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Jasna Badzak – ‘Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage’

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/06/2014

Jasna Badzak – ‘Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage’
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Jasna Badzak – ‘Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage’ – May well cause the more gullible UKIP supporters some consternation as they realise UKIP is actually the ‘Farage’ cult & not a party!

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Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage Read:

Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage


Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage
Friendship in life and especially political life is a very strange concept. I know it is not alien to me because I, unlike you, still do have many friends, genuine friends across all parties political world.
I was even a friend to you once. On my part, a truly genuine one. I take friendships very seriously, and once I let anyone in my world I am loyal, dedicated and extremely protective of my friends.
From your side I know now it was never the case. However, you always did one thing for me – provide me with hours of laughter.
Two days ago you heard me laughing my head off. Only you have the tenacity to call me after everything that was said and done to me and offer your ‘friendship’, and money for silence, as well as thinly veiled threat not to further hurt me and even to offer UKIP me ‘media expertise’, whatever that might be.
Only you can do it three times. I was shocked that I have overestimated your intelligence thinking even Nigel is not that stupid. Maybe you did not understand it the first time when I told you that I want nothing from you, apart from my health back, which you cannot give me. That is called sarcasm and you can ask Annabelle to look it up in the dictionary for you, safe in the knowledge you really do not read the books (let alone write them). You will, even with your amount of copious drinking, remember us talking about UKIP Immigration policy on the balcony of 32 Smiths’ Square on sunny 24 February 2011 where your ‘Immigration and Islam Spokesman’ simply plagiarised parts of Mein Kampf. Your only response was ‘I never read Hitler’s book’.
Second time I was very clear – no amount of money in the world can buy my silence. Another concept you do not understand because with you everything is about lining your own pockets.
So you tried again. Third time. Why? To close the police investigation into UKIP and you personally? To stop me talking to Electoral Commission? To stop exposing your fraud? To save your precious skin? Or all three?
It was not enough that you have remained silent while Batten was inventing a criminal case that never existed to silence me about very existence of his and UKIP’s ‘Charter of Muslim Understanding’, his and UKIP’s Dismantling Multiculturalism to remove Jews and Muslims from UK, your refusal to testify against Batten for his fraud simply because he knew about your fraud too, your part in conspiracy to pervert the Course of Justice and convict me for the crime which only does not exist but I could have never committed, and just to silence and discredit me for simply telling the truth.
Well my former friend I am not for sale and there is nothing you can do to silence me, stop me, buy me and especially threaten me.

I wonder what response this will get from Farage – will he be man enough to admit he is setting out to pervert the course of justice and bribe a witness, or so it would seem.

Let us not forget Farage is under investigation both ‘yet again’ & ‘not before time’!

Interestingly George Stride, Geoffrey Collier & Nikki Sinclaire (& others) were all members of ‘Farage’s’ UKIP South West Regional committee who were well aware that Julia Longhurst supplied Farage with his  Constituency Office and UKIP Regional Regional Office for, in Farage’s own words: ‘For a peppercorn rental’, as I recal all three and others were at the meeting when Farage and the Longhursts reached agreement some 15 years ago.

It would seem that amongst other sums of money Nigel Farage has obtained is a sum of £205,000 which were ‘allowances’ for his constituency office when it was in fact funded by the generosity of the Longhursts and was in fact also UKIP’s regional office where amongst others Steve Harris worked as UKIP Regional Organiser for many years!

this sum would seem never to have been declared as a political donation, despite the fact that it had been repeatedly pointed out to Fasrage!

This sum should not be confused with the some £211,000 which in one year alone was declared in Farage’s accounts for his office as ‘sundry expenses’ – sundry expenses that exceeded 50% of the cash expenditure/turnover of the office for the year! Whether Farage was able to pass off this amount annually I do not know but let us not forget that, looking through the list of donations listed by The Electoral Commission, Nigel Farage would seem never to have made a significant donation to UKIP – yet he was able on one occasion alone to deposit £250,000 to his trust account in The Isle of Man!

It has been reported by the media that if found guilty under investigation Fararage could face a prison sentence and let us face it this is a considerably larger sum than the £36,000 or so which earned Tom Wise3 a two year prison sentence!

Little wonder it would seem that Nigel Farage will take any risk to avoid the consequences of his reported actions as reported by the media.

I personally do not accept the desperate efforts of some to claim Farage is being smeared by the media because he is some sort of threat to the ‘establishment’ – my personal experiences over many years and the 100s of people who have contacted me or provided information show Nigel Farage to be UKIP and UKIP to be Nigel Farage, so what passes for leadership is and always has been the promotion of the Farage cult where Farage acts as a sociopath in the delusion that whatever he does or says is true and correct and that anyone with differing opinions must be forced out of HIS party.
Sadly I believe there is every reason to believe that UKIP is corrupt from the top down and like fish it rots from the head down!

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Chris PAIN & UKIP’s Dilema Based on Racist Track Record!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/05/2013

Chris PAIN & UKIP’s Dilema Based on Racist Track Record!
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Chris PAIN & UKIP’s Dilema Based on Both His & UKIP’s Apparent Racist Track Record!
That UKIP Chooses to be allied and support racist bigots and extremists as partners leaves them absolutely no plausible way to deny their racist extremism!!

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having started a thread on a Forum regarding UKIP NEC member and recently elected Councillor Chris PainBarbara Booker’s comments:

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Under the headline ‘Racist rants of the UKIP councillors’, the Sunday Mirror writes:

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Ukip’s Chris Pain, leader of the opposition at Lincs Council and the party’s East Midlands regional chairman, wrote: “Have you noticed that if you *rearrange the letters in ‘illegal *immigrants’, and add just a few more letters, it spells, ‘Go home you free-loading, benefit-grabbing, resource-sucking, baby-making, non-English-speaking ********* and take those other hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, camel-riding, goat-********, raghead ******** with you.’”

Mr Pain said the comments on his Facebook pages were “not my original posts or writings”, claiming his *account had been hacked.

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What exactly is Chris Pain saying? The so-called joke about rearranging the letters of the words ‘illegal immigrants’ has been around for several years, so the question is not whether it originated from him but whether he has ever posted it to Facebook? Or is he claiming that someone else, having “hacked” his account, posted it to his Facebook page without his knowledge or consent?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news…s-more-1897414


This gave rise to the following response from ex UKIP NEC member Ian Gillman who resigned from the NEC as her was unwilling to be party to the corruption, oaffish behaviour and risk of joint and several liability in the risk of stolen public money and abuse, foul language, lies and bullying!:

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Barboo in # 1 above kindly draws to our attention to alledged writings by UKIP Councillor, Mr Chris Pain of Skegness who also appears to be the East Midlands Regional Chairman and an N.E.C. member.

Mr Pain, it appears; claims that it is ” not my original posts or writings “.

Certain very nasty e-mails written by Mr Pain with numerous contact details for him provided, are in circulation, wherein he denigrates a range of persons. They are all destined for ‘Junius’ as explained and urged by Mr Pain.
There does appear to be a parallel here.

Interestingly a Mr Gwain Towler who is a UKIP paid official I think put out a public statement about certain matters ,appears within one of those nasty e-mails written by Chris Pain. He was certainly given the special Pain treatment, as was Derek Clark MEP, whilst Mr Nigel Farage was described as watching Mr Pain and his activities very closely as Mr Pain describes his intent to deceive.

It does appear that a discliplinary case file that has already been prepared for Mr Pain will have even more to consider now.

Or, would Mr Pain like to deny herein writing nasty e-mails and circulating them ?

Mr Pain sought legal advice from a Mr Don Ransome, the East Midlands Regional Organiser/Press Officer.
Mr Ransome is not qualified to offer legal advice , but never mind that, he offered it.

Would it not be best for Mr Pain to resign as a County Councillor, Regional Chairman , NEC member and from UKIP itself ?
Then, he should write a sincerely apologetic letter to Mr Anthony Ellwood the 15 year serving treasurer ( including a short spell as national treasurer during an interregnum) who during an attempt to reconcile the national accounts uncovered 95% and perhaps even more movements from the account as conversions into cash that went to unknown places. ?
Mr Pain has ( along with his friend Mr Ransome) treated Mr Ellwood shoddily, denigrating him . For what reason we can but ask ?

Gillman’s somewhat obsessive and tediouson the public forum were I gather, seen as libellous as he could not supply the provenance he claimed he had and would not retract his claims relative to Chris Pain!

This led, I had believed, to a lifetime ban for Gillman, though it seems he is still posting as at 22-May!

Also having made a perfectly civil and proper posting in a Private Message to on of the moderators which read as follows:

Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey Collier
Dear Mr Allen,

You told me originally that my request would be forwarded to Anthony Butcher, while now you seem to have decided the matter yourself. I have just finished a telephone conversation with a barrister who knows much about UKIP, and she said that you cannot deliberately destroy published information, or deny a harmed party access to it for their legal purposes. You are certainly doing the latter of those things. Are you saying quite categorically that Mr Butcher has made this decison, and you are merely communicationg it to me?

If you believe that I have lied on the thread, which I certainly dispute, would you like to identify those lies, and confirm that you are permitted to punish me in the way that you have decided? Mr Fear made a statement on the thread which was wholly false. He seems unable to identify any supporting evidence on Junius. Your claim that I have a history of obfuscation, dishonesty and lying, yet I claim that is untrue, and I have not even a ‘parking ticket’ to blemish my good name. Yours is not a fair description of my reputation. You are protecting Mr Pain, an NEC member, who has used information gleaned by two UKIP employees in the course of their employment, to harm others. There can be no doubt about that.

I get the impression that you are deliberatlely protecting Mr Pain for reasons which have little to do with the interests of BDF. I would like the precise name of the person who finally decides to obstruct my request, if that is what they choose to do. Could I also have the legal status of the BDF; private limited company, etc.
Should it make things easier for you, can we ignore Mr Gillman’s postings, and confine ourselves to those affecting me, and my other witness Mr Ellwood? (1) Mr Fear’s original statement. (2) Mr Pain’s #373 and the ones involving the UKIP HQ manager. (3) Mr Ransome’s statement. If protecting named persons from libellous statements is important to you, I am sure that you will welcome my request.

Geoffrey Collier.


It is self evident that this eMail is at no stage any kind of threat against the Forum but rather a friendly warning from a long term and trustworthy member of both UKIP and the Forum, which UKIP has from time to time had totally dishonest co0ntrol over through, amongst others, the weak, self serving, dishonest and dublicitous Anthony Butcher who has proved time and again to be untrustworthy and only too willing to provide a platform for dishonesty and lies, abuse and libellous fantasies, as long as it suits UKIP and himself.

It is, in my opinion, dishonestly claimed that Geoffrey Collier, in giving friendly advice privately to a moderator has in some way threatened the forum and this has been at best misguidedly but based upon the Forum track record, more likely, dishonestly used to gag a critic of the corruption in UKIP – Geoffrey Collier has been dishonestly banned from posting on the forum for life (as was I( for having made a statement of FACT and provided provenance of the fact!).

Barbara Booker has gone on helpfully to plead Geoffrey’s case as has Niall Warry, another unstinting campaigner for probity, transparency and an end to corruption in UKIP to make it fit for purpose – not just as a one man band being exploited for the benefit of a small clique and supported by their corrupt claque!

Barbara Booker has summarised various facts, pertaining to Chris Pain and his apparent racist outbursts, as follows:

Be careful what you wish for!

The Skegness Standard reported on 20 May:

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UKIP has said it will be forced to eject the party’s newly elected Lincolnshire group leader if allegations he has made ‘racist rants’ on Facebook prove true. Party spokesman Gawain Towler said: “They are serious allegations and if proven true there is no way Chris Pain could remain a councillor with UKIP. However we don’t hang a man until he’s proven guilty and at the moment Chris is saying that his account was hacked.”
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http://www.skegnessstandard.co.uk/ne…ions-1-5108055

If UKIP decides that Chris Pain’s Facebook account was indeed hacked as he says (and it’s now also being claimed on the ‘Lincoln immigration issues’ site that it too has been hacked), then someone will have to explain why he allowed potentially damaging posts that he didn’t make to remain in place for so many months. If, on the other hand, UKIP decides that he did make the posts himself, and takes action against him as suggested by Gawain Towler, then it will only succeed in making UKIP a political laughing stock. Consider these facts:

Despite the impression created by the Sunday Mirror, which described the ‘illegal immigrants’ post as being among “racist rants of the UKIP councillors”, and Hope not Hate which calls it “the most disgusting racist outburst”, Chris Pain was not the author of the piece. It’s a supposed joke which seems to have originated in America in about 2009 and turns up, with slight variations, on numerous websites in the USA, Australia and here. The Chris Pain version is similar to that found on:
http://myrightwingdad.blogspot.co.uk…-lesson-i.html

‘Asylum’, which also appeared on Chris Pain’s Facebook in August 2012, dates back to at least 2001:
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/1140…cil-house.html

So, if UKIP decides that Chris Pain did post these items, he will be guilty not of having written them himself but of having forwarded them from elsewhere on the internet.

Those with long enough memories may recall an almost identical case in 2006 when a town councillor from Calne in Wiltshire, Conservative Ellie Bland, was suspended by her party for circulating an email containing the ‘Illegal Immigrants Poem’. She told the Wiltshire Gazette & Herald: “The e-mail is a joke email . . . . I didn’t write it I just forwarded it”, though later claiming that “someone else” had sent the email from her address.
http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/ne…racist_e_mail/

Contrast Gawain Towler’s statement above about Chris Pain, with UKIP’s reaction to Cllr Bland and her ‘racist email’. Two months after the story broke, Bland resigned from the Conservatives and was welcomed into UKIP, visited by Nigel Farage, and selected as UKIP candidate for the district council elections. “The support I’m getting is absolutely wonderful”, she gushed, “It’s heart-warming to know a leader will come and visit. If I ring him he answers the phone, talks to me. With David Cameron you could go to a meeting and be lucky to get him to shake your hand.”
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/n…fects_to_UKIP/

UKIP put out an enthusiastic statement, ‘Then there were four’ (26.1.07): “Graham Booth the local MEP said, This is brilliant news”, and even Nigel Farage’s assistant, Annabelle Fuller, had a dig at the LibDems over it on her blog (29.4.2007): “This is the party who caused a huge lot of bother for Councillor Ellie Bland when her husband forwarded an e-mail which was, I think, rather amusing, and accused her of being a ‘racist’.”
http://more-to-life-than-shoes.blogs…1_archive.html

UKIP cannot, in all seriousness, now turn against Chris Pain for exactly the same behaviour as resulted in Ellie Bland’s joining them and receiving such a joyful welcome!

Chris Pain does little to help himself and continue wityh outspoken racist views and values that lead one to believe he is just the sort of individual who would have made the comments on Facebook etc but has actually invoked not just the name of UKIP but his position of responsibility on behalf of UKIP and particularly its electorate in Lincolnshire, as the following article shows:

UKIP members of Lincolnshire County Council refuse to back anti-racism pledge

Friday, May 17, 2013

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All 16 UKIP councillors on Lincolnshire County Council have refused to sign an anti-racism declaration.

Labour’s Rob Parker presented the document to ensure all Lincolnshire residents are treated equality and have access to the same services.

But Chris Pain, leader of the county council’s UKIP group, the official opposition, told today’s annual meeting of the council: “I cannot support this document.

“It actually pushes forward the chance of multiculturalism, one of the fundamental things that’s wrong with our society.

“UKIP’s stance is not racist.

“Our stance is on space and space alone.”

The motion was passed by 60 councillors who voted for it, with 16 abstentions from UKIP.

The party’s own motion to reduce the council newspaper County News to a single yearly issue to cut costsfailed.

Cllr Pain had earlier pressed the council to reduce the amount of money spent on translators in Lincolnshire.

Saxilby ward member Councillor Jackie Brockway, Conservative, said: “I’m very concerned that there’s a theme developing that seems to be attacking the vulnerable and we need to careful about that.”

Cllr Hill said costs had already reduced from £54,000 to £43,000 and that translators performimportant roles in schools and law courts.

Liberal Democrat John Marriott said: “I would hope our colleagues from UKIP come up with some more practical solutionsas to how local government will survive.”

The meeting officially saw council leader Cllr Hill, his executive and committee heads appointed.

After last month’s election, the Conservatives lost overall control. Thirty-six Tories are now in a coalition with three independents and three Lib Dems.

UKIP has 16 seats, there are seven independents in opposition and 12 Labour councilors.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

Barbara Booker recently also pointed out:
Chris Pain has told the Boston Standard (20.5.13): 

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Coun Pain told The Standard that his account had been hacked and that he had not made the post himself. He said he does not agree with the words written and would never use them himself.
He told The Standard: “At the moment I am changing passwords like crazy and putting locks on.”

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http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/news…cist-1-5109070


What I do not at all understand is, since the post in question was apparently made on 4 November 2012, see http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013…?utm_hp_ref=uk , why Chris Pain didn’t remove it and take action to safeguard his facebook account straight away? Why wait until now, when a post made in his name by someone else has been splashed all over the Sunday Mirror, before changing passwords and putting locks on?

Likewise with the earlier ‘asylum’ post, made 13 August 2012. 

Was he the victim of yet another hacker with that one?
I trust that helps to pull together some of the strands in this ongoing saga regarding UKIP Racism and the part in it which UKIP NEC member and former assistant to UKIP PPC Dick Horsnell from the Isle of Man, who laid the groundwork for much of UKIP’s achievements in the area with his substantial capital injection and committed campaigning via market stalls and carrier bags etc.
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Ian GILLMAN’s Position is clearly dishonest & dishonourable

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/04/2013

 

Ian GILLMAN’s Position is clearly dishonest & dishonourableTITLE
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Ian GILLMAN’s Position is clearly dishonest & dishonourable!
It seems he has lost the plot and clearly is unable to substantiate his own apparent fantasies!

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it is sad that I now find myself in the position of realising that Ian Gilman, who gave UKIP much service in its early days, albeit in a somewhat ill considered manner, he seems to have developed the weasel like tendencies of sneaking up on the unsuspecting and snipping at their heels.
Do note the following posting in the public domain of a UKIP controlled Forum:
Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
The Junius-Chris Pain-GLW axis have threatened to release filthy and lurid e-mails pertaining to a Miss Annabelle Fuller who may be employed by UKIP and work for Mr Farage, the leader.
Thus a deliberate attempt to damage the leader and the party is intended, but; we are told not before an attempt to offer it first to mainstream media for salacious columns.
Having been called upon by a Moderator on the said forum to provide proof or appologise for his lies we note Ian Gillman has proved unable to show his provenance for his allegations.
Therefor again I believe Ian Gillman to be untrustworthy, ureliable and dishonest.
Consider:

From: Greg Lance – Watkins <greg_l-w@btconnect.com>

Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:10:45 +0000

To: REDACTED

Subject: re: Gilman’s dishonesty.

 

Hi,

REDACTED – sorry to bother you BUT!

Here is the opening of a post by Ian Gilman:

‘The Junius-Chris Pain-GLW axis have threatened to release filthy and lurid e-mails pertaining to a Miss Annabelle Fuller who may be employed by UKIP and work for Mr Farage, the leader.
Thus a deliberate attempt to damage the leader and the party is intended, but; we are told not before an attempt to offer it first to mainstream media for salacious columns.’

As it is wrong on seemingly every count perhaps you would call for his apology or his proof.

The Junius-Chris Pain-GLW axis

Since he has no clue as to the identity of those who work as ‘Junius’ this is pure speculation.

Further I have never met Pain nor am I overly impressed with his unprofessional behaviour that he bores all and sundy with his over egged fantasies about Geoffrey Collier though those re Gilman seem justified!

I happen to KNOW that Pain does not know who Junius is and nor does Geoffrey Collier!

have threatened to release filthy and lurid e-mails pertaining to a Miss Annabelle Fuller

Please show where I have so threatened – it is a lie!

who may be employed by UKIP and work for Mr Farage,

Not MAY but does as recorded officially and also employed as Athena as also proven.

the leader.

Moot point!!!
Thus a deliberate attempt to damage the leader and the party is intended,

RUBBISH this is a lie as my aim, as a supporter of UKIP’s aim to Leave-The-EU as held by its grass roots members, is clearly shown to be to make every effort to clean up the party and professionalise it to make it fit for purpose which with the present level of banal and self seeking squabbling and its racism etc. it clearly is not.

but; we are told not before an attempt to offer it first to mainstream media for salacious columns.

Rather than use long words beyond his education he might care to look up salacious and also where I or Junius have ‘OFFERED’ the material to media. That I have been approached directly for the information for a serious political documentary is a different matter.

Thanks,

Greg_L-W.

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Ian Gillman was asked to substantiate his fictitious rantings some days ago and to date has failed to either substantiate his dishonesties nor be man enough to apologise for his lies.

It does rather look, on the same forum, as if Ian Gillman has duped the well meaning Geoffrey Collier into being the standard bearer for the sad spectacle of Gillman’s embittered and wild claims.

May I publicly urge cation to Mr. Collier for he would not be the first person to be hoist on Gillman’s petard!

That I hear from contacts the Sean Howlett is also remeaning UKIP and making it look even nore serious in its idiotic complaints to Hertfordshire Police where he lays claim and complaint thaty Junius, and for good measure in oassing myself, are guilty under the data protection act of publishing confidential eNails and comments from various public sources.

Just think what a shambols these dweebs would make of any responsible role they ever achieved with their risible pretence to being Libertarian where in reality they have hidden themselves to make themselves a coffee!

Just how stupid are these foolish oi pretend politicians as they strive to do something right for the sake of their cattle! It is not just the total lack of underastanding of the law and the willingness to waste Police time with their vicious efforts at central control in contradiction of Libertarianism, which makes UKIP members look so utterly foolish!

Since I have made a point of accurately posting facts and clearly defining opinion on my blog and even someone as foolish as the little Sean Howlett knows that it is I who publish my blog we must hope, since he can provide no other facts as he knows none that are relevant – let us hope he has saved them time by providing them with my phone number so that I can, as with the3 dishonest claims of Gerard Batten and others show just how rizzible are UKIP leadership team!

There will of course be some polic3e who are so irresponsible and lacking in a sense of duty that they may even visit to be told they are making fools of themselves and have been set up by UKIP based on false information.

I wonder where Sean Howlett has admonished the police to go to interview Junius!!! For it is certain the foolish little man hasn’t a clue who Junius is any more than do the leadership of UKIP!

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the back stabbing, squabbling and viciously odious behaviour of those on the make and the take in UKIP and those who feel they were in some way outwitted, out maneuvered or out performed in their efforts to climb the unsavoury and particularly greasy pole that UKIP provides on route to a place on the gravy train, or preferment in some way, can be measured by the following UKIP controlled public Forum posting.
Let us start off with this posting from an embittered and particularly repetitive pedant, on the UKIP controlled forum – I shall spare them the embarrassment of identifying them, suffice to say not the most reliable sources for information and untrustworthy, as I have found to my cost, also!
Many a sound and proven story exposing UKIP has foundered on this particular obsessive’s insistance on over egging the cake to impress. Clearly not realising that the simple facts and cross referenced truth suffice, one item at a time rather than throwing all the mud in the water and making it unpalatable for any investigator and too tedious for words!
Well what do YOU think:
Yesterday the ‘Junius’ internet site gave notice of its future intentions to publicise evidently unpleasant e-mails.
Just as though the trailer at the cinema for next weeks film that is to be even better than this weeks offering , the reader is encouraged to ponder then salivate.
The use of nasty e-mails about persons, especially those who gave of their time and resources to build up a volunteer base party is not now a new phenomenon.It has become a device to attain office that, sadly has succeeded.
Of course the e-mails that are to be offered for public consumption are able to be witheld were those within the team not wishing to destroy, then create a vacuum that they perhaps intend to fill.
Has this latest episode been prompted by illegal attacks upon persons computers ?
That method of attaining information has been employed against three persons to my certain knowledge in the past.
As so often with those who aim to be vindictive, convinced of the righteous nature of their fantasies, yet again we note they have jumped to the conclusion that an obvious 2 + 2 =s something other than 4.The deduction was so half witted that they failed to note the contact on Junius was awaiting forwarding of the material from me and I had firstly to redact to protect my sources and then to endeavour to ensure the veracity of the material I had been supplied!

The only reason I paid ANY attention to the gossip was that having compiled the posting late last night, as I endeavoured to post it Firefox crashed, deleting both the posting and the auto backups!

Sadly, as so often happens in a rush to judgement, the author of that foolish Forum post has got entirely the wrong end of the stick!
Then we have the spectacle of this foolish individual expounding on matters of which they clearly have little or no understanding – and just when is there proof someone’s computer was ‘hacked’ by someone in UKIP. Though I appreciate the grubby little sewer rat Nigel farage has employed ‘Mark Croucher, has from time to time claimed knowledge of hacking to make his lies more plausible and be of greater value to his pay master!
Clearly only a half wit would willingly put their computer forward on the internet without a serious degree of anti virus protection and a professional firewal of some sort. Frankly I do NOT believe that there has been either consequential or competent hacking within UKIP as such and as for GCHQ taking an interest on UKIP grounds dream on – they have better things to do, though clearly they don’t do them very well!
The case for having a computer hacked is very limited but without anti virus then clearly one is prone to Trojans and the like and exploitation of the computer by ‘hitch hikers’ either mass spamming or using the address book and the like.
At one moment attacking the duplicitous and corrupt Derek Clark and at the next seeking to defend him; as with the praise they lavish on Nikki Sinclaire and yet the damaging misinformation about West Midlands events!
The trail is long and tedious at one moment sharing information and yet at another, in breech of trust, playing secret squirrel to feed some fantasy or another!”
I would not be surprised if it was this buffoon who is spreading malicious rumours about Chris Pain supplying eMails to Junius and Geoffrey Collier leaking mass circulation ‘e’Mails!!! Or even trying to convince that the cartoons on The Junius Team blog are provided by Pain, leading some of the gullible fools in UKIP leadership to believe they are, when clearly many of them are actually signed photoshop cartoons and the rest are in the same style, mainly appeared in the ex UKipper and BNP sympathiser Andrew Edwards’ ‘e’Mail circulars.
But based on the level of political common sense in UKIP or political judgement one would hardly expect their leadership team to make intelligent guesses let alone professional deductions!
The material to which Team Junius allude on their blog is now my next task and with good fortune and a minimal number of interuptions (firefox not withstanding) I hope to have re-written the post later today – at which stage Junius Team will pick it up and post it, when they have time and their EU work allowing.
Meanwhile I shall await the latest efforts of the pond life of UKIP and its followers to desperately either stab each other in the back as they fight like inebriated ferrets in a pillow case desperately trying to hide their identities behind pseudonyms on the pretence that they NEED to protect their names for ‘internet security’ either they are dellusional or have a very inflated opinion of their worth!
I long ago stopped caring which foolish fake was Tubby arnott, Slime Croucher, Slut (you choose!), idiotic Finch, Mick McTrough, The Oaff Reeve, or any number of clowns too ashamed to put their names to their  vituperative maunderings.
To be fair I rarely read the postings of those who hide in shame there are enough items by honourable men and women to take up my time and at least with information supplied by real people it can be checked!
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Background info to the long term failure of UKIP

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    I’m always respectful I hope, I will await a reply from Michael.

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    Dustbin Lid,I regret I am unable to translate the mutterings of the senile chap in the coffee shop.I regret that I fear dementia has befallen Geoffrey as he posts a series of unrelated words.He joins Greg Liar-Wotsit in the waiting room as all the anti-UKIP Nutters are recalled to base.

    (G.L-W.: that was an example of the low grade style of a UKIP NEC member who has consistently befouled the cause with his childish posturings & general tasteless sneerings and dishonesty)
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    Geoffrey Collier is online now(G.L-W. has been a dedicated member and supporter of UKIP for approaching 20 years. A retired CFollege Lecturer of some standing. Geoffrey Collier has not only officially represented UKIP on matters pertaining to the countryside & National Parks but also was a founder and chairman of UKIP’s largest branch and chaired the branch when it was the largest revenue donator of any branch in Britain.
    Geoffrey Collier has been a relentless toiler for the partyy and has worked relentlessly to try to instigate integrity, ethics, probity and honesty in an effort to try to clean up the party to make it fit for purpose.
    Geoffrey Collier, like many who aim to control the dishonest and the corrupt has received constant attacks from those who see their income stream, perks or root to the gravy train thwarted by his actions!)

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    I’m always respectful I hope, I will await a reply from Michael.
    Geoffrey Collier’s informed response:

    Dustbin Lid: Now can you see better the problems which we have in UKIP?
    Michael used to counter-sign UKIP cheques from the national account, which were agreed with UKIP’s national Treasurer Andrew Smith.
    Elected members to the NEC, who have asked to peruse those accounts, have been systematically dismissed from the NEC for making such requests.

    (G.L-W: Andrew Smith, as treasurer, was asked around 25 basic questions about the UKIP accounts, for which he was responsible, by members of the NEC – He was unable to answer the questions and to avoid facing up to his responsibilities he quit the job without notice, leaving the accounts in complete disarray – this was the man wyho eMailed individuals to lay out his plan as to how to deceive the Electoral Commision!

    At the moment there are no less than two television companies investigating UKIP’s financial affairs;

    (G.L-W: There are more!)

    no doubt there are national newspapers doing likewise.

    (G.L-W: There are numerous!)


    It is easy for people like Michael to try and dismiss these things, but the evidence is to the contrary.

    OLAF have required UKIP MEPs’ to return impermissible financial allocations.

    (G.L-W: Tom Wise, a UKIP MEP was sentenced to 2 years in prison for his fraud and Derek Clar UKIP MEP, after boasting of his defrauding the tax payers was subsequently found guilty and ordered to repay a similar sum to that which Tom Wise embezzled!
    Nigel Farage, Jeffrey Titford and Graham Booth as UKIP MEPs were also found guilty of misappropriation of tax payer’s money and ordered to repay money they had taken)


    Others, such as Stuart Agnew, admitted that he has been doing likewise.

    (G.L-W: Mike Nattrass was investigated by OLAF also and having read the conclusion/report it was clear OLAF opted to take no further action!
    Stuart Agnew & David Bannerman are both still under investigation by OLAF for fraudulent misuse of tax payers money as admitted to on camera to The Sunday Times.)


    At a time when we should be making real progress, newspapers are giving UKIP banner headlines, knowing that for UKIP, soon will dawn that day of nemesis. We are warned of ‘Greeks bearing gifts’, I say be more beware of national newspapers deliberately building you up, for the delight of knocking you down.

    (G.L-W: Many will be aware, or may even have seen, the evicerating comments of Andrew Neal with regard to Farage & UKIP, since the somewhat febrile achievements at Eastleigh!)

    In UKIP the cause has been impeccable; while the membership has given of their time, efforts and generosity year-on-year, unstintingly. But it would be foolish to say that they have been given the leadership which they deserve.

    NEC member Mr Mcgough makes inane comments, for that is the best that he can do.

    You know that I am right, don’t you Michael?

    If you analyse the composition of the leadership, it comprises two distinct parts.

    There are one or two whom we can trust, but there is a cluster of genuine ignoramuses; for a good salary they would say anything.

    The other group is comprised of those with damaged reputations ( e.g. Neil Hamilton) and Lord Monckton, who had to be advised that he is not an ‘honorary member of the House of Lords, and to inform American Senators that he is, has no basis in fact.

    These people make the management of the Party more manageable than the talented people, who are seen as an immediate threat to the existing status-quo. Surely that cannot be seriously denied?

    We have survived the years, and for some decades, of espousing a message that was not popular. Now that our time has come, we are to be harmed by internal corruption which has existed unabated for years.

    We had an opportunity to deal with our own problems, and unsavoury people, but we chose to do nothing.

    Now that our cause has genuine political capital, there will be others who will embrace it as their own, and UKIP’s past misdeeds shall return to haunt them.

    That is sad; but it must be what is awaiting UKIP.

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    Oh dear, it seems there has been some rather disappointing behavior from some.

It is interesting to note the endless lies of Mick McGough as he and others in UKIP’s corrupt leadership by self serving ne’er do wells desperately try to hide their corruption by seeking to denigrate and defame people like Geoffrey Collier, Niall Warry, The Junius Team, Nikki Sinclaire, myself and others.

The endless claims of my misleading people and claims that I have lied on my blog are risible – in well over 2,000 blog postings and probably the same number of Forum entries, YouTube contributions, Twitters, eMails and the like NOT ONCE have UKIP their lawyers, sock puppets, leadership, NEC members nor even their claque of cowardly anonymous supporters EVER been able to identify a single consequential fact which I have got wrong, with regard to UKIP & its people, let alone any sign of a deliberate lie – would that the same could be said of UKIP & its leadership.

Were UKIP able to show, in like manner, their ethical behaviour, integrity and probity perhaps they would not have been such an abject failure in representing the EUroSceptic cause and just might have attracted not just support of consequence, some gravitas, a flicker of leadership, an iota of professionalism and even perhaps someone elected to an office of consequence in a domestic election!
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Chris Pain Finds UKIP Squabbling Like Ferrets in a Sack!

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    Seth Starkadder :
    Actually, you are reading plain English.
    Events that have so tragically shaped UKIP these last few years when a 29,500 membership in autumn 2004 should have been increased by many times, and we see a one year police investigation ongoing ( resources for which have to be justified, and the C.P.S. – or even in this case perhaps the Attourney General’s office, – convinced of a case with admissable evidence ) matters as discussed above do in fact impact.

    We have seen ‘Junius’ publish cartoons of Mr Clark MEP, including wareing his bedroom slippers whilst simultaneously correspondence backs up that which appears online.
    That is, derogeratory statements designed to undermine an original member who like myself and others similarly denegrated, started the party in the country from our own resources.

    When one reads about Mr Clark “…..his reputation for falling asleep……. time to hang up the slippers ! D.C…….. he has to go home for Horlicks and bed regardless………. “

    then he informs the world

    “….. some great mileage here for Junius………

    just a few bits to be put to print ! “

    Note the sneering !exclamation mark.

    He clearly states ” I will be happy to send on info to you in the future……..”

    Then why does he not publish the ‘info’ that explains why we lost so many decent volunteer members, the sources of the three £ 500 cheques, their onward transfer, into which accounts, the correspondence requesting back our hard earned money, and who exactly are the ‘Junius’ team who rather like Lord Rennard; are rather adept at getting their candidate elected.

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    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
    Recalling our General Election ’round-up’ meeting which is invoked by the above I recall the Regional Organiser explaining to the the East Midlands committe how a candidate had particularly upset many volunteer members.
    He clearly indicated that a certain candidate would not be encouraged in his blatent and transparent intentions.
    I recall resignations due to behavoir not previously associated with those of us who started the branches and regions.
    The figure of £ 1,500 comes to mind in three cheques of £ 500 each , and clear written verbal and committee approved requests for return of our money. The chairman too had been approached.
    Bank statements show the truth of the matter, cheque books too. Yes the evidence mentioned above is available.
    Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???The verbal ‘trashing’ of the long term treasurer ( 15 years )was a disgrace. His treatment alone should have merited action by a discliplinary committee.
    The immediate condemnation of all that had gone before without any evidence of experience, intellect in these matters, or actual ability to effect anything better , again an utter disgrace. We volunteers had effected the election of ten MEP’s by giving up our time and resources to achieve those in elected office who would assist our withdrawel from the E.U.Correspondence widely circulated indicates that the ‘Junius’ team now have in place a long supported protegee.
    Little wonder then that Mr Derek Clark MEP is lampooned in cartoon form upon the internet, by a fountain in Nottingham, shown in his slippers, derided as liking his Horlicks, and derogatory comments are published about him when clear written statements are passed around about the leadership being carefully kept in the dark about exactly what is happening .
    Monday being the likely NEC meeting day should be very interesting.Will there be a challenge for the leadership ?Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???

    Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
    Seth Starkadder :
    Actually, you are reading plain English.
    Events that have so tragically shaped UKIP these last few years when a 29,500 membership in autumn 2004 should have been increased by many times, and we see a one year police investigation ongoing ( resources for which have to be justified, and the C.P.S. – or even in this case perhaps the Attourney General’s office, – convinced of a case with admissable evidence ) matters as discussed above do in fact impact.We have seen ‘Junius’ publish cartoons of Mr Clark MEP, including wareing his bedroom slippers whilst simultaneously correspondence backs up that which appears online.
    That is, derogeratory statements designed to undermine an original member who like myself and others similarly denegrated, started the party in the country from our own resources.When one reads about Mr Clark “…..his reputation for falling asleep……. time to hang up the slippers ! D.C…….. he has to go home for Horlicks and bed regardless………. “then he informs the world

    “….. some great mileage here for Junius………

    just a few bits to be put to print ! “

    Note the sneering !exclamation mark.

    He clearly states ” I will be happy to send on info to you in the future……..”

    Then why does he not publish the ‘info’ that explains why we lost so many decent volunteer members, the sources of the three £ 500 cheques, their onward transfer, into which accounts, the correspondence requesting back our hard earned money, and who exactly are the ‘Junius’ team who rather like Lord Rennard; are rather adept at getting their candidate elected.

    29,500 membership?
    could you please say where you got this figure from?
    esp as you say 2004.

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    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?
    Here is the response of the underhand and cowardly FKEU – too ashamed of his lies, inuendo and behaviour to put his name to his cowardly carping:

    Intresting.
    Seems there are a nice group of people so desperate for UKIP to fail (as it seems they failed at being ukip themselves) they will spin lies to the sheep who lap them up as want to belive it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pain View Post
    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?
    Geoffrey Collier’s retort is:

    Chris Pain: While I do not know the identity of Tiquipaya, I am assured that it is not someone named Paula (whoever she is). From what you say evidence must exist as to her historic wrongdoings. Has she confessed to those? Is the R.O. to whom you refer, a Mr Ramsome who, for purposes of remuneration, denies being the RO and cites his occupation as that of Press Officer in EU ‘claims’ documentaion? The payments to you, I understand, relate to your candidacy in a parliamentary election, although I claim no first-hand knowledge as to the precise details. Apologise to the unfortunate Paula, keep rational, and start again.

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    Geoffrey, it’s quite ovbious that you know something about this slander and the person concerned! So let please put all the aleged info on here, re times, dates, people concerned and who posted this trash!!!!
    There is one problem I have never had any payements from the EMCC at all!
    I have not had a multiple of £500 cheques from the EMCC!
    I have not had a request by email, telephone or from the EMCC, because I have not had
    any money or had any funds period from the EMCC.
    Any one can contact any of the previous or the current EMCC members and my statement will be verified.This will then be confirmed as made up slander from someone that has a grudge against me personaly.
    So please can Tiquipa or yourself supply evidence of any kind re this issue, the answer is no because it does not exist. So please either put up or shut up and post a full appology on here!
    My NEC election result was exceptional, because other regions have got far more members than the East Mids, but this is just green eyed trouble making. After working hard in the party as an activist for eight years, organising two UKIP conferences, plus some decent results at GE’s by UKIP standards whilst repersenting the members, has gained their support. Then again it’s the MEP silly season soon and people will be crawling out from under their stones again, inorder to try to climb up the slimy pole.
    Junius in the past have both supported me and critised me, but there are several people whom I am aware have not voted for me because of the Junius recomendation, so it’s a two edged sword.
    So please Geoffrey please oblige with the information that I have requested above.

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I have a pretty clear understanding that the unfortunate Ian Gillman is unlikely to publish his evidence, probably using some ‘secret squirrel’ dellusion, and I know for certain he hasn’t a clue about Junius nor one shred of evidence that Chris Pain has ever spoken to or even knows Junius – though he may well speak to someone who supplies me with facts, as does Ian Gillman from time to time.Let us also be very clear that Derek Clark is a liar, untrustworthy, corrupt and self serving who has boasted openly of the amount of money he has defrauded the public purse of, and he was found guilty of defrauding the public purse of over £30,000 and ordered to repay the money he had perloined by OLAF – A similar amount of money as that which one of the other UKIP MEPs, Tom Wise, stole and for which Tom Wise was sentenced to 2 years in prison.I am morally certain that Chris Pain has never wittingly spoken to Junius and thus has never supplied Junius with material to publish. Regular readers will be aware that I personally NEVER confirm or deny who supplies me with the facts which I publish.

And then after an effort to censor the squabbling accusations and bickering broke out again (well it is UKIP! They fight like ferrets in a sack amongst the foot soldiers, just as their leadership does for lack of competence or ability) – note the time line:

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    Ian Gillman surely has proof of all he claims. I wonder why he declines to share the proof with the world. He could afford to lose a £500 deposit in Corby so the cost of a scanner cannot be beyond him.

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    Persons are taking to the telephone in some excitement now as a recently elected NEC member with great plans for his own reforms , a Chris Pain has so much to say.

    The word from many is that Chris P. in his G.E. campaign in Louth, Lincs. obtained £ 500 from the EMCC .
    Then he claimed that the money had not been paid to his campaign and he put a lot of pressure upon the officers to send another cheque. He said that the cheque had not arrived.

    Reluctantly, his campaign was sent another cheque for £ 500 on the clear understanding that if the first cheque turned up it was to be returned to the committee.

    Incredibly, both cheques were banked. A dishonest demand for the second cheque had been made and despite his assurances that only one cheque would be banked, both were.

    The EMCC, short of money and relying upon volunteers with many years standing of generousity were told about these matters. Chris P. was told in several telephone conversations to return the money, he failed to do so.
    Written requests were made for the return of the money, Chris P. ignored those requests.

    The EMCC , following the G.E. met and the R.O. Don Ransome made quite a speech about matters in Louth, and Chris P. in particular. He left an impression that Pain would not be encouraged any further in his membership of UKIP.Members felt let down and cheated.

    The MEP for the region Derek Clark experienced nasty e-mails circulated by Chris P. about him and he became aware of a steady yet ongoing campaign to destabalise him from his position. This, oddly whilst always boosting Pain’s position.

    I did hear that the party chairman was approached by Chris Pain for money too, but unsure of the amounts requested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiquipaya View Post
    Incredibly, both cheques were banked. A dishonest demand for the second cheque had been made and despite his assurances that only one cheque would be banked, both were.
    … Chris P. was told in several telephone conversations to return the money, he failed to do so.
    Written requests were made for the return of the money, Chris P. ignored those requests.

    Then the cowardly ‘Independent UKIP’ as ever ashamed to put his name to his sneering, defamations, inuendo and outright lies said:

    This was surely reported to the Police in 2005. What was the outcome of their investigation, as for some reason you’ve not made reference to that. Thanks.

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This was surely reported to the Police in 2005. What was the outcome of their investigation, as for some reason you’ve not made reference to that. Thanks.
To which Geoffrey Collier made the reply:

Independent UKIP: I made the accurate statement that Chris Pain was wrong to attribute to a Paula? the authorship of that posting. Who the lady is, or what reprehensible things which she did in the past, has no bearing whatever on the issue being discussed. She was certainly not the individual who posted that information. Mr Pain appears to have been voted on to the NEC to help to control the Party, while he clearly has difficulties in controlling himself. Why are the Forum rules applied so unevenly? An NEC member, for example, by the name of Mr Mcgough frequently makes accusations of certain individuals being in the ‘pay’ of others without required to produce evidence. Perhaps with the advantage of reflection, Mr Pain may recall his parliamentary election, and be willing to agree that his local branch did make a financial contribution to him. Is the gentleman saying that no such payment was made, and no banking evidence as a consequence can be produced? Was he both the candidate and sole financier of his campaign?

One can only speculate that Mick McGough’s lies, slanders and defamatory claims are permitted to remain because being known to all as a low life a liar and a cheat it is felt that the more he says the more he damages his own credibility as it is clear that his fellow travellers such as Independent UKIP, FKEU, SDP and their ilk are clearly damaging the credibility of UKIP – hard as that is to do since UKIP are now little more than the only available dustbin, wherein protesters against the two Political Parties in Britain and the LibDims can post their votes with virtually no fear of any long term consequence, as shown by the likes of those quoted above who ensure that UKIP will never achieve anything in domestic politics beyond the cult of the one man band.For more factual details regarding Chris Pain and these matters you may care to CLICK HERE

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A Snippet of FACTUAL COMMENT on UKIP

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A Snippet of FACTUAL COMMENT on UKIP, made on a public Forum controlled by UKIP, by Geoffrey Collier!!

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in reading this snippet of factual comment, let us remember that Geoffrey Collier is one of UKIP’s many long standing members who wage a long drawn out battle to clean up UKIP, eradicate the endemic corruption, seek to introduce ethics and professionalism and generally make UKIP fit for purpose.What is important to remember is that not only is he still a member of UKIP, (which I have NEVER been) though there is little doubt this is based on hope over experience, he was one of UKIP’s most successful Branch Chairmen EVER – both in the gain in size of his branch, the size and the income generated by his branch.

It must be with some embarrassment and a great deal of sadness that he comments as he does – seeing his hopes for an independent Britain so exploited and befouled by UKIP’s leadership clique and their claque of liars, cowards & fools at and close to the top.

“It may be wise for Mr McGough to remember that it was his friend Andrew Smith who provided evidence to the Electoral Commission which assisted their case against UKIP in obtaining a conviction for accepting impermissible donations.

That same Mr Smith considers that he has the necessary qualities to become a Police Commissioner. Sadly, this is the background against (which) we labour for our cause.

The EU budget debate has collapsed; and we have candidates in police commissioner and parliamentary by-elections next Thursday.

Does the level of debate which we have on this thread suggest that important matters are afoot? If Mr McGough is a sound example of the NEC members, can we expect to remain a serious source of talent to extricate this nation from the E.U.?

People have worked hard for years against the consequences of ‘being in Europe’, only to see corruption, stupidity and ignorance frustrate their efforts from the very same NEC which supposed to be offering leadership.

UKIP has a good case; a good membership, but moral and intellectual poverty among the leadership. That cannot be seriously doubted”.

Geoffrey Collier is far from alone in his sadness at such an unprincipled and self serving betrayal by the scoundrels who have taken control of the party that so many of us had high hopes of. It is that dishonesty, self serving self enrichment and total lack of honour or ability amongst UKIP’s leadership and its claque that drives many of us to STILL try to clean up UKIP and effect a root and branches prunning of the dead and corrupt matter in the party.Even in forest management to TRY to control die back harsh remedial action and constant copicing is required – Politics is no different as disease and corruption are prone to become endemic in pursuit of the favoured places at the troughs on the gravy train and like rats in a corner those feeding at the troughs will take any dishonest, corrupt, sordid and dispicable action to keep their snouts in the trough it would seem.

Farage makes much of his desire to see Denis McShane in prison for his corruption of the public purse but let us consider the extent of self enrichment Farage has indulged himself in from that same purse be it paying his wife £30K a year, travelling widely for pleasure whilst6 failing to acquit his duties of leadership, transparency and professionalism.

Let us not forget Farage wittingly borrowed stolen money from Tom Wise to settle his own debts and it was not repaid. Let us not forget that Nigel Farage has never been able to show where over 85% of the monies raised by Ashford vanished (UKIP’s most successful fund raiser HE called it!), nor has Farage ever shown where over £1/4Million vanished, seemingly trousered, obtained from the public purse for a petition that was never carried out.

Let us also note that Nigel Farage was, like Denis McShane, found guilty of obtaining money from the public purse and using it for unacceptable purposes – Farage himself was ordered to repay some £11,000 thus purloined!

More recently Derek Clark lied, cheated and abused the system to the tune of over £30,000 which he was forced to repay – Farage has failed to censure this theft or the lies surrounding it nor has he issued an apology for the behaviour of the liar and low life Derek Clark or UKIP staff for the lies about myself, my blog or that of other UKIP supporters making efforts to expose the corruption & make UKIP fit for purpose.

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The dubious ethics (Clear corruption?) of Godfrey Bloom a UKIP MEP!

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The dubious ethics (Clear corruption?) of Godfrey Bloom a UKIP MEP!

FIRST PUBLISHED on: http://godfrey-bloom.blogspot.co.uk/

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

The dubious ethics (Clear corruption?) of Godfrey Bloom a UKIP MEP!

FIRST PUBLISHED on: http://godfrey-bloom.blogspot.co.uk/

Let us not forget UKIP members voted overwhelmingly AGAINST UKIP being a part of any Pan EU Political Party Grouping!

Godfrey Bloom, in utter contempt for members is founder & President of one such group & member of another similar!

Nigel Farage is also presiding over a near identical extremist group of racists, anti Islamic, anti homosexual, anti Jewish EU MEPs!

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Pan European Alliance for Freedom..

Godfrey Bloom. MEP.
President.
European Alliance for Freedom.
The Loft.
Vicarage Cottage.
Wressele.
Selby
Yorkshire YO8 6ET.

supplied by Barbara Booker:

Further to this, it’s interesting what a little trawling around on google brings floating to the surface:

Although Godfrey Bloom states on his website that his secretary is his wife’s niece, he is rather less transparent about Vicarage Cottage, Selby. Prior to her death last year, this was the address of his mother-in-law! http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/900301174

Jane Collins does not have any obvious qualifications or experience for her job as Godfrey’s political agent and regional organiser, but she does have some twenty years’ friendship with Mrs Bloom that includes being Katie’s former yard manager and fellow celebrity in the hunting field!
http://www.selbytimes.co.uk/sport/en…-pair-1-563659
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/artic…e-z-hunts.html

Eric Richards is on Godfrey’s staff as an assistant. Coincidentally, the think tank associated with the EAF, the European Foundation for Freedom, also has a treasurer named Eric Richards.

During UKIP’s PEP consultation last year the ‘YES’ campaign posted to its website a memo from Godfrey Bloom re his having joined such a party, and claiming that one of the benefits was, “We have initiated a fabulous youth programme, details attached which is beyond anything on offer from any other party. Two youngsters embark upon it on 1st August”. The young people were not named, nor is there any reference to this training programme on the EAF website, but I see that UKIP has an intern, Peter Massie, who works for them at the European parliament
http://www.godfreybloommep.co.uk/news-january-2012.html
http://www.fishfight.net/blog/fish-f…ing-in-europe/

Would Mr Massie be one of the trainees whose out of pocket expenses have apparently been met for a two week diploma course at the Von Mises Institute in Alabama?
http://www.yesgiveukipthetools.com/7…Programme1.pdf

If so, I guess the other trainee enjoying the benefits of the Youth Programme may have been his friend from Newcastle University, Richard Skowronek? Both were photographed with Godfrey Bloom on his recent lecture tour of America, where he gave a speech at the Mises Institute
http://www.godfreybloommep.co.uk/ame…cturetour.html

Richard Skowronek is, of course, the brother of Bloom’s secretary Victoria, the nephew of Mrs Bloom, and the grandson of the lady who used to live in the cottage which is the UK office of the European Alliance for Freedom.

My thanks to Barbara Booker and Geoffrey Collier for the supply of this information, also to the many other UKIP members and non members who supply so much factual information as they wish to see UKIP cleaned up to make it ethically acceptable to vote for and fit for purpose or closed down, due to its undeniable endemic corruption and lack of ethics.

FIRST PUBLISHED on: http://godfrey-bloom.blogspot.co.uk/

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It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

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The betrayal by UKIP of Corby & their members

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to highlight some of the facts published relative to the Corby by-election and UKIP’s squalid behaviour and clearly unsuitable self serving candidate first featured at CLICK HERE :
UKIP’s promotion of this candidate in Corby is deeply suspect and utterly inappropriate:
Margot Parker UKIP’s PPC
for Corby Northants by-election!
EU Lobbyist for Libertas & also for Perfumes!
Just where is the gravitas, the track record and the display of professionalism from UKIP that might raise their chances from their same old same old turgid ineptitude, unpopularity & failure rate.
Sadly the East Midlands region has been all but totally trashed by the lies, corruption and dishonesty of Derek Clark their utterly embarrassing MEP and his odious staff.

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ADDITIONAL MATERIAL @ 21-Aug-2010:

A very brief check on the track record of Margot Parker tends to indicate selection being consisderably more as a result of her association with Lisa Duffy than her track record of ability, popularity or service to UKIP?

I gather Mrs. Parker has stood on various occasions in opposition to UKIP and did not make any effort to stand as a candidate in the local elections for UKIP.

I understand that Mrs. Parker stood as a PPC for another party but failed to make any notable impression.

I understand that Mrs Parker was a front line activist for Declan Ganley’s Libertas Party, a name duplicitously registered by a UKIP employee, for Nigel Farage to try to defend his income and block Declan Ganley’s vision.

Mrs. Margot Parker was not just an activist for Declan Ganley but was seemingly a highly salaried unofficial lobbyist in Brussels and Strasbourg with little but contempt for UKIP as shown by Farage’s oft made comment that Libertas was not anti membership of The EU and clearly Mrs. Margot Parker was not!

I gather Mrs. Margot Parker has described herself in her Libertas days as  ’No stranger to the European parliament. Margot has been personally involved in lobbying the EU both in Brussels and Strasbourg.’

Many will be aware that effectively UKIP has abandoned any semblance of democracy and principle and ALL staffing and all candidates fall in the gift of Nigel Farage and when it suits him his claque of self serving placemen! One is forced to wonder why this opponent of UKIP who actively lobbied against UKIP and was a staffer and candidate for a Party which Farage considers not to have been anti EU membership is now able to change sides merely to fulfil her personal ambitions.

I incline to the belief that this shows an almost criminal self interest in its lack of principle – any view will be promoted it seems as long as one can feather one’s nest from the public purse on the gravy train. A standard of ethics all too well known within UKIP!

This has all the hallmarks of the transparency and integrity UKIP promised when Nigel Farage promised he would professionalise UKIP. Little wonder with ethics like this and the shoddy behaviour UKIP has actually delivered that they have absolutely no one of calliber, gravitas, integrity or competence in any position or office in the entire party and are utterly dependent on ‘churn’ to keep the semblance of members as everyone with one iota of ability or self respect disassociates themselves from the squalid little self serving party and UKIP continues to irelevantly bump along the bottom in British domestic politics having driven away its competent activists and backers.

It seems Mrs. Margot Parker’s interest in Corby are considerably more relevant as an excercise in raising her PERSONAL profile in the hope of placement on UKIP’s list as an MEP candidate, which is no longer a democratic process and is based upon a somewhat dictatorial policy more in keeping with The EU, where UKIP leadership and its unprofessional parasites feel at home, rather than the values and integrity and thus aspirations of these United Kingdoms.

Perhaps you would care to consider the depth of involvement in profiteering from The EU, in a manner rather more in line with the pro EU (to quote Farage) Libertas Party of Declan Ganley’s consider her web site:

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EUROCOMCONSULT 

 

What it is: Advice and information on EU legislation for industry and Businesses.

Who Does it?  Margot Parker: Fellow of the British Promotional Merchandise Association.

Who is Margot?  Margot is a Director of Eurocom-Consult, a well-known and respected figure in EU parliamentary and lobbying circles, particularly in relation to the promotional, marketing, food and fragrance industries.

 In her roles as a past Director of EPPA (European Promotional Products Association) and the BPMA (British Promotional Merchandise Association’s) spokesperson on Europe. Margot became involved with the European Parliamentary system in a lobbying capacity for the BPMA. Margot now consults in her areas of expertise.

The service involves:

  • updates on, and explanation of current legislation,
  • forthcoming legislation and
  • in depth research on European issues using personal contact and information not readily available to the general public.
  • Presentation to interested groups or associations on current or impending legislation.
  •  Company telephone consulting
  •  Special Research on EU Directives and regulations
  •  One on One problem solving on EU related issues

EurocomConsult, Margot Parker, Thje Courtyard Office, Priory Cottage,

17 Church Walk, Weldon, Northants, NN17 3JX. UK

Email:Margot@eurocom-consult.com 

Tel ++44 (0) 1536 408466,

Fax ++44 (0) 1536 408466

Mobile Cell phone 07977 958 212

To view the site in its original layout CLICK HERE

You will note EUrocom-Consult would seem to be an ‘organisation’ with a one page web site and no visible sign of structure or staff – perhaps Margot Parker is a director and sole trader!

It all looks a bit like an all to typical scam! So redolent of those in which others in UKIP have been deeply involved – enriching themselves at the expense of UKIP!

It will be noted that Mrs. Margot Parker would seem, from the BBC web site, to have NOT stood in Corby in 2010 as otherwise intimated and nor does it seem she stood in any local elections for UKIP!

It is not so much that Mrs. Margot Parker is a Wrong ‘un but that based on UKIP’s track record they have earned no leeway nor the benefit of the doubt when they so frequenly lie, distort of defame their opponents often using the low lifes and pond life from the gutters, who are versed in Internet misrepresentation, passing off and defamatory smears

The moral turpitude of UKIP’s unprincipled and self serving leadership clique and its claque is increasingly transparent protecting their self interest by lies, bullying and defamatory slurs on their supporters should they dare to disagree with the loss of ethical morality or principles within the self serving leadership.

Perhaps it is these steady shifts and lack of both professionalism, integrity and leadership that accounts for UKIP’s consistent failure – It may well underpin the decision of Junius to not bother posting as regularly as they used to in the realisation of the indisputable reality that UKIP have little or no relevance in British domestic politics.

Little wonder that Farage has failed totally to rise to the challenge issued to him by Alan Hardy – just as David Cameron dismissed Farage as irrelevant when challenged by him.

Well to make it easier for Nigel Farage Alan Hardy has made it easier for Farage to win, he has generously increased his offer from 5,000 to 10,000!

It is a measure of UKIP that it makes much of banning individuals for membership of various other Parties yet when it suits Nigel Farage’s personal wishes the rules mean nothing – He has clearly learned much from his time feeding on the EU gravy train, not only about off shore accounts to avoid taxation as with the account he deposited £250,000 to in The Isle of Man but also how to hugely enrich oneself.

That despite a much made of so called ban on various parties let us not forget Farage frequently waves the ban without any democratic process, as with Alan Hardy, Buster Motram and John Petley – whom were at the time of use to him as was his own agent who was ex-BNP!

Nor is Farage above inventing situations so as to attribute membership or allegiance to other parties to people based on fantasy and lies – as with his blanket ban on UKFirst Party and also Dr. Eric Edmond & Dr. David Abbott who he drummed out of UKIP because they valued professionalism, ethics, probity and transparency calling for transparency of accounts and accountability for large sums of money that seemed to have been ‘trousered’ in a dictatorial manner for personal enrichment. To cover this Nigel Farage and his staff concocted a raft of lies even claiming the pretence that there was some sort of attempted BNP takeover of UKIP – A TOTAL fabrication for self publicity and seemingly to cover the apparent theft of £100s of 1,000s some even believe it to have been £Millions!

Dr. Edmond & Dr. Abbot were falsely accused of fronting for the BNP!

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ADDITIONAL 3rd. Party Comment of 30-Aug-2012:

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Geoffrey Collier, who is a very well informed and credible long term supporter of UKIP who clearly wishes to see UKIP cleaned up and made fit for purpose and has worked tirelessly for many years to expose and seek to control the corruption in UKIP has made the following public statement in response to one of UKIP’s low life supporters who function in the leadership claque and are too ashamed of their views, comments and behaviour to put their name to their unpleasant, distorted and dishonest comments sheltering in cowardly anonymity!

Geoffrey Collier stated:
I will endeavour to place my objections to Margot Parker being deemed an ideal candidate for a high-profile by-election.


Petrina is correct, it is impossible to remonstrate against every candidate about whom you have objections to in a G.E.

I will however, mention Margot’s 2009 beliefs, for those have relevance in this new situation.

My objection against Margot Parker rest wholly on political considerations; I have no personal animosity towards her.


UKIP is a ‘withdrawlist’ party which wants Britain to leave the EU.

A commitment to that objective must be the litmus-test by which a candidate’s suitability is judged. That commitment is always important, particularly when it is a closely scruitinised by-election.

That would seem reasonable to most people. Let us, therefore, apply that test to Margot Parker.

Given the opportunituy to join UKIP, in what was a region whose electorate was sympathetic to UKIP, she declined, joining instead Mr Declan Ganley’s Libertas Party. They are committed to the EU, and seek only modifications to existing treaties.

In May of this year, Mr Ganey, albeit no longer chairman of Libertas, said that full integration of the EU, and the creation of a federal structure is what should be realised.

Is that the political culture in which ‘withdrawlists’ are best nurtured?

But that was Margot Parker’s chosen political training-ground.

It is vital that at least our ‘star’ candidates have a history of commitment to the ’cause’; we have been decieved enough by some of them.

In his most interrogative mode, Independent UKIP wishes to know why this is ‘political duplicity of the most grievous kind’:

let us examine the facts, and you decide.

In the 2009 European Parl. Election, Margot Parker was a candidate for the European-friendly Libertas Party.

In the entire East Midlands Region, which comprises several dozen parliamentary constituencies, Libertas obtained collectively just 7,882, votes.

That would provide evidence that her message was not well received, and her talent for garnering votes not of the highest standard. Less than a year later (2010) she was back in public life; old things had passed away and all had become new.


She was now the UKIP candidate for Sherwood;

Margot polled 1.490, votes, a fall of 14.3% from the 2005 UKIP candidate’s vote of 1,737.

The electorate are not entirely stupid, they know when they are being duped.

This lady would make the Vicar of Bray seem like an unswerving ideologue. Such people haven’t demostrated any political talent, consistency or commitment. They would say anything, and we shouldn’t encourage them.

When UKIP attracts ‘converts’ from other parties they are usually lauded and given a fanfare welcome.

We can see why Margot Parker’s political history had to be afforded greater reticence.

All these facts would have been known to the Corby UKIP committee which adopted her: they hardly appear a consortium of intellectual wealth.

Those who have been dedicated for decades to the proposition that Britain should leave the EU, are confronted with such unreliable candidates.

Ambition, ambition, what crimes are committed in thy name.

I would contend this is an absoluterly damning indictment of the corruption endemic in UKIP – made clear by Geoffrey Collier asenior and long serving UKIP member and past chairman of UKIP’s then most profitable and most productive branch in Chichesterr – a view clearly endorsed by Petrina Holdsworth a past chairman of UKIP who quit in disgust at UKIP’s refusal to deal with self serving corruption and fraud in its leadership and senior ranks

It is increasingly obvious that the only supporters of UKIP nowadays are the naiive, those with personal ambitions of gain and the utterly corrupt!

The leadership of UKIP is without exception corrupt and dishonest, taking part in or colluding in various forms of self enrichment and dishonesty in betrayal of these United Kingdoms – seemingly their only informed supporters seek preferment or are already on the gravy train backed by utterly corrupt sock puppets too ashamed to put their name to their odious behaviour!

G.L-W.

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that goal of unanimity in aim!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

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