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#0601* – UN-PROFESSIONAL RESPONSES DEMEAN UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/07/2011

#0601* – UN-PROFESSIONAL RESPONSES DEMEAN UKIP

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~UN-PROFESSIONAL RESPONSES DEMEAN UKIP!
Alan Hardy’s comments serve him ill but he is merely a member!
It does seem when Steve Crowther, Steve Allison or any of the other buffoons speaks out they damage the party credibility!!

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Hi,

one has to wonder whose ‘e’Mails are the more damaging to the cause they ‘claim’ to espouse.

I would submit that Steve Allisons are the more consequential as they are so clearly anti UKIP’s best interests.

So let us see what they have to say for themselves:

Firstly I would contend that Alan Hardy’s comments were far from wise when he stated:

Subject: UKIP’S APPEAL
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:23:22 +0100
From: alan hardy
To: Gordon Parkin , Jonathan Arnott , lisa duffy , , Malcolm Goyns , Nigel Farage , Stephen Allison
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Dear Sirs,

Courtesy of the Court of Appeal: those within UKIP who feel so inclined CANNOT do as they please, they are bound by the law as are the rest of society. And I may add that UKIP faces further legal action unless the decision not to allow former members of the BNP to stand as candidates for the party, as well as for internal posts, is reversed. Indeed I would like to see written evidence that it even exists.

Take note all of you, especially Mr. Farage.

ALAN HARDY
successful litigant.

Clearly one can empathise with Alan Hardy and just as Nigel Farage must have realised he had exposed UKIP to a hiding for nothing and a bill in the region of £30-50K. That  Farage left hurriedly from The Appeal Courts in The Strand it ill becomes Alan Hardy to crow over so obvious a victory.

Perhaps Farage would have served the party better had he read the original judgement which I have posted in full – see The Right Sidebar & click on Alan Hardy etc.

You will note the judgement draws attention to the fact that The BNP issue was clearly no more than a fig leaf etc.

To seek to uphold the fundamentals of basic law is now branded by some of UKIP’s enemies  as being ‘anti UKIP’.

Surely no one would deny UKIP the right to enact into their Constitution, Rules or Manifesto the resolution to prevent past members of The BNP from joining UKIP, on some grounds or other but clearly not on the grounds of Racism, anti Judaism, anti homosexuality or opposition to immigrants as UKIP’s parners in The EU The EFD are not only pro EU membership but have advocated killing Immigrants from North Africa, are avowedly Racist espousing segregation on public transport etc., anti Homosexual advocating dressing them as rabbits and shooting them and include Holocaust Deniers.

That UKIP welcomes membership of such a group yet seeks to ban ex members of The BNP from joining makes their claimed ruling look a little foolish and more a petty rivalry than a point of principle sadly.

That UKIP has a track record of involvement with The BNP members and before them The National Front is indisputable. It is also worth reminding people of UKIP’s own extremist past with the vetting of members by the criminal Gerry Gable via the equally dishonest Mark Croucher and false accusations of membership and association with The BNP.

That Alan Hardy sent his ‘e’Mail makes it look as if he is fronting efforts at bringing in BNP members which I doubt he would be so foolish as to espouse but we may well find his ‘e’Mail is little more than a venting of his anger at the dishonesty of UKIP as he has, I am given to understand, written confirmation from Nigel Farage that he had informed UKIP of his past membership of The BNP and Farage accepted him as a UKIP member specifically.

I still contend Alan Hardy’s ‘e’Mail was unwise whether he wishes to drift out of UKIP seeing them as a spent force or continue his active membership. He has also undermined his own credibility should he be serious in his bluster about further legal action.

I would contend Alan Hardy has harmed his own position but done little harm to UKIP save in costs, which are a mere bagatelle relative to the £Millions Farage has personally made from his position in UKIP.

Let us see if you think Steve Allison’s comments are any more professional or are they effectively anti UKIP in the manner that they damage the party and its credibility since he speaks as an executive of the party, unlike Alan Hardy who is merely an ex member of The BNP who is in dispute with UKIP over his membership status!

Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011
From: steve.allison107@btinternet.com
To: steve.allison107@btinternet.com
Subject:

You may have heard that UKIP lost its appeal in court today against the re-admittance to membership of a Mr.Alan Hardy. This is being spun by certain anti-UKIP Blogs and Websites as a defeat for UKIP and touted an example of how Nigel has been wasting UKIP’s money on personal legal vendettas.

I do not think anyone who knows me would accuse me of being a Nigel Sycophant or someone who believes Nigel can do no wrong, However, in this case I am definitely 100% behind Nigel. Alan Hardy is a former member of the BNP and his case is AT THE MOMENT limited to him. However, I believe that he is being used as a Trojan Horse to force UKIP to accept BNP Members into out ranks and worse. I copy below an e-mail that Hardy sent after the Appeal Court Ruling.

UKIP has to fight this man to the bitter end! We have all worked too hard to destroy the myth that UKIP and the BNP are in any way alike, we must keep out the BNP, this is a fight we cannot afford to lose.

Steve Allison

Let us consider this in some detail:

You may have heard that UKIP lost its appeal in court today against the re-admittance to membership of a Mr.Alan Hardy.

The Court’s ruled that Alan Hardy could not be barred from the party on the grounds given in the light of the facts – may I suggest that those who have UKIP’s long term wellbeing at heart and genuinely support UKIP take the trouble to read the judgement and it becomes clear why The Courts not only found in favour of Alan Hardy but that the original judgement was upheld by The Appeal Courts in The Strand.

This is being spun by certain anti-UKIP Blogs and Websites as a defeat for UKIP and touted an example of how Nigel has been wasting UKIP’s money on personal legal vendettas.

How else could any honest individual see this? I can not speak for anti UKIP blogs as i rarely read them  and then only by accident – sadly the blogs UKIP controls do more than enough damage to UKIP!

Clearly no one is likely to take UKIP seriously as a part of the law making process when it is so clearly in abuse of the law itself and something of a vexatious litigant!

Those who actively seek to support UKIP seek to clean-up the party not provide costly cover for its dishonest executive!


I do not think anyone who knows me would accuse me of being a Nigel Sycophant or someone who believes Nigel can do no wrong,

Perhaps you could show where Steve Allison has intentionally spoken out to clean-up UKIP and make it electable other than in his personal interest!

However, in this case I am definitely 100% behind Nigel.

Steve Allison pretends to balance yet promptly defends Nigel Farage’s ineptitude thereby showing a clear lack of judgement on his own part.

Alan Hardy is a former member of the BNP and his case is AT THE MOMENT limited to him.

Indeed it is and also to the irrefutable fact that UKIP leadership was aware of his past BNP affiliations and actively promoted or at least condoned his membership granting him not only membership of UKIP but as I recall a branch membership status!

However, I believe that he is being used as a Trojan Horse to force UKIP to accept BNP Members into out ranks and worse.

Were that the case do not forget it was Nigel Farage who threw open the gates of Troy and on precedent alone made the entry of The Trojan Horse possible to mix our poets it may be apposite to some to see the engineer hoist on his own petard but I as a supporter of UKIP over many years would like Laocoön caution as so aptly did Virgil with his notable line “Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes”

I copy below an e-mail that Hardy sent after the Appeal Court Ruling.

As per the mailing I received previously and have posted above.


UKIP has to fight this man to the bitter end!

A wise General selects his ground and also his time for battle where an inept fool charges in and looses as have UKIP – Indeed the end will be bitter. You may yet find that in making much of this issue UKIP may yet throw open the gates and stand bereft of clothing for a battle – however aware of the ineptitude of Alan Hardy’s message were it I seeking the well being of UKIP I would act with good grace and grant his membership as the Courts have legally shown in HIS CASE there were no legal grounds used in his removal.

Thereby no precedent will be set and the Trojan Horse can stand at the side of the road to the castle until it is shown to be of no use in smuggling the troops of the claimed enemy into the camp.

We have all worked too hard to destroy the myth that UKIP and the BNP are in any way alike, we must keep out the BNP, this is a fight we cannot afford to lose.

This of course is no more than self serving spin and clearly twaddle when you consider UKIP’s fellowship with ex NF members and the use it has made of ex BNP members – that it is clearly twaddle is shown by UKIP’s associates in The EU – merely BNP with funny accents!!

Steve Allison

Were it I seeking to serve UKIP I would not be wasting members’ money nor undermining UKIP’s credibility but as a long term supporter I would be considering the long term and to that end I would call an immediate NEC meeting. I would enact a rule empowering a sub committee of people seen as honest and of probity from within UKIP which would by deffinition preclude members of The NEC and leadership claque and I would empower them to review every member, starting from the top and reserve the right to refund the membership of any member who fulfilled certaimn criteria in terms of past memberships and Criminal Records.

One would have to take care as to how this was worded as it could well preclude individuals like Derek clark, Nigel Farage, Jeffrey Titford, Graham Booth and the like from membership as they have all fallen foul of the law I understand and have had to repay monies they fraudulently obtained or dishonestly used. I understand we are yet to hear the outcome of the case against Stuart Agnew and that against David Bannerman though I gather Mike Nattrass has withdrawn his claim against The Sunday Times and they are to publish an update that subsequent to their earlier article OLAF have decided to take no further action against Mike Nattrass.

In the matter of cleaning up UKIP the party would be well served were it to put before the committee as constituted such individuals as Annabelle Fuller, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Andrew Smith, Hugh Williams and others who through their fantasies and dishonesty have corrupted UKIP and demeaned its reputation as a credible political force.

I wonder what the anti UKIP bloggers that Steve Allison seems to follow will make of dealing with the truth and on what leg they would seek to stand if UKIP were cleaned-up and presented a credible professional stance with vision, strategy, tactics a plan – training and a structure that would make them presentable to the informed electorate and encourage activists to rejoin with probity and transparency.

Until that time UKIP defames itself daily on its own controlled blogs such that one wonders what an anti UKIP blog would find to write about – though Steve Alison has made a pretty fair fist of showing us by example.

As a supporter I am all too well aware that unless UKIP makes these moves towards professionalising they are increasingly a part of the problem when it comes to leaving The EU and have no place in the solution.

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#0599* – UKIP & FARAGE LACK BASIC MORALITY or ETHICS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/07/2011

#0599* – UKIP & FARAGE LACK BASIC MORALITY or ETHICS

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~UKIP, FARAGE & The Leadership Claque LACK BASIC MORALITY or ETHICS!

Again and again they believe they are above the law and hold Britain and OUR Courts in contempt!

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further to my having posted the outcome of UKIP’s idiotic debacle in the Appeal Court this week – more details of which can be found at CLICK HERE – A perfectly rational question was asked of me, as posted below, to which I responded as shown:

Re: UKIP Lose Yet Again In The Courts!

Originally Posted by Streetwalker 

You post regually about the quality of personel that UKIP attracts ,of the connections with other European parties with questionable policies (EFD) . Over the years UKIP have expelled /refused membership to various undesirables . UKIP it seems are doing ,or rather trying to do exactly what you have long surgested in cleaning up its act . It would seem that ex BNP member Hardy had not changed his ultra right wing views after all .
UKIP’s one fault here is taking the advice of the legal proffesion to appeal the case . Sometimes you have to walk away , even when you are in the right.

My Reply:

Hi,

if only that was the basic truth I would agree with you – It is not.

UKIP’s inept and corrupt leadership has, as so often before, chosen to invent its rules on the hoof – do read the full judgement which can be see at CLICK HERE UKIP seem to believe, in their ineptitude and mismanagement, that they can have different rules for different people and as a result they make utter fools of themselves.

We note ex Deputy Leader and Party Chairman David Bannerman has made the written statement that Farage incurs an annual legal bill of around £140,000 AFAIR.

Fortunately David Bannerman, a liar, cheat and low life has decamped to The Tories as I predicted 7 years ago!

I totally endorse any action to clean-up UKIP, as without it they are a part of the problem and no part of the solution.

Breaking the laws of the land and being found guilty on a serial basis is no example for ANY politician to set – That is NOT cleaning up the party that is further befouling it – just as having different rules at different times for different people and liars and cheats like Mick McGough, Stuart Agnew, Marta Andreasen Derek Clark and their ilk as members of their leadership team makes them look no more than foolish – hence they have less than 30 people in elected office out of some 19,500 seats available – after 18 years!

I entirely agree that The BNP is a vile and contemptible organisation and I believe UKIP should NOT encourage racists and the anti Jewish low lifes that gather around the BNP to join without a panel clearance (3 months of ill informed membership of the BNP and a denunciation may well be a Patriot looking for a home rather than a Nationalist!). Be minded that Nigel Farage, as effectively THE PARTY, employed a BNP member as an election agent!

Do remember Nigel Farage who makes all the rules with a claque of chosen sycophants and boot lickers invited his family friend Buster Mottram to join UKIP against advice!

You may remember the outrageous comments of Nigel Farage’s puppet Malcolm Pearson that were so offensive to Muslims.

You may well have noted that UKIP endorses the killing of North African immigrants as espoused by their partners in the EFD Group.

Indeed cleaning up UKIP to try to make them electable, by informed decent people, is long over due and if they are unwilling to act with morality and ethically, show vision, display strategy, effect tactics and devise an exit and survival strategy after 18 years then PERHAPS they are working for The EU, rather than for withdrawal, as they have astonishingly NEVER had training sessions, an organisational structure or one wit of professionalism – do they assist The EU on purpose?

It has proved hugely rewarding for a small claque who feed at the troughs on the gravy train!

Regards,
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#0258* – Farage and The BNP, UKIP Corruption and Good work by Sinclaire & Nattrass

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/01/2011

#0258* – Farage and The BNP, UKIP Corruption and Good work by Sinclaire & Nattrass!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
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 Nigel FARAGE and The BNP + UKIP Corruption and Good work being done by UKIP’s remaining MEPs Nikki SINCLAIRE & Mike NATTRASS!

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One of  the great advantages that we British have always enjoyed has been the almost universal acceptance of the English language.
Now we have the news that the Russian government has decided it will operate bilingually, in Russian and English. This opens up political, economic, and social opportunities for us far beyond any benefits we may get from our membership of the EU. As Russia emerges as one of the three power poles in Europe (the other two being the EU and Turkey) the official adoption of English as a working laguage of the political elites presents us with an opportunity of a lifetime. Let us hope HMG doesn’t let this one slip away – or hand it over to the EU!

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Hi,

a good point well made on Nikki Sinclaire‘s blog – Nice to see a UKIP MEP making constructive comments rather than endless navel gazing and exploitation of the Gravy Train – Do bear in mind that this work Sinclaire is doing is very much allied to her efforts which she funds with her EU budget and her own salary to promote The Petition for an EU Referendum on IN or OUT working in co-operation with the EUReferendum Group.

Fuller details can be found at http://TheMidnightGroup.blogspot.com

Sinclaire is one of only two UKIP MEPs who have the integrity to act in the interests of UKIP unlike those that have been largely subsumed into the vile Racist, anti Jewish, sexually intollerant and violent grouping of The EFD in the EU.

Mike Nattrass & Nikki Sinclaire are all that is left of the honourable UKIP membership’s representation.

Just think of what UKIP might have achieved if its leadership had not fallen to the hands of bounders and nere do wells, racists and holocaust deniers.

It is astonishing to realise that in 17 years UKIP has NEVER had a period of open, transparent effort to extricate Britain from The EU.

The inept and self serving leadership have been either puppets or on the make and the take.

UKIP has never had sound backing as none but gamblers would seem to be interested and then only as some hobby as with Stuart Wheeler – never has the party had a sound financial structure merely lurching from one milch cow to the next.

In 17 years out of 19,500 seats available for election what has UKIP to show for its efforts at grass roots a staggering 14 Councillors and two remaining honourable MEPs.

Now we have another geriatric gambler lurch in to fund UKIP as a plaything duped once more by Farage – how long will this last? It wasn’t long before Stuart Wheeler pulled out last time in contempt at the sqabbling fools and unwilling to trust UKIP Leadership with his money – he moved away and set up in competition causing huge damage to the flagging faith and trust a few still had in UKIP under the band of liars, racists, crooks, fantasists and clowns that form their leadership.

Wheeler has returned for yet another throw of the dice but how long will his craps pitch last this time even though he has so little trust he has insisted in being both dealer and banker!

I gather for his honesty and in a desperate last bid to avoid a wipeout at the employment trial and imn The High Court by Nikki Sinclaire belatedly Steve Crowther was dispatched in the first week of January to try to con Mike Nattrass into betrayal of UKIP principles by becoming a member of the racist, xenophobic and anti Jewish EFD Group he had on principle quit – What part of stupid is Steve Crowther?

I guess just like the rest of the nebisches and parasites Farage hires Steve Crowther will prostitute himself to any idiot idea to curry favour and get paid! Yet another paid parasite hired as a praise singer for the insecure and inadequate nigel Farage who surrounds himself with liars, cheats and trash in a desperate attempt to look competent rather than just being seen for the self serving cunning spiv he is.

Having predictably failed to con Nattrass the next move to try to build a defence for themselves is to belatedly call Nattrass to attend an NEC meeting to have his wrists slapped like a child by the trash on the NEC.

OK Yes Trash – name ONE individual on the NEC you would both trust, employ and welcome as a friend – Nutters, liars, cheats and fools without exception they are without ethics, morality or integrity or they would not sit along side low lifes, cheats and liars the likes of George Curtis, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Peter Reeve, Lizard Uffy, Derek Clark, Jonathan Arnott, Hugh Williams, David Bannerman, Paul Nuttall and the like!

I note Paul Nuttal has taken a shine to that sordid little bottom feeder and grade A coward  and two bit bent piece of pond life Jon Paul Ison – he even made his new chum a member of the disciplinary committee despite the fact that he didn’t even apply I am reliably told. A bit like putting Mick McGough, George Curtis, Hugh Williams and Douglas Denny on a disciplinary committee because everyone knows they are cheats and liars not to be trusted.

Almost as funny as having a Barcelona resident who was dumped as one of the many accountants at the OECD and one of 1,000s at The EU as treasurer of The UNITED KINGDOM INDEPENDENCE Party!

As astonishingly hypocritical as Nigel Farage castigating the English Democrats because they permitted the ex BNP member Barnbrook to join them whilst Farage himself is not EX Racist he is the leader of The EFD Group an overtly Racist, Xenophobic, anti Jewish, sexually intollerant grouping in the EU.

But then again not only is it understood that Lt. Guy Farage – Nigel’s Father was either a full member or a close associate of the National Front and Nigel foist his long term family friend Buster Motram on UKIP in the pretence he was a celebrity!
Nigel’s own Political agent was ex BNP and it was Nigel who cleared the way for Alan Hardy to join the party after he left The BNP.

Nigel’s ties with the BNP are clear and it was at one time understood that he made overtures to join The BNP as stated in The Sunday Times and no retraction was ever published nor letter made public so on the standards of belief shown by UKIP’s corrupt defenders it must be true (see: CLICK HERE)

Just think for a moment of the huge amount of effort made by Nigel Farage and his dishonest and corrupt little friend Mark Croucher put into raising the profile of The BNP at every opportunity thereby ensuring they remained in the public eye and had two MEPs elected.

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