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A Good Interview & Some Facts on UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/02/2013

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A Good Interview given by Nikki Sinclaire & Some Facts on UKIP with the Eastleigh Fiasco in mind!!

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another excellent interview given by Nikki Sinclaire:
Yet again Nikki Sinclaire shows just what might have been achieved had UKIP stuck to its core message and represented Britain and the peoples of Britain rather than become utterly corrupted, dishonest and self serving as it clearly is – squabbling and utterly unprofessional in their scrabble to gain and keep places at the EU troughs on the gravy train as they clearly are.
It is obscene to watch the greed and self interest of UKIP whoare so busy stabbing eachother in the back and feathering their personal nests that they have no time for training and have thrown ethics and integrity to the dogs, where the leadership of UKIP are so crass and inept they employ scoundrels who praise them and seem not to have a single solitary ethical individual of any competence or gravitas – one need only note their desperate efforts at Eastleigh with a ‘selected’ candidate who has so obfuscated her bnackground as to be a cartoon character wthout knowledge of her subject or even the courage of her convictions to declare as a UKIP supporter in her council seat where she holds a seat in competition with UKIP!

We have heard race hatred, inaccuracy, forced apologies and ill considered posturing in plenty yet no clear statement of an intent to campaign to Leave-The-EU merely half baked declarations of clearly un costed so called promises.

Populist mantra after populist mantra which populist as it may be is is clearly undeliverable – claims that seem made in the certain knowledge UKIP will never be called to a position of any responsibility – a party which after 20 years has achieved so very little – consider:

NO MPs in Westminster.

NO members in the National Ass for Wales.

NO members in the Scottish Parliament.

NO members in the London Assembly.

NO elected mayors.

NO elected police chiefs.

No members in the Northern Irish Assembly.

Directly elected councillors don’t even run into three figures, out of many 1,000s.

More ex-members than current members.

A minuscule youth wing.

Lead by an MEP based in Brussels.

The only party to be reliant on the EU for financial survival.

A party without a single individual of gravitas and credibility on its leadership team.
A party that for every item of good publicity attracts 10 reporting on their corruption, in fighting & stupidity.
A party dedicated to supporting racism, religious bigotry, xenophobia, anti homosexuality, anti Judaism & its followers across The EU.

A party with contempt for its members and indifference to ethics, morality or democracy & even the British Justice system.
Little wonder that so many of its poorly selected and undemocratically placed leading members jump ship to other parties & none having seen how UKIP behaves – a party largely rejected by the British domestic electorate who have seen through their duplicity.

A party that is utterly dependent for such votes as it does get on being the dustbin into which people cast their protest vote where when you consider they have less than 30 individuals elected to ANY office of any note after 20 years and are dependent on the celebrity status of the rejects and failures of other parties for any one of note.

Little wonder they have been such a consistent failure when virtually no one votes for them in domestic elections but just gives them a vote rather than cast it for the main parties! This at a time where even though UKIP has lost sighof the core aim of its grass roots supporters that of Leave-The-EU never has the message been so stron across the Country yet no one trusts UKIP and the popularity of the majority message does not reflect in votes for UKIP but rather in the very clear statement of opprobrium made by the majority of the electorate who don’t even turn out to vote!

Eastleigh will prove interesting when one considers that UKIP had almost no input to the huge percentage of votes with its Johnny come lately candidate and presence arriving in the constituency with a muddled message long after the postal vote was decided!

Such votes that UKIP do get will be votes against other parties rather than votes for UKIP, votes cast by Labour, LibDim & Tory voters unwilling to cast their vote for rivals of any consequence yet wishing to protest, all too often on ill informed populist grounds – Yes to be sure as a dustbin UKIP may do very well in this age of utter contempt for politicians as clearly no one of any integrity sees UKIP as politicians!
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Chris Pain Finds UKIP Squabbling Like Ferrets in a Sack!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/02/2013

Chris Pain Finds UKIP Squabbling Like Ferrets in a Sack!
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New NEC Member Chris Pain Finds UKIP Members & Supporters Squabbling Like Ferrets in a Sack!

So what is new I guess!

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    Seth Starkadder :
    Actually, you are reading plain English.
    Events that have so tragically shaped UKIP these last few years when a 29,500 membership in autumn 2004 should have been increased by many times, and we see a one year police investigation ongoing ( resources for which have to be justified, and the C.P.S. – or even in this case perhaps the Attourney General’s office, – convinced of a case with admissable evidence ) matters as discussed above do in fact impact.

    We have seen ‘Junius’ publish cartoons of Mr Clark MEP, including wareing his bedroom slippers whilst simultaneously correspondence backs up that which appears online.
    That is, derogeratory statements designed to undermine an original member who like myself and others similarly denegrated, started the party in the country from our own resources.

    When one reads about Mr Clark “…..his reputation for falling asleep……. time to hang up the slippers ! D.C…….. he has to go home for Horlicks and bed regardless………. “

    then he informs the world

    “….. some great mileage here for Junius………

    just a few bits to be put to print ! “

    Note the sneering !exclamation mark.

    He clearly states ” I will be happy to send on info to you in the future……..”

    Then why does he not publish the ‘info’ that explains why we lost so many decent volunteer members, the sources of the three £ 500 cheques, their onward transfer, into which accounts, the correspondence requesting back our hard earned money, and who exactly are the ‘Junius’ team who rather like Lord Rennard; are rather adept at getting their candidate elected.

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    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
    Recalling our General Election ’round-up’ meeting which is invoked by the above I recall the Regional Organiser explaining to the the East Midlands committe how a candidate had particularly upset many volunteer members.
    He clearly indicated that a certain candidate would not be encouraged in his blatent and transparent intentions.
    I recall resignations due to behavoir not previously associated with those of us who started the branches and regions.
    The figure of £ 1,500 comes to mind in three cheques of £ 500 each , and clear written verbal and committee approved requests for return of our money. The chairman too had been approached.
    Bank statements show the truth of the matter, cheque books too. Yes the evidence mentioned above is available.
    Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???The verbal ‘trashing’ of the long term treasurer ( 15 years )was a disgrace. His treatment alone should have merited action by a discliplinary committee.
    The immediate condemnation of all that had gone before without any evidence of experience, intellect in these matters, or actual ability to effect anything better , again an utter disgrace. We volunteers had effected the election of ten MEP’s by giving up our time and resources to achieve those in elected office who would assist our withdrawel from the E.U.Correspondence widely circulated indicates that the ‘Junius’ team now have in place a long supported protegee.
    Little wonder then that Mr Derek Clark MEP is lampooned in cartoon form upon the internet, by a fountain in Nottingham, shown in his slippers, derided as liking his Horlicks, and derogatory comments are published about him when clear written statements are passed around about the leadership being carefully kept in the dark about exactly what is happening .
    Monday being the likely NEC meeting day should be very interesting.Will there be a challenge for the leadership ?Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???

    Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
    Seth Starkadder :
    Actually, you are reading plain English.
    Events that have so tragically shaped UKIP these last few years when a 29,500 membership in autumn 2004 should have been increased by many times, and we see a one year police investigation ongoing ( resources for which have to be justified, and the C.P.S. – or even in this case perhaps the Attourney General’s office, – convinced of a case with admissable evidence ) matters as discussed above do in fact impact.We have seen ‘Junius’ publish cartoons of Mr Clark MEP, including wareing his bedroom slippers whilst simultaneously correspondence backs up that which appears online.
    That is, derogeratory statements designed to undermine an original member who like myself and others similarly denegrated, started the party in the country from our own resources.When one reads about Mr Clark “…..his reputation for falling asleep……. time to hang up the slippers ! D.C…….. he has to go home for Horlicks and bed regardless………. “then he informs the world

    “….. some great mileage here for Junius………

    just a few bits to be put to print ! “

    Note the sneering !exclamation mark.

    He clearly states ” I will be happy to send on info to you in the future……..”

    Then why does he not publish the ‘info’ that explains why we lost so many decent volunteer members, the sources of the three £ 500 cheques, their onward transfer, into which accounts, the correspondence requesting back our hard earned money, and who exactly are the ‘Junius’ team who rather like Lord Rennard; are rather adept at getting their candidate elected.

    29,500 membership?
    could you please say where you got this figure from?
    esp as you say 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pain View Post
    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?
    Here is the response of the underhand and cowardly FKEU – too ashamed of his lies, inuendo and behaviour to put his name to his cowardly carping:

    Intresting.
    Seems there are a nice group of people so desperate for UKIP to fail (as it seems they failed at being ukip themselves) they will spin lies to the sheep who lap them up as want to belive it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pain View Post
    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?
    Geoffrey Collier’s retort is:

    Chris Pain: While I do not know the identity of Tiquipaya, I am assured that it is not someone named Paula (whoever she is). From what you say evidence must exist as to her historic wrongdoings. Has she confessed to those? Is the R.O. to whom you refer, a Mr Ramsome who, for purposes of remuneration, denies being the RO and cites his occupation as that of Press Officer in EU ‘claims’ documentaion? The payments to you, I understand, relate to your candidacy in a parliamentary election, although I claim no first-hand knowledge as to the precise details. Apologise to the unfortunate Paula, keep rational, and start again.

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    Geoffrey, it’s quite ovbious that you know something about this slander and the person concerned! So let please put all the aleged info on here, re times, dates, people concerned and who posted this trash!!!!
    There is one problem I have never had any payements from the EMCC at all!
    I have not had a multiple of £500 cheques from the EMCC!
    I have not had a request by email, telephone or from the EMCC, because I have not had
    any money or had any funds period from the EMCC.
    Any one can contact any of the previous or the current EMCC members and my statement will be verified.This will then be confirmed as made up slander from someone that has a grudge against me personaly.
    So please can Tiquipa or yourself supply evidence of any kind re this issue, the answer is no because it does not exist. So please either put up or shut up and post a full appology on here!
    My NEC election result was exceptional, because other regions have got far more members than the East Mids, but this is just green eyed trouble making. After working hard in the party as an activist for eight years, organising two UKIP conferences, plus some decent results at GE’s by UKIP standards whilst repersenting the members, has gained their support. Then again it’s the MEP silly season soon and people will be crawling out from under their stones again, inorder to try to climb up the slimy pole.
    Junius in the past have both supported me and critised me, but there are several people whom I am aware have not voted for me because of the Junius recomendation, so it’s a two edged sword.
    So please Geoffrey please oblige with the information that I have requested above.

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    DELETED AS A DUPLICATE OF THE POST ABOVE!

I have a pretty clear understanding that the unfortunate Ian Gillman is unlikely to publish his evidence, probably using some ‘secret squirrel’ dellusion, and I know for certain he hasn’t a clue about Junius nor one shred of evidence that Chris Pain has ever spoken to or even knows Junius – though he may well speak to someone who supplies me with facts, as does Ian Gillman from time to time.Let us also be very clear that Derek Clark is a liar, untrustworthy, corrupt and self serving who has boasted openly of the amount of money he has defrauded the public purse of, and he was found guilty of defrauding the public purse of over £30,000 and ordered to repay the money he had perloined by OLAF – A similar amount of money as that which one of the other UKIP MEPs, Tom Wise, stole and for which Tom Wise was sentenced to 2 years in prison.I am morally certain that Chris Pain has never wittingly spoken to Junius and thus has never supplied Junius with material to publish. Regular readers will be aware that I personally NEVER confirm or deny who supplies me with the facts which I publish.

And then after an effort to censor the squabbling accusations and bickering broke out again (well it is UKIP! They fight like ferrets in a sack amongst the foot soldiers, just as their leadership does for lack of competence or ability) – note the time line:

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    Ian Gillman surely has proof of all he claims. I wonder why he declines to share the proof with the world. He could afford to lose a £500 deposit in Corby so the cost of a scanner cannot be beyond him.

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    Persons are taking to the telephone in some excitement now as a recently elected NEC member with great plans for his own reforms , a Chris Pain has so much to say.

    The word from many is that Chris P. in his G.E. campaign in Louth, Lincs. obtained £ 500 from the EMCC .
    Then he claimed that the money had not been paid to his campaign and he put a lot of pressure upon the officers to send another cheque. He said that the cheque had not arrived.

    Reluctantly, his campaign was sent another cheque for £ 500 on the clear understanding that if the first cheque turned up it was to be returned to the committee.

    Incredibly, both cheques were banked. A dishonest demand for the second cheque had been made and despite his assurances that only one cheque would be banked, both were.

    The EMCC, short of money and relying upon volunteers with many years standing of generousity were told about these matters. Chris P. was told in several telephone conversations to return the money, he failed to do so.
    Written requests were made for the return of the money, Chris P. ignored those requests.

    The EMCC , following the G.E. met and the R.O. Don Ransome made quite a speech about matters in Louth, and Chris P. in particular. He left an impression that Pain would not be encouraged any further in his membership of UKIP.Members felt let down and cheated.

    The MEP for the region Derek Clark experienced nasty e-mails circulated by Chris P. about him and he became aware of a steady yet ongoing campaign to destabalise him from his position. This, oddly whilst always boosting Pain’s position.

    I did hear that the party chairman was approached by Chris Pain for money too, but unsure of the amounts requested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiquipaya View Post
    Incredibly, both cheques were banked. A dishonest demand for the second cheque had been made and despite his assurances that only one cheque would be banked, both were.
    … Chris P. was told in several telephone conversations to return the money, he failed to do so.
    Written requests were made for the return of the money, Chris P. ignored those requests.

    Then the cowardly ‘Independent UKIP’ as ever ashamed to put his name to his sneering, defamations, inuendo and outright lies said:

    This was surely reported to the Police in 2005. What was the outcome of their investigation, as for some reason you’ve not made reference to that. Thanks.

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Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
This was surely reported to the Police in 2005. What was the outcome of their investigation, as for some reason you’ve not made reference to that. Thanks.
To which Geoffrey Collier made the reply:

Independent UKIP: I made the accurate statement that Chris Pain was wrong to attribute to a Paula? the authorship of that posting. Who the lady is, or what reprehensible things which she did in the past, has no bearing whatever on the issue being discussed. She was certainly not the individual who posted that information. Mr Pain appears to have been voted on to the NEC to help to control the Party, while he clearly has difficulties in controlling himself. Why are the Forum rules applied so unevenly? An NEC member, for example, by the name of Mr Mcgough frequently makes accusations of certain individuals being in the ‘pay’ of others without required to produce evidence. Perhaps with the advantage of reflection, Mr Pain may recall his parliamentary election, and be willing to agree that his local branch did make a financial contribution to him. Is the gentleman saying that no such payment was made, and no banking evidence as a consequence can be produced? Was he both the candidate and sole financier of his campaign?

One can only speculate that Mick McGough’s lies, slanders and defamatory claims are permitted to remain because being known to all as a low life a liar and a cheat it is felt that the more he says the more he damages his own credibility as it is clear that his fellow travellers such as Independent UKIP, FKEU, SDP and their ilk are clearly damaging the credibility of UKIP – hard as that is to do since UKIP are now little more than the only available dustbin, wherein protesters against the two Political Parties in Britain and the LibDims can post their votes with virtually no fear of any long term consequence, as shown by the likes of those quoted above who ensure that UKIP will never achieve anything in domestic politics beyond the cult of the one man band.For more factual details regarding Chris Pain and these matters you may care to CLICK HERE

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UKIP Local Co-Ordinator falls foul of Attorney General

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UKIP Local Co-Ordinator falls foul of Attorney General
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UKIP Local Co-Ordinator falls foul of Attorney General’s John Venables, edict from The Bulger slaughter!

Again a failure of professional management from this self enriching clique of xenophobic, racist, anti homosexual supporting UKIP leadership!

UKIP’s leadership again & again display a lack of professionalism, incompetent staff & candidate choices and overt determination to avoid training or simple general management – UKIP are clearly unfit for purpose!

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why is anyone surprised at yet another act of criminality from a front line UKIPper?

The number of UKIP MEPs found guilty of fraudulent abuse of public funds and ordered to repay money is notable with front runner so far: Tom Wise sent to prison for 2 years, having been aided by Lindsay Jenkins his staffer who was also charged though action was dropped against her when Tom Wise changed his plea to ‘Guilty’ well into the trial process realising he was ‘Banged to rights’.

Abuse of supporters is also a norm for UKIP if they dare to question the stupidity and ineptitude of the leadership, criminal spamming, lies, fantasies and dishonest defamation goes right to the top in defence of their self enriching status on the gravy train, with an out of control claque of cowardly fools unchallenged by the leadership squabbling & posturing for richly rewarded prefferment.

Here is yet another example of irresponsible criminality from a UKIP front runner, that was flagged to me by one of many UKIP supporters who want to see UKIP cleaned-up to make it fit for purpose and represent the decent, patriotic grass roots voters who want to see Britain Leave-The-EU:

UKIPs Maggie Chapman in Venables panic

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It is always very well mouthing off on the internet about breaking the law and stating that ‘you will see them in court’ but when it catches up with you it is rather a different story.

This happened to UKIP Berwick upon Tweed co-ordinator and fan of the Scottish Defence League, Maggie Chapman when she found out that the Attorney General’s office are prosecuting anyone who posted pictures of John Venables.

Chapman came up with the ingenious defence that she was hacked, a defence which is often used by the English Defence League, a defence that does not work, which lands Chapman in Derek Fender Corner for committing a criminal act.

Here is the original posts and the Internet bravado.

The reason we oppose far right extremists clambering over themselves to post these pictures is for this reason.

 Further reading

Gandy and Chapman in UKIP “Fake Patriots” Storm – EDL News

Maggie Chapman – The Berwick UKIP Racist

UKIP Berwick – Maggie Chapman and Nazis

UKIPs Maggie Chapman in Venables panic

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 0 #1 Ron 2013-02-25 22:29

That’s all they are, the modern day Lynch Mobs, they just need the torches and pitchforks.

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Chris Paine now on UKIP NEC but for how long!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/02/2013

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Chris Paine now on UKIP NEC but for how long!

Repeatedly UKIP has seen the very few honest individuals who get on The NEC dishonestly ousted be that Dr. David Abbott, Richard Suchorzewski, Dr. Eric Edmond and others!

All to maintain the cover on areas of corruption of Farage’s UKIP!

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I was interested to note the strange comments on Anthony Butcher’s squalid little forum regarding the placement of individuals on UKIP’s NEC, clearly based on long term experience of UKIP selections and internal elections, the result can not be trusted to have been fairly rigged, and in fact the whole farrago was called into question due to the inept manner in which the rigging seemed to be taking place – hence the re-run!

Consider first the comments on the corrupt and managed Butcher Forum where lies and defamatory slander is something of a norm and every low life suppoerter of UKIP defames anyone with a reasoned alternative view yet few if any have the integrity to put their names to their idiotic comments as they shelter in cowardly and unconvincing anonymity behind their childish fake names!

The comments I noted were:

Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman:
We know that ‘Junius’ has consistantly supported one candidate.

No doubt ‘Junius’ and Mr Watkins will now require the quid-pro-quo for that support.

A rather silly fantasy though I gather Team Junius did indeed support Chris Paine.
It would be interesting to know ( to flatter the rather sad, untrustworthy and pedantic lad) what so called ‘quid pro quo’ it is that he fantasises of, particularly since he will note I never supported Paine as a candidate, all be it he was a cut above the others in terms of long term loyalty to UKIP having first risen to prominence in Boston some years ago as a supporter of one of UKIP’s most successful ever PPCs.
Quote Originally Posted by the cowardly Tiquipaya:

I fail to comprehend how Junius and a certain GLW can support Chris Paine his integrity has been questionable at past UKIP East Midlands meetings. Failure to repay £500 pounds as requested by the then treasurer and also a request from the EM committee were ignored by this gentleman. He claimed the cheque had been lost in the post and requested a duplicate the committee obliged only to find that both cheques had been presented for payment, therefore a request for repayment of £500 was made on repeated occasions via email, telephone and verbally without success. This money was earmarked for the Corby constituency, the greed of Chris Paine denied the hardworking members of the said constituency money that had already been allocated to them via the EM committee. Is this the calibre of person that UKIP wants to serve on its NEC? A person that is active for self advancement only.

One can not be surprised that this cowardly individual ‘fails to comprehend’ when he has in fact failed to even notice I had not supported Paine to any degree on my blogs – and you will note my comments at CLICK HERE
In fact I fail to see how this cowardly little man can see my publication of Paine’s letter of 30-Apr-2012 denouncing the behaviour of Derek Clarke’s puppet Regional Committee can be seen as helping Paine when one realises the leadership clique and its claque of cowards and fools have such an antipathy for honesty.
To deal with the claims made by the cowardly poster there would be far more – even some – credibility were he to put his name to his story!

I can see that such a situation might pertain in a committee managed by a drunken taxi driver and an MEP who has openly, frequently and repetitively lied to voters, members and the committee he gathered around him, about his own criminality and fraud yet was all too happy to boast at a public meeting in Derbyshire of how he defrtauded The EU on a regular basis.

You will note the money of which he boasted would not seem to reflect in donations to the party beyond ‘investment’ in getting himself back on the gravy train!

Perhaps it is the utter lack of integrity and habitual dishonesty of Derek Clarke that gave rise tyo the claims made by Anthony Butcher’s cowardly poster and his defamatory statements, which I for one will take with a pinch of salt until he is man enough to put his name to what can otherwise be treated as merely a defamatory smear.

That I have made little mention of the placement of Farage’s support team is hardly surprising as without exception they are unmemorable other than the odious and corrupt Mick McGough who no one of any integrity or self respe3ct would wish to have dealings with.

Perhaps the thoughts of The Junius Team might help clarify the situation:

Sunday, 24 February 2013

Congratulations to Chris Pain!

 

We would like to congratulate Chris Pain on his election to the NEC. At last, the NEC will have an independent voice! And we would like to thank all our readers who followed our advice to vote for Mr Pain.

We note that Wolfman McGough was re-elected. He now has another term in which to kiss the Fuhrer’s backside. He will enjoy that. It proves that you don’t have to have brains or talent to get ahead in UKIP. You only need the willingness to prostitute yourself for Nigel.

The Wolfman gets ready to enjoy another term as Nigel’s a*se licker
 
The other winning candidates are non-entities with little talent or brains – ideal members of the Farage Sycophants Club.
 
Alan Bown (2,678)

Piers Wauchope (2,331)

Sebastian Fairweather (2,293)

Posted by at 14:57

Just for the record may I add my congratulations to Chris Paine for having been placed top in ‘The Process’ – no mean achievement for someone who is regularly quizzed and accused of supplying information to Team Junius – as ever without a shred of evidence on the part of the corrupt leadership of UKIP and its vile claque of cowards and fools.

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Farage’s Plant in Eastleigh of Greater Significance!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/02/2013

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with Marta Andreasen now departed, to join the Tories who totally rejected her as a candidate when first she tried to wheedle her way into a seat in The EU, and aware of just how crass are Nigel Farage’s abilities in man management and selection I felt a few more details might be apposite on Mrs. Diane Martine James.
JAMES, Diane Martine 02
Let me first thank a couple of friends, who assisted me, individuals who, like me, support the primary aims of UKIP and desperately wish the party could be cleaned-up and rid of the self seeking dross that has hijacked the leadership positions and the odious claque they sponsor to keep themselves on the gravy train.

I found companies associated with Diane Martine James (DMJ1) here:
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/906262574

and (DMJ2) here:
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/915838123

and with Diane Martine James Forrest here (whether an assumed name for convenience or a tacit nod to a marriage she seeks to hide, as John Richard Forrest is, amongst other things, an adviser and presumably lobbyist assisting The EU!)

http://www.cdrex.com/diane-martine-james-forrest/1455316.html

I noted at DMJ1 that her co-directors of Hamgain were Edwin James (b.1928) and Sandra S Cheesman (b.1962), who I assume to be her father and sister.
Edwin’s address was in Chatham which, if the family home, fits with UKIP’s notes that Diane was brought up in Kent;   Sandra appears here:
http://www.192.com/atoz/people/cheesman/sandra/po18/2593831634/

sharing her address in Chidham with a David Roger Cheesman in 2002,

and as Sandra S James from 2003. (?Divorced?)

She also turns up on Chidham & Hambrook parish council!

I found companies associated with John Richard Forrest (JRF1) here:
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/900734577

and here (JRF2):
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/913360321

and here (JRF3):
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/913360321

and also here (JRF4):
https://www.duedil.com/director/916443772/john-richard-forrest

though at first I wasn’t sure they were all the same person, it does seem they are.

John Richard Forrest’s biography can be found at:
http://www.gleesonexecutive.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=138&Itemid=535

this links all three lists, with NTL, Virgin Media, 3i and Blue Wave from (JRF1),
Zinwave from (JRF2)
and European Microelectronics Academy and Narec Capital from (JRF3).

It also gives the interesting piece of information about him advising the European Commission on technology initiatives!

One almost loses the will to live trying to untangle his different addresses as it is hard to tell whether those I found were private or company addresses.

One that is interesting is here:
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/257037/john-forrest

Balmer Lawn Road, Brockenhurst, is also the address of his co-director Jane Patricia Forrest at Forrest Farm Enterprises (JRF1) and Egan International (JRF2).

There was also an Alexander I Forrest living there in about 2002-3.

Could Jane Patricia Forrest be a now cast off wife and Alexander a son?

At all events it would seem he currently co-habits with Diane. A recent marriage is more than possible and aware of her age and political aspirations Diane opted to retain her maiden name.

There was a planning application in 2005 from Mr & Mrs J Forrest at Abingerwood, whether prior to her relationship with John Forrest or utilising either her new married name or an assumed name and style (Perfectly legal to use ANY name one may choose as long as there is no intention to defraud – I should know as I added a hyphen to my name whilst still at school and have used my name with a hyphen ever since).

Here is that planning application:
http://waverweb.waverley.gov.uk/live/wbc/pwl.nsf/(RefNoLU)/WA20052266?OpenDocument

JAMES, Diane Martine 01

Probably none of this matters very much. The silly part is if I could only have found some basic checkable information I would very soon have lost interest in her, but it tends to bugs me that none of the details released by UKIP quite fit.

UKIP’s track record of inventing CVs and backgrounds of its ‘chosen’ plants is near consistently dishonest, which leads one to doubt as one knows as a fact UKIP can not be trusted to tell the truth.

There are no names of the “succession of major pharmaceutical companies” it is claimed she worked for, the “healthcare agency” business she established, what she was doing in Boston, or the “independent consulting business” she founded.

Googling the Scottish healthcare conference her company launched, NHS Masterclass, and HFMA and I found no reference to her at all! Which in the light of the lies Nigel Farage told us and aided David Bannerman and also Marta QAndreasen to promote gives rise to reasonable suspicions I am sure any honest individual would agree!

Only in connection with ProVen VCT does one come across this:
http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Directors-and-dealings?s=PHV:LSE

You will note: “Ms. Diane James is Non-Executive Independent Director of ProVen Health VCT Plc.
She is an independent adviser to a number of healthcare organisations involving healthcare innovation in the Uk and Europe.
She was formerly the chair of the Surrey & Sussex CLRN (Comprehensive Local Research Network), part of the National Institute for Health Research which was established by the UK Department of Health in 2006, to support clinical innovation research in the UK.
She has a wide range of healthcare experience at senior management level in both the public and private sectors and has founded, developed and divested a specialist healthcare communications business.”

CAVEAT: This MAY be another Diane James as there is reference of an American born Diane James who has 30 years experience in Health Care – perhaps, as so often happens in UKip Diane James has confused herself with someone else (many will remember the pack of lies provided in the CV of David Bannerman!)

also note references on pages pages 12 and 28 at:
http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Directors-and-dealings?s=PHV:LS

Even her education is puzzling, details proving elusive.
She is supposed to have attended Thames Valley University, but it only became a university in 1992 when she was 33 and had supposedly was establishing her own businesses. Did she manage to fit in a part-time degree there as well, or did she in fact do a course at what was then the Thames Valley College of Higher Education when she was 18 or so?

I don’t know nor especially care, but it’s typical of her that even over this there’s a question mark.

I freely admit there is a tendency not to give her the benefit of the doubt in the light of the regular dishonesty of UKIP over Nigel Farage’s chosen ‘plants’.

Her twitter thingy is at https://twitter.com/DianeUKIP
Clearly a construct for her new ambitions with UKIP, as you will note she remains an Independent in her actual political achievements, choosing NOT to represent UKIP or give her name to supporting UKIP

Finally, Farage tweeted on Feb 15, “I was at the Eastleigh campaign base before Brux today. Always travelling”.  I’d already seen at

http://nigelfaragemep.co.uk/pages/posts/nigel-farage-in-eastleigh-to-help-launch-by-election-campaign-236.php

his excuse for not standing at Eastleigh himself was:
‘The reason is simple: I am leading this party into the local elections in England and then the European elections and thirdly, it’s quite busy in Brussels and I need to be there”.

Though I believe it was a sensible decision, in that for Farage to fail yet again, in a high profile by-election would serve him ill – even were it good for UKIP, which I do not believe his presence to be save amongst the chavery of the pub class who are increasingly being reduced in numbers.

Farage’s much publicised excuses bear clower inspection in the light of UKIP’s general dishonesty!

Well, the locals are not for another nine weeks after Eastleigh, and the Euros for over a year, so a look at the EP’s calendar seemed apposite:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/pdf/general/cal2013.pdf

to see what pressing matters were tying him up over there.

The first week of the Eastleigh campaign was MEPs’ constituency week when he shouldn’t have been in Brussels at all, and weeks 2 and 3 are committee weeks which don’t involve Farage as he’s not on any committees! His most recent resignation being from The Fisheries Committee after his embarrassing failure of leadership where UKIP failed to vote on The CFP in the Parliament and it was made public that he had failed to attend the committee for a considerable time!

The only day on which he would have scheduled meetings would be the day before polling, when there are group and Conference of Presidents meetings, involving his milch cow the racist, anti homosexual, xenophobic, anti Jewish supporting EFD Group he has dragged UKIP into the gutter of EU politics to support!

So what else is he so busy doing in Brussels?

We are obviously not meant to ask!
Interesting that Marta has now gone. Looks like I was right in my predictions and the prediction that Diane James was Nigel Farage’s new plant for the job as an MEP – well I guess UKIP must face facts that there is no point in a candidate who might outshine Farage as he would soon destroy them.

The other sad fact is there is absolutely no one of any visible merit who could step up to the plate in UKIP South East, so how ever foolish Farage’s manouvering is as leader, as his track record has shown again and again he uses and abuses people for his personal gain and all too often his judgement in personnel selection is at best crass!

For more details on Farage’s latest plant Diane Martine James, or might that be Diane Martine Forrest and a deliberate obfuscation of identity CLICK HERE

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Marta Andreasen MEP Quits Farage’s UKIP & EFD

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/02/2013

Marta Andreasen MEP Quits Farage’s UKIP & EFD
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Marta Andreasen MEP Quits Nigel Farage’s UKIP & their racist, xenophobic, anti Jewish, anti homosexual EFD Pan EU Political Group!!

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Let us not forget that Marta Andreasen was the protege of Niogel Farage, Malcolm Lord Pearson & Huw Williams – 3 utter fools in any political terms, without a shred of leadership skills, competent judgement or reliability let alone loyalty to others between them.

Marta Andreasen was foist on the UKIP members as something of a ‘Bill of Goods’ her status was lied about and her achievements and CV were equally corrupt. Likewise the manner of the dishonesty of her ‘placement‘ by Farage as she stood in more than one Region so as to ensure her appointment and her identity as a resident of these United Kingdoms eligible for election based on a pack of lies from UKIP’s leadership scoundrels.

For more details CLICK HERE

For more factual details of Marta Andreasen CLICK HERE

For details regarding the Court case findings against Marta Andreasen showing her dishonesty CLICK HERE

22 February 2013 Last updated at 22:52

UKIP MEP Marta Andreasen defects to Conservatives

UKIP leader Nigel Farage and MEP Marta Andreasen Relations between UKIP leader Nigel Farage and MEP Marta Andreasen had become strained.

A senior member of the UK Independence Party has said she is leaving the party to join the Conservatives.

Marta Andreasen, a South East region MEP, sent her resignation letter to UKIP leader Nigel Farage on Friday.

It comes two weeks after she accused the UKIP leader of bullying and being “anti-women” and “a Stalinist” and threatened to leave the party.

In response, Mr Farage said the Tories “deserve what is coming to them” and added: “The woman is impossible.”

Marta Andreasen, 58, said resigning from UKIP to join the Conservatives was not a decision that she took lightly.

In an open letter expressing her dissatisfaction with UKIP, she accused Mr Farage of treating any views other than his own with contempt.

Ms Andreasen said she did not believe the party could offer “real leadership”.

Continue reading the main story

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The woman is impossible”

Nigel Farage UKIP leader

She said Mr Farage surrounded himself with “an old boys club of like-minded sycophants”, whereas Conservative leader David Cameron had shown “he can listen, adapt and do what is right for the country, not just for personal gain”.

The MEP said the prime minster’s speech on Britain’s relationship with the EU last month had convinced her the Conservatives were the “true referendum party”.

Conservative Party Chairman Grant Shapps said he was “delighted” to welcome her to his party.

“She brings a wealth of experience – and a dedication to fight for what’s best for the British people in Europe,” he said.

Meanwhile, in a statement issued on Friday, the UKIP leader said: “Having left the OECD, the European Commission and UKIP in unpleasant circumstances, the Conservative Party deserve what is coming to them.

“The woman is impossible.”

Sole femaleRelations between Ms Andreasen and Mr Farage had been strained for some time, with Ms Andreasen calling for Mr Farage to quit after the party’s poor performance in council elections in 2011.

Since then, UKIP’s fortunes have improved and it recorded its best performance in a parliamentary by-election in Rotherham in December.

Ms Andreasen, who is Spanish but was born in Argentina, worked as an auditor and financial director for various companies before working as an accountant for the European Commission in 2002.

She later joined UKIP and was elected in 2009. She currently sits on six committees in the European Parliament.

Ms Andreasen had been UKIP’s sole remaining female MEP, after Nikki Sinclaire was expelled from the party in 2010.

Ms Sinclaire later brought a sexual discrimination case against the party which was subsequently dropped.

At the time, UKIP issued a statement affirming its “opposition to discrimination on all grounds as prescribed by law and otherwise” and stressed that sexuality was “no bar to involvement or advancement” within the party.

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The Tories may well make show of welcoming Marta Andreasen, par5ticularly at such a propitious time, as an endorsement of David Campbell’s duplicitous fudged promise of a referendum on The EU and his pretence that he can renegotiate the terms of Britain’s entrapment in The EU scam – the date of the betrayal of UKIP by Marta Andreasen is also of value in exposing the irrelevance of UKIP in the Eastleigh by election.

I believe the Tories will live to regret their involvement with this duplicitous foreigner just as they do with regard to the previous betrayal of UKIP by the dishonest and duplicitous scoundrel David Bannerman.

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UKIP NEC Results Seemingly A Pack of Lies!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/02/2013

UKIP NEC Results Seemingly A Pack of Lies!
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UKIP NEC Results Seemingly A Pack of Lies!

Again and again UKIP manages the most inept and unprofessional placement of their clique and the muppets in their claque ever hoping for preferment keep quiet and abuse anyone who dares point out the incompetence!

Little wonder the British domestic electorate do not trust, vote for or support UKIP except as a dustbin for the protest voters!

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this statement by UKIP on its official web site at CLICK HERE is quite clearly inaccurate:

NEC election results

Friday, 22nd February 2013

The following results were today announced in the delayed 2012 UKIP National Executive Committee elections:

From a turnout of 32.4% those elected to the five vacant NEC positions were:

Chris Pain  (2,849 votes)

Mick McGough (2,696)

Alan Bown  (2,678)

Piers Wauchope  (2,331)

Sebastian Fairweather  (2,293)

You can see the full NEC here.

These 5 candidates attracted a total of 12,847 votes – have taken no interest in the process as UKIP selections and so called elections are so consistently utterly dishonest and corrupted.

Here we go again!

IF only 5 candidates had been on the list for rigging and 12,847 votes were cast for them ecen that means with 32.4% of the party voting then the party claims to have just short of 40,000 members!

There were many more hopefulls who wanted to take a step forward on the gravy train whether that means the fudged figures were for a membership of 40,000 or hugely more is merely an indication of the corruption and incompetence of UKIP leadership and whatever happened to the endless promises of professionalising the party?
It is almost as much of a farce as the incompetence of the manner in which it is believed by many that the last leadership rigging was carried out or even more notable the farce of foisting The Farage Constitution on the party so that he could draw up the list of candidates to suit himself using his puppets on the NEC.
Clearly I was right to largely ignore the placement of NEC members as proven by the scam shown above.
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Charged to betray UKIP David Bannerman responds

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/02/2013

Charged to betray UKIP David Bannerman responds

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Charged with the task to betray UKIP David Bannerman responds responds with his typically limp style of underhand cowardice!

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Tories’ Black Belt Plan to Chop UKIP Vote

The Tories are definitely not worried about UKIP, that’s why they have asked one of their top MEPs to come up with a three point plan to beat them. David Campbell Bannerman, who was UKIP deputy leader before returning to the Tories, highlights the dangers in a “creative” briefing note seen by Guido:

“Judo teaches you to use the strength of an opponent against them. Applying this analogy to UKIP, we should acknowledge the one strength of UKIP: they seem to be in tune with the majority of the British population on the EU issue. Multiple polls show that over 54% of the public and two-thirds of Conservative Party supporters (You Gov Poll August 2011) want to leave the EU. They may appear to be more in tune with traditional Conservatives on other policies such as immigration, grammar schools or the environment”

Rather bizarrely, Campbell Bannerman goes on to tell Tory candidates to disrupt UKIP pub meetings: “let the pub landlord know that people attending these meetings must not be given any free food or drink as this is classified as treating”. That’ll make the difference in the Euros…

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To which I felt compelled to respond with a few indisputable facts as posting #51:

Hi,

David Bannerman is a self serving, dishonest liar & cheat – well suited to EU politics.

He is still under investigation by OLAF for fraudulent abuse of public funds, along with his fellow charlatan Stuart Agnew, also an MEP, who openly admitted defrauding the public purse on behalf of UKIP to fund staff & political activities.

Derek Clarke UKIP MEP was found guilty and ordered top repay over £30,000 he had perloined as with Tom Wise UKIP MEP who stole a similar sum, with help from sometime Tory Lindsay Jenkins, and he was sentenced to 2 years in prison.

David Bannerman’s route back to the gravy train is not that assured as he is so despised by the Tories for his duplicity & corruption the present MEPs in his region have opted to stand again to try to block his duplicitous greed.

The Tories’ only hope is he has one of his lame scripts adopted as he is on record as aiming to dump politics for Hollywood if he ever had the chance!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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“Farage’s politics lack credibility”

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“Farage’s politics lack credibility”!

A comment made in The Herald in Scotland & based on facts & track record how right they are!

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clearly having consistently failed in domestic politics in these United Kingdoms for some 20 years, with less than 30 people elected to any office of consequence in British politics, where some 19,500 seats are available by election – it ill becomes Nigel Farage to posture and preen in Scotland where during those 20 years UKIP have made virtually no progress:

Interview: meet Nigel Farage

 
Thursday 21 February 2013

UK Political Editor MICHAEL SETTLE meets the UKIP leader who’s never short of an opinion or two for an in-depth interview on Europe, immigration, and the independence referendum

 

It is an irony piled on top of another irony that Nigel Farage’s London office sits uncomfortably in Europe House, the headquarters of the European Commission which, in a previous guise, was the home to Conservative Central Office.

When I mention this, the UKIP leader points out that the Commission’s London postcode even has the letters EU in it. “I’m not kidding,” declares Mr Farage, his eyes rolling in disbelief.

Yet while he might be a political cuckoo in the EU nest, the ebullient politician appears to be sitting pretty.

Never in such media demand, UKIP’s fortunes – in England, at least – are on the rise. Opinion polls have put the anti-EU party as high as 16%, while in a raft of by-elections last year it came second or third, replacing the Liberal Democrats as many voters’ party of protest.

“Yeah, to have grown over the last couple of years in the opinion polls the way we have has been very gratifying but we have to prove that that’s material and not theoretic. That’s why the county elections (this year in England) are very important and the euro elections (next year across the UK) are crucial to the whole momentum thing.”

Yet while momentum has been building south of the border, UKIP has barely caused a ripple in the Scottish political pool.

At the last euro election in 2009, it came sixth behind the Greens and polled under 5% and in the 2011 Holyrood elections, when UKIP proposed scrapping MSPs and replacing them at Holyrood with Westminster MPs, it did even worse and got less than 1%.

“Yeah, I have said Scotland has been a graveyard for us and that’s because the entire national debate in Scotland has been a different debate and the word ‘independence’ has meant something entirely false and that’s why I’m so pleased it’s been exposed and we can now have a proper debate in Scotland about far bigger constitutional issues than the relationship between Holyrood and Westminster; far bigger than that is the relationship of both those institutions with Brussels and that’s all changed.

“What’s been very interesting over the last few months is that as UKIP has grown in the polls we’ve grown in Scotland too.”

Like many others perhaps, I missed this development and ask what evidence Mr Farage has for this.

“Look at the regional breakdowns; look at YouGov, Comres, Survation, look at all of them. They vary and they fluctuate but we’ve been as high as 9% of the vote in Scotland. Given where we came from two years ago, it’s a significant shift, a potential shift in support for UKIP in Scotland.

“I’m not pretending it’s easy. We’ve managed in Wales, we got 15% in Wales, very credible, almost in line with our national percentage. We’ve had some little bits of electoral success in Northern Ireland. Clearly, the north of England has developed into almost as much as a powerhouse than the south of England for UKIP.

“The idea that perhaps people might have had 10 years ago that this is a sort of home-counties-retired half-colonels-who-were-jolly-angry (party), clearly that’s changed already.

“The missing part of the jigsaw within the UK has been Scotland and that’s because the debate hasn’t allowed us in; there’s been a different conversation going on.”

He goes on: “I never, ever make rash or stupid predictions, I just don’t – maybe comment and statements – and we are going to do everything we can in 2014 in the European elections in Scotland to get a breakthrough and to get elected representation in Scottish politics.

“We have proved in England that even with a small bridgehead, if your position is a good intellectual position, that is clearly arguable and events prove you right, you can build from a small bridge head into something that is quite significant in politics. I would say for UKIP in Scotland the 2014 European elections are the absolutely key.”

The UKIP leader makes clear that if the party is to become any sort of political force in Scotland, then it has to succeed in the 2014 euro elections.

“So I’m putting it on the line. For UKIP Scotland, who have been a relatively small organisation and who have valiantly battled on, who in the last year and a bit have suddenly started to grow and attract some fresh talent, our campaign on wind farms and various things is suddenly bringing in new and different type people.

“But there has to be some realisable gain to keep any sense of momentum and any positivity within the party going forward; 2014 is the watershed for UKIP Scotland.”

Unlike most politicians, who pause and nuance their remarks, trying to avoid controversy at any price, Mr Farage shoots from the hip and seems to revel in his forthrightness, laughing his tobacco-flavoured croaky laugh many times throughout the interview.

Yet the only time he hesitates and goes quiet is when I ask if 2014 – when pundits believe UKIP will attract the largest number of votes – could be a moment when British politics is realigned.

“I’ve wondered and thought about this for years…It’s such a tough question to answer but I would just say this – some of the top line issues that are most closely and clearly associated with UKIP are of such enormous power as political issues across the political spectrum; the Thatcherite right will agree with them but very big sections of patriotic Old Labour feel the same on these questions too, that there is the possibility that we could do what the Reform Party of Canada did and do something dramatic and remarkable.”

So it could be a mould-breaking SDP moment?

“Oh no, they got Blair. Blair was the first SDP Prime Minister. In fact, they’re all bloody SDP. Cameron’s SDP. The SDP achieved a total victory without actually winning themselves. This can manifest itself in lots of ways. In the case of the Reform party in Canada, they became the biggest party in the Canadian Parliament. So this can manifest itself in all sorts of different ways.”

So is it possible UKIP could realign British politics?

“Again, as I said earlier, I don’t make wild and silly predictions but I do think there is something very powerful in our headline issues.”

One of which is immigration. The latest controversy that has flared up is about what might or might not happen from January 2014 – just four months before those euro elections – when the work restrictions on Bulgaria and Romania will be lifted.

The UK Government, having admitted to having its own estimate about a possible influx of migrants, then said it did not have one; the estimate in 2004 when Poland and other eastern European countries joined the EU turned out to be wildly inaccurate.

“They’re in a mess,” declares Mr Farage. “They’re really scared because for years it was easy: Europe was over there, that was for intellectuals like Bill Cash and the Oxford Union; and immigration was over there and an entirely separate issue. Now in the minds of the public, they’re coming together as one and the same and they’re absolutely terrified of it.

“Every estimate that has been put out over the last 10 years on this, be it by the British Government, be it by the Romanian embassy, be it by whoever you like, has always been wrong by a factor of five or by a factor of 10 or whatever it may be. They’re half hoping it will go away.”

The UKIP leader produces a piece of paper and insists the declaration at the weekend by Coalition ministers that they can get tough with EU migrants wishing to take advantage of Britain’s benefits system is pie in the sky.

“Cameron says any Romanian who comes and has appendicitis will die on the street and we’ll all stand around and laugh. Within five hours of him saying it, Viviane Reding, the relevant European Commissioner, comes back and says sorry these are treaty commitments and she’s right.”

He refers to the habitual residency test where a migrant has to prove he or she is a job seeker, a worker, a student, a self-employed person or a self-sufficient person to qualify for welfare.

“Apart from pensioners, no one is excluded. What will not happen is Romanian pensioners will not be able to come and get old age pensions, that’s clear. That’s the one group of Romanians who will find access to direct benefit more difficult but absolutely everbody else that I can see can pass habitual residence. It’s possible that they could under the law be made to wait three months. I completely concede it’s possible.

“But if you come in and say I’m self-employed and I’m going to go and apply to be a Big Issue seller, you are by definition a self-employed person seeking work and you qualify on day one and not just for unemployment benefit but for housing benefit as well.

“There’s nothing this mob can do about this because they have signed us up to be in a political union with countries who frankly…Bulgaria and Romania are not fit to be in a political union with us. I’m not stating that political point of view from arrogance or anything like that. I can fully accept we could be in a political union with France and Germany – I don’t want us to be – but I can see why in many ways that might be a valid proposition on the table but with these former Communist east European states, countries who have not recovered..”.

So talk of a crackdown by Iain Duncan Smith was just spin?

“The improbability of what’s being said…is laughable. He was trying to stop people voting UKIP in the Eastleigh by-election. They’re terrified. It’s the biggest issue on the doorstep. I tell you why. When the Government said up to 15,000 a year from eastern Europe (would come), there are more than that in Southampton, and Eastleigh is a suburb of that. People down there are seeing social housing, a chronic problem in Eastleigh, and unskilled labourers getting jobs, just a nightmare.”

Europe, of course, or rather getting Britain out of the EU, is UKIP’s raison d’etre. When I suggest David Cameron with his promise of an in-out referendum had shot his party’s fox, the Farage eyes bulge.

“If he wins the next election, no chance; following a renegotiation, not on offer; he will give us a referendum, heard it all before; cast iron Dave, why on earth would we believe him this time round and even if he means it, we have reached the point of ‘cry wolf’, nobody else believes him. The body language, the tone, everything about that speech dripped with insincerity from start to finish.”

But it was a success politically because the putative rebellion by Conservative MPs has fizzled away, I suggest.

“They’re tribal Tories, who gives a damn about them? Forget that building over there, let’s talk about the housing estate a mile down the road, what’s the impact been three weeks on? Zero.

“Far from shooting our fox what he has done inadvertently is to legitimise everything we have said for 20 years by putting it into the mainstream national debate; that there should be a conversation on in or out and, secondly, unwittingly and without wanting to he has let the genie out of the bottle.

“Rather like with the euro once we had a public debate on the euro public opinion swung against it. It was 50-50 in the 1990s, absolutely 50-50, people like me were thinking God almighty, they’re selling us easier holidays in Spain, and maybe they’re going to carry the day. But when we had the full debate after Blair, Heseltine and Clarke launched the Britain in Europe initiative, within 18 months we had a two-to-one majority against joining the euro and it’s never changed since.

“The same is true of the bigger broader European debate, the genie is now out of the bottle, this can’t be suppressed, there is going to be a debate on all four corners of the United Kingdom over the next year or two, or over the next five years, on this issue and that from my perspective is all to the good.”

So, I suggest, that must lead to the referendum Mr Farage believes Mr Cameron, despite his promise, will not deliver.

“If UKIP closed down tomorrow, there would be no referendum ever. We could be here in 100 years. His backbenchers pose no threat to him at all. There isn’t a single Tory backbencher who has said they would vote against their prime minister in a motion of confidence, not one. If we disappear, the referendum threat goes; if we stay, the referendum threat will be maintained. I very much believe that one of UKIP’s very important jobs is to make sure that Labour make the same promise too – and they will.”

Yet he acknowledges that the PM’s speech was necessary to stop Tory MPs joining UKIP. “Had he not made that speech there would have been defections; yes, of course.”

It is when I mention Europe in the context of the Scottish independence debate that I realise I have lit the blue touch paper. The development this week with Nicola Sturgeon insisting an independent Scotland would not need to sign a full accession treaty but simply amend the current one visibly ruffles the Farage forehead.

“There’s nothing she has said on television that has impressed me. Frankly, she appears to be grossly out of her depth in the position she is in. Just for once, I’m going to go with Mr Barroso and not Nicola Sturgeon.”

He continues: “At least Irish nationalism is a pure, honest form of nationalism. Scottish nationalism, which has been a fraud committed on the Scottish electorate for the last few decades, has finally been exposed as nothing more than what has now become its own political class, seeking to justify its own existence. There is complete intellectual and economic dishonesty in the SNP’s arguments and I frankly have got no time for them at all, or her.”

Mr Farage, who has previously acknowledged a sneaking respect for Alex Salmond – who has passed his ‘would I have a pint with this person’ test – says the First Minister played a good hand on independence “up until he was exposed”.

He explains: “For a couple of decades, he played the hand incredibly well. He sold a completely false argument to the Scots, that you could leave Westminster and be independent and, in a little after-breath, be part of the EU.

“Gradually as time has gone on, it has become clearer and clearer to people in Scotland that being in the EU is completely inconsistent with the concept of independence and what sealed it is the European Commission President making clear that if you left the UK you have to reapply and sign a treaty that commits you to joining the euro.

“So that’s what’s changed everything and frankly the sheer dishonesty, the twists and turns, and the hiding of the report and all the things the SNP have done, they’re doing themselves electorally huge damage.”

So where does this leave the SNP’s campaign for independence?

“It’s finished already. I don’t think the SNP proposal of Scottish independence as part of the EU flies, works, is logical; it’s done, it’s dead in the water. Far too many canny Scots have worked that out.

“If the SNP is able to reposition itself between now and the referendum, we can have this conversation again, but at the minute they appear to be in such a muddle and backtracking on everything, from the currency to the sovereign to…some idea this could be a treaty amendment, no, the irrationality of their position has been exposed.”

I ask if he will, given his forthright pro-UK views, be an asset to the No campaign? He replies he will not be part of it.

“That’s for Scottish UKIP to get involved in, it’s not for me to get involved in. If I’m asked to speak in a university debate, I probably would. Am I going to be touring round Scotland in a referendum campaign on Scottish independence? No. UKIP Scotland can do that. I don’t see that as my role particularly.”

Yet UKIP is regarded as the Nigel Farage Party?

“Look, I have given, in so many ways, maybe illogically, the best years of my adult life in trying to make this point of view and this political brand an accepted, mainstream, genuine part of national British political debate.

“I’ve no idea why I’ve done it. I can’t explain it. It didn’t fit into my life plan at all. I’ve just done it and I’ve probably got more drive, more energy and more belief than most people who walk through the front door.

“But I couldn’t have done it on my own. I couldn’t have done it without thousands of activists and lots of people…There is a team of people behind Nigel that help to make this work now and without whom it couldn’t have worked.”

A politician referring to themselves in the third person is always interesting but, given the party’s rising star, is he regretting not standing in Eastleigh?

“No. If Diane James does win, you boys will not go on saying we’re a one-man party; that’ll be ended. That blows a hole in that.

“It’s my stated aim that I intend to lead this party as an active candidate into the European elections in 2014 and I want to cause an earthquake. I can’t do that as a backbencher in the House of Commons.

“If we’re going to get the momentum for something remarkable to happen in 2015, it can’t happen without a big success in 2014 and right now at this moment in time, it could change, I’m the best qualified person in UKIP to lead that charge in 2014.”

Soon, UKIP will be moving out of Europe House and into spanking new offices off Bond Street; the party’s fortunes, it seems, are moving upmarket.

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Farage’s politics lack credibility

 
Friday 22 February 2013

I read, with a sense of incredulity, Nigel Farage’s seemingly scathing attack upon the Scottish Government and the independence referendum (“Farage: Independence dead in the water”, The Herald, February 21).

One may go as far as to assert that at times Mr Farage’s tone was a trifle arrogant. It is surely inconceivable for one to take any credence from what the man has said in the article, when he and his party currently have no seats in Westminster or Holyrood and the rise of Ukip remains to be seen. Undoubtedly, Mr Farage would justify his assertions by highlighting that recent opinion polls may have tended to illustrate a slight support for Ukip in some parts of England and a small proportion in Scotland, in light of the current Coalition and the contentious issue of membership of the European Union.

It is easy for Mr Farage to pour scorn upon the Scottish Government (indeed the UK Government for that matter) as the United Kingdom has, thus far, no experience of his Ukip party as a source of accountable authority.

It will be extremely captivating to observe if Mr Farage’s aspirations amount to what he desires regarding his share of the electorate (especially in Scotland) and how he would put that into practice over a raft of issues, other than the aforementioned issue of severing membership of the EU.

At this stage I don’t envisage anywhere near the sort of landslide victory the SNP enjoyed in the 2011 Holyrood election, or Labour enjoyed in the 1997 General Election, unless something goes drastically wrong with the four main parties in Scotland.

John G McMenemy,

Braeside Avenue,

Milngavie.

I welcome Nigel Farage’s intervention in the independence debate; with friends like him, the No campaign certainly needs no enemies. His remarks, especially about the Deputy First Minister, seem to be based on nothing more than ignorance and prejudice.

Are bluster and assertion really all that is on offer from the opponents of Scottish independence? Where is the much-trumpeted “positive case for the Union”?

The almost daily predictions of impending disaster that would follow a Yes vote from the mainstream UK parties are bad enough, with Mr Farage and Ukip, however, the dissembling and bombast are even more transparent.

If I were a showman I’d say, “Nice try, Nigel, but no coconut!”

David C Purdie,

12 Mayburn Vale,

Loanhead, Midlothian.

It was disappointing to note personal attacks on Nicola Sturgeon by Ukip’s Nigel Farage, a clear act of desperation that has lowered the tone of the independence debate.

Mr Farage’s optimism in putting up Ukip candidates at the next European and Parliamentary elections in Scotland is totally misplaced.

At every election he pledges this will mark a breakthrough for his party in Scotland, but it never transpires.

At the last European Parliamentary elections in 2009 Ukip came second in the UK, securing just under 17% of the vote and securing 13 MEPs.

In Scotland, however, it came behind the Greens in sixth place with just over 5% of the vote. At the last Scottish Parliamentary election in 2011 Ukip achieved less than 1% of the vote.

While this Little Englander party has had success south of the Border, where the majority want the UK to leave the EU, in Scotland this position is reversed with the majority wanting to remain within the largest single market in the world.

Ukip in England has forced Mr Cameron into an in-out referendum on UK membership of the EU, but its isolationist agenda has only ever seen it inhabit the fringes of Scottish politics, where it is destined to remain.

Alex Orr,

77 Leamington Terrace,

Edinburgh.

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Clearly some have swallowed Nigel Farage’s duplicitous claims as with Alex Orr above who believes Nigel Farage’s party had something to do with Cameron’s fudged and untrustworthy offer of a Referendum. Neither Nigel Farage nor his rump of a party with no elected individuals of any note, character or gravitas and out of a total of over 19,500 electable offices in UK Governance with less than 30 elected to any office of consequence after 20 years.

It may be of interest to those who have swallowed his propaganda that Nigel Farage had not even signed the UK wide petition in favour of a Referendum devised, organised, collected and delivered by Nikki Sinclaire’s Team that has delivered over 1/4 Million valid and verified signatures to Downing Street and Parliament at Westminster, that forced the debate in Parliament that gave rise to David Cameron’s second guarded promise of a Referendum.

I do concede that Nigel Farage and his clique and their vociferous claque did much to try to sabotage the efforts and assist The EU!

I am also happy to concede that in a shameful example of ‘Band Wagon Jumping’, so true to style, Nigel Farage grudgingly signed the petition AFTER the event!

May I also remind readers and researchers that under the aegis of Nigel Farage, David Lott & Mark Croucher over £1/4M was raised to mount a petition but no such petition was ever presented nor any mechanism set up for its presentation, nor was any accounting of the money raised ever presented and many are of the belief that Nigel; Farage, Davbid Lott & Mark Croucher stole the money for their own benefit!

Clearly, with his ambivalence, posturing and irrelevance in Scotland Nigel Farage and his party have done much to alienate Scottish voter, hence the risible results they have consistently had in Scotland (or for that matter in any area of UK Domestic politics!)

Per exempio:

Ukip warns Scots: ‘don’t expect British cash’

Tom Gordon
Scottish Political Editor
Sunday 23 December 2012

THE leader of the UK Independence Party (Ukip) has warned Alex Salmond he would be “naive in the extreme” to assume the rest of the UK would simply wave through a generous exit package for Scotland in the event of a Yes vote in 2014.

Nigel Farage MEP, whose fiery Euroscepticism has helped his party overtake the Liberal Democrats in recent polls, said the people of England, Wales and Northern Ireland would not want to hand over a “fat cheque” if Scotland chose to quit the UK.

He told the Sunday Herald he had no issue with Scotland deciding its own destiny, but that this was not the same as granting the First Minister’s every wish in negotiations with Westminster.

If there was a Yes vote, talks between Edinburgh and London – including those on how to divide the UK’s assets and the national debt – would start during the 2015 General Election campaign. If Ukip pushed for the rest of the UK to get the best deal possible for its citizens it would upset Salmond’s hopes of a smooth transition, and might mean David Cameron taking a similar hard line for fear of losing more Tory voters to Ukip.

Farage said: “It seems to me a remarkably naive approach for the SNP to think a post-independence rump government of the UK would just say ‘Tally ho chaps, here’s a big cheque’.

“It may be that people like Mr Cameron, Mr Miliband and Mr Clegg would like that to happen.

“But can you imagine the reaction from the English electorate? It would show yet again how out of touch they are in the political class.

“There would be an enormous political reaction, and not just in the Tory shires, but across the country. If they think gay marriage is an issue, it will pale into insignificance compared to that.

“While the political class might want to pat Alex Salmond on the back, there’s absolutely no way that the people of Wales, England and Northern Ireland would be happy with that – of course they wouldn’t.

“And to think that they might just ignore it is daft. It’s naive in the extreme.”

Although a Little Englander approach would finish Ukip in Scotland, no party with UK in its name was ever likely to be particularly active in Scotland after a Yes vote.

The SNP described Farage’s comments as “bizarre”.

A spokesman said: “Scotland already more than pays its own way, and on independence will inherit its share of the assets and liabilities of the UK.

“Ukip has repeatedly failed to make any impression in Scottish politics, which is no surprise given Mr Farage seems so out of touch.”

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Marine Le Pen’s alliance with UKIP & UKIP Lies

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/02/2013

Marine Le Pen’s alliance with UKIP & UKIP Lies
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Marine Le Pen tells The Cambridge Union of  alliance with UKIP & UKIP’s Nigel Farage Lies in an effort to deny the facts!!

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I’m in touch with UKIP, says far-right Marine Le Pen

Marine Le Pen polled 18% of the vote in last year’s French presidential elections Jane Stockdale/AFP/Getty Images
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French far-right leader Marine Le Pen claimed to be in “regular contact” with UKIP, she told The Times after speaking at the Cambridge Union yesterday.

Mrs Le Pen, an MEP and president of the right-wing Front National party in France, denied that her party felt an affinity with the British National Party and added: “I am in regular contact with UKIP. If I felt my options were closer to the BNP I would be in contact with the BNP, but I am in contact with UKIP.”

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Nigel Farage’s claim in an attepted defence was:

“I very much doubt she has met an official from UKIP in her life.”
One has to ask oneself if Nigel Farage is deliberately telling lies or is Nigel Farage so out of touch with his party and its executive that he forgets the involvement of Marine LePen with his personally appointed UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom, as quoted in the media and via Godfrey Bloom’s extremist pan EU group The Pan EU Alliance for Freedom
It does rather look as if yet again Nigel Farage and his party, when their extremism is exposed, merely ‘wings it’ with yet another off the cuff lie or policy invented on the spur of the moment!

It is sad that Britain’s once great hope of a EUroSceptic party has been so debased as to be rendered little more than an irritant of no meaningfull consequence  having catastrophically failed to make any meaningfull inroads in domestic politics with less than 30 elected offices out of the  some 19,500 available after 20 years and this includes their embarrassing and crass bevvy of ne’er do wells squabbling and posturing as MEPs in their vile racist, anti homosexual, anti Jewish, anti immigrant, anti Muslim extremist group The EFD, in the gutter of EU politics.
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