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#0544* – 04-Jun-2011 – FARAGE Exits To Avoid His Main UKIP ‘U’ Turn

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/06/2011

#0544* – 04-Jun-2011 – FARAGE Exits To Avoid His Main UKIP ‘U’ Turn

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04-Jun-2011 – FARAGE Exits SURREY PEPP Hustings To Avoid His Main UKIP ‘U’ Turn!

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04-Jun-2011 – FARAGE Exits To Avoid His Main UKIP ‘U’ Turn

04-Jun-2011 – FARAGE Exits To Avoid His Main UKIP ‘U’ Turn 

The Fuhrer flees

At the Surrey PEP hustings meeting on June 4th , Nigel Farage arrived early and appeared to be in fine spirits. However, Tim Congdon hinted to him, somewhat unwisely, that he was to confront him with his own words condemning Pan European Parties at the end of the debate. When Congdon read out Farage’s statement threatening legal action against the European Parliament in 2004, Farage had fled the hall and could not be found.

Farage may be a coward, but he is lucky with his enemies. Congdon could have derailed Farage’s plans by humiliating him publicly with his own words, but sadly he lacks the killer instinct, and Farage fled to fight another day.

Here is the article Tim Congdon had found (probably on this blog!)
SEE: CLICK HERE 

 
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#0494* – UKIP SPOKESMAN MAKES UKIP LOOK STUPID

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/05/2011

#0494* – UKIP SPOKESMAN MAKES UKIP LOOK STUPID
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UKIP SPOKESMAN MAKES UKIP LOOK STUPID!
I guess we should not be surprised with the caliber of parasites surrounding the failed & discreditted leadership!

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Ukip make fools of themselves yet again with their unpleasant official smear attempts!

UKIP hits back at attack by its former leader

By Martin Banks19th May 2011


It is a disappointment that the party has not capitalised on its past successes

Former UKIP leader Roger Knapman

UKIP has angrily dismissed allegations that the party is split over possible plans for a new pan-European party.

The claims were made by Roger Knapman, a former UKIP party leader.

He said he had been recently approached on the issue by several “unhappy” UKIP MEPs.

Knapman, who led the party from 2002 to 2006, said, “It is a disappointment that the party has not capitalised on its past successes and does not seem to be moving forward electorally.

“At the time when UKIP should be pressing for a referendum on our continued membership of the EU, and highlighting the extreme costs of that membership, the party leadership seems besotted with the idea that we should join an unsuitable pan-European grouping that would mean we become part of the problem rather than part of the solution.”

Knapman, a former Tory MP and party whip, added, “I hope that the leadership will listen to these MEPs, and to the party membership, and reassess its priorities.”

However, a UKIP spokesman rubbished the comments, telling this website, “The fact is that UKIP has improved its position electorally.

“At the recent local elections in the UK, the number of votes for UKIP increased substantially.”

He said that UKIP “remains committed” to the UK’s withdrawal from the EU, a policy it is able to pursue within the political group it currently occupies in parliament.

He added, “Such comments from a discredited figure like Roger Knapman should be discounted for what they are: complete rubbish.”

To view the original article CLICK HERE

UKIP does itself huge damage with this sort of endless attack on any supporter, including their ex leader, when clearly they are wrong.

The statement has all the hallmarks of a business failure with no feel for the job or people either a child or a Management Consultant – Castratti at either end of the harmonic!

Roger Knapman led the party from 3 MEPs to 12 and a massive increase in membership to 30,000.

Nigel Farage has led the party to the largest loss of seats in any election – the membership of the party down to 10,000 realistically which is starting to climb once more and to 9 MEPs currently loyal to his leadership with several teatering on the verge of departure.

UKIP are currently squabbling like ferrets in a sack as is clear for all to see – it is just one long amateur hour for rather unpleasant liars and bullies.

To claim that UKIP is NOT divided over the odious concept of being subsumed into Pan EU Political Parties to oblige and assist The EU in the advance of diminution of National status and values is assinine beyond belief.

Perhaps the spokesman is without ANY intelligence and has not read the two oposing debates in the in house propaganda comic nor on the members only Forum nor even on the UKIP web site.

Promoting the concept is the liar and cheat Mick McGough and the discreditted fraudster Stuart Agnew MEP whilst opposing the motion is Prof. Tim Congdon and Trevor Colman MEP.

‘Oh what a tangled web they weave ………..’

Indeed in their ‘deception’ they do need practice as they look no less than stupid in their disarray and lies, squabbling and incompetence!

Regards,
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#0491* – UKIP SPIN COMING UNRAVELLED for Lack of Trustworth Spokesmen!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/05/2011

#0491* – UKIP SPIN COMING UNRAVELLED for Lack of Trustworth Spokesmen!
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UKIP SPIN COMING UNRAVELLED for Lack of Trustworth Spokesmen!
Imagine using proven liars like Mick McGough, Skeptyk and the like and little lads placed as puppets like Michael Heavers or Harry Aldridge!!

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those seeking to unravel the spin and lies of UKIP relative to the Tim Congdon luke warm support for elected leaders could serve their interest by:
CLICK HERE

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

PS
I note Mick McGough is desperately misleading people as ever.

Todays lies so far & we even have a picture of the belly of the beast ;-):


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BARBOO,Send me an email (michael.mcgough@lineone.net ) and I’ll send you not one but two emails from Tim disproving your conspiracy theories above;it wasn’t GLW POSTING IT.

Obviously the foolish fellow can not read – firstly I did publish the selected abstracts produced as spin by the corrupt of UKIP leadership team, which is still on this blog Before and After it was removed from the UKIP designed leak. Hunt it down by all means on this blog and others.

TO DISPROVE THE CONSPIRACY MAKERS ABOVE AND THE EVER HATEFUL UNTRUTHFUL RANTS FROM THE PONYTAILED MISFIT FROM CHEPSTOW;

In all the years of lies, dishonesty, attacks and venal self interest of Mick McGough in which he has determined to lie about me and seak to defame me he has as yet not found a single solitary deliberate or consequential untruth posted by me ANYWHERE with any intent to mislead or lie to ANYONE on any subject EVER.

It is noted that Mick McGough‘s efforts to demean himself as a proven liar, cheat and low life are most clearly shown by the utter failure of his lies and dishonesty.

The sad spectacle of this obese old man can be seen hovering in the background as ever drink in hand – clearly without friends he has become all too willing to push and shove his dishonest snout into any trough brown nosing his way to anywhere for as little as the opening of an envelope as long as he can be seen and even perhaps show off and tell people of his under valued skills!

Mick McGough is a proven liar, cheat and willing to cheat his so called friends and associates a low life of no integrity, honour or probity.

AS PROVEN REPEATEDLY.

For the record in passing in some amusement My Pony Tail is not doing well confronted with high dosage cocktail chemo therapy for my cancer which I have had now for 13 years! I’ll probably lose the beard and all body hair shortly – a small sacrifice in the battle 😉

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#0490* – UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/05/2011

#0490* – UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
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UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!

The endless use of UKIP affiliates who are proven liars and low lifes who abuse and defame members and supporters of UKIP who seek honesty, integrity, morality, transparency and probity to once more ressurecy UKIP and render it fit for purpose – Leaves them without credible defence when the truth leaks out!!

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Hi,

in the light of the habitual lies of both Skeptyk and also of Mick McGough which have been proven time and again, and in that they are in the habit of abusing any supporter or member of UKIP who dares to hold a different opinion – particularly those with a lengthy track record of seeking transparency and aiming to clean-up the party.

Those who hope to remove filth and liars like themselves from UKIP’s employ and leadership claque – Their comments, criticisms and attempts at defence at validation are clearly of no value nor worthy of any respect or cogniscenece.

That those who post as skeptyk are too ashamed to put their name to their lies and the style of their odious behaviour demeans UKIP more than they could ever be considered of value as with those who post as Independent UKIP or the moronic Gothmog (aka William Shaw) – not only cowardly but clearly as with the liar Stuart Parr and Mick McGough who is a placement on the NEC such scum of the earth and liars do UKIP more harm than every they may foolishly consider they aid it.

As with association with the crass, amateur and foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller and her sordid little AthenaPR agency.

The comments of Barbara Booker in response to ‘Geoffrey Collier’ a loyal and supportive member of UKIP for many years who has been frequently defamed and abused by the scum gathered in ambition around the leadership position in UKIP for his efforts to improve the Party and bring various seemingly clear theives to book where it would seem possibly many £Millions have been stolen, misappropriated or embezzled.

Ms. Bookers comments are, as ever, both reasoned and substantiated:
Geoffrey, to clarify:

When trying to check the authenticity of the Tim Congdon email, I found it did not appear on Michael Heaver’s blog as stated by skeptyk in post #1 of this thread. 

A google search brought up several references to it having been posted on 12 May, but in each case clicking the link produced: “Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog Michael Heaver’s Blog does not exist”. 

As I didn’t then know about the Blogger problem of posts being temporarily deleted (the explanation offered by Richard Allen and skeptyk), I assumed MH had removed the post himself soon after making it, probably as a result of a complaint from TC. Hence my ‘sceptical’ comment.

I now see from buzz.blogger.com that by 15 May most of the affected posts had been restored, with bloggers advised to republish any that were still missing, so when checking Michael Heaver’s blog again I expected to find the elusive Congdon email back in its place. 

Not so. MH posted three times on 15 May, twice on 16th, once on 17th and once yesterday, but still no sign of a restored or republished email from Tim Congdon. My original assumption is therefore not only unchanged, but reinforced by further consideration.

One of the google references revealed enough of Michael Heaver’s 12 May post to show that he was definitely linking Tim Congdon’s comments with what he called “the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge”. See http://www.britishblogs.co.uk/categories/nigel-farage/

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An interesting email hit my desk this morning which shows us how disagreements in the Party should be conducted. Tim Congdon, the second place UKIP leadership challenger from last year has ruled himself out of joining the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge. In his own words:Nigel has many gifts – he is an outstanding speaker and television personality. He has been elected, by a large majority, for four years. He must be supported by all party members. Should he remain leader indefinitely? Well, that is for the party to decide. At this stage I intend to throw my hat in the ring again in 2014, as I believe the party needs its centre of gravity to be in this country, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. You may forward…


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Skeptyk continues the email in post #1. 

It appears from the break in the text and the repetition of “forward this to whomever you please” that it is actually quotes from two separate emails, probably written just after Nigel Farage won the leadership election last November. 

There is no proof whatsoever that TC wrote them in connection with any recent leadership issue, and it’s my belief that someone has cobbled extracts together and recirculated them in a pretence of current support for Farage which may not exist. 

If this conclusion is incorrect, Michael Heaver should publish the email in its entirety, with date, title and name of recipient so that we can see it in context and check its authenticity.

The balance of the CLAIMED comment of Tim Congdon, as claimed by Michael Heavers and selectively quoted, as Barbara Booker states, was posted on this blog. CLICK HERE

Since Skeptyk’s posting was subsequent to the removal from Michael Heavers’ blog it is probable one of the dishonest creatures, posting as the cowardly proven liar Skeptyk, obtained the copy as posted by them on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled blog from the posting on this blog by me at CLICK HERE.

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#0487* – Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/05/2011

#0487* – Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP.
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Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP!

Clearly only a child or a fool would believe such a statement or of course someone who was a proven liar and utterly corrupt sycophant like Mick McGough – of no personal merit or worth who found with his tongue firmly placed for licking their incompetence and vile personality was overlooked!

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Hi,

I have unfortunately only received the comments of the main protagonist and an aside from Steve Allison – suffice to say with information leaks there are perforce some parts missing!

Though it seems Douglas Denny is in his dottage waking up to the reality that he has been duped and taken for the fool he so clearly was.

Perhaps it is his conscience after so many defamatory lies and general dishonesty that Denny used in the past to abuse people who dared to seek out the truth which so embarrassed him he felt the need to cover his personal involvement and that of his ‘chums’.

Unfortunately I do not have the whole of his confession nor the documentation which he had but I understand he has now handed to a UKIP MEP – lt us see what integrity that MEP can muster!

In answer to the Strap Line:

Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP.
It would seem Douglas Denny comments:

This statement is heavily loaded with innuendo and is inaccurate.  Not everyone who wishes to undermine the Leader are ( -actively- for that is what is implied) {wishing} to undermine the party. They may have other valid reasons for not wishing to co-operate with the Leader.  It happens in all political parties.

This is not to approve of course,  of Marta biting the hand that fed her – and I mean the party.

I have read the “blogg” article and and it is a very pro-Nigel Farage homily spun with no acknowledgement or account of the known failings of NF which, in themselves, have in the past and possible present, caused problems for the party.
The author forgets: it takes two to Tango.
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I made it clear I did not want Nigel to be Leader again at the leadership elections and said exactly why – and those reasons are now becoming apparent, especially the main one which I will now repeat. (On this private forum only).

I emphasise have not publicly criticised Nigel since the leadership election as he is the Leader, and does indeed have a large mandate from the membership.
That is not to fail to recognise and deny he has faults however, but I do not fully express them now as it is counter-productive to the party.  If this is the only point Mr. Heaver is trying to make, then I agree with him.

What I think is worth repeating though is: I think the main problem with any leader of a political party is they develop enemies and malcontents within the party and without,  with their leadership,  over a long period of time if they stay in the job for a very long period. Margaret Thatcher is a classic axample of this.  She was an excellent Leader, but they still threw her out for spurious reasons.  That is why I think leaders should stand down, or be changed regardless every now and then. (Every three or five years? -debate).

This effect causes problems of the kind we are now seeing.  It is up to those who are malcontent for whatever reasons to either pull their weight behind the party or re-consider what they are doing.

Leadership does not mean there is an automatic requirement of blind obedience from others however (unless you are in the military)  – it means bringing people together towards a common cause through example and charisma so that people want to to follow….. Douglas Denny.

 Steve ALLISON SAID:

I have read the “blogg” article and and it is a very pro-Nigel Farage homily spun with no acknowledgement or account of the known failings of NF which, in themselves, have in the past and possible present, caused problems for the party.

Steve Allisons comment:

Doug, you didn’t need to read the blog post to know this. All you need to read was the title and the name of the author. There are certain people in this party for whom the concept of Nigel not being 100% correct is something they cannot even imagine, let alone actually put into words. To expect Michael Heaver to question Farage in any way is like expecting a blog post by a Catholic Cardinal questioning the doctrine of Papal Infallibility! Unthinkable.

All Hail!! Gaius Nigellus Caesar! Those who speak ill of him do so of the Republic! Yea, kneel down and kiss of his arse, mortals!!!

Nigel’s a good bloke, we get it. I certainly support him; but there are reasons to criticise him and the one thing that is guaranteed to destroy a political party in a democracy is a sycophantic personality cult that rewards toadying – sorry, “loyalty” – to a man over wisdom and competence and devotion to a cause.

If UKIP takes that route, it is no better than the LibLabCon parties and its high admonitions on the lack of’democracy’ and ‘liberty’ are not worth a fig.

Steve Allison’s response:

This is exactly the route that UKIP is taking! Any organisation that believes it is 100% dependent upon one man for its success or failure has started down the path to ultimate destruction. Graveyards are full of people who were indispensable!. If the crash last year had been serious enough that Nigel had died, which I would never wish on anyone, even my worst enemy, or he had been so badly injured that he had to leave politics, are these people who claim Nigel is UKIP’s only hope also saying the party would have collapsed and now no longer exist?

When Nigel departs UKIP, because it is WHEN and not IF, then UKIP will continue and may even be stronger in the long term,  in fact I think it will be stronger in the long term without Nigel. Any gardener will tell you that when one branch on a bush grows so large that it overshadows the rest of the the branches then it’s time for the overgrown branch to be pruned back, otherwise the shape of the bush is destroyed and the longer the singe branch is allowed to grow the harsher the pruning becomes!

Douglas Denny adds his farthing’s worth:

I disagree with this statement too which is also inaccurate.

There were other suitable candidates,  two of which would have made perfectly good leaders in my opinon;  an opinon  based on having supported three Leaders already in the past and seen their efforts.

As Steve Allison rightly says – if Nigel had been killed in the aircraft crash UKIP would have gone on regardless, and would still achieve the kind of success we already enjoy.   The party would have gone in a different direction in some respects,  which might or might not have speeded up that process. Overall though, it is my experience in politics that leaders efforts are more useful during thier term with infrastructure changes and general party direction,  and  the aspect of personalities only becomes important and into the forefront of politics if they are in the focus of the media, – which for UKIP is at election times – and only if they get the media presence, and that only in the last week before an election.
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The reason Nigel had such a large poll with the members is because they have never heard of the others much at all,  excepting DCB perhaps.  He did not do well, so cannot have such a well-known or acceptable profile in the party as I thought might be the case.     Nigel, however,  is so well known in the party you could put him up for election as God and he will probably get 60%.

Tim Congden would have made an excellent leader,  and I like his stance on MEPs and UKIP’s efforts being more UK-centric, which resonates with me a lot,  so if there is another leadership election in due course and he stands I shall have to think carefully next time who to go for depending on the candidates and their policy in this respect. Who knows? TC could be the one !
Some others might make good leaders too, but were total unknowns.

Douglas Denny.

Then in response to an apparent interjection Denny continues:

No spat here on this subject.  It’s called rational, informed debate.
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This minion,  dogsbody,  jobbing party worker would like to know what the MEPs are doing exactly too but does not actually know, as he is not told.
Whatever it is, it is, but one thing’s for sure – if it’s in Brussels, it is of little use to getting Britain out of the EU.

I find snippets of information about what they do from the internet like you.

Douglas.

It would seem that Douglas Denny is making steps, all be they tiny, towards honesty and telling the truth which must be very difficult for him after so many years telling lies, cheating and inventing childish conspiracy theories to cover up the corruption he was party to.

Leopards DO change their spots – it is a measure of their maturity!

Though I doubt Douglas Denny will ever be man enough to apologise for his lies and his defamatory comments and inventions regarding myself, Niall Warry and others.

See the original article at CLICK HERE
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#0478* – UKIP MUD WRESTLING IN FULL SWING!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/05/2011

#0478* – UKIP MUD WRESTLING IN FULL SWING!
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UKIP MUD WRESTLING IS IN FULL SWING!
Steve CROWTHER FIGHTS DIRTY SO LETS SEE HOW HE DOES!!

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Hi,

It was interesting to note that Marta Andreasen issued her denunciation of Nigel Farage’s leadership on Monday – wide and far.

UKIP is so amateur and disorganised that it took until Thursday morning for them to try to mollify their memberts with a letter on the members Forum which was a copy of his letter to Marta Andreasen of that morning by Steve Crowther one of Farage’s placemen.

Within a relatively short space of time Marta Andreasen had posted the article I have posted in the previous posting above #02.

Were ‘Blogger’ currently functioning I would have made the posting there with a link here for those sufficiently interested to establish the facts and accurate truth regarding UKIP.

Now just a few minutes ago Steve Crowther has misguidedly published the letter below in an effort to ‘calm the horses’.

UKIP is now in a very difficult position as they have gone to great lengths over the last year or two to spin the story that the dishonest and untrustworthy Marta Andreasen was in some extraordinary way something of a coupe for UKIP and they did much to try to convince people this two faced, dishonest woman was some sort of EU Whistlblower having failed to check her CV and track record and swallowed her promotion story.

All of a sudden UKIP has discovered the truth my blogs have cautioned for a couple of years!

The abscenece of any statement of support for Farage from Stuart Wheeler who funds the party, or Malcolm Lord Pearson or for that matter Lord Niedpath, Lord Willoghby de Broke, or even the resident clown Christopher Lord Monkton is conspicuous! To note the faint and damning praise of Prof. Tim Congdon, now word from the past leaders in support nor written support from a single UKIP MEP is unfortunate in the extreme.

Finally along comes this letter from one of Marta Andreasen’s original sponsors the discreditted Hugh Williams!

Some may have sufficient knowledge to be aware Hugh Williams was debarred his own committee and thrown out of the UKIP branch he chaired for duplicity, dishonesty and underhand behaviour colluding with Malcolm Wood in a conspiracy to betray the membership for their own gain!

The only surprise for some is that Hugh Williams has displayed such crass judgement once again in his support and sponsorship of Marta Andreasen – that he is not a lawyer but and accountant will surprise few and that he is an Old Etonian should surprise no one in view of his behaviour!

Dear Steve,

You have asked me, in my capacity as Assistant Treasurer to UKIP, and also in my role as a qualified Chartered Accountant of forty years standing, to comment on Marta Andreasen’s assertion that “Today the party is bankrupt and so it has been for the last six months at least.” She also talks about “abysmal mismanagement” in the party.

As a good friend of Marta’s, and as her publisher, I just wish she had approached me before making these damaging and inaccurate remarks.

It is essential that I refute these two remarks and I will try to be brief:

When I was elected to the party’s NEC, and before Nigel Farage was elected leader last autumn, and therefore before you were appointed Executive Chairman of UKIP, members of the NEC would rightly call for up-to-date financial information to be made available to them at the monthly meetings. However, even without sight of such timely management information, the party was clearly not in financial difficulty at the time because UKIP’s audited accounts to 31 December 2010 show that the party made a small profit and also had a healthy balance sheet.

However, since you have been appointed Executive Chairman (about six months ago), and since Stuart Wheeler has become Treasurer, I would say that UKIP’s financial status and reporting has been respectively healthy and admirable. For example, and unlike before Nigel Farage was re-elected leader, now:

· We have a Finance and Remuneration Committee charged with keeping the party’s finances in good order.

· That committee receives weekly reports of the party’s bank balance and the latest one, prepared six days ago, shows that we had a five figure sum in the bank after the payment of all current and short term debts. (I suspect there are some political parties that might be quite envious of such a declaration).

· At no stage since these documents have been prepared has the Treasurer, or I, had cause to think that the party was even close to bankruptcy.

· The NEC is always presented with the latest of these statements at their monthly meetings.

· The NEC is also presented with a statement of how the party’s finances have fared over the past three months and how things look for the next three months.

· There is now a system for controlling expenditure. Marta makes specific mention of legal fees; these are now under a special system of control. So, again, if Marta had only asked me first I could have told her that she would be ill-advised to attack the party leader on that basis.

· There is a highly competent team that keeps the financial records at our Head Office. I keep telling them how proud I am of them and how grateful we all are for their efforts and great efficiency.

I hope that I have said enough to refute Marta’s assertions but I would like to add two other things: firstly, she talks about “abysmal mismanagement” and I trust that the above points show that she is quite wrong to level that accusation against the party. Secondly, I know of at least one Europhile Chartered Accountant who is aware of how UKIP runs its finances and who has unhesitatingly agreed that the party’s book-keeping seems to be in remarkably good order.

In short, I am at a loss as to where Marta has got her information from, because it is definitely MIS-information. It is particularly misinformation with regard to the past six months that she specifies. I reckon the party’s finances are in extremely good order and, to the extent that I am a member of the Finance and Remuneration Committee, I would like to express my thanks to all of them for this significant achievement; in particular, it is such an improvement over what I noticed when first elected to the NEC last Summer.

Lastly, when Marta calls last week’s election results “bad”, I have to disagree. I have two simple statistics to produce in support of my view:

1. In 2007, when the same local seats down here were last contested, UKIP was scoring one vote against ten for the major parties. Last week that had improved to one vote in three. An impressive improvement by any standard.

2. The other statistic is that, in the case of my home patch, Plymouth, since last week’s elections, UKIP has now risen to become the third party in that city.

As I say, Marta is a friend of mine and I do not like taking issue with her in public but loyalty to my party must come first and, when I find such statements being made which are patently false, as well as damaging, I unhesitatingly show my loyalty to the party by refuting them. As a former party treasurer and elected MEP she really should have known better and would be well advised to withdraw them, and also withdraw them from her website.

Yours sincerely

Hugh Williams
Assistant Treasurer UKIP

That Marta Andreasen’s behaviour is beneath contempt, divisive and destructive and in clear self interest is indisputable – that Farage is a hopeless leader is NOT Farage’s fault but that of the members who failed to be aware as this inadequate rose through the party ensuring he was their only spokesman and only known personality – easily achieved by publishing propaganda rather than competent information in ones members magazines and ensuring no programme of training or organisational structure – thus by surrounding oneself with dross one looks good and with a palace guard bought and paid for from Party funds one can protect against challenge or talent.

Thus spin takes over from substance and showmanship becomes a shoddy imitation of leadership!

Farage will survive as he is UKIP’s only asset but that he is likewise a liability is why the entire party is so clearly failing to provide us with the lifeboat we had all hoped.

The drama continues but will use the weekend for arm twisting and bribery to put forward a more unified face by Monday with statements of support as it is realised there is no challenger materialising – even the weak and useless Derek Clark, David Bannerman, Stuart Agnew, William Dartmouth, Gerard Batten, John Bufton and the like will have been frightened out of their short term ambitions by their long term greed!

Hey Ho – That’s politics!

Amateur. crass, duplicitous and venal!

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#0476* – Amateur Hour at UKIP

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#0476* – Amateur Hour at UKIP
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Amateur Hour at UKIP as they take days to respond incompetently and duplicitously to an every day management problem predicted by this blog over several years!
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Hi,

does this not rather typify UKIP leadership?

Marta Andreasen issued a public statement calling for the resignation of Nigel Farage on Monday.

Eventually some dweeb who has just presided over an NEC meeting where insufficient people turned up to form a quorum and they listened to an idiot making a fool of himself talking of 1,000 Councillors by 2014 after an absolutely catastrophic election that had just lived down to everyones fears of the new professionalism

Finally on Thursday a private letter from Farage’s appointee is made public when issued as a limp wristed and inadequate display of leadership on behalf of nigel Farage whose leadership ability has thus been made all too clear.

Here is the letter:

Marta Andreasen MEP
European Parliament
Strasbourg 12 May 2011
Dear Marta
As Chairman of the Party, I am writing to you to express my extreme
disappointment at your actions over the past three days.
While it is not unusual for there to be disagreements within a political party,
your public call for the resignation of the Party Leader is unacceptable.
Your comments were disloyal, not only to the Party Leader, but also to the
Party itself, which put you where you are and which elected Nigel Farage as
Leader only six months ago, with a 60% mandate.
You were also profoundly wrong in your analysis of our performance in the
recent election campaign – a campaign to which your own contribution was
not conspicuous. This is borne out by the detailed election results released
yesterday.
Your press release stated that ‘Party members and supporters are justifiably
angry’. You are right; they are absolutely livid at your behaviour. The
overwhelming – I might say unanimous – reponse I have had over the past
two days has been in support of the Leader, including from all three of the
unsuccessful candidates in last year’s Leadership election.
The Party’s members do not deserve and will not tolerate such disruption,
which can only undermine their hard work, especially from a senior member
of the Party who is enjoying the fruits of their efforts.
Any further action of this kind will be treated very seriously.
Yours sincerely
Steve Crowther, Executive Chairman
cc National Executive Committee, Press Office

Late in the day after the party has spent 3.1/2 days running around like headless chickens this smack on the wrist is unlikely to have any effect whatsoever.

We note Tim Congdon has been persuaded to provide a briefest of brief memo in support of Farage’s position as elected leader – with praise a’plenty for his abilities but a notable lack of praise of any leadership skills or ability and a strong criticism of the direction in which he is leading.

That this was provided to shore up a lad who has a reputation for underhand duplicity in his own interest and being placed as a puppet by Farage is notable – you may recall he was used to do a knife job and stab Delroy Young in the back!

They do say give a child the encouragement of an adult and they will take on the world!

Here is Tim’s damnation with feint praise as a follow on to Crowther’s ‘Naughty Girl’ letter:

Tim Congdon, the second place UKIP leadership challenger from last year has ruled himself out of joining the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge. In his own words:

Nigel has many gifts – he is an outstanding speaker and television personality. He has been elected, by a large majority, for four years. He must be supported by all party members. Should he remain leader indefinitely? Well, that is for the party to decide. At this stage I intend to throw my hat in the ring again in 2014, as I believe the party needs its centre of gravity to be in this country, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. You may forward this to whomever you please

Mr. Congdon has also said that:

Yes, the party must support its leader. As I have always said, Nigel Farage has great gifts which are invaluable to the UK Independence Party. But I will continue to argue that the centre of gravity of UKIP must be in the UK, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. Of course I support Nigel as leader, as we all must do. Please, please, forward this to whomever you please. I am again copying this to [deleted], anyway.

Let us not forget this is ‘claimed’ by Michael Heavers who has already shown himself to be untrustworthy, self serving and bought and paid for by Farage – it seems these are the extracts that suit his Master’s purposes!

The foolish little chap who only 2 blogs earlier was telling the world as a believer that UKIP was set to win 3 seats in Wales when anyone with ANY Political nouse knew damned well they had no plausible candidate, strategy, vision or tactics in Wales and would struggle to even get a few more votes let alone a seat with their idiot leadership and incompetent policy.

Yet we see the little lad trying desperately to link Marta Andreasen with some plot within UKIP, seemingly in yet another act of desperate dishonesty seeking to try to lie by inuendo as a coward and imply Marta Andreasen is acting for a group – WHO MICHAEL? Are you grown up enough to put your name to whom you were trying to besmirch and provide provenance?

I would hazard a guess he is so politically naiive he believes Roger Knapman is acting in concert with Nikki Sinclaire merely because Roger re-stated his oft made denunciation of The EU and becoming part of the problem by obliging the EU in return for money thereby prostituting the Party.

That Roger Knapman has made his comment AFTER the local elections and as the debate on the issue commences is no surprise and that he has asked a junior member of Sinclaire’s staff to act as filter for the media is hardly surprising – well he wouldn’t want a Polish workman to answer the phone at his house would he!

One drawback of Farage’s leadership is the endless promises of professionalising with absolutely no sign of doing so and criticism of people who have no experience outside politics yet he elevates children with no experience of anything as spokesman to avoid his fingerprints on every attempt and failure of management!
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#0474* – UKIP’s AIM WAS TO LOOSE IN MORE SEATS – I SEE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/05/2011

#0474* – UKIP’s AIM WAS TO LOOSE IN MORE SEATS – I SEE
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UKIP’s AIM WAS TO LOOSE IN MORE SEATS – I SEE!

I do believe as a party they were as surprised as I – it took them 5 days to dream that one up!
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Hi,

here is a brief extract from The Spectator with a link to the full article:
David Blackburn

Nigel Farage is in a bullish mood. Buoyed by the coalition’s unpopularity, Labour’s listlessness and the success of the True Finns Party, he has declared that Ukip is “no longer a minority party”.

I interviewed him ahead of tomorrow’s local election, the first test of his second leadership stint and the new direction in which he is trying to take the party. You can read the full interview as a web exclusive here;

To view the full article CLICK HERE

I gather I am not alone in thinking that few of us thought for a moment when we heard Nigel Farage’s comments that for UKIP this was going to be the great election – 2011 and UKIP’s time had come!

Little did we realise when he said on the day of election that UKIP were expecting to win at least one seat in Wales’ EU Council and had two targeted in Northern Ireland and expected to gain 24 seats in English Councils.

We not for a moment thought when Farage travelled to the unlikely count at Newport  where the new seat was to be delivered.

No indeed – it seems the aim was not to win seats but to loose in more seats – due clearly to incompetence, lack of preparation, lack of planning, no competent training, no vision, no strategy, no tactics, no clear message, no competent branding and a clear disinterest from the leadership team who deligated to utter incompetents who command no respect due to clear and obvious incompetence and lack of personality.

WHAT A DISASTER!

Here is the spin put forward by the little boy whose career experience we understand is teaching sums in a small private school:

Dear [REDACTED],

Much misinformation has been spread concerning UKIP’s performance at this year’s elections. The same seats were up for election this year as in 2007; therefore any fair comparison must be with 2007. I would like to draw your attention to the following facts:

  • In 2007 5 councillors were elected as UKIP. In 2011 9 councillors were elected as UKIP.
  • In 2011 UKIP took control of Ramsey Town Council. There is no comparable result for 2007.
  • In 2007 we took 208180 votes; in 2011 we took 323065. (an increase of 55.1%).
  • In 2007 UKIP fielded 957 candidates; in 2011 we had 1211.
  • In 2007 the average UKIP Council elections candidate took 217.5 votes; in 2011 it was 266.8 (a 22.7% increase).
  • In 2007 UKIP Scotland took 8197 votes on the regional lists; in 2011 we took 18138.
  • In 2007 UKIP Wales took 38490 votes on the regional lists; in 2011 we took 43756.
  • In 2007 UKIP’s lead Northern Ireland candidate Henry Reilly took 1229 first-preference votes in his constituency at the Northern Ireland Assembly election. In 2011 he took 2322.

I appreciate that we would all like UKIP to progress even quicker – but rest assured, we are making progress!

Yours,

Jonathan Arnott (UKIP General Secretary)
UKIP’s great guru of local politics managed to loose his seat with almost the aplombe and alacrity with which he sabotaged Prof. Tim Congdon‘s leadership bid!

Much is made of seizing overall control of a Parish Council!!!! One where Party politics has never featured before!
Vicar of Dibbley here we come – Next stop Government and the world.

Almost as hysterical as when UKIP made much of selling Marion Mason of Stevenage as a defectee from the Tories who was leader of the Tories in the Council – Indeed she was there were two of them!

As risible as the fantasy world of David Bannerman and the lies about his ancestry or the cheating and lies of Mick McGough, the lies of George Curtis or the utter unprofessional incompetence and dishonesty of Andrew Smith, Mark Croucher, Gawain Towler, Annabelle Fuller, John Ison and their sordid ilk – this sort of behaviour by UKIP’s failed leadership team merely brings the party into disrepute!

To make much of a seat in Northern Ireland is just a joke – If Henry Reilley had stood for the Sectarian Knicker Elastic Party he would have bounced back into the office he has held based on his PERSONAL record for 22 years.

Of the 9 District Councillors at least 3 were elected because of who they are NOT BECAUSE they were UKIP.

I appreciate UKIP has little professionalism and seemingly less competence but isn’t it time after 18 years that they started to get something right – this is a failure of leadership and just look at the entire so called leadership team can YOU identify a single solitary individual on that team and amongst its parasites that you would fund for a leadership role – Just one to start to build on!

The answer is clearly there isn’t one!

IF there was someone of competence training would have been insisted on – back up woul;d have been constantly available, campaigning would have commenced at least a year ago, target seats would have been selected and none but a congenital idiot would have expected to get a member elected in Wales without a campaign, strategy AND tactics – they didn’t even have anyone with one wit of political competence to put on radio and had such contempt for Wales they didn’t stand a single individual in a single seat – there’s commitment boyo!

We desperately need UKIP but with its present leadership team and the useless articles gathered around them UKIP is going nowehere – no wonder Marta Andreasen is making her bid for re-election through gesture politics so early!

To secure a British flag in The EPP will be a coup for them that will no doubt translate into a safe MEP seat in the center right politics of Spain.

Marta Andreasen‘s attack on Farage was unprincipled, unprofessional and underhand – her behaviour has yet again been, as this blog has warned since the duplicitous Hugh Williams put her forward for Malcolm Pearson’s insipid and witless support, she has acted entirely in keeping with her CV and track record which marked her out as self serving, venal, untrustworthy and dishonest – Spain is more than welcome to this viper.

For the many attacks mounted on Nikki Sinclaire, the lies promoted about her the sneering and efforts to denigrate her and the dishonesty and duplicity of Pearson, farage, Gill and others – perhaps you can identify a single speech or statement made in attack on UKIP or its core values nor has she spoken out against even Farage despite his having lied to her and about her and even gone so far as to denounce her on National TV.

Clearly Marta Andreasen has shown no such restraint and it is clear from the continuum of work for her constituents and the cause that despite Farage’s betrayal of her Sinclaire is unwilling to demean herself by acting in his manner lining up dishonest stooges to burgle and rob his offices!

In fact I follow her actions fairly closely in the public domain as with others who might be competent to crew OUR lifeboat and never once have I noted an act of disloyalty to UKIP, her electorate or her colleagues and until stabbed in the back by the party I note she was one of the largest single donors to the party even whilst trying to fund a Nationwide Petition to raise the profile of EUroScepticism and exploit the Government undertaking to hold a full debate on any issue that gained 100,000 signatures.

Farage MUST be retained IF he is prepared to be answerable to a leadership team in which he has no part – if he lacks the competence and common sense to accept his incompetence as a leader then there is surely no place for him in UKIP and it is time to remove UKIP from the scum that as gathered at its troughs and if need be start to rebuild and reconstruct our lifeboat.

Clearly Farage would/could be a great asset IF he is prepared to throw his weight and ability behind the cause as a team player but as an out of control prima donna propped up as a strutting poppinjay crowing from the dung heap he has built of those he pays as praise singers he is worse than useless and this same debate will, as in the past, continually be repeated.

I note with interest another of Farage’s proteges fell from grace in the courts with a driving conviction in Banbury, loss of two vehicles to the repo man and at least two more serious driving related incidents on the horizon! I gather perforce that Utility may prove a stumbling block and did anyone check the CRBs of staff, employees and party icons?

If for no other reason than the dung stacked high on which Farage must stand whilst others seek to stand on the shoulders of giants the rotten core of UKIP which he has built and engineered for himself precludes him being other than risible as a leader as results have shown repeatedly in domestic politics.

Sadly, possibly the only lesson that is learned from history is that we never seemingly learn from history!

Decent folk and activists identify the problem TRY to make changes from within fail and drift away faced by the scum of the earth gathered in defence of the indefensible AND their own interests – time and again this has happened and only the low lifes are willing to prostitute themselves to remain a part of the dung heap from which the cock crows endlessly.

Consider the impossible position of Bufton who was a complete failure in The Welsh elections as he had acted with SOME integrity and knowing what Farage and the idiots gathered in Wales wanted to do was bound to fail and was fundamentally dishonest he distanced him,self.

He knows now he will be snipped at and preached against and he knows that supporting The EFD is morally reprehensible but seeing his main chance of re-election he will pretend to stay top make changes from within when in reality he just lacks the moral fiber to stand on his own feet. Look at the other UKIP MEPs who remain wallowing in the dung heap under Farage’s control, they are without exception self serving trash – liars, cheats, nebishes and fools.

The circular argument will return and return until change or collapse occurs – whichever comes first and just as in 18 years UKIP has not moved Britain one inch closer to the exit clearly as part of a Pan EU political party to oblige The EU makes them part of the problem and no part of the solution as they carouse around the flesh pots and honey traps of Brussels & Strasburgh – bought and paid for by their masters The EU.
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#0413* – of UKIP in HERTFORDSHIRE & The NEC

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/04/2011

#0413* – of UKIP in HERTFORDSHIRE & The NEC
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of UKIP’s Meeting Last Saturday in HERTFORDSHIRE & The NEC Meeting on Monday!!

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I wasn’t going to bother with a follow up to my posting CLICK HERE as I only expected about 30 people to attend, but with Robin Page attending as the notable speaker this dragged the numbers up a little and I gather about 40 are claimed to have attended.
As one attendee told me ‘It looked like a normal UKIP meeting, an undynamic audience of almost exclusively elderly folk the men, on this hot day, in jackets and ties with their overly patched silver haired ladies teased out in rows’!

It was also noted by another attendee that as ever UKIP learns little and had in misguided optimism hired a large hall that swamped the tiny audience making the meeting look more of a failure than 40 people would normally indicate for UKIP!

It was good of Robin, if misguided, to try to bolster Martin Harvey’s meeting but he studiously stayed away from telling the truth about UKIP, mostly featuring his views on population – gypsies and their Pykie pals!, before shooting off to enjoy the weather – leaving the audience somewhat bemused by his avoidance of the facts regarding UKIP – 
to leave Martin Harvey with his delusions that change can be effected in UKIP in tact.
A measure of just how on the pulse of the party Martin Harvey manages to keep was his utterly ridiculous outburst and abuse of Christopher Hudson for having left UKIP to join The Tories!

Where has poor old Martin been sleeping?


Christopher Hudson left UKIP when his membership came due for renewal two years ago. That he had never been prepared to stand against Tories during his service to UKIP or subsequently when he was Organiser for Ganley’s Pan EU Libertas Party!!

Bye the Bye – how come Martin Harvey didn’t notice Christopher was opposing UKIP having seen the light way back then!

Once Robin Page had spoken and left the meeting rather slid down hill and became yet more pointless as with the best will in the world – other than for his economic OPINIONS – who would cross the road to listen to the ‘dynamism’ of Tim Congdon or even more tedious Gerard Batten!

One has to feel sorry for the UKIP members with the clowns they have in their leadership team and its parasites. Liars, cheats, nebishes and low lifes almost without exception!
I note the following comments regarding UKIP NEC meeting later today:
  1. Default Tomorrow’s NEC

    Hopefully Steve Crowther has a lawyer at his elbow tomorrow and resists the efforts of Farage and Nuttall to push Crowther into the mess they are trying to offload onto him. No wonder Crwother is keen to bring back Nikki Sinclaire into full standing with the party.

    Meanwhile Batten and AN other is coming under pressure to leave the Farage group which would finish him off.

    Stuart Wheeler is oressing for all MEPs to make a contribution to the party out of their recently increased salaries.If Nuttall and Farage keep playing games with Wheeler,he will chuck it.


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    Hopefully Steve Crowther has a lawyer at his elbow tomorrow and resists the efforts of Farage and Nuttall .

    Ha Ha ex-member!

    Farage will totally dominate the partially evolved idiots he has appointed to the NEC. But of course Farage himself is a Fecking Ijeet. He may find himself screaming for financial help to fight his legal nightmares – as usual!

    I very much doubt Farage will attend the NEC as he will have his impramature all over it but as ever he will ensure his fingerprints can not be displayed.

    Farage will have set up his muppets and puppets to do his bidding and there are already indications of the way it will go leaked accidentally by fools like Mick McGough whose comments on Butcher’s UKIP controlled Forum run a closer second in stupidity to his comments on UKIP.org.UK.

    McGough repeatedly brings UKIP into disrepute as he does being their representative at the CIB and a regular hanger on at The Freedom Association. 

    Just WHO is there in UKIP leadership of ANY Gravitas, credibility or political nouse?? Sadly there seems to be absolutely no one of substance merely a few sound bites, many of which are completely out of control.

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    The idiotic party leadership truly are in a complete mess on this issue. If they had any sense what so ever they would be looking for a face saving retreat but no doubt they will keep on digging.

It is also noted that in this thread was the comment that Stuart Wheeler was expected to call on UKIP MEPs to show their belief in UKIP and maker substantial donations from their newly increased salaries.

Having read Stuart Wheeler’s book ‘A Crisis of Faith’ – I have a feeling he is heading for another! Little wonder that the UKIP controlled Forum Anthony Butcher owns has removed the posting to prevent the inconvenient truth that UKIP MEPs do NOT donate their money except to enhance their own PERSONAL profiles to seek renewed election!

Wake up folks – YOU are being conned by a bunch of two bit chavs.
There would seem to be absolutely no record of a donation by a UKIP MEP that was not out of PERSONAL interest to BUY gain!

Compare the records of ALL The UKIP MEPs with that of the INDEPENDENT MEP Nikki SINCLAIRE whose accounts are published showing the size and diversity of her donations from personal income – Note also that Sinclaire is personally funding the Nationwide Petition for an In/Out Referendum.

I wonder will Stuart Wheeler have the intelligence to realise he is being duped and the courage to admit it and walk away – I doubt it based on his track record, this man made his money as a professional gambler and chucked £5M at the Tories without ANY rational controls and then went on to loose over half of his fortune when called on to use his business acumen!!

Has Stuart Wheeler the integrity to act and admit yet another ‘Crisis of Trust’ when he realises he has yet again been taken for a fool?
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#0409* – UKIP MEETING IN HERTFORDSHIRE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/04/2011

#0409* – UKIP MEETING IN HERTFORDSHIRE
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! .
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
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UKIP MEETING IN HERTFORDSHIRE!
With The Amount Of Publicity & The Dynamism Of Little Gerald I Guess They Will Get 20 or 30!
I’m Surprised Nigel Farage Gave Permission For Someone To Speak Without Him – I don’t suppose he expects many to bother going!

Almost as lame brained as holding a London Rally on Cup Final Day!!

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 Hi,

I wonder if you have seen all the advertisements for this major even!

OK I guess not!

Questions for Gerard Batten EFD MEP

Gerard Batten is due to attend an open UKIP meeting this Saturday in Hertfordshire. We trust that Gerard will be asked why he is still prepared to sit in the extremist, racist, anti Jewish & pro EU membership EFD Group when Mike Nattrass MEP, Nikki Sinclaire MEP and Trevor Colman MEP are not.

We would also be interested in his opinions as to why no action has been taken by UKIP’s NEC after The Sunday Times obtained incriminating statements that UKIP MEPs Agnew and Bannerman – the region’s UKIP MEPs – were /fraudulently obtaining tax payers’ money and illegally paying the UKIP Regional Organiser Peter Reeve out of their EU allowances.

Surely, their action has brought the party into disrepute as the story was featured in several newspapers and is clearly true as Agnew was caught on camera boasting of it!. See: CLICK HERE

That both Stuart AGNEW & David BANNERMAN are under investigation for Fraud with prima Facie Evidence should surely cause UKIP pause for thought and that they lacked the integrity, just as with Derek CLARK MEP, speaks volumes of the dross that are UKIP’s Leadership and its parasites.

And finally, what will Gerard do to oppose Farage’s desire to make UKIP part of a new pan-European party? See: CLICK HERE

Public Meeting
Broxbourne Civic Hall
Saturday April 9th
10:30 am onwards

Speakers include

GERARD BATTEN, UKIP MEP
Professor TIM CONGDON. CBE. One of the UK’s most influential economists.

Conservative and Labour governments have surrendered most of the UK’s powers of self government to the European Union. We must return the control of our Country, our laws, our economy and our borders to our own Parliament at Westminster. This is your chance to meet and question National and Local representatives of UKIP – the ONLY major political party putting Britain and the British People FIRST !

For your country’s sake, for your children’s sake – Vote UKIP!

Buffet lunch available, also refreshments, see overleaf.

Website- http://www.ukipbroxbourne.org.uk e-mail; martinharveyonr@aol.com

Tickets available for the buffet lunch at £6 each, bookable in advance.
Please send me ………… tickets for the buffet lunch at the Civic Hall on 9th April 2011.

Name…………………………………………………………………………..
Address……………………………………………………………………….
Post code……………………..Tel or e-mail…………………………….

Please send to UKIP Broxbourne & Harlow Branch,
St Helens, Middle Street, Nazeing, Essex. EN9 2LB.
Telephone 01992 892101

The Civic Hall is in Hoddesdon at postcode EN11 8BE. It is situated just off Cock Lane, South of the Town Centre and Golden Lion Pub. There is ample parking between Cock Lane and the Hall Complex.

This is a great opportunity to hear and question very good speakers, and also meet old and new friends during the buffet lunch, and maybe later support our very own UKIP pub, The Golden Lion. Cromwell is said to have frequented the area, so maybe his ghost will have a few suggestions regarding the Traitors!

Hope to see you, Martin Harvey.

Printed and promoted by Martin Harvey of St Helens, Middle Street, Nazeing , EN9 2LB. on behalf of The United Kingdom Independence Party.
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Hi,

I wasn’t going to bother with a follow up as I only expected about 30 people to attend but with Robin Page attending as the most notable speaker this dragged the numbers up a little and I gather about 40 are claimed to have attended.

As one attendee told me ‘It looked like a normal UKIP meeting, an undynamic audience of almost exclusively elderly folk the men, on this hot day, in jackets and ties with their overly patched silver haired ladies teased out in rows’!

It was good of Robin to try to bolster Martin Harvey’s meeting but he studiously stayed away from telling the truth about UKIP before shooting off to enjoy the weather leaving the audience somewhat bemused by his avoidance of the facts regarding UKIP – to leave Martin Harvey with his delusions that change can be effected in UKIP.

A measure of just how on the pulse of the Party Martin Harvey manages to keep was his utterly ridiculous outburst and abuse of Christopher Hudson for having left UKIP to join The Tories!

Where has poor old Martin been sleeping?
Christopher Hudson left UKIP when his membership came due for renewal two years ago. That he had never been prepared to stand against Tories during his service to UKIP or subsequently when he was Organiser for Ganley’s Pan EU Libertas Party!!

Bye the Bye – how come Martin Harvey didn’t notice Christopher was opposing UKIP having seen the light way back then!

Once Robin Page had spoken and left the meeting rather slid down hill and became yet more pointless as with the best will in the world – other than for his economic OPINIONS – who would cross the road to listen to the ‘dynamism’ of Tim Congdon or even more tedious Gerard Batten!

One has to feel sorry for the UKIP members with the clowns they have in their leadership team and its parasites. Liars, cheats, nebishes and low lifes almost without exception!

I note the following comments regarding UKIP NEC meeting later today:

  1. Default Tomorrow’s NEC

    Hopefully Steve Crowther has a lawyer at his elbow tomorrow and resists the efforts of Farage and Nuttall to push Crowther into the mess they are trying to offload onto him. No wonder Crwother is keen to bring back Nikki Sinclaire into full standing with the party.

    Meanwhile Batten and AN other is coming under pressure to leave the Farage group which would finish him off.

    Stuart Wheeler is oressing for all MEPs to make a contribution to the party out of their recently increased salaries.If Nuttall and Farage keep playing games with Wheeler,he will chuck it.


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    Hopefully Steve Crowther has a lawyer at his elbow tomorrow and resists the efforts of Farage and Nuttall .

    Ha Ha ex-member!

    Farage will totally dominate the partially evolved idiots he has appointed to the NEC. But of course Farage himself is a Fecking Ijeet. He may find himself screaming for financial help to fight his legal nightmares – as usual!


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    Moderator Richard Allen is a jewel in the rough Richard Allen is a jewel in the rough Richard Allen's Avatar

    The idiotic party leadership truly are in a complete mess on this issue. If they had any sense what so ever they would be looking for a face saving retreat but no doubt they will keep on digging.

It is also noted that in this thread was the comment that Stuart Wheeler was expected to call on UKIP MEPs to show their belief in UKIP and maker substantial donations from their newly increased salaries.

Having read Stuart Wheeler’s book ‘A Crisis of Faith’ – I have a feeling he is heading for another! Little wonder that the UKIP controlled Forum Anthony Butcher owns has removed the posting to prevent the inconvenient truth that UKIP MEPs do NOT donate their money except to enhance their own PERSONAL profiles to seek renewed election!

Wake up folks – YOU are being conned by a bunch of two bit chavs.
There would seem to be absolutely no record of a donation by a UKIP MEP that was not out of PERSONAL interest to BUY gain!

Compare the records of ALL The UKIP MEPs with that of the INDEPENDENT MEP Nikki SINCLAIRE whose accounts are published showing the size and diversity of her donations from personal income – Note also that Sinclaire is personally funding the Nationwide Petition for an In/Out Referendum.

I wonder will Stuart Wheeler have the intelligence to realise he is being duped and the courage to admit it and walk away – I doubt it based on his track record, this man made his money as a professional gambler and chucked £5M at the Tories without ANY rational controls and then went on to loose over half of his fortune when called on to use his business acumen!!

Has Stuart Wheeler the integrity to act and admit yet another ‘Crisis of Trust’ when he realises he has yet again been taken for a fool?

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Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins
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