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#0752* – UKIP Supporters’ Damaging Cyber Bullying & Lies

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/02/2012

#0752* – UKIP Supporters’ Damaging Cyber Bullying & Lies
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UKIP Supporters’ like KrisH, Mick McGough, Independent UKIP, Douglas Denny, Skeptyk, Gerard Batten and others show that Cyber Bullying & Lies, cheating and dishonesty are extremely damaging to UKIP!

It is clear that on a greatly rising tide of EUroScepticism UKIP’s failure is exacerbated by the behaviour of its aspirant supporters (cowards, cheats, liars, fraudsters and cyber bullies) and association with racism, anti homosexuality, holocaust denial, anti judaism, advocacy of violence and the dregs of EUropean politics!

The lack of leadership ability, strategy or valid tactics is a reflection of the clear lack of professionalism and disinterest in its membership or Country beyond self enrichment of a small clique and agrandisement of their claque!

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I note the cyber cowards and liars are up to speed with their jobs!

Whether individuals like Independent UKIP, Skeptyk, Gothmog, KrisH and the like are merely cowards who know they are telling lies and are ashamed or are rewarded for their dishonesty and unpleasant manner, so damaging to UKIP and the EUroRealist cause and therefore having prostituted their ethics is a matter of conjecture but endlessly having them repeat their lies and feeble efforts as cyber bullies hidden behind the cowardly cloak of anonymity without being denounced by UKIP has done the party immense harm.

As a member ‘Trusted’ on the UKIP controlled squalid little Forum of Antyhony Butcher’s Independent UKIP currently leads the charge!

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Quote QUOTES the opinion Originally Posted by Steve Morson View Post
Well…..

Everyone I’ve seen supports their assertions validly, except for 1 or 2 UKIP members. Like you. As we’ve seen.

I’ve asked repeatedly for sensitive flowers to point out where I’ve been rude. Not a single, specific instance has been quoted.

I’m I see now I’ve rattled I-UKIP’s cage, he’s responded (and of course, I can’t see it). So predictable.

Despite being a compulsive liar Mr Lance-Watkins maintains he always tells the truth in everything he says. Despite obdurate rudeness over many months you maintain you’ve never been rude. Is he grooming you to take over? You’re demonstrating increasingly familiar traits.

Clearly a dishonest attempt to mislead people as neither Independent UKIP nor any of the other maggots feeding on the corruption in UKIP, and too ashamed to use their own names when abusing people, has EVER shown a single solitary consequential inaccuracy in ANY of my many 1,000s of postings!

I am also unaware of them ever being able to materially fault those posting as Junius. I am aware they haven’t a clue who posting facts as Junius but I am aware that there is a strong possibility UKIP may find itself in Court YET AGAIN were they to interfere in someone’s employment based on their various false guesses!

I note (thanks) that Niall warry has read my blog, as do UKIP leadership and their puppets and muppets, desperately trying to find a factual inaccuracy – at which they have clearly and totally failed to date. Much as they may wish to disagree with the clearly stated opinions I also voice!

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GLW ends his latest blog entry with this:-

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Go on give him a call if you have a query.

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I disagree. 

A rather foolish statement as anyone will note as Niall Warry said absolutely nothing with which he could disagree but he is so programmed to be offensive that he has made rather a fool of himself. Clearly he could not disagree with my comment as clearly he was not in conversation with me – probably too much of a coward or advised by his puppet masters that he was on far too weak ground to risk direct contact!
May I thank Steve Morson for his support in rebutting this foolish little chappie and refuting what the serial liar Independent UKIP said originally (for the umpteenth time without a shred of evidence of EVER showing a material fact posted by me to be materially inaccurate), he just keeps repeating his lines, presumably for his UKIP funded rewards – a bit like the odious liar, cheat and criminally inclined public nuisance Mick McGough!
Anyway – my thanks to Steve Morson and Niall Warry for speaking out at the risk of being lied about and abused by the dwindling army of useful idiots cyber bullying for UKIP.
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Quote Quoting the item Originally Posted by Niall Warry View Post
GLW ends his latest blog entry with this:-

Our thanks to the many who ensure we maintain the accuracy and veracity of our postings and have done so for several years & many 1,000s of postings both on our own blogs, YouTube, eMails & Forums…..

Well, of course, I only have knowledge of GL-W thanks to 2 UKIP members – 1 an MEP – and I can only say, from personal experience, that he is quite fastidious about accuracy.

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Quote Originally Posted by Steve Morson View Post
Well, of course, I only have knowledge of GL-W thanks to 2 UKIP members – 1 an MEP – and I can only say, from personal experience, that he is quite fastidious about accuracy.

Piffle!

There are a number of articles that have been found to lack in integrity and accuracy. Articles with purposive intention; personal opinion and values from an individual with an axe to grind.

Yet one notes that in the many 1,000s of postings I have made on my blogs, other blogs and web sites – Forums and eMails UKIP have been unable to identify a single solitary factual error of any material consequence.

Yes I have an axe to grind – does not everyone of any ability to reason? One of those axes is that I can not stand corruption amongst those I misguidedly supported. I find use of fake identities to abuse and berate private individuals in ad hominem attacks beneath contempt, I am disgusted by betrayal by those I aided and voted for, I have nothing but contempt for UKIP leadership which has NOTHING to publicly curb the cyber bullying and clear dishonesty of some of its leadership and many of its supporters, presumably in aspirant hope of reward.

I have utter contempt for fraud, liars, cheats and those who seek self enrichment and self agrandisement willingly involved in racism, religious bigotry, anti homosexuality, anti judaism and espousing violence as a primary plank of political achievement or those willing to associate with such behaviour.

I have NEVER denied that I am an individual of VERY clear and openly stated opinions and values and for the likes of the creepy succubi, puppets and inccubi of UKIP leadership to berate me for having clearly held values and opinions makes them look the fools they clearly prove to be!

FOR THE RECORD:
Yet again I repeat I have NEVER, on any issue in any place or at any time, have I deliberately lied or set out to mislead anyone on any issue.

Further in all my many postings on the internet I have ALWAYS shown clearly who I am and have always made my contact details readily available.

Further I have ALWAYS strenuously endeavoured to provide accurate FACTS and clear opinions.

Further I have ALWAYS made it clear that if ANYONE believes I have made an error of FACT and have contacted me in a polite and adult manner using an identified and contactable legal persona I have been all too willing to correct any fact which they can substantiate to be untrue.

To date NEVER has any material FACT of consequence been shown to be false, untrue or deliberately misleading.

IF you disagree and can show reason for any material FACT to be corrected do contact me and any required and substantiated substantive correction will be made, acknowledged and if need be apologised for. I will NOT merely make a clandestine adjustment or removal of such an error!
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#0694* – Clarifying UKIP Distortions on behalf of Junius & myself

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/11/2011

#0694* – Clarifying UKIP Distortions on behalf of Junius & myself
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Clarifying UKIP Distortions on behalf of Junius & myself!!

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this self serving distortion of facts by one of the many sordid sock puppets of UKIP leadership which post their dishonest lies, fantasies and corrupt propaganda on Anthony Butcher’s corrupt and dishonest UKIP controlled forum – some as muppets of UKIP leadership posting in their own names and some using fake identities to hide their shame – including Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller, Paul Nuttall, Ray Finch, Bob Feel-Martinis, John Ison, Brendan Padmore, Stuart Parr and many others.

The posting hosted in disregard of dishonesty as ever by the corrupt Anthony Butcher  was brought to my attention by members of the JUNIUS team who have asked me to address the dishonesty in detail and expose this latest publication by this odious cowardly underbelly of UKIP corrupt leadership support.

Many of these self serving cowards working with Anthony Butcher use multiple identities and EU computers with rapidly changing ISP addresses and shared identities.

I will address this specific rubbish when I get a chance – distortions and dishonesties similar to those of other cowards such as Skeptyk, Independent UKIP, Defamation Hunter, Arthur Fonzanellie who shelter their corruption in cowardice and shame behind fake IDs.

Probably THE most significant fact in political terms is that some of these people are members of UKIP NEC, some salaried officers and no doubt some actually elected or seeking to feed from the public purse – a reflection on UKIP’s clearly corrupt and self serving leadership is that never once have I been aware or made aware of any member of UKIP leadership making ANY efforrt to surb these lies and distortions and it is clear that bullying and lies are a feature of the management of UKIP.

Imagine what a vile country these United Kingdoms would be if the morality and ethics of UKIP EVER held sway here!

Clearly UKIP leadership and its parasites are examples of shame and not leadership.

I shall Fisk the posting below in the next couple of days so you can consider the responsible truth, which I defend with my name and identity.

You will note that NEVER in many 1,000s of postings has it been shown EVER that I have posted to mislead or in dishonesty – unlike UKIP and its parasites!

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At least more than 1/2 of the re-roofing job is now secure and winter tight!


I am in the fortunate position that firstly I am not answerable to any of the toe rags in UKIP leadership’s claque nor do I seek popularity, income, agrandisement or preferment unlike them, nor have I ANYTHING to hide!


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Default Junius: Behind The Real Front

A meaningless title – what ‘Real Front’ is it implied The Junius Team are behind?

“BNP front group” is a smear used by Alan ‘sexy’ Harvey.

As this Alan Hardy (Mea Culpa and apologies to Alan Hardy – this should have read Alan Harvey as you can see from Gutter Snipe’s posting quoted immediately above – To find out about Alan Hardy see the right sidebar as he is relevant to UKIP and a member directly approved by Nigel Farage whereas I have no reason to believe Alan Harvey was or is a UKIP member though I understand he has friends and associates who support him within UKIP’s senior members! My thanks for the message pointing out my mistake!) who Street Cleaner seemingly finds ‘sexy’ is not a part of Junius and has never written an article for them nor to their knowledge has he ever spoken with them one wonders at the relevance.

I do clearly state that I understand that like many with an interest in EU related politics it would seem an Alan Hardy (As earlier read Alan Harvey)) HAS written on the comments section of The Junius blog. Then again so have members of UKIP leadership and others including UKIP MEPs & staff!

It was Harvey who was found to be linked to the BNP via Jeffrey Marshall, BNP London Organiser;

What relevance this extensive knowledge of The BNP has to Junius or I I am unsure – though it is noted that UKIP leadership have had and it now seems still have close relations with The BNP:

It is also well publicised that UKIP are associated with extremists, racists, anti Islamists, anti homosexuality and violence in politics even now it seems Gerard Batten has fallen foul of the race laws in these United Kingdoms and is defending his behaviour we understand with the support of UKIP and the express financial support of UKIP aurthorised by Nigel Farage.

Yert again UKIP department of lost causes is squandering member’s money, it seems!

Harvey’s recently fallen out with a member of his ‘Ulster branch’ who is a long-standing BNP member – clearly the BNP membership was not an issue until they fell out.

Clearly no relevance just an attempt to smear Junius and possibly myself by UKIP who seem rightly to be denounced as The BNP in blazers by some!

Readers here will recall that Harvey’s close friend Gary Cartwright tried to get Mike Smith expelled from UKIP over supposed “strong BNP connections”.

Mike Smith many will recal was an odious, bullying and litigious buffoon and as such Gary Cartwright would seem to have acted with some sense on this issue.

Assuming it is the same Mike Smith who committed suicide well over a year ago further details can be found at CLICK HERE

It was Gary Cartwright who had to leave UKIP.

I was under the impression Gary Cartwright quit UKIP over what HE considered to be a point of principle and now works directly for the EU Parliament attached to The Unalligned Group of MEPs and is allocated primarily to Nikki Sinclaire MEP and as such has done a great deal more towards the Leave-The-EU cause than any of UKIP’s sock puppets and most of their self serving parasites.

Amidst Greg Lance Watkins’ denunciation of the Swinton Circle is that it had as a speaker Tom Wise yet omits that Wise employed and was supported by Gary Cartwright, and that Cartwright was also a member of the Swinton Circle.

Yet another cowardly and dishonest statement seeking to smear from UKIP’s cowardly sock puppet.

Read the article the cowardly creep has cited – wher in would be the relevance of this statement relative to Cartwright? Was he a member of The Swinton Circle? It seems this cowardly sock puppet has a fairly intimate knowledge of The Swinton Circle – Personally I couldn’t name a single member though I do note it is seen as an extremist group which has given a platform to Tom Wise, Nigel Farage & Lindsay Jenkins – Tom Wise spoke for them on at least one occassion whilst awaiting trial and sentence to 2 years in prison for stealing from the public purse in abuse of his position of trust!

I KNOW the Swinton Cirlcle provided the platform with full knowledge of Tom Wise’s criminality as before the courts and with Nigel Farage’s encouragement!

In 2009 GL-W was chastising his associate Cartwright for his “support of criminality” claiming it “most clearly undermines [Cartwright’s] credibility”, then rather interestingly comes the sentence “Not an error that I would wish to make nor one I believe any of the contributors to Junius would wish to be associated with” – reads almost like an instruction as if Greg Lance-Watkins is trying to bring the wayward Cartwright into line doesn’t it?

What a desperate attempt to smear – so very typical of UKIP sock puppets and their vile associates.

Firstly Gary Cartwright is NOT an associate of mine nor have I even met him let alone associated with him. Just to dispel the blatant lie.

Secondly I stand by my statement as quoted at CLICK HERE

I will happily reitterate my position that I conside it a VERY poor display of judgement that ANYONE including Nigel Farage or even Crtwright gave succour to the criminal behaviour of Tom Wise who is a particularly unpleasant low life with the morality and ethics of an alley cat!

It is noted Wise was supported by Anthony Butcher, Douglas Denny, Mick McGough, Nigel Farage, Mark Croucher, Roger Helmer and many others, mainly self serving Judas Goats and Plastic EUroSceptics.

Clearly Cartwright’s refusal to toe the line over Wise still rankles as only a few months ago Greg Lance-Watkins stated Cartwright had a “crano rectally retentive attitude to Tom Wise” and that Cartwright’s job while working for Wise was to “try to dupe people”.

Do we take it that the snivelling cowardly Street Sweeper in crawling out of his gutter would claim my statement to be wrong? In mittigation Cartwright WAS employed by Wise and his and his family’s income was dependent on Wise at the time – that makes his actions no less acceptable.

Perhaps GL-W would be able to state if in his opinion Cartwright did a good job duping people, and whether Cartwright’s job for Nikki Sinclaire is also to “try to dupe people”?

The smear attempt is noted but clearly the capacity in which The EU currently employs Cartwright is a matter for Nikki Sinclaire – though he brings with him baggage which I personally consider it was unwise of Sinclaire to take on board as his talents doe seem all too readily subsumed by the low lifes of UKIP who seek to defame Sinclaire!

Curiously, Alan Harvey’s alternative ‘Swinton Circle’ on his Springbok club website which shows previous speakers no longer lists Tom Wise from March 2008 but retains Farage from January 2008; why one and not the other?

Since the cowardly Street Sweeper has such connections and information may I suggest he earns his keep as a butt boy for UKIP and finds out.

I do note that The Springbok Club and The Swinton Circle have been closely associated for many years – After many years based in South Africa actively opposed to appartheid and having resigned from The British Army on a point of principle over partly the issue of colour and my rejection of the fact that The British Army was at the time on standby to enter Rhodesia to promote a racially based position – I take issue with the smears of the guttless and cowards.

Another speaker to the Swinton Circle no longer shown is Bob Lomas – and what’s this? GL-W getting a bit uptight with Junius about the Magna Carta Society! What can it all mean?

It may surprise the cowardly that it means EXACTLY what I posted.

Unlike Street Sweeper I post what I believe to be the facts and will stand by them in a responsible manner, not as a coward posting innuendo and smears behind a cowardly cloak of anonymity!

Anyone wanting further facts is all to welcome to contact me direct as i have ALWAYS been easily contacted, always posted my material in my own name and always been willing to correct any detail that I have posted in error (it has happened, as I recall on 3 occasions and in each was corrected rapidly with apologies – fortunately not one of which was of any material consequence).

Greg Lance-Watkins repeatedly denounces Tom Wise from on high but fails to apply the same standards to his beloved Ashley Mote.

Ashley Mote’s criminality was totally disimilar to the breech of trust in public office and the abuse of access to the public purse made by Tom Wise – as the courts recognised in sentencing where Mote was sentenced to 9 months and Wise to 24! It is also of some note that Ashley Mote was of some value to EUroRealism over a number of years – Wise was corrupt, dishonest and of little use to anyone other than wine merchants it seems – with his long string of failures and non jobs over his life.

Tom Wise betrayed the electorate and the EUroSceptic cause in office representing UKIP, the electorate and these United Kingdoms!

But then Greg Lance-Watkins has no credibility to undermine.

So you may dishonestly claim – yet we note that Street Sweeper’s credibility is such that he is too ashamed to put his name to it!

Astonishingly (or maybe not) the every hypocritical Greg Lance-Watkins

Such a cheap and shoddy claim from a coward too ashamed to put his name to defamation yet unable to cite a single solitary instance of hypocracy with any credible evidence – so very like UKIP and its vile leadership and odious defenders.

denounces the Swinton Circle for (un-proven) BNP links but spectacularly fails to comment on Alan Harvey’s recent link-up with the Canadian “British People’s League” which is run by John Beattie former leader of the Canadian Nazi Party!

Cowardly fool that Street Sweeper is he fails to note I have absolutely no interest in Canadian Politics have considered Alan Hardy an irrelevance of no material consequence based on the little I know of him. I shall leave the gutter sweepings to those best suited in the gutter – this particular Street Sweeper andf his snivelling cowardice.

“More power to your elbow“ Harvey advices Beattie – clearly good advice for anyone who does the fascist salute a lot! Harvey also says he and Beattie “ will work ever closer together” – which based on his past record such as with US Nazi Richard Barrett means he will later develop selective amnesia and deny he ever heard of him.

What is the relevance of this obsession of UKIP with their chums in The BNP and extremist politics to Junius or myself?

So when Alan Harvey and Gary Cartwright’s ‘Swinton Circle’ (aka Springbok Club) next holds a meeting will Greg Lance-Watkins and Junius be rushing to denounce it as a Nazi-linked front group and publish its address? Seems unlikely considering denial forms part of their politics.

Particularly unlikely as I do not follow the antics of these tiny extremist groups.

Hence I am unaware of the membership of the group nor what its splits were.

The relevance of the Swinton Circle was merely due to their providing a platform for senior UKIP leadership and their being seen and quoted by many as yet another extremist group UKIP leadership were associated with.

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How very true and sitting on the pile of garbage that is so clearly represented by this cowardly street sweeper are all too many seeking preferment, placement and self interest within UKIP, its leadership, its parasites and its claque.

Perhaps when the odious Street Sweeper or scum like Independent UKIP, Arthur Fonzanellie and their ilk have the integrity to put their names and IDs to their sordid postings they can explain what this odious low life Street Sweeper was trying to achieve by showing just how dishonest he is!
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#0648* – Should UKIP follow Scottish Tories & Disband?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/09/2011

#0648* – Should UKIP follow Scottish Tories & Disband?

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The staggering dishonesty and stunning stupidity of UKIP NEC members such as Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Hugh Williams and their cronies would be hard to over estimate – I guess it is little wonder that the likes of Stuart Wheeler bipass them in decision making, as with the recent appointment of the utterly inept and inappropriate little Michael Heavers [for details see: CLICK HERE] who brings so little to the party beyond his ambition and an ability to make even Stuart Parr look stupid!
Little wonder that UKIP’s incestuous little forum has been bubbling and fizzing with the tantrums of the self important nebishes. Even someone as gullible and naiive as Steve Allison would seem to clearly have woken up to the fact of his own irrelevance – he can not claim he wasn’t warned!
The dishonesty and obvious stupidity of Mick McGough beggars belief with his display of political ignorance on the other UKIP Forum run for them by the weak and dishonest little muppet Anthony Butcher was a sight to behold today with the utterly stupid comment:

What binds this axis of anti-UKIP men and women?
Are they remunerated ?
If so by whom ?

and then in answer to another poster’s question:
Quote Originally Posted by Road_Hog View Post

Are they anti-UKIP or anti the direction that Farage is taking UKIP in?

Just anti-UKIP,attacking Farage as he is the leader.Any other leader would be similarly attacked

It would seem he has rather less political savvy keeping his ears apart than his avatar would indicate that Lisa Duffy has keeping her pants on!
Astonishingly in response to Road_Hog’s question above, Barren of Brain showed himself to be even less politically informed! His first stupidity was to say:

I’m certain they are anti-UKIP. They might have a point or two about Farage, but they are not interested in anti-EU politics. That to me is a dead giveaway.

It may make him feel important but to be so wrong is staggering even for someone who can not see past his own ego!
The comment of the idiotic AND consistenly ill informed Independent UKIP (widely believed to be little Ray Finch and a couple of others desperately boot licking to stay with their snouts in the gravy boat) his reply to ‘ex-member’  is so stupid as to be worth fisking for amusement:
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Do tell us the direction Farage is taking the party in?
Farage is much more interested in the questions put by Mcgough-
who is behind the outrageous attacks on his clear and trasparent leadership methods?
Who is financing them?

Good that you’re still around ex-member. As Farage is also still around things don’t seem to be going too well for your lot.

I trust the fool does not include me as I am all too well aware that Farage has ensured he is EUkip’s only asset – people of the calliber of Ray Finch, Gawain Towler, Mark Croucher, Godfrey Bloom, Mick McGough, Michael Heavers, Lisa Duffy, Annabell Fuller, Johnny Arnott, are indication enough that without Farage EUkip has nothing

That Farage is EUkip’s greatest assett I have NEVER denied, nor have I lied to people and implied that he is other than their greatest liability as the media have shown time and again.

I don’t expect you to give up on your anti-UKIP efforts though.

I will have to take his word for the claim that ex-member is ‘anti-UKIP’ though I have never seen evidence to support the claim and as I know The Junius team I know only too well how supportive of UKIP they have been and are.
I can only speak with certainty of myself and little wonder the cowardly worm hides behind anonymity if he claims that I am anti-UKIP or in any way on any day pro membership of The EU – Sir you are a liar and most clearly a coward – too cowardly to put your name to your obvious dishonesty, self serving as it may be.
You are Sir little better than the liar cheat and low life Mick McGough whose dishonesty is only rivalled by his stupidity which are both outshone by his vile and self demeaning personality – an excrecence on a par with Mark Croucher, John Ison, David Bannerman, Stuart Parr and the like who serially lie and cheat in their betrayal of these United Kingdoms for their personal gain.

In reply to post 1, the Junius hate blog

That you may HATE the truth about EUkip being published does not surprise me one iota.

recently reproduced a claim that Mr Rodney Atkinson was forced out of the party due to his apparent exposure of Conrad Black as a Bilderberger.

A claim which was NOT a statement of Junius merely the misinformed belief of one individual included in the dossier of papers published by long term UKIP member in Farage’s region who has resigned from UKIP Chichester – However do by all means study the facts which can be found if you CLICK HERE
To have implied, as you seemed to, that Junius wrote the comment is dishonest and clearly in character for you.

As Mr Lance-Watkins claims for himself much of the credit for stopping Mr Atkinson from becoming UKIP leader a possible source by which Mr Lance-Watkins is remunerated is the Bilderberg group.

You do make an incredible fool of yourself with such ill informed comments.

I’m certainly not saying that is the case but merely putting the possibility out there.

Indeed your disingenuous dishonesty needs no explanation – those of any intelligence saw through your childish behaviour long ago.

As for the Junius hate blog

You keep repeating your little mantra as if to convince yourself – Sir as ever you are clearly a liar as you have totally failed to show EVER where Junius blog has been so childish as to hate and clearly no example where it could be described as hating UKIP.

there is very little doubt that one or more of their ‘editors’ is most happily in the pay of the EU.

Here you are actually right – in the ranks of EUkip leadership and their parasites there is little doubt.
It is of course that doubt that has them endlessly accusing eachother and others of participation.
When on a ship of fools it is rarely wise to follow the lead with a joke! Today YOU are that joke!
Showing yourself to be even more stupid than we might have imagined you went on to post this wriggling effort in a spectacularly inept attempt to embarrass Petrina Holdsworth:
It was the GLW link I was alluding to.
Wriggling to get off the hook PH had firmly put you on from an earlier ill informed comment you made!
Some of those you associated with in UK First were and are very close associates of Mr Lance-Watkins
As with the very many senior members of UKIP and subsequently EUkip who quite clearly supplied me with information and address l;ists ensuring the accuracy of my eMails, Forum Posts and blogs now and over the years. So accurate have they been that NO ONE has ever shown me to have materially misled or lied to mislead in a single solitary posting, which is why I do not have need of the cowardly device of anonymity and provide my address and phone number readily so that anyone wishing to ‘clean-up’ EUkip and make it a party that informed and ethical individuals of morality can vote for and put their name to as gentlemen can both supply information to that end or confirm the source and facts behind the many repetitions and revellations I have made over some 15 years.
as evidenced by the info and material provided to him during that brief era.
It may interest you to know, and as it is now not material, most of which was supplied by UKIP members who hoped that UKFirst might emerge as a replacement for the befouled EUkip.
But despite the claimed role of Mr Lance-Watkins in the failure of Mr Atkinson to gain the UKIP leadership you went along with those characters (I should have used the words “type of” in addition to the words used, sorry for not doing so) in that party.
I presume ‘went along with’ includes Malcolm Pearson who had various meetings with them during that period, which of course he would not have been allowed to do without Farage’s approval as he was after all Farage’s ‘bitch’ pimping his ideas and views – even his lies and dishonesty.
Before we continue I would ask you to consider:
Is it reasonable to state that any Political Body or Corporation that is so bereft of ability to show its achievements and worth that it despatches its agents and spokesment under cowardly cover of anonymity or irrelevance to lie, distort dissemble, bully and abuse as their only defence has most clearly lost the plot.
That its agents are shown repeatedly not for their achievements which seem insignificant but for their criminality, arrogance, dishonesty and corruption might they be considered to have lost the moral right to lead.

May it be accepted that unable to show any competence, ability or achievement of note and value in their appointed task yet setting out for self enrichment they seek to defend themselves in Court with other people’s money they are clearly without ethic or morality.

That they seek in default of truth to lie and defame and then default upon their bills to seek to harm those weaker than themselves might they be considerred to have lost all right to respect or support from informed and ethical individuals.

If you can say no to any of these questions then may I suggest EUkip is the party for you!

Sunday, 4 September 2011

UKIP should follow Scottish Tories and disband

Today’s Sunday Telegraph story on the above quoting the Scottish Tories likely new leader, Murdo Fraser was the best example of political leadership I can remember. Mr Fraser has looked at the Tory performance in Scotland and come to the rational conclusion supported by the evidence that North of the border the Tories are finished and has the courage to act on his beliefs. I quote from the ST below.

Murdo Fraser, who is favourite to become leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party, will announce that he plans to wind up the party if he wins a ballot of members next month. 
He would follow disbanding the party by launching a new Right-of-centre party that would contest all Scottish elections — council, Scottish Parliament and Westminster.
Mr Fraser, a member of the Scottish Parliament, believes the Conservatives have become a “toxic brand” in Scotland since losing all 11 of their Commons seats in the 1997 Labour landslide.

UKIP needs to do the same and recognise its total electoral failure in the only elections that can lead to the UK leaving the EU, the Westminster elections! UKIP is currently the problem in making progress on this core issue and is not and never can be even part of the solution.

Its name in the blogosphere  of EUKIP is well merited. Its leadership has been bribed by EU money and flattery into Brussels based EU supporters and much, much worse blocking the development of a real leave the EU party in the UK. It is irretrievably dominated by the same old toxic Tories, Pearson, Gill, Farage etc that the Scots Tory leader elect recognises as an insurmountable barrier to winning MPs in Scotland. And look at UKIP’s latest recruit and star conference speaker, Neil Hamilton! A man who led the way in expenses scandals long before duck houses became fashionable.

Tim Congdon, one of the leaders in the No vote campaign against Farage’s pan Europe party is also down to speak at the UKIP conference sharing a platform with Bloom who is alleged already to have signed up to a Pan Europe party and a Czech EU reformist called Mach whom I have never heard of. Tim’s political compass needs looking at. If he wants out of the EU he should keep well away from these EU, mid European apologists.

UKIP can rid itself of these toxic, unreconstructed old Tories  only by disbanding and immediately reforming as broad based centrist anti EU party ie a party that could win Westminster seats like the Greens. This is the best and only contribution EUKIP can make to getting us out of the EU. The people are there to do it. Nikki Sinclaire, Mike Natrass, Trevor Colman and John Bufton. UKIP’s NEC is simply a Farage rubber stamp group of mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed plenty of shit. Batten is politically spineless against Farage and Andreasen is the Monet dream made flesh.

It is down to those 4 MEPs to show some leadership. What have they to lose? Farage will never allow them to go on any UKIP MEP slate again. That is of course the real reason Bannerman jumped ship to the Tories. It had nothing to do with his profound admiration of  EU phile boy Dave. As soon as he stood against Farage for the leadership he was toast. He knew that as does anyone who knows Farage. Look at what has happened to the others who have stood against Farage in leadership contests.

Its a pity Tim Congdon lacks a political sense. As one ministers PPS once said to me that its like a sixth sense and if you don’t have it you will never succeed in politics. Del Young has it big time. That is why he had to be marginalised and got rid off. Tim would be better off taking Del’s advice than Batten’s or Steve Allison. Both think they will be allowed onto the UKIP MEP slate in 2014. Knowing Farage, if he is still leader, I would not bet on either Batten or Allison appearing higher than 10, if at all, on any regional MEP slate. 

Greg_L-W. said…

Hi,

you seem to imply that there is something worth saving in EUkip.

Mike Nattrass, Trevor Colman and Nikki Sinclaire have effectively left EUkip and its corruption behind them.

If you consider the only way to clean-up the party is to dissolve it and reform it immediately – how do YOU believe that this would ensure the removal of the corrupt leadership when quite clearly the members have voted clearly against them and even now it is likely Farage will use the conference to re-sell PEPPs with a back me or sack me gamble, without winning that he personally is of course finished.

The membership have voted resolutely against him and the liars he has gathered around him to support PEPPs on two very clear occasions.

The members also voted resolutely against his AV proposition and his Local Elections were catastrophic.

Politically poor old Tim but Dim lacks the required abilities to lead, Stuart Wheeler has shown he is happy to collude in corruption and has the judgement skills sufficient to have gambled and made a fortune which he has proceeded to loos by £Millions ever since.

Just look at how he behaves and the calliber of people he funds and even in UKIP he knows the NEC are untrustworthy and irrelevant so he ignores them.

EUkip has made itself apparent as no more than a Judas Goat, a claque of Plastic EUroSceptics who are unable to show a single solitary actual achievement that has placed these United Kingdoms closer to Leave-The-EU.

To be fair they have trousered a great deal of money, have helped The EU gain a great deal of credibility and have set out to sabotage numerous initiatives being more interested in their wealth creation, self interest and ensuring they do not upset the cart that delivers their apples.

Who would be worth saving when their ship sinks with their top 100 on.

Please – just a few names would be worth considering for I know of none.

EUkip has for some time now been very much a part of the problem with no place in the solution.

Clearly I have been for many years and still am a resolute supporter of UKIP but clearly I will NOT tolerate corruption and deceit of any kind and I consider the befouled EUkip to be irredeemable – I regret.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

4 September 2011 14:54

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Hi,

Eric you commented on some utterly unknown EU politician speaking at EUkip’s conference.

This shows the extent to which EUkip has bought into The EU project as frankly what Finland, Estonia, Germany, Libya, Germany, Afghanistan or Greece chooses as its method of Governance is absolutely no business of ours.

Please note that Nikki Sinclaire’s You Gov poll clearly showed that 53% of the peoples of these United Kingdoms will, when given the opportunity, vote to Leave-The-EU yet only 30% would vote to remain which is quite incredible minded just howmany aliens have been flooded into Britain to try to tip the balance.

It is interesting also to note that EUkip’s extremist partners in The EU list at least 2 who openly or obliquely gave support to Anders Brevick and today I note Mario Borghezio is still a member of the group for all Farage’s huff and puff, as is Francesco Speroni see:
http://www.efdgroup.eu/the-group.html
suspended for the summer holidays one must assume yet featuring over a week into the new parliament!

Will they be speakers to ensure enough utterly irrelevant foreigners speak to qualify for the EU bribes that will pay for the conference and much of the ancilliary costs.

I note also John Gaunt will be attending though his EU Referendum site has not been updated for an age and like Dan Hannan & Glendenning and the othert Judas Goat’s approved Conservative site they have been shown up by the dedication of Nikki Sinclare’s 100K+ signature petition – despite the many efforts of Farage, Bloom, Pearson and others to sabotage her effort and aid The EU and Tories thereby.

Clearly EUkip is no part of the solution with the likes of The Fraudster and abuser Stuart Agnew, The Liar and fraudster Derek Clark and the concatenation of low lifes and liars on the NEC how could EUkip ever be a part of the solution?

EUkip represents no values I would wish to call British.

Indeed EUkip is corrupt and corrupting OUR-ENEMY-WITHIN

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

4 September 2011 15:49

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#0566* – UKIP’s Mouth Piece AGAIN Makes a Fool of himself!

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“Tim” does not work for Nikki.

UKIP’s resident idiot – Independent UKIP then goes on to make a fool of himself by being Oh so wrong! I have commented in text:

Thanks for your response. I look forward to viewing the evidence you will necessarily be providing in support of your statement that “Tim” doesn’t work for Nikki.

What on earth business is it of this vituperative lackey?

For the record I can confirm Tim never has, does not and is unlikely ever to work for Nikki Sinclaire.

Since for all their vile and childish lies as yet NO ONE has EVER established I have EVER told a deliberate lie or set out to mislead anyone. Therefore take my word for it as I know exactly who Tim is and what they do & for whom.

Unlike Independent UKIP who has a track record of dishonesty and m,alicious lies.

Regarding the funding of the advert no progress seems to have been made. Tim and 111 have stated that Nikki personally funded the advert but her staff who post here are currently silent and her website hadn’t mentioned the ad at all when I last looked.

Can this congenital idiot and habitual liar identify who on the Forum is a salaried employee of Nikki Sinclaire’s – No I thought not, just more lies.

Would the idiot care to note the fact there is NOT a logo on the advert indicating The EU may have paid for it unlike her previous EU funded ads in The Daily Mail.

Had Independent UKIP a brain rather than just a vituperative and dishonest tongue perhaps the idiot could have worked that out!

The rate card for a full page mono ad in the Daily Mirror is £29,000. The ad appears to be mono but I don’t know the actual size it appeared in the paper.

Yet again the idiot has done no checking nor noted there could well have been a linkage with recent quotes in the paper from Nikki Sinclaire – Independent UKIP just makes a fool of himself AGAIN.

I will take a wild guess that it was a quarter page ad which I will equally wildly guess would have cost about £7,500.

Not even the simplest of checking has been made – clearly just looking for a way to be unpleasant.

If that is anywhere near accurate it represents a fairly substantial proportion of the annual salary of any individual MEP.

It is nowhere near accurate – which will surprise few with a brain and not seeking to be toxic.

No wonder Independent UKIP is too ashamed to use a real name and identity as they lie, defame and distrort – as ever.

It is so sad that UKIP has become a figure of contempt to so many as a result of the vile and dishonest behaviour of its leadership team its parasites and the sycophants!

I very much doubt UKIP has any meaningful future whoever rides the Party Mare at Ascot or on the village green!

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#0442* – UKIP, Farage,The BNP & The Parasites

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Leicester’s Mayoral sideshow is no concern of consequence but it is a measure of both how UKIP behaves, UKIP’s utter contempt for the electorate and clearly the contempt of senior members of UKIP for the due process of the Party they exploit as their self enriching route to the troughs on the gravy train.

When will UKIP get serious competent respectable leadership rather than the liars, cheats, chavs, bullies and clowns they currently have.

Yes there is no doubt that Nigel Farage is a great asset as a performer for UKIP and his gutter cuning that manipulates the maggots around him to ensure his hand is visible in every action but never his fingerprint is clearly a skill some MIGHT aspire to.

That the party is so controlled that it has become bereft of any talent that might work alongside Farage is self evident – just look what lack luster, incompetent and ill informed trash for the NEC and just look at the length and dishonesty to which the party has been manipulated to suit the ambitions of the one remaining schpieller.

The huge effort that was put into raising the profile of The BNP and the lies put about by Mark Croucher and various filth in UKIP – mostly too ashamed to put their name to their lies – to TRY to link people with The BNP.

You may remember when with great glee and against sound advice Nigel Farage was the sponsor and promoter of bringing his families friend Buster Mottram into UKIP – I gather he had at one time been a tennis lothario and had been a long time associate of Lt. Guy Farage who himself had been a supporter of The National Front we are told.

You may find these details from The Western Morning News of interest:

‘UKIP defends ex-NF member over e-mail’ on 24.3.07:

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UKIP leader Nigel Farage has defended the decision to allow a former National Front activist to join his party – and threaten Westcountry MPs with losing their seats. This week the WMN revealed that former British tennis ace Buster Mottram had written to a number of MPs warning they could be “decapitated” at the next election if they do not sign up to the “Better Off Out” campaign.

He also claimed to be “implementing this particular strategy on behalf of Mr Farage”.
Yesterday the UKIP leader suggested he had not expressly ordered contact to be made with Westcountry MPs – but did support the efforts in principle

It is interesting to watch the dishonest spin put out by UKIP’s habitual liars and defamers like William Shaw, who to be fair has little knowledge of UKIP or seemingly politics merely a lack of manners and a willingness to lie in his childish abuse.

Then there are the normal maggots that lie and dissemble in support of a place picking up crumbs from the troughs on the gravy train like Skeptic, Independent UKIP, Mick McGough and their ilk who have been proven again and again to be willing to lie and distort for their own gain and are without honour or integrity – that most such are too ashamed to use their own name is unsurprising.

That Mick McGough has accepoted he has no reputation worth defending even as a proven liar and low life can hardly surprise.

It is interesting, for those who have followed the heart of UKIP politics for best part of 15 years to note the spin put about to hide the gross behaviour of the leadership.

One need only remember the irrefutable FACT that Douglas Denny was fired by his colleagues on The NEC as untrustworthy having corrupted the pretence of an election that put Farage in position just as it is irrefutable that Annabelle Fuller is a foul mouthed slut and a liar and with Mark Croucher deliberately set out to lie to try to keep their jobs with Nigel Farage, for had an honest man won that election they would have been out of the door with their over paid bribes straight down the toilet.

As a family friend of Farage’s Buster Mottram was widely lauded within UKIP and his affiliation with The National Front and latterly with The BNP was plaid down, yet widely known. However the efforts of Nigel Farage and his parasites to raise the profile of The BNP are well known:

That Farage was clearly using third parties for contacts with The BNP would seem obvious and his duplicitous gofer Mark Croucher is well known to have extremist political contacts and no reputation of either honesty, honour or integrity – little surprise that he was promoting The BNP with such energy! He was all too willing to lie about anyone or anything to justify being over paid!

Mark Croucher is a whore of the worst kind, who has prostituted morality and decency, as he has constantly acted in his own interest regardless how dishonestly or the consequence to others – a particularly unpleasant type of human being, feared by some and respected by no one.

The members of UKIP ELECTED to represent them on UKIP’s leading management committee amongst others Dr. David Abbott who would stand no dishonesty and no racism He was elected having informed Nigel Farage that misguidedly some years earlier he had made two minor donations of about $100 each to a British Nationalist organisation which subsequently transpired to be a front for fund raising for The BNP.

Nigel Farage personally condoned this and was well aware of the paltry sum relative to the large amount of money David had already and would subsequently donate and use in the interest of UKIP.

Another individual of notable competence and excellent pedigree who was ELECTED by the members was Dr. Eric Edmond – a mathematician and economic analyst of no mean ability who had taught at Liverpool University, had been a Civil Service adviser in Downing Street and had subsequently worked as an executive within The Bank of England. Doctorates come apace it seems as his wife Mary is a Senior Paediatric Consultant in The West of England and thus with David Abbott able to provide a unique insight into The British Health Services!

That these two men of letters, seemingly the only qualified Doctorates on the NEC at the time (or for that matter within the meilleur of the Party leadership), were both independent men of stature and probity did not sit easy with the low lifes gathered around the inadequates that were passing UKIP leadership. That they believed that public and party money should be accounted for did not sit easy with those there to aggrandise and enrich themselves!

A campaign commenced to remove these two honest men – just as had been carried out to remove honest individuals like Linda Guest, Richard Suchorzewski, Jill Chant etc. before them and the campaign mounted, including death threats, against Delroy Young ALL ELECTED TO THE NEC BY THE MEMBERS also Anthony Butcher who however weak, corrupt and venal he might be was ELECTED by his supporters.

Over the years Farage has engineered and cheated, usually through others, to ensure a compliant team of nodding donkeys (in the main outright Asses) who are bought and paid for and moulded to his needs for corruption and weak incompetent leadership.

In the knowledge that UKIP was facing an election in the following Spring and aware that the likely expectation was a collapse in the vote during the preceding summer the stance of The BNP was built up by Farage’s associates such that eventually – despite the difficulty of UKIP leadership being hounded to account for the huge amount of money that had seemingly been stolen in self enrichment scams or at very least not been honestly accounted, as with the £211K listed as OTHER EXPENSES in an office budget of some £400,000, whilst the scam described by Farage himself as:

‘UKIP’s most successful fund raise ever’

Ashford – had so David Bannerman the Party Chairman informed members:

‘merely funded the party to the value of less than 15% of the income’

whilst in one cheque alone, paid into a private bank account sums of £1/4 Million were unaccounted and went missing.

That Petrina Holdsworth as Chairman had previously resigned as she was not prepared to have her name associated with the corruption and financial misdeeds, including criminal fraud is a matter of public record.

Now there was the embarrassment of The Two Doctors and Delroy Young seeking transparency – a situation that had to be resolved or Mike Nattrass’ prediction made earlier:

‘How do you think we get our money, if you don’t shut up we will all end up in prison’.

The promotion of The BNP continued apace but it seems that a contingency plan was put in place to blacken the names of Dr. Abbott and Dr. Edmond for fear of reprisals over what seems to have been the money stolen from the party which they were determined, with Del Young, to have exposed.

You will be minded that at this same time the grime squad of UKIP was mobilised and active spreading their filth and dishonesty everywhere to rig the selection of MEP candidates a process being overseen by Christopher Gill – a failed ex Tory who had joined UKIP to more spectacularly fail – as he did when asked to preside over the Selection process CLICK HERE his suitability as a politician in his own right was displayed by the risible result he achieved in the constituency he had been given to serve The Tories previously as a safe TORY seat.

Nowhere was it more clearly shown that the British people vote for Parties not the trash that represent them!

An integral part of the ‘Plan B’ besides linking, utterly dishonestly, Abbott, Edmond, Suchorzewski and most farcically of all myself, with The BNP was the acceptance of a suggestion made by Martin Hasslam, Nigel Farage’s place man, who had done a great deal of pro bono accountancy work for Farage and had been a consistent and substantial donnor to UKIP, Martin suggested that he bring his tennis partner Nigel Farage’s friend to The NEC.

Farage personally agreed this as how could he not since I understand that Mottram was at the time in an ongoing relationship with Farage’s cousin and Martin was Farage’s trusted accountant.

No other NEC members seem to have been aware of this as I feel sure that at very least Drs. Abbott and Edmond and Delroy Young would have cautioned against it.

However come the day and sponsored WITH PERMISSION FROM FARAGE, Martin Hasslam introduced Buster Mottram to The NEC. Having introduced him to Abbott, Young and Edmond immediately prior to the formal meeting as I recall.

There was some ill mannered braying from the asses which Farage silenced and as a matter of manners Eric Edmond openly advocated politely listening to his proposition – once heard the detail for individuals of integrity would provide the weapons of its destruction only braying asses would fear succumbing to involvement with something as odious as The BNP.

That realising that Buster Mottram’s idiotic concept, once aired, would stand no chance of favour with the far more discerning membership than it had with himself and others seeking their own aggrandisement the entire debacle was used by Nigel Farage as his personal Reichstag Fire and soon after came the obscenity of Crystal Nacht and the slaughter of the innocents advancing the odious and machevellian Adolf Hitler to his power base as with Farage and the simpering maggots he surrounds himself with.

Drs. Abbott & Edmond together with Martin Hasslam and the much abused Deroy Young were rapidly consigned to history and lied about to ensure no danger of probity, transparency or reasoned debate in the rejection of Farage’s attempt seemingly to conjoin with the less extreme element of The BNP.

It was not long before Farage – expressly against the wishes of the membership of UKIP, had conjoined – not with The BNP – with the low lifes and extremists of EU gutter politics where he now leads the racist, xenophobic, anti Jewish and violently antio homosexual Pan EU Political EFD Group.

It will be noted the odious and dishonest calliber of Nigel Farage’s chosen proponents of membership/forming a Pan EU Political Party men of no political caliber nor any intellectual standing liars, cheats, corrupt and ever willing to defraud for political gain – in this instance Farage’s chosen incubae are front run by Mick McGough and Stuart Agnew MEP both individuals proven to be without honour, integrity or probity.

Both Eric Edmond and David Abbott are as dedicated to the values and principles espoused by the members of UKIP, but have both discovered just how cheap and tawdry are the corrupt aims of the leadership and their parasites.
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#0432* – a UKIP ROUNDUP In Haste

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 21/04/2011

#0432* – a UKIP ROUNDUP In Haste

Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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a UKIP ROUNDUP In Haste!

I haven’t even read my ‘e’Mails today! But please bear with me as I had my first dose of heavy duty ‘cocktail’ chemotherapy and a wonderfull aray of pills today and I’ve run out of time!

IF you want to follow the details of the treatment over the last 13 years and follow as I beat the obscene disease yet again just scan down the RIGHT SIDEBAR and CLICK ON the Pic. of the ‘WARM HANDS’ being washed!

You might wish to join with filth like Mick McGough who dragged CIB, UKIP, The TFA and others into the gutter he inhabits with his published glee at a supporter of UKIP The CIB and The TFA who has spent many years opposing Britain’s membership of The EU – A sad reflection of what thes organisations making money as they ride on the gravy train consider TRUE BRITISH VALUES!

We note Anthony Butcher hosts McGough’s filth at:
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/ukip/90831-collection-anti-ukip-greg.html  

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Hi,

a busy day so please accept the haste.

I received this which may interest you

Date: (REDACTED)
From: (REDACTED)
Subject: UKIP smears
To: johnwest81@hotmail.com

Mr West, A friendly warning. Peter Reeve and others have contacted several members of UKIP about you. They have been advised to contact the radio station where you work with allegations of racism. ‘The worse the better so he loses his job’ were the words used. That they consider this acceptable behaviour disgusts me. They have lost my support forthwith.(REDACTED)

I am aware of the author and have checked the veracity to the best of my ability and it ties in with filth published by another of UKIP’s parasites Skeptyk and also endless childish attacks from the serial liar Mick McGough.

No doubt incresing numbers of UKIP genuine supporters not looking to feed their bank accounts or egos at the expense of their Country will be realising that not only is Mick McGough a proven liar but also willing to sell out his own associates for personal gain and Independent  UKIP and the sad failure Skeptyk who have both, for all their lies and posturing just like Stuart Parr and others been made to look complete idiots and clearly dishonest.

Endlessly these maggots that have sought to exploit the EU and UKIP for personal gain find they are proved liars over and over. Endlessly they claim that my Blog publishes untruths yet in the many 1,000s of postings I have made they have utterly failed to identify a single consequential fact that I have published that is materially untrue.

However as they leap up and down in the gutter the ordure they coat themselves with their unpleasant, dishonest and childish behaviour has shown ever more what odious cowards they are.

As with Mick McGough and Douglas Denny their lies over several years are beneath contempt.

Let us consider THE FACTS provided by the mailing I have published above.

I gather not a single letter of complaint regarding John West’s broadcasts has been recived in the 7 or 8 months he has hosted and also co-hosted two breakfast shows a week at ICR. We then have the proof positive that incitement to defame and lie was published by Mick McGough, Skeptyk, Peter Reeve and others and  a tiny weenie flurry of near identiacal libelous, defamatory and dishonest lies arrive at ICR and when the chppie running the station writes to each complainant not one has the intelligence or morality to write and apologise.

I note Skeptyk also lied about John West requesting the removal of a copyright picture from his blog. Perhaps Skeptyk might care to substantiated this lie as he claims he was written to he can very easily publish John West’s letter.But of course he can’t as John West has never sent such a letter and yet again Skeptyk is proven to be a liar.

I have a feeling that within the month UKIP are likely to realise just how big a mistake they have made in inciting this vile underhand and cowardly attack on John West has been.
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Hi,

here is a new resource for EUroSceptics and EUroRealists at:
 

  This new site was launched on the 20-Apr-2011 and would seem to have much going for it as it is aimed at assisting EUroSceptics, EUroRealists and activists alike – seemingly with a help line.


I wish the site well and hope it lives up to my personal hopes.


On the subject of Resource Sites – do not forget the various links in the Right Sidebar of this blog and many of my other blogs.

Do not forget to take advantage of the LINKS in The TABS at the head of the current blog daily.

I understand a New Resource that may well become of much note and more embarrassment to The EU is scheduled to be launched during this coming weekend – but more of that then!

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Hi,

here is another all to typical mailing – this time regarding Mid Suffolk.
 

From: (REDACTED)
To: (REDACTED)
Subject: RE: UKIP Mid Suffolk
Date: (REDACTED).ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P{padding:0px;}.ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage{font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahom

Dear Sir,

I vote UKIP and was disappointed that their were was no candidate for my area! Conservative, Liberal, Labour and Green Party……UKIP could have used this election, an opportunity missed.

To keep and increase the support of the UKIP possible voters lets hear a bit more on issues in the media by some of the elected members who are not shy or able to put across the views written

Thank You
(REDACTED)

The danger the correspondent faces is that if people are NOT selected by a democratic process unfortunately one ends up with individuals being elected based upon lies and dishonesty and using Conservative oriented and sponsored so called PR agencies like Athena-PR to gain advantage – interestingly a fact that only came to light when this blog published the fact that Nigel Farage employed a professional agency to ensure his election.

You may remember his previous placement as leader was also founded on lies and dishonesty that emmanated from the Party’s own returning officer – who was sacked from the job for his corruption and by the lies of UKIP salaried Press Officers!

UKIP internal elections and selection processes have similar levels of integrity to those of Godfrey Bloom’s favourite baboon!!! CLICK HERE & HERE

It is also valid to ask oneself if it is better to field no candidate rather than make the party look crass by fielding a shy and retiring school girl taking her ‘A’ levels who will not be interviewed nor provide a photograph or statement when seeking office of Mayor of Leicester as is Regine Anderson, on behalf of UKIP CLICK HERE
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You may also be amused by the posting on and about Anthony Butcher’s Forum and the pond life that regulary post their lies there as enumerated earlier:

Consignment of geriatric shoemenders

As I say, hilarity. Arising from hypocrisy and crass stupidity.

‘Allowing smoking in a pub not a real crime’? Would it be a crime if it wasn’t Nick Hogan? What constitutes a crime in that case, or is it a matter of who commits it?

It’s always worth coming on here for a smile. Anyway, here’s today’s mental exercises for the sagacious law professors, ethicists and elevated equestrians pitching in here(answer ALL questions):

Law: civil and criminal

1) Is entering premises and intentionally stealing documents from a someone a crime? (OK, a hint: section 9 of the Theft Act 1968) (10 points)

2) If a tiny part of the contents of said documents (e.g. a contract) are then posted on a website, is that a criminal or civil offence? Explain your choice. (No more hints – you’ve had one!) (20 points)

3) If person A sends person B a private e-mail, containing a viciously untrue allegation, then promulgates it to all and sundry within an organisation with a view to destroying person B’s reputation by nature of the allegation, what offence has been committed? (20 points)

Ethics

4) Person A sends someone Private Messages in an internet forum, then uses the forum to complain that they have been discussing / publishing the contents of those messages with other people. Person B sends Person A Private Messages, which another party, Person C then hints strongly to B the contents of the messages he sent to A. What kind of character is Person A? (Assume – correctly – that B does NOT disclose the contents of PM’s, e-mails or other discretions.) (25 points)

5) If Person A from Q.4, operates the website mentioned in Q.2, is there a criminality issue / moral conflict? (25 points and a Gold star for the best answer!)

Ends

I won’t enter the discussion of the merits of the Denby / Bloom situations, I think they’re both overblown teacup storms, indicative of deeply sinister, cliquey croneyism and hysterical mischief-making, both as destructive as each other.

For me, I cannot stop thinking about my (fairly lengthy) chat at the leadership hustings last autumn, where I was regaled with stories of planned “professionalisation” of a certain entity. Seems like years ago.

Steve

It is particularly interesting to note that the author of this is a Branch Chairman still and has been a dedicated supporter who has in the past stood, at his own expense, in elections for UKIP yet seemingly Bromsgrove is now only fielding a single paper candidate- One must assume as a resuult of watching the lies and antics of UKIP leadership towards their local UKIP elected MEPs Nikki Sinclaire and Mike Nattrass both of whom have endeavoured to give of their best to the local party and also local issues.

That allegations of theft were made against John Ison and that even the media did not believe him, when he was put up to his malicious betrayal of trust, is now a matter of widespread knowledge, even made fun of on the floor of The EU pretend parliament!

Whether the Police take action against him is a matter for The CPS but it is clear to me that absolutely no credence has been given to the odious little man by either the press, the police or OLAF.


My appologies to Steve Morson for having posted his public domain posting onto this blog without his express permission, but he was either out or not taking phone calls this evening.


Steve Morson knows from past experience I always seek to obtain either the author’s permission or two or more reliable sources for private texts, also where possible I try to contact individuals to ensure they will stand by their claims made in the public domain.
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You may also in passing care to note that it seems that Nigel Farage has employed yet anothre Conservative who is not opposed to EU membership and withdrawal from The EU but rather CLEARLY STATES that he is in favour of membership of The EU and seeks implausible changes.

No doubt these new staff are to makke it easier for Farage to betray the party and with his sycophants and self seekers like Mick McGough, Stuart Agnew, William Dartmouth, David Bannerman, Marta Andreasen and others seek to dump the principles and values of UKIP in favour of Pan EU Party Allegiances with appeasers rather than act with integrity as withdrawalists.  

Those of course who are not aiming to dump UKIP alltogether and seek new homes in The Conservative Party or center right Spanish Politics!

For more details you may find this LINK of help!
It is interesting to note that UKIP Northern Ireland are seemingly either going native before they even start or making up policy on the hoof CLICK HERE where he conflates CAP & CFP in some confussion and though he talks of withdrawal he has far more to say about changing The EU. Is this also to seek inclusion in a Pan EU Political Group?

Another brief pointer for UKIP having been found Guilty on various counts relative to Nikki Sinclaire and with no sign of UKIP doing anything constructive other than madly stall to try to keep their behaviour out of the media until AFTER the elections – A point Douglas Denny may wish to raise when next he has the courage to challenge Nigel Farage on matters of integrity, probity, transparency and so very much more!


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#0426* – UKIP’s Dishonourable Behaviour Spills Into The Press – AGAIN!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/04/2011

#0426* – UKIP’s Dishonourable Behaviour Spills Into The Press – AGAIN!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP’s Dishonourable Behaviour in Chorley Spills Into The Press – AGAIN!
In the manner of ‘Birds of a Feather’ I understand Nigel Farage has agreed to open ‘The Swan with Two Necks’ on Good Friday for his criminal chum Nick Hogan!

As birds go they ain’t swans but they sure have a lot of neck – Sadly not their own but it is that of UKIP that is being laid on the line for their personal vain glory!
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Hi,

as it now seems the crass behaviour of UKIP in Chorley has spilled into the realms of the media as shown by this ‘e’Mail sent, as you can see, to LEP Newsdesk which I believe is the holding company of The Chorley Guardian and other local papers – it is clearly a matter in the public domain, hence the copy forwarded to me.

Unlike the pond life that like maggots on a corpse feed as parasites of the leadership of UKIP – The author is clearly prepared to put his name to the posting and unlike the scum that has gathered around UKIP’s leadership like Skeptyc, Independent UKIP, Gothmog (William Shaw), wonkitsame (Stuart Parr), Baron von Lotsov (sure ain’t brains or common sense!), Mick McGough and the rest of the filth he is clearly an individual of some probity and established integrity.

To answer a question asked by a commentator on the UKIP controlled Forum:

Its nothing to with racism-its whether or not a member can be sacked and sacked as a candidte on the basis of a phone call to Nigel Farage and that the party’s constitution and rules are not followed.
Various Labour Mps were accused of fraud etc but the Labour party followed its discipline procedures with due process,natiral justice,oppurtunity to rebut etc.

I understand from more than one contact aware of this matter that there was zero communication with Colin Danby of an official nature – the matter was merely leaked to the media in much the same way John Ison and his associates set out to lie and defame Nikki Sinclaire using material stolen from her office and abuse of trust.

Or for that matter the engineered lies that were leaked dishonestly to Guy Basnett at The News of The World wjhen he made such a fool of himself and found he was in breach of trust having foolishly believed lies put to him seemingly with the authority of UKIP leadership, that were subsequently unsustainable but proved of short term benefit to The EU as UKIP had blocked exposure of a number of significant EU abuses of tax payers’ money.

Many will remember the pack of lies from Annabelle Fuller that Nigel Farage endorsed that led to John Wittacker’s resignation as Chairman.

You will also note the desperate and dishonest attempts to defame me with lies and childish fabrications by self serving idiots sycophantic to UKIP leadership for their personal gain.

You will be aware that after many YEARS of blogging to date NOT A SINGLE BLOG I HAVE EVER WRITTEN has been shown to be consequentially inaccurate.

Little wonder the pond life of UKIP are so desperate to suppress the truth and so ashamed that they fail to put their name to their dishonest fabrications.

So in answer to the question of ex-member NO DUE PROCESS would seem to have been followed.

I understand no due process was ever followed when Farage’s chum Tom Wise was exposed having defrauded the tax payers Farage merely accepted a donation of some £5,000 of the stolen money to pay a debt and no disciplinary action of consequence was taken, as with Stuart Agnew who openly and clearly admitted on film to electoral fraud with Malcolm Pearson and to defrauding the tax payers with David Bannerman.

Similarly no disciplinary action was taken against the liar Derek Clark nor any action for his having publicly boasted of defrauding the tax payers.

May I remind readers of the various outright breeches of The Data Protection Act by UKIP leadership and the number of guilty verdicts obtained against UKIP in various Courts. You may recall when UKIP Chairman was described in open court by a presiding judge to be an unreliable and implausible witness.

Many will be aware of the source of the leaks from the leadership of UKIP that placed John Bufton before the cameras on the despatches programme defrauding the tax payers by signing in on a Friday early morning for work and promptly flying home having obtained his per diem allowances.

Clearly in terms of leadership and Governance in ANY capacity UKIP are sadly unfit for purpose.

It is clear that an outright and bigotted comment likening an African leader to a baboon when made by a member of that sordid and clearly racist Leadership team, when made in UKIP’s name representing the party and the constituents on the floor of The EUropean so called parliament not only goes undisciplined but is not even appologised for yet when a lesser soul in a private conversation makes, what I am told was a far less notable remark based more on Politically Correct speech than racism they are summarily dismissed.

One need only to note the utterly shameful behaviour and lies promulgated about and told to Nikki Sinclaire – that Godfrey Bloom was censured for his anti homosexual behaviour by the parliament is a matter of shame to decent UKIP supporters. That Malcolm Pearson was proven to be a liar hardly helps the party.

Clearly being so utterly bereft of morality or competent leadership, being a vipers nest of liars and low lifes perhaps you will agree that encouraging ANYONE to vote for these odious people is not just an act of folly but more rationally must, by anyone of any morality, be considered a matter of shame.

We even have fools trying to pretend that in some way I would seek to harm UKIP’s ONLY asset in a desperate effort to hide the truth by defaming me the filth feeding on the corpse of UKIP invent lies, fantasies and distortions.

Fortunately in 65 years NO ONE has EVER been able to show any instance where I have EVER dishonestly or dishonourably set out to damage or malign ANYONE.

Little wonder that UKIP’s low lifes and gutter trash are so ashamed they will not put their names to their lies.

Once again I challenge these filth to call a public meeting which I can attend and try to substantiate their l;ies to my face and to the public based on fact, in their own names – I have made this challenge frequently before yet knowing their claims to be lies they have scuttled away like cockroaches to attack in a cowardly manner unable to substantiate their lies.

UKIP is clearly unfit for purpose as the following ‘e’Mail to the media shows.

A vote for UKIP in its present condition is a vote for shame.

Hence my blogs have for some time opened:

Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 

is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
a statement bourne out as fact yet again below!

—– Original Message —–

From: Ned Naylor

Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 12:20 PM
Subject: Chorley Guardian article

Dear Colin
 
Just a short note to express my dismay as to how your good name and reputation have been sullied and defamed by the details in the article printed in last weeks
Chorley Guardian.
 
I find it totally without credibility that someone like Mark Hogan, a convicted criminal who deliberately broke the law concerning smoking in his Public House, the Swan with two Knecks , and who has
spent time in prison for that offence, has the audacity to label you as a racist.   It is clear that  Mr Hogan does  not aspire to the highest standards of free speech and
cannot demonstrate that his adherence to the law of the land is unequivocal.  That he promotes his view of you being a racist via his membership of UKIP brings them into liability for allowing
such defamation.
 
Having known you personally since I moved to Clayton Le Woods in 1977 and having had regular contact over the intervening years, there has not been one occasion whereby any comment
made by you on any matter has caused me to believe you have any prejudice towards any class, creed or religious belief and you have always instilled in me the firm belief that as a civilised
society, we must be tolerant of others beliefs, but that the evil extremism we now witness in the name of the Islamic religion being perpetrated against our race, our society and our beliefs
is directly at variance with our core beliefs in accordance with the human rights act and the european convention on human rights, which guarantees, freedom of association, speech and religious
beliefs, but does not grant terrorists the right to cause us harm.
 
You are and have always been to my mind a true Brit, who has served your country well in your military career and in civilian life done nothing but good works for the benefit of your fellow
human beings.
 
I have sought out the meaning of “Defamation” which is below and I personally believe that not only Mr Hogan has defamed your good name, but that in repeating the allegations made by him in the
Chorley Guardian, a vicarious liability for promulgating such slanders also lies with the Chorley Guardian.  The effect of that article is certainly widespread as you have indicated it has been placed
on to the internet for all to see, thus causing your good name and reputation as a fair minded and tolerant individual to be demeaned in the eyes the public and left you open to ridicule, hatred
and contempt.
 
I would strongly urge you to take up this matter with the Chorley Guardian as they do carry some responsibility for what has  occurred  now in your life.
 
My solicitor is Stephen Evans at Birchall Blackburn in St Thomas’s Road, who may be able to assist you, possibly to claim damages if the impunity of your reputation is not revoked by the parties concerned
and a public apology promulgated in the associated media.
 
There is a another issue which you may wish to draw to the attention of the Police.  The effect of Mr Hogans defamation may be causing you to be or to feel harassed and there is specific protection against
harassment under the provisions of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 which, if this matter has indeed been promulgated on to the internet and you are receiving messages of hate and criticism to make
you feel harassed, could result in a criminal prosecution under the act, you should consult the police on this and provide evidence of harassment if this is occuring.
 
 
All the best for the future and I am looking forward to your next book.
 
Regards
 
Paul A (Ned) Naylor
 
A P Financial Services UK Ltd (t/a Ned Naylor & Co)
Northwest region Client Services
The Office @ Fairhaven, 9 Ollerton St,   
Adlington, Chorley, Lancs. Pr6 9LF
Phone/Fax 01257 483640
Email – enquiries@nednaylor.co.uk
Website – http://www.nednaylor.co.uk
A P Financial Services UK Ltd is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. FSA No 218973
Registered Office 3 John St, llanelli, Carmarthenshire, SA15 1UN
Registered in England and Wales, Registered Number 4527173
 

Meaning of Defamation

There is no single comprehensive definition of what is defamatory. Various suggestions have been made before the courts, including any material which:

  • Is to a person’s discredit.
  • Tends to lower him or her in the estimation of others.
  • Causes him or her to be shunned or avoided.
  • Causes him or her to be exposed to hatred, ridicule or contempt.

For a statement to be defamatory the imputation must tend to lower the claimant in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally. Even if the words damage a person in the eyes of a section of society or the community, they are not defamatory unless they amount to a disparagement of the reputation in the eyes of right-thinking people generally.

To plagiarise Colin Denby in an early publication:

 
To all the people in Britain who have known me over many years locally and Nationally, I rest my case and leave it to you to draw your own conclusions based on the facts! 
 
To all the people in Britain & The EU who know, or have had dealings with or have read about UKIP & its untrustworthy and incompetent leadership in the last 18 year, I rest my case and leave it to you to draw your own conclusions based on the facts!

I stand by my every word and am obviously able to substantiate the facts I lay before you.
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#0411* – UKIP Branch Ch. SLAMS UKIP CORRUPT BEHAVIOUR

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/04/2011

#0411*- UKIP Branch Ch. SLAMS UKIP  CORRUPT BEHAVIOUR
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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A UKIP Branch Chairman & PPC SLAMS UKIP’s  CORRUPT BEHAVIOUR & The Style of its Parasites!!

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Default Disgusting! Gerard (not) the (only) subject of smear campaign

As sources of amusement go, I find this forum one of the most reliable, and this thread an exemplar.
I view it occasionally, as it often leaves me in despair, and contribute rarely. Anyway, here goes.
Skeptyk by name and nature indeed. Given the world we inhabit Skeppy, I’m rather surprised that a decent cove such as yourself (genuine flattery) should think a smear e-mail against Gerard as ‘non-existent’ (feigned scepticism), but then go on to ask for it’s contents to be PM’d to you as proof, while hiding behind a pseudonym (hypocrisy and irony )

Well it does seem as if he has the measure of that revolting gathering of self serving, self enriching filth! Skeptyk, Independent UKIP, Gothmog (William Shaw), Baron von Lottsov (more stupid than venal!), Gawain Towler, Mark Croucher, KrisH (Kris Henderson), Annabelle Fuller, Bannerman, Agnew, Reeve, Nuttall, Batten, Kris or KS (Kris Seunarine), Andreasen, Bloom and the rest of the low lifes beneath contempt seeking personal gain by the betrayal of principle and patriotism.

There is nothing to be gained in calling someone an “X sockpuppet” if you yourself are a “Y sockpuppet”. IMHO. It was interesting to see the usual coterie of ‘defenders’ doubted the existence of that infamous e-mail header posted on this very forum (4th March), and deleted in extreme haste. If it was fictitious (it wasn’t – it’s on Junius for the curious), why the panic? People on here seem to have their own interpretation of libel laws; another source of hilarity. I doubt that there’s more than a few members here who could actually afford a libel lawyer – for 1 day!
I’ve tired of the forum where the only way some people feel that they can “contribute to discussion” is behind a cloak of anonymity. There is genuinely no explanation for this other than moral cowardice.

Perhaps he overlooks the reasons besides moral cowardice – dishonesty, corruption, stupidity, self enrichment, malice, sycophancy for example!

I have been the victim of an extremely nasty and totally unnecessary smear campaign recently, but of course, as a lowly branch chairman, it is of no consequence to the masses.

There was however an effort to embroil this blog – just as with the unpleasant smear of Gerard Batten – the reason being obvious in that not only do most of the informed in UKIP read this blog with an astonishing degree of regularity but also it is read by several well connected members of the media on a regular basis.

What is most staggering is that there was no conceivable, rational need or purpose for it; what is most puzzling is “why” it was done.

As with most activity in UKIP I believbe that you will find it was in an effort to denigrate others to gain points in the race to get their snout into the trough on the gravy train as a sycophant of Nigel Farage’s.

That and – I suppose – the fact that its source is a member of the party’s disciplinary committee.

If the mutually shared belief is that the individual in question is John Ison perhaps it is worthy of note that it is widely understood that he was stained an almost permanent brown colour in his endeavours at Oldham to gain the colour yet unwilling to make any efforts for UKIP in his own region – It seems to have paid off, as he was seemingly rewarded with a position on UKIP’s risibly styled Disciplinary Committee!

A position allocated without even making formal application I am given to understand.

The choice of smear ‘type’ was also curious; it leaves one to ponder whether some of the more ‘unsavoury’ accusations made against the party have a foundation in truth.

Hence it always proves essential for me and also I understand for those posting on Junius, to check our facts with care – there are no shortage of liars, cheats and duplicitous bufoons on UKIP’s leadership team and amongst their parasites – the maggots feeding on the party they have all but destroyed!

I will yield more by PM for those prepared to reveal their true identity under solemn promise – I will give my WORD – of utter secrecy.
The biggest laugh of all came when the attempt to use Greg Lance-Watkins as the vehicle for the smears, blew up in their face badly – I almost lost control of my bladder .

Amusingly there is so much back biting and jokeying for position in UKIP’s upper echelons that often I will receive ‘inspired’ leaks from both sides trying to gain an advantage. Fortunately to date the level of general stupidity amongst UKIP leadership and the scum gathered around them has made it easy to spot the internal betrayals and attempts to set each other up – thus to date this blog has NEVER been duped into publishing a single solitary error or dishonesty of any significancve – but as many know we do check our facts.

Completely out-of-the-blue, I received a phone call several weeks ago from GL-W, seeking confirmation or denial of 3 stupid slurs, before posting an article attacking me, on his bog (sic).

All a part of ensuring that this blog – whatever name inadequates may childishly call it – ensures it maintains its track record of 100% Truth and accuracy.

When I trashed them, he decided not to post, as ‘…I am a stickler for facts…’ and my threats of legal action (if he went ahead) were treated with snorting derision.

The derision was not a challenge it was that he was being so stupid as to think I might deliberately publish anything dishonest.

Just as I have NEVER published a single solitary article comment or article, posting or eMail in any identity other than my own. Unlike the likes of Skeptyk, Independent UKIP and the like I have nothing to be ashamed of and many will be aware I have offered to attend any meeting to answer cross examination on any and all the facts I have presented on this and my many other blogs and postings.

They (the leak’s ultimate source – it was an e-mail originally sent only to me) ended up with their own dedicated weblog, courtesy of GL-W. With a remarkable level of detail and – more importantly – apparent accuracy, to say nothing of appropriately choice adjectives!

I presume the allusion is to CLICK HERE

I was told that the leak had distributed the contents of this 1-to-1 e-mail to a “…wide list of people…”. Hold on, does that constitute ‘libel’?
This ‘politics’ is a strange business!

Steve MORSON’s Original Article CLICK HERE

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#0387* – UKIP MEP Derek CLARK CALLED ON TO RESIGN AS A LIAR

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/03/2011

#0387* – UKIP MEP Derek CLARK CALLED ON TO RESIGN AS A LIAR


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Derek Clark, MEPImage via WikipediaUKIP MEP Derek CLARK CALLED ON TO RESIGN AS A LIAR!

Having like Skeptyk, Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, Independent UKIP, Douglas Denny and others seen fit to lie, and being like them too dishonourable to admit their dishonesty and apologise; as liars Derek Clark, as an MEP living off the public purse, must surely be expected to act honourably and resign – setting an example amongst his vile colleagues!

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Hi,

can we have a firm date for the resignation of the liar, cheat, fraud and low life Derek Clark MEP who has clearly brought UKIP into disrepute with his dishonesty and corruption – his betrayal of the principles of the membership leading to the smashing of the party in The East Midlands which has under his leadership collapsed from nearly 6,000 members to a little over 400 at last count.

Derek Clark as a liar, a bully and having betrayed these United Kingdoms who is still under investigation for fraudulent misuse of funds from the public purse by OLAF and possibly by now Nothants Police as well has no place representing anyone who pretends to the values of these United Kingdoms.

When will Derek Clark act honourably and resign?

When will Derek Clarke act honourably and apologise to me for his public abuse of his public office when at a public meeting he abused his position as entrusted to him and lied and defamed me dishonestly and without justification?

#0347* – UKIP MEP now with the Racist, anti Jewish EFD EXPECTS RESPECT!!! 

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#0303* – EFD Supporter Derek CLARK MEP for UKIP IS BENEATH CONTEMPT

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#0385* – UKIP POISON DRIBBLES OUT ON THE FORUM THEY CONTROL

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/03/2011

#0385* – UKIP POISON DRIBBLES OUT ON THE FORUM THEY CONTROL
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UKIP POISON DRIBBLES OUT ON THE FORUM THEY CONTROL!
The likes of Mick McGOUGH, Skeptyk, Independent UKIP and such scum in UKIP’s septic tank!

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Hi,

having been out almost all day I had a quick look at Junius and as a result on the squalid little Forum Anthony Butcher runs which is controlled by UKIP and hosts many of their lies and liars.

I heard last week from contacts in The EU, that another member was leaving the sordid racist and anti Jewish Pan EU Political EFD Group this I published on a clearly speculatory basis on this blog as any resignation would need to be registerd this week to ensure their position was clear and they gained control of their 4000 budget, their 6000 budget and they were allocated a new seat in the parliament – the next date this will be possible from memory would be July!

These matters have to be tied in to a pleniary session.

As noted the identity was no certainty but once Mick McGough confirmed the rumours to seemingly try to smear Nikki Sinclaire it started to become more clear!

Junius then posted information  and Skeptyk, unable to miss an opportunity to reveal their personality and be unpleasant then claimed that at least one person leaving was, they believed, Trevor Colman who was one of those I speculated may leave. It seems that on the strength of the leaks Junius has gone firm on Trevor Colman at long last acting ethically.

Unless further information comes to hand it does seem that Skeptyk’s information may well be correct as it does confirm what I heard from The EU last week. I presume his letter will have been presented at the parliament earlier today and there may yet be one or more further individuals who have decided to act ethically but to be honest I doubt it as I do not think Andreasen has managed to get the deal she wants yet and neither Bufton nor Batten have as yet shown any kind of ability to stand on their own feet AS YET.

Skeptyk also made a fool of themselves with another comment:

Having said that, I haven’t had Trevor’s resignation confirmed yet. If it’s true, can we expect apologies from Junius and GLW for their allegations that TC was a bent copper and that he took a bung to stay in the EFD

Also given Mike Nattrass‘ total exoneration from OLAF, can we also expect apologies from Junius and GLW for alleging impropriety on Nattrass’ part?

I doubt it but we live in hope…

Idiot that Skeptyk is clearly I can not speak for Junius but I understand that Junius has never claimed that Trevor Colman is a Bent Copper and if you check I believe it was I who branded him just another bent ex copper – by which of course I am perfectly prepared to stand based on the factual evidence provided at the time.

Indeed it was brought to the attention of the police at the time but as they said ‘as far as we are concerned he is just an ex copper and of no relevance’ – that his behaviour has been corrupt is clearly undeniable based on the evidence and facts.

No Skeptyk, unlike you as a man of honour not only do I make a habit of telling the truth but I check my facts and will stand by my comments – dishonesty, corruption, smears and pure unsubstantiable lies and bile are your metiere. In all your years of making a complete fool of yourself making false allegations and seeking to defame based on misrepresentation – to date you have faile miserably to establish a single solitary untruth that I have EVER published to mislead people not a single lie that I have told yet time and again you seek to defame based on YOUR lies and misrepresentation and your sordid blogs, which I am told are childish and obsessive (I do not read the drivel and rarely read your lies and half truths on Butcher’s squalid UKIP Forum as your opinion is so clearly of nil value and rarely accurate).

To the matter of Mike Nattrass – again I can not speak for Junius but obviously as I checked my facts as presented I have not a word to apologise for regarding Mike Nattrass.

When I made the statement that Mike Nattrass was under investigation clearly and accurately I provided the facts available and stated the truth.

Currently I hear that Mike Nattrass has, subsequent to the quotes of fact I made, claimed he was NOT under investigation by OLAF. On checking I found that to be an untruth.

I understand laterly he has claimed that he has a letter from OLAF stating they are taking no further action against him – I ‘presume’ this is akin to a Scottish not proven verdict. I have no reason to believe that OLAF has issued a letter that has exhonourated and absolved him from the irrefutable fact that he was, when I wrote of the matter, under investigation by OLAF.

For more FACTS CLICK HERE

I neither make, nor should I, an appology for having stated the truth and IF Mike Nattrass has been absolved of any wrong doing and he wishes to supply a copy of the letter from OLAF stating he was wrongly investigated then I will most happily publish said letter to bring the matter up to date.

I fear it does rather LOOK as if the matter has been dropped for lack of evidence and without written clarification there is every reason to believe that is the case.

We note that prior to Skeptyk’s assinine comments Junius had published their belief that the OLAF inquiry of Mike Nattrass had been dropped.

It is little wonder that The Sunday Times stood by their report and published, as accurate at the time and also that Skeptyk is too ashamed of their behaviour to put their names to the garbage they publish.

Skeptyk, having published so many beligerent dishonesties any ethical Forum would have placed their name in the public domain and barred them from posting.

Whilst on the matter of cowardice and outright dishonesty perhaps Bob Feel Martinis might care to consider his habitual stupidity where his latest ill informed maunderings were:

Oh dear nothing changes here. Posts without substance designed to create another spat. It seems I haven’t missed much.

He does so consistently make a fool of himself, he so consistently misses almost everythin due it seems to innate stupidity and his lies are legion. The idiotic Blob posted his inane comment long after Mick McGough’s apparent attempt to smear Nikki Sinclaire at 21:15hrs the previous day and well over an hour after Skeptyk had at 16:58hrs. provided the identity of the individual leaving The EFD and in fact after Junius had given further details at 17:09hrs.

Then we have the unpleasant little coward Independent UKIP who also is too ashamed to put their name to their vile AND consistently false efforts to defame and denigrate me – as with:

Should be interesting to see which CIB members stand up in solidarity with filth merchant Greg Lance-Watkins. They will certainly shame CIB if they do so. Will Junius be naming them? Perhaps I should pop along.

Perhaps from his repertoire we might find this egregious piece of human excrement prepared to put his name to his dishonesties.

To date, as a coward with some 4,000 postings, he has spectacularly failed to give an example to back his dishonesties about me, vituperative little inadequate that he is.

It is astonishing that every so often some fool asks why I never joined UKIP – Surely just one look at the odious people who as parasites feed on its corpse, it would be all too obvious. I do not, nor have I ever associated with such dishonourable filth by design or desire and I am all too aware one is judged by the company on keeps – why would anyone wish to be associated with such dishonourable and dishonest people?
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