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The Extreme Hypocricy of UKIP Policy & Their MEP William Earl of Dartmouth!

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The Extreme Hypocricy of UKIP Policy & Their MEP William Earl of Dartmouth aka William Dartmouth MEP aka William Legge MEP!


having spent a considerable amount of time over the weekend seeking documents and details of the hypocricy of UKIP’s MEP William Dartmouth and having written several pages of detail on the matter for this blog:
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In searching the internet for further relevant data to add I came across work by AutonomousMinds thaty had already been written and published and the work was even more detailed than was the article I was working on.
Realising that I still had a considerable amount of time and research ahead of me and being habitually lazy and aware, from my work on the subject so far, that the article at AutonomousMinds his facts on the subject were clearly accurate it came to mind that I could save a great deal of further work and time by scrapping my article and utilising that of AutonomousMinds’
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And so herewith:
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Is UKIP’s William Dartmouth MEP using an offshore company to conceal involvement in a wind turbine development?

Published 07/04/2014
Following on from yesterday’s post, the curious story surrounding UKIP MEP William Dartmouth and allegations that his land is the site of a proposed wind farm development – in direct contradiction with UKIP policy – has become even more interesting. This is a detailed post.We have managed to obtain a letter that was sent by Lord Dartmouth’s solicitor to UKIP chairman, Steve Crowther (below).

Mr S Crowther
Chairman UKIP
Eastacombe House
Heanton Barnstaple
North Devon
EX31 4DG Our Ref: TJH/TW/51270/0041

Direct Line: xxxxx xxxxxx
Your Ref:

Dear Mr Crowther

Re: Slaithwaite Moor Planning Application

We act for William Dartmouth.

We have acted on his behalf for the last fourteen years in relation to his properties including land which he owns around the town of Slaithwaite, West Yorkshire.

He has requested that we write to you in relation to the matter above.

A planning application has recently been made by Valley Wind to establish wind turbines on Slaithwaite Moor. Valley Wind has served the statutory third party Notices on various parties (including the landowner) and including William Dartmouth.

The title to Slaithwaite Moor is registered at the Land Registry. The registered proprietor is a company, Rosscroft Limited.

Valley Wind holds an Option over part of the land comprised in this registered title which we believe gives Valley Wind the option to take a lease of the relevant land to establish turbines if planning permission is granted.

I can confirm William Dartmouth has no interest in this land.

By the way, William Dartmouth does own adjacent land.

It may therefore be that this is why a third party notice was served on him. Yours sincerely

Tim Haggie
Latimer Hinks

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It states that William Dartmouth does not have any interest in the land where the wind turbines will be sited, rather the land’s ‘proprietor’ is Rosscroft Limited. However Mr Tim Haggie, solicitor at Latimer Hinks, does say that Dartmouth owns land adjacent to the site and that is perhaps why a ‘third party notice’ was served on him. It is interesting to note the address of the local office that Rosscroft Limited uses in the area…
By coincidence it just so happens that another local firm is based at that address…
Backing up Mr Haggie’s assertion about Rosscroft is a document that shows Dartmouth transferred land on Slaithwaite Moor to Rosscroft Limited on 10th February 2011.
However, Lord Dartmouth must be a very generous fellow because he transferred the land for zero consideration. In other words he gave it away to Rosscroft for nothing. And we are not talking about a plot the size of a domestic garden here, the land in question is shown edged in red and the Cupwith Reservoir is surrounded by a blue box…
But the situation becomes more confused thanks to a letter from Carter Jonas, Lord Dartmouth’s land agent, in April 2013 to campaigners who were seeking to prevent plans to drain Cupwith Reservoir. As you can see in the circled section, Carter Jonas have been instructed to explain to the recipient of the letter that his comments and remarks in a previous letter regarding the ownership of Slaithwaite Moor by Dartmouth are ‘misconceived’.
Yet in the same letter, two years after Dartmouth transferred ownership of Slaithwaite to Rosscroft Limited, Carter Jonas make this astonishing comment…
If William Dartmouth had transferred ownership of Slaithwaite Moor two years earlier, and had no direct or indirect interest in the land, why on earth are his land agents saying that Dartmouth is sensitive to the concerns of people who did not want the reservoir drained and has given considerable thought as to ‘how he could best accommodate what you are seeking to achieve’? How can a man with no interest or ownership over the land in question accommodate anything to do with its use or ownership?We have seen above on the TP1 form that William Dartmouth transferred ownership of Slaithwaite Moor including Cupwith Reservoir in February 2011. The documentary evidence is clear.

As such we have to pose the following question… if Rosscroft Limited became the owner of the land in February 2011, why is it that in August 2011, a memorandum written by consultancy Mott MacDonald asserts the following?

If this is incorrect why was it not corrected either by William Dartmouth or Rosscroft Limited?Indeed, this takes us back to yesterday’s post and that wind farm planning application. The applicants, Valley Wind Co-operative were duty bound to inform owners of the land on which they wished to develop a wind farm that they were putting in an application. Owners and tenants have to be listed on a form in the application known as an Article 12 Certificate. There are four types, A, B, C and D, neatly explained here.

A Certificate B is completed and submitted when the planning applicant (in this case Valley Wind) know the names of all the owners of the land upon which a planning application is being made. On the wind farm planning application, there is a Certificate B which clearly names Rosscroft Limited and William Dartmouth, both care of Carter Jonas in York, as an owners (or tenants) of the land concerned.

Despite Carter Jonas evidently being made aware that Valley Wind understand William Dartmouth to be an owner of this land, the planning application has not been corrected or amended. Given that such incorrect information is valid reason for a planning application to be rejected, it seems very curious that no correction has been made to what William Dartmouth has said is an error and what his solicitor has said is a third party notice.We have not yet been able to check with the Huddersfield Daily Examiner if William Dartmouth had requested a correction to their December 2012 story that identifies him as the owner of Cupwith Reservoir, nearly two years after the transfer to Rosscroft Limited. But the stories still make the assertion.

So the question is, why have Carter Jonas and William Dartmouth apparently made no efforts to correct the record which has seen the media and even their paid consultants identify Dartmouth as the land owner at Cupwith Reservoir? It’s an odd one.

We invited UKIP to comment on our story but have not yet received a response.

We also contacted William Dartmouth and invited him to comment on the ownerships and relationships concerning the land in question. He did not want to answer any questions from an anonymous blogger hiding behind a pseudonym and was more concerned in getting a name, however in the end he did email us the following:

But – to be crystal clear – I do not own the land .

So, we know Rosscroft Limited owns the land. But who owns Rosscroft? It seems the directors of the company have been all or mainly ‘paid for’ names on paper only who have directorships in a large number of companies in different fields. But there was a sudden and dramatic change of ownership last year that fitted into an interesting timeline of events.

In February 2013, pre-application advice was sought from Kirkless Council to discuss its views on the proposed wind farm development and whether it would have a possibility of being approved.

Shortly after that process, without explanation, the long standing directors of Rosscroft Limited were suddenly replaced by a professional director based in Monaco called Ian Frederick Ledger and a company based in the Bahamas called Ambassador Directors Limited. This change means that Rosscroft’s human owners on the other side of the Atlantic cannot be easily identified.
With Rosscroft now enjoying the benefits of offshore privacy, the formal planning application for the wind farm was submitted by Valley Wind.
It’s a happy set of coincidences that just by chance seems to have seen Rosscroft adopt a very deep interest in privacy for its beneficial owners – just before it was to become involved in plans for wind turbines on land that we are told was formerly owned by a UKIP MEP, whose party opposes them.Rosscroft was remarkably fortunate to have been gifted land that within a couple of years would be considered ripe for lavishly rewarding wind turbines; while William Dartmouth seems to have been remarkably fortunate to no longer own land on which an application for wind turbines – against UKIP party policy – was soon to be submitted. And of course there is also the incredible coincidence that both Rosscroft and Dartmouth share the same solicitors and agents! It’s a small world.

Curious people will no doubt be asking questions about all this. Here are some that need to be answered:

Given these series of events, do William Dartmouth or the Dartmouth family have any financial interest or share ownership in Rosscroft Limited?
Has William Dartmouth ever created a bare or discretionary trust where the trust property includes all or part of Rosscroft Limited, or any of the land transferred to Rosscroft Limited?
Why have neither Carter Jonas nor William Dartmouth immediately corrected what must be an inaccurate planning application, especially when his solicitor said as long ago as January that the Dartmouth has no interest in the land he is listed on Certificate B as owning?
Why did neither Carter Jonas nor William Dartmouth immediately correct the Mott MacDonald memo and report stating the Earl of Dartmouth is the owner of the land well after the transfer date?
Why have local media stories citing William Dartmouth as the owner of land he transferred to Rosscroft not been corrected?
If William Dartmouth, despite not being the owner of Cupwith Reservior and having no direct or indirect interest in it, was influential enough to bring about an offer by its owner to give away the reservoir to campaigners who did not want it drained, does he not have the same influence to prevent the wind turbines being constructed on the same land?
As a UKIP MEP and stated adjacent land owner, with apparent influence and concern in the local neighbourhood, will William Dartmouth be submitting a formal objection to the wind farm planning application?
Will William Dartmouth or his solicitor make available the ‘third party notice’ he is said to have received in respect of being an adjacent land owner to the application site?
Does William Dartmouth or his family have any direct or indirect interest or share ownership in Ambassador Directors Ltd?
Is UKIP’s William Dartmouth MEP using an offshore company to conceal involvement in a wind turbine development?

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The UKIP MEP, family land, a windfarm application, a party denial and EU money

Published 06/04/2014
UPDATED BELOW: An interesting story has been submitted by a reader, concerning a controversial planned wind farm development in Yorkshire that could call into question the position one of UKIP’s highest profile MEPs who is also a candidate in next year’s General Election.
The name of UKIP’s William Dartmouth MEP appears as an owner or tenant of land on a planning application that was submitted to Kirklees Council last year, to build three 100m wind turbines on unspoilt countryside next to Cupwith Reservior (location shown above) near Huddersfield, where the scheme applicant, Valley Wind Co-operative, is receiving funding for the project from the EU’s European Regional Development Fund.What makes this matter curious is that William Dartmouth’s office has denied that he is directly or indirectly linked to the application site.

All of the the information about the proposed windfarm development was sent to Nigel Farage, and a member of Farage’s staff eventually responded stating that Dartmouth’s office had replied claiming he wasn’t linked directly or indirectly. This is curious given this screenshot of the land ownership section of the planning application:

What also appears to put a question mark against Dartmouth’s denial, while giving the accuracy of the information above further weight, is a story from 2012 that demonstrates land ownership and three-way linkage between Dartmouth, Carter Jonas and Rosscroft Ltd (whose name appears at the top of the screenshot). The story concerned a planning application to drain Cupwith Reservior. The applicant was Rosscroft Ltd, the agent was Carter Jonas LLP, and the owner of the reservoir is the Dartmouth Estate of one Earl of Dartmouth (aka William Dartmouth) – an assertion reported by the Huddersfield Daily Examiner when reporting that Dartmouth’s appeal against the rejection of the application had also been lost. There is no evidence the media have been asked to correct their assertion.As if further evidence is required that where there is Rosscroft / Carter Jonas there seems to be Dartmouth, there is an entirely unrelated planning matter, where William Dartmouth was the named applicant for planning permission, with his chosen agent was Carter Jonas LLP. The links are clear.

Given all this information, it seems that UKIP has accepted Dartmouth’s denial without checking the facts for themselves, calling into question yet again the party’s internal processes for dealing with complaints or reports of conflict of interest among its elected officials.UPDATE: We have been sent a copy of a letter that was sent to Nigel Farage personally, just after one of the recent debates with Nick Clegg, from an opponent of the wind farm. It includes the following paragraph which suggests that William Legge (Legge being the family name of the Earl of Dartmouth) stands to gain in the region of £60,000 per annum if three wind turbines are erected on his land…

So I was delighted on your stance against wind turbines but have to point out the total hypocrisy of your MEP William Legge who is touting his land out for a wind farm as one of the above applications. This land is protected moorland and 300 meters away from a National Trust Bird sanctuary. It is estimated he will receive £20k ground rent per 100m turbine (there are 3 currently planned) – i.e. £60k per year. This is in total opposition to UKIP’s manifesto. I cannot see how he can be a UKIP MEP and at the same time pursue this course of action in his private life.

3rd April 2014
Dear Mr Farage, A neighbour of mine has I believe sent a similar note, I have been planning to do so for some time
but last night’s televised debate between yourself and Nick Clegg prompted me to do so.
Congratulations on a consummate performance against Mr Clegg by the way.

My particular concern as a rural resident in West Yorkshire is that in the past 18 months we have
been subjected to 12 separate applications for wind turbines within 1 mile of our property. Around
70% are being approved despite being situated in a green belt wildlife corridor due to the very
special need to reduce our country’s carbon emissions apparently. These are absolutely ruining the
countryside, driving residents mad with noise and flicker, decimating the rare birds and also bats and
making a few rich land owners richer…. Unfortunately they are not making a dent in our carbon
footprint, just our pockets.

So I was delighted on your stance against wind turbines but have to point out the total hypocrisy of
your MEP William Legge who is touting his land out for a wind farm as one of the above applications.
This land is protected moorland and 300 meters away from a National Trust Bird sanctuary. It is
estimated he will receive £20k ground rent per 100m turbine (there are 3 currently planned) – i.e.
£60k per year. This is in total opposition to UKIP’s manifesto. I cannot see how he can be a UKIP
MEP and at the same time pursue this course of action in his private life.

What I liked about yourself was a move away from the mealy mouthed public schoolboys of the
other 3 parties but I am afraid I see this as MEP Legge acting in the same way as the main 3 parties
with his own self-interest placed firmly to the fore and any principles trailing way behind. I strongly
ask that you discuss this with MEP Legge. As this is in the public domain surely if this continues it is
but a matter of time before this comes to the notice of the wider media and could severely damage
the credibility of your party.

Best regards
A concerned resident

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It is worth noting that David Cameron’s father-in-law, Sir Reginald Sheffield is often referred to as an example of a land owning rent seeker, trousering an reported £350,000 a year for turbines on his land. Is the only difference between the Sheffields and the Dartmouths a mere matter of scale?In addition to wanting the UK to leave the EU, UKIP has a policy against onshore wind turbines. So, having one of its senior MEPs set to benefit financially from money given in grants by the EU, for the installation on his land of three giant turbines – that the party’s policy formally opposes – would be a serious conflict of interest and a likely resigning matter. Further, that UKIP does not seem to have diligently investigated the reports sent to them by concerned residents in the area of the planned windfarm that one of their senior MEPs had this conflict of interest, seems to be another failure of internal process. UKIP has questions to answer about that.

But for now, William Dartmouth has questions to answer.

Why is it that he appears to have been untruthful about his interest in the land where the turbines are planned?

As a clearly stated owner or tenant of the land, as shown on the official planning applications, what does he stand to gain if the application is approved and Valley Wind Co-operative build the turbines?

I think we should be told.

UKIP have been contacted and asked if they wish to respond to this story.

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William said…

I am of course moved that Junius takes an interest in my humble doings. But Junius is very misleading: –

1. The presentation of the Spanish Minister for Industry was one of 17 – seventeen – items on the agenda of the Trade Committee.

2. I made 6 – six – interventions other agenda items during the course of the Trade Committee meeting.

3. After careful consideration I decided NOT to intervene nor attend for the agenda item of the Spanish presentation. I decided this because the Spanish Presidency of the EU is for 6 months only. Also in practice it is not possible to intervene on each and every agenda item.

4. The European Parliament is a never-never Land, a favourite theme of Junius. It is important to know precisely what is going on in the world outside the bubble. That includes reading newspapers.

5. I subsequently made an intervention on Turkey Item 14 on the agenda- transcript below.

“Thank you Mr. Chairman.
I think Mr. Sturdy is being very modest in his support for Turkey when he says that he supported the Trade Agreement. Of course the British Conservative Party of which Mr. Sturdy is such a distinguished adornment is of course fully in favour of Turkey becoming a member of the European Union. Perhaps Mr. Sturdy might have told us that too.
I simply make the point that comes across very clearly which I think you may well hear from me again: That is if there is such a strong trading relationship with Turkey in any case, if half Turkey’s exports already go to the European Union without Turkey being a member of the European Union, there really isn’t any terrible overwhelming case for Turkey to become a member of the European Union and as Mr. Higgins has said with his customary eloquence, there are significant democratic and human rights issues which do create huge question marks about Turkey ever becoming a member of the European Union before we even consider the impact on existing Member Countries of encompassing a country with a population with over 70 million and with a gross domestic product per head of less than a quarter of what it is in the United Kingdom.”

6. The level of Turkey’s population was simply NOT my principal point as above.
Junius is I am sure all-knowing as well as all-seeing but it is simply untrue that “everybody already knew…” (that the population of Turkey is over 70 million.).

Junius’ comments are simply inaccurate and misleading – as they are designed to be

William Dartmouth

25 February 2010 11:46

To which I felt I should respond and correct the silly man’s dishonesties and attempts to mislead – no wonder The Tories wouldn’t have him as a candidate, I wonder if Mummy wrote this for him or the EFD media muppet!


I had understood that You were present as stated by Junius but that the liar and cheat David Bannerman was not.

Further sir I had understood you paid but scant interest as you drifted in and out and loafed around reading your paper between meals.

That you had made a few footling interventions is also a matter of record but sir you make our point most eloquently – just what is the point in you.

Further it ill becomes you to berate those seeking to clean up UKIP when you merely pointlessly and valuelessly just ride the gravy train with your snout in the trough giving legitimacy to the vile Racist, Xenophobic, anti Jewish, pro EU and violent associates you choose to sit with in the EFD.

Clearly you are without honour and integrity and bring shame on your noble family – a status you in one generation lost – tossed out of your hereditary right with little more than a wimper – what a dishonest dweeb you are – a fraud hidden by a name!

Greg L-W.

Now we see him wriggling and squirming clearly out of his depth – you note he makes much fuss as  he desparately tries to portray Junius as inaccurate and failing miserably – had Junius and this blog not posted on the subject no one would ever have heard of the pointless committee fix he gave legitimacy to – further you will note his self interest as he failed to make any effort to cover for the dishonest and corrupt David Bannerman who like Godfrey Bloom on the ‘Wimminz Affairs Committee’ could not be bothered turning up.

Either EUkip must take the route it signed up to with Deadwood Clark’s sell out on behalf of the of his puppet master the spiv Farage  – you will remember they advocated and signed up to GREATER subsidiarity to the EU for Britain and more effort to strengthen the committees.

Either it is a worthwhile effort to attend and take part and thus the louse Bannerman and the idiotic Bloom are in abbrogation of their duty to EUkip strategy or it is considered a waste of time in which case why is Wee Willie giving it large!!

Clearly EUkip hasn’t a clue what to do – then again why would one be surprised when they have had no competent leadership for so long – you could hardly expect Wee Willie, Nuttall, Clever Trevor, Chocolate Button, Deadwood Derek or the rest of the useless articles to make a decision of value – just look at the decision they did make as they allied with the scrapings of EU politics – the only people willing to associate with EUkip!

Not only are they obscenely over paid but at any price they are clearly unfit for purpose. In full blooded betrayal of these United Kingdoms in all the years of EUkip MEPs the achievements of consequence have been zero!


What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Greg L-W.
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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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