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#276* – BEHAVING LIKE THE VILLAGE IDIOT TO LIBEL!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/02/2009

#276* – BEHAVING LIKE THE VILLAGE IDIOT TO LIBEL!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

BEHAVING LIKE THE VILLAGE IDIOT TO LIBEL CAN BE NO DEFENCE UNLESS ONE CAN PRODUCE A CERTIFICATE OF IDIOCY IN PROVENANCE!!!

05 February 2009 11:35

Bob Feal-martinez said…
The event seems to by special invitation only and unlike certain people I do not gate crash meetings. If the organisers were interested in inviting me they would have responded to my email today. They cannot argue they didn’t get it because I instigated the local press contacting them.

If the agenda has been published then perhaps you could direct me as to where.

Also we see on the Common man that Haslam has rather shot himself in the ‘holier than though’ foot.

In December of last year, Mr Haslam invited a number of people to a meeting at a location in West Sussex.

After the recriminations following Mr Haslams ejection from the NEC, those present were more than a little surprised to discover that the first speaker was one Buster Mottram. This was nothing compared to the stunned silence when the second speaker was introduced, for it was none other than one Mr N Griffin, BNP leader.

It is also suggested that Edmond is to defect to Libertas. Rather an odd thing to do given that that party is about remaining in Europe.

All in all the pigeons are coming home to roost, it seems the party leadership was right to take the actions they have over the last few months. I wonder how the others who signed the NO letter are feeling, having clearly been so badly betrayed by those they supported.

05 February 2009 11:49

Greg L-W. said…

Bob Feel Martinis said in italics and I respond:

Just for the record I know how the letters were sent and which private provider sent them. I have spoken with them who confirm they send out letters from a data base provided to them.

I’m sure that was no secret and so what? The data base was NOT the party data base and they did not use my original one or my current one.

So GLW clearly more lies from you.

You are very glib with your false accusations – was this your Police training! Perhaps substantiate the accusation or be man enough to appologise.

I bet EE loves to see you post on his blog. It really does his credibility a lot of good (Not)

Perhaps if you were not so ridiculously inaccurate and constantly abusive you might be taken seriously!

AS the coward GLW doesn’t allow anyone to dispute his lies on his blog,

That I have comments turned off on my Newsletter Blog at:
http://CaterPillarsAndButterflies.BLOGspot.com is NOT cowardice as you well know – I just don’t have time to address the plethora of idiots who would use funny names to be abusive on there and I provide my eMail on my BLOG and respond to intelligent postings on a public basis.

Unlike you who selectively censor comment on your YouTube site dishonestly & cowardly!

and given EE gives him a voice here I thought I would ask which Swindon he was referring to in this post:

Clearly in normal parlance Swindon is the scroffulous little town just North of Marlborough on the M4 corridor.

In the … (CUT for Brevity) …sible!.

There is after all several Swindons, one in Gloucestershire,
one in Staffordshire, one in Northumberland and of course one in Wiltshire.

There are indeed:
Swindon Gloucestershire is a SUBURB of Cheltenham though with its own village hall!

Which Swindon comes to mind when Swindon is named on the National News?

So which one had the meeting,

Who said there had BEEN a meeting?

given th …SNIPPED FOR BREVITY …ruary.

So GLW please state which Swindon

I suggest that YOU go to Swindon Northumberland!

Or ask someone to explain to you, as all who are coming to Swindon plan on using their intelligence!

Just for the record the Swindon Wiltshire group are loyal to the leadership. They are of course concerned that the harm being done by Knapmans letter, but most are voting Yes (according to those who have expressed a view) to the amendments.

How sad to see that Swindon Branch have opted to support corruption, dishonesty and lies – a clearly unpatriotic set of values – possibly the influence of so many foreigners in Swindon!

The BFM then responded to JUNIUS:

And your an odious cowardly parasite who makes a living and then bite the hand that feeds you.

Did you mean bites? Have you any any provenance that those who post as JUNIUS bite the hand that FEEDS them in their patriotic efforts to expose the corruption in EUkip?

If not an appology would be apposite.

Nothing I have written here or anywhere else is a lie. Please highlight which post on here is a lie.

I think you will find JUNIUS is merely alluding to the general lack of rigour in your postings relative to fact, accuracy or the truth and your anti British support of EUkip and corruption.

Would it be a lie to say that Mr Edmond is party to a secret meeting to be held on Saturday, which is purported to be about the harmonisation of those in favour of with drawing from Europe, but apparently those that know have been told not to reveal it.

In your paranoia you couldn’t possibly mean the meeting in Swindon as advertised on my Blog at:
http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com/2009/01/246-uk-renewal-association-ltd.html
and of course in numerous other places copies of which have been supplied to almost all of the leadership and NEC of EUkip and specifically sent to Arnott, Harris, Alison and many others.

Are you surprised you were left out of the loop by your puppet masters?

Or that the organiser of this meeting is a former UKIP senior official, or that several speakers are UKIP PPC’s or MEP candidates. Would that be a lie, also.

Is this a question or a continuation of your paranoid fantasies?

No one has for a moment kept any of this secret – the agenda is readily available and therte will be an honest report afterwards unlike the drivel EUkip puts out on meetings or the fantasy represented by EUkip NEC meeting minutes!

You will note that it takes time to respond to idiots and to encourage them on my blog would be a gross waste of time – since my blog is merely to publish the truth and expose corruption in a patriotic manner to actively seek exit from the EU and to publish my opinions.

You have several Blogs I note.

Why not post your scurrilous accusation and paranoid anti British activities there.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
http://CaterpillarsAndButterflies.BLOGspot.com

05 February 2009 13:23

Eric Edmond said…
I do wish BobFM could make up his mind if I am in the BNP or Libertas I have only been in one party all my life that I know of but Bob obviously knows better than I do.

05 February 2009 14:03

Junius said…
The event is NOT by special invitation.

You are clearly to cowardly to attend the meeting and are desperate to provide an excuse not to go – just like Farage.

The agenda can be found on my blog http://www.juniusonukip.blogspot.com/ and on the British Democracy Forum.

05 February 2009 15:26

Greg L-W. said…

Hi,

JUNIUS is quite right there has been loads of info. and I started commenting on it in detail on my Blog on 24-Jan-2009 having known about the registration of the Limited Company back in November as I recall.

The BFM must have been so carried away with his ego centric obsession and ducking to avoid the truth that he clearly missed it.

It is clear that he would have nothing to offer this new organisation and he is obsessed with his unpatriotic cover up of corruption and support for the discreditted leadership of EUkip.

It is my opinion that the crass behaviour of discreditted supporters like Andreasen, McGough, The BFM, Croucher, Reeve, NuttAll, Zucherman, Bannerman, Titford, Smith and their ilk will be the downfall of Farage’s dwindling party and without the income from the scam he will soon leave!

Just so as many people as possible know about this meeting in Swindon that The BFM has not noticed (showing just how out of the loop he is and isolated) I have published even more details on my Blog.

One must be pleased that The BFM has brought it to the attention of the local media and I’m sure they will be made most welcome – I hope he has made it very clear he has absolutely nothing to do with the meeting as that might be something of a mill stone as many of his supporters are to the undeniably corrupt Farage.

To address some of the hapless BFM’s fantasies directly, which are from his comments above and are in italics:

Also we see on the Common man that Haslam has rather shot himself in the ‘holier than though’ foot.

Since the web site quoted posts annonimously and is utterly discreditted – few read it save its authors as they preen I would have thought.

It is discreditted as the authors do not believe in their own scurrilous fantasies to put their names to them.

To date every item mailed to me for clarification by honest people seeking provenance or comment would seem to be either a lie or a gross distortion of a snippet of fact – thus the site can be discounted as fundamentally dishonest and as EUkip’s hole gets deeper it would seem they dig harder to damage EUkip!

By all means read it to see just how fundamentally corrupt and unpleasant EUkip supporters are, when measured against the truth.

In December of last year, Mr Haslam invited a number of people to a meeting at a location in West Sussex.

I understand this is as ever a grain of truth distorted most dishonestly and libelously.

I am given to understand that Martin Hasslam who I know to be rather a politically naive but utterly decent sort – who has put a great deal of both his time and his money into UKIP to be most unpleasantly duped by the egregious filth that now runs EUkip.

I understand that not only was he ‘set up’ in a style not disimilar to the poor chap tucked up by our corrupt police for the Rachel Nickel murder, but it would seem to have been deliberate

I understand that Buster Motram a long term friend and associate of Farage’s was a primary speaker at the event, which I believe Martin Hasslam WAS INVITED TO – without knowledge of whom his host was inviting.

I understand Martin Hasslam had no prior knowledge that there were to be speakers, one of whom is a regular escort of Farage’s cousin. That Griffin of the BNP was to be present I do not believe Martin Hasslam had the vaguest clue about.

May I remind you that firstly it is I believe an offence under law to repeat a libel, or untruth with intent to damage an individual.

That said few are aware of just how revolting are the BNP and it would be a sad world that we may become like the EU where unwitting association would seem to be a crime.

It could be argued, much as Griffin and his revolting party disgust me, that he has done less harm to our Country than have Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, Jack Straw and their ilk – we note that the liar and cheat McGough – also associates with Farage and the communist Jack Straw who when in office as Home Secretary endeavoured to cover for his brother, in abuse of his office, who had been sexually abusing his 14 year old son and as a result of Jack Straw’s intervention went on to assault a minor and sexually harass the daughter of family friends – does that make McGough a pederast as well as a liar and a cheat?

I think not!

After the recriminations following Mr Haslams ejection from the NEC, those present were more than a little surprised to discover that the first speaker was one Buster Mottram. This was nothing compared to the stunned silence when the second speaker was introduced, for it was none other than one Mr N Griffin, BNP leader.

I believe you will agree even if this was true, which I do not believe it is – no crime has been committed.

I well recall being asked by Griffin if he could attend as a guest at a Training Weekend I was holding – I stated he was welcome as long as he respected the chairman and other guests present and the fact that I would personally renounce his party.

I had no fear of Griffin and was of the opinion that my factual knowledge would be a match for his jingo any day.

He stated the reason he wished to attend was to learn more about The EU so that his party could better address an exit strategy.

I would welcome debate with Griffin to expose the dishonesty of his party and the lack of principle of its foundations in evil and its unwillingness to announce its succour for ritual murder for entertainment.

The dishonest and the corrupt like yourself Bob Feel Martinis have endeavoured to link my name with the BNP as you have with many other lies and dishonesties you have been willing to promote.

It is also suggested that Edmond is to defect to Libertas. Rather an odd thing to do given that that party is about remaining in Europe.

I believe that you will find you are unable to substantiate this and as for my position regarding Declan Ganley’s duplicitous anti women’s rights, religious based Irish Party you will note my comments on:
http://LibertasUK.BLOGspot.com

All in all the pigeons are coming home to roost, it seems the party leadership was right to take the actions they have over the last few months.

Indeed the pidgeons do seem to be coming home to roost and they seem to be defecating all over your parade – a downside risk of being a useful idiot in support of self serving dishonesty and corruption.

TO FURTHER CLARIFY:
SO THAT THERE IS NO MISUNDERSTANDING

I have added further details that have come to light in green.

I am reliably assured that Martin Hasslam was invited to an event for past and present UKIP supporters, shortly before Christmas, by Andrew Moffat, the past PPC of Arundel & South Down in 2005 and, I believe, the past treasurer.

It being Christmas and in support of UKIP I gather, as a long standing and loyal supporter of UKIP, Martin Hasslam accepted and also invited John Wallace an Officer of EUkip.

Neither party was told that there would be a BNP presence.

I understand that Martin Hasslam agreed with John Wallace that he should inform Nigel Farage this had occurred which I believe he did via Steve Harris.

correction of detail:

It is surprising that Farage so regularly colludes in this sort of dishonest stitch up – particularly when one realises how often people have quoted his actual involvement with BNP members as being of some sinister nature and was not Farage’s Father a member or supporter of the National Front? I have looked in my army list and there is a Lt. Farage of the right age serving in the TA but I can find no further gazet for a promotion however I had thought Farage snr. tended to pretend to the rank of Major.

I do hope this assists to clear the mystery and show Bob Feal Martinis’ source to be utterly unreliable and malliciously duplicitous in their efforts on behalf of EUkip and Farage.

For further accompanying details CLICK HERE

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What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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