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Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/04/2009


Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!



You may have noticed a few short weeks ago I advocated dual memberships.

Now we note the EUkip as it slides into failure, squabbling and fantasy is making pronouncements to try to hang onto its members – it is clear they are frightened of any active organisation and lack even the confidence to stand their ground against an organisation as evil and duplicitous as The BNP.

The failing current leader of EUkip as it haemorrages members has said in an interview for The New Statesman which can be seen in full if you CLICK HERE :

This is why we´ve always been open to dual membership, dual support. We´re entirely happy with people being members of UKIP and also being part of the Labour Party, or the Tories etc. For we´re pursuing that ideological goal, that pure vision, of repatriating political power to these shores. And we know very well that there are many who share that aim without seeing eye to eye with us on every other issue.

We do draw the line at those who are officers or candidates for other parties, it has to be said and, no, BNP membership is not compatible with UKIP membership.

But other than that, if you share our major aim then we´re delighted to welcome you and work with you. For it is very much the achievement of our goal that is important, not whether it is “us”, our tribe, that gets to exercise the power.

I note Petrina Holdsworth’s comment on what was UKIPForum stating:

The listing of the UKFP as a proscribed organistion is just a knee jerk reaction to a breakaway group which is likely to threaten UKIP`s votes in two regions.

After all we share the same views on the EU and much else and we are non rascist.

So we are not talking principles here .UKFP and the BNP both are a threat to UKIP hence the fact we now find ourselves in their company.

As has been pointed out on this forum there are other parties which should logically be proscribed in view of their extreme views but they are not.

Why not ?As I resigned from UKIP over a year ago this doesn`t effect me but I find the reasoning behind it amusing and hypocritcal.

We never banned Veritas members to my knowledge so I am delighted to see that UKIP now find the emergence of the UKFP such a threat.

I incline to believe Petrina, who is UKFirstParty’s first proclaimed candidate but not on the Steering Committee, is wrong as she only has the word of Douglas Denny that UKFirstParty is proscribed and not only is he frequently wrong but not infrequently he has a very poor recollection of the factual basis of events (hence his frequent revisionist versions of events) also he is not above outright lies when it suits him or for personal agrandisement.

I can not believe that EUkip, even controlled by Farage, is so insecure that it would proscribe UKFirstParty, which complies precisely with Farage’s own acceptance of rival parties. However this may explain why, in default of producing a CV and thus being unlikely to hold any serious office with UKFirstParty Del Young has opted not to join the new party and has remained as a member of EUkip – albeit he is no longer on the EUkip NEC.

Similarly I presume the reason Dr. David Abbott is not yet a member of UKFirstParty is that he is the next in line of succession in EUkip should Nigel Farage realise his Political career is over as he has promised to resign as an MEP if EUkip gets less than 10 MEPs in June.

The failure on the part of Del Young to get the Web Site underway and the lack of competent literature to date together with the association through Peter Cole and his Office with Tom Wise has hugely delayed the progress of UKFirstParty but finally they seem to be under way.


It would be entirely sensible for them to take up the suggestion I made the day after their initial launch, catastrophic and incompettent as it was, that dual membership with all Parties should be acceptable other than The BNP or similar racist and creed obsessed extremist parties.

As I stated at the time there was nothing to fear in spreading UKFirstParty literature and doctrine into other political parties less dedicated to total withdrawl from the EU such as The Tories, Labour, EUkip, Libertas and the like where at best they seek change from within The EU and in the case of EUkip GREATER Subsidiarity TO The EU.

Slippage of Principles in EUkip have been greatly noted as they have acquiesced to EU Diktat and the comfort zone of immersing themselves in the self enrichment of keeping their snouts in the troughs on the EU Gravy Train. A mill stone on the progress of EUkip besides the outright betrayal of the electorate, particularly by Derek Clark & Nigel Farage with the signature of acceptance of Greater Subsidiarity has been the importation of the utterly discreditted Marta Andreassen parachuted in as a foreigner with a track record of failure to remain in employment and quoted racist behaviour.

Then again the utter failure of EUkip’s 12 MEPs to deliver much beyond dragging EUkip into authoritarian control of a claque of members of The Faragista Fan Club which is not only authoritarian but to the far right and with an archaic ineptitude for modern management styles and techniques. A leadership ‘cult’ with much in common with The BNP both in substance and style – hence the obsession with proclaiming their distance and lack of trust for those in the leadership team who are frquently denounced as BNP without evidence to smear them – albeit they have so much in common these days under Farage.

To wean the less extreme right wing authoritarian members from the control of EUkip a dual membership would work greatly in the favour of UKFirstParty in the long run.

For those with the courage of their convictions who wish to commit to UKFirstParty it would be a great help to the new party if with the new members membership payment they mailed in the membership card of the political party they were joining from and on top of the years membership for which they pay they would receive a credit of the outstanding period of membership of the party they were leaving.

I also believe that it should be clearly understood that anyone found to be in or from The BNP without clearly notifying UKFirstParty when they join the new party should be subject to immediate dismisal without refund. Anyone joining from The BNP should undertake to renounce their membership of The BNP and repudiate the racism, be it overt or covert and the racist style of the BNP in its rejection of various creeds and beliefs considered legitimate under law.

That UKFirstParty’s primary aim is to actively campaign to leave the EU and if possible engineer the disassociation in a peacefull and amicable manner and that this is similar to the ‘claimed’ aim of EUkip although EUkip has the more clandestine aim of Greater Subsidiarity and had had the wish to amalgamate with or conjoin together with Libertas – until rejected by Libertas – minded that Libertas is and integrationist Party with hopes for change.

There is no reason for UKFirstParty to fear joint membership with EUkip in as far as EUkip is prepared to go and those in EUkip who reject Subsidiarity to The EU can march that extra distance with UKFirstParty to mutual gain.

UKFirstParty should welcome anyone who wishes to hold dual membership with any other party other than The BNP or similar extremist and racist Parties or those based upon or in rejection of any legal religious or supertitious beliefs.

UKFirstParty should agree that no Officer of the party may hold membership of any other political party.

UKFirstParty should grant transferance of outstanding membership period of anyone taking up sole membership FROM another party.

UKFirstParty should undertake to co-operate with any political party, other than the BNP or similar, which espouses withdrawal from The EU, initially including the more withdrawalist factions amongst the parties seeking change or greater subsidiarity – but once established it should take a vote amongst its members as to whether this paragraph should remain.

For further information on The UK First Party which claims to be a non-racist, non-sectarian party bookmark this page and come back to the Blog regularly and we will try to keep you up to date.


What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62


I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:


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