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#0718* – BEST WISHES to the unpaid who work to Leave-The-EU

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/12/2011

#0718* – BEST WISHES to the unpaid who work to Leave-The-EU
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Our Thanks to the few honest folk salaried to work towards these United Kingdoms Leaving-The-EU – Particularly The Independent MEP & UKIP member Nikki Sinclaire who has invested so much of her salary & expenses in her principled stand, despite the sabotage efforts of UKIP Leadership!

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as UKIP moves forward after a rather embarr assing year with not a positive achievement to their name one wonders when a political party of group will materialise that is fit for purpose to represent the aspirations of the majority who wish to Leave-The-EU.

The year started out embarrassingly with a guilty verdict against UKIP and its leadership Nigel Farage & his oppo Godfrey Bloom.

The OLAF enquiry into Fraud by Mick Nattrass & Graham Booth did not order Mike Nattrass to repay money but even the redacted FoI report showed his position was more akin to the Scottish position of ‘Not Proven’ whilst Graham Booth faced a guilty verdict and was ordered to repay a substantial sum.

Derek Clarke was also found guilty of fraud and ordered to repay a considerable amount – whilst Stuart Agnew & David Bannerman were still under investigation for fraudulent use of public money.

The year continued with not a single notable achievement by UKIP but at least with an apology published for Farage & UKIP’s abuse of Nikki Sinclaire in an effort to circumvent a near certain defeat and VERY costly damages in The High Courts.

Alan Hardy followed the example of others and won his case against UKIP costing UKIP some £30K for their appeal alone!

UKIP have as yet failed to act honourably and pay me the money ordered by the courts for the case Mark Croucher lost on their behalf despite the support of the clearly corrupt Paul Nuttall and the benefits fraudster and UKIP Press Officer Clive Page – UKIP lacks the integrity and morality to honour its debts – clearly UKIP does NOT represent British values as it hides behind the skirts of The EU succkling on tax payers money dishonourably extorted.

We then note that UKIP tried their best to talk down and distract from the efforts to obtain 100,000 signatures to obtain a Parliamentary debate on a Referendum based on In/Out of The EU.

UKIP leadership have prostituted UKIP to their income by association with The EFD Group a pro EU Membership reform group who have supported praise of Anders Breivik the mass murderer and extremist nutter of Norway.

We note that the ex leader of UKIP placed as a puppet to suit Nigel Farage’s personal ambitions has returned to opposing The EU in The House of Lords – Despites his dishonesty and despicable behaviour whilst UKIP leader Malcolm Lord Pearson has shepperded through The HoL his new Bill fopr a cost benefit analysis of membership of The EU – so far he has achieved the first faltering steps that include Reading 1 & 2 + the committee stage in The House of Lords and now this week he has managed to steer the Bill to its first stages in The House of Commons so we can expect Farage to climb on the band wagon and try to show this was a UKIP achievement just as he dishonestly did on the day of the House of Commons debate obtained by Nikki Sinclaire – UKIP and its vile band orf self serving sock puppets still try to talk down the achievement!

All who are remotely politically aware realise a Referendum is unlikely and even dangerous as we can count on our Civil Servants and Politicians cheating just as they did to dupe these United Kingdoms into membership of the EU in the first place.

None are as clearly aware of the dangers than Nikki Sinclaire hersel;f and hence her new campaign which will become more noticed in the spring.

The risks are great but not as great as complacency or working with our enemies or even with the scum of EU politics in the form of The EFD!

The year ends for UKIP with nothing of note achieved by the leadership in fact one member of their leadership has betrayed the Party as this blog warned some 7 years ago! David Bannerman has defected to The Tories in the false misapprehension that they trusted him yet his continued employment of Peter Reeve a UKIP staffer has done little to convince – He believed he would find himself a leading Tory candidate but it seems clear he has far too many enemies in the Tories and is rightly not trusted – a position not helped by David Bannerman’s serial lies about his ancestry.

All rather embarrassing for UKIP!

Now I note that nepotism is not confined to The Farage family though I doubt Stuart Gulleford’s son is earning the £30K a year paid to Kirsten Farage from UKIP funds. Though as shown by his confession to The Sunday Times Stuart Agnew is only too happy to fiddle the public purse!

A measure of UKIP leadership’s morality is well presented by the odious liar, cheat and low life Mick McGough – just imagine a party that finds someone so discredited, dishonest and obsessive is acceptable on its NEC this bufoon bases his comments on guesses and inaccuracy, vitriol and the assumption that others are so bereft of integrity they might sink to his levels and values!

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consider Mick McGough is a UKIP NEC member and candidate for UKIP participation in the EU London assembly – also a prospective candidate for MEP and advocate of helping the EU structure in return for money as a leading spokesman for EU Party Membership!

Astonishingly Mick McGough is so convinced that others are as corrupt as he and would not act with integrity and publish the facts and the truth unless it was for money. The foolish old man tries desperately to defame me and my blog and that of Junius team – Mick McGough is a proven liar and cheat yet compounds that with his fantasies about Junius and myself.

Firstly unlike him I have NEVER received a single cent of EU money or any payment for my patriotic efforts and time spent seeking to Leave-The-EU.

Secondly I have NEVER lied or misled anyone on my blogs and he and the other liars working for UKIP have utterly failed to show a single solitary fact of the remotest consequence on my blog that could be defined as ‘untrue’ or ‘misleading’ – I have strenuously made efforts to ensure the material on my blogs is substantially correct and true and have assured all that ANY correction of note will be made if the correction exists and can be substantiated – Unlike Mick McGough I seek to tell the truth and work to Leave-The-EU.

Finally in further embarrassing conditions Gerard Batten finds himself on the stand in The Courts on allegations of racism, prejudice and incitement to racial and religious hatred, charges all who know him are likely to be aware of as likely!

It rather looks as if 2012 could lead to several of UKIP leadership being found guilty in the courts and maybe the realisation that UKIP are unfit for purpose in its present form!

My thoughts at this time of year are with those who lost a partner or child duruing the year and face the holiday period without them – particularly those whose loss has been due to cancer – also my thoughts are with those who know that their cancer will prevent them ever repeating this time of holiday next year.

I am minded that I faced just such a death sentence last year and give thanks to all who have helped and supported Lee and I during the year.
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#0545* – UKIP MEPs COULD FIND THEMSELVES EXPOSED

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/06/2011

#0545* – UKIP MEPs COULD FIND THEMSELVES EXPOSED

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 A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER of UKIP MEPs COULD FIND THEMSELVES EXPOSED!

Clearly the cases against Tom Wise & Lindsey Jenkins are resolved!

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this verdict could well prove very embarrassing for a number of UKIP MEPs who we know have been under investigation and on whom we have actually supplied the Official OLAF and sometimes Police investigation numbers.

Verdicts have been reached on Mike Nattrass we are assured and also on Graham Booth.

There have also been verdicts and decisions reached on Nigel Farage & Jeffrey Titford.

It is understood that a verdict has been reached by OLAF on Derek Clark but it is unknown if The British Police will actually prosecute.

Stuart Agnew has admitted to fraud and has given details of how he and David Bannerman have defrauded the tax payers and are we understand subject of protracted investigation by OLAF pending outcome/verdict.

Marta Andreasen has yet again lost a Court Ruling over her whistle blowing fantasies.

A verdict was reached by The Courts finding UKIP, Nigel Farage & Godfrey Bloom guilty of abuse, dishonesty and harassment of of Nikki Sinclaire MEP who has acquiesced to withdraw her case for the sake of the members in return for a published apology CLICK HERE

UKIP lost a case seeking to harass and silence me from publishing the truth and are in derelection of Judgement with a debt to me – as yet unpaid of £12.1/2K if one listened to Marta Andreasen their bankruptcy may preclude them from acting honourably and settling their debt.

This new Court Ruling as reported below may well leave the low lifes in UKIP with no fancy stories for their criminality. There will of course be those who were honourably acquitted of their crimes but one wonders why they do not publish their judgements to clear their names and The Party’s tattered reputation.

A reputation that even with an alleged spend of £170K in legal bills annually proping up their egos and miscreant behaviour is unsurprisingly going down the drain.
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Court rules on MEPs’ fiddles

A landmark ruling in the European Court of Justice could force MEPs to disclose evidence of misconduct and financial abuse

Bojan Pancevski Published: 12 June 2011
The European parliament may have to disclose a number of internal audits (Frederick Florin)  

The European parliament could be forced to disclose wide-ranging evidence of financial abuse and misconduct by MEPs after a landmark court ruling last week.
On Tuesday the European Court of Justice ruled that the parliament must release a 2008 report which documented the way MEPs can manipulate allowances to pocket more than £1m from a single five-year term, in addition to their salaries.
The Sunday Times website is today publishing the full report, which the parliament has tried to suppress. Even now it plans to appeal against the court ruling, which follows a three-year battle by Ciaran Toland, an Irish campaigner.
In 2009 this newspaper published part of the report drawn up by Robert Galvin, the parliament’s chief internal auditor.
Abuses include MEPs claiming up to £180,000 in annual staff allowances without having to keep any proof; awarding themselves bonuses of up to 1½ times salary and diverting public money into front companies. The ruling could also result in the parliament having to disclose information including:
– Names of MEPs forced to repay money or found to have committed wrongdoing.
– Internal audits showing abuse of funds by MEPs or senior eurocrats.
– Details of purchases including cars and furniture and information about contracts, some of which have reportedly been awarded without a tendering procedure.

It is understood that more than 10 MEPs are being investigated for possible abuse of funds and could be forced to return money.

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#0536* – Another Good UKIP Point WITHOUT A PEPP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/06/2011

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it is interesting to note that as leader of a Pan EU Political Group The extremist and unpleasant EFD Group AND leader of a British political party, all be it dwindling and in some difficulty due to dishonesty, corruption and lack of competent leadership as a fractured party with MEPs of one persuasion working for themselves with a claque of hired praise singers and wanabes and 5 of the original 13 who have to some extent or another rejected the farcical parody of leadership and extremism offered by Nigel Farage.

You will note that the record clearly states that since 01-Sep-2011 despite being leader of a Group AND a party he has merely mustered some 56 speeches in the EU Pleniaries.

Yet on the other hand without that ‘clout’ that is so eagerly promoted by those who would sell principles for cash and espouse Pan EU Party Membership for UKIP – Nikki Sinclaire has since June-2009made 52 such speeches plus a further two on Tuesday in Strasbourg.

This again highlights the benefit of leaving The EU and enjoying liberty as a self determining democracy rather than a vassal of the EU scam.

As Nikki Sinclaire has made, it would seem, far more speeches per month than nigel Farage AND she has reviviffied a think tank ‘Futurus’ with Tony Scholfield, Trevor Colman MEP and others WITHOUT being in a Pan EU Political Party would someone like to actually put forward some true reasons for joining such a scam rather than we should listen to liars, cheats and low lifes like Staurt Agnew and Mick McGough neither of whom would it be wise to listen to if the ran the speaking clock if you wished for an honest representation of the time!

I also note few of Stuart Agnews questions are pertinent to UKIP and the aim of leaving the EU but almost all are for his masters The NFU and increasing EU Control with more regulation under The CAP – Read them for yourself and it soon becomes apparent for whom he works!
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#0514* – UKIP Too Busy Squabbling to act honourably or intelligently

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/05/2011

#0514* – UKIP Too Busy Squabbling to act honourably or intelligently
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Mainly due to lack of leadership UKIP is Too Busy Squabbling to act honourably or intelligently!

If they put HALF the effort into Leave-The-EU their core message that they put into fiddling and trying to attack their friends and supporters – They just might have achieved SOMETHING!

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clearly UKIP are so obsessed with sqabbling internally they haven’t much of a clue what is going on around them – they must be feeling very foolish as I warned of this and proved David Bannerman was a fraud before he even joined UKIP – I published details of his dishonesty and warned again and again subsequently when UKIP’s utterly incompetent leadership showed they lacked the competence to lead or manage.

You may remember it was I who clearly warned that Mark Croucher was a liar and untrustworthy and that Stephen Sobey and probably Annabelle Fuller (Since she knew him AND knew he worked in Tory Central Office) were Tory Plants in UKIP.

Again and again I have provided information long ahead of my publishing it when UKIP were too stupid to check the facts I provided and act on them.

The only defence UKIP has been able to make has been to lie, defame and attack me using their cowardly sock puppets and those with no integrity, honour or reputation worthy of defending like Douglas Denny, Mick McGough, Gawain Towler, Clive Page, Mark Croucher, Paul Nuttall, Derek Clark, Stuart Agnew and the like – filth to the very core!

One wonders now whether, having been shown to be unprincipled, dishonest and corrupt whether UKIP might consider using some of the money they have stolen and trousered to pay the £12.1/2K+ which they owe me and the British Courts who found against them.

I doubt it UKIP has shown contempt for British values, British Justice and any concept of honour or duty.

Burned at the steak

MEP David Campbell-Bannerman’s defection from UKIP to the Tories has delighted more than a few Conservative backbenchers.

Not least among their reasons for glee are their new recruit’s connection via birth to Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman, the former Liberal Prime Minister.

David is actually a distant relative rather than a direct descendant, but that hasn’t dampened the enthusiasm for his return to the Tory fold after more than a decade away.

Defections are always tricky to navigate and I’m told that Mark Pritchard had a key role in wooing his old friend (and fellow Bow Group member) back.

I hear that while Charles Tannock handled most of the negotiations in Brussels, it was Pritchard and Stewart Jackson who handled things in London.

The final deed was actually done over a dinner of big T-bone steaks in Gaucho’s restaurant in Piccaddilly last month.

Big steaks and wine conjure up a much more Tory menu than the limp Granita fare in Islington picked over by Blair and Brown all those years ago.

But then again, Gaucho’s is Argentinian….How will Pritchard and Jackson ever look the Falklands Islanders in the eye again?

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Theres a great wine list at Graucho’s:

Fine & Rare Wines

These wines represent the very best of Argentina, some being the icon wines from major wineries, others being from small independent wineries working in specific areas of Mendoza. New and unusual grape varieties are finding their niche in the fine tradition too, providing more scope to the diversity of this beautiful country.

Such a good job MEPs are on expenses that WE PAY! 
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#0494* – UKIP SPOKESMAN MAKES UKIP LOOK STUPID

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/05/2011

#0494* – UKIP SPOKESMAN MAKES UKIP LOOK STUPID
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UKIP SPOKESMAN MAKES UKIP LOOK STUPID!
I guess we should not be surprised with the caliber of parasites surrounding the failed & discreditted leadership!

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Ukip make fools of themselves yet again with their unpleasant official smear attempts!

UKIP hits back at attack by its former leader

By Martin Banks19th May 2011


It is a disappointment that the party has not capitalised on its past successes

Former UKIP leader Roger Knapman

UKIP has angrily dismissed allegations that the party is split over possible plans for a new pan-European party.

The claims were made by Roger Knapman, a former UKIP party leader.

He said he had been recently approached on the issue by several “unhappy” UKIP MEPs.

Knapman, who led the party from 2002 to 2006, said, “It is a disappointment that the party has not capitalised on its past successes and does not seem to be moving forward electorally.

“At the time when UKIP should be pressing for a referendum on our continued membership of the EU, and highlighting the extreme costs of that membership, the party leadership seems besotted with the idea that we should join an unsuitable pan-European grouping that would mean we become part of the problem rather than part of the solution.”

Knapman, a former Tory MP and party whip, added, “I hope that the leadership will listen to these MEPs, and to the party membership, and reassess its priorities.”

However, a UKIP spokesman rubbished the comments, telling this website, “The fact is that UKIP has improved its position electorally.

“At the recent local elections in the UK, the number of votes for UKIP increased substantially.”

He said that UKIP “remains committed” to the UK’s withdrawal from the EU, a policy it is able to pursue within the political group it currently occupies in parliament.

He added, “Such comments from a discredited figure like Roger Knapman should be discounted for what they are: complete rubbish.”

To view the original article CLICK HERE

UKIP does itself huge damage with this sort of endless attack on any supporter, including their ex leader, when clearly they are wrong.

The statement has all the hallmarks of a business failure with no feel for the job or people either a child or a Management Consultant – Castratti at either end of the harmonic!

Roger Knapman led the party from 3 MEPs to 12 and a massive increase in membership to 30,000.

Nigel Farage has led the party to the largest loss of seats in any election – the membership of the party down to 10,000 realistically which is starting to climb once more and to 9 MEPs currently loyal to his leadership with several teatering on the verge of departure.

UKIP are currently squabbling like ferrets in a sack as is clear for all to see – it is just one long amateur hour for rather unpleasant liars and bullies.

To claim that UKIP is NOT divided over the odious concept of being subsumed into Pan EU Political Parties to oblige and assist The EU in the advance of diminution of National status and values is assinine beyond belief.

Perhaps the spokesman is without ANY intelligence and has not read the two oposing debates in the in house propaganda comic nor on the members only Forum nor even on the UKIP web site.

Promoting the concept is the liar and cheat Mick McGough and the discreditted fraudster Stuart Agnew MEP whilst opposing the motion is Prof. Tim Congdon and Trevor Colman MEP.

‘Oh what a tangled web they weave ………..’

Indeed in their ‘deception’ they do need practice as they look no less than stupid in their disarray and lies, squabbling and incompetence!

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#0486* – Marta ANDREASEN UKIP MEP Issues An Apology!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/05/2011

#0486* – Marta ANDREASEN UKIP MEP Issues An Apology!
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Marta ANDREASEN UKIP MEP Issues An Apology!!

That UKIP Fielded Hirelings and a proven dishonest Hugh Williams in defence of UKIP is a sad reflection on the abject failure of leadership!!

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it is interesting to note that Marta Andreasen has, after her withering attack on the leadership of UKIP by its so called leader, issued an apology.

It would seem that in the light of crass and irresponsible comments made by Nigel Farage in his attempts to lead the Party she claims to have merely quoted him.

You will note this blog. made a point of stating her use of language was a ‘hostage to fortune’.

May I also point out that her blog as that of a public servant does NOT post comments if they are not favourable to her chosen position and personal career interests.

Unlike this blog which is no more than a series of statements of fact and unashamedly my opinions on the facts presented as a private unfunded individual seeking to clean-up UKIP to make it fit for purpose as our lifeboat and a vehicle for leadership for these United kingdoms to Leave-The-EU – which currently it clearly is not – as is notably highlighted by the likes of Marta Andreasen, skeptyk, independent UKIP, Mick McGough, Godfrey Bloom, David Bannerman, Stuart Agnew and the many other liars, low lifes and cheats who so consistently drag the name of UKIP in the gutter with their lies and serial distortions.

APOLOGIES

May 14, 2011 8:14 pm – Posted by Marta 

Hugh Williams forwarded to me a statement where he calls my comments in respect of the party´s finances “patently false” and he refutes them.

The “mis-information” -as Hugh calls it- about the party´s financial status,  came from Nigel himself on such terms and more than once.

As I do not have the chance to see the party´s accounting records,  at this point I have to rely on Hugh´s opinion.

Appointed assistant Treasurer two months ago, Hugh seems to have grasped the financial situation very quickly and appears to know better than the leader of the party. I have therefore to conclude that Nigel´s comment to me may not respond to reality, in which case I withdraw my reference to it.

In fact looking at the huge number of staff Nigel recruits in the UK and in Brussels and relating it to the 9 UKIP councillors that were elected out of 9,300 seats, I should have realized that the party enjoyed a more than comfortable financial situation! Apologies!!!

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#0464* – UKIP COULD HAVE BEEN THERE – Well Done Chris HUDSON

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/05/2011

#0464* – UKIP COULD HAVE BEEN THERE – Well Done Chris HUDSON
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP COULD HAVE BEEN THERE – Well Done Chris HUDSON
who won the Suffolk Coastal Seat!

A Seat UKIP DELIBERATELY DESTROYED in Petty Jealousy and dishonest in fighting and abuse!

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Hi,

a small example for UKIP that shows that corruption, dishonesty, greed, bullying and liars are no substitute for integrity.

Congratulations to Chris Hudson who yesterday won the seat of Suffolk Coastal as a Tory.

Many will remember this was the seat where John West was the candidate for UKIP until he was lied about, abused, ridiculed and mocked with no political support from scum like utterly discredited thief fraud and dishonourable Stuart Agnew MEP, the liar George Curtis, the corrupt and professionally inadequate Andrew Smith, the totally discreditted liar cheat and low life Mick McGough, the foul mouthed and dishonourable Annabelle Fuller, the bully liar and discreditted abuser Peter Reeve, the dellusional dishonest creep David Bannerman, the self serving corrupt Stuart Gulleford and others.

Let us not forget that UKIP destroyed Suffolk Coastal branch and in the election yesterday was completely incapable of finding a single applicant or representative to stand not even on their level of paper candidate could they even find toilet paper to stand!

For quite some time Chris Hudson was lauded by UKIP and even called upon to represent Geoffrey Titford, UKIP’s one time leader – Chris’s political experience was called upon by Farage for advice even having years of experience with the Tory Party.

Chris Hudson had lent his support to UKIP in the belief that they would act as Britain’s lifeboat to lead Britain to Leave-The-EU – when it became apparent they were just a small claque seeking self aggrandisement and self enrichment through exploitation he accepted the Tory offer to return and be their candidate in Suffolk Coastal.

Standing for his first time and still adherent to his Leave-The-EU agenda at first glance it looks as if he has received a larger percentage of the vote than had UKIP anywhere!

UKIP on the other hand has seen the outcome of their odious behaviour and their results have been an unmitigated and unprincipled catastrophy if it is still pretending to lead Britain to Leave-The-EU.
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#0452* – UKIP FORUM HAS IT ON THE BUTTON!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/05/2011

#0452* – UKIP FORUM HAS IT ON THE BUTTON!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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Steve ALLISON on UKIP FORUM HAS IT ON THE BUTTON!
Knowing this has not however detered him from his persuit of a position on The MEP selection List I’m Sure!!

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Hi,

here is an abstract from UKIP Forum provided earlier by one of numerous supporters of UKIP who wish to see the Party cleaned-up and made fit for purpose as a party which morally decent INFORMED folk could once again support:

I’m no great fan of Nigel’s Leadership or Management Skills although I do recognise his oratory and presentation skills are second to none in UKIP. I would be surprised if there was anyone to match him in the party.

However, I don’t think Nigel is divisive. I actually think Nigel is a unifying force within UKIP! Nigel is building a party that consists of members who all agree he is wonderful and back him 100%.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, Nigel’s method of unifying the party is therefore to drive out or marginalise anyone who disagrees with him. That definitely makes the party more united and more homogeneous in the name of “professionalism” No dissenting opinions allowed. Get on message or get out.

I have been in this party many years and have seen how it works. New members join, often admittedly because of hearing Nigel speak or seeing him on TV. They are 100% Faragist and many never progress beyond this view. However,  some members do ultimately decide the God does have feet of clay. They then face a choice. If they want to progress in the party the only way to do that at the moment is to be vocally and visibly pro-Nigel. If they decide they cannot do that then they either leave the party (which many thousands have done over the years); stay a member and just keep working in their own local area to get our country back, since at the moment UKIP, for all it faults, is the only viable game in town (which is what many branch members do); or speak out and try and change things in the party (which ultimately leads to them either giving up and leaving or being hounded out. Again just look at the list of former members of UKIP if you want to see how often this happens).

Personally I am in the camp which recognises Nigel’s very great strengths but also his significant weaknesses. I came very, very close to being driven out in 2008 but decided to swallow the humiliation and stay and fight for change from within. Not very successfully I must admit so far. However, the acid test will come with the new party constitution. I suspect this will be the watershed for many people, including me!

Steve, how on Earth can you say that only those who are vocally and visibly pro-Nigel can progress when you are Vice-Chairman? Seems like a straw man argument seeing as you have repeatedly criticised Nigel and  backed a rival leadership candidate.

Actually the post of Party Vice Chairman is in many ways analogous to Vice President of the USA. A post required by the constitution but which has no power or authority and is a good place to park someone out of the way. It balances the ticket and puts a potential threat inside the tent p1ssing out rather than having them outside the tent p1ssing in.

I consider my most significant current contribution to UKIP to be my membership of the NEC. Something I was elected to by a vote of the membership, not appointed to by anyone.

Sadly this is no credit to anyone and well he knows it as he is surrounded by liars, cheats, bigots and self serving scheisters take for instance Derek Clark MEP who has lied, brought disgrace on UKIP – done virtually nothing in his constituency save preside, with the drunkard Regional Organiser over the collapse of membership from around 6,000 to just a tad over 400 at present.

Do remember the number of proven liars on the NEC such as Mick McGough and at the last NEC meeting you also had the proven liar Stuart Agnew MEP numerous individuals on The NEC have with monotonous regularity brought UKIP into disrepute.

Sadly not least in the order who have brought UKIP into disrepute are the likes of Godfrey Bloom with his sordid behaviour with prostitutes IN PUBLIC and invoking UKIP’s name when arrested.

Likewise the fraud boasted of by Derek Clark MEP.

The lies repeatedly told by Nigel Farage in efforts to cover-up and collude with Tom Wise MEP.

The fact that Tom Wise MEP was NEVER disciplined within the party and was defended with lie after lie by Douglas Denny & Nigel Farage until finally he was sent to prison for 2 years for his crimes.

I do not believe there is any merit to claim in being one of a committee of fools, low lifes, theives, self servers and liars!

Are you REALLY proud as you claim Steve or are you just ‘Self Serving’?

How unifying can he be when he has lost 25% of his MEPs. Rumour of another one or two following keeps coming up. If he had strong leadership qualities UKIP would have 12 MEPs and be sitting in the EFD unmolested working to whatever it is MEPs do.

If you take the numbers quoted by Michael Heaver that Nigel got 45% of the vote in the 2006 Leadership Election and 60% of the vote in 2019 then he is obviously uniting the party as level of dissatisfaction with him had dropped significantly. He therefore cannot be considered divisive. That is simple maths. His support in the party has gone from between 4 and 5 out of ten to 6 out of ten members who voted.

However, with all statistics you need to look beyond the numbers. In 2006 the UKIP Membership was around 16,000 and in 2010 it was around 15,000. Just getting rid of 1,000 members who might not be 100% behind Nigel would have contributed significantly to the rise in his apparent popularity. UKIP’s headline membership churn is somewhere around 30% (although I believe it is reduced somewhat after telephone “whipping in”) and a fairly high proportion of those people who leave are, in my personal experience, members who would not have backed Nigel in a Leadership contest but accept that he is practically unbeatable while he controls the media access obtained by the party (and hence prevents anyone who may challenge him from developing a higher profile) and Nigel holds the power of patronage for paid employment slots and promotion to winnable places on the MEP Lists.

Taking a simple analogy. A ton of Hematite (iron ore) is about 70% iron and 30% other material. So to get the purity up to 95% (typical pig iron) requires a considerable reduction in volume. A ton of hematite will produce at best around two thirds of a ton of pig iron. No matter how good your process you cannot convert 100% of Hematite into iron. You have to lose the impurities, you have to refine the material and discard the unwanted parts. So the end result of the process is a high purity, homogeneous pig iron ingot and piles of unwanted slag. UKIP membership is the same. Feed in unrefined members, reduce the volume until only the high purity, pro-Nigel fraction remains and discard the unwanted slag. So to keep the total membership constant requires a continual input of new members to replace the discarded slag. Of course there are always some impurities remaining, those stubborn elements that can’t be totally removed. The answer to them is mask them and minimise their effect!

I must say though I agree with almost all that Steve states regarding Nigel Farage where he re-itterates my oft repeated comments in that Nigel Farage is probably UKIP’s only real asset – one need only look at the incredibly low caliber of those elevated by him and around him and the irrefutable fact that Steve makes most clear which is that Farage though an excellent performer utterly lacks management and leadership skills and has had to relly not on building a bigger, better more skilled party but has driven out the skilled, the competent, the individuals of gravitas and is left surrounded by political pygmies and adulative small children like the sad spectacle of his assorted praise singers.

It is not a leadership quality to pile dung higher to strut as a popinjay crowing at the expense of and benighted by lack luster surroundings.

OK so the large majority of readers of this blog and also of Junius are UKIP Supporters – there are also the low lifes who visit looking to see what lies they can invent about me to desperately hang onto their position as maggots in the dung heap.

STOP FOR A MOMENT – Appreciate I have ALWAYS supported Nigel Farage as a performer and have without fail made every effort possible to TRY to clean-up UKIP and expose the vile specimens that are exploiting both Farage and UKIP for their personal gain.

OK – NOW NAME the top 20 public performers that have been trained and can be trusted not to say something crass as one would expect of Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Annabelle Fuller, Stuart Agnew MEP, Derek Clark MEP, Godfrey Bloom MEP, David Bannerman MEP, William Dartmouth MEP, Paul Nuttall MEP, Michael Heavers Childrens Wing, Hugh Williams The Untrustworthy Wing, Rachel Oxley The useless Tendency, Harry Aldridge Childrens Wing, Kris Seunarine Idiots Wing, Andrew Smith The Dishonest Tendency, George Curtis The Dishonest Tendency, William Shaw Idiots Wing, Need we go on?

Just who BESIDES Nigel Farage has one shred of visible competence and lets face it despite standing on a dung heap of his own creation Farage has maintained his ability but imagine what could have been achieved had UKIP not permitted Farage to destroy the party and turn it into his own private vehicle – even paying his wife £30K a year and Annabelle Fuller – how can ANYONE claim that is displaying probity, morality, integrity or ANY sign of leadership caliber?

Now consider this list and follow up on some of the links CLICK HERE
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#0439* – IF AGNEW, McWILLIAMS & McGOUGH Advocate A Sell Out:

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/04/2011

IF AGNEW, McWILLIAMS & McGOUGH Advocate A Sell Out:
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IF Stuart AGNEW, Steph McWILLIAMS &Mick  McGOUGH Advocate A Sell Out:!!

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10-Apr-2011 – IF AGNEW, McWILLIAMS & McGOUGH Advocate A Sell Out:

Hi,
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IF AGNEW, McWILLIAMS & McGOUGH Advocate A Sell Out then let us face it that should be enough for decent folk to know that a Yes vote makes no sense for Britain!

Let us look at the claimed reasons for a yes vote which they put forward:

By Stuart Agnew MEP, Steph McWilliam of the South West Region
and NEC Member 
Mick McGough
        Stuart AGNEW MEP
Steph McWILLIAMS

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This vote is about three vital opportunities for our Party. First, this vote is about the Party being able to pay for a wide range of activities in the UK using, effectively, UK Taxpayer’s money returned to us by the EU.
Clearly larger parties will have a hugely larger amount. More tax payers’ money squandered on useless politicians – take the moral high ground and Vote NO.
Secondly, this vote will provide the Party with the services of a Think Tank which will enable us, for the very first time, to match our opponents in strategy and policy-formation. If we are to be a serious contender in British politics, this is a vital strength we must add.
A Think Tank requires individual capable of political thought – every time UKIP has had anyone of this ilk it has permitted its leader to fire them and replace them with a fully funded sycophant!
Thirdly, this vote is about denying our enemies approximately £1,300,000 in funding which will otherwise be divided up between them.
Slightly less than the cost of ONE MEP – if UKIP MEPs had danated a percentage of their salary to the party this sum would be dwarfed.
Above all, this vote is about building upon our successes from 2009 to today to displace the Liberal Democrats and win the European Elections in 2014.
UKIP has had no success – it has merely dishonestly capitalised on the lack of factual knowledge of the electorate relative to expenses and the promotion of The BNP by Farage & Croucher.

UKIP has lost its ONLY MEPs with any integrity.

Vote “NO” if you want UKIP to languish on the fringe of politics.
Vote NO and concentrate on Clening Up UKIP to make it electable – rid of liars, low lifes and cheats like McGough, Agnew, Bloom, Nuttall, Bannerman, Clark, Andreasen etc.
Vote “YES” for progress in our noble cause.
There is absolutely nothing ‘Noble’ about UKIP’s self serving garbage that forms its leadership and its parasites.
The scheme involves UKIP joining a European political party based on the existing Europe of Freedom and Democracy Group
But they are unprincipled trash – anti Jewish, anti homosexual, racist, xenophobic and pro EU membership and revisionism. EVER UKIP MEP of any morality has resigned because of these filth!
and creating a professional Think Tank to enable us
With the permission of UKIP’s utterly corrupt co-campaigners in the gutter of EU politics.
– for the first time – to produce policy papers explaining our messages.
Richard North waas producing those on a regular basis as was Heather Cunningham but UKIP leadership were too stupid to understand the value – so they fired them!
Starting from our current, comfortable set of working relationships with our prospective allies, we are advised that the ANNUAL allocation of funds would be:
But NO ONE would want to be associated with filth like that EVEN for money!

For the political party € 850,000 (£733,000 approx) and;
For the Think Tank € 500,000 (£431,000 approx)


That gives €1,350,000 (£1,164,000 approx.) gross per year.
PEANUTS relative to the amount UKIP leadership could contribute and a fraction of the cash they could raise if anyone respected or trusted them.
Deducting administration and salaries leaves about € 600,000 (£518,000 approx) for the political party and €350,000 (£219,000 approx) for the Think Tank.
UKIP Hugely over pays mediocre trash and for rational salaries could tripple the staff for research – Not ONE UKIP staff member is worth the money they are paid and these idiots want to squander more!.
UKIP might expect, with the size of its delegation, to get approximately half that sum every year. This would mean that, EVERY YEAR, we would have the benefit of the sum of up to € 475,000 (£400,000 approximately) from the political party and the Foundation.  To put this in perspective, the 2010 general election cost us some £350,000.  We currently have nothing like that at our disposal.
Due to profligacy, fraud, failures of accounting and seemingly amounts running into at least 7 figures that have seemingly been nicked. Farage alone boasts he has made £2Million over and above his salary and expenses!

He has been paying his wife £30K for years and now he pays a so called Tory based PR agency to rig internal elections for him whilst seemingly funding one of his mistresses a foul mouthed woman of proven low morality and gutter morays – with clearly little ability and corrupt – paid from Party funds or at very least funds available to the party!
By the end of this Parliament we will have had access to more than £1 million. This is a sum which we scarcely dream of raising by conventional methods.
RUBBISH this is a fraction of the money that has gone missing due to corrupt internal accounting.

What makes anyone think this new money wouldn’t be stolen too?
The grant is used to meet expenditure linked to the objectives set out in the European  party’s political programme, such as:

Meetings, conferences
Publications, studies, advertisements
Administrative, personnel, travel costs
Campaign costs connected to European elections.

This is just jumping through The EU’s hoops to get The EU bribes – how does this differ from prostitution?
For example, we might use it to produce a flyer for the UK’s young female voters on the effects of the recent European Court of Justice decision which will drive up their insurance premiums – in the name of equality!
IF OF COURSE the partners in this scam don’t wish to see it spent altering imigration from Afriica to Southern Italy to pay for train tickets for them to relocate to Britain.

SCARILY JUST AS POSSIBLE (though just as unlikely as UKIP producing a well thought out and designed leaflet!).
Given its direct connection to EU Law, we can pay for it under the publications heading.
WITH CLEARANCE from The EU AND partners in the Group!
As part of EFD we already have to conform to similar rules about what we can do and how. It has not caused a problem – and it will not cause a problem if we take this grant.
This is not true.

There is no accounting for the £76,000 per MEP currently obtained under the 400 Budget. Further there is no accounting for the 6000 Travel Budget – is the money designated but not used by UKIP MEPs used as bribes to buy members of the EFD Group?
We cannot use the grant to meet expenditure such as:
DO READ THE RULES! GoTo CLICK HERE & then CLICK the first picture.

Campaign costs for referenda1
Non-European elections
Funding national parties, candidates
Debts and debt service charges.


Much may be made of the exclusion of “direct or indirect funding”. But when 2014 comes along, we can use a big chunk of our share for the campaign costs of that year’s European Elections quite legitimately.

WITH the permission of one’s partners!
Do also bear in mind the fact that the leading parties will receive far more so all it means is that the cost of politics increases and UKIP will be absolutely no better off – whereas if they refused to please The EU they could make huge issue of how the public were not being allowed to vote democratically on a level playing field!

The EU itself makes that clear.

Do YOU really believe that the EU EVER makes anything clear? How very naiive!

In other years imagine what we could do with our grant to campaign on issues such as the European Arrest Warrant, European Court of Human Rights’ judgments or how the EU and the Treaties undermine our immigration policy.

Just think UKIP might even have thought of campaigning to Leave-The-EU!!

Right now we simply do not have the money.

The intelligence, the integrity or the ability!

Given that at least 75% of our laws are now made in Brussels, almost every subject that UKIP campaigns upon is affected by EU legislation.

One wonders how these clowns could have reached such a profound insight without a Think Tank!

That means that we can direct this money to help us in the UK.

Might that include publishing an exit and survival strategy that they have lacked the ability to produce in 18 years despite the many £Millions that have gone amiss!

Indeed it is probable that 90% of the funds can be so utilised.

IF UKIP’s partners don’t want the money spent on ammending the fisheries policy to benefit Mediteranean fishermen – maybe if the bribes are adequate they can also help fund Austria’s maritime policies!

On top of that we will have the Think Tank (Foundation).

Already a percentage of what support UKIP could give is being squandered on support of GM Foods, and other NFU policies. As for intelligence surely no one can take seriously any advice on research from a slime like Mick McGough who lied to and cheated his associates and Party members with his lies about being PPC for Harlow CLICK HERE

We would be able to match the likes of Open Europe and the Tories in producing high quality research and policy proposals.

Don’t be daft – they have both ability and experience – They also seem able to fund Think Tanks when clearly UKIP can’t even think let alone directionally!

We can  produce strategic material to set the agenda for political debate in the UK instead of always being the party which has to react to others’ ideas.

Hardly likely as UKIP under its present leadership is scared to death of intelligence and relies on bullying and abuse as a management style, not to mention distortion and lies!

We can use Think Tank funding to give professional presentations to the press.

Anyone can do that with just the simplest of ability and wise use of software and IT. All at virtually no cost.
IF UKIP is too incompetent for the huge amount squandered on the parasites it gathers in its Press Office & PR it could hire a professional.

In short, a Think Tank will help UKIP to punch above its weight and mix it with the Old Parties at an entirely new level.

RUBBISH you on the one hand explain how the professional politicians are streets ahead then you add money in liberal tranches to those same politicians and miraculously you expect UKIP to develope a brain!!
Get Real!

If we are to match our ambitions to become the third party of British politics and winners in 2014, this is a vital step to attain the professionalism so roundly endorsed by our membership in the 2010 leadership election.

Is there a reason you have chosen to fail and merely remain the third party?

All this does require a small amount of matched funding: as little as 10% of the amount. And initially we only have to raise a share proportionate to our size – and of that only a small  proportion has to be found up front. The rest can be found as individual projects are brought forward.  We can achieve that.

How come there is no record of consistent donation to the party by its MEPs other than for their own personal re-election and even then some like Farage NEVER make donations, as the record shows!

If conditions or the Regulations change unfavourably, we can leave at any time, just as one can leave an alliance or a coalition.

They are unfavourable!
There are no signs of UKIP disassociating from the scum in The EFD

There is, in addition, another side to these grants. Our €1,350,000 (£1,170,000 approx) comes from a finite pot. Presently 10 parties take money from that pot. If we become number 11, then the other ten parties lose, on average, €135,000 (£117,000 approx).

So UKIP’s insignificant gain would not significantly harm the larger parties!

So, there are benefits to UKIP which at one and the same moment harm our enemies: a double-whammy with our enemies in the middle!

Doesn’t this denote the weakness of the argument in favour of prostituting UKIP to obliging The EU?

Just as the Salvation Army used to go around pubs and sell their publications with the slogan “Take the Devil’s money to do God’s work!”, so might we take what is after all UK Taxpayer’s money and use it to bring us victory in our noble cause. Would you rather that YOUR money is used to fund our enemies’ campaigns or to fund UKIP’s?

Even ignoring the moral issue of obliging the EU and jumping through their hoops –
Consider the wisdom of providing ones enemies with £20 to buy weapons in return for being given £2.50.
The sum one receives relative to ones’ enemies is so paultry in relationship that it is better to hold the moral high ground and sabotage the scheme.

If you think that this money might just come in a bit handy to help destroy Federalism and Integration, vote ‘YES’!

Voting YES I believe I have clearly shown aids The EU to advance its corrupt aims at the expense of these United Kingdoms whilst some completely idiotic numpties can be duped into assisting The EU with a Yes vote!

The ‘NO’ campaign alleges that the UKIP brand would be diluted. This is nonsense.

You fail totally to make an argument let alone a convincing OR valid argument. Giving other parties £20 and UKIP £2.50 by definition dilutes UKIP’s efficacy – the only answer is to block the EU’s scam and seize the moral high ground.

The Conservatives are part of a European Political Party. Which is better known in the UK: ‘The Conservative Party’ or ‘The Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists’?

Stop 100 people in the street and not more than 5 would be able to tell you this, possibly even less.

Indeed has anyone ever heard of ‘The Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists’? Of course not, because the Tories still fight under their own name and their brand is not diluted in any way.

You make my point for me yet you seek to grant legitimacy to Pan EU Political Parties supplanting National Parties in international Groups – DO READ THE RULES!

The ‘NO’ campaign claims taking part in a European Political Party is ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’.

It undeniably is as it requires subsuming ones’ National Party and asspirations to a Pan EU Party. Do WAKE-UP!

But surely to do so is no more ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’ than taking part in European Elections or, once elected, taking your seat and being an MEP.

Don’t be daft – there is absolutely no similarity and giving bufoons like you money to run a think tank shows the danger of this new EU Scam.

Every month our MEPs receive substantial sums. Are they thereby taking the ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’ Shilling? No! The money for the party is no more ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’ than the money paid to MEPs.

This is a falsehood and clearly it is a calculated risk – though equally clearly most UKIP MEPs have gone totally Native and even Farage has castigated MEPs like Derek Clark for doing no work in their constituencies – naturally he fears the liar and dishonest Marta Andreasen and has not commented on her disinterest in her constituency, wherever she may consider that to be, Barcelona?

And, remember, using this money, they are daily carrying the fight to the very heart of the EU in Brussels and Strasbourg.

Which in 18 years has been shown to be a complete waste of time as The EU Parliament is a complete irrelevance and only of use, as Nikki Sinclaire uses it, to provide sound bites to address in the British Media – That her hard work has spread across the media of the rest of The EU is a measure of her efficacy!

Stuart Agnew’s ONLY National coverage has been for his corruption, dishonesty and fraud!

The ‘NO’ campaign says that “accepting its money is corrupt”. So is the ‘NO’ campaign saying that our MEPs and their staff are corrupt?

Well? Answer that for yourself and you will soon realise why UKIP has NEVER achieved anything of value in The UK – They are not trusted because of their widely publicised corruption – whether theft by Agnew, Fraud by Clark, Agnew, Bannerman, self enrichment and infantile behaviour of Farage, the lies of Andreassen, Agnew, Bannerman, Agnew, Batten, the collusion in corruption by each and every UKIP MEP CLICK HERE

There is absolutely no way that it can be denied, on numerous counts, that UKIP MEPs and staff are corrupt – one even went to prison for fraud, so far, despite strenuous protection by his associates who colluded in his criminality and Farage even p[rofitted from it. Consider the undeniable dishonesty of Annabelle Fuller bringing UKIP into disrepute and the contempt for British Courts and dishonourable behaviour of Mark Croucher acting with UKIP’s support CLICK HERE

Of course not.

We all have different standards, I appreciate, however clearly yours are shown to be beneath contempt.

That they make this allegation merely demonstrates the absurdity of their argument.

I will happily debate your lies, dishonesty, corruption and misrepresentation on ANY public platform which I can attend.

As we see below, some time ago, after proper debate, the Party took the pragmatic decision to fight and take up seats in the European Parliament. It did so notwithstanding the ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’ nature of the institution.
Who now says this was the wrong decision?

Many still consider it was a mistake and the glee with which MEPs and their parasites leap onto the gravy train and seem to do NOTHING of value towards Leave-The-EU but much to further their election chances would incline to display this fact!

May I remind the author that at the UKIP Party Conference there was a very clear debate against joining Pan EU Political Parties – Yet just like the EU those who hope for self enrichment seek to overturn the Party Members’ Decision to seek a different result.

And some claim UKIP MEPs have not adopted the morays of The EU!

No one, for the simple reason that it provides the noble cause we all serve with an enormous platform to fight the enemies of British Independence

Is this a management decision to LIE and deny the unequivocal rejection of the concept by Members?

– a platform which the gerrymandered Westminster electoral system denies us.

Do look up ‘gerrymander’ rather than display your complete political ignorance when relative to this issue!

Taking what some called the ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’ Shilling has boosted our cause exponentially.

It CAN be argued that it has prostituted the integrity hence we have filth like Mick McGough, Stuart Agnew and their ilk telling lies to try to promote a Yes Vote and the sell out of UKIP.

The ‘NO’ campaign alleges UKIP will have to pay tax to HMRC on this money. They are wrong. The only tax that a European Political Party will have to pay is VAT.

So the Party will have to pay tax on the income – Surely even political ignorami like Mick McGough and Stuart Agnew realise that VAT stands for Value Added TAX – which is a tax of £2 in every £10!

A TAX Dummy!

The ‘NO’ campaign contends that this money may not be used for UK political activity.

Read the rules – this is still a matter of debate!

This too is nonsense.

Please quote the exact authorisation that this money may be freely used to influence domestic politics – even WITH permission from UKIP’s pro EU associates!

As we have seen much of our grant may properly and legally be directed at our target audience.

We have also noted that much of it can be paid into off shore accounts and that UKIP can not be trusted to produce transparent open accounts with even the slightest semblance of probity.

You may be astonished to know that UKIP MEPs are so unaccountable and UKIP NEC are so ill informed that when Mike Nattrass MEP in a forthright rejection of the manner in which UKIP was led and managed there were NEC members who disn’t even realise Nigel Farage was paying his wife despite his promise to UKIP, the members and the electorate that never would he or any elected UKIP official pay a family member.

YES THEY ARE THAT STUPID!

Moreover, does anyone imagine that the Tories take all their money (the best part of €2,000,000 or £1,750,000 approx) and spend it all in Brussels? Only the utterly naive would credit such an idea.

The vagiaries of other Parties are NOT the issue the issue is how clearly it has been proven that UKIP is not to be trusted and its MEPs and staff are as a generalisation reasonably denounced as corrupt, dishonest and untrustworthy.

The contention of the ‘NO’ campaign that we must concentrate on the UK media to the exclusion of Brussels is, once again, deeply misguided.

No wonder you can give no example why! Clearly IF UKIP sees itself as a withdrawalist party its ONLY relevant audience is Britain and its ONLY place of power to achieve withdrawal is the British electorate.

The ‘NO’ campaign asserts that a European Political Party might endorse integration. Hardly, as we would have a major part in drawing up the party’s political programme. Are we likely to endorse a programme encouraging integration?

EXACTLY what HAS happened. Wee Willy Dartmouth has advocated additional laws to be implemented by The EU.
Clark advocated GREATER subsidiarity of Britain to The EU and also co-operation with The EU to strengthen the control of its committees over the vassal states.
Marta Andreassen has openly advocated Reform rather than withdrawal.
UKIP’s election leader even advocated voting for The Tories.
Stuart Agnew advocates policies for The NFU.

I believe my point is clearly made!

The absurdity of the question demonstrates just how weak are the ‘NO’ campaign’s arguments.

Better that the NO campaign weaklly put their facts than stridently lie like the Yes Campaign fronted by liars.

It is suggested that a European Political Party would somehow lead to the end of national political parties.

Do read the rules in conjunction with the EU Constitution Lisbon Treaty.

Ask yourself this: is the Conservative Party likely to abolish itself and campaign in UK elections as ‘The Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists’?

YES – Do not forget Edward Heath later admitted that he had LIED to deliberately mislead the electorate.

A moment’s thought reveals that this too is absurd. 

Are YOU capable of a moment’s thought? Almost every point made for a Yes vote has been a complete misrepresentation.

The Tories would be committing political suicide.

What bunkum if they believe they will hold a controlling role in a major Pan EU Political Party – They would see this as an advance in their political ambitions as they are, as a party, pro EU membership.

We may think the Tories stupid, but they are not that stupid.

Is it not YOU being ‘stupid’ that you lack the political comprehension to understand guile rather than your own coarse dishonesty?

The Regulations make it clear we can use this money to campaign for European Elections.

WITH your partners’ permission and in accordance with EU constraints – Do read the rules!

In 2014 we aim to come first.

Yet a mere few paragraphs earlier the aim was to come third or was that only in the more important UK Political genre?

How are we to fund that ambition?

Particularly if as part of voting Yes we are giving our enemies more money than we get proportionately – That would clearly exacerbate the problem to no gain.

Will access to several hundred thousand Euros help or hinder us?

Hinder if it is beset with regulation and if in gaining that sum we morally grant the 3 main parties who are ALL pro EU £1Million each!
Do try joined up thinking!

As to raising money, the EU’s rules on donations are, compared to the UK’s, short, simple and elastic.

UKIP found UK rules eleastic and were found guilty in Court of being on the fiddle! Aided largely by Farage and Andrew Smith – Mick McGough’s sponsor!!
You may recal Andrew Smith was exposed as treasurer issuing an internal ‘e’Mail which I published advocating corruption and dishonesty with the intent to deceive the Electoral Commission – a matter about which, without ANY credibility Mick McGough has repeatedly lied and misrepresented as we see in the Yes Campaign’s dishonest presentation for personal gain.

Thus we shall be able to receive donations from expatriates and others who are otherwise prohibited in the UK.

Indeed – watch out Rob McWhirtter, they will be tracking you down in Switzerland! 
UKIP has already laundered corrupt donations from foreign donors as The Sunday Times exposed, using Global Britain a scam set up by Michael Pearson.

This will provide a new, untapped resource.

Rubbish – as a resource it is easily circumvented within the framework of electoral law it is just that UKIP has consistently been too stupid to act within the law!

And, remember that UKIP will be one of the big beasts in this party and so will be able to call the shots.

RUBBISH – UKIP currently has a mere 10 out of the 29 MEPs with 2 more likely to leave after the election and possibly as many as 6 wishing to leave to position themselves for re-election by the end of November.

Already we know that Bannerman is making further overtures to the Tories as has Andreassen in the past and it seems likely the dim wit Wee Willy temper tantrum will also jump ship. Then since John Bufton’s aims and values are those of UKIP members rather than the corrupt EFD and Farage it seems likely he will have the integrity to leave.

I doubt Batten will have the integrity as he lacks both integrity and moral conviction and I would guess that those outside of The EFD whether calling themselves UKIP or not would rather he did not join them as he is both untrustworthy and of very little merit or competence.


Rather Ruritainian as Big Beasts go – More The Mouse That Roared!

Finally, are we about to compromise our principles, as the “NO” campaign suggest?

Did they ‘suggest’ that – Irather thought they stated it unequivocally and again may I remind those of you on the make and the take that at The UKIP Conference the Membership soundly rejected the idea of joining a Pan EU Political Party.

Again, No!

Just how thick are you – surely you can not believe your own lies?

The Regulation says that a European Political Party must subscribe to the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

Run that past me again!
You are quoting The EU as your founding principles – personally I trust virtually NOTHING that has emanated from The EU in the last 60 years.

UKIP might be said to support these principles more honestly and more comprehensively than any other party in the UK or, indeed the EU itself.

It is sad that there are so many proven liars, cheats and scoundrells seeking self aggrandisement and self enrichment as part of the leadership of UKIP and it parasites that climb all over the party like maggots in betrayal of principles seeking rewards!

This issue is the third substantive battle within UKIP between the purists and the pragmatists. Taking the money is the pragmatic option. It has prevailed twice before – and if the party is to succeed, then the pragmatists need to win again.

Pragmatists? Every time one eneters into a deal that prostitutes the party the party is demeaned.

Just look at how the party has collapsed in terms of informed activists, replacing much of the party with chavs, fools and the self seeking – unable after 18 years to field sufficient candidates to earn an electoral broadcast!

The pragmatism has led to making the party a laughing stock – would the purists act like fools and dress up as chickens? Would they field a schoolgirl unselected by due process as candidate for Mayor in a Major City? Would pragmatism back a series of failed publicans? Would pragmatism bring the party into disrepute in the Courts?

Yes twice before the pond life and filth have demeaned UKIP and yet again they seek self enrichment at the expense of the Party and principles –That is not pragmatism, that is prostitution.

In 1994 there was furious debate about the proposal to fight seats for the EU Parliament elections but not to take them up. Then in 1998 we agreed to take our seats if elected.

Since UKIP has effectively rendered itself irrelevant – Do you have a point?

One of those who left the party in disagreement over these very issues was Gerard Batten. Now an MEP, Gerard is a valued colleague, using his position (and money from the EU’s taxpayers) to fight – hard and effectively – for this great cause.

The man is a twerp of no value to the party as shown by his vote in The Mayoral Election and the near total collapse of his constituency. A man with no understanding of morality or Justice – show boating on Phillipino Catholic Politics of anti Islamism – his sole claim to achievem,ent being a brief re-write of the Government Pink Book on occasions to show the costs of EU membership – which The Pink Book shows without the re-write and used to be produced by Harry Randall on EUroRealist and SilentMajority within 2 days of The Government publishing The Pink Book!

How many of UKIP’s members would seriously oppose those decisions now?

As well over 30.000 have left in that period it is not hard to argue that the outcome suited the rump and dross of UKIP that remained.

The next step was to form part of a Group.

Which was catastrophic as the first group was led by the willey old Piers Bonde and it was through him that Farage would seem to have learned many of the tricks of corruption and dishonesty it seems.

Many saw it as a betrayal. Now, not only has it helped financially but it boosts speaking time and thus our profile: would UKIP and Nigel Farage have any hope of such exposure if he was not a Group leader?

Provably untrue and the EFD bears no resemblance. Farage is now linked irrevocably to the racism, anti Judaism, violence, dishonesty, corruption, anti homosexuality and pro EU stance of the majority of the group he runs and has duplicitousy subsumed UKIP into in direct contravention of the wishes of the members and it seems without the knowledge of some of the dim wits and fruit cakes on the NEC.

We know that the Parliamentary authorities try every legal trick in the book to censor and silence Nigel. 

Rubbish – cite a single example to substantiate such a silly claim.

Being in a Group means they can no longer freeze him out at key moments.

He manages to do this himself with the inanity of many of his comments – a performing monkey without the control of an Organ Grinder is a liability.

Do read the column inches in the press and the near total lack of National coverage of UKIP of any gravitas – because none is earned!

Above all, the formation of an opposition Group was exactly what the Europhiles and our enemies didn’t want us to do.

That UKIP has made itself look fools and behaved like fools and conjoined with the gutter sweepings of EU politics can surely not, in the most tortured and deluded mind, be construed as of benefit to these United Kingdoms.

That equally applies to creating a new political party in the Parliament.  It is exactly the step our enemies do NOT want us to take – which is why we MUST take it.

You are beyond ANY doubt your own worst enemies.

Would supporters of UKIP have so much ammunition in their efforts to clean-up the Party to TRY to make it electable as a Party that honourable men and women would vote for if informed – It is the very style of leadership and parasites l;ike yourselves that provide the amjmunition and drive true UKIP supporters and Patriots to exposing your corruption, dishonesty and outright lies – so clearly made for self enrichment.

Winston Churchill said in a speech in April 1941:“Give us the tools and we will finish the job”

It is well known that it is a bad workman that endlessly blames his tools.

UKIP Leadership and its maggots can find any number of excuses for their failure but are clearly unwilling to
CLEAN-UP THE PARTY to MAKE IT ELECTABLE

That clarion call might have been crafted with this issue, this Party and this moment in history in mind.

Wordy and pretentious cr@p – which book did which illiterate find this in!

This vote is about giving the Party the tools to finish the job.

It is clearly NOT the Tools at Fault but the corrupt leadership.

1 As a result of a vote in committee in March 2011, it is very likely that the restriction on using grants for referenda will be totally abolished. This is particularly relevant to any referendum held under the proposed European Union Bill 2011 currently going through Parliament. If a sovereignty referendum is called, all three of the old parties will in future be able to use this money to campaign for a “YES” vote. If we do not take this money we will be severely at a disadvantage in such a referendum. If we join up, however, we can use their funds to fight for a “No Transfer” vote.

My Word YOU have Gone Native – YOU can not be real quoting EU woffle as justification for your foolish claims.

YOU imply that EU committees have some relevance in the law making process – SINCE WHEN!

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#0438* – APRIL – 2 VERY SOUND REASONS to Vote NO to PEPP

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#0438* – APRIL – 2 VERY SOUND REASONS to Vote NO to PEPP
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APRIL – 2 VERY SOUND REASONS to Vote NO to PEPP!

That Stuart Agnew MEP & Mick McGough Espouse a YES vote must tell you all you need to know to be certain to vote NO & Preserve UKIP!

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APRIL – 2 VERY SOUND REASONS to Vote NO to PEPP
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that Pan EU Political Party Membership is espoused by these two proven totally dishonest individuals speaks volumes for the prostitution of UKIP to their aims and values as they seek their personal self enrichment and aggrandisement.

      
Neither of these odious individuals have ever shown ANY interest in the probity, morality or reputation of UKIP or the interests of its members.

Stuart Agnew and Mick McGough were both only too willing to lie, bully and cheat for their personal selection CLICK HERE both men colluded in corruption and are without honour or integrity.

That Stuart Agnew MEP brought UKIP into disrepute when exposed involved in Fraud by The Sunday Times is irrefutable and that he has made ZERO contribution to the aims of members to Leave-The-EU is clear as he defrauds the tax payer  for his own gain.


Mick McGough is a low life beneath contempt with neither dignity, self respect nor integrity CLICK HERE

That these are the caliber of proponents for the prostitution of UKIP to aid The EU should come as no surprise to the informed as they would clearly do any underhand deal for personal gain.
 
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