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#0775* – Anthony Butcher’s Forum Still Hosting Libel?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/04/2012

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A collection of dishonest low lifes acting for UKIP too ashamed of their own behaviour to put their names to their libelous claims and cowardly cyber abuse on behalf of UKIP!

Would anyone of any ethical values want UKIP near ANY lever of power in the light of the dishonesty, corruption and self serving behaviour of the liars, cheats and low lifes they are associated with even NEC members like the sordid Mick McGough and his criminal behaviour and lies and he is far from alone – consider Gerard Batten, Derek Clark, Peter Reeve, Paul Nuttal and other liars and racists and the sick little claque of anonymous cowards and perverts!

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    Funnily, the Junius link to you refer to has been removed by Google under legal advice

    CORRECTION the post has been dishonestly removed to comply with EU internet rules seemingly designed to suppress the truth and it would seem based upon a complaint based not on law but on abuse.

    No error or libel has been identified in EITHER of the postings arbitrarily removed and every statement in the postings is verifiable as FACT.

    . Is it possible that Mr Batten has made Google aware of libels in that post?

    If this is the case as this odious UKIP stooge seems to think it is clearly an abuse of his elected office – just as his recent abuse of his position to waste Police time to seemingly try to suppress facts and the truth about his apparent incitement to racial hatred based upon his personal superstitions and beliefs acting in his own interests counter the superstitions of his own constituents facts he does not wish to be brought to the attention of his electorate.

    However5 just as the fanciful and childish script of the low grade soap opera Fonzie bases his identity on I believe this may well be no more than fiction!

    There is at least a possibility that the unpleasant criminal extremist Gregory Lauder-Frost has misrepresented the clearly verifiable truth in the postings to suppress comment about his odious extremism and criminal record which includes a prison sentence for fraud running to six figures for monies stolen from his employers.


    I believe Mr Lance-Watkins has cut and pasted the offending post on his site

    Since I wrote one of the posts removed perhaps this idiot Fonzie would care to show where the statements of verifiable fact in any way offended.

    – as it’s also run by Google, one might think that will be removed soon.

    Unlikely as it contains no libel but let us face it with the exposure of Google’s blogspot to being .co.UK subject to the corrupt rules of The EU any suppression of truth is likely!

    And not before time too, these people should not be allowed to publish libels freely

    Perhaps having made this libelous accusation the dishonest coward Arthur Fonzerelli might have the integrity to act ethically and put his or her actual identity to their libel as they have failed with absolute 100% track record of failure to EVER identify any libel EVER published by me and presumably they can not identify a libel by Junius or they would have published the details and asked Junius for its correction and apology!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Fonzarelli View Post
    Funnily, the Junius link to you refer to has been removed by Google under legal advice. Is it possible that Mr Batten has made Google aware of libels in that post?

    The link is still live, what are you talking about?

    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.

    Mjolnir is correct that it is impossible to libel by telling the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post

    The link is still live, what are you talking about?

    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.

    If you visit th article you linked to, you will see that the offending text has been removed and replaced by…

    In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed this post. If you wish, you can read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.

    Why do think that has happened Mjolnir?

    As I have shown above the posting was accurate, honest and verifiable on the internet and in public record and has seemingly been unreasonably removed most likely on a dishonest complaint to suppress facts and the truth and opinion that racism and extremism on the part of those written about should be kept from the public! Supported it seems by anonymous low lifes from UKIP!

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    GLW likes to imply the removal was the responsibility of Batten

    I appreciate ethics and honesty are rarely in the lexicon of this anonymous coward thus presumably too ashamed to put their name to their dishonesty – as ever – Oh so very UKIP!

    . GLW, a man pretending to deal with facts, hasn’t so far offered any facts in support of that

    Read my posts on this issue and you will readily establish this to be a dishonest misrepresentation of my comments and the facts led – perhaps the idiotic ‘Independent UKIP’ has overlooked in his rush to defame that it was in fact his co creep Arthur Fonzerrelli who stated the likelihood of the complainant being Gerard Batten, in this thread!

    . The fact that GLF has emailed GLW about responsibility for the Junius blog might lead some to think responsibility lay elsewhere.

    As I pointed out on my blog!


    Arthur appears to be incorrect on one point. The cut and paste by GLW is not from Junius but from the words written in this thread by Mjolnir. So if anyone other than Junius might be in some legal trouble (as opposed to Google trouble) it would be Mjolnir and Anthony Butcher ahead of GLW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    GLW likes to imply the removal was the responsibility of Batten. GLW, a man pretending to deal with facts, hasn’t so far offered any facts in support of that. The fact that GLF has emailed GLW about responsibility for the Junius blog might lead some to think responsibility lay elsewhere.

    Arthur appears to be incorrect on one point. The cut and paste by GLW is not from Junius but from the words written in this thread by Mjolnir. So if anyone other than Junius might be in some legal trouble (as opposed to Google trouble) it would be Mjolnir and Anthony Butcher ahead of GLW.

    Following on from this, Google have removed another post from the Junius site – it appeared to have been uploaded on Thursday – again, the same text appears to explain the articles removal. I believe it was regarding Mr Batten again.

    I think that whoever it is threatening legal advice obviously feels to have a sound case. And should this libel case ever get to court, I am sure that UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths to back up libel claims against the author(s) of that blog. About time too

    We note this odious coward is all too redy to make dishonest claims he is unable to substantiate – Perhaps the odious cowardly creep would care to have the ethics to identify a single solitary libel in ANY of my blogs as he has made the dishonest comment and likewise relative to Junius – However as I and presumably Junius have not sunk to the levels of dishonesty and libel of this UKIP supporter no example or apology will ever be presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.

    Perhaps Batten wants the truth hidden as the panel delberates on the allegations made against him?

    Are you capable of using Google, Fonzie?

    Clearly not with any integrity or honesty hence the liars Fonzie, Independent UKIP and others use anonymity to lie and defame actions which I note neither Mjolnir nor Junius have ever sunk to to my knowledge!

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Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Fonzarelli View Post
I think that whoever it is threatening legal advice obviously feels to have a sound case. And should this libel case ever get to court, I am sure that UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths to back up libel claims against the author(s) of that blog. About time too

Well, if anyone does take Junius to court for libel, they’ll need about £80 – 100,000 for a straightforward case.

Rather a lot of money when one considers NEVER has a libel been identified on Junius’ blog and none has occurred on my blog.


As for “….UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths…”, any idea why they haven’t done that already? Just curious.

Clearly because they have been unable to identify a libel or dishonesty and my blog CLEARLY STATES that I will make ANY material correction of fact brought to my attention and I also offer right of reply to those I publish about.

I note Anthony Butcher is as ever hosting libel and defamatory comments and lies about me on his UKIP controlled blog – from which I was banned, based upon the lies of UKIP and the lies of Paul Nuttall on behalf of Nigel Farage & David Bannerman particularly who wished to suppress facts about them being discussed publicly – just as did Tom Wise as defended by the liar and fantasist douglas Denny, Bob Feel Martinis and other self serving low lifes seeking preferment and status in UKIP.

It will be remembered that Tom Wise was guilty of the criminal behaviour I identified and pursued and served 2 years in prison – strangely Derek Clark who was also ordered to pay back money he had fraudulently obtained (A larger sum than Tom Wise had stolen we understand) has not YET been charged under British law and faced the Courts – possibly in view of his apparent senility!

I note that despite his personal notable political ambitions Anthony Butcher has risen to his metier in the status of utter irrelevance held by a Parish Councillor discussing Dog poo as he does on his parish blog – matters of significance clearly being beyond his authority and his odious self serving dishonesty and obsequious oleaginous comments on the Forum he runs under the control of UKIP, hosting serial attacks and dishonest defamation on behalf of UKIP’s cowardly claque, may in part explain this.

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#0694* – Clarifying UKIP Distortions on behalf of Junius & myself

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/11/2011

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this self serving distortion of facts by one of the many sordid sock puppets of UKIP leadership which post their dishonest lies, fantasies and corrupt propaganda on Anthony Butcher’s corrupt and dishonest UKIP controlled forum – some as muppets of UKIP leadership posting in their own names and some using fake identities to hide their shame – including Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller, Paul Nuttall, Ray Finch, Bob Feel-Martinis, John Ison, Brendan Padmore, Stuart Parr and many others.

The posting hosted in disregard of dishonesty as ever by the corrupt Anthony Butcher  was brought to my attention by members of the JUNIUS team who have asked me to address the dishonesty in detail and expose this latest publication by this odious cowardly underbelly of UKIP corrupt leadership support.

Many of these self serving cowards working with Anthony Butcher use multiple identities and EU computers with rapidly changing ISP addresses and shared identities.

I will address this specific rubbish when I get a chance – distortions and dishonesties similar to those of other cowards such as Skeptyk, Independent UKIP, Defamation Hunter, Arthur Fonzanellie who shelter their corruption in cowardice and shame behind fake IDs.

Probably THE most significant fact in political terms is that some of these people are members of UKIP NEC, some salaried officers and no doubt some actually elected or seeking to feed from the public purse – a reflection on UKIP’s clearly corrupt and self serving leadership is that never once have I been aware or made aware of any member of UKIP leadership making ANY efforrt to surb these lies and distortions and it is clear that bullying and lies are a feature of the management of UKIP.

Imagine what a vile country these United Kingdoms would be if the morality and ethics of UKIP EVER held sway here!

Clearly UKIP leadership and its parasites are examples of shame and not leadership.

I shall Fisk the posting below in the next couple of days so you can consider the responsible truth, which I defend with my name and identity.

You will note that NEVER in many 1,000s of postings has it been shown EVER that I have posted to mislead or in dishonesty – unlike UKIP and its parasites!

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I am in the fortunate position that firstly I am not answerable to any of the toe rags in UKIP leadership’s claque nor do I seek popularity, income, agrandisement or preferment unlike them, nor have I ANYTHING to hide!


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NOT VERY PLAUSIBLE – far more likely to be a retread sock puppet using a false name to distort and defame out of both shame and cowardice.

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A meaningless title – what ‘Real Front’ is it implied The Junius Team are behind?

“BNP front group” is a smear used by Alan ‘sexy’ Harvey.

As this Alan Hardy (Mea Culpa and apologies to Alan Hardy – this should have read Alan Harvey as you can see from Gutter Snipe’s posting quoted immediately above – To find out about Alan Hardy see the right sidebar as he is relevant to UKIP and a member directly approved by Nigel Farage whereas I have no reason to believe Alan Harvey was or is a UKIP member though I understand he has friends and associates who support him within UKIP’s senior members! My thanks for the message pointing out my mistake!) who Street Cleaner seemingly finds ‘sexy’ is not a part of Junius and has never written an article for them nor to their knowledge has he ever spoken with them one wonders at the relevance.

I do clearly state that I understand that like many with an interest in EU related politics it would seem an Alan Hardy (As earlier read Alan Harvey)) HAS written on the comments section of The Junius blog. Then again so have members of UKIP leadership and others including UKIP MEPs & staff!

It was Harvey who was found to be linked to the BNP via Jeffrey Marshall, BNP London Organiser;

What relevance this extensive knowledge of The BNP has to Junius or I I am unsure – though it is noted that UKIP leadership have had and it now seems still have close relations with The BNP:

It is also well publicised that UKIP are associated with extremists, racists, anti Islamists, anti homosexuality and violence in politics even now it seems Gerard Batten has fallen foul of the race laws in these United Kingdoms and is defending his behaviour we understand with the support of UKIP and the express financial support of UKIP aurthorised by Nigel Farage.

Yert again UKIP department of lost causes is squandering member’s money, it seems!

Harvey’s recently fallen out with a member of his ‘Ulster branch’ who is a long-standing BNP member – clearly the BNP membership was not an issue until they fell out.

Clearly no relevance just an attempt to smear Junius and possibly myself by UKIP who seem rightly to be denounced as The BNP in blazers by some!

Readers here will recall that Harvey’s close friend Gary Cartwright tried to get Mike Smith expelled from UKIP over supposed “strong BNP connections”.

Mike Smith many will recal was an odious, bullying and litigious buffoon and as such Gary Cartwright would seem to have acted with some sense on this issue.

Assuming it is the same Mike Smith who committed suicide well over a year ago further details can be found at CLICK HERE

It was Gary Cartwright who had to leave UKIP.

I was under the impression Gary Cartwright quit UKIP over what HE considered to be a point of principle and now works directly for the EU Parliament attached to The Unalligned Group of MEPs and is allocated primarily to Nikki Sinclaire MEP and as such has done a great deal more towards the Leave-The-EU cause than any of UKIP’s sock puppets and most of their self serving parasites.

Amidst Greg Lance Watkins’ denunciation of the Swinton Circle is that it had as a speaker Tom Wise yet omits that Wise employed and was supported by Gary Cartwright, and that Cartwright was also a member of the Swinton Circle.

Yet another cowardly and dishonest statement seeking to smear from UKIP’s cowardly sock puppet.

Read the article the cowardly creep has cited – wher in would be the relevance of this statement relative to Cartwright? Was he a member of The Swinton Circle? It seems this cowardly sock puppet has a fairly intimate knowledge of The Swinton Circle – Personally I couldn’t name a single member though I do note it is seen as an extremist group which has given a platform to Tom Wise, Nigel Farage & Lindsay Jenkins – Tom Wise spoke for them on at least one occassion whilst awaiting trial and sentence to 2 years in prison for stealing from the public purse in abuse of his position of trust!

I KNOW the Swinton Cirlcle provided the platform with full knowledge of Tom Wise’s criminality as before the courts and with Nigel Farage’s encouragement!

In 2009 GL-W was chastising his associate Cartwright for his “support of criminality” claiming it “most clearly undermines [Cartwright’s] credibility”, then rather interestingly comes the sentence “Not an error that I would wish to make nor one I believe any of the contributors to Junius would wish to be associated with” – reads almost like an instruction as if Greg Lance-Watkins is trying to bring the wayward Cartwright into line doesn’t it?

What a desperate attempt to smear – so very typical of UKIP sock puppets and their vile associates.

Firstly Gary Cartwright is NOT an associate of mine nor have I even met him let alone associated with him. Just to dispel the blatant lie.

Secondly I stand by my statement as quoted at CLICK HERE

I will happily reitterate my position that I conside it a VERY poor display of judgement that ANYONE including Nigel Farage or even Crtwright gave succour to the criminal behaviour of Tom Wise who is a particularly unpleasant low life with the morality and ethics of an alley cat!

It is noted Wise was supported by Anthony Butcher, Douglas Denny, Mick McGough, Nigel Farage, Mark Croucher, Roger Helmer and many others, mainly self serving Judas Goats and Plastic EUroSceptics.

Clearly Cartwright’s refusal to toe the line over Wise still rankles as only a few months ago Greg Lance-Watkins stated Cartwright had a “crano rectally retentive attitude to Tom Wise” and that Cartwright’s job while working for Wise was to “try to dupe people”.

Do we take it that the snivelling cowardly Street Sweeper in crawling out of his gutter would claim my statement to be wrong? In mittigation Cartwright WAS employed by Wise and his and his family’s income was dependent on Wise at the time – that makes his actions no less acceptable.

Perhaps GL-W would be able to state if in his opinion Cartwright did a good job duping people, and whether Cartwright’s job for Nikki Sinclaire is also to “try to dupe people”?

The smear attempt is noted but clearly the capacity in which The EU currently employs Cartwright is a matter for Nikki Sinclaire – though he brings with him baggage which I personally consider it was unwise of Sinclaire to take on board as his talents doe seem all too readily subsumed by the low lifes of UKIP who seek to defame Sinclaire!

Curiously, Alan Harvey’s alternative ‘Swinton Circle’ on his Springbok club website which shows previous speakers no longer lists Tom Wise from March 2008 but retains Farage from January 2008; why one and not the other?

Since the cowardly Street Sweeper has such connections and information may I suggest he earns his keep as a butt boy for UKIP and finds out.

I do note that The Springbok Club and The Swinton Circle have been closely associated for many years – After many years based in South Africa actively opposed to appartheid and having resigned from The British Army on a point of principle over partly the issue of colour and my rejection of the fact that The British Army was at the time on standby to enter Rhodesia to promote a racially based position – I take issue with the smears of the guttless and cowards.

Another speaker to the Swinton Circle no longer shown is Bob Lomas – and what’s this? GL-W getting a bit uptight with Junius about the Magna Carta Society! What can it all mean?

It may surprise the cowardly that it means EXACTLY what I posted.

Unlike Street Sweeper I post what I believe to be the facts and will stand by them in a responsible manner, not as a coward posting innuendo and smears behind a cowardly cloak of anonymity!

Anyone wanting further facts is all to welcome to contact me direct as i have ALWAYS been easily contacted, always posted my material in my own name and always been willing to correct any detail that I have posted in error (it has happened, as I recall on 3 occasions and in each was corrected rapidly with apologies – fortunately not one of which was of any material consequence).

Greg Lance-Watkins repeatedly denounces Tom Wise from on high but fails to apply the same standards to his beloved Ashley Mote.

Ashley Mote’s criminality was totally disimilar to the breech of trust in public office and the abuse of access to the public purse made by Tom Wise – as the courts recognised in sentencing where Mote was sentenced to 9 months and Wise to 24! It is also of some note that Ashley Mote was of some value to EUroRealism over a number of years – Wise was corrupt, dishonest and of little use to anyone other than wine merchants it seems – with his long string of failures and non jobs over his life.

Tom Wise betrayed the electorate and the EUroSceptic cause in office representing UKIP, the electorate and these United Kingdoms!

But then Greg Lance-Watkins has no credibility to undermine.

So you may dishonestly claim – yet we note that Street Sweeper’s credibility is such that he is too ashamed to put his name to it!

Astonishingly (or maybe not) the every hypocritical Greg Lance-Watkins

Such a cheap and shoddy claim from a coward too ashamed to put his name to defamation yet unable to cite a single solitary instance of hypocracy with any credible evidence – so very like UKIP and its vile leadership and odious defenders.

denounces the Swinton Circle for (un-proven) BNP links but spectacularly fails to comment on Alan Harvey’s recent link-up with the Canadian “British People’s League” which is run by John Beattie former leader of the Canadian Nazi Party!

Cowardly fool that Street Sweeper is he fails to note I have absolutely no interest in Canadian Politics have considered Alan Hardy an irrelevance of no material consequence based on the little I know of him. I shall leave the gutter sweepings to those best suited in the gutter – this particular Street Sweeper andf his snivelling cowardice.

“More power to your elbow“ Harvey advices Beattie – clearly good advice for anyone who does the fascist salute a lot! Harvey also says he and Beattie “ will work ever closer together” – which based on his past record such as with US Nazi Richard Barrett means he will later develop selective amnesia and deny he ever heard of him.

What is the relevance of this obsession of UKIP with their chums in The BNP and extremist politics to Junius or myself?

So when Alan Harvey and Gary Cartwright’s ‘Swinton Circle’ (aka Springbok Club) next holds a meeting will Greg Lance-Watkins and Junius be rushing to denounce it as a Nazi-linked front group and publish its address? Seems unlikely considering denial forms part of their politics.

Particularly unlikely as I do not follow the antics of these tiny extremist groups.

Hence I am unaware of the membership of the group nor what its splits were.

The relevance of the Swinton Circle was merely due to their providing a platform for senior UKIP leadership and their being seen and quoted by many as yet another extremist group UKIP leadership were associated with.

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How very true and sitting on the pile of garbage that is so clearly represented by this cowardly street sweeper are all too many seeking preferment, placement and self interest within UKIP, its leadership, its parasites and its claque.

Perhaps when the odious Street Sweeper or scum like Independent UKIP, Arthur Fonzanellie and their ilk have the integrity to put their names and IDs to their sordid postings they can explain what this odious low life Street Sweeper was trying to achieve by showing just how dishonest he is!
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#0550* – UKIP As Ever Seem Very Confused – This MAY Help!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/06/2011

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UKIP As Ever Seem Very Confused – This MAY Help!

Little Christopher PALMER Might care to apologise and not so regularly make a fool of himself and UKIP!

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UKIP rarely know what is going in in the Branches, even though there are far fewer to keep tabs on than there used to be!

Christopher Palmer has rather made a pratt of himself stridently attacking niall Warry on UKIP’s Forum as run by the sordid little liar and low life Anthony Butcher whose political career seems to have ended in disaster as a parish busy body sorting out weighty matters like dog fouling and park benches, litter and layabouts!

Just as have the clowns on Ramsey Parish Council – I wonder if wee Anthony has a chain to wear as Mare as he is ridden around or will he have to wait for ‘Buggins’ Turn’!

Christopher Palmer sheltering his sneering behind the childish name of Kitto posts an attack on Niall Warry as Niall had commented on The UKIP Chairman of Gloucester City Mike Smith as he is clearly shown on UKIP Web site AND as many of us have known him to be.

little Palmer has gratuitously promoted some unheard of dweeb from Tiverton & Honiton UKIP Yooof as the new Chairman of UKIP Gloucester.

I think NOT.

Then we have some unheard of fruitcake Christine Wyndham-Thomas best known for her Introductory certificate in the debunked faux science of homeopathy for pets!

Who chunders forth on a Bristol web site that Mike Smith has stood down as chairman of UKIP Gloucester, with absolutely no cross referencing and the claim that the erstwhile PPC for Thornbury & Yate:

Jenny Knight it is claimed has taken over Gloucestershire County – which may come as a surprise to UKIP’s umbrella salesman the duplicitous and underhand Jim Carver. Still listed as FoD & North Gloucester Chairman despite his salaried job as gofer for Wee Willie Dartmouth.

I wonder if Christopher Palmer will be man enough to apologise for his gratuitous sneering or actually establish what significance to Gloucester  little Daryl Stanbury is.
 
I doubt it as neither ethics, integrity or honesty are held in ANY repute in the sleaze filled ranks of UKIP leadership and its parasites and sycophants – as we have all seen writ large!
One would have thought this little knowal of UKIP Yoooof would use his brain occasionally – let us see what his manners are like!

Chris Palmer: The launch of South West YI

I am a member of the newly created South West branch of Young Independence, and after a successful meeting at the UKIP Conference in Torquay, we are pleased to announce that Daryl Stanbury has been elected the Co-ordinator for YI SW. Daryl stood as the UKIP candidate for Tiverton and Honiton – the youngest candidate UKIP fielded – in the 2010 General Election, receiving a respectable 6% of the vote, thus saving his deposit, as well as increasing UKIP’s share of the vote by almost 30% more than the 2005 result.
In Young Independence South West, we want to create a genuine political force for young people from the Isle of Scilly to the Forest of Dean – the South West is one of UKIP’s strongest areas, and in some ways can be seen as the ‘home’ of UKIP as our Head Office is in Newton Abbott. We know that this will be an uphill struggle, as we will be competing with established youth movements from the other parties, as well as a general disenfranchisement with politics. Despite the best efforts of many people in politics, the majority of young people just aren’t interested!
However, we feel that UKIP can be the ones to offer REAL change – the change young people want to see. As well as repeating the message of withdrawal from the European Union, which attracts people of all ages, we want Young Independence to be a political force campaigning for individual freedoms, civil liberties, a smaller state, less taxes, and a fairer deal for young people whether they be in education or employment.

For the record:

It does look as if Christopher Palmer got this wrong!
It does look as if Daryl Stanbury is merely a chairman within UKIP Yooof
Clearly he was GE PPC for Tiverton & Honiton NOT Gloucester.
UKIP WEB SITE IS UNEQUIVOCAL:Chairman: Mike Smith82 Marlborough Road
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The chairman of Tiverton & Honiton is:
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I knew Mike Smith when I was UKIP Chairman of Cheltenham and he was Chairman of Gloucester (as he still is).

He was always totally pro UKIP and would not accept Nigel and his cabal were harming UKIP.

So for him to now publicly point out UKIP is EUKIP is important turn about.

Also better late than never and lets hope he is one of many worms that start turning.

Read Junius below on this:-

Junius on UKIP: UKIP Snippets: Mike Smith on Pan-European parties & Stuart Agnew’s hypocrisy

Mike Smith is not the Chairman of the Gloucester branch, Daryl Stanbury is.
1. Taunton Deane Home Page (Somerset/Taunton Deane Association/Taunton Deane Association/Home)
…  Efforts have been made to contact Daryl Stanbury (YI SW)  but as yet he has not responded. Treasurer:  The Treasurer reported in detail on the Annual Accounts, including expenditure on supporting the …

2. St. Ives & IOS UKIP Branch AGM update (Cornwall/St Ives and the Isles of Scilly/St Ives and the Isles of Scilly/News)

…  Chairman Stuart Guppy welcomed speakers Stephanie McWilliam (Chair of Cornwall Chairman Committee), Daryl Stanbury, Gloucester SW Chairman Young Independence and Chris Palmer Plymouth SW Vice-Chairman. …

3. St. Ives & IOS Branch 2011 AGM (Cornwall/St Ives and the Isles of Scilly/St Ives and the Isles of Scilly/Events)

… 2011 7.30 pm The Lugger Hotel Penzance Promenade Speakers: Stephanie McWilliam UKIP Cornwall Chairman Chris Palmer Plymouth  SW Young Independence Daryl Stanbury Gloucester …

4. AGM St. Ives & IOS (Cornwall/St Ives and the Isles of Scilly/St Ives and the Isles of Scilly/Events)

…  Chris Palmer (Plymouth) (UKIP  SW Youth Independence) Daryl Stanbury (Gloucester) (SW Chairman Youth Independence) We are delighted to welcome Chris & Daryl to tell us about the thriving …

5. Daryl Stanbury, YI SW Chairman (Devon/Tiverton and Honiton/Tiverton and Honiton / Home)

Daryl Stanbury   Daryl is the first Chairman of the newly formed Young Independence South West group.        …

6. South West Young Independence (News/Regional News)

  South West Young Independence have elected Daryl Stanbury as their Chairman/Coordinator   Following the successful launch of Young Independence in the South West at the Torquay conference, Daryl …

7. News (Dorset/Poole/Poole/News)

… on the link to find out more http://www.youngindependence.org/ or email daryl.stanbury@live.co.uk for details.  …

8. Campaigning at Tiverton Market (Devon/Tiverton and Honiton/Tiverton and Honiton / News)

UKIP have said they have the only General Election Candidate to vote for in Tiverton & Honiton, Daryl Stanbury, if you want to leave the EU. Ken Gilderthorp and Alan Marks campaign at the Tiverton …
It would of course be pleasant to see a clear apology from Christopher Palmer in his own name rather than too ashamed to use it.

Sadly Anthony Butcher seems all too willing to harbour liars, cheats, low lifes and defamatory comments with absolutely no interest in the truth.

Anthony Butcher is clearly a dishonest, corrupt and cowardly little chap which may well explain his serial failures in politics currently holding a position as busybody on a parish council! For all his sycophancy and dishonesty.

Regards,

Greg L-W.

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#0385* – UKIP POISON DRIBBLES OUT ON THE FORUM THEY CONTROL

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/03/2011

#0385* – UKIP POISON DRIBBLES OUT ON THE FORUM THEY CONTROL
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
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UKIP POISON DRIBBLES OUT ON THE FORUM THEY CONTROL!
The likes of Mick McGOUGH, Skeptyk, Independent UKIP and such scum in UKIP’s septic tank!

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Hi,

having been out almost all day I had a quick look at Junius and as a result on the squalid little Forum Anthony Butcher runs which is controlled by UKIP and hosts many of their lies and liars.

I heard last week from contacts in The EU, that another member was leaving the sordid racist and anti Jewish Pan EU Political EFD Group this I published on a clearly speculatory basis on this blog as any resignation would need to be registerd this week to ensure their position was clear and they gained control of their 4000 budget, their 6000 budget and they were allocated a new seat in the parliament – the next date this will be possible from memory would be July!

These matters have to be tied in to a pleniary session.

As noted the identity was no certainty but once Mick McGough confirmed the rumours to seemingly try to smear Nikki Sinclaire it started to become more clear!

Junius then posted information  and Skeptyk, unable to miss an opportunity to reveal their personality and be unpleasant then claimed that at least one person leaving was, they believed, Trevor Colman who was one of those I speculated may leave. It seems that on the strength of the leaks Junius has gone firm on Trevor Colman at long last acting ethically.

Unless further information comes to hand it does seem that Skeptyk’s information may well be correct as it does confirm what I heard from The EU last week. I presume his letter will have been presented at the parliament earlier today and there may yet be one or more further individuals who have decided to act ethically but to be honest I doubt it as I do not think Andreasen has managed to get the deal she wants yet and neither Bufton nor Batten have as yet shown any kind of ability to stand on their own feet AS YET.

Skeptyk also made a fool of themselves with another comment:

Having said that, I haven’t had Trevor’s resignation confirmed yet. If it’s true, can we expect apologies from Junius and GLW for their allegations that TC was a bent copper and that he took a bung to stay in the EFD

Also given Mike Nattrass‘ total exoneration from OLAF, can we also expect apologies from Junius and GLW for alleging impropriety on Nattrass’ part?

I doubt it but we live in hope…

Idiot that Skeptyk is clearly I can not speak for Junius but I understand that Junius has never claimed that Trevor Colman is a Bent Copper and if you check I believe it was I who branded him just another bent ex copper – by which of course I am perfectly prepared to stand based on the factual evidence provided at the time.

Indeed it was brought to the attention of the police at the time but as they said ‘as far as we are concerned he is just an ex copper and of no relevance’ – that his behaviour has been corrupt is clearly undeniable based on the evidence and facts.

No Skeptyk, unlike you as a man of honour not only do I make a habit of telling the truth but I check my facts and will stand by my comments – dishonesty, corruption, smears and pure unsubstantiable lies and bile are your metiere. In all your years of making a complete fool of yourself making false allegations and seeking to defame based on misrepresentation – to date you have faile miserably to establish a single solitary untruth that I have EVER published to mislead people not a single lie that I have told yet time and again you seek to defame based on YOUR lies and misrepresentation and your sordid blogs, which I am told are childish and obsessive (I do not read the drivel and rarely read your lies and half truths on Butcher’s squalid UKIP Forum as your opinion is so clearly of nil value and rarely accurate).

To the matter of Mike Nattrass – again I can not speak for Junius but obviously as I checked my facts as presented I have not a word to apologise for regarding Mike Nattrass.

When I made the statement that Mike Nattrass was under investigation clearly and accurately I provided the facts available and stated the truth.

Currently I hear that Mike Nattrass has, subsequent to the quotes of fact I made, claimed he was NOT under investigation by OLAF. On checking I found that to be an untruth.

I understand laterly he has claimed that he has a letter from OLAF stating they are taking no further action against him – I ‘presume’ this is akin to a Scottish not proven verdict. I have no reason to believe that OLAF has issued a letter that has exhonourated and absolved him from the irrefutable fact that he was, when I wrote of the matter, under investigation by OLAF.

For more FACTS CLICK HERE

I neither make, nor should I, an appology for having stated the truth and IF Mike Nattrass has been absolved of any wrong doing and he wishes to supply a copy of the letter from OLAF stating he was wrongly investigated then I will most happily publish said letter to bring the matter up to date.

I fear it does rather LOOK as if the matter has been dropped for lack of evidence and without written clarification there is every reason to believe that is the case.

We note that prior to Skeptyk’s assinine comments Junius had published their belief that the OLAF inquiry of Mike Nattrass had been dropped.

It is little wonder that The Sunday Times stood by their report and published, as accurate at the time and also that Skeptyk is too ashamed of their behaviour to put their names to the garbage they publish.

Skeptyk, having published so many beligerent dishonesties any ethical Forum would have placed their name in the public domain and barred them from posting.

Whilst on the matter of cowardice and outright dishonesty perhaps Bob Feel Martinis might care to consider his habitual stupidity where his latest ill informed maunderings were:

Oh dear nothing changes here. Posts without substance designed to create another spat. It seems I haven’t missed much.

He does so consistently make a fool of himself, he so consistently misses almost everythin due it seems to innate stupidity and his lies are legion. The idiotic Blob posted his inane comment long after Mick McGough’s apparent attempt to smear Nikki Sinclaire at 21:15hrs the previous day and well over an hour after Skeptyk had at 16:58hrs. provided the identity of the individual leaving The EFD and in fact after Junius had given further details at 17:09hrs.

Then we have the unpleasant little coward Independent UKIP who also is too ashamed to put their name to their vile AND consistently false efforts to defame and denigrate me – as with:

Should be interesting to see which CIB members stand up in solidarity with filth merchant Greg Lance-Watkins. They will certainly shame CIB if they do so. Will Junius be naming them? Perhaps I should pop along.

Perhaps from his repertoire we might find this egregious piece of human excrement prepared to put his name to his dishonesties.

To date, as a coward with some 4,000 postings, he has spectacularly failed to give an example to back his dishonesties about me, vituperative little inadequate that he is.

It is astonishing that every so often some fool asks why I never joined UKIP – Surely just one look at the odious people who as parasites feed on its corpse, it would be all too obvious. I do not, nor have I ever associated with such dishonourable filth by design or desire and I am all too aware one is judged by the company on keeps – why would anyone wish to be associated with such dishonourable and dishonest people?
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#0384* – UKIP May Value The Liar Mick McGOUGH But They Are Alone!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/03/2011

#0384* – UKIP May Value The Liar Mick McGOUGH But They Are Alone!
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UKIP May Value The Liar Mick McGOUGH But They Are Alone it seems in requiring his vile support!

What a sad reflection on UKIP that they harbour such excrement stacked alongside the rest in their odious claque!!

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Hi,

I was interested to note that Mick McGough – never renowned for his intelligence, has leaked some information he has. Hardly surprising.

Richard Allen is a moderator on Butcher’s sordid UKIP controlled Forum and a Branch Chairman. He clarified a posting made by Tim originally.

I note Mick McGough has been, as ever, making something of a fool of himself trying to establish identities!

He seems to think that a group of UKIP MEPs are about to show some integrity and disassociate themselves from The EFD – This would NOT be a surprise as there is much disgust at the vile nature of The EFD – however Mick McGough seems to confirm this as a member of the NEC and then rather foolishly and transparently try to smear Nikki Sinclaire with having leaked the information.

THIS LEADS ME TO BELIEVE: That like the Gerard Batten smears attempted recently, this could be a part of what seems to be Nigel Farage’s PR campaign that costs, it seems, around £1/4 Million a year to operate such smear campaigns – you will remember the ones orchestrated by Annabelle Fuller and Mark Croucher in the past that so clearly brought UKIP and Nigel Farage in particular into disrepute!

Everyone is aware that to try to build bridges and help UKIP Nikki Sinclaire has set aside the verdict of Guilty against Nigel Farage, Godfrey Bloom and UKIP recently obtained, and by doing so is saving UKIP many £1,000s in costs plus the probability of a massive damages claim against them.

Steve Crowther having failed to get Mike Nattrass to renege on his own integrity and rejoin The EFD now has to find some kind of compromise acceptable to Sinclaire – That Farage won’t sabotage. He has until 11-Apr-2011 when Mike Nattrass has been summonsed to appear before the Court of Clowns (UKIP NEC!)

Might Mick McGough’s leak be designed to smear Sinclaire?

A smear to give Farage a way to sabotage any agreement Crowther may reach, as clearly Farage & McGough have much in common both as drinking budies and a lack of Officer Qualities needed for leadership – McGough has a track record as a liar willing to cheat his colleagues CLICK HERE & HERE

For the record: besides the castigation by Jim Franklin of UKIP due to Mick McGough I gather that members have left The CIB due to its association with this vile little man. He is, much to the shame of The Freedom Association their representative on The CIB having failed some time ago to get a place of his own!

Quote Originally Posted by Richard Allen View Post
He didn’t say it would be bad for UKIP.  

Mick McGOUGH said:
He said it would be bad for Nigel and the EFD.

I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT RICHARD,pray tell us.I infer that some party or MEPs are about to leave the EFD and that you know this by being close tp Nikki etc.

come on make Timmy’s/JKohnboy’s day !

Who Timmy or JKohnboy are I haven’t a clue but it seems so sadly important to this inadequate little creep McGough!

Oh by the way for information – being aware of exactly who owns and who has influence in The Express and their family relationship with a UKIP member I can make a pretty good guess at the foundations of the present blog afair with Flynn – there is no doubt Farage is an excellent performing monkey and a beguilling personality well able to dupe a jopurnalist – it is his judgement, self serving nature and lack of leadership ability that cause such problems.

Imagine using someone as thick and dishonest as McGough to try to orchestrate a smear campaign!  It will be interesting to see if The EFD does start losing members over the next few days – it is likely as I understand there is only a certain window in which resignations can be placed on Jezyk Buzek’s desk relative to a pleniary The Brussels Plenary ended last week and as I recal there is a week’s grace – hence my earlier speculations that Junius and then Tim picked up on it seems!

I can’t see why Sinclaire would know about this, other than via a deliberate attempt to smear her name, as it would be a matter for those leaving and Buzek, and of course Farage, as it is his personal income and control that will be effected.

Since Sinclaire didn’t stay on to sign in on Friday she probably wouldn’t know anyway as Mike Nattrass was not in The Parliament last week and Siclaire refuses to associate with The EFD trash. My contact did not see her on Friday and I gather she had thje weekend off apart from a scheduled TV interview earlier today, which i presume went ahead but am unlikely to find out about until Tuesday.

Unless of course there is some announcement on the members’ Forum that isn’t removed quickly enough to suit the censors!

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#0349* – UKIP & The Maggots That Hide There

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/03/2011

#0349* – UKIP & The Maggots That Hide There
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UKIP & The Maggots That Hide There!
Sheltering their personalities and lies in cowardly anonymity!
Unable to support or sustain their lies & endlessly befouling UKIP!

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Hi,

in the light of more lies and dishonesty from the filth that gathers on the UKIP controlled Forum owned and run for them by Anthony Butcher I found it apposite to post the following on Junius‘ Blog relative to Gerard Batten MEP:

Hi,


it is sad to see the pond life that support UKIP who are too ashamed to identify themselves on Anthony Butcher’s squalid little UKIP contolled forum such that Independent UK for instance could not even differentiate between the type of smears from Farage’s Press Office, leadership team & staff akin to this recent attack on Gerard Batten


& the statements of fact in my own name that I am happy to substantiate:


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Let us not rehearse the corrupt and dishonest behaviour, yet again, of people like:
Douglas Denny, Andrew Smith, Derek Clark MEP, Gerard Batten MEP, Marta Andreasen MEP, Godfrey Bloom MEP, Mark Croucher, Trevor Coleman MEP, Paul Nuttall MEP, Gawain Towler, John Ison, Peter Reeve, Lisa Duffy, Clive Page, David Lott, George Curtis, David Bannerman MEP, Malcolm Wood, Mike McGough, Hugh Williams etc.They really are scum – no more than political flotasam and jetsome on the make and the take!

Liars, dissemblers, corrupt, incompetent fantasists – self seeking and self serving without morality.

You will find much more detail about these ‘slimes’ and low lifes who have so betrayed our Country for their gain, if you use either the >SEARCH< box in the right hand sidebar or the hot links supplied below it.<<

This is the actual text CLICK HERE rather than the cowardly selection deliberately made to mislead by Independent UKIP and harboured by the dishonourable and dishonest Anthony Butcher


Of being dishonest I note the slime who hide in anonymity – I do NOT support anonymity as usually it is the territory of the liar, the cheat and the coward however I do turn a blind eye to those on Junius knowing who they are and why.


At least Junius, like I, have NEVER been proven to have deliberately misled ANYONE nor told a consequential untruth.


Would that the same could be said of the liars with Anthony Butcher!


Regards,
Greg_L-W.

The gaggle of ingrates on Butcher’s Forum clearly excel themselves at the moment endlessly showing up UKIP for just how vile its leading supporters are and how staggeringly stupid as they lend their support to the scum of EUropean politics in The EFD Group just to make money for a favoured few!

18 years on and UKIP still has no visible signs of sentient political nouse – no competent leadership, a succession of CEOs or like named clowns who have prooved either an embarrassment or near invisible.

Policy documents that are ill spelt, ungrammatical and look like discards from the school 6th. form political class year end test!

If one read and believed a fraction of the drivel from UKIP you could fund EVERYTHING with the £50 Million a day saved from leaving the EU!! Oh really? Well what about the £120,000,000 a day in interest to sustain the £4.8 Trillion debt the last government after 13 unlucky years left these United Kingdoms with?
18 Years and UKIP is not one fraction closer to achieving anything whatsoever of note other than more stories of drunken whoring and infantile insults drifting back from Brussels.

What EXACTLY is UKIP’s vision – what are they aiming for and what is their path to it?

What is the Strategy and where is any sign of Tactics?

Perhaps after 18 years we the genuine supporters of UKIP, who in our own names and with our own unfunded efforts seek to try to make UKIP electable by exposing its shortcomings – we do fall into the same trap as UKIP at times pointing out what is wrong with the structure and people, as they do with The EU!

By now everyone with ANY political contacts is well aware that UKIP leadership team, their remaining MEPs and the parasites gathered around them are unfit for purpose – almost any purpose! So very like the EU as many of us point out!

18 years and UKIP is not one step closer to Westminster having just put almost £30 pounds per vote into hetting a risible 2,500 or so votes in Oldhan and with a turnout of 1/3rd. in Barnsley also with 2,500 or so votes although second being over 10,000 votes behind the winner despite having the usual 4% of the electorate loyally turnout to vote for UKIP.

Do take note of Paul Goodmann when he showed UKIP to be not so much Anti EU but just Anti CLICK HERE Mr. Goodmann clearly has a point if one reads the unsubstantiated and unsustainable vituperative dribblings of the like of Skeptyk, Baron von Fullofhimself, Douglas Denny, the liar and cheat Mick McGough, Mark Croucher, the foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller of Athena-PR etc., William Shaw, Independent UKIP, KrisH, Richard Allen, Tom Wilde, Brendan Padmore etc. all of whom are happy to lie and dissemble with their accusations, yet none of whom seems able to show a wit of proof of any consequence to bolster their lies yet undettered they dribble on.

After 18 years and the many £Millions that UKIP has squandered to enrich a few even the very simplest of basic tasks are clearly beyond them – 18 Years and they have not the slightest vestige of an Exit & Survival strategy – no clear tactics and have managed not to explain in any serious terms why these United Kingdoms would be better off out of The EU.

Is it any wonder that after 18 years they still have less than 30 individuals elected to public office out of some 19,500 available seats.

The greatest achievement in Britain of which they boast is that they have beaten the BNP on a few occasions – Might that be by emulating them and co-operating with the racists, anti Jewish, anti homosexual scum of The EU whilst stirring race hysteria about some 1,800 Muslim women out of the 60-70M people in this Country who wear The Hijab.

If wearing the Hijab is so great a slight on women and such a control of them perhaps the idiotic placeman Malcolm Pearson and his cotterie of nebishes would care to read of the ladies in Egypt who despite wearing these garments of oppression have recently done what UKIP has failed to do – Overthrow a grossly unlpeasant and profligate regime acting in its own interest.

As with this redoubtable young lady:

Ms. Alaa Al Siddiq who at 22 is a leader of the democratisation movement sweeping the Arab world her street IS the Arab street of UAE as you may care to read CLICK HERE

Now just as a consideration I wonder if William Shaw would be man enough to use his own name of Butcher’s squalid UKIP forum, are the dishonest slime who post as Skeptyk with their 1,660 unsubstantiated smears, lies, vituperative dishonesty and desperate spin willing to identify themselves and put their names to their own postings – as with Baron,  Independent UKIP and the restof the self serving dross.

If you are too cowardly to put your name to your lies in an OPEN playing field sheltering where you can attack people dishonestly denied the right to respond then like the maggots you are crawl away and be of service to these United kingdoms whilst those of us who seek to make UKIP electable continue our task as Patriots – seeking nothing for ourselves but a future for those who come after us, todays and tomorrows children.
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#0323* – ‘UKIP official implicated in theft and passing of stolen property’

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/03/2011

#0323* – ‘UKIP official implicated in theft and passing of stolen property’
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Anthony BUTCHER’s Squalid British Democracy Forum acting for UKIP states:
‘UKIP official implicated in theft and passing of stolen property’ !!

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1.     Today 08:57 AM #1
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DefaultUKIP official implicated in theft and passing of stolen property.
Below is the text from the head of an e-mail sent by UKIP’s John Ison. The content of the e-mail included scans of a large number of documents that had been kept in the offices of Nikki Sinclaire MEP. The documents included private telephone bills, staff contracts and pay statements, as well as other confidential papers. The dates on some of the documents, and indeed the date of the e-mail, strongly suggest that Ison had copied them long after he ceased to work for the MEP. How he was able to obtain access to her offices without authorisation is now a matter for others to determine.

Whilst Ison has long been under suspicion, and is known to the police already in this matter, it is enlightening to see to whom this stolen information was passed.

The address ‘winballpizard@yahoo.co.uk’ belongs to Mark Croucher.

> —–Original Message—–
> From: John P Ison [mailto:tb10@aol.com]
> Sent: 19 April 2010 10:14
> To: ‘winballpizard@yahoo.co.uk’
> Subject: Download this NOT the others!!
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Need I say more at the moment – I think not!

 

Looks like the thief John Ison in total lack of trust relative to his position of trust as a staff member and I gather in betrayal of a personal friends for his own gain and now it seems colluding in a scam with Nigel Farage and The News of The World to publish a completely untrue story about an MEP for his own gain-  and no doubt as an act of vengeance having been caught stealing and spared after an impressive ACT of tears now has again betrayed those who were foolish enough to trust this clearly untrustworthy little creep.

I would have thoughht there is probably no more notable stupidity than trying to con a National Newspaper with a readership of a claimed 7,000,000 or so Guy Basnett tells me! I am surprised that Nigel Farage has exposed himself to involvement which is I am reliably informed is provable!


Minded that Anthony Butcher is always dishonest and will jump through any hoop UKIP wish I have every reason to believe this posting will be ordered removed by UKIP PR when they see it – you will note the risible outrage of Skeptyk and their latest sock puppet already!

That someone as dishonest as consistently as Skeptyk is still allowed to post on the Forum speaks volumes for the standard of integrituy of Anthony Butcher and his minions.

To cast a timeous bon mote so very redollent:

“Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud.”
— Sophocles
(c 497/6 BC – 406/5 BC) Greek playwright

The dishonourable and the scum of the earth seek to win every point in every argument and impress themselves in their own shaving mirror, but the honourable man seeks to make his point with truth honourably, aware that Sophoclese is remembered 2,500 years later when the trash and parasites spinning, weaving and lying for UKIP’s corrupt leadership are merely nebishes and hirelings forgotten in their own lunch times – Many so ashamed of their own behaviour they skulk in anonymity using the weak and the gullible as sock puppets to lie for them, to weave their webs of deceit.
Prostitutes to the income and the personal gain whilst Patriots take the assaults in insults in defence of honour and these United Kingdoms.

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#0315* – UKIP WALES SEEMINGLY IN COLLAPSE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/03/2011

#0315* – UKIP WALES SEEMINGLY IN COLLAPSE!  
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP WALES SEEMINGLY IN COLLAPSE!
NOWHERE is there ANY PUBLICITY, COMMENT, GUIDANCE or DATA on The Referendum Relative To The EU Regional Ass Vote For More Power!

THE VOTE IS THIS THURSDAY!
DOES UKIP WALES KNOW!!!

What Is Their Position?

It Is A Bit Late For Strategy, Vision, Tactics or Comment!

UKIP CLEARLY HAS NO LEADERSHIP – Its Drunk, With a Whore or In Finland!!

OR ALL 3!  SO MUCH FOR Athena-PR!

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Hi,

earlier this evening a friend phoned me regarding the collapse of UKIP in Wales so I read The Junius article at CLICK HERE I gather Tim had flagged it up on Anthony Butcher’s squalid little Forum where the usual liars and low lifes like Skeptyk, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller, Gawain Towler, John Ison, Mike McGough and the like loiter to spread their fanciful bile under their own names and various pseudonyms too ashamed of what they write to put their name to it.

UKIP really does have some revolting scum that has floated to the top in the leadership team and its parasites to be sure – they rather came unstuck last week on MumsNet and it ended up with Nigel Farage having to try to disown them rather implausibly since his own staff were phoning members to get them to sign up on MumsNet to try to rescue him!

Even so Farage got something of a thrashing out of his comfort zone trying to deal with genuine people and members of the public see: CLICK HERE

Back to Wales and you will note that contra the lies of Septyk and his cotterie of creeps Tim did NOT seek to take advantage of John Bufton’s serious ill health regardless of the vile spin from Tom Wilde desperately trying to point score.

In fact read Tim’s comments for yourself and you will see how dishonest the clones are. Read the Junius article and you will note it starts out with well wishes for Bufton’s recovery – astonishingly something that has not occured anywhere on Anthony Butcher’s squalid forum nor on UKIP’s main web site – nor in fact on UKIP Wales’ site. In fact I even checked The UKIP members’ Forum and noticed no well wishes there even  before falling asleep, with its lack of content of any interest (it is so over managed it looks like something  Aldous Huxley would write about – amateur censorship run riot!).

Taking a closer look at The Junius blog I note they have cross referenced their comments to aid the UKIP reader in understanding the plight of UKIP Wales and have reasonably commented WITH links to clarify their opinions.

Trust the vile scum of UKIP on the sordid UKIP run Forum to try to make capital of the issue and I note Paul Wesson was also disgusted and locked the thread!

By all means read the details on John Bufton and the plight of Wales as at when this article was written CLICK HERE

During the last couple of hours whilst listening to a play on the radio I have been hunting around for more information!

UKIP Wales web site seems to have ground to a halt and I couldn’t find anything they had loaded since Christmas but they have a weak RSS feed that clearly requires no maintenance and is not very relevant to UKIP Wales.

When you consisder that UKIP Wales’ one MEP is costing tax payers £2.59 Million and John Bufton has a salary of around £80,000 not to mention £280 a day just to sign in – even on a scam like Fridays as The Despatches programme made very clear when he was accused of ripping off the system and his best answer was ‘well thats the system’ or some such. Being an intelligent, nimble footed, leading politician it only took him weeks to invent a better excuse!

I note the last entry on his UKIP Wales web site would seem to be in November last year!

One would have thought even the £76,000 he receives under the 4000 budget, which seems unaccounted, would have funded a stand in whilst he recovered, couldn’t he use the £1,000s he gets for travel outside the EU on the 6000 budget as that too never seems to be accounted though I hear it is used for bribes by Nigel Farage to keep racists, xenophobes, anti Jewish and violent anti homosexuals on his EFD Group – maybe the £211,000 he spends on staff could have covered for him but it seems not.

You will also note there is so little activity in Wales, other than a vituperative little piece of filth from Barry who poisinously attacks people on Butcher’s dishonest and squalid UKIP controlled Forum – when not attacking elderly and loyal patriots who have served UKIP well, from their own pocket, over many years.

I appreciate that John Bufton, who made much of what he was going to donate to get elected, has so far it seems merely contributed the sum total of the equivalent of fiddling 3 Friday sign ins!

It does depressingly look as if UKIP couldn’t give a damn if John Bufton lives or dies – there is both no good wishes nor any effort to assist him in this period of medical plight – The few genuine UKIP members that have remained in the party must be truelly disgusted.

Is this the way UKIP would Govern if ever elected to anything with complete disinterest, total lack of loyalty and set about squabbling and back biting.

Decent UKIP members (IF there are any left) must be so ashamed and embarrassed – would UKIP run a health service that couldn’t care less? Have they shown ANY signs of Social Care regarding John’s wife or young son?

There is clearly no contingency plan as can be seen by the indifference and the inactivity.

To all intent and purpose UKIP has collapsed and all that the filth supporting the failed UKIP Leadership can do is attack and castigate Junius and Tim for having raised the issue – Talk about stupid, have they not realised how idiotic and vile they seem to onlookers endlessly sheltering their vile personalities behind false names and anonymity whilst rolling in the gutter to point score.

Let me make it VERY clear that I wish John Bufton a speedy recovery and I hope it has not put too great a starin on his wife and son – may I suggest that he puts his ambition and greed behind him and takes a long hard look in the mirror and asks himself two questions:

01. Why am I doing this when it is clear I am utterly incompetent to acquit my duty to the electorate?

02. Will the money buy me a better view in the cemetery?

Good luck – because lets face it UKIP leadership are unlikely to come to your funeral and clearly they are not prepared to wish you well in public or help out in your region!
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#0253* – Ian GILMAN of UKIP NEC Casts a Little Light on UKIP CRIMINALITY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/01/2011

#0253* – Ian GILMAN of UKIP NEC Casts a Little Light on UKIP CRIMINALITY! .
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! .
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name! .
Ian GILMAN of UKIP NEC Casts a Little Light on UKIP CRIMINALITY!
Ian GILMAN Exposes some details re: Tom WISE UKIP MEP,
as he remembers them!

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Hi,

To QUOTE Ian Gilman re: Tom Wise UKIP MEP jailed for his criminality for 2 years – you may make what you will of Ian Gilman’s statement regarding Tom Wise and UKIP leadership corrupion amongst its leadership and their parasites in betrayal of the many decent members:

The case of the corrupt and jailed former police officer and UKIP M.E.P. Tom Wise Esq. again raises its head.
In October 2005; I was the only NEC member to attempt to do something about Mr. Wise following publicity and gossip about his activities. I was systematically blocked and prevented.
Minutes from that NEC should show my perhaps twenty minutes of effort on behalf of the members who we claimed to protect.
Abuse was heaped upon me together with shouted requests that I must be “shut up”.
Frauds were explained that would cause the Inland Revenue and Police to investigate and jail numerous UKIP members if revealed, and I being perhaps ‘jointly and severally liable’ for matters that I knew nothing about decided to step aside. Why after all; should I be responsible for others crimes as described ?
I was a volunteer for 15 years who asked for and took nothing from ukip, only satisfaction that I and others believed that we were doing our duty by our country and its history.
Please refer to the thread last August ‘ Bloom blast for shoplifters’ to understand much that I am writing about. It will prevent repitition. Mr . Denny provoked the defence of my position.
In attempting to actually discipline Mr. Wise who had for example destroyed the legitimate NEC approved ‘UKIP Wine World ‘ (conceived by me to assist paying our General Election debts of £ 93,000) from which no monies can be identified despite Mr Wise describing his importation and storage of 1,000 bottles of fine wines ( a commercial quantity ) perhaps from The Lebanon and his friends vineyard then sales via ukip meetings and membership lists; I was opposed with such venamence as to realise that I had no place any longer at that table.
Further; the dark threats emanating from that meeting indicated that eventually matters affecting the volunteer membership , many of whom were/are pensioners and our funds would legitimatly cause some to be jailed or fined.
My legalally constituted UKIP Wine World (named by me) involved proper Customs & Excise paperwork, sales sheets/distribution sheets and monthly payments electronically to UKIP H.Q.
It would satisfy the treasurer/auditor/Electoral Commissioners/Customs& Excise.
Concerning Mr. Colman’s enquiry; I wonder if his terms of reference were drawn so narrow so as to preclude most of that which was actually relevant.
I was never requested to give evidence; despite speaking to Mr Colman about matters.
Incredibly, when Mr Wise was referred to British Police his home force Beds. was given the task.
Why ?
Traditionally the Metropolitan police handle such cases.
With the close association that Mr. Wise had with Beds police as described by him; why did they not immediately hand over to another force the case which broke in 09/05 and concluded in 11/09 !
I will now quote directly from the file as originally constructed / evidence bagged and numbered and signitures upon a legal statement identifying its existance for identification. Later as far as I understood it should have all been contained within the file named Regina v Thomas Harold Wise. This will be held by Beds. police, C.P.S., Southwark Crown Court and I gather The Justice Dept. The Home Office and aparently Number 10 Downing Street.
“Wise explained to ***** all about his frauds /embezzlements of public money…..”
“Wise had not only explained his frauds, he then explained that he is safe from prosecution”
“Wise claimed to have lots of contacts within Bedfordshire Police, including “high up contacts “, whatever that means “
Wise, stated *****, claims to enjoy protection and will not be prosecuted.”
“Wise claimed to have met and talked with The Chief Constable of Beds. “
“Wise claims to have visited Beds Police H.Q. and spoken with those who would investigate him and to have been assurred that he will not be investigated “.
” ***** invoked the social life/circle of Wise who enjoys a drinking / eating circle of greedy sycophants who probably patronise The Ship public house in Linslade, Leighton Buzzard Beds ( Wing Road in fact maybe 200 yards around from his house ) . Excess of indulgance evidently being the motivating factor. “
“Wise likes to invoke the fact that he is a former police officer “
“Wise gave to former Detective Superintendent Trevor Colman of Devon and Cornwall Police a statement early in 2006 admitting everything yet is confident that he cannot be prosecuted”
Thus in fact Mr Wise evidently labourd in the belief that he was immune.
So, where did this leave the hapless witnesses ?
Detective Chief Superintendant Miss Debbie Simpson headed Beds police Economic Investigation Unit.
We are told that she is ‘partnered’ and that her ‘partner’ was found employment there too.
Her partner was a police officer in Beds.
Her partners father is explained as a previously a Beds police Superintendant.
He is married to the previous Chief Constables Secretary.
The Chief Constables secretary has hourly and daily access to The Chief Constable who the reader will see from the above direct quotes from the file as originally constructed is described as rather too close to the defendant.
Nothing is implied by the above, only reported facts are written. Without Prejudice.
Why, oh why did Beds Police not hand this case over to another force ?
Surveillance by me due to concerns about my own security and legal position in a corruption case that had odd aspects to it involved the Ship Road, Wing Road areas of Linslade and divers areas around Leighton Buzzard. Woburn Road , Kempston Beds. areas too and those working there too formed part of my investigative personal protection.
Threats to me and criminal damage and tracing of; with two nasty telephone calls to my then recently widowed mother ( different telephone area to me ) alarmed me too.
Given everything supplied to Beds. police ,
Where is the wine world monies generated by Mr Wise ?
Where were its first bankings ?
Were there any onward transfers / sharing of that money ?
Where has the treasurer accounted for that money ?
Was the auditor satisfied with the accounting, and Electoral Commissioners too ?
Why immediately upon being offered the Wise case did Beds police Chief Constable not declare not only the forces interests in matters but the Economic Investigation Unit’s association too ?
What was the role of Detective Inspector Shane Roberts ?
Please name all officers friendly with or within the circle of Mr Wise, to include the drinking/dining set as described and on file ?
Did any officer have to move departments/ accept transfers tempoary or permanent during this case ?
Was any police officer/retired officer or police authority employee in the habbit of buying wine from Mr Wise ?
What is the import licence number of Mr. Wise’s wine business ?
Which bonded warehouse, and owned by whom stored the wine imported as decsribed by him ?
Was customs VAT paid on the wine, and to which office ?
When a complaint was made to Beds police about the case (not me ) why again was an internal officer Det. Insp. Green given the job, an outside force surely should have looked at this ?
When a complaint was made to Beds police authority and Miss Stephany McMenamy (described as completly out of her depth) why did she not refer it to an outside force ?
Why then were (by now) three, yes 3 investigations concerning former police officer Mr. Wise retained within Beds and not referred out to completly neutral officers where Mr Wise could never ever make claims of friendship and perhaps forms of influence; or friendships made through an interest in wine. ?
I went to another police force who became so concerned about matters that they ” called for the papers” that is the Wise file in order to read and understand it.
At a later meeting a Detective Inspector changed his attitude to me , having read the file and brushed me off with ” not in the public interest ” to pursue this, despite the intimidation of my mother and myself,. Did he actually mean not in the interest of police officers careers ?
As I explained to him, that intimidation never prevented me doing my duty and presenting evidence to a court, and seeking to protect UKIP members and their funds. Why was he now so scarred ?
Why have requests under the Freedom of Information Act affecting this case from two police forces been blocked ?
Why do those forces appear to collude and use the same letters ?
Why were police officers identified by Mr Wise not interviewed/cautioned and statements taken?
Were witnesses warned by the police about the claims of closness made by Mr Wise placed upon file in evidence bags and the liklihood of trouble if they persisted with their evidence ?
Were all statements taken of a professional quality admissable in court, or was theredisquiet about the effot put in to produce evidence that witnesses could sign for and stand in court under oath ?
Why has it been reported and circulated ( I can only repeat that explained to me ) that as he entered court Mr Wise Mr Wise was heard to say to his fellow defendant ‘ dont worry your pretty little head about this case deary, I am a friend of The Chief Constable’
Why then, if the reports are anywhere near accurate was the case not stopped and immediately referred to the Police Complaints Commission and another police force ?
Why have all attempts to obtain documents about this case been blocked and thus civil actions prevented ?
During the 4 year 2 month enquiries were Mr Wise’s computer systems properly opened and contents thoroughly investigated ?
Lord Ted Willis liked to talk about ‘The Long Arm of the Law, but perhaps here Ancient Greece that gave to us the Demos that we fought and gave so much to preserve can play a part.

The Hydra is my metaphor, the ghastly many headed beast perhaps adequatly reflects the many aspects of corruption that pervades matters. How sad..

The original can be found amongst the very questionable and largely dishonest ramblings hosted by Anthony Butcher on his Forum in accord with the instructions of UKIP leadership.

I can confirm most of what Ian Gilman is claiming based upon my own involvement during the period in question and my direct involvement in seeking to bring Tom Wise to Justice and thus to jail.

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#0219* – Skeptyk, Filth, The Forum, contempt, cowardice. – UKIP, Farage & Anna Lindh

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/12/2010

#0219* – Skeptyk, Filth, The Forum, contempt, cowardice. – UKIP, Farage & Anna Lindh!  

PLEASE NOTE: This is a blog entry re Anna Lindh’s tragic death 7 years ago, it is mostly copied from CLICK HERE which I shall endeavour to reasonably update and correct.



The aim was to give an outline of factual information, not a forensic accounting, that would help people understand the funadamental dishonesty of those cowards who see fit to shelter their misrepresentation of this matter behind cowardly anonymity – seemingly in attempts to TRY 7 years after the event to distort and defame, exploiting her tragic death duplicitously and dishonestly, as a weapon to beat others.

As many have discovered the leadership and those feeding at the table of UKIP are largely utterly and undeniably corrupt, beset with outright liars and efforts to protect them by funded filth that prostitute integrity to that end.

I appreciate that filth like Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny, Mike McGough and Skeptyk are too stupid to understand integrity, morality or duty and endlessly drag UKIP’s reputation into the gutter they inhabit – showing the depravity of the comments they are willing to make to desperately TRY to defame me and others.
To date – all they have achieved is to show the public yet more reasons not to vote for UKIP under its present leadership.
 
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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Skeptyk, Filth, Butcher, The Forum, Douglas Denny, Stuart Parr, Mike McGough, Mark Croucher – contempt, cowardice. 
– UKIP, Farage & Anna Lindh!!

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Hi,

Is it any wonder that the cowards and pond life on Anthony Butcher’s squalid little Forum tend to hide behind false names or silly constructs to dissemble and lie!

Well now we KNOW that ex-member in Nigel Farage!

Thanks for the phone call to tell me the slime were making fools of themselves inventing fantasies about me, and spreading lies as ever – no wonder filth like Skeptyk, Baron, Independent UKIP and now quite clearly Farage masquerading as ex-member, because I KNOW ex-member isn’t me and so the only person who could KNOW Farage leaked FACTS to me was Farage is in fact FARAGE – quite clever really because my sources managed to hide that fact from me and even I didn’t KNOW!

Is it any wonder these low lifes and their mates are too ashamed to use their own names, understandably the likes of Denny, Croucher, McGough and those actually using their own names to lie, slander, libel and defame with their fantasies and deliberate dishonesty clearly have no reputation worth supporting or defending and are happy to be shown as dishonest and dishonourable.

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A measure of the general dishonesty of those writing as Skeptyk too ashamed to put their name to the pack of lies they so often publish is that yet again they dishonestly misrepresent the tragic death of the Swedish Minister Anna Lindh, and my comments on the subject at the time when clearly they will have read the facts they dishonestly choose to be selective to try to present a completely false picture.



Be assured that, as has been shown repeatedly, neither the award winning leading investigative journalist Daniel Foggo on the front page of The Sunday Telegraph, nor I, did anything but tell the truth based upon the facts available to us. 

That this nasty little worm skeptyk yet again chooses to lie is no surprise. They have NEVER been able to show a single instance where I misrepresented a single FACT in a dishonest way and unable to refute the truth they resort to the cowards solution of sheltering behind anonymity and attacking the messenger – just how low will they sink in their gutter!

UKIP leadership may well be weak, useless, incompetent drunkards of no morality or gravitas but in fact it is the filth they have gathered around them forming the dung heap from the top of which they crow that do the most damage and provide the most ammunition for The EU. Filth like those I have named – none of whom does one ever see letters, eMails, articles, blogs or even entries on reputable Forums addressing the EU – they are all but invisible in the battle against membership of The EU, as are the mouthy dishonest liars like Stuart Parr and wee Farage’s children’s club of childish fans, ranging in age from 15-75!

Is there anyone left in UKIP who is not so tainted by association with these filth and with membership of The EFD and the endless scrabbling for personal gain – whether as a liar like Bannerman or Andreasen, a thief and a fraud like Agnew or Bannerman, a spineless self server like Coleman or Buffton, a fool like Bloom or Legge, a self serving venal twerp like Nuttal or Clark,l or an insecure strutting barrow boy like Farage capitalising as a schpieler.

At least Nattrass & Sinclaire had the morality to disassociate themselves from the filth in the dung heap and the vile chums of those on it!

Full marks to Sinclaire who is the ONLY UKIP MEP not just filling her bank account and actually trying her best, whilst under attack from the filth left in UKIP, to serve both her electorate and her Country – more visible to the public than the rest put together as she tries to acquit her constituency duties – fronts the defence against the invasion of Gypsies and land grabbers who quite openly flout planning laws and her Petition for an IN/OUT EU Referendum has been a tremendous achievement as she has funded it herself and driven it forward and even this the filth in UKIP attack as they have absolutely no interest visible in leaving The EU but a huge interest in protecting their income stream and status.

I’m glad of the occasional phonecall to tell me when the vile fools on Butcher’s forum say something of note – they may say what they like about me as everyone knows they are liars and I am not remotely important – I am not asking them to vote for me, I have absolutely no intertest in being a politician or joining ANY party.

A measure of the stupidity of the forum is that they make it very clear they can not refute a word I publish, they can not show a single solitary instance in 1,000s of blogs, 1,000s of forum postings and 1,000s of eMails plus 100s of pages of printed hand outs NOT ONE WORD can they show to be materially untrue, not one word is a lie, not one word is deliberately placed to mislead – they are so bereft of argument that they resort to attacking the messenger.

Yes I stated that I believe elected politicians who betray their Country are committing an act of treason and should face due provcess and even execution if the treason is grave. Yes I commented that I was glad to see someone standing up for their Country and its currency when the BBC announced that a Swedish politician had been attacked by a no campaigner in a shopping mall, in the belief that it was of the style of egg or tomato throwing.

YES I stood by my comment even when the BBC were still claiming it was a No Protester and the politician had died as morally violence in politics must accept the consequences of its action – I am tragicly sorry for her family and Swedish politics that she died and I do not accept murder by anyone be it a protester or the police.

I stood by my comment for several reasons – one that her death WAS a tragedy but an unexpected consequence of mild violence as the BBC was reporting it and I had unwisely endorsed that violence as reported and as I understood it – just as if you hit someone in self defence you MUST accept the consequences if you find they have an annurism of which neither you nor they know and it leads to a burst and death.

It being the run up to Christmas did someone in the US State department walk up to their old friend Richard Holbrook and give him a friendly bear hug that triggered his aeurtal annurism?

Finally as Skeptyk and all other informed individual NOW know the Swedish authorities and the BBC were seemingly deliberately misleading the public and it was not until AFTER the polls closed in Sweden that they let it be known that the unacceptable assault on Anna Lindh was NOT made by a NO Campaigner in their vote of destroying Swedish banking and The Kronner but was in fact a Sammi dissident in protest at the betrayal of The Sammi peoples by Anna Lindh.

I stood by the comment also based on the assurance that it would feature the fact of opposition to the EUro and loss of National identity, sovereignty and economic control on the front page of a major British broadsheet for the first time – which it did and there it has remained. If that means scum like Septic endlessly try to make their sad attacks frankly the damage done to The EU’s scams was well worth it – the issue was brought to the front page!

You may criticise the method but the sacrifice to achieve it was me and I consider my Country and liberty more important  and definitely more important than the views or opinions of cowards and filth like Skeptyk.

Keep shooting the messenger please it has no effect on me but it raises the profile of the FACTS I publish!

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OK I’ve referred back to previous information and it is the time line that is all important in this story so pin back your ears skeptyk because I’ll say this only once!

1.Day one Friday the BBC announce that while Anna Lindh was campaigning to scrap the Krona for the Euro she was attacked by a no campaigner. NO more deatils were given as at that stage none were known.

2. Based on this information alone GLW comments that it was good to hear that at last somebody was prepared to stand up for their currency and included this comment in a long e-mail about countries having to give up their currencies for the Euro.

3. Foggo reacts to GLW’s e-mail and feels this would make a good story. He agrees for it to be on page 3 with a further supportive article near the middle of the paper by another jounalist. The article was to include a quote form GLW saying something like “Politicians who betray their country after DUE PROCESS should be executed.”

4. Day two Saturday – Foggo informs GLW that she has died from a stab wound. GLW had no idea she had been stabbed and thought she had had an egg thrown at or something.

5.Day three Sunday the article is run but the sub-editor to ‘spice it up’ leaves out from GLW’s quote the words DUE PROCESS.

6.Foggo rings GLW to offer an apology which he says will be printed next week but GLW declines this offer feeling an apology buried deep in the paper is hardly worth it. He now admits he stupidly made a mistake not to accept the apology.

7. Protestor turns out to be a Sami from Lapland and not a No campaigner who atacked Anna Lindh for her bretrayal of the Sami’s for selling off their land to logging companies and mining interests.

So IMO not the best bit of PR GLW has ever had given people’s abiltiy to only see or hear what they want to but the over riding issue still is not the man but his ball.

Has GLW ever said anything about UKIP which is not true?

Last edited by Niall Warry; Today at 05:08 PM.


FOR THE RECORD ADDED 23:57hrs.

here is the article from The Sunday Telegraph 7 years ago & for the record:

Eurosceptic hails Lindh murder

A prominent British Eurosceptic has described the murder of the Swedish foreign minister Anna Lindh as the act of a “patriot” and called upon other anti-euro campaigners to be prepared to take similar action against government figures here.
Police are investigating whether Greg Lance-Watkins, who runs EuroRealist, an internet site which is virulently against Britain’s membership of the EU, has acted illegally.
Ms Lindh, 46, a leading proponent of the pro-euro campaign in Sweden which culminates today in a referendum on whether to join the currency, was stabbed by an unknown assailant four days ago. Mr Lance-Watkins has issued a statement welcoming the attack on Ms Lindh.
He calls British ministers “traitors” for signing away the UK’s sovereignty and says they should be tried for treason.
In e-mails sent to a variety of organisations, he said: “I do hope there will be patriots in Britain with the courage to deal with traitors that has been shown in Sweden.
“If our corrupt politicians force us to take the same route to defend our economy and country . . . then I suggest the first patriot to take direct action is remembered by putting his or her statue on the remaining plinth in Trafalgar Square.” A spokesman for Gwent Police said: “We will look at these e-mails to see if there is anything of a criminal nature.”
Last night Mr Lance-Watkins stood by his comments. “Yes, I do support the execution of elected politicians when they seek to betray the electorate and their country,” he said.

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NOW STUDY THE FACTS:

Eurosceptic hails Lindh murder

Title written NOT by Daniel Foggo but by sub editor for front page attention. AFTER DF had left for the weekend.

Do NOTE the time & date DF filed HIS story – one minute past midnight on Saturday morning.

A prominent British Eurosceptic has described the murder of the Swedish foreign minister Anna Lindh as the act of a “patriot” and called upon other anti-euro campaigners to be prepared to take similar action against government figures here.

My statement to DF was regarding the attack as reported by the BBC as I had received the information originally – The BBC stated the Minister had been attacked by a No Campaigner on the Wednesday evening with no further relevant details.

Police are investigating whether Greg Lance-Watkins, who runs EuroRealist, an internet site which is virulently against Britain’s membership of the EU, has acted illegally.

As was obvious to them some low life mischief maker had phoned the Police relative to my eMail – of course no meaningful investigation took place and the malicious phonecall was ignored – I personally checked with the police at the time.

Ms Lindh, 46, a leading proponent of the pro-euro campaign in Sweden which culminates today in a referendum on whether to join the currency, was stabbed by an unknown assailant four days ago.

The assailant was I understand known to the police in Sweden as a Sammi dissident and was I understand arrested on the day of the attack.

Interestingly neither Daniel Foggo nor I were aware of any mention of any other culprit until AFTER the polls closed in the surrender referendum and the line was maintained by the Swedish Government and I understand The BBC that the attack was by a No Campaigner seemingly for the sympathy vote for the betrayal of Sweden.

Mr Lance-Watkins has issued a statement welcoming the attack on Ms Lindh.

CORRECT – when aware that an attack had taken place I was under the impression from the BBC reports that the equivalent of someone throwing an egg at her had occurred and it was not until Daniel phoned me, on, as I recall, the Friday that I became aware of the severity of the assault.

He calls British ministers “traitors” for signing away the UK’s sovereignty and says they should be tried for treason.

CORRECT – I stand by this statement and British politicians and their political class and apparatchiks have dishonestly and unlawfully betrayed the peoples and Country of Britain in clear and irrefutable betrayal of The British Constitution as in Magna Carta and every single amendment allowable or made to it since.

In e-mails sent to a variety of organisations, he said: “I do hope there will be patriots in Britain with the courage to deal with traitors that has been shown in Sweden.

CORRECT – And so I do to this day in the context of the severity of the attack as and when I made the comment based upon the reporting and style of report of the BBC radio at the time (I do not have a TV nor have I had for 15 years). 

“If our corrupt politicians force us to take the same route to defend our economy and country . . . then I suggest the first patriot to take direct action is remembered by putting his or her statue on the remaining plinth in Trafalgar Square.”

I believe this to be a good and effective use of the 4th. plinth most other statuary in London is of honourable men and women who defended these United Kingdoms, minded that no serious crime was involved in the defence of our currency and peoples.

A spokesman for Gwent Police said: “We will look at these e-mails to see if there is anything of a criminal nature.”

You will note the comment ‘IF’ and the fact that he is commenting relative to ‘e’Mails written in the clear belief that no injury of note had been caused as per the BBC reports at the time.

Last night Mr Lance-Watkins stood by his comments. “Yes, I do support the execution of elected politicians when they seek to betray the electorate and their country,” he said.

CORRECT – Minded of the use of the word ‘execution’ which would clearly have a legal connotation and be the outcome of due process for treason which was unlawfully set aside by politicians to prevent them from this risk of due process – it will be noted the majority of the public believe it is the duty of the state to protect the innocent mebers of the state and the country by Judicious use of a death penalty.

Anna Lindh was, with the benefit of hindsight, fatally stabbed during the afternoon of Wednesday 10-Sep-2010.

I issued my ‘e’Mail based upon the BBC news report that gave absolutely no indication it was a severe attack on the evening of 10-Sep-2010

I became aware that Anna Lindh had tragically died on Friday the 12-Sept-2010 when Daniel Foggo phoned to tell me and offered to pull the article. I understand the BBC announced the tragic death of Anna Lindh late on Thursday 11-Sept-2010 long after strenuous efforts were made, involving near constant transfussion and well over 9 hours of surgery time. There had been a period when they thought they had saved her life and she rallied only subsequently to require further surgery and I understand she died in surgery.

These details were given to me by two of the 3 Swedish Newspapers that phoned me 2 on the Sunday and one on the Monday – All three journalists considered, in the light of the facts, that it was an understandable error leading to a non story. They also informed me that even most of the media in Sweden were led to believe that the assailant was a No Campaigner until deadlines had passed for the closing of the ballot!

Two of the journalists said they knew and were in touch with the family and when asked to pass on my condollences personally assured me they would. On the Monday a phone call was made by an official from Sweden who thanked me for the condollences as they had been passed on to the family and explained the Swedish authorities had no interest in the report and understood the time lines.

The outcome and reasoning was as published above. Daniel Foggo brought the article up to date with wording he read to me on Saturday afternoon 13-Sep-2010.

The sub editor appended the sensationalist headline beyond the control of Daniel Foggo and made what he considered suitable minor alterations.

I have heard absolutely nothing further of this matter other than when the corrupt and dishonest seek to make capital out of selective representation in what is clearly a dishonest and cowardly way – all too often sheltering their dishonourable behaviour behind anonymity knowing that their reprehensible behaviour at the time, let alone seven years later brings shame on their identity which they thus hide.

I expect filth who can not honourably deal with the truth I publish on this and utter matters will seek out any filth they can concoct to try to defame the messenger – they seem not to be bright enough to realise the harm it does them each time as they wriggle and wheedle to make an issue of an event with absolutely no relevance to the facts they can not dispel.

Any individual of any morality or integrity will be aware that to attack the messenger in default of the message – the man instead of the ball – demeans the attacker and strenthens the message – those witjh an ability to lead evidence to overturn information are in the main respected but those who lead no consequential material in an attack on the man rather than the ball are rightly held in contempt by honourable men and women.

Failure to show that I have EVER deliberately and wittingly lied or misled whilst too cowardly to put their name to their attacks shows the depths to which such filth will sink in defence of their income or status.

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