for his theft but Mike Nattrass is well documented as having sought to protect him on the grounds that ALL UKIP MEPs were on the fiddle – as we have subsequently had proved to us with Derek Clark, despite his lies and dishonesty and contemptible efforts to dishonestly defame, had to repay a sizeable amount of money he had obtained fraudulently.

    Other UKIP MEPs who have been proven to fraudulently obtain money and have been forced to repay the money include, Graham Booth, Jeffrey Titford, Nigel Farage meanwhile I understand allegations have been made that are being investigated regarding Gerard Batten as with the investigation of David Bannerman and Stuart Agnew by OLAF which is ongoing.

    UKIP a party of increasingly little relevance, largely due to the incompetence of its leadership, the incredibly low calliber of its MEPs, the staggering ineptitude of its officers and staff and its fractured squabbling nature as they all seem all too willing to parade their differences and stab eachother in the back to jockey for position.

    It would seem that so much money has been stolen and misappropriated by those in positions of supposed trust in UKIP they are clearly not to be trusted, and clearly aren’t trusted by the public, with less than 30 elected seats in British politics out of some 19,500 available, after 20 years!<<

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GERARD BATTEN UKIP & EFD mep- Further Clarification

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with regard to the comments published by Jasna Badzak regarding Gerard Batten as posted by those at Junius CLICK HERE and also, now that they are in the public domain, posted at CLICK HERE & HERE there is a great deal more material and as I have commented I await confirmation and a copy of the Court Judgement which I will be only too happy to publish with such ‘bundles’ as come to hand to clarify the issue as the aim is to seek to ensure we publish the truth in support of UKIP and EUroScepticism rather than protect given corrupt individuals in the UKIP structure who have so damaged the cause of UKIP members and EUroScepticism in general.
You may note that I have made the following ‘Comment’ on The Junius blog:

Hi,

the facts supplied in the blog published were provided by Jasna Badzak an employee of Gerard Batten, who was originally from The Balkans.

I incline to believe the genertal accuracy of the comments though various comments may suffer from her use and understanding of the English language.

It is an established fact that Gerard Batten is racist not withstanding the fact that his wife is Phillipino by origin.

There is no doubt that Gerard Batten is willing to abuse his elected office for personal gain and willing to lie or at very least misrepresent the truth to abuse the law to seek to suppress the truth.

Gerard Batten has a track record of abuse of his position to deny basic justice and collude in persecution of individuals to suit himself.

Clearly Gerard Batten lacks the morality, ethics or intyegrity to hold the position of representing anyone or anything of consequence and is associated with various criminals such as Gregory Lauder Frost in what is considered to be xenophobic and extremist right wing activities by many.

It is based on my direct knowledge and the comments of various others and also the speeches and writings, publications and behaviour of Gerard Batten t5hat are a matter of record in the public domain that I incline to believe the allegations of Jasna Badzak as published and the large body of additional material and cross references that I have seen.

Let us notr forget that it is a matter of public record that Gerard Batten is a member of a largely pro EU membership group which seeks to renegotiate EU membership. A group which is overtly anti Muslim, anti Jewish, anti imigrant and has failed to censure Holocaust Denial and the advocacy of bombing African imigrants in their boats to prevent them landing in EUrope.

It is the failure of Gerard Batten to speak out against the corruption amongst his colleagues that shows his lack of principles that inclin to endorse the allegations of Jasna Badzak.

Obviously I can not personally vouch for the veracity of every detail as claimed and published by Jasna Badzak but it would seem the outline and substance of the claims are correct as published by her.

I believe that it is the duty of any citizen to expose corruption and criminality when they are aware of it, particularly those who bring politics, public service and elected office into disrepute as I believe Gerard Batten and others would seem clearly to have done.

Should ANYONE have additional factual information and provenance of the behaviour of Gerard Batten or others in UKIP no doubt Junius would be only too happy to publish it, together with the documentary proof of the claims in this article above.

I have never noted a single error of fact of a material and deliberate nature in ANY of the postings of those on the Junius blog.

Further, despite many lies and false claims by the low lifes and nere do wells seeking to suppress the truth and gain in self interest in UKIP leadership structure at the expense of Junius and the many allegations made regarding Junius they have beyond reasonable doubt failed totally to show a single error of fact of consequence in any of the Junius postings.

I also know of not a single ‘Comment’ posted to Junius that has been posted legitimately and by an identified individual that has ever been suppressed by the blog owners and editors.

IF you believe I am in error on any of the detail herein please do not hesitate to contact me and I am all too willing to make such correction as is shown and any apology that is apposite – to date in all my 1,000s of postings I am pleased to say no such apology or correction has ever been needed on any material otem – The aim is to try to be as honest and accurate as possible both on my blogs and postings and I believe on those of the postings of Junius blog and its contributors.

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I also gather that Andrew Edwards having circulated his recent mischievous eMail, on which I commented at CLICK HERE is now bleating because one of the recipients of the eMail forwarded it, as requested by Andrew Edwards, to Junius bloggers and also someone sent a copy to me.
Please note that contrary to the claim of Andrew Edwards I did NOT claim to have received his circular from him – I stated I had received an eMail which had come from him.
I receive many eMails that emanate from Andrew Edwards but rarely publish them and in fact frequently do not read them as they rarely contain new material or views I find reliable.
It would seem he takes objection to those who comment on his circulars and is offended that having asked that his mailing be passed to Junius then complains when Junius use one of his cartoons in their blog.
May I remind Edwards that in putting out circulars one is participating in a conversation and it is then rather silly to complain that others then comment on ones views, clearly stating their opinion over a verifiable, contactable name and address though I would concede there are all too many people too cowardly to put their name to squalid and dishonest ad hominem attacks, as with the various corrupt sock puppets of UKIP’s leadership!
Anonimity when publishing facts or commenting on public servants, those who draw their income by virtue of the state (Including the odious EU supra National State) ie dependent on the public purse for their income, is I believe acceptable but to publish dishonest distortions and lies about individuals whilst sheltering behind anonimity or false identity is beneath contempt.
Obviously clearly stated OPINION sheltered behind such anonimity is of little weight or consequence. IF one is not prepared to put ones name to material abusing anonimity it is no more than a cowardly form of playground bullying by the unethical.
With blogs such as Junius, which are a collective of UKIP supporters and EUroSceptics unhappy with the direction and corruption of UKIP under its present leadership team and in that they confine their comments to those in public office and their goffers anonimity is understandable for as long as they continue to deal in fact – unlike the behaviour of UKIP’s claque.
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