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#577* – FARAGE 06-Mar-09 & THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/07/2009

#577* – FARAGE 06-Mar-09 & THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Nigel FARAGE 06-Mar-09 & THE BENEFITS TO ME OF HINDSIGHT!!

Hi,

It is at times pleasant to have the benefits of hindsight it tends to make up for the lack of researchers, staff, spin doctors and speech writers enjoyed by those we pay as politicians who all too frequently use their income (our money) to hire people competent enough to do the job which we misguidedly elected them to).

It is hardly surprising that we now have some 30,000 people in elected office costing us over £500,000,000. Of those 30,000 I understand EUkip has 13 pieces of garbage elected as MEPs on the dustbin protest vote and around a handfull of councillors – though I am unprepared to plough through all the lists to see if they have 4 or 14 County or Unitary District seats as we know they have none on any of the EU Assembly Regions like Wales, Scotland or London let alone the other ones on the same status like East Midlands, South West or Eastern Region.

So let us be generous and permit EUkip the delusion that something less than 30 seats out of a total of 30,000 available is in some way of consequence!

As you can see Nigel Farage appended his name to this article in the media – both sourced and dated for you – now let us look at what he has to say in blue and comment on it in black:

The EU is ignoring the will of the people
Poll after poll tells us that the British people do not want to be signed up to the Lisbon treaty, but our political masters carry on regardless, says Nigel Farage.

Yes true but there is an absolute dirth of anyone of any credibility leading any kind of opposition to it. EUkip had its chance and chose to sit on its hands and its money in Brussells and did absolutely nothing bar fall out with the faintly ridiculous Declan Ganley who went on to show just how politically inept and ridiculous he was, with Libertas and a few naiive political idiots.

By Nigel Farage
Published: 2:42PM GMT 06 Mar 2009

The joys of hindsight!

That I would agree with a European President of anything, on anything, would normally be considered a sign of the coming apocalypse.

Rubbish – you whole heartedly agreed with the principles of GREATER Subsidiarity and co-operating with the EU by working on its committees to increase their control over we vassal states and he sent his goffer and official butt licker the utterly dishonourable geriatric Derek Clark to sign the documents betraying Britain.

However, when it’s the current President of the European Union (and Czech President) Vaclav Klaus, there has indeed been a meeting of minds.

If he expected to meet any kind of political mind let us hope Vaclav Klaus brought a magnifying glass for his dealings with EUkip, though it was probably more useful and considerably safer to have used a telescope to espy them in the distance sitting in the pub!

We agree that one of the biggest problems we collectively face is that certain entirely legitimate political views are being ruled out of order, simply not worthy of consideration. Our own shared euroscepticism, for example, our insistence that we can cooperate and trade without being part of an ever closer political union, is at risk of being smeared as nothing but racism and xenophobic petty nationalism.

EUkip with all its publicity for drunken whoring and lack of professionalism, its propensity for seemingly trousering much of their funding and their endless promotion of the BNP has done little to make them credible but much to undermine EUroRealism. Indubitably they are without gravitas or political wisdom and a cheeky chappie with a ready quip is seen as little more than a performing monkey – what EUkip desparately needs is an organ grinder of some stature as it is clear the tune they have to play on their organ is immensly popular as poll after poll shows – it is just that EUkip’s venal stupidity gets in the way of votes!

It is clear that Farage’s Reichstag Fire Moments of endlessly screaching about being under attack has merely raised the profile of The BNP and ensure they had 2 MEPs elected – though clearly a spin off was the amount of publicity EUkip was given by people like The BBC & other media as a bulwark against the BNP. Farage worked wonders for the BNP as they well know – a recruiting sargeant par excelence!

It is my belief that Vaclav Klaus is a man of integrity and principles with the integrity to stand alone for what he believes in – nothing could be further from the role model of EUkip who have made it clear they are corrupt, untrustworthy and no more than political prostitutes willing to jump into bed with anyone for self enrichment and their own glory.

Klaus’ most important concern goes to the heart of the problem with most of our political class. Poll after poll tells us that the British people do not want to be signed up to the Lisbon treaty, that if there was that referendum we were promised then the result would be a resounding no. Polls with a slightly different question, should we leave the EU altogether, also show a majority in favour of leaving the integrationists to their own devices. We’ll be quite happy trading with everyone, co-operating where necessary and desirable, but we don’t want to be part of this political union: the only form of Europe that is currently on offer. The majority are eurosceptics but unfortunately most politicians disagree with their own voters.

Indeed Klaus is right and the British people would almost deffinitely not only vote against the New Constitution Lisbon Treaty but also against membership of the EU if politicians had the courage to put it to the vote and the integrity not to load the question and the morality not to fund or speak to the motion outside of Parlaiment.

However when there was the opportunity to make a difference before and during the Parliamentary Stitch Up debates EUkip were conspicuous not only by their absence but also by their complete and utter silence – so as to aid the EU??

President Klaus, in the meeting we had this week, pointed out why. For example, David Cameron, in common with all too many others, is too worried about being “popular amongst politicians”. There’s a groupthink that the answer to any and every question is more Europe. Even if the people vote no, as the French, Dutch and Irish have done, then they must be asked again until they give the correct answer. The political classes do not think that they are there to do as the people want; the aim is to get the people to do as the politicians want.

& what precisely have EUkip done to enlighten the British public en mass as their leadership sat around in the bars and bordellos of the Government capital. What gain was there in spreading the message to the peoples of Britain in a few speeches crafted by the staff on the floor of the toy parliament of utter irrelevance. Who listened? Who cares?

Were the EUkip MEPs and staff thinking of anything much beyond how they got themselves and their chums re-elected – just what might have brought the activities of the EU to the attention of the people of Britain – EUkip hasn’t managed to produce so much as a competent newsletter, has never had or given any training and its Independence Comic has been produced by liars like Croucher and various other low lifes and has in the main gone in the bin in derision at its amateurism judging by many of the more intelligent members I have known over the years.

EUkip’s failed leadership and staff haven’t even managed to provide regular briefing papers on issues for widespread distribution. They have proved a complete self serving waste of space for 16 years.

I’m proud of the way that we in UKIP have been able to stop this pernicious view of democracy from entirely taking over.

Then sir you are delusional – EUkip’s achievements have been miniscule and in many ways have done more damage than good to the EUroSceptic cause with the endless bad publicity, dishonesty and squabbling.

When we started, some 16 years ago, even to question the grand project was to be dismissed as near lunacy. What we’ve been able to achieve is to make questioning the aim of ever further integration an entirely respectable position.

Think how respectable it would have been if Farage had not thought it acceptable to behave like Berlesconni and consort with prostitutes and if EUkip MEPs had refrained from public appearances drunk! No sir you and the scum you have gathered around you have never made ANYTHING ‘respectable’ – you lack the Officer Qualities and very little that emanates from self important martinettes has ever been ‘respectable’.

Achievement against the EU has been inspite of not because of EUkip, as with the £250,000 of tax payers money provided for a petition which was seemingly traousered by Lott, Farage and cronies as there was no petition ever raised!

Consider what could have been achieved with the funds raised by the various call centres where with Ashford less than 15% ever reached EUkip and the rest was seemingly trousered! Think what could have been done with that money in terms of training and briefing papers alone!

It isn’t a view held just by cranks and gadflies, as we have been described, but one that led to UKIP coming third in the last European elections. However, in the upcoming ones on June 4th, there is a danger that this hard won position will be threatened.

No indeed as a gamble and for various reasons the racists, cranks and gadflies of EUkip were given a chance – and well you may remember why and the two slogans I provided of ‘Just Say NO’ which I carried over from our work and efforts in The Welsh Devolution where EUkip were all but invisible – Farage’s mate the drunken befrocked phillanderer who did EUkip such damage later on in Wales had not as yet been parachuted in as a drinking budy!

Then there was the slogan ‘Lend Us Your Vote’ which came from myself, Harry & Jean Randall, Bill & Anne Woodhouse and Peter Watson – I believe that was EUkip’s last intelligent political thought such that they are still repeating it. All else has been bitchy, vile, dishonesty, bullying and emmulation of the BNP and even the Nazi Party with Farage’s own ‘Reichstag Fire’ moment claiming BNP infiltration when there was none beyond the family friend FARAGE invited to present a contingency opinion on constituency splitting.

It doesn’t logically follow that if fascists are eurosceptic then eurosceptics are fascists.

However Farage and his fascistic leadership methods, bullying, lies and deceit have rather made it look that way and his new neo nazi grouping in the EU as a pan EU party group colluding with some of the most vile politicians seen in the EU since Eichmann, Goebbels, Mitterand, Mandelson and Kurt Waldheim:

COUNTRY PARTY MEPs
Denmark Dansk Folkeparti 2
Finland True Finns 1
France Libertas France 1
Greece LAOS 2
Italy Lega Nord 9
Netherlands Reformed Political Party 1
Slovakia Slovak National Party 1
United Kingdom EUkip 13

For more details of the filth EUkip has allied itself with in the EFD as political prostitutes giving the lie to every claim Farage has ever made about the racism and sexual intollerance, xenophobia and BNP styling of EUkip CLICK HERE

But if the BNP do well then that will be all too easy an allegation for the europhiles to throw around and some of it will indeed stick.

Some of it will stick!! That is choice now that Farage is wearing it as a badge of honour to get the bribes EUkip so readily succumbs to – anything to make Farage more money and get his snout deeper in the trough with yet miore dullards and praise singers on his personally selected and controlled EUkip staff!

We in UKIP reject, outright, the racism and xenophobia they represent but it will be easy enough, for those who wish it, to make opposition to the EU not respectable simply by smearing those who are against political union as being all the same.

Few have so dishonestly betrayed Britain as have Farage and EUkip under his racist, homophobic, dishonest, bullying and corrupt BNP styled leadership. Let us face it there is every reason to believe that the treacherous Ted Heath actually believed that the EU might benefit others besides himself and a new and yet more resplendent yacht!

We believe, and polls back us up in this belief, that the majority of people in this country wish to work with the EU on many issues – they just don’t want to be part of a political union.

We note that as a part of the prostitution of EUkip the sell out includes the concepts of ‘Reform’ when as even Farage states the majority wish to withdraw!

The greatest betrayal of all even for the man who drew up and authorised a concordance that Britain would aid and strengthen the EU and advocated GREATER Subsidiarity.

That is the essential position that must be debated, not dismissed by being linked to thuggish extremists.

It is noted that these fine platitudes were mouthed on Farage’s behalf BEFORE the election and within having attracted the dustbin vote of the British peoples in dumping their vote rather than vote for politicians the garbage that was thus elected is in full on negotiation to join with thuggish extremists with Farage as its leader forming the EFD Party Group.

Nigel Farage is the leader of Ukip, the UK Independence Party

Leader must have an entirely different meaning in the EUkip dictionary as clearly Farage is without any of the talents or attributes of a leader – a treacherous, underhand, phillandering, drunken fool who has destroyed the credibility of EUroScepticism as EUkip slides ever closer to the gutter, such that even the likes of Bruce Lawson, Peter Cole and Del Young see they can seize the high ground though it is clear that whatever distance pond life places between themselves they all display their predeliction for dishonesty, corruption and self important greed.

Has Farage never asked himself why there are so many staggeringly revolting people in and around the high table in EUkip – the decent folk have left.

The days of UKIP are over – they have achieved NOTHING and offer no hope of doing so in the future, their blatant failure at elections time and time again show EUkip is not the way forward merely a mechanism for keeping a rather sordid bunch with their snouts in the troughs on the EU Gravy Train.

But we didn’t really need hindsight to tell us that we predicted it some dozen years ago when I told Farage he could count on my support through thick and thin and I ensured Jeffrey Titford was made leader and Kilroy, Hockney and McKinley were removed with the aim of keeping EUkip going. I even provided Roger Knapman with a way to come up smelling of roses after the idiocy of the Poles in the attic but the imbecile Croucher opted to destroy EUkip’s credibility with his lies to The Press Complaints Council which did such damage when they were utterly rejected after he had lied to and about professional journalists.

Was it any wonder no one trusts EUkip News or the froth on their web site, when it was run for so many years by the creepy and untrustworthy Gollom, as he squabbled with Manic Monkey while he covered for Titfords ineptitude and his propensity to dash off and play in his apron – well they do say that those on the square are rarely on the level!

To view the original article CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

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