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Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/03/2010


              UPDATING info. Posted on 06-Mar-2010
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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!



Getting Fat On The Gravy Train

Betrays Sinclaire AND Britain

No One Voted for an anti Jewish, Racist, sexually intolerantEUkip
allied to violent pro EU extremists
in support of a Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping!


I have seen the Tory spin information saying two UKIP MEPs are in jail !!!.
No UKIP MEP is in Jail. (? Sadly this is in fact a lie – Tom Wise was a EUkip MEP and remained a member of the party until HE chose not to renew his membership in March 2009, until February 2009 he was an authorised Branch Chairman – Currently he is in Prison serving a 2 year prison sentence for his criminal theft of public funds)
No UKIP MEP has been to Jail. (? Sadly this is NOT true – Besides Tom Wise UKIP MEP who is currently serving 2 years for his criminal activities Ashley MOTE MEP was sent to prison for Benefits fraud some years before Nigel FARAGE  betrayed his long term associate David LOTT and removed him arbitrarily from the number 2 position on the EUkip selection list of MEPs and placed Ashley MOTE in position.

The due processes EUkip had put in place were not adequate checks and Ashley MOTE was elected as a EUkip MEP. Ashley MOTE was deselected but occupied the position of the elected EUkip MEP even whilst he was in Prison for part of a 9 month sentence. MOTE was elected by EUkip voters and served his Constituency for his full term – In fact asking more Parlaimentary questions than ALL of the other EUkip MEPs put together and making more speeches than ALL of the EUkip members put together as the EUkip members having gone native joined a pro EU membership group and were representing the Ind.Dem. group in the Parlaiment NOT EUkip.)

This is contemptible election spin which needs a reply, so here goes: (? NO it is accurate and it is sad that this particular EUkip MEP felt he should lie to mislead people on his web site!)

1 Ashley Mote was never a UKIP MEP because once we found he had a case pending we stopped him taking his UKIP seat and that was before seats were taken in 2004. His sins were nothing to do with EU money as it was before he got his hands on any.

To our anger the EU would not let us reject him from thbe UKIP list, which is what we strongly requested, (he lied in his application papers). So from day one he sat as “unattached” but never, never, never a UKIP MEP. This was because Nigel Farage took very swift action as soon as it was known that he had a case pending against him, but this had nothing to do with MEP expenses

2 Initially Tom Wise MEP was cleared by the Parliament (? Sadly this again is a lie – he was NEVER cleared) and told no OLAF investigation was necessary. Tom has not taken any money, he did however draw down from his budget to pay a contract and then paid it back into his budget when he decided not to pay it all to the contractor. (? This again is a lie and was not only proven so in Court but Tom Wise pleaded guilty to the crimes in a change of plea in Court when his Barrister was unable to prevent the presentation of computer records which backed up the Bank statements and signed contracts PROVING he was telling lies and had embezelled public money – copies of some of the documents I supplied to the Bedfordshire Constabulary shome time after I had notified the m of the crimes and put in a complaint to standards in public office and made much in other complaints to the authorities showing that it could well be a fact that the police had offered unlawful treatment favouring Wise because he had been a Policeman and was also allegedly chummy with certain Police Officers.

To view some of the provenance showing the author of these accounts to be clearly dishonest can be seen at: CLICK HERE )

Nigel Farage correctly took a robust view, asking Tom to leave our group for the “unattached.” (? This is just a tissue of lies as shown above and also as shown in the lies of Douglas Denny which can be seen CLICK HERE )
It was a UKIP member who initiated the investigation of Bedford Police. (? As I have shown it was NOT and much of the praise for Tom Wise being brought to book must also go to Daniel FOGGO who with myself brought the story to public attention with the story in The Sunday Telegraph and Daniel Foggo has published numerous subsequent accurate reports in both that paper and subsequently The Sunday Times – he also wrote an article recently regarding Mike Nattrass MEP, which had some similarities!

Nattrass – a foolish blowhard – has also made a fool of himself making much noise about prosecuting the Sunday Times when there isn’t a prayer of any honest lawyer letting him make that much of a fool of himself.)  

The police initially said the request was of no interest but the UKIP member reported the Bedford Police to Police Complaints for favouritism on the grounds that Tom Wise was a former police officer. This motivated an enquiry which is not complete. Tom is innocent until proven guilty. I believe him to be innocent.

(? The self serving pack of lies above are clearly shown to be untrue and as the outcome in the Courts showed the author was almost as wrong as he could be! 
Surely he can not be so stupid as to have believed what he wrote but such a level of dishonesty does give one pause for thought when going on to read his accounts – Are they Just as dishonest and just as much a self serving tissue of lies? I leave it to the reader to decide!)
1. Do I employ my wife? Answer NO.
However she works with me in both Brussels and Strasbourg and is paid nothing and takes no expenses. She believes in the UKIP objective.
2. Do I employ family? Answer NO.
3. Do I use my house as my office? Answer NO.
I have a total of 2000 sq ft of offices in Birmingham. Which is exclusively used as my main MEP office base.
4. Do I have a second home in Brussels or Strasbourg? NO
I do not claim anything towards homes, motes etc at all.
5. Do I claim travel allowance for trips outside of the visits to parliament (i.e. official jollies)? NO. Not a single one.
6. I have my own question. Has any UK MEP handed back money having audited their figures within the “allowances” and found they under spent? I am not aware of a single one, are you?
So let’s move out of the EU and save the cost of a whole unnecessary expensive layer of politicians and followers….. VOTE UKIP
At the beginning of the 5 year period the system was explained.
Travel expenses. Calculated on the distance from home to the parliament.

These expenses are automatically handed over on production of the proof that the MEP travelled and did not hide in Brussels between the periods. We were told that this system meant very easy admin. No costly accountants and no need to keep the tickets etc. I complied.
Daily Allowance. A similar system applies. Each MEP gets an allowance. They can stay 5 Star (and overspend the allowance) or sleep on a park bench (making a profit to drink away) and still get the same. Simple system and no expensive accountants etc. In point of fact I always stayed in hotels with my wife. My visits were for voting days and committee days only as I did not want to be a resident “over there” sponging on daily allowances.

My office base was Birmingham helping constituents. This is where I was when others were in Brussels. Those with permanent accommodation in Brussels have an incentive to be there to collect expenses and justify the tenancy.

Note. Allowances are reduced if the MEP voted less than 50% that day and further reduced if attendance is below a certain level. My voting record is 83%. I took the parliament at their word and took those standard allowances only. Therefore the hotel bills, meals etc are recycled paper. I was thankful that my time was not spent adding up bits of paper and paying accountants.
What I need to say is that my Wife came with me to both Strasbourg and Brussels. She took no separate expenses and no pay. So my standard allowance in fact covered my wife and I.
I complied with the system and would have complied with a system encouraging detailed figures if requested.
My question about these ‘standard allowances’ must therefore be “Did any UK MEP hand back any unspent portion of the above two standard allowances, having spent time on this self imposed, time wasting exercise?”
My costs actually exceeded my allowance due to taking my wife to work with me. I complied with the system.
3. Allowances for visits other than to Brussels or Strasbourg.
This can be a very expensive area of claim.
My expenses under this budget are ZERO.
Therefore no one can say I went on a “Jolly” as I refused them all.
Prior to being an MEP I visited 25 out of the 27 states at my cost and during my time as an MEP I went to Poland many times and also to Berlin, but I did not claim an EU bean.
3. Office Allowance.
Is there a UK MEP returning any under spent office allowance to the EU?
It is paid like clockwork into bank accounts with no claim even being made. I doubt if there is an established system to repay excess figures. So why do some MEPs audit the figures and is the cost of the accountants in the figures, which is the very expense the EU wish to avoid! If no money is actually returned to the EU what is the point?
This is another standard annual figure. Again we were instructed that it was an “allowance” and if we exceeded there would be no more money. No accounts or accountants were necessary and this would save us and the EU costs etc. All so simple.
The EU having failed its accounts for 14 years needed a new set of figures to audit like a second NO vote in Ireland.
However here are my details. My office premises have been in use by me since the day I took my seat. They are at 123 New John Street, Birmingham. They are exclusively used by me in my capacity as an MEP and those working to support me.
They comprise more than 1400 sq ft of open plan office, all of which was carpeted at my expense. I have a further private meeting room of 600 sq ft.In addition I have shared warehouse space for leaflets and deliveries.
I have a telephone system paid for by me (12 phones), desks(6), tables(60 filing cabinettes(6), book cases and word processors (4), laptops (2), photocopier, answer machine, kettle, cups, fire extinguishers etc.
I pay rates, insurance, and electricity charges for my lighting, heating and air con as well as telephone bills. I buy paper, stamps, tea bags, coffee, sugar, milk and newspapers and pay for cleaning and repairs.
In compliance with the system I did not record these costs because they are not required. I shall do so from the present time having seen that some see this as necessary (but why, see first para?)
My question again is “Did any UK MEP having done the accounts actually hand money back” I have no idea if ‘a system for handing back a standard allowance’ exists. Why all the expensive accounting?
My costs actually exceed the allowance due to the large office size. You do not need to know more than £10 per sq ft is a very cheap office rent in Birmingham and 2000 x £10 = £20,000 leaving little for rates and all the other overheads described.
The main point I think is that I correctly use the allowance. I do not have an office at home. I am available for visits of constituents. I will from now record all items to bore you all silly.
I opted out of my standard pension on principle. So I do not benefit there.I was told there was a commercial additional pension I took it. Then we were told that there was an under funding problem and a bail out by the parliament was needed. I voted against that package as did all UKIP MEPs. Check the other parties!
My wife and family are not paid by me. Nothing at all in the five years.
My Wife works for me free of charge. She attends Strasbourg and Brussels with me. She has no pay, expenses or other funding. She believes in the cause and is happy to help.
These have signed the EU contract and are paid via PAYE. The tax and NI figures for Employees are calculated by Bentley Jennison Chartered Accountants.
Year 2007
One Employee: Lyn Nazemi Afshar
Year 2008
Three Employees: Lyn Nazemi Afshar, Susan Adams, Martyna Lewandowska
EU Service Provider Contracts
These are paid direct from the EU into bank accounts of those listed.
Year 2007
Four Service Provider EU Contracts: Derek Bennett, Nikki Sinclaire, Hills Solicitors, Antonia Illsley
Paid on invoices.
Manic Monday (web site)
Year 2008.
Four Service Provider EU Contracts: Derek Bennett, Nikki Sinclaire, Hills Solicitors, John Fletcher
Paid on invoices.
Manic Monday (web site)
I do not see how I can disclose personal information of amounts paid to employees or contractors without their authority. It actually contravenes EU law!! However I am prepared to do that if they all agree.
I can only tell you that they all worked hard and gave value for money.
Mike Nattrass MEP
the Solihull Times and Sutton Coldfield News
The Euro, an EU superstate project, is shaky because currency sharing is difficult for states with differing finances, standards of living, economic cycles and productivity.
“Convergence” by cash transfers (“structural funds”) and restricting government budgets (“stability pact”) failed. Germany complied but Italian debt is 106% of GDP (stability pact max 60%!). Greece and Spain have trade deficits of 13% and 10% of GDP reflecting cheap easy borrowings to import goods. Now Italians borrow cheaply because their debt is in euros! The glue is coming unstuck.
So Italians pay 0.5% higher for debts than Germans who stop lending to Spanish. Banks stop lending to banks, questioning their assets. Politicians give taxpayers money to shore up private debts, compromising commercial banks by this cheap lending. The taxpayer bears the risk, but worse, on the continent the eurozone currency spreads this burden e.g. ECB (European Central Bank) takes on Spanish euro mortgage debt while their construction industry flops!

South euro flagging economies want the ECB to reduce interest rates to allow higher euro inflation to write down their debts. Germans want the opposite showing concern that current euro inflation of over 3% is above its 2% target.

German backed ECB inflation controls may cause certain countries to leave the euro to re-establish their own currencies, allowing their traditional devaluation and inflation to solve their debts as before.

As UKIP says “One-size does not fit all.” 
If you think this ‘heavy’ try the EU controls on the UK economy!

I expect Mike Nattrass to ammend his accounts page from the capture I have. You can view his accounts as he perceives them if you CLICK HERE

The comments in red at the head section of the text above are entirely mine and only included to show to what extent this individual is in my opinion a liar and dishonest – a man unfit, possibly through pure stupidity, to be a holder of ANY public office – Most clearly unfit for purpose and in that he has made no outspoken defence of Nikki Sinclaire UKIP MEP yet speaks out loudly in defence of criminals not someone anyone with half a brain would trust.

It may be of interest to readers that he has adopted membership of the Racist, Xenophobic, anti Jewish, pro EU membership and violent Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping.

One is forced to ask how this betrayal of the electorate can be construed as serving the interests of leaving the EU.

To claim as some of the dishonest MEPs do that to go into an election with a totally corrupt and corrupted morality can possibly be honest or in the interest of the people especially as some are saying they will leave the EFD after the election – it is understood also that Lord Pearson will jump ship immediately after the election and there is some talk that Stuart Wheeler may chose to disassociate himself even before that.

As for the so called accounts presented above I have grave doubts they have much meaning when the preamble is so clearly dishonest and corrupt.


When will Nattrass & the other EUkip MEPs on the make and the take learn that paying money back or pulling out of something after you have been exposed by the media as a hypocrite does not make it right!

Where have we heard that one before? You may recall Tom Wise fell into that trap when he handed back some of the money he had stolen, using the documents Lindsay Jenkins signed for him – for more details CLICK HERE

And now to Mike…..

Mike Nattrass also signed up to a second EU pension fund.

In July 2009 he told Bruno Waterfield, Brussels correspondent, of the Telegraph:

“I take no MEP pension as I resigned from it but I did sign up to the extra pension scheme and tried to resign from that also. With UKIP I voted against further pension increases or support”.

D’OH! So why did you sign up to it and then later try to resign from it? Did you get confused about what you were doing?

Come off it, Mike. Farage left it. So can you. Don’t take us for idiots!

And in an email dated 30/9/2006 he said:

“I will not receive an EU pension, when I leave the Parliament, because I have rejected it”.

Mike, there is not much point rejecting one pension if you are then going to take the second one! Carry on like that and some of us may even start to think that you are a bit of a hypocrite!

HERE are the facts – the rest of the messages have been removed and may well be published later – we are giving Nattrass the opportunity to see how transparent he really is and he can publish his correspondence with Bruno Waterfield in full. On his web site.

While you are at it Mike your idiotic accusations made against The Sunday Times and pretending they had ruined your chances of being leader – firstly how about looking in your diary and identify anything of consequence you have done to get Britain out of the EU in 6 years as an MEP – that could go on your web site too.

Then perhaps you could publish copies of your demands for retribution from the Sunday Times otherwise people will know you are not serious – remember when you made all those public threats and then ‘bottled’ and never did anything.

OK where are the letters or were you just making noises?

Almost as dishonest as your web site as published above and almost as shamefull of your gutless failure to back Nikki Sinclaire and your preference to work with Racists, Xenophobes and anti Jewish pro EU extremists advocating segregated buses and hunting homosexuals in The EFD – Nice one Nattrass you must be so proud – well so much richer anyway!


What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62


I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.

Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.


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