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#265* – letter 5+ A VICIOUS OLD FAILURE IN EUkip

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/02/2009

#265* – A VICIOUS OLD FAILURE IN EUkip
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

A VICIOUS OLD FAILURE IN EUkip IT IS SAD THAT AFTER A LIFETIME OF FAILURE CHRISTOPHER GILL VENTS HIS NAKED AMBITION – AN OLD MAN IN A HURRY!
Hi,

I assume you are up to speed with the fact that The Faragista Fan Club will stoop to any level to force through their unarguably corrupt self serving ammendments to The EUkip Constitution.

One can safely assume that the changes WILL be imposed on the members with claims of democracy – in the style of The EU and Oh so redollent of the saying attributed to Jo Stalin ‘It doesn’t matter how they cast their votes it only matters how we count them’!

That Farage in increasing panic and desparation is trying to force through these divisive fundamental change should scare the members, but most are the ‘Armchair’ members whose lack of knowledge is the fact on which the corruption is dependent, who know little of the dishonesty, corruption, profligacy, irresponsibility and drunken womanising of their leadership – It will come as no shock to anyone that dressing up as a chicken, running around in a 1950s Ferret scout car, standing in the turret of an APC (Armoured Personelle Carrier) on a transporter trolley and pretending its a tank like a little boy at the Imperial War Museum has not and will not get Britain one inch closer to the Exit from the EU.

The series of letters and links to the actual texts which expose the dishonesty and the probable motives for that dishonesty can be found if you CLICK HERE

Now we have

THE FIFTH LETTER:

(Series original in BLUE my comments in BLACK)
Here is the text of a vile little letter by the failed and discreditted Christopher Gill an ex Tory MP from 1987 to 2001.

The letter was in response to the following letter from a long term member, who clearly does not understand the motivation of those who are within reach of the troughs on the gravy train!

CC: bmhuxley@btinternet.com; carolbowers@btinternet.com; chrisandrose@idnet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk; Diana@mga-planning.co.uk; nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; george.earle@talk21.com; guyleventorres@hotmail.co.uk; haroldepearce@hotmail.co.uk; irfrancis@onetel.com; leonmullett@hotmail.com; mjbedford@uwclub.net; p.huxley321@btinternet.com; plind.00@btopenworld.com; Sonyaporter@aol.com; gawain.towler@europarl.europa.eu; ukipho@btconnect.com; mail@ukip.org; william@williamdartmouth.com
Subject: circular letter from Sir Richard Body and others.
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:20:35 +0000
David,

Re phone call. As I told you I spoke to Chris Browne about this and he agrees with me. What on earth are we doing worrying about amendments to the Constitution at this time? The people who sent the letter out make this point forcibly and I agree with them “At a time when every effort should be directed to our June election campaign, the NEC is wasting time and money on divisive and controversial changes to the UKIP Constitution. It is now holding a members` referendum on this”.

I urge the powers that be to have a quick rethink and issue a statement withdrawing this proposal. If they don`t it will all leak out and much damge to our cause will result. Immediately, if not sooner!

Regards,

Ted

To understand the motivation and naked determination of the corrupt to get their snouts in the troughs , you will understand those living from the troughs or from the crumbs that fall from it and why there is no depth of depravity in their naked ambition – ever willing to lie besmirch and befoul the names of the messengers who seek to spread the truth about the corruption of Farage and his cronies.

NEVER forget Farage was NOT elected as leaders the election was like the NEC elections utterly corrupt as was the selection of MEP candidates – hence a preponderance of liars, the discreditted and cheats topping lists.

To understand a little better the benefits for EUkip’s MEPs watch this CLICK HERE

To understand the level of corruption to achieve a position at the troughs read this CLICK HERE

Christopher Gill the geriatric Tory, who having been born with a substantial sausage making business so aptly named FA Gill Ltd. and abatoirres and a meat processing business achived virtually nothing in his 13 years in Parliament where he was known by his own Tory side as ‘The Butcher of Ludlow’.

Gill has, as a member of ‘The Faragista Fan Club’ supporting corruption, has been dispatcvhed to answer Edward Huxtable’s letter:

From: Christopher Gill cgill36@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: FW: circular letter from Sir Richard Body and others.
To: “Douglas Denny” , “Derek Bennett” , “Derek Clark” , “Don Ransome” , “Andrew Smith” , “Chris Woodward” , “Cilla Bethell” , “David Campbell Bannerman” , “David Samuel” , “David Sinclair” , “David Willoughby de Broke” , “George Curtis” , “George Earle” , “Gerard Batten” , “Jane Collins” , “John Kelly” , “John Whittaker” , “Jonathan Arnott” , “Kenneth Irvine” , “Lawrence Webb” , “Lynnda Robson” , “Malcolm Pearson” , “Mick McGough” , “Peter Adams” , “Robin Collet” , “Stephen Allison” , “Steve Harris” , “Stuart Gulleford” ukipeast@intamail.com
Date: Friday, 30 January, 2009, 11:48 AM

From: cgill36@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: RE: circular letter from Sir Richard Body and others.
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:08:23 +0000

Ted,Please take it from me that the letter that you have received from Roger Knapman is designed to cause maximum disruption and demoralisation at a time when all our focus should be upon launching a succesful campaign for the EP Election.
It is interesting that in carrying out Farages orders this odious little man seeks to shift blame to Roger Knapman, who let us face it has come late to courage and integrity but he is at least trying to prevent the corruption which Gill seeks to promote.

CONSIDER: It was in fact Farage’s puppets and nodding donkeys who to date have colluded in a corrupt leadership, a corrupt election, a corrupt and dishonest attack on elected members of the NEC who would not aquiesce to the dishonesty and incompetence of the leadership and NEC – they were elected to represent the members not massage Farage’s ego and prop up his insecurities and profligacy.

Correct me if I am wrong but was it not Farage and his puppet NEC which issued this devisive attempt to centralise power without responsibility at a time when they should have been motivating and rallying ‘the troops’ not divisively ‘screwing’ them and abusing them!

The accusation that the NEC has only recently started to discuss the election campaign is simply not true.
Gill is correct here but the discussion has been minimal and there is no clear startegy and they are without tactics of adequate funding since no one trusts them!

There is no one YES No One on the NEC with the vaguest clue of marketing, campaigning or strategic management or tactics. NO not one.

Remember a single FACT in 15 years EUkip has never once had a single solitary training campaign.

The fact of the matter is that until they were expelled from the NEC the behaviour of certain members frustrated all attempts at progress
Gill is correct – they vigerously campaigned to establish how much of the member’s money was being stuffed in pockets also who was liable for debts. They also campaigned that The Constitution was obeyed, the meetings conducted in an orderly and professional manner.

They were representing the interests of members, NOT the well being of the corrupt!

Gill overlooks the fact that I and others have direct contacts on the NEC and the staff of EUkip, also that I have read the minutes and obtained recordings.

Christopher Gill is not so much being economical with the truth he is telling lies!

Christopher Gill you will recall utterly failed to acquit his duties in the recent selection of MEP candidates and is also under investigation by the Data Protection Commissioner for his breech of duty of care as are Ma Zucherman and others.

(hence the need to change the Party rules) and I am convinced that this was a deliberate tactic.
Christopher Gill is either a fool if he believes this or a liar.

I would not go so far as to say that all of the signatories to the letter have links to the BNP
Shame on Gill to use such a dishonest and duplicitous smear – perhaps he would care to justify his comment – some may recall that liars in EUkip have attributed that soubriquette to me as they have claimed I have criminal convictions for receiving stolen goods, they have also tried to claim I work for MI5, MI6, CIA, BNP, The EU, all of which are outright lies.

Watch that video clip again and learn something of EUkip and its dishonesty and corruption. A drunken womanising who consorts with prostitutes and cheats as leader with a libertarian attitude to other people’s money and without any of the skills of a lerader a failed City Barrow Boy!

A deputy leader who is a liar and a cheat who having proved a serial failure as a Tory – you will recall he promised 17 Policy documents by February and he hasn’t produced a single competent document the 7 he has produced are unsourced, unsubstantiated, amateur, badly spelt, poorly laid out and uncosted – well poor chap he has a full time job working in a salaried position for the EU.

A Chairman who is just a sad puppet strutting around, unelected, as Farage’s puppet and posturing as a puppet Mussolini.

It would be funny if it wasn’t my Country at stake!

– some almost certainly do
I note this gutless little worm of a man clearly lacks the facts and the manhood to put names to his smears – let us not forget that Nigel Farage has a long record of contact with The BNP and isn’t Buster Motram, claimed to be BNP by Farage, involved in a relationship with Farage’s relation and was not his Father connected to a similar party as was Jeffrey Titford, Mick Natrass and others?

but there are one or two others who I suspect have simply been duped into lending their support without recognising the ulterior motive.

My word more smears from this maggot of humanity!
At the time of the Maastricht rebellion you may recall that when ‘push came to shove’ Knapman abandoned us so-called rebels and voted with the Government. What else he did to betray the cause we may never know but it is, of course, common knowledge that he was subsequently rewarded by promotion to Govenment Whip !
Yes a FACT known to all of us when it was decided that the ONLY contenders for the leadership at the time were Ian Gilman and Damien Hockney and Hockney had not actually put his papers in! clearly neither had the competence, stature, experience or ability and Knapman had several years experience as an MP and was fundamentally on side.
We all knew he was a weak and pompous ass as was he not very bright nor good on the media but without a doubt he was the best available.

What a disgusting, underhand, dishonourable way for this odious failed Tory to behave – shame on you Gill. But we all know Gill you were an idiot and far from popular at school – you really haven’t improved much have you!

I feel sure that you will do your best to help us discredit the ‘enemy within’ so that we can all get on with the serious business of making a really good show in June.Yours sincerely,Christopher.
Christopher Gill is that enemy within a venal and dishonest boot licker striving to prop up dishonesty and corruption – The Leadership and NEC of EUkip.

One of the outcomes of Christopher Gill’s scurrilous and underhand letter was a response from Piers Merchant a signator of LETTER 01 – see details at CLICK HERE

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:45:42 +0000

Subject: Your email circular
Christopher

I have had a number of calls from people who are upset that you have sent them an email in which you imply that Dick, Roger, Tim and I have links with the BNP or are dupes.

I am not sure why you would want to suggest that but such claims are simply not credible. You must realise it is an absurd suggestion. I am afraid that the people who have spoken to me have indicated that it is hardly helping your argument.

The other signatories of the letter may not have the same clear political record as us, but none of them have any links whatsoever with the BNP and we are quite certain of that. We would not have signed a letter with them had that been the case.

We have every right to express our views on the proposed constitution changes. It was not us who called a referendum of members on the issue and I am sure you would agree that where there is a referendum participants have a right to hear all viewpoints.

I signed the letter because I drafted the original constitution together with Petrina Holdsworth. It was drafted very carefully to take account of the criticisms of a High Court judge at a judicial review hearing; we took especial care to draft the discipline rules with that in mind.

The proposed changes undo that careful work in a haphazard way and if made will cause problems in the future.

I did not join UKIP or put hours of my time into it in order to inflict “maximum damage and demoralisation” on the party. Why on earth would I do that? But I do have a right to express my views.

I remind you again that it was not us that raised the issue but the NEC. Crucially, why on earth the NEC should want to do so three months before a major election campaign is beyond me.

Kind regards

Piers

Clearly I endorse every word of this measured and accurate rebuttal of Christopher Gill’s hysterical, duplicitous and self serving pack of lies, which clearly brings EUkip’s leadership into disrepute and thus not just Christopher Gill but The Party itself – in the run up to an election that would seem all too clearly to be a total dishonest scam to get Farage back on the Gravy Train with little or no thought for UKIP its members and the principled patriotic aim to GET BRITAIN OUT of The centralised, corrupt, undemocratice EU – all too clearly Farage & EUkip’s role model!!

We note Gill TRIED to respond!

From: cgill36@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: RE: Your email circular
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:38:48 +0000
PiersPlease spare me the righteous indignation and explain:

A. How you and/or others obtained prior knowledge of decisions made at a private and confidential meeting of the NEC.
Clearly because there are still a few honest me and women left either in leadership, NEC or with access who are unhappy with the dishonesty and have provided me, and now I realise others, with full minutes, outline minutes, recordings and details.

Perhaps this odious little man would care to explain why the NEC are so ashamed of what they are doing that they did not wish transparency!

B. Why you took it upon yourselves to misrepresent those decisions to the membership of the Party, even before the members had themselves been officially notified.
Gill has failed totally, as has The Faragista Fan Club to identify a single solitary misrepresentation by Sir Richard Body, Tim Condon, Roger Knapman, Dr. David Abbott, Dr. Eric Edmond and other utterly unimpeachable individuals – can he possibly be implying that these gentlemen are in fact telling lies?

Consider the signator to The Faragista Fan Club’s letter, very few of them are to be trusted, almost none have shown any discernible integrity, ethics, morality or principles and in fact it is easy to identify at least 50% and PROVE they are liars and cheats.

C. From whom you obtained and used a Party database in a totally unauthorised way, knowing that this would be an offence under the Data Protection Act.

I know by comparison of that which I have gleaned that they did not use an upto date list as the one I have is more upto date – they did not use either of mine!

Why should not executives and officers of EUkip use the Political membership list for political purposes to open discussion of so consequential a matter?

Let us consider the other side of the coin Gill flips to suit his duplicity – what list and by what morality has the leadership discussed behind closed doors dishonest attempts to distance the party from the members, place no evidence in the hands of the members and duplicitously seek to set up a Limited Company by vote of members without provision of either the articles of association or any kind of prospectus!

It is morally reprehensible that the claque of low lifes and liars , nodding donkeys and placemen Farage has gathered around him for his personal gain should pretend to integrity yet yuse a venal old fool to promote their cause to centralise power and disenfranchise members whilst asking those same members to sign a blank cheque on the formation of a company.

You must be aware that enavtment of these ammendments permit of the leader together with little check or balance to fire any member who stands between him and granting himself a salary of every penny piece in the kitty and all that he can borrow – heaven forfend he should do this but we are absolutely certain that those leading EUkip are dishonest, are prepared to cheat, will lie to the authorities and can not be trusted.

You will be aware that at least a £Million can be established to seem to have been trousered from monies related to EUkip.

At least 4 EUkip MEPs are under investigation by OLAF and or the British Police ONE MEP uis under arrest and currently on bail and ONE has been in prison during his elected period.

Also it is likely that EUkip MEP candidate Gawain Towler will be shortly investigated for a crime his wife published, that he has confessed to to Malcolm Wood and another of whom I am aware which may well lead to a custody sentence and restrictions of his employment for the rest of his life – as discussed by various committees within EUkip and due to ban management and incompetent leadership is still not resolved for further and more accurate details CLICK HERE

You will also be aware that EUkip Press Officer Clive Page has a recent conviction for Benefit Fraud CLICK HERE also I am sure you are aware that Malcom wood Regional organiser is a liar and a cheat which is easily proven and Peter Reeve also onearage’s placements Regional Organiser in the much betrayed Eastern Region is not only a liar and a cheat but is answering to a witnessed and substantiated common assault of a member, in his official capacity, complaint and under investigation by The Revenue and Customs Department.

No clearly those who signed The Faragista Fan Club’s grab for power and creation of a potential escape hatch without liability are not to be trusted and nor are their nodding donkeys such as Hugh Williams.

Interestingly EUkip’s Party Secretary is under investigation by The Law Society which has received several unrelated complaints. He has also colluded in Witness Intimidation in collusion with Jeffrey Titford and similar behaviour related to Niall Warry!

It is , of course, entirely your own business
Indeed it is and what is your point – we note EUkip’s utterly discreditted leadership and puppet NEC merely used EUkip member’s money to advertise THEIR one sided claim without any democratic balance.

as to how your mischievous mail-out
We note this dishonest rascall Gill represents a democratic letter balancing a dishonest undemocratic attempt to centralise power as with The EU for the benefit of the leadership as ‘mischievous’ HOW SHAMEFULL!

was financed but it stands to reason that a not inconsiderable cost was incurred by someone.
I believe that the members will agree that members will agree with me that whoever paid this money to try to inform and democratise deserves not only our thanks but should be re-imbersed.

I remain to be convinced that what you and others have done was not deliberate, premeditated and intended to cause maximum disruption at a crucial time.
Perhaps Gill could explain the difference in the distribution at the cost of the members of an undemocratic and markedly fascist centralisation of power as an effort to protect the leadership – based on an utterly dishonest attempt to create a ‘Reichstag Fire’ incident to justify the dishonesty – clearly done at this time without ANY strategy, training, tactics or vision for the elections – was this done deliberately by the failed leadership to be disruptive and divisive to pass off the blame for failure.

How had a privately funded effort to introduce information, integrity and discussion to the dishonest and rigged efforts of the charlatans on the NEC and the liars around them.

Unless you can satisfactorily answer the questions posed above I see no point in continuing this correspondence.Yours sincerely,Christopher.

Since clearly Christopher Gill’s duplicitous, dishonourable and shamefull efforts to denigrate democracy has been clearly exposed as dishonest I would contend had he a shred of honour he would publish an appology and resign from membership as having brought EUkip into disrepute.

It is a probability that this corrupt attempt to enact these changes will meet with a yes vote but do realise to enact the changes will be an act of dishonesty by untrustworth scum who have been reliant on a failure of understanding by those who vote, a failure deliberately engineered by the corrupt as unarguably shown by the panic engendered and the lies by The Faragista Fan Club members like Hugh Williams, Christopher Gill and all those who signed the second letter from the Faragista Fan Club.

Those who signed The Faragista clique’s duplicitous letters should consider their position and being entramelled in this shamefull act would were they honourable resign from EUkip and join with The BNP who have a history of a more fascist style that would seem to suit them possibly better. Alternatively perhaps they should join with Libertas which is founded on a fundamental dishonesty as displayed by Farage and his claque.

Let us see if ANY of them display one shred of honour and integrity – but don’t hold your breath!

TO LEAVE THE EU

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!
I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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