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#0711* – Ex UKIP Tory MEP David Bannerman has an obvious recruit!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/12/2011

#0711* – Ex UKIP Tory MEP David Bannerman has an obvious recruit!
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Ex UKIP Tory MEP David Bannerman has an obvious recruit!

Peter Reeve would seem to be serving two masters for his personal gain!

Who do David Bannerman, Peter Reeve, Lisa Duffy actually represent or is it just personal gain?

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I found this interesting:

A UKIP Regional Organiser Peter Reeve who cohabits with a UKIP NEC member a paid employee of the party and when both Peter Reeve & Lisa Duffy BOTH used UKIP to be elected as local councillors – just as David (The Desk) Bannerman sold out the Tory Party and used UKIP to get himself elected it seems just like the duplicitous and untrustworthy David Bannerman Peter Reeve is also playing a double game.

You will note on the Tory EU site Peter Reeve is still on the payroll of David Bannerman working for the Tory Party – or perhaps leaking UKIP information to them or even perhaps employed because he knows enough about the corruption and dishonesty of David Bannerman that he could ‘bury’ him politically.

Don’t forget David Bannerman – a proven liar who claims to be related to a long dead Prime Minister who he has ZERO blood relationship with and who betrayed the Tory Party to get elected and has now betrayed the electorate for his own gain is currently under investigation by OLAF – The EU Fraud investigation organisation for his abuse of the public purse as shown by The Sunday Times and admitted to by his co-conspirator and co-defendent Stuart Agnew MEP – a representative of The NFU:

You will note the comment of Stuart Agnew which is an outright confession of criminality and fraud against the public purse!:

“I can tell you that Peter is paid partly by me out of my assistance allowance here partly by David Bannerman . He does very little work for us, virtually none. He is working for the party. And that’s strictly illegal.

I understand that not only has David Bannerman lied about his claimed ancestor but has betrayed The Tories, UKIP and the electorate! It seems that David Bannerman lied by omission in his application to betray UKIP and join the Tories.

It seems Peter Reeve is acting very similarly but sadly UKIP has consistently attracted the corrupt, the dishonest and the unethical to its leadership and their parasites!

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#0710* – UKIP Takes Heed of This Blog’s Warning of Incompetence!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/12/2011

#0710* – UKIP Takes Heed of This Blog’s Warning of Incompetence!
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UKIP Takes Heed of This Blog’s Warning of Incompetence!

For just howmany years have we heard the meaningless mantra that UKIP will be professionalised!

Yet time and again we see this sort of crass behaviour and sad, sick obsessives like Mick McGough – as an NEC member – sending offensive eMails as spam – my spam filter shows almost 8,000 unread Mick McGough spam nuisance postings in less than 3 weeks!

Little wonder new harassment laws have been introduced to protect against stalkers and obsessives!

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you may recall this blog’s warning in posting:

#0704* – UKIP Ballot Sheet for London Ass. + Candidates

Which showed how desperately low grade the contenders were with established liars and cheats in their ranks! We also provided a ballot paper you could print out which contained absolutely no security to prevent multiple voting and vote rigging, in keeping with the general standard of utter incompetence and unprofessionalism we have all come to expect of UKIPand its leadership.

This was not UKIP’s only piece of idiocy as shown by:

#0705* – Gerard Batten & UKIP Extremist Racism Demeans its members

Lisa Duffy has already had to publish an apology distributed by a contender in the election for Mayor! A contender who as you will note is also living off the public purse as a Regional Organiser!

Now as a result of this blog highlighting the crass incompetence of Lisa Duffy and the party leadership here is an apology from the party chairman who seemingly lurches from one crass amateurism to another.

Minded it was back in February that the poor littler chappie was charged with trying to save Nigel Farage’s and Godfrey Bloom’s bacon after they were found guilty in a tribunal he has still failed to achieve a reconciliation with Nikki Sinclaire – though to be fair the apology published by the party has saved them from the humiliation of a guilty verdict and massive damages in The High Court so far.

Beg as they might to get Sinclaire back on board as an MEP to avoid damages clearly they will have to guarantee her the right not to join with UKIP’s extremist racist EFD chums and to remain in The Non Escrit Group and also to be lead candidate in the 2014 election and with a considerable amount of autonomy.

Either way here is Steve Crowther’s latest ‘cock up’ and example of unprofessionalism!

Dear UKIP Member

London Assembly List ballot

It has been brought to our attention that there are some flaws in the balloting process currently underway to gauge Members’ preferences regarding the London Assembly candidate list.

The NEC has decided that we need to take remedial action, so:

  We will be immediately re-running the ballot of London Members, with added security on the ballot papers. This will happen as soon as the new ballot papers can be printed (next week).

  We will be re-editing the candidates’ 150-word declarations, to ensure that no significant content or meaning is lost.

  We will be adding a reply-paid envelope to improve turnout, and will ensure that members have sufficient time to vote; though it would be appreciated if members would return their ballot papers quickly, to account for the delays in Christmas post.

In every other respect, the process will be as previously described. The results of the members’ ballot will be provided to the NEC who will approve and publish the final list.

I apologise for the shortcomings of the first ballot. In our haste to get the London List resolved, and with the sudden arrival of the Feltham & Heston by-election, we have not performed as well as we should.

Yours,

Steve Crowther

Executive Party Chairman

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#0651* – UKIP’S Mick McGough Closely Follows Our Blogs!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/09/2011

#0651* – UKIP’S Mick McGough Closely Follows Our Blogs!

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UKIP’S NEC Member Mick McGough is one of the many 1,000s who Closely Follows this Blog & Junius!

For all his huff and puff, his lies, his stupidity, his cheating and his tasteless avatar – Astonishingly he has NEVER been able to identify a single misleading post or ever a consequential lie to mislead on either post!

On the other hand Mick McGough’s dishonest, corruption and lies are well documented and proven!

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Who pays for the Junius/GLW ,pro-EU,anti-UKIP axis ?

The poor lamb can speculate all he likes but he seems to think I am a liar like him – I have NEVER been paid for my blog as I have frequently stated.

I have received a small amount of money for helping to promote a blog and a referendum historically, to cover my expenses in opposition to membership of The EU – but no other payment as I have often shown.

I cannot believe they’d be so prolific without recompense for their (wasted )time
Given that one of the team recently married can one conclude that the team posts are pensionable ?

We appreciate that as a bean counter of very little brain adding up other peoples achievements we can understand why Mick McGough might well only act for personal gain – hence no doubt his lies to try to get on the EU Gravy Train!

Laughably I note the protestations from the CHEPSTOW (reminds me of Luton) Sword of Truth that he only deals in truths .

Yet for all his silly name calling this proven liar Mick McGough has never shown an error of any consequence on this or Junius blog. NOT ONE in many 1,000s! Nor have his corrupt cronies!

More like medically induced hallucinatory drivel,a rehash of past rants and the self deluding opinions of others with delusions of grandeur.

I wonder if that childish outburst will make him be taken more seriously by the corrupt EU Leadership – who also read this blog avidly printing out huge sections of it in the hope that we have made a mistake.

ps.contrary to the published ‘truth’ of GLW my Avatar is not a picture of the UKIP Party Director but someone much,much closer to the pony-tailed one.

 Yeah I had refrained from accepting this claim from other sources as I couldn’t prove it but the sort of sandy haired plumber look in a stripey top has been claimed to be the Mare of Ramsey so often that I succumbed to riding on the hearsay – particularly in the light of the company and the propensity of the woman in question for stripey tops:

Whether we can believe Mick McGough with his proven track record for telling lies and being wrong is irrelevant that his avatar is tasteless and manages to demean someone remarkably like the Mare of Ramsey will no doubt suffice for most.

Frankly who could care less – his postings are childish enough!..
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#0504* – The Mare Rides Out From Ramsey Parish!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/05/2011

#0504* – The Mare Rides Out From Ramsey Parish!!
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The Mare Rides Out From Ramsey Parish!!
Is it looking for a chance to get the rest of the family on the gravy train?

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Dear Branch Chairman,
Please find attached a Statement from the Party reference the resignation
of David Campbell Bannerman who has now joined the Conservatives.

Statement from UKIP regarding defection of David Bannerman:*

It is clear that David Bannerman has decided to put career before principle.
He was obviously disappointed with his result in the Leadership election
last year where he achieved 14% of the vote, and concerned about whether he
could get re-selected by UKIP members in the Eastern Region.

So he has decided to secure his berth in the European Parliament until 2019,
by joining a pro-EU party.

David has expressed his admiration for David Cameron, who has announced that
he will not give the people of this country a referendum on Europe, because
he believes we should stay in. He has some nerve criticising UKIP’s
credibility.

When he was chosen as a candidate for UKIP in 2008, David signed a statement
that said that he would “remain as a member of UKIP for the full 5-year term
or otherwise retire from the Parliament”.

We call on him to resign, so that we can get a real Euro-sceptic to take his
place.

Regards
Lisa Duffy
Party Director UKIP
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Hilarious – Imagine suggesting honourable behaviour in UKIP which uses endless smears, lies, distortions and attacks founded on fantasy and put forward by pond life and the ashamed who hide their shame in cowardice behind anonymity.

What UKIP leadership and its self serving parasites knows about honour, integrity, ethics or honesty could be written on the back of Lisa Duffy’s Bridle Chains as Mare of Ramsey with a felt tip pen!

Of course it was Lisa Duffy, Peter Reeve, Douglas Denny and others who backed David Bannerman for leader – no wonder he only got 14%.

Who is going to steal money to help Stuart Agnew to pay Peter Reeve as Regional Organiser now? How will Chelmsford be funded, will the oleaginous Stuart Gulleford have to get a job as the local stray cat catcher commensurate with his talents.

David Bannerman has been desperately courting The Tories for a year and when turned down by Geoffrey van Orden in the EU Eastern Region he switched to trying to get in in the South West – Now Geoffrey van Orden has maade, or had made, the decision he will not stand again for the Tories the obstacle has been removed.

David Bannerman was a prime example of the folly of dishonestly rigging internal selection processes to place candidates as displayed in some detail CLICK HERE

One wonders if – Now that Marta Andreasen MEP has had the ‘mythical whip’ withdrawn and was all dolled up to celebrate whether she was going for an interview for Spanish TV as the local elections have swung so clearly towards the center right – was she dressing up especially for her own press conference even?

Watching the speed witgh which the parasites in UKIP wriggle and turn to try to reposition their snouts near the trough is a game in itself.
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#0502* – Nigel FARAGE UKIP MEP on The Politics Show

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/05/2011

#0502* – Nigel FARAGE UKIP MEP on The Politics Show
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Nigel FARAGE UKIP MEP on The Politics Show admits electoral failings!

As if to prove it Lisa Duffy paraded around the pub in her chains of office as Ms. Insignificant of Dellusions of Grandeur so very embarrassing to see ‘such small beer’ paraded as great achievement!

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Nigel FARAGE UKIP MEP on The Politics Show on Sunday admitted to Jon Sopel that UKIP had got their strategy wrong for the local elections and that he had proved incapable of leading UKIP.

Nigel also claimed his protege whom he sponsored Marta Andreasen who he placed as an MEP did not know what she was talking about and was out of touch and that she hadn’t even been to Britain for a couple of months.

Nigel clearly showed he was out of his depth and had failed as a leader which is a great tragedy as he was UKIP’s greatest asset and was an excellent performer on the media for UKIP – Sadly, as is often the way, promoted beyond his ability he is proving damaging to the cause.

IF Nigel can be persuaded to step back from ALL influence in UKIP and recoup his skills as a performer with the firm guidance of a competent leader, I believe UKIP may still provide the Lifeboat we had all hoped for as supporters over the years.

A unifying hand of mature competence is now essential to rid the party of its parasites and start to rebuild for 2014.

Regards,
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#0488* – UKIP & The MARE TAKE RAMSEY FOR A RIDE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/05/2011

#0488* – UKIP & The MARE TAKE RAMSEY FOR A RIDE
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UKIP & The MARE TAKE RAMSEY FOR A RIDE!
Even UKIP NEC Members Are Embarrassed & Have Spoken Out!

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Hi,

my thanks to the team at Junius for this blog and you will note it supplements the details at CLICK HERE

& the comments of UKIP staffer now NEC appointee Steve Allison:

The politicisation of any previously non-political group is actually a very bad thing in my opinion. Would you say it was a good thing that Remembrance Sunday is becoming more and more political? How long before it’s just another campaign activity that we all tick off on our campaign plans? I have never and will never lay a UKIP Wreath at a remembrance parade. I don’t want politics in that day. Look at the outcry when Tony Blair tried to use Royal occasions for party politics.

Try reading the Triumph of the political class by Peter Obourne. Brilliant Book. We should be fighting for less politics in things not more.

I do congratulate Lisa and her team on their result but I am still slightly saddened that politics has gained another foothold. In my opinion party politics shouldn’t be a part of local government at any level.

& the additional facts provided at the end of Junius’ Article!

UKIP: Disgust in Ramsey as Reeve and Duffy politicize parish council

UKIP spin doctors have made much of the fact that the party recently ‘gained control’ of it’s first council in Ramsey, Cambs.

Forget the spin. Here are the facts.

Ramsey Town Council has the same powers as a parish council. Nothing more, nothing less. To present this a massive victory for UKIP is absurd!

Candidates were always non-political. But then along came Reeve and Duffy.

We can confirm via our contacts in Ramsey that recent events have left a very sour taste in the town with allegations of ‘dirty tricks’ on the part of Reeve and his munchkins.

For instance:

During the campaign, Reeve posted numerous election posters across the town WITHOUT getting permission from the local authorities. Complaints were made to the returning officer and they were removed. However, within a few days they had mysteriously reappeared. Reeve, of course, claimed to know nothing about this.

Reeve also distributed election literature which failed to comply with electoral law. For instance, official UKIP leaflets and letters failed to mention who had promoted or printed the literature.

They are allegations that UKIP’s election expenditure far exceeded the amount allowed by law.

The Lib Dems did not contest the election and the Tories failed to distribute election literature or conduct even a basic campaign. UKIP was given a easy ride.

Three of UKIP’s candidates don’t even live in Ramsey.

Reeve – at the very first council meeting – had the UKIP councillors appoint Lisa Duffy – his girlfriend – mayor. He also instructed them to appoint Ian Curtis – his friend – deputy mayor.

He then told the non-UKIP councillors – he used the words ‘you lot’ – to sit on the other side of the table facing ‘his councillors’ did not wish to sit alongside them. This arrogant, combative stance has angered many in the town.

Reeve is also claiming credit for planning a Micro Business Centre in the town, In fact, this idea was first put forward by the ‘Ramsey Intiative‘. See: LINK

Reeve and Duffy are VERY ambitious people. They ultimate goal is sit alongside Farage in Brussels. Reeve also thinks that one day he will become UKIP’s first elected MP. He has even promised to marry Duffy in Westminster once elected as a Cambridgshire MP!

They are using the people of Ramsey for their own sordid ends. Greed is the sole thing that motivates this dishonest pair!

Delusions of grandeur has always formed a large part of the psyche of this unsavoury duo! Let’s just hope that the Town’s officials are good at damage limitation!

We have been amused by the amount of UKIP supporters on Twitter, Facebook and the blogs who seem to think that winning a majority (in crude fashion) on a non-political council is a cause for celebration.

And don’t forget that Reeve is still under investigation by OLAF for alleged fraud! The OLAF case number is OF/2010/0282. See: LINK

Here is the video where Stuart Agnew – UKIP MEP
admits illegally paying Reeve!

And for more on Duffy: LINK

I understand that there are even allegations floating around Ramsey that claim that Peter Reeve even used cash – presumably stolen by Stuart Agnew from the tax payers in the style of the fraud he has admitted to – hearsay claims that the cash was used to bribe support of a Tory member or their switch to UKIP which would not surprise me as UKIP leadership team have shown themselves time andf again to have nothing but contempt for Electoral Law, the Electoral Commission and any sense of moral, ethical or financial probity.

I can well imagine the likes of Peter Reeve as a staffer of UKIP would be all too willing to buy votes in one way or another – I believe him to be that dishonest and corrupt but in this particular narrow example I have absolutely no clear evidence beyond the gossip from Ramsey and the belief that the amount of posters and leaflets seemed disproportionate to the norm within accepted electoral practice.

I had also understood that it was a requirement of electoral law on what are in political circles nick named ‘Dog Dirt Council’ namely irrelevancies like the Parish Council of Ramsey albeit flattered by its grandiose  styling as ‘Town Council’ that it was the custom – even perhaps the law that Councillors at very least lived or had businesses within the Council bounds in fact is it not within the specific ward?

Do read CLICK HERE there is a host more detail and it is sad to see a little village like Ramsey so exploited and demeaned:

The people of Ramsey may be better served were there less childish inclination to seize the chain and by CLICK HERE & HERE

Rather than see Ramsey demeaned but to me far more importantly rather than see UKIP demeaned by this unseemly spectacle of bragaddocio over a tiny local council as if it were some great achievement it is so sad to think that after 18 years this can be considered worthy of such promotion by UKIP when as this is clearly their greatest achievement together with beating The Greens – let us face it their results were an embarrassing abject failure.

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#0480* – UKIP’s NEW MARE RIDES IN!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/05/2011

#0480* – UKIP’s NEW MARE RIDES IN!
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UKIP’s NEW MARE RIDES IN!
The Pretence of Consequence for UKIP’s CEO is No More Than An Embarrassment!!

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an interesting comment on the obvious stupidity of letting idiots loose acting in their own interest and self serving greed for status to desperately try to lie, cheat and leapfrog their way to listing as potential MEPs – Just how embarrassing can the on line snippet in The Daily Mail be regarding this disaster?

Genuine Patriots in UKIP must be relieved that the story of this foolish and dishonourable failure did not get into any papers of note.

Few of any intelligence or decency would disagree with UKIP’s staff member and now NEC appointee Steve Allison who comments:

The politicisation of any previously non-political group is actually a very bad thing in my opinion. Would you say it was a good thing that Remembrance Sunday is becoming more and more political? How long before it’s just another campaign activity that we all tick off on our campaign plans? I have never and will never lay a UKIP Wreath at a remembrance parade. I don’t want politics in that day. Look at the outcry when Tony Blair tried to use Royal occasions for party politics.

Try reading the Triumph of the political class by Peter Obourne. Brilliant Book. We should be fighting for less politics in things not more.

I do congratulate Lisa and her team on their result but I am still slightly saddened that politics has gained another foothold. In my opinion party politics shouldn’t be a part of local government at any level.

Clearly neither Peter Reeve nor his doxy Lisa Duffy would have the intellect or fundamental common sense to realise the damaging and demeaning folly of their stupidity.

So within hours the foolish pair dashed down to get their hands on the chain for a quick snap which demeans not only UKIP but the office of this glorified Parish Council – Ramsey is sadly made to look stupid by such behaviour – could they find no one of sober and self effacing competence?

This does rather show the stupidity of unprofessional UKIP with no competent training being used and abused for personal gain! What a shame to politicise yet another area of life just for these odious nobodies!

  • Population in 1801 – 1894.
  • Population in 1851 – 4645.
  • Population in 1901 – 4823.
  • Population in 1951 – 5770.
  • Population in 1971 – 5646.
  • After 1981 the parish population figures were divided into to the two de-facto parishes of Ramsey St. Mary and Ramsey Town.
  • Population in 1981 – 5816 (Ramsey St. Mary parish) and 3652 (Ramsey Town).
  • Population in 1991 – 4995 (Ramsey St. Mary parish) and 5181 (Ramsey Town).

I assume this includes the quoted 1,400 students at the local college!

Sadly this does put the over blown claims of UKIP’s achievements in perspective:

The Mouse That Roared!

Ruritania Rides Out?

I do appreciate this is being promoted as some sort of achievement to cover for the wholesale failure of UKIP in domestic politics.

I live in Chepstow in Monmouthshire at Geo. Sat. 353 484-194 013 or if you would rather NP16 5ET & NP16 5EX – you will note that is almost slap bang in the middle of the town of Chepstow.

Chepstow has a population of around 20,000 and in most wards it is a struggle to find someone to stand for the clown Council as it is – like all other Town Councils – virtually irrelevant – in fact I haven’t a clue and less interest who is the Mayor, a title awarded on the basis of ‘Buggins Turn’. £1 for each time I have been approached to stand or be co-opted to unfilled seats would pay for a pleasant evening for myself and a couple of friends at a local restaurant.

I note the comments of a UKIP supporter, in the local area of Ramsey, Len Baynes on one of the UKIP controlled Forums is telling and clearly UKIP would seem to have done themselves more harm than good with this appointment:

There are times when it is a good strategy not to win some elections. It has been a good strategy by Peter Reeve & Lisa Duffy to win district & council seats in their town & Lisa is set fair to win the final district council seat next year.

But the way they have taken over the parish council has left a bad taste in the town. The council has always been non-political and has had good respresentation from the town & the villages which make up the Ramsey ward. But UKIP flooded the ballot paper with candidates some of whom don’t live in the ward; and won an immediate majority. They then voted in Lisa Duffy as mayor and Ian Curtis as deputy mayor. Indeed the whole stance is combative so instead of everyone sitting randomly round the table Reeve has put all the UKIP members on one side of the table and the rest on the other side.

This is too much too soon and has shaken a lot of people in the town. It would be stupid to lose the bigger prizes by appearing to want a “benign” dictatorship in the area.

So far contary to some of the statements on this forum the Tories have been quite laid back about UKIP in the Ramsey area as they have huge majorities in Huntingdon DC and Peterborogh City council. This year the Lib DEms didn’t put up a candidate and the Tories put up a paper candidate & did no canvassing or electioneering. However make too big a noise and maybe they’ll get together in a common cause and start spending some money.

Come on guys use your brains

 Another supporter in damning Peter Reeve with sarcasm and feint praise for mounting this politicised raid describes the situation as Lilliputian!

It is hard to disagree – yes indeed well done for personal achievement there will always be those who seek to busy body and claim importance and it is great that our democracy allows for such self important people to gather and discuss, with no authority, the siting of benches, doug fouling in the streets, and as a vent for complaints about late night noise on some Councils they even sometimes have a local community Constable attend.

Even locally I have NEVER heard a political party crowing over the banal squabblings of the mental midgets on our council.

Sorry to present this as some great achievement shows UKIP up and demeans the party more than assists them.

That the party had such risible results in the recent local elections is further highlighted by the fact that they make much of this when let us face it Steve Povey would have been embarrassed if such agrandisement of his time as Mayor had been thus presented!

It is all as toe curlingly embarrassing as  having UKIP represented by proven liars and cheats like Mick McGough, David Bannerman and the like – the gonadically challenged like Gerard Batten, John Bufton and their ilk the utterly stupid like Godfrey bloom or the fraudulently dishonest such as Stuart Agnew, Derek Clark.

Then to see some irrelevant hireling writing blogs and essays dragging the name and reputation of Winston Churchill into the gutter politics of UKIP so demeans the party as to further render them unfit for purpose.

The tragedy is that UKIP was our only lifeboat and they have so demeaned themselves that the people of Britain have resoundingly rejected them as even after 18 years and many £Millions invested out of the 19,500 available seats for election their only claim is to have done better than the crypto communist Greens and promote as their great achievement ONE Mayor placed in a town council! Less than 30 seats are occupied across Britain by those elected as UKIP and of those 13 were elected on the wake of protest against Westminster’s perceived corruption to be MEPs – seen by the British public as largely irrelevant – and who could argue!

Sadly in or should I say within The EU UKIP’s residual 9 members in support of Farage would seem only to be seen as a slightly embarrassing comedy act. It is hardly surprising when one looks at the pond life gathered and rewarded as praise singers – all too willing to offer praise of Farage in return for the monies he liberally contributes to them from the public purse!

Is it any wonder that UKIP is described as bankrupt which I readily concede is something of a foolish statement by the half baked accountant and self publicist Marta Andreasen but that they are technically insolvent must come as little surprise as they desperately wriggle and squirm to avoid further liabilities for their utter incompetence in leadership and man management that has laid them open to serial exposure in the Courts.

Clearly they are broke as they have not as yet honoured their moral debts to me of £12,500 and clearly can not pay them – nor even honour the debt they incurred by their action as ordered by Cardiff Courts of £8,500 – yes it seems they are technically bankrupt their only excuse may be that they are morally bankrupt and utterly duplicitous.

I note Farage has been asked ‘to do a turn’ on 31st. May at a funded talking shop where the promotion is based on offering as compensation for listening to him ‘At least the cocktails will be enjoyable’ – in the invitations!
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#0266* – UKIP FAILURE & SURVIVAL DEPENDS ON OTHERS FAILING WORSE!

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Hi,

much has been made on a couple of political forums of one of the blogs on The Telegraph web site and its reportage masquerading as predicion as with this discussion I am involved in at:

http://www.politic.co.uk/ukip-party-forum/

 

Re: Record UKIP poll ratings

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After all the recent downers on UKIP here is something to cheer up the faithfull.
Record UKIP poll ratings – only a matter of time before they overtake the Lib Dems – Telegraph Blogs

Hi,

yes the private blog you quoted was a very good bit of spin.

The LibDim support has rightly collapsed and was doing so at the General Election but they were brought into the boy kings ridiculous coalescence of oil and water, which has clearly produced little more than froth.

As for the details quoted in the blog they are in fact wrong – do read the You Gov Poll itself and you will find the blogger misquotes it.

Almost 18 years since UKIP launched is it really considered an achievement of merit when out of some 19,500 varied seats to which politicians can be elected in these United Kingdoms UKIP has less than 30.

Including MEPs elected not on merit, not on ability, not on competence, not on integrity but by Nigel Farage and Mark Croucher promoting The BNP at every opportunity and capitalising of the grossly misleading media coverage of Westminster MPs’ secondary allowances and a handfull of individuals abusing the trust.

The LibDims are indeed in collapse and UKIP may well capitalise on this but with not a single aspirant of any gravitas, competence or integrity in a party bereft of leadership, without vision, strategy or tactics and with a clear reputation of childish stunts, lack of structure and some of the most unpleasant liars, cheats and scheisters in British politics with no stable funding!

Then of course UKIP is held back by both its overt and its covert participation and support of racism, xenophobia, anti Judaism, sexual intollerance and criminal behaviour and violence.

Is it any wonder that UKIP are not within a sniff, let alone striking distance, of gaining the respect of the British electorate in a Westminster election with the hope of getting an MP elected.

Consider the last by election: UKIP dumped their local candidate and parachuted into a Manchester region constituency at Oldham & Saddlebrook a comic book clown from the pubs of Liverpool to mumble his way unintelligibly through his speech opportunities.

Paul Nuttall as Nigel Farage’s placed puppet Chairman of UKIP or is it Farage’s other puppet Steve Crowther who is chairman or the ridiculous Lisa Duffy (oh of course his puppet CEO!) – is it any reason that despite a spend of over £50K relative to a probable £1-2K in the GE yet his achievements were catastrophic at the cost.

You will have noted that Farage’s party in the by election did not even aim for election, nor to make a step to Leave-The-EU and its most notable behaviour was a pub crawl with the aim of displacing The BNP as the stated aim!

As a long term UKIP supporter I find it sad that the blogger you quote was inventing his evidence and sadly was plain wrong, as is clear from the facts.

Unlike many of the parasites surrounding the Farage leadership I have a very clear vision, potential strategies and many tactics but Farage’s antics will ensure UKIP is seen for what it is and the blogger quoted will never see their prediction come true.

Also unlike many of the salaried praise singers of Farage leadership I have no need to roll in the gutter with distortion and lies – nor ad hominem attacks of supporters, the facts of the message are much more consequential than the messengers.

How do YOU suggest UKIP is cleaned up to actually make it electable rather than just a minority default vote?

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Hi,

Recently you will have seen cautionary information regarding UKIP being duped regarding Pan EU Political Parties and selling out their principles and Steve Allison whom this blog cautioned against as Farage’s man in disguise re. the NEC Election as with Mick McTrough, Elizabeth Burton and others whose presence on the NEC as puppets and muppets brings UKIP into disrepute.

We also cautioned regarding Steve Allison as inappropriate as Campaign Manager for Tim Congdon’s leadership bid.

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How very apposite – I wonder howmany other people will be Older, Wiser & Sadder having permitted people like McTrough, Duffy, Denny, Allison, Williams, Curtis, Clark, Burton, Batten, Smith, Croucher, Wood (Malcol), Andreasen seize control to ensure it remains the Farage Fan Club at the cost of UKIP Principles, values, manners and ethics.


For those who wish to know the facts and avoid the spin you may care to commence, before reading on, to CLICK HERE or CLICK HERE and HERE and also HERE 

I am heavily reliant for quotes below on Wikipedia which I show in Green, for Barbara Booker aka Barboo which I show in blue, any comments by UKIP members I show in purple – I hope this makes the post easier to follow.

In consideration of UKIP forming a Pan EU Political Party as The EFD or similar – which, particularly in the light of Derek Clark’s betrayal of Britain and Andreasen’s disinterest in Britain working for Spain and herself and Farage’s speech in Berlin at the Reinbeckhalle on Saturday (for details CLICK HERE).
With comprehensive details and text + Pictures CLICK HERE

So let us consider the difficulties which for starters include the concept that to gain back Tax Payers’ money from The EU any elected Party MUST decide to form a Pan EU Political Party – Thus not just strengthening The very enemy they seek to dismantle but in democratic terms fore-swearing their rights of free speech and self determination as they MUST – having first jumped through the malign EU Hoop next accept INSTRUCTION on how they may spend the money!

Controversy

Europarty funding goes to Europarties and stays with Europarties: the funding cannot be used for the funding of other political parties and in particular national political parties.[8] National political parties disinclined from joining Europarties are thereby disadvantaged.[18] 25 Members of the European Parliament petitioned the European Court of Justice, arguing that this contravened the EU’s stated values of pluralism and democracy. The case was rejected after eighteen months.[19][20] A closely related case fought by the French Front National, the Italian Lega Nord, and the Belgian Vlaams Blok (now Vlaams Belang) was appealed[21] and rejected.[22]

Clearly there are many reasons to fore-swear the malign diktat of the central dictator committee’s bribes – that they are bribes would of course be reason enough to the principled and reject the entire concept for honourable men and women, but they are bribes and we are talking about self serving politicians!

Regulations

As of 1 November 2008, the regulation governing Europarties is Regulation (EC) No 2004/2003 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 4 November 2003,[8] as later amended[9] under codecision (see above). According to that regulation’s European Commission factsheet,[10] for a party to become a Europarty it must meet the following criteria:
  • it must have legal personality in the Member State in which its seat is located.
  • it must observe the founding principles of the European Union, namely the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.
  • it must have participated, or intend to participate, in elections to the European Parliament.
  • it must have in at least one quarter of the Member States, one or both of the following:
  • either it must have received at least 3% of the votes cast in each of those Member States at the most recent European Parliament elections.
  • or it must already be represented by Members, whether Members of the European Parliament for those states, or Members of the national Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional Assemblies of those states.
  • it must publish its revenue and expenditure annually.
  • it must publish a statement of its assets and liabilities annually.
  • it must provide a list of its donors and their donations exceeding €500.
  • it must not accept anonymous donations.
  • it must not accept donations exceeding €12,000 per year and per donor.
  • it must not accept donations from the budgets of political groups of the European Parliament.
  • it must not accept more than 40% of a national political party’s annual budget.
  • it must not accept donations from any company over which the public authorities may exercise a dominant influence, either by virtue of their ownership of it, or by their financial participation therein.
  • it must get at least 25% of its budget from sources other than its European Union funding.
  • it must submit its application by the 15 November before the financial year that it wants funding for.

All that boils down in real terms to – YOU WILL comply with OUR TERMS that we have decided to IMPOSE and if you decline:

Firstly you will miss out on a relatively unaccountable free handout of other peoples’ money for YOU to feather YOUR nest and in so doing strengthen the corrupt aims of The Malign and malevolent EU.

Secondly if you do NOT do as we tell you we will imply that you opposed these basic terms:

it must observe the founding principles of the European Union, namely the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

Right lets look at this cleverly worded blackmail by The EU!
The EU dishonestly claims:

it observe the founding principles of the European Union,

It does NOT they are merely flowery words that The EU completely ignores!

namely the principles of liberty,

Even Prisons offer periods of Free Association – there are no fundamental Freedoms on offer in this EU Political Prison – The Gulag is set up to ensure The State functions as a supra National Empirate enforced upon the largely opposed people – due to standards of education and a propaganda budget of £2.4Billion stolen from the prisoners annually – the balance of the population are so ignorant they have no understanding of the evil being done to them or they are on the Political Gravy Train enjoying the bribe culture and are bought and paid for.

democracy,

The EU pretends it has a Democratic deficit when in fact it has made it abundantly clear it has absolutely no knowledge or understanding of the basic tenets of democracy!

respect for human rights

This of course is a bare faced lie as even The United Nations, for which I have almost as little respect as I have for The EU or the rest of the New World, Globalist dissorder being managed to control through chaos – The UN clearly states in its Foundation Charter that a fundamental human right is the right of self determination.

There is absolutely no right of Self Determination in The EU where as you know The French, The Dutch & The Irish ALL voted and rejected membership of The EU and engagement with the New Constitution Lisbon Treaty to the horror of the Dictator Committee of apparatchicks and their vassals – such that they blocked other Countries having the opportunity of Self Determination and lied to achieve their corrupt outcome.

They have no respect for Human Rights – one need only study the new codex of law ‘Corpus Juris’ based upon the laws of The Emperor Justinius with an overlay of code Napoleon to produce a ‘better fairer system of REPRESSION’ I quote ‘CORPUS JURIS – Mireille Delmas-Marty EU Publication for DrG Finance ISBN 2-7178-3344-7 end of para 3 page 40

and fundamental freedoms,

What fundamental Freedoms do we enjoy that we did not enjoy or more to the point wished for as British citizens that are in some way granted that were precluded under British law had we wished for them and enjoyed our fundamental human right of SELF DETERMINATION.

and the rule of law.

The EU has no legitimate Laws as it has enacted a huge series of diktats and due to the total lack of democratic input and the fact that only a minority are in favour of membership they have no validity.

Further when edward Heath negotiated and led these United Kingdoms backwards into this arcane concept he has admitted both on TV in an interview with David Frost and subsequently repeated on the floor of The House of Commons and thus on record in Hansard that he and his Cabinet deliberately lied to Parliament and the peoples and also it seems The Monarch when he stated that ‘This will lead to no essential loss of Sovereignty’ – he has confirmed that he lied because he believed that the people would vote NO in the referendum if they knew the truth.

Many people believe the people voted NO anyway, despite his criminal deception and thus at the time TREASON. Many believe it was by lumping of Constituencies to fudge a result!

Under UK Law at the time which was upheld by The Treaty of Vienna on International Treaties it clearly states that should one party mislead another to obtain their agreement, acquiescence or compliance to a contract or agreement said contract or agreement shall be deemed null and void.

Thus Ipso Facto Britain’s signature to The Treaty of Rome is by any stretch of the imagination NULL & VOID.

Thus since every single EU encroachment since that unlawfull document is merely an ammendment founded upon the pre supposition that the foundation document was sound there is no stronger argument against Britain’s membership of the centralised alien and malign committee dictatorship of The EU than the simple fact that there is prima facie evidence that our entire participation is Ultra Vires.

WE ARE NOT LEGALLY MEMBERS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION

Now consider the excellent fisking of Steve Allison’s confused statement lifted earlier from The UKIP members’ forum – the site where those too timerous to discuss their views and promote and defend them crano rectally retentatively navel gaze from the inside! An incestuous and heavily moderated site for those of little political nouse and less competence to impress eachother in a vacuum!

Steve Allison on pan-EU parties

Junius has posted comments said to have been made by Steve Allison on the UKIP members’ forum, following an NEC meeting at which a presentation on forming a pan-European party to access additional EU funding was discussed.

The Euro-sceptic Parties, like UKIP, tend to shy away from forming organisations that are seen as taking them deeper into the system. As illustrated by the almost frenzied rush by some sections of UKIP to ensure our party is not contaminated by receipt of such money! This means Euro-sceptic groups don’t access the funding that is available and leave the field clear for the pro-EU organisations to grab all the cash.

UKIP Members seem to fixate on the requirement that to draw down such funds the party must “observe the founding principles of the European Union”.

However, those ‘founding principles’ are the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

Which of those principles does UKIP Object to? Obviously we have a different interpretation of them from other parties and nations, and we understand and practise them in a very different way from Continental Europeans. But we, as a party do support these principles. There is no requirement for example to support any other aims of the EU, there is no requirement to support political union or greater integration. The irony is that UKIP could take EU Money and use it to fight political union and further integration in the name of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

So it’s not that such funding isn’t available to Euro sceptic groups. It is just that such groups chose to not access the funding due to some mistaken idea of ideological purity.

The phrase “Cutting off one’s own nose to spite one’s face” comes to mind here.

Paid by whom and with what?
One of the carrots of accepting membership of a pan-European political party would be funding for a “think tank” to develop policy. This would probably be based in the UK with a big slice of 1,300,000 Euro Budget. This money could be used to research positions, produce policies, print and distribute booklets, etc. It could also be used to fund conferences and meetings. Yes I know its a buy off (or a sell out?) but its a lot of money that UKIP could use to fight the EU with.

I rather like the irony of using the EU’s money to fight against it. At least we’d be getting some of our own money back.

If you think about it UKIP does only exist because of the EU! At the risk of breaking NEC Confidentiality I will say there was extensive discussion about this at the NEC and a lot more information is still outstanding. I went into the meeting pre-disposed to fight the “Pan European Party” to my last breath, but I listened to the presentation, I asked questions and received answers and I agreed at NEC that the party should investigate the outstanding issues and the NEC receive another report.

The proposal was then to present this report at a special meeting open to all UKIP Members in London on October 9th. The morning session could have been an official Leadership Hustings and an afternoon session on the pan European party proposal. This would have allowed three or even four hours of informed discussion rather than just the very brief debate and prepared speeches to the motion at conference.

Unfortunately I understand the amendment to the motion was defeated and so the Special General Meeting will now not take place. I think this is a real shame as it would have allowed informed decision making and not knee jerk responses

I have not agreed to the proposal but what I have said is that it doesn’t need to be rejected out of hand without some really serious consideration. There is some serious money on the table and UKIP needs every penny it can get. The key question I asked, and received assurances to, was that being in such a party would in no way mean the end of UKIP, we would still be UKIP and would continue to campaign and stand in elections as UKIP.

The whole thing is by no means a done deal but there are some very attractive carrots on offer and I for one find the irony very attractive in taking EU Money to spend fighting the EU.

Assuming the comments are genuine and accurately reported, they are worth considering in detail as the subject is fundamental to UKIP’s future. The essential points made by Steve Allison are:
quote (Steve Allison)

UKIP Members seem to fixate on the requirement that to draw down such funds the party must “observe the founding principles of the European Union”. However, those ‘founding principles’ are the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law. Which of those principles does UKIP Object to? . . . . we, as a party do support these principles. There is no requirement for example to support any other aims of the EU, there is no requirement to support political union or greater integration.

unquote
Steve Allison would appear to be remarkably poorly informed here. If UKIP members are indeed fixated as he suggests it is because they have heard their MEPs, particularly Nigel Farage, say over and again that the party rejects the state funding of pan-EU political parties precisely because qualification requirements conflict with UKIP aims and principles. Is SA not aware that in 2004 MEPs Farage, Titford and Booth even took the European parliament and Council of Ministers to the European Court in an attempt to kill off the funding legislation? You can’t spend years saying something is dangerous and unacceptable, then suddenly present it as an attractive carrot and expect to carry the membership with you. See the following:

Press release from Jeffrey Titford MEP, 26.7.00:
The European Union plans to fund only those parties which “support the principle of European integration“.

UKIP and EDD press release 18.2.03: The European proposals would require parties in receipt of funding to accept both the primacy of European Union law, and the EU’s Charter of Fundamental Rights. Jeffrey Titford said,
It can hardly be considered democratic to require parties to accept a certain political position, in this case acceptance of the supremacy of the European Union and its bodies, in order to secure funding“.

Daily Telegraph 20.2.03:
Mr Farage said he was proud to be disqualified from receiving such funding. “I most certainly don’t respect the primacy of EU law and I think the charter (of Fundamental Rights) is downright dangerous

Nigel Farage to CIB Liberty News, Spring 2003:
in order for a political party to be registered it must ensure that the statute and activities of the European political party respect the basic purposes of the Union with regard to freedom, democracy, human rights, fundamental freedoms and the rule of law“.

This immediately presents difficulties for parties that disagree with the objectives of the European Union . . . the UK Independence Party would immediately fall foul of the Commission because one of its aims is British withdrawal from the Union. It also disagrees with the principles of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights and does not recognise the supremacy of EU laws over those of Great Britain, making it a complete non-starter under the new rules!

Europarl verbatim report of proceedings 18.6.03, Statute and financing of European political parties:
Booth (EDD) – Two recent opinion polls in the UK gave figures of 92% and 96% as wanting to leave the European Union, and yet this proposal would deny funding to any party who should dare to represent the views of that very large proportion of its citizens“.

BBC Radio 4 ‘World at One’ 27.6.03: Nigel Farage is an MEP for the UK Independence Party. As a member of a party who wouldn’t receive any of the new money he’s furious about the proposals: (Farage)
If you support the political union, if you support the European project you’ll get money, if you don’t you won’t get money“.

UKIP press release, 28.1.04 ‘UKIP MEPs take Euro Parliament to court over state funding of parties’ – UK Independence Party MEP Nigel Farage said,
We are opposed on principle to the idea of state funding of political parties, either nationally or at a European level. It is not an appropriate use of tax-payers money. As if that was not bad enough, the legislation adopted by the European Parliament and the Council of Ministers will discriminate against certain political parties. It requires the recipients of European funding to subscribe to pre-set political ideals, such as agreement with greater European integration“.

Europarl verbatim report of proceedings 8.3.04, Statute and financing of political parties at European level:
Farage (EDD) I do not think there is any evidence that suggests that the voters in my country or in any other country are happy for their money directly to finance political parties at a European level. I have also felt, ever since Nice and Article 191, that this idea that you qualify if you conform to the democratic principles of the Union is potentially a dangerous one. I have some difficulty with the issue of the rule of law. It seems to me that, post-Constitution, some in this place – and I am one of them – will not recognise that new rule of law because we will only be able to leave the EU on terms of the EU“.

UKIP Letter from Strasbourg 22.11.05:
Pan EU Political Parties. Within the Independence and Democracy Group, two parties have emerged. However, UKIP joined neither of them, because there are no other moderate parties in the parliament that want to leave the EU and also, because UKIP disapproves of state funding for parties, which is to be made available to these new combinations“.

UKIP press release 3.2.06:
Snouts deeper in the trough – the European Parliament’s Budgetary Control Committee last night rubber-stamped a massive 19% hike in taxpayers’ money to be gifted to ‘European Political Parties’. Tom Wise MEP (UKIP) denounced the decision. The concept of European Political parties is itself a travesty designed mainly to raise more cash for pro-European political forces. To qualify, parties represented in the European Parliament from at least 7 different countries have to subscribe to a single political platform. This naturally discriminates against those parties that believe in national self-determination“.

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A question that could be put to Nigel Farage at the leadership hustings is, were he and UKIP’s other MEPs lying over that five year period when they kept saying UKIP would be denied funding because of its stance on EU integration, or did they just not understand the funding criteria? And whichever it was, how are members to know they’re not lying / misunderstanding now in their presentation to the NEC?
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quote (Steve Allison)

One of the carrots of accepting membership of a pan-European political party would be funding for a “think tank” to develop policy. This would probably be based in the UK with a big slice of 1,300,000 Euro Budget. This money could be used to research positions, produce policies, print and distribute booklets, etc. It could also be used to fund conferences and meetings. Yes I know its a buy off (or a sell out?) but its a lot of money that UKIP could use to fight the EU with.

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No, UKIP most definitely could not use the money to fight the EU! The regulations governing the funding of political parties at European level (pan-EU parties) and their associated political foundation ‘think tanks’ specifically rule out the money being used by national political parties. To form a pan-EU party UKIP would have to agree a common political programme with parties from six other member states, and the funds could only be used to further objectives set out in that programme. ‘Withdrawal’ would not feature in it since no other EFD members want to leave the EU, and the research, policies, booklets, meetings, conferences, etc, would all have to promote the new party’s aims of ‘improving’ the EU.
quote (Steve Allison)

The key question I asked, and received assurances to, was that being in such a party would in no way mean the end of UKIP, we would still be UKIP and would continue to campaign and stand in elections as UKIP.

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This is only partially true. Legislation currently being steered through the EP’s Constitutional Affairs Committee (AFCO) by the LibDem MEP Andrew Duff includes a draft proposal for 25 seats at the 2014 Euro-elections to be contested by pan-European parties on an EU wide basis. If by then UKIP is in a pan-European party it will not be able to contest these seats as UKIP. Furthermore, although European Party funding cannot be used for campaigning by national parties the reverse does not apply, and UKIP funds can and no doubt will be used for the new European Party’s campaign. Obviously, 25 seats will be just the thin end of the wedge, and at future EU elections UKIP members can expect to see ever more of their party’s funds diverted into the election campaigns of EFD (or whatever they call themselves) MEPs.
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May I take the liberty of reitterating Barbara Booker’s excellent conclusion in my own name!

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