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#0373* – UKIP ELECTED NEC MEMBER – A COMMENTARY!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/03/2011

#0373* – UKIP ELECTED NEC MEMBER – A COMMENTARY!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP ELECTED NEC MEMBER Dr. Eric EDMOND – A COMMENTARY!

EU Economic Incompetence & UKIP’s SORDID LEADERSHIP!

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Hi,

Dr. Eric Edmond has been an excellent commentator or the economics and monetary antics of The EU and The EUro – as many will be aware it was his forensic approach to ensuring that other peoples’ money was not stolen, purloined or fraudulently used that caused him difficulties with UKIP where he had been elected to The NEC by UKIP members.

It soon became clear that the dishonesty of UKIP leadership, its then corrupt and venal financial management and the corruption that surrounded UKIP, its leadership and its parasites were so scared to have an honest man in their midst they engineered his removal – as they had with David Abbott & Del Young subsequently and Ian Gilman, Petrina Holdsworth, Richard Suchorzewski, Martin Hasslam and Linda Guest previously.

For a fuller list of UKIP members who have resigned  mostly in disgust at the incompetence, dishonesty, corruption and behaviour of the trash that has risen to self enrichment as UKIP Leadership and its parasites CLICK HERE

That Eric Edmond has spent much of his time since being dishonestly removed from his elected post on UKIP’s NEC travelling it does not mean he has lost interest in the cause – merely that he now seemingly runs his blog on Pacific Standard Time (well until the tsunami arrives I guess 😉
 

Wednesday, 23 March 2011

Portugal government may collapse before EU summit

Thus reported Reuters today. The PIGS are falling like dominoes as economic reality bites and produces political unrest on the streets and in domestic parliaments, even that of the chief Eurocrat Barroso. Its gratifying to have one’s predictions come to pass! Only the S for Spain is now left. If that goes so does the Euro and the EU as we know it.

I spent last week driving around West France. I visited La Rochelle scene of the post St Bartholomew’s eve massacre Huguenot Protestants fight against their Catholic neighbours attempt to ethnically cleanse them. Many Huguenots fled to London where they made a huge contribution to the English economy.

I was quite appalled at some of the comments written by the usual Farage sycophants about the late Geoffrey Kingscott and the very much alive Greg Lance Watkins whose cancer has re-emerged. Both strongly supported the anti-EU movement and the nasty things written by the Farage sickos about Watkins, a very ill man tells everything you need to know about the Farage Cabal.

I gather someone asked why I no longer post on Anthony Butcher’s forum. Simple, Mr Butcher was afraid to apply his own rules on personal abuse to the Farage sycophants who now dominate what was once, but is no longer, a decent debating platform.

I have been amused to receive a number of emails from the prententiously entitled, Mr. Robert H. Brown – PPC for UKIP NW Cambs. When I pointed out to him the McTroughian error of his ways he then wrote as Mr. Robert H. Brown – Chairman of UKIP NW Cambs. He clearly has swallowed the Farage myth hook line and sinker. He would do better to listen to those who personally know what Farage is. NF boldly goes only where the TV cameras are!

But as long as UKIP is full of chairman like Mr Brown NF can carry on boozing in Brussels and turn up for his Uncle Tom Eurosceptic spot on QT. The BBC know every NF appearance on QT boosts their Europhile cause by Farage polishing UKIP’s fruit cake and loony image.

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Greg_L-W. said…

Hi, your financial commentary, which I regularly read, aside: Thank YOU for your kind words regarding the return of my really rather irritating cancer. At the moment I feel a bit like Spike Milligan ‘I told you I wasn’t well’ but as you say – as yet I am VERY much alive and determined to route out the cancer within UKIP leadership and its vile parasites as – just at the moment – it is our only potential lifeboat. I do fear it is irreparably damaged by the detritus and ordure it carries for a crew and it is standing in the way of the a moral, ethical, honest group emerging to act as leaders of stature not self serving ner do wells like UKIP – a body which can redeem these United Kingdoms. I was interested to see the self serving antics of Mr. Baroso & the EU charlatans have taken his personal student Communism to the extreme and bankrupted his own Country. Do his ancestors know shame? The Portugese Government fell with the resignation to the President at about 21:00hrs. 23-Mar-2011 Spain NEXT – there are no fudges left in The EU ammunition locker, only lies. Regards, Greg_L-W.

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#0253* – Ian GILMAN of UKIP NEC Casts a Little Light on UKIP CRIMINALITY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/01/2011

#0253* – Ian GILMAN of UKIP NEC Casts a Little Light on UKIP CRIMINALITY! .
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! .
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name! .
Ian GILMAN of UKIP NEC Casts a Little Light on UKIP CRIMINALITY!
Ian GILMAN Exposes some details re: Tom WISE UKIP MEP,
as he remembers them!

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Hi,

To QUOTE Ian Gilman re: Tom Wise UKIP MEP jailed for his criminality for 2 years – you may make what you will of Ian Gilman’s statement regarding Tom Wise and UKIP leadership corrupion amongst its leadership and their parasites in betrayal of the many decent members:

The case of the corrupt and jailed former police officer and UKIP M.E.P. Tom Wise Esq. again raises its head.
In October 2005; I was the only NEC member to attempt to do something about Mr. Wise following publicity and gossip about his activities. I was systematically blocked and prevented.
Minutes from that NEC should show my perhaps twenty minutes of effort on behalf of the members who we claimed to protect.
Abuse was heaped upon me together with shouted requests that I must be “shut up”.
Frauds were explained that would cause the Inland Revenue and Police to investigate and jail numerous UKIP members if revealed, and I being perhaps ‘jointly and severally liable’ for matters that I knew nothing about decided to step aside. Why after all; should I be responsible for others crimes as described ?
I was a volunteer for 15 years who asked for and took nothing from ukip, only satisfaction that I and others believed that we were doing our duty by our country and its history.
Please refer to the thread last August ‘ Bloom blast for shoplifters’ to understand much that I am writing about. It will prevent repitition. Mr . Denny provoked the defence of my position.
In attempting to actually discipline Mr. Wise who had for example destroyed the legitimate NEC approved ‘UKIP Wine World ‘ (conceived by me to assist paying our General Election debts of £ 93,000) from which no monies can be identified despite Mr Wise describing his importation and storage of 1,000 bottles of fine wines ( a commercial quantity ) perhaps from The Lebanon and his friends vineyard then sales via ukip meetings and membership lists; I was opposed with such venamence as to realise that I had no place any longer at that table.
Further; the dark threats emanating from that meeting indicated that eventually matters affecting the volunteer membership , many of whom were/are pensioners and our funds would legitimatly cause some to be jailed or fined.
My legalally constituted UKIP Wine World (named by me) involved proper Customs & Excise paperwork, sales sheets/distribution sheets and monthly payments electronically to UKIP H.Q.
It would satisfy the treasurer/auditor/Electoral Commissioners/Customs& Excise.
Concerning Mr. Colman’s enquiry; I wonder if his terms of reference were drawn so narrow so as to preclude most of that which was actually relevant.
I was never requested to give evidence; despite speaking to Mr Colman about matters.
Incredibly, when Mr Wise was referred to British Police his home force Beds. was given the task.
Why ?
Traditionally the Metropolitan police handle such cases.
With the close association that Mr. Wise had with Beds police as described by him; why did they not immediately hand over to another force the case which broke in 09/05 and concluded in 11/09 !
I will now quote directly from the file as originally constructed / evidence bagged and numbered and signitures upon a legal statement identifying its existance for identification. Later as far as I understood it should have all been contained within the file named Regina v Thomas Harold Wise. This will be held by Beds. police, C.P.S., Southwark Crown Court and I gather The Justice Dept. The Home Office and aparently Number 10 Downing Street.
“Wise explained to ***** all about his frauds /embezzlements of public money…..”
“Wise had not only explained his frauds, he then explained that he is safe from prosecution”
“Wise claimed to have lots of contacts within Bedfordshire Police, including “high up contacts “, whatever that means “
Wise, stated *****, claims to enjoy protection and will not be prosecuted.”
“Wise claimed to have met and talked with The Chief Constable of Beds. “
“Wise claims to have visited Beds Police H.Q. and spoken with those who would investigate him and to have been assurred that he will not be investigated “.
” ***** invoked the social life/circle of Wise who enjoys a drinking / eating circle of greedy sycophants who probably patronise The Ship public house in Linslade, Leighton Buzzard Beds ( Wing Road in fact maybe 200 yards around from his house ) . Excess of indulgance evidently being the motivating factor. “
“Wise likes to invoke the fact that he is a former police officer “
“Wise gave to former Detective Superintendent Trevor Colman of Devon and Cornwall Police a statement early in 2006 admitting everything yet is confident that he cannot be prosecuted”
Thus in fact Mr Wise evidently labourd in the belief that he was immune.
So, where did this leave the hapless witnesses ?
Detective Chief Superintendant Miss Debbie Simpson headed Beds police Economic Investigation Unit.
We are told that she is ‘partnered’ and that her ‘partner’ was found employment there too.
Her partner was a police officer in Beds.
Her partners father is explained as a previously a Beds police Superintendant.
He is married to the previous Chief Constables Secretary.
The Chief Constables secretary has hourly and daily access to The Chief Constable who the reader will see from the above direct quotes from the file as originally constructed is described as rather too close to the defendant.
Nothing is implied by the above, only reported facts are written. Without Prejudice.
Why, oh why did Beds Police not hand this case over to another force ?
Surveillance by me due to concerns about my own security and legal position in a corruption case that had odd aspects to it involved the Ship Road, Wing Road areas of Linslade and divers areas around Leighton Buzzard. Woburn Road , Kempston Beds. areas too and those working there too formed part of my investigative personal protection.
Threats to me and criminal damage and tracing of; with two nasty telephone calls to my then recently widowed mother ( different telephone area to me ) alarmed me too.
Given everything supplied to Beds. police ,
Where is the wine world monies generated by Mr Wise ?
Where were its first bankings ?
Were there any onward transfers / sharing of that money ?
Where has the treasurer accounted for that money ?
Was the auditor satisfied with the accounting, and Electoral Commissioners too ?
Why immediately upon being offered the Wise case did Beds police Chief Constable not declare not only the forces interests in matters but the Economic Investigation Unit’s association too ?
What was the role of Detective Inspector Shane Roberts ?
Please name all officers friendly with or within the circle of Mr Wise, to include the drinking/dining set as described and on file ?
Did any officer have to move departments/ accept transfers tempoary or permanent during this case ?
Was any police officer/retired officer or police authority employee in the habbit of buying wine from Mr Wise ?
What is the import licence number of Mr. Wise’s wine business ?
Which bonded warehouse, and owned by whom stored the wine imported as decsribed by him ?
Was customs VAT paid on the wine, and to which office ?
When a complaint was made to Beds police about the case (not me ) why again was an internal officer Det. Insp. Green given the job, an outside force surely should have looked at this ?
When a complaint was made to Beds police authority and Miss Stephany McMenamy (described as completly out of her depth) why did she not refer it to an outside force ?
Why then were (by now) three, yes 3 investigations concerning former police officer Mr. Wise retained within Beds and not referred out to completly neutral officers where Mr Wise could never ever make claims of friendship and perhaps forms of influence; or friendships made through an interest in wine. ?
I went to another police force who became so concerned about matters that they ” called for the papers” that is the Wise file in order to read and understand it.
At a later meeting a Detective Inspector changed his attitude to me , having read the file and brushed me off with ” not in the public interest ” to pursue this, despite the intimidation of my mother and myself,. Did he actually mean not in the interest of police officers careers ?
As I explained to him, that intimidation never prevented me doing my duty and presenting evidence to a court, and seeking to protect UKIP members and their funds. Why was he now so scarred ?
Why have requests under the Freedom of Information Act affecting this case from two police forces been blocked ?
Why do those forces appear to collude and use the same letters ?
Why were police officers identified by Mr Wise not interviewed/cautioned and statements taken?
Were witnesses warned by the police about the claims of closness made by Mr Wise placed upon file in evidence bags and the liklihood of trouble if they persisted with their evidence ?
Were all statements taken of a professional quality admissable in court, or was theredisquiet about the effot put in to produce evidence that witnesses could sign for and stand in court under oath ?
Why has it been reported and circulated ( I can only repeat that explained to me ) that as he entered court Mr Wise Mr Wise was heard to say to his fellow defendant ‘ dont worry your pretty little head about this case deary, I am a friend of The Chief Constable’
Why then, if the reports are anywhere near accurate was the case not stopped and immediately referred to the Police Complaints Commission and another police force ?
Why have all attempts to obtain documents about this case been blocked and thus civil actions prevented ?
During the 4 year 2 month enquiries were Mr Wise’s computer systems properly opened and contents thoroughly investigated ?
Lord Ted Willis liked to talk about ‘The Long Arm of the Law, but perhaps here Ancient Greece that gave to us the Demos that we fought and gave so much to preserve can play a part.

The Hydra is my metaphor, the ghastly many headed beast perhaps adequatly reflects the many aspects of corruption that pervades matters. How sad..

The original can be found amongst the very questionable and largely dishonest ramblings hosted by Anthony Butcher on his Forum in accord with the instructions of UKIP leadership.

I can confirm most of what Ian Gilman is claiming based upon my own involvement during the period in question and my direct involvement in seeking to bring Tom Wise to Justice and thus to jail.

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#0251* – Niall WARRY’s EFFORTS TO CLEAN-UP UKIP & DENNY’s LIES

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/01/2011

#0251* – Niall WARRY’s EFFORTS TO CLEAN-UP UKIP & DENNY’s LIES!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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Niall WARRY’s EFFORTS TO CLEAN-UP UKIP & DENNY’s LIES!
Ian GILMAN SEEMINGLY SEEKS PRAISE AS AN NEC MEMBER!

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Hi,

many will remember the very public spat Niall Warry had with Douglas Denny as Douglas Denny dishonestly and duplicitously wriggled and squirmed to Cover-Up for the proven criminality of Tom Wise.

Many will remember his insulting and abusive comments regarding myself and Daniel Foggo and the fact that I refused to hand over the evidence to Douglas Denny as he was both a known liar and utterly untrustworthy.

Many will remember when his own colleagues by a majority voted him out of office for his dishomnesty and corruption as Returning Officer and Geoffrey Kingscott was put in place to replace him – sadly Kingscott was little better in the long run, and he too refused to run a fair and honest election, thus Farage was able to capitalise on the sordid dishonesty of Mark Croucher and Annabelle Fuller and the lies and chicannery of John Moran, David Lott and Jim Carver and seize the position of leader.

Not to mention the two faced and untrustworthy behaviour of Christopher Gill and his clandestine meetings with Richard Suchorzewski in his support at David Rowland’s golf course or the duplicity of Toby Mickelthwaite and his damning support for Suchorzewski (who clearly had the measure of the pond life that formed UKIP’s leadership CLICK HERE)

The corrupt cover-up attempts of the clearly untrustworthy bent ex copper Trevor Colman rewarded for his efforts to cover for Farage and protect Tom Wise by taking over the odious and inept Graham Booth’s seat was an integral part of Niall Warry’s efforts to have Tom Wise brought before a disciplinary committee – which I offered to attend with cast iron proof that Tom Wise had defrauded the tax payers and embezzeled money and had been aided in his efforts by Lindsay Jenkins who signed the instruments of the fraud.

As a part of the cover-up Douglas Denny insisted that only evidence handed over to him could be used – as the Court cases were still pending I declined Denny’s offer to take control of the evidence as it was clear that he was untrustworthy and Trevor Colman knowing I held the evidence also refused to take it into consideration.

It is probable that if they could have gained control of the evidence Tom Wise would not have faced trial and been sent to prison for two years.

Here is a brief comment by Niall Warry: 

It was I who asked for a disciplinary hearing which was turned down by that well known Nige€ sycophant Douglas Denny as there was no evidence!!!

You will find much more of the lies of Douglas Denny and his general dishonesty if you CLICK HERE

I understand that Ian Gilman is rather belatedly making much of the fact that he claims to have also asked Denny to instigate a disciplinary hearing – though I do concede that Ian Gilman was most usefull in obtaining facts and links for me I do not recall his formal application in the October of 2005 but if he did make such a request as an NEC member it is surprising that I missed it, in view of my information sources at the time.

You may well remember that it was the payment of a sum of money Nigel Farage owed to Lindsay Jenkins that he was trying to renege on that brought the matter to the surface and led to the inept and arguably criminal attempt of Mark Croucher to ‘set up’ Petrina Holdsworth as having received money in Strasbourg – which she most emphatically did not.

To pay his personal debt to Lindsay Jenkins either David Lott, Robin Collett or Farage himself put the bite on Tom Wise for a part of the stolen money, I believe, which was used to settle Farage’s debt. Since I had arranged the foreward for which he had agreed to fund Jenkins’ printing costs in her booklet on EU police, I had unequivocally stated to Farage that I had no desire to fall out with him but he was not going to renege on his undertaking made via me to Lindsay and it was entirely up to him whether he acted honourably and paid or subsequently paid bailiffs together with costs.

IF Ian Gilman made a claim beyond his position on the NEC I am surprised as I say, but if he did he is more honourable than I incline to believe he is – well done. Perhaps he would care to supply details and they can be added to the Denny blog to further show what a ghastly unstable fantasists the liar is.

I am aware a couple of other people also called for a disciplinary hearing to show that the FACT that Tom Wise had beyond doubt brought UKIP into disrepute but Douglas Denny seemingly blocked these also.

Interestingly during the period that I was under attack from the low lifes of UKIP at the time like Denny, Mark Croucher, McGough, Bob Feel Martinis, Butcher and others for my efforts to clean-up UKIP and bring Tom Wise to book for his corruption – including Butcher jumping together with Brendan Padmore through a series of hoops and dishonestly banning me from their increasingly squalid forum for telling the truth against the instructions issued to them by UKIP, Tom Wise spent some £8,000 on lawyers trying to silence me and suppress the truth.

Tom Wise was a criminal.
Tom Wise was aided in his criminality by Lindsay Jenkins.
Nigel Farage made material benefit from the stolen money.
That a number of individuals in UKIP’s leadership colluded in Tom Wise’s criminality after the even is irrefutable.

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