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UKIP NEC attack Farage & Bannerman re: Patrick Moore

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/12/2012

UKIP NEC attack Farage & Bannerman re: Patrick Moore

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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A UKIP NEC member attacks Nigel Farage & David Bannerman re: Their exploitation of Sir Patrick Moore!

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Hi,
the better informed members of UKIP with some knowledge of the party will well remember when Douglas Denny was fired for dishonesty and corrupting a party election.
You will remember Douglas Denny in flagrant abuse of his position of trust as returning officer betrayed the UKIP electorate and was fired by his colleagues on the NEC for having actively campaigned for one of the candidates, amongst other things he had obtained Sir Patrick Moore‘s signature as assentor for a candidate in the election!Douglas Denny has a long history of dishonesty, corruption and fantasies whilst in UKIP and I am inclined to believe that the letter below is not only genuine but despite the signature being redacted it does look all too like an attempt at petty revenge on the part of Douglas Denny!
With that consideration in mind and aware that there is absolutely no one of integrity, probity or noticeable intellect on UKIP’s NEC and they do incline to temper tantrums and squabble like ferrets in a sack as they stab each other in the back to gain positions for themselves you may find this letter that was forwarded to both Junius and I of interest:
Sir Patrick Moore was a navigator in the RAF
& strenuously opposed to EU membership all his adult life
In his latter years Sir Patrick became evr more of a charming excentric
best known as the driving force of
It rells us a lot about Farage, The NEC and the dynamics behind the scenes in his shoddy little party:

Please let us get this right. I am still disgusted with this business even now.

So here it is in detail.

What happened was DCB asked to meet Patrick because, he said, he had met him at his school when he came to give a talk, years previously. I said I would arrange it sometime, and consequently DCB came and stayed here at my house for a couple of days. I took him to visit Patrick and it was whilst we were there talking about this and that, when effectively out of the blue DCB asked Patrick if he would support him in the leadership contest. When Patrick said he would, he then asked if he would sign his nomination papers. Patrick again agreed. I should point out Patrick was (I put is and had to change it) so generous he agreed straight away without even thinking about it. I had nothing to do with this, which little scenario, unfolded before my eyes.

When the nomination papers were published, Nigel Farage went ape-s ** – claiming Patrick had already agreed to support him with his signing of nominations for leadership (he hadn’t actually to my knowledge anyway, and only based this assertion on Patrick supporting previously when it was he who asked Patrick first) and demanding to know from all and sundry including me, firstly via his acolyte Ray Finch (in a quite bizarre conversation something like the Spanish Inquisition) then later himself how dare I go and get Patrick to sign DCBs papers. In point of fact as I relate above I had nothing to do with it. He was hopping mad at DCB getting in first and asking and his not doing it.

The only ‘help’ DCB had from me was arranging for him to visit Patrick – which I have done for dozens of people who asked.

I now suspect strongly that businesss of getting signatures for leadership election nomination was the main reason DCB wanted to meet Patrick with a view to asking him for that support – not as he said, to just visit him because he admired him and wanted to meet him again after the school visit all those years ago.
That, I assure you, had never occurred to me.

Farage got Ray Finch who I believe works for him to go around to Patricks straight away when he found out, and more or less demanded Patrick support him too. Patrick could not go back on his word having already signed papers for DCB, so Finch got Patrick to agree to making a statement of how wonderful he thought Nigel Farage was, and how he was an excellent leader before would make a good leader again .. or words to that effect. That was subsequently published as part of the statements of the candidates for Nigel Farage.

Patrick was so disgusted with the whole business of being manipulated in such a cavalier way he very nearly resigned from UKIP there and then. I begged him not to and am glad he did not.

That is the truth of it for everyone to know.
(signature redacted)
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Though I concur the behaviour was squalid I do note just how many seniour members of UKIP’s leadership are of moral turpitude, liars, drunks cheats and low lifes – Is it any wonder they have been such a spectacular failure in British domestic elections over the last 20 years.
Consider the shameful calliber of UKIP’s NEC over the years, the cowardice, corruption and dishonesty – an NEC that would accomodate such liars and cheats as the odious and incompetent Mick McGough caught cheating even his own colleagues in his efforts to agrandise his personal ambitions! He is clearly not alone in his vile behaviour and  corrupt befouling of UKIP, nor in his childish efforts to belittle others!Clearly the informed public have seen through UKIP and hence their catastrophic results in General Elections, by-elections and the recent PCC elections where they did so risibly!
I note even the Tories have little but contempt for them and despite David Bannerman’s contemptible behaviour, first selling out on the Tories who had seen through him and had chosen not to promote his personal ambitions further and then having exploited the gullible and politically inept UKIP for his personal gain, realising he was going nowhere firtjher with UKIP he betrayed them also!
It would seem David Bannerman is to be cast back on the dross heap by the Tories at the next EU election where he is scheduled to be listed as a candidate at a position on the list unlikely to find a job!Following David Bannerman’s example of betrayal I gather Nigel Farage has also failed to ingratiate himself with the Tories in his efforts to sell out on UKIP in return for either a Cabinet Post or a Peerage in return for the surrender of the rump he perports to lead having, more by luck than any signs of ability as a leader taken UKIP as far as it was likely they would ever get.The deal, despite lengthy negotiations and foolish comments from idiots in UKIP and the likes of Michael Fabricant is now clearly off. The Tory leadership, being considerably brighter than their back benchers, would seem increasingly to have become aware that UKIP posed only a small threat to them, if any as their main increase in support was seemingly from the failed BNP and LibDims and very little from dissafected Tories save those they were pleased to see leave.

That so charming an excentric as Sir Patrick Moore with his patriotic war service as an RAF navigator was so exploited in his latter years by UKIP leadership is sad. I was so very pleased to have had the opportunity of a lengthy dinner with Sir Patrick just a few years ago after first becoming aware of him as I lay on the lawn under the 100foot+ palm trees of Singapore alongside the old Kempitei headquarters, looking out over the wrecks of WWII in Singapore harbour to the lightning rippling along the skyline over Indonestia.There were three programmes we tried never to miss, on the only radio with good enough reception  which was the car radio in our Austin A90 Atlantic Sports – I remember it well in 1957 – they were The Sky at Night, The Goon Show and Journey Into Space!Thank you Sir Patrick for such abiding memories and rest in peace, liberated from the problems of your latter years and their debilitation.

R.I.P.

Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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