Ukip-vs-EUkip

We aim to inform YOU & provide an archive re: Ukip to TRY to make it fit for purpose

  • GOOGLE TRANSLATE

  • Follow me on Twitter

  • TWITTER N.I.Bs.

  • PAGES:

  • Just Say NO to EU

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • FleXit A WAY FORWARD

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • HoC – EU Exit Plan

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • EU_Referendum.com

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • JUNIUS On UKIP

    JUNIUS is a Blog authored by informed individual in The EU 'Team UKIP'; Supporters of UKIP over many years who seek to expose corruption & make UKIP genuinely elec table for the informed!

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • REFERENDUM & How To Win!

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • Greg LANCE-WATKINS Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com

  • Contact YOUR Political Servants

    Contact Your Politician
    writetothem.com
  • GLOBAL WARMING, Heaven and Earth

    PLIMER, Proff. Ian

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • June 2023
    M T W T F S S
     1234
    567891011
    12131415161718
    19202122232425
    2627282930  
  • Flying Spaghetti Monster

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • The EU In A Nutshell

    ROTHERHAM, Dr. Lee & STARKEY, Dr. David

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The EUropean PARLIAMENT

    CORBETT, Richard; JACOBS, Francis & SHACKLETON, Michael

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The European Union

    BOMBERG, Elizabeth; CORBETT, Richard & PETERSON, John

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • GLOBAL WARMING, The Real Disaster

    BOOKER, Christopher

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The GREAT DECEPTION

    NORTH, Dr. Richard & BOOKER, Christopher

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The MANY NOT THE FEW

    Dr. Richard NORTH

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • MINISTRY of DEFEAT

    NORTH, Dr. Richard

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The RIGHTS of ENGLISHMEN

    YOUNG, William - 1793

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The ROTTEN HEART of EUROPE

    CONNOLLY, Bernard

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • SCARED to DEATH

    BOOKER, Christopher & NORTH, Dr. Richard

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • Ten Years on

    ROTHERHAM, Dr. Lee

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • VIGILANCE

    MOTE, Ashley (MEP rtd.)

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • Voodoo Histories

    AARONOVITCH, David

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • WATERMELONS

    DELINGPOLE, James

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

Archive for the ‘Local Elections’ Category

#0429* – UKIP’s More Gullible Sycophants

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/04/2011

#0429* – UKIP’s More Gullible Sycophants
.
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
.
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
.
UKIP’s More Gullible Sycophants would seem to be either stunningly gullible or staggeringly dishonest!!

.

~~~~~~~~~~#########~~~~~~~~~~

Hi,

having posted Dr. Eric Edmond’s Blog posting on one of the many Forums I contribute to some chap styled callumquinn made what I considered to be an eroneous and misleading comment as follows:

[quote author=callumquinn link=topic=17161.msg418067#msg418067 date=1303213503]
You are wrong. UKIP is growing, percentage of voter has risen by nearly 8% in certains places like cornwall and norwich so[/quote]


Hi,

thanks for your correction of Dr. Eric Edmond based upon your opinion and local exceptions.

It would seem you have not seen either of the two most recent polls nor kept abreast of the activities of both a number of The UKIP MEPs and also the furore that has broken out on UKIP NEC recently.

However with a couple of isolated examples I do indeed agree – Which result are you in fact alluding to in Cornwall and Norwich, where of course on such a localised basis they MAY have found a candidate of some caliber, who like yourself seems woefully ill informed.

You may wish to brush up on some of the facts at CLICK HERE or CLICK HERE

To view the ComRes poll done on Apr-17 CLICK HERE

Also the ICS Poll is worth looking at CLICK HERE

You will note that the professionals would seem not to endorse your opinion.

Do be minded that in 18 years out of some 19,500 political positions in Britain held by election UKIP has less than 30.

Unfortunately due to an indisputable lack of vision, strategy, tactics, leadership, probity, morality, integrity, training, competence or trustworthy behaviour UKIP would seem to claim to be only standing in around 1,250 seats (including paper candidates) in the Local Elections this May and I gather this is not even eligible for free electoral broadcasts where we are told the break point is about 1,500.

It is sad to see what is at the moment our only potential lifeboat being so abused by its leadership in their self serving self enrichment and the parasites they have hired as praise singers in return for the crumbs from the troughs on the gravy train.

I am confused by your claim relative to Norwich where you claim a gain of 8% as in July 2009 you will note Glenn Tingle’s vote:

The result in full was:

Chloe Smith (C)           13,591 (39.54%, +6.29%)
Chris Ostrowski (Lab)      6,243 (18.16%, -26.70%)
April Pond (LD)            4,803 (13.97%, -2.22%)
Glenn Tingle (UKIP)        4,068 (11.83%, +9.45%)
Rupert Read (Green)        3,350 (9.74%, +7.08%)
Craig Murray (Honest)        953 (2.77%)
Robert West (BNP)            941 (2.74%)
Bill Holden (Ind)            166 (0.48%, -0.17%)
Howling Laud (Loony)         144 (0.42%)
Anne Fryatt (NOTA)            59 (0.17%)
Thomas Burridge (Libertarian) 36 (0.10%)
Peter Baggs (Ind)             23 (0.07%)

Yet by 2010 election his result had seemingly collapsed:
General Election 2010
Result:

Conservative                  17280
Labour                        13379
Liberal Democrat               7783
UKIP (Glenn Tingle)            1878    4.41%
BNP                             747
Others                          261

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
.

~~~~~~~~~~#########~~~~~~~~~~

 

 INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance

&
Work With THE MIDNIGHT GROUP to
Reclaim YOUR Future 
&
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:
(IF You Have No INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance Candidate) .
to Reclaim YOUR Future 
&
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK
Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins
tel: 01291 – 62 65 62

Posted in Chloe Smith MP, ComRes Poll, Cornwall, Eric EDMOND Dr, Glenn TINGLE, ICS Poll, Local Elections, Norwich, UKIP | Leave a Comment »

#0425* – UKIP AFTER 18 Years Seemingly Only Fielding 1250 candidates!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/04/2011

#0425* – UKIP AFTER 18 Years Seemingly Only Fielding 1250 candidates!  
.
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
.
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
.
UKIP AFTER 18 Years Seemingly Only Fielding 1250 candidates!
One day of training in shelf stacking and birth control hardly represents a training programme!!

.

~~~~~~~~~~#########~~~~~~~~~~

Hi,


I have noticed very little comment on UKIP relative to the local elections on May 5th. spurred by the comment in the Gulf Times:

Ukip picking up anti-migrant vote

The Independent/London

The UK Independence Party (Ukip) is picking up wide support from voters who are hostile to immigration but regard it as a “polite alternative” to the far-Right British National Party, new research concludes.
Ukip is at pains to stress it is not a racist party, but fresh academic research suggests it will benefit from Islamophobic and xenophobic sentiments within the electorate.
It argues that Ukip appeals to similar groups of voters as the BNP, but manages to capture their support because many people are deterred from backing Nick Griffin’s party because of its “stigmatised” image.
Almost half of Ukip’s core support is female, unlike the male-dominated BNP, suggesting it is attracting women sensitive to “party reputations for racism and intolerance”.
At last year’s general election, Ukip stood on a platform of slashing migration levels and deporting illegal immigrants.
One of the study’s authors, Matthew Goodwin of Nottingham University, said: “It is not an out-and-out far-right party. It’s more subtle than that. But underneath the gentlemanly Euroscepticism, there is no doubt they are picking up voters who are concerned about immigration.”
Goodwin added: “On immigration and racism, Ukip voters fall between the BNP and the Conservatives. We find that xenophobia and political dissatisfaction are significantly correlated with Ukip support.
“Hostility to immigrants and disaffection with mainstream parties are associated with significantly higher Ukip support. This is evidence that Ukip is mobilising voters anxious over immigration and rising diversity, and that some voters consider Ukip a ‘polite alternative’ to the BNP.”
Senior Tories are worried that Ukip, which is fielding a record 1,250 candidates in next month’s local elections, could exploit disenchantment among traditional Tory supporters over the coalition with the Liberal Democrats.
David Cameron’s speech last week, in which he warned high immigration levels had harmed some communities, was seen by Tory MPs as an attempt to head off a “Ukip effect” in the polls on May 5. Recent polls have suggested the party is picking up support of up to 5%.

I may be wrong but this would seem even with the many paper candidates to indicate that UKIP are unable to field sufficient candidates to qualify for a Paid National TV Broadcasting campaign!

To date in 18 years UKIP has failed to get to 30 elected members of the British structure (including MEPs) – out of the 19,500 or so available – in my opinion largely due to lack of clear leradership although Nigel Farage has done the best he can he is after all UKIP’s only permitted performer and he has, seemingly in vanity or else in lack of confidence, ensured no one else may rise to perform and thus many of those who could have asisted UKIP have left him to divide and destroy UKIP.

It would be a fool who claimed Farage was other than a good speaker but none but a fool would for a moment consider him a competent leader. Nor sadly would one describe anyone in UKIP’s leadership team of any caliber or gravitas with a clear leadership ability. This is the tragedy that is destroying UKIP and as one leading candidate featured in The Yorkshire Post said ‘It doesn’t matter how much money you waste there is no substitute for activists’ – I would add to that ‘TRAINED & MOTIVATED’ activists.

Sadly with the abusive, untrustworthy, ill informed and divisive leadership team there seems no way forward, however well Farage may perform as the front man, as clearly he has NEVER shown any sign of gravitas or leadership ability, whether dressing up as chickens, failure to control his staff, inability to act with probity, integrity, transparency or in terms of motivating activists. Farage could have done much for UKIP and thus for Britain as a performer, but one need only look at the caliber of the leadership team and its parasites that he has gathered around him and those who have quit in disgust CLICK HERE to realise the problems of UKIP are not those of its performer, who with firm guidance and clear leadership could have achieved much but one of leadership, discipline and structure.

After a quick look I discovered even UKIP has no clear indication of who is standing and I lack the time to go through each list to build it up – as clearly does UKIP’s own professed Local Government Guru!!

Re: How many candidates have UKIP got nation wide?
To quote the UKIP Placeman: 

Well in the spirit of “Do It Yourself” I’ve picked out in red the elections in the north east and looked up how many seats will be up. The “Threshold” for a TV Broadcast is to have candidates in 1/6 available seats. Parish Councils DO NOT COUNT towards the seat calculation for the TV. If others would care to do the same for their regions then the list will soon fill up.

North East Local Authorities in 2012
144 Seats Available.
Target for TV Broadcast = 25

Metropolitan District Councils Electing by Thirds (36)

Barnsley
Birmingham
Bolton
Bradford
Bury
Calderdale
Coventry
Doncaster
Dudley
Gateshead 22 Seats
Kirklees
Knowsley
Leeds
Liverpool
Manchester
Newcastle Upon Tyne 26 Seats
North Tyneside 20 Seats
Oldham
Rochdale
Rotherham
Salford
Sandwell
Sefton
Sheffield
Solihull
South Tyneside 18 Seats
St Helens
Stockport
Sunderland 25 Seats
Tameside
Trafford
Wakefield
Walsall
Wigan
Wirral
Wolverhampton

Unitary (Single tier) District Councils Electing By Thirds (18)

Blackburn With Darwen
Derby
Halton
Hartlepool – All up in 2012 due to Boundary Changes, 33 seats
Hull
Milton Keynes
North East Lincolnshire
Peterborough
Plymouth
Portsmouth
Reading
Slough
Southampton
Southend
Swindon
Thurrock
Warrington
Wokingham

Shire (two tier) District Councils Electing by Biennial (7)

Adur
Cheltenham
Fareham
Gosport
Hastings
Nuneaton and Bedworth
Oxford

District Councils Electing By Thirds (68)

Amber Valley
Basildon
Basingstoke And Deane
Bassetlaw
Brentwood
Broxbourne
Burnley
Cambridge
Cannock Chase
Carlisle
Castle Point
Cherwell
Chorley
Colchester
Craven
Crawley
Daventry
Eastleigh
Elmbridge
Epping Forest
Exeter
Gloucester
Great Yarmouth
Harlow
Harrogate
Hart
Havant
Hertsmere
Huntingdonshire
Hyndburn
Ipswich
Lincoln
Maidstone
Mole Valley
Newcastle-Under-Lyme
North Hertfordshire
Norwich
Pendle
Preston
Purbeck
Redditch
Reigate And Banstead
Rochford
Rossendale
Rugby
Runnymede
Rushmoor
St Albans
South Cambridgeshire
South Lakeland
Stevenage
Stratford-On-Avon
Stroud
Tamworth
Tandridge
Three Rivers
Tunbridge Wells
Watford
Welwyn Hatfield
West Lancashire
West Lindsey
West Oxfordshire
Weymouth And Portland
Winchester
Woking
Worcester
Worthing
Wyre Forest

I hope this information is of some help in understanding the problem as without clear leadership, a sound structure and clear aims, values, strategy and tactics with regular training and motivation that will not only recruit activists rather than parasites UKIP may well act as an enrichment mechanism for a few and may well continue to fool enough of the public to stay in the game but clearly it lacks the leadership to even ensure a sufficient number of candidates even with the many ‘paper candidates’ to get a free broadcast it seems.

As the brighter readers will have noted over many years I have continually applauded Nigel Farage as a performer and clearly he is still virtually UKIP’s only asset but that he lacks leadership skills and is divisively out of control and unable to control even his own parasites and sycophants is clear for all to see.

So sad when it is so obvious UKIP is our ONLY lifeboat at this stage but without competent leadership, training, activists, vision, strategy, tactics and structure it will continue to spin around in circles fed on by the maggots attracted by the money gathering more as it loses its good people.

One must ask oneself if UKIP in clearly being unfit for purpose is not a dangerous obstacle in the shipping lanes and doing more to sink the ship of state than help it!
.

~~~~~~~~~~#########~~~~~~~~~~
 
 INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance

&
Work With THE MIDNIGHT GROUP to
Reclaim YOUR Future 
&
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:
(IF You Have No INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance Candidate) .
to Reclaim YOUR Future 
&
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK
Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins
tel: 01291 – 62 65 62

Posted in LEADERSHIP, Local Elections, Nigel FARAGE MEP | Leave a Comment »

 
%d bloggers like this: