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#446* – EUkip BEFOULS ITSELF AGAIN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/04/2009


#446* – EUkip BEFOULS ITSELF AGAIN

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip BEFOULS ITSELF AGAIN – IF IT LOOKS LIKE Derek CLARK, IT SMELLS LIKE CLARK & IT BEHAVES LIKE CLARK!

Hi,

I note from information received around lunchtime from several sources – but declined to publish without greater substantiation – as I would not wish to accidentally mislead readers if possible – now having established in conversation with part of the Junius operation that they had an associate close to the details and the route of their story was VERY different to my various sources – I felt it apporpriate that Junius published the story at CLICK HERE

I have added more details and opinions backed up by sources at the end of The Junius Article.

Is there nothing that UKIP will not stoop to in order to punish it‘s critics?
Asks Junius!

Clearly not I regret to say – whether bullying, lies, dishonesty, corruption, self enrichment, extortion or nepotism – there is NOTHING too vile for EUkip in their ambition to get their snouts back in the troughs for further self enrichment.

Well I recall the occasion when Nigel Farage threatened John deRoeke that if he continued … he would F****** Well have him killed! Farage was foolish enough to make this threat in front of witnesses he believed to be loyal to him!

One need only consider what EUkip has achieved in 5 years having had 12 MEPs elected – besides of course bringing the British EUroSceptic movement into disrepute, having gone native and garnered a raft of bad publicity. Not least of which was his bag carrier and general fixer Croucher’s involvement with the wing of political chicannery at Searchlight and his general dishonesty. Also Farage’s drunken whoring.

Consider the staggering betrayal of the electorate and Britain by Derek Clark & Nigel Farage in selling out to greater subsidiarity to the EU for Britain or the fraud and attrocious behaviour of Tom Wise EUkip MEP whereby he and Lindsay Jenkins (Researcher for EUkip and sometime speech writter for Farage) face Court and possible prison!

Let us permit Junius to tell us the outline story from EUkip East Midlands:

I have just been informed that Tony Ellwood – Derek Clark’s former researcher – was arrested by Nottingham Police earlier today.

Eight police officers armed with special equipment stormed his Nottingham home at approx 8.30 am.

A search warrant had been obtained because certain individuals had used ‘Crimestoppers’ to invent lies about large scale theft of clothing and money laundering – now that second accusation sounds familiar!

Mr Ellwood was cautioned, fingerprinted, photographed, his DNA was taken and he was tested for Class A drugs .

At 6.00 pm, the Police, realising that they had fallen for a pack of lies, released Mr Ellwood without charge.

I am pleased to say that they were somewhat more humble than they had been earlier in the day.

You will recall that Tony Ellwood was sacked by Derek Clark following disagreements between the two. See LINK

Mr Ellwood, 56, has been a loyal and committed UKIP member since 1994. He was a 3 times General Election candidate, a local authority candidate and for 14 years was UKIP’s elected treasurer for the East Midlands.

As you would expect Mr Ellwood has been left very shaken by the experience.

You may be interested to know that one of Derek Clark’s staff earlier this week predicted to Mr Ellwood that he would be shortly arrested.

Now how did Clark’s staff know of that fact in advance? Who else knew and for how long? Who informed ‘Crimestoppers’ and at whose behest ?

Should not the entire command involved in this disgraceful episode be sacked from their employment?

You can draw your own conclusions but I would suggest that you start making a few phone calls to Clark’s Nottingham office.

UKIP’s leadership has a track record of trying to punish it’s critics.

You may recall that John West made a complaint against Jeffrey Titford and within a few days his UKIP MEP video interview was posted on YouTube by Annabelle Fuller at the behest of her lover.

Derek Clark is under investigation by OLAF – the EU’s anti-fraud office.

Derek Clark OLAF Case Number: D/007/033/04.09.08

Derek Clark OLAF Investigation Number: DD/FD-D2008.A1/7133/OF/2008/0240

This has all the hallmarks of that sordid and dishonest filth Derek Clark.

Many will remember his collaboration with Gerard Batten, one of EUkip’s least significant MEPs, and the odious and dishonest Douglas Denny (so dishonest that he was voted out as Returning Officer in the corrupt leadership election where due to dishonesty Farage stole the leadership, which had he acted with integrity he may well have won by election!).

Derek Clark, seemingly an habitually dishonest little old man, trumped up absolutelly dishonest charges against Peter Baker another long serving and honest member of the party who had been elected Chairman of The East Midlands Region. It seems that after a particularly crass episode of boasting at a public meeting about how he fiddled his expenses Derek Clark was scared that Peter Baker might take action against him.

Many will recall that already Derek Clark had lied to his supporters who had worked so hard to get him elected – promising to stand down within the year as he was far too old for the job!

Clark tried to cover-up his general dishonesty and corruption calling a Kangaroo Court and show trial to remove Peter Baker to empower a placeman who would do his bidding for a fee in his place. Clark came completely unstuck and made himself, Gerard Batten and Douglas Denny look complete fools and small time crooks when they did not get away with their dishonest plan as there were those who believed Peter Baker had every right not only to lead a defence but to field witnesses to prove Derek Clark was a liar aided and abetted by the two low lifes colluding with him in his corruption and dishonesty Gerard Batten and Douglas Denny.

This underhand call to the Police leading to Tony having his door smashed in and his house ransacked by the police thugs has all the hallmarks of Derek Clark and his corrupt oppos. A man who is so beneath contempt as to have acted as dishonestly as he did against Peter Baker would be quite capable of doing something as vile and cowardly as has been done to Tony Elwood.

I spent a weekend with Tony at The Huntsman several years ago when he attended one of my social working weekends – he is a thouroughly decent and loyal individual who was dedicated to UKIP and its original aims, values and principles. If he had ANY fault it was that he was possibly underconfident and too self efacing but on my experience of him I would be only too happy to stand by him in a Court and attest that I believed him to be honest and decent and KNEW Derek Clark to be dishonest, corrupt and a liar with a vile and venal self interest and an unarguable lack of integrity or morality.

As I recall Tony Elwood has a son who was himself in the police however based on the experience of dishonesty of the only 3 ex Police I know of in EUkip that would seem to be of little recommendation! Trevor Colman, Bob Feel Martinis and Tom Wise – not one of whom could one trust as far as one could kick them – dishonest and bullying to the core!

The original UKIP members must be reeling at how befouled their party has become under the dishonest and corrupt centralised extreme right wing authoritarian control imposed upon it for Farage’s personal gain.

Were EUkip to have 70 MEPs elected it would be merely 10 times the catastrophy for our Country as having 7 elected and 70 times the tragedy for patriotic British peoples as having ONE elected. EUkip will not get a single solitary MEP elected honestly as there are insufficient dishonest people in Britain to wittingly vote for their dishonerable corruption.

Just how much more despicable can EUkip become than they have been in their vile abuse of trust and commitment of Tony Elwood or their vile treatment of Gregg Beaman, John West, Dr. Eric Edmond, Dr. David abbott, the generous if rather naiive Martin Hasslam, Nigel Farage’s BNP supporting friend Buster Motram and the many more fundamentally decent folk they have dishonestly attacked!

Then consider for a moment the sordid dishonest, self seeking pond life and scum that have floated to the top as the solids in Farage’s septic tank

the BNP styled Nattrass and the similar bully boy Peter Reeve,

the brutish and ill mannered Lisa Duffy who has so spectacularly failed with her promises of achievement of EUkip Yooof and the dregs that has dredged up!

The ridiculous Ms Oxley and her crass legal opinions,

the idiotic and bad tempered fool Ma Zucherman with his chants of BNP and using mental illness as an insult when NOT looking in the mirror,

the liar and cheat Douglas Denny,

the faintly ridiculous cartoon of himself the dishonest bullying oaf Bob Feel Martinis,

the hireling extremist and serial failure Mark Croucher with his dishonesty and misrepresentation,

the oaf, liar and shameless creep McGough,

the liar and fraud David Bannerman,

the utterly discreditted political prostitute Marta Andreasen (Did you note in her recent video her claim of having been earning 150,000EUro a year and that was why she wanted to get back into tthe EU!!!!)

– Need I continue?

Who is there of gravitas, integrity, ethics, morality or merit one could trust in the leadership of EUkip?

I note from the ‘e’Mail circulated by the childish and self important little Denny that he believes that he is on a par with the Home Secretary and should be entitled to have the police dishonestly seize computers, as they seized one in ‘The Palace of Westminster’.

Denny was clearly sent away with a flea in his ear by Chichester Constabulary for wasting their time and having embarrassed himself by publishing his contempt and criticism of Ma Zucherman, however appropriate, he is now grovelling asking for Michael’s support and advice – how the worm turns.

So that was David Bannerman tossed out on his ear when he threatened John West and I with reporting us to Scotlan Yard’s Political Squad – when no such branch exists hence his bluster was just like his lies about his ancestry – come to nothing!

Then there was the idiotic posturing of NuttAll dishonestly trying to harass Roger Knapman and others for using their lists of members accrued over many years when clearly EUkip has absolutely no respect for privacy or data protection as shown by the various cases still outstanding against them for abuse of Data Protection Laws and also the cautions they have already received!

A measure of their competence can be adjudged by:

Mr Norman Fancett nfancett@talktalk.net Christchurch

Mr Alastair Fantham alifantham@hotmail.com West Herts

Mr Nigel Farage kipse@ukip.org Bromley Borough

Mr Guy Farage carolfarage@aol.com Bromley Borough

Mr John Farley j.farley@murdoch.edu.au Overseas

Mrs Barbara Farmer bfarmer1@dialstart.net Truro and Falmouth

I guess those who know the sequence from the first number 1408 will comprehend the significance!

Talking of worms turning I note the worm Croucher has REturned having seemingly made a cock up of trying to run two pubs, one wonders howmuch of the money he borrowed from EUkip members he ever paid back!

One can understand him having no shame it would seem he has nothing in his life to ever have been proud of! His return is likely to be as damaging for EUkip as was his original stint misguidedly sheltered by Farage to the detriment of EUkip, due not only to his fundamental dishonesty but also his links with extremism.

I wonder if EUkip members will demand an enquiry into the dishonesty regarding Tony Elwood that seems so very like other behaviour by EUkip in seeking to dishonestly damage and defame those who dare to criticise or dare to seek transparency, probity and the raising of standards above the gutter in which most of EUkip’s leadership are so at home!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

Posted in EUkip; UKIP; Tony Elwood; Peter Baker; Derek Clark; East Midlands; Croucher; Denny; Farage; Police; Corruption; Lies; | Leave a Comment »

#445* – More LIES from Bob FEEL MARTINIS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/04/2009


#445* – More LIES from Bob FEEL MARTINIS

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

More LIES from Bob FEEL MARTINIS PLATFORM PROVIDED BY LIBERTAS Anthony BUTCHER!

An open letter to:

Forum Owner UKIPForum now called DemocracyForum
&
spokesman for Declan Ganley’s Libertas.EU
BUTCHER Anthony (T***@UKIPforum.co.UK);

MODERATORS known to me:
Andrew P******* (****@btinternet.com);
Paul W***** [Aardvark] (**********@btinternet.com);
Brendan PADMORE (bpadmore@dsl.pipex.com)

Hi,

PLEASE NOTE:
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/ukip-general-issues/60295-farage-fuller.html#post655892

Please can you remove this from your Forum, it is unsubstantiated and untrue – thus a libel.

Please ensure that Bob FM is made to unconditionally apologise on your Forum for having lied.

In over 40 years of starting, running and managing my own businesses in this Country and others I have NEVER closed a business in debt and I have NEVER been declared bankrupt.

Bob Feel Martinis is clearly a liar.

Feel Martinis’ serial dishonesty and that of Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher and others on your forum brings it consitently into disrepute – however it does all too clearly show the corruption of EUkip and its leadership and many of its supporters.

Their behaviour is beneath contempt and rarely founded on fact, integrity or honesty.

Whether we are talking of the lies and dishonest threats of their BNP styled Chairman and his bully boys, their drunken womanising MEPs, their liars and cheats such as Bannerman and McGough standing for office, the serial failures like Croucher or the general pond life that seem to have so little command of ethics that they are willing to vote for EUkip as the lesser of two evils – unaware that to do so is to vote for and support evil no less.

EUkip does not stand for any British values that any true patriot would be proud of – merely a cheap chavery similar to the idiotic football hooligans we regrettably spawn!

EUkip has been around for 15 years and has had MEPs for 10 (70 MEP years of utterly discreditted endeavour!) and to date their greatest achievement has been inflating childish toys and dressing up as chickens. How is any British citizen one iota better off for being represented by the low lifes, drunks and clowns that have been stuffing their pockets at the expense of Britain having gone native?

Thank You,

Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

Posted in EUkip; UKIP; Bob Feal Martinez; Lies; Dishonesty UKIPForum; Anthony Butcher; Libertas; | Leave a Comment »

#444* – The BRITISH DUMBOCHRACY FORUM

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/04/2009

#444* – The BRITISH DUMBOCHRACY FORUM

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

The BRITISH DUMBOCHRACY FORUM – FORMERLY The UKIPForum!

Today, 09:34 AM
#25 (permalink)


Bob FM
Uber Member

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South Marston Swindon
Posts: 4,465

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey Collier
BobFM: That posting is completely senseless; it has no implicit meaning which can be discerned. Are we to assume that your, ‘scriptwriter’ has abandoned you after only a couple of days, BobFM?


I am sorry you don’t understand. I will make it easy for you GLW has already stated that certain founder members of UKFP are corrupt. He did this prior to JW joining them.

To help Bob FM – aware that he was not the sharpest knife in the box, though I note his medication seems to have been changed or his carer is checking his postings as although he averages over 10 a day on The Forum his linguistic skills at times are at complete variance from others! – I responded to his personal ‘e’Mail to me of the 25th. April in some detail, to assist him, on the 25th.

Aware that he was untrustworthy and likely to misrepresent the truth, as he so often does, to cover myself against his dishonesty, you will note that I posted the ‘e’Mail correspondence in the public domain at:

CLICK HERE

Astonishingly it transpires he is not only dishonest but stupid, as he is still misrepresenting the facts, despite the details being in the public domain and by ‘e’Mail to him.
Note the dishonesty of Bob FM ‘s posting 29-Apr-2009 at:
CLICK HERE

Aware that not only is Bob FM dishonest, and has shown himself to be stupid, his serial cowardice in making distorted and thus dishonest comments about me on the Forum, aware that he will be aided by having an unchallenged platform for dishonesty provided by the owner of the list and certain of the moderators, is beneath contempt but he is clearly amongst like minded corrupt individuals!

Consider the dishonesty of Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny, Mick McGough and various others – this standard of dishonesty and cowardly bullying clearly brings The Forum into disrepute. I appreciate I am personally banned for telling the truth and embarrassing certain of the more corrupt members and openly challenging EUkip for its serial dishonesty and corruption – every single instance of which, that I have put forward, has been proven true and accurate and never once has it been shown that I have EVER set out to deceive or lied.

Perhaps the same standards

could be demanded of other posters.

I was interested to be quoted by someone whose lack of understanding probably accounts for his sheltering behind anonymity:

Yesterday, 11:28 AM #140 (permalink)

skeptyk
Junior Member

Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 11

Quote:
Originally Posted by SponPlague
There are a lot of anti-gays in UKIP, Bob

I find it absolutely disgusting that this forum which is for POLITICAL debate turns into slanging matches for homophobes. Quite frankly, who gives a sh*t about the sexuality of any member/PPC, their abilities aren’t clouded or hindered by their ‘legal perversions’ (c) GLW. Its a sign of how low some of the people on this forum are that when all else fails, lets adopt name calling. Shame on anyone who posts childish tosh like what I have seen regarding a person’s sexuality. Watkins seems to lead the way on the homophobia with some of his blogs about Taylor and he seems to have several acolytes who wish to spread his hate-filled bile on here.

This Tyke’s posting can be found in context if you CLICK HERE

I appreciate ‘homophobia’ is a long word, invented relatively recently by the Politically Correct brigade – no doubrt under the malign influence of The Frankfurt School (aka KGB) through their protiges ‘Stonewall’ – however when quoting it perhaps even someone ashamed of their own name would seek out some facts, rather than display their ignorance in seeking to defame me – as ever Anthony Butcher provides a platform for dishonesty!

Perhaps the Tyke would care to point out ‘like what I have seen’ pertains not to someone called Taylor but Towler – when defaming people it is sensible to get basic facts right even if you seek to dishonestly misrepresent the main substance!

Let us see if ‘skeptyk’ is man enough to put his proper name to his apology, or is that forbidden in his care home, when he has caught up and had explained to him what I DID say rather than being duped by the spin of those who would rather put across what they wish I had said!

May I suggest he starts by reading the facts rather than publishing his hearsay and fantasies – start at:
CLICK HERE

Do not for a moment believe that I have any personal problem with Gawain Towler’s perfectly legal perversions – it is his criminal perversions, as delineated by his wife and admitted to Malcolm Wood and others and graphically explained to The South West Committee which de-selected him on the grounds of his perversions as unfit, that show him to be unsuited as a MEP candidate even for the debased, dishonest and befouled EUkip.

You will note that I have made no allusion to anything as trendy as Homophobia but have left that to the homophobes to use as an accusation against me. I care not a fig for his disgusting perversions, which are legal – only those to which his wife published, which are criminal if true.

I call Gawain Towler to task not for his perversions as you will note, if you study the facts, but for his judgement and braggadocio of publishing details of his sexual encounters and pecadillos – just as I would not vote for the pervert Chris Bryant – not because of his perversion but for his lack of judgement in photographing himself in his underwear and publishing his desire for ‘a thorough good hard F******’ on a web site for pervets in the public domain! It is not the perversion which is in question but the lack of judgement when aspiring to represent others.

You will note that belatedly Gawain Towler realised his own lack of judgement and removed his own blog!

Further I have little but contempt for Gawain Towler as he is proven dishonourable and a liar, who has lied about me for his own personal gain and to the detriment of UKIP.

You may consider Towler fit to represent YOU but I assure you I do not consider him fit to represent me – there again we all have our own standards and you may by now have realised that mine are not in the gutter with EUkip, though I concede your right to enjoin in that gutter. You may even be sufficiently without ethical standards to vote for EUkip to represent you.

I wonder if there will be anyone with sufficient integrity to transfer this posting to Butcher’s debased little Forum?

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

Posted in EUkip; UKIP; Forum; Anthony Butcher; Bob Feal-Martinez; Gawain Towler; McWhirter; Geoffrey Collier; | Leave a Comment »

#443* – THE BETTER RUN THE PUB THE LONGER IT LASTS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/04/2009

#443* – THE BETTER RUN THE PUB THE LONGER IT LASTS

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

THE BETTER RUN THE PUB THE LONGER IT LASTS – I GUESS!

Hi,

I do not for a moment feel surprised at this news and nor do I take any pleasure at it since it probably bodes ill for The EUroSceptic Campaigns of Britain.

One must feel sorry for Croucher as one of his earlier spectacular failures he spent much time on the phone telling me it was Margaret Thatcher’s fault and he hated The Conservatives. It may well have been those failures which threw him into the arms of extremist politics with his odious connections with the extreme organisation Searchlight – that resulted in damage to the credibility of EUkip.

It must be confusing for him to now fail again from a base of two recently acquired pubs some distance apart – no doubt this will be someone elses fault as well!

I hope Croucher is able to obtain gainful employ in a field where he might be a sucess as clearly as a publican he was not well suited and as a Press Officer he was a dishonest catastrophy who did much to damage the perception of EUkip as an ethical organisation. Happy top lie and defame for his own gain.

Many will recal the tissue of lies he presented bringing EUkip into disrepute with The Press Complaints Council – Croucher’s corruption became legendary amongst those of integrity in the know in EUkip during his employ by Farage as something of a ‘fixer’.

Recession calls last orders on our pubs?

19 March 2009

UNDER THREAT? :

The Two Brewers in Dartford

– a pub run by Mark Croucher who was forced to leave the job he loved because of the economic downturn.

PUBLICANS throughout north Kent say the credit crunch and costly bureaucracy is threatening their livelihoods and community life, writes Ed Riley.

“The situation for the industry is dire and we fear for the future. Pubs are an intrinsic part of the fabric of our society. Nothing compares to them. When they are gone it will bring a social isolation to the community, and to lose them for good would be a great shame.”explains Mark Croucher, 43, a former landlord of the Two Brewers in Lowfield Street, Dartford.

FEARFUL:

Former landlord Mark Croucher.


He had to sell the pub back to the brewery in June last year after turnover dropped by more than FIFTY per cent, and has now left the pub trade altogether.

It is a familiar story in north Kent and across the country, as the British Beer and Pub Association warn six pubs are closing every day with the entire industry under ‘real threat’.

Last week your Times exclusively revealed the 100-year-old Kings Arms, in Wrotham Road, Meopham, had closed with more than 20 people losing their jobs.

Mr Croucher, 43, of East Hill, Dartford, said: “I don’t know any landlords at the moment that are saying they are doing better this year than they were last year.

“Pubs are losing turnover by anywhere between five to 50 per cent, and that is having a massive affect on them.

“At the Two Brewers, in 2007, over the course of one weekend in May, we made more than £8000. In 2008, over the same weekend, we made less than half that, taking in just £3,400. It is a balancing act all the time as prices go up and turnover falls.

“It is a combination of factors all conspiring against the trade. People can’t afford to drink out in this economic climate and the overheads are phenomenal. The future is the bleakest it has ever been.”

Landlords across north Kent say a combination of factors have affected the pub industry, including the smoking ban, the increase in tax on beer, the low cost of alcohol in supermarkets and the economic downturn.

Pip Nevell, 47, the landlord of the New Inn in Milton Road, Gravesend said: “I was born in a pub, and I always said that I would die in a pub. But I don’t think there is any chance of that now.

“I have tried to keep away from the doom and gloom, but things are just so hard for the landlords now, it used to be a trade that you did ok on, but now, it is a financial burden.

“Pubs are pillars of the community, we help the community. They are places where people come to talk about their problems, where people go to socialise.

“The smoking ban is what hit us really hard at first, and with the recession as well and the increase in taxes on beer, it has really hurt the pub trade. People are just staying away, they can’t afford to come and sit in a pub anymore.”

On Monday the government’s top medical advisor, Sir Liam Donaldson, announced plans for a minimum price on alcohol, which could see the end of cheap drinks in supermarkets, and is aimed at tackling alcohol abuse. He is the same advisor who recommended the smoking ban which started in July 2007.

Terry Orford, 52, landlord of the Painters Ash, in Dene Holm Road, Northfleet, said the plan might encourage drinkers back to pubs.

But despite the proposal which would see the majority of sensible drinkers punished, the government is expected to reject the advice.

Mr Orford said: In the last two years I have noticed a drop in trade. You can try and look at when it first started to get worse and say that it was the smoking ban, but I think really the economic climate is what has really had the most effect.

“The price of beer is also ridiculous now, and when you look at supermarkets charging such low prices for it, how can you compete. If the government does bring in this minimum charge for alcohol to stop the lower prices, it might help.

“But with the situation we are in at the moment, you just don’t know how much longer you are going to last in this trade.”

Mr Croucher added: “It is the cost of beer that hits pubs hard. We hear a lot about how cheap the price of alcohol in supermarkets is now. But I think one of the things that needs to be addressed now, turning the argument on its head, is the cost that some breweries are charging for their beer.

“I have seen before when you can buy a crate of 24 pints of Stella for not much more than £10. If you multiply that to make 80 pints, you are not going to be paying much more than £40. But a brewery will be selling that now for £100 plus VAT. It is a real problem.”

South East MEP Nigel Farage, who is leader of the UK Independence Party, says the government should do more to help the pub industry.

He said: “You talk to any landlord in the pub industry today, and you find out that they are all struggling.

“We need to cut the tax on beer, and we must stop supermarkets running these loss leader pricing policies.

“The smoking ban is another issue. Since it came in, pubs have been struggling, and we would like to see every pub with a smoking room, In Germany, they have brought in the smoking ban, but in three states, they have passed legislation for smoking rooms in pubs.”

“The loss of a pub is devastating to the community. It has always been and always will be, a place to go to talk and meet and get together. There has to be a place where people can have the right to go and smoke and go and drink after work.”

An HM Treasury spokesperson said: “The changes to alcohol duty announced in Budget 2008 will raise revenue that will be used to make further progress towards the Government’s target of halving child poverty on the way to eradicating it by 2020.

“As with all taxes, alcohol duty is kept under review by the Chancellor as part of the Budget process

To view the original article CLICK HERE

Many and varied are the reasons businesses go bust but rarely do they seem to be the fault of the owners if you talk with them – I claim no expertise in this field never having owned or run a business which failed. Luck I presume!

It is surprising that the reporter seems only to have interviewed the failed, the failing and drunks to garner his report – had he thought of interviewing impartial observers or perhaps commercial consultants – surely everyone has been aware for some years as pub prices and pub deals fell in value that the trade had largely failed – hence the ease with which a pub may be leased, bought or obtained and the number stand empty.

It seems to have escaped the perception of many that the clientele for pubs has shrunk – much of which is of the making of the pub chains and publicans themselves. In Chepstow there were at one time 117 licensed premises and today that is down to a struggling handfull as a result of installing TVs – seemingly for the staff! Ever louder music, seemingly for the neighbourhood! Serving drunks in a manner that would formerly never have been tollerated!

Many will recall when pubs had a public bar for smokers and those wishing for entertainment and a ‘snug’ or similar for those able to entertain themselves and frequently smoke free. To accomodate more people these pubs were tore out the walls put in polystyrene fake beams a TV and blaring music and all of a sudden pubs were run by braying fools whose bombast and bullying lost them their bedrock clients and they started to attract drifting ferral packs of binge drinkers – about then some publicans dreamed up the misconception that because they could boil food in a bag and fry the odd thing they were restauranters – after a series of errors most people left the pubs to the ferral drunks, bought a few bottles of wine and stayed at home or visited friends.

You may have noticed as you walk along the streets of your town the dirth of Off Licences as the supermarkets provide a cheaper more convenient range, no fresh veg & fruit merchants – the fishmonger has gone and there aren’t even archery shops or flint axe makers!

The world is changing and it does seem that publicans are slow learners, as of course are a vociferous few remaining mature habitues.

That said – Good luck to you Croucher and I trust you can find a job better suited to your abilities than those you have held in the last 10 years or so that I have known of your antics, and maybe for some 15 years prior for all I know.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#442* – EUkip’s Tom WISE & Lindsay JENKINS In COURT

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/04/2009


#442* – EUkip’s Tom WISE & Lindsay JENKINS In COURT

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

corruption of some of EUkip’s leaders & NEC is & what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip’s Tom WISE & Lindsay JENKINS In COURT & REMANDED ON COURT BAIL TO 8th. June!

Hi,

Having been charged last week:

British MEP charged with money laundering
Tuesday, April 21 04:32 pm

Print Story A British member of the European Parliament has been charged with false accounting and money laundering, the prosecutors’ office said. Skip related content
Related photos / videos A session in progress at the European Parliament in Strasbourg Enlarge photo Tom Wise, 60, a former UK Independence Party (UKIP) MEP who now sits as an independent, was investigated by police after claims made about his conduct in tabloid the News of the World four years ago.

His former researcher, Lindsay Jenkins, faces the same charges, which relate to the generous expenses received by MEPs.

“Following the publication of a news article in October 2005 relating to Mr Wise and Ms Jenkins, the European Anti-Fraud Office (OLAF) began an investigation into Mr Wise’s use of allowances,” said Derek Frame of the Crown Prosecution Service in a statement released Monday.

OLAF had passed the investigation to a economic crime unit with the English police, said Frame, reviewing lawyer of the CPS’ Special Crime Division.

“I received the full file on 20 March, 2009 and carefully reviewed the evidence before making this decision.”

Wise’s former party UKIP is a Eurosceptic party which feels too much power is being concentrated in Brussels at the expense of British sovereignty.

It withdrew European Parliament party voting rights from Wise in 2007 after it learned he was under investigation.

Party leader Nigel Farage said UKIP had acted swiftly to remove Wise.

“We dealt with Tom Wise ruthlessly, kicking him out of the group over two years ago,” said Farage.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

was investigated by police after claims made about his conduct in tabloid the News of the World four years ago.
This is clearly incorrect as the articles in question regarding criminality were in The Sunday Telegraph and subsequently in The Sunday Times and the articles were written by Daniel Foggo based on accurate research and factual information from various sources known to me and others.

It was after I spoke with Lindsay Jenkins for her permission that Daniel Foggo contacted her and interviewed her publishing only a small portion of the information she supplied.

Lindsay Jenkins’ dishonesty was made clear by various comments she made about me seeking to implicate me in her dishonesties and trying to fabricate stories of my involvement, which are easily debunked.

“We dealt with Tom Wise ruthlessly, kicking him out of the group over two years ago,” said Farage.
This also is a pure fabrication – a lie on the part of Nigel Farage, which was first aired as a lie on News Night and more recently to Andrew Neal on his ‘Straight Talking’ political interview.

Nigel Farage took absolutely no meaningful action against Tom Wise and was indubitably party to the collusion in his apparent criminality not only in that he used some of the stolen money to pay a personal debt but has never made any efforts to quosh the lies promoted, presumably by the dishonest and corrupted press office of the time, pretending that part of the money was to be paid to Petrina Holdsworth – seemingly to embroil her in the fraud and try to buy her silence.

Farage also claimed the money was set asde for payment to a metal broker or some such, over lunch one day. Also be minded that Farage & Knapman signed a document in collusion with Tom Wise seeking to present a personal spin, which is clearly posted on the internet.

Tom Wise remained a EUkip MEP until earlier this year and had been a EUkip Branch Chairman until he resigned the position in (as I recal) February, Tom Wise was not only sitting WITH EUkip in the EU Parliament but also took part in various of their childish japes and various video clips to promote EUkip to date!

Nigel Farage clearly lies most glibly as all will be aware that Tom Wise was a welcome member of the pro EU Ind.Dem.Group of which Farage was and is Chairman! Tom Wise sat with the Ind.Dem.Group along with other pro EU MEPs in EUkip and other parties – they formed the main group in favour of reform of the EU & realistically the only anti membership of The EU MEPs were those elected on a UKIP ticket – Rob Kilroy Silk & Ashley Mote who sat as independents and laterly Roger Knapman who had resigned in disgust at the betrayal of the electorate by Derek Clark, Farage and others.

Nigel Farage clearly lied to the presenter of NewsNight & Andrew Neale.

He undeniably lied to the public on public media – why are we not surprised?

Nigel Farage has done much to publicise the dishonesties and follies of the EU and the stupidity of remaining a member but sadly he has been such a catastrophic leader of EUkip, without ethics, morality, vision or integrity that he has merely acted as the best recruiting sargeant The BNP has ever had, with his dishonest and cowardly witch hunts in EUkip and his total lack of Officer Qualities.

Tom Wise resigned from the pro EU Ind.Dem.Group which Nigel Farage chaired on his own instigation on the Saturday prior to the exposure of his venal greed and stupidity in The News of The World, where he was fortunate his behaviour was heavily editted as a result of the debacle of the Max Mosley case!!!

Tom Wise remained a member of EUkip until March when his membership fees were due and it was only then that he stood down from EUkip and changed his status from being a EUkip MEP to being an Independent MEP – a move made on the statement that he was not intending to renew his membership as EUkip was no longer the party he had joined, nor did it have the same values.

Nigel Farage lied to the public when he pretended that either he or EUkip had taken ANY decisive or meaningfull action against Tom Wise.

In fact many will remember the strenuous and tortalegous efforts of his gofer Denny in weedling and wriggling and defaming decent individuals to orchestrate parts of the cover-up of Tom Wise’s criminality as exposed – including his insulting of numerous fellow officers of the party and members.

Douglas denny did all in his power to dishonestly suppress requests for a Disciplinary Hearing and has been lieing through his teeth ever since. He also voted on the NEC to suppress at least one enquiry, to cover up.

There were as far as I can work out at least five separate enquiries made in attempts to hush up the situation – the most odious of which was the enquiry made on the instruction and payment of Roger Knapman for Trevor Colman.

It would seem that Trevor Colman was USED to give a spurious air of honesty and credibility to the enquiry since he was a retired senior Police Officer – sadly he turned out to be nothing more nor less than another bent copper and colluded in the cover-up failing to acquit his duty as a citizen let alone one of some supposed merit! As soon as Trevor Colman became aware that apparent criminality had taken place it was his unarguable duty to openly state so and NOT collude in the corruption.

That people without moral compass may have colluded in cover-up, and when you consider Knapman’s family were at the time running a people traffiking business in direct moral opposition to his elected office and at the cost of British jobs it is hardly surprising such a man may not have understood his duty but that Trevor Colman sank so low as to befoul his Queen’s Commission speaks volumes of the man’s lack of integrity and callibre.

The damage done to UKIP by Trevor Colman’s abrogation of his duty is at the root of much of the problems of EUkip today – had he done his duty Tom Wise and Linsay Jenkins would have been brought to book in 2005 and the party would not be in the parlous state it currently is – ever the moral coward you will note Farage’s finger prints all over this issue but it is only his lies that are irrefutable.

I have noted the various lies of Douglas Denny on this issue on EUkipForum recently where he is conveniently presenting his dishonest revisionist account to try to paint out the fact that it was he who advocated no further action by Trevor Colman when Piers Merchant presented Colman’s lame account.

It will be remembered by the honest members present that the matter turned upon the investigation of further cheques and Roger Knapman duplicitously used the fact that the payments office was investigating – as I clearly recal it was Suchorzewski who said that was no excuse for EUkip to halt their enquiry and investigation of the cheques – Knapman presented a fudge backed by Douglas Denny whereby it was agreed on Douglas Denny’s motion that Sir Richard Body be asked to investigate the cheques in detail REGARDLESS of the outcome of the EU’s enquiry – this motion was accepted and carried.

Subsequently it will be remembered by those not seeking to present themselves in a good light that Roger Knapman announced that The EU Payments Office had written saying they had exhonerated Tom Wise. This was a lie as the letter stated that they did not intend to take further action themselves at this time.

Roger Knapman had lied but that is unsurprising as he habitually lies as with his lies with Mark Croucher when they presented a totally dishonest pack of lies to the Press Complaints Council when Knapman had been exposed promoting the family people traffiking business and using Polish labour as they were cheaper than local tradesmen.

Part of the reason EUkip garnered so little good publicity in the mainstream press at that time would seem to be that many in the press knew Mark Croucher to be unprofessional, dishonest and untrustworthy – thus the only good publicity seemed to be in little local press with childish and far from relevant stunts. It was around this time that Farage & Croucher were stupid enough to be duped and unprofessional enough not to check references and they hired the Tory plant Stephen Sobey based on a raft of lies misrepresenting his identity – much as Bannerman did.

To move on you will note that after Knapman had come out with this dishonest drivel Suchorzewski reminded the NEC that Denny had put forward a motion that was carried that Dick Body would investigate the cheques regardless of the EU enquiry however at that juncture Denny spoke out to protect Wise and Jenkins by making a strenuous case for accepting the EU letter as judgement without even seeing it and withdraw the request for Dick Body.

It is my belief that Knapman never even consulted Dick Body and as those in The Lechlade Group will appreciate Sir Richard was no longer ‘able’ to conduct such an enquiry sadly.

Thus we know that Roger Knapman LIED
Douglas Denny has LIED in his revisionist self serving fantasies.
Nigel Farage LIED in that he did NOTHING consequential about Wise.

Trevor Colman acted dishonerably and dishonestly in abuse of his position and in abrogation of his duty.

There is clearly a far greater list of dishonesty – however I was pleased to note although inaccurate in some detail Anthony Butcher has largely presented the truth on this matter despite his normal lack of ethics.

TODAY
In Court

I am given to understand that today at The City of Westminster magistrates’ Court in Horseferry Road:

Tom Wise and Lindsay Jenkins surrendered to bail and were arrested to face the charges made last week by the Police.

Lindsay Jenkins & Tom Wise were charged in the terms as provided by Associated Press (article above) and for those who received the Police Press release and cover letter (as did I) the charges are initially as listed.

The Magistrate presented the Charges and proceded with arraignment – the outcome being:

Tom Wise & Lindsay Jenkins are once more bailed but this time it is not Police bail but Court bail and conditional. They are to represent at City of Westminster Court on 08-Jun-2009 for Commital to Crown Court for trial before a Jury.

To speculate – that would indicate a likely trial date of end September beginning of October.

We shall see.

I am interested to note that Nigel farage apparently debarred Tom Wise from standing as a prospective MEP candidate as he was ‘under investigation by OLAF’ – Does that mean he will also be debarring Derek Clark at the last moment as he is under investigation also?

Am I not right in saying that none of the enquiries by OLAF regarding Farage have yet reported – does that debarr him also or is there some strange self invented integrity being selectively applied by the corrupt EUkip?

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#441* – EUkip’s LONDON FARCE & FIASCO

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/04/2009


#441* – EUkip’s LONDON FARCE & FIASCO

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip’s LONDON FARCE & FIASCO – DOES FARAGE READ GOETHE?

Hi,

with the 28th. April supposedly the day for the presentation of lists and their registration for MEP candidates, it is interesting to note that there has been no official notification that they have managed to oust Ralph Atkinson in the London Region yet!

They have tried very hard, which strikes me as a total waste of energy as even Gerard Batten, currently their lead candidate, has said to various people that he expects to loose his seat to The BNP in London and has even admitted that if he lived in various London areas he would vote for The BNP himself!

Perhaps he knows something we don’t and when it comes to Registering the candidates Farage and his corrupt cronies will conveniently overlook various people! Do not forget that Farage and his accolytes have scant regard for the rules, less for integrity and are without understanding of fundamental morality.

We hear that it is Farage’s intention to parachute in – as Junius put it ‘a drinking buddy’ – few realised that this was to be the odious and dishonest low life the failed press officer, failed publican and close associate of the extremist organisation ‘Spotlight’.

The rumours of this are rife in Brussels however Gerard Batten is not alone in finding this unbelievable, despite the weight of comment and tittle tattle.

We are well aware just howmuch hold Croucher has over Farage and has he has openly said ‘he knows where the bodies are buried’ – then of course there is the video Croucher has openly boasted of having in which he recorded Annabell Fuller graphically describing her sexual antics with Farage on numerous occasions in numerous ‘locations’ and how Farage had mistreated her.

Personally, although the rumours of this material are common knowledge, I do not believe that Croucher holds the material it is like so much about him merely malicious and for personal gain – which seems to have paid off.

Many who know me are well aware that I have supported and promoted the aims and values of UKIP for a dozen years or more – they will also be aware that I supported Nigel Faragehaving stated that he had my full support as a performer, spokesman, media personality and rabble rouser but that he could count on my implacable opposition if he ever stood for or became leader.

It was over 10 years ago that I openly stated that Farage had been the making of UKIP but that he would destroy it if he was ever allowed to become leader – how right I was.

To this day I support the aims and principles of UKIP but sadly as predicted, with Farage as leader, it has no aims beyond getting him and IF POSSIBLE a few cronies elected, it no longer has principles hence the failure to hold a disciplinary hearing to permit Tom Wise to clear his name or establish his guilt and be removed from the party.

At the very heart of much of the corruption that has resulted in the befouled and debased EUkip of today have been Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny (who you will remember was removed as returning officer by a vote of the NEC for his lies and dishonesty), Derek Clark (with his betrayal of members and the electorate), Gerard Batten (with his lack of understanding of integrity or justice), Malcolm Wood (with his willingness to lie and cheat to maintain his income), Trevor Colman (with his collusion in the cover-up of the criminality, as charged, of Tom Wise & Lindsay Jenkins & his total abrogation of duty as a retired senior police officer – he proved to be just another bent copper!) The list of scum that has floated to the top of the septic tank of Farage’s making is legion and predictable.

Even so it is hard to believe that even someone with so few leadership skills, such a lack of morality, without ethics and as incompetent and duplicitous as Nigel Farage would be so unutterably stupid and so contemptuous of the members as to parachute in Mark Croucher.

It is more in hope than expectation that Farage would not be so stupid after watching his childish and incompetent antics recently aligning with The BNP by using the same advertising campaign base (WWII & Churchill!!!) and his endless fabrication of BNP fantasy stories as he lurches to the extreme right wing with fascist style centralisation of power and the authoritarian buillying and shaven headed chavvery of The BNP. I note he now effects an over large hat to grow into setting an example to bis bully boys as Griffin instructed his to wear hats to hide their shaven heads and knuckle dragging appearance.

Farage had so much to offer EUroRealism it is sad that he was so weak and insecure that he gathered trash around him to prop him up – so bereft of Officer Quality that he has feared those with ability – he had every opportunity to lead his life AND act as a valuable spokesman for EUroRealism but you only have to ask your contacts in The EU (if you have any!) and you soon realise that under his control EUkip are now seen as useful idiots and just a part of the system.

Would that Farage had had the maturity and judgement to have done what he was good at and done it well rather than fear exposure of his frailties and incompetence by dishonestly and corruptly, based on lies, deceit, bullying and other people’s money befouling the EUroSceptic movement by seizing leadership in a coup without an honest election. The end of the party has just been a matter of time since.

No single group of people have done so very much to aid The EU as EUkip controlled by Farage a group which has woken many with Farage’s media performances but from lack of leadership, professionalism, competence or ability he has driven 10s of 1,000s of otherwise decent British voters into the arms of the vile BNP.

Well done EUkip you should be ashamed of your EVERY step to destruction.

Even so – despite the idiocy of Farage in selecting the liar, serial Tory failure and cheat Bannerman and ignoring his own members in overturning the verdict of his members and the SW committee to reinstate the dishonest and corrupt self indulgent pervert Gawain Towler, not for his perversions in as far as they are legal but for his sordifd lack of judgement why would the electorate have any interest either in his wife’s play school attempts at art or his sordid sex life?

Farage’s leadership has been one long series of catastrophies – not least of which has been his personal collusion in the criminal behaviour of Tom Wise as charged and his abject failure to do ANTHING about it to protect the Party or the EUroSceptic movement – then Farage’s staggering arrogance that he lied blatantly on Newsnight and compounded the lies on Andrew Neale’s programme – any decent party would have susppended him for such public dishonesty in the name of their party.

EUkip however takes no action as under his control it is without ethics, vision, morality or integrity.

Ferretts fighting in a sack as they squeel and squabble to get their snouts in the trough for another 5 years of irrelevance helping The EU committees strengthen their controls over vassal states and supporting greater subsidiarity of our once proud people to the control of The vile centralised EU that Farage and his corrupt cronies revel in.

Let us hope that now that the plan to parachute in Farage’s drinking buddy has been exposed perhaps reason will prevail and he will act responsibly for a change.

Many will recal that it was the intention of Farage and his cronies to test the water by fielding a candidate as ‘Libertas’ –

REDBRIDGE COUNCIL
Wanstead Ward
Thursday 23rd April 2009

Alex WILSON (Conservative) 1300

Kate GARRETT (Lib-Dem) 1030

Ross HATFULL (Labour) 894

Ashley GUNSTOCK (Green) 296

John EVANS (BNP) 171

Nick JONES (UKIP) 33

Thus for each vote EUkip gained 112 voters voted against them – FIVE WEEKS BEFORE the EU elections!

I wonder how they would have done if they had actually done as they initially intended and stood their candidate in Bridget Rowe’s Libertas UK Party – or whatever her deliberate spoiler is called. Farage’s aim was to test brand recognition of Libertas through the Party they set up out of spite to try to damage Declan Ganley – seemingly because he dismissed EUkip as a spent force.

It seems they only reverted to fielding a candidate as EUkip and NOT Libertas to try to prove Junius wrong as he had leaked the facts before they could be announced by EUkip aka Libertas UK & Bridget Rowe.

For the original of these details CLICK HERE

Let us hope the effect of Junius publishing the details of the Croucher plot will have the same effect and it will be dropped to try to prove Junius wrong (that failed last time since too many knew the truth – this time many will be so disgusted at the thought of Croucher and his dishonesty that they may believe that Junius was wrong as even Farage could not be so stupid!) Oh Yes He Could – He Is! Hence the mess EUkip is in with no visible candidate of competence, stature, repute or seemingly ability in the first 3 places on a single EUkip list so far.

Farage has destroyed UKIP and every EUkip MEP returned is another nail in the coffin of our Country as with EUkip MEPs and all those votes recruited by EUkip for the BNP Britain will be more firmly locked into the catastrophic EU and one step closer to the wars of disassociation and the famine that is inevitable in Europe with the EU in control – a famine that could kill 200,000,000 people due to EU greed, arrogance and incompetence.

EUkip’s abrogation of duty, lack of leadership and failure of morality will be no less responsible as they push voters into the arms of the vile BNP than will be Ted Heath in his betrayal – there is every reason to believe that Ted Heath was so stupid that in keeping with many of the grandees of politics at the time and a number of his predecessors who fashionably believesed the concepts of ‘internationalism’ as promoted by the odious Fabians and many accademics of the time.

Farage and his cronies have spoken out, to get elected, showing they know the dangers yet have gone native colluded in crime, colluded in EU control of Britain, recruiting for The BNP, damaging the EUroSceptic movement with their dishonesty, bullying and childish behaviour.

80% of the British people apparently, by survey, wish to leave the political EUropean supra national state yet EUkip has so befouled the territort that they managed 33 votes (1 in every 112 who voted!) in the most recent election! 80% should have been around 3,000 votes!

Well let us see what claque of low life’s Farage lists as candidates for his Party in fear of anyone competent with ability – listing/registration commences tomorrow 28th. April however the final date for ammending the list is 07-May-2009

The time it took Bruce Lawson to get his web site going I guess we can expect him to remember to list UKFirstParty candidates on Thursday May 14th. a week late! At least their problems seem to be based on Bruce Lawson’s arrogant stupidity served with a side portion of Peter Cole’s insecurity and the chips he seems to have shouldered and as yet I see no signs of the dishonesty and corruption, bullying and abuse that are endemic in EUkip.

at least UKFirstParty clearly have no connection with extremist organisations like Spotlight, The BNP or racism.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#440* – THE FASCISM OF CENTRAL POWER!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/04/2009

#440* – THE FASCISM OF CENTRAL POWER!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

THE FASCISM OF CENTRAL POWER AS FARAGE IMPOSES AUTHORITARIAN EXTREME BNP STYLE CONTROL ON EUkip !!

Question: What happens when Nigel Farage and Paul Nuttall lose a vote?

Answer: Ignore the result and carry on regardless!

My readers may recall that Farage and Nuttall’s attempt to give the Chairman dictatorial powers failed to gain enough votes from members for it to become part of UKIP’s amended constitution.

But as you would expect Farage and Nuttall were not going to be deterred by a few misguided members who had voted against the wishes of the mighty Fuhrer.

Farage and Nuttall simply decided to ignore the result.

Over the last month Paul Nuttall has been busily sending out letters to various UKIPPERS.

In these letters they have been told that they must confirm that they are not members of UK First which is – according to UKIP’s NEC – a proscribed organisation.

Mr Nuttall has kindly added that they must reply by the 28th of April. Failure to do so will result in immediate expulsion from UKIP.

Oh, the joys of being in UKIP.

And they say the EU is undemocratic!

Here is Bruce Lawson’s response:

17th April, 2009

Dear Member,

You have already been advised of our A.G.M. on the 23rd April at the Montgomery Institute at 7.30 p.m. – appropriately St. George’s Day. Although I will be at the meeting it will be for the last time as Chairman or member. I resigned from UKIP on the 10th April.

I was unhappy with the style of leadership and financial management of the Party when resigning as National Treasurer in October 2007. Since then the Party has become more undemocratic, seeming only to serve to put its leader on television and to secure his re-election as an MEP for a further five years on the Brussels Gravy Train.

In February, after a UKIP mailshot re rule changes, you are probably aware that some leading figures contributed to a countering letter at a cost of some £2,000. Consequently the changes proposed to Rule 14, which would have given the Party Chairman ALONE the right to expel dissidents from the party without redress, were defeated by 2,102 members voting against, 3,393 voting for – UKIP, therefore, failing to obtain the necessary two-thirds majority.

Subject to this, on the 2nd March, the democratic (!) UKIP N.E.C. decided to treat United Kingdom First members as PROSCRIBED, and wrote letters to two former Treasurers, including myself, and one long-standing NEC member, Delroy Young, asking them to effectively leave the party thus showing their true democratic colours.

It’s sad when things get so bad, but I and many others believe that forming a new party is the only way forward. We will not be opposing UKIP in Wales in the June Euro Elections, but immediately thereafter will begin to build again from a base of honesty, transparency and democracy.

My thanks to all of you who have supported the Branch and voted for me in the Welsh Assembly Election in 2007 (to achieve the second best result ever in Wales). I would also like to thank David Rowlands, who you are very lucky to have in Montgomeryshire. Good luck to you all in the future.

Yours sincerely,

Bruce Lawson

To view the original article & letter CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#439* – EUkip ON TARGET for JUNE 4th.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/04/2009


#439* – EUkip ON TARGET for JUNE 4th.

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip ON TARGET for JUNE 4th. AS THEIR BNP STYLE CHURCHILL CAMPAIGN CUTS IN!

I wonder which sickos voted for a party that blows the arms off Iraqi kids, voted for crimes against humanity, supported the war crimes of Blair and singles out the English for death by cancer, seeking to set up false QUANGOs to delay providing essential drugs!

They make Aleister Crowley and Count Vlad seem normal.

Clearly they are 27 times as popular as EUkip who are 1 39th. as popular as The Tories.

It seems EUkip is hemorrhaging votes to The BNP who are 9 times as popular.

This does not bode well for EUkip and shows just how staggeringly incompetent Nigel Farage has proved to be as a leader – however he has promised to resign when he gets 10 or less MEPs elected on June 4th.

Clearly he will leave EUkip having shown just how damaging he has been and having ranted and railed at Kilroy Silk & Ashley Mote for not returning their seats to EUkip, just as he did with Dame Hookey for hanging onto the EU Council’s seats in the London Ass. Obviously Farage will stand down as an MEP handing his seat to the untrustworthy, dishonest and discredited political prostitute Marta Andreassen – so a vote for EUkip in the South East is in fact a vote for Marta Andreassen and if you are dishonest enough to vote for the other odious candidates like the bent copper Trevor Colman who colluded in the criminal behaviour for which Tom Wise and Lindsay Jenkins have been charged.

Or perhaps you are more suited by the liar and fraud David Bannerman a serial failure from the Tory party – it is not a matter of whether he is or is not illegitimate or in what context he is related to a relatively irrelevant politician over a Century ago – it is that he is a liar and a cheat and used his self styled claims to fraudulently make personal and potentially pecuniary gains. His ancestors are of absolutely no significance but the fact that he lied and can not be trusted speaks volumes.

You will remember Stephen Sobey was fired when it was discovered he had lied about his ancestry – why has David Bannerman not been dumped back in the gutter from whence he came now that he has been exposed as a liar and a cheat?

Similarly many of the homophobic members of EUkip leap to defend the odious Gawain Towler assuming he is being criticised for his chosen perversions – clearly there has been no effort to castigate him on my part for his perversions which are legal, though I believe he should be brought to law based on the substance of his wife’s claims of his pederasty if it can be substantiated and it is the duty of the police to investigate the practice of illegal perversions as claimed by his wife on her web site.

It is not a matter of his legal sexual perversions that are in question it is his tasteless lack of judgement that leads him to believe that when seeking to represent the electorate it is appropriate to publish details of his perverse sex life and contempt for the laws and undertakings of marriage.

Just as surely none but the morally bankrupt would vote for a liar and bully like Paul Nuttall who has been all too willing to lie to protect his position and to threaten the weak – also note his willingness to take advantage of Farage’s corruption in the dishonest removal of Gregg Beaman, which is well documented, merely to elevate this particular low life on the lists!

Many will recal that although neither Farage nor EUkip, its NEC or its officers ever removed Tom Wise from EUkip – however they did inform him that he would not be permitted to stand as a prospective candidate on 4th. June 2009 as he was under investigation by OLAF.

If this naturally debarrs a candidate then surely Derek Clark is inelligible to stand and I understand that Farage is also under investigation on various counts!

So how does this work? You are debarred if under investigation by OLAF and your name begins with ‘W’. Do also bear in mind as a candidate Andrew Smith must surely be considered inelligible as his dishonesty and shoddy accounting practices led to EUkip being found guilty in a Court of law and the matter is still likely to cost EUkip £500,000 or more in forfeiture and costs – yet he is still standing with the duplicitous Stuart Agnew and the liar and cheat Mick McGough.

Clearly Andrew Smith is unfit as a candidate but is he still standing because it would prove a dangerous precedent for Farage as he too lied and cheated and is equally as responsible for the Guilty verdict. Further had Farage fired Tom Wise he may have found himself inelligible as a candidate as he used money which it seems clear from media and charges was stolen by Tom Wise and Lindsay Jenkins to settle one of his personal debts, thus he is undeniably embroilled in such criminality as Tom Wise may eventually be found guilty.

Let us return to consideration of the recent by-election

Wanstead has been described as “a fairly leafy, middle class ward
with something of a Guardianista contingent”.

It is the word ‘Guardianista‘ that is something of a giveaway as it accounts for many of the Labour votes which would have constituted votes from the Labour salary block – the corrupt members of corrupted bodies like The BBC, QUANGOcracy and the rest of the Kleptocracy Labour have enpowered.

The results were:

REDBRIDGE COUNCIL
Wanstead Ward
Thursday 23rd April 2009

Alex WILSON (Conservative) 1300

Kate GARRETT (Lib-Dem) 1030

Ross HATFULL (Labour) 894

Ashley GUNSTOCK (Green) 296

John EVANS (BNP) 171

Nick JONES (UKIP) 33

Thus for each vote EUkip gained 112 voters voted against them – FIVE WEEKS BEFORE the EU elections!

I wonder how they would have done if they had actually done as they initially intended and stood their candidate in Bridget Rowe’s Libertas UK Party – or whatever her deliberate spoiler is called. Farage’s aim was to test brand recognition of Libertas through the Party they set up out of spite to try to damage Declan Ganley – seemingly because he dismissed EUkip as a spent force.

It seems they only reverted to fielding a candidate as EUkip and NOT Libertas to try to prove Junius wrong as he had leaked the facts before they could be announced by EUkip aka Libertas UK & Bridget Rowe.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#438* – MUSINGS ON THE BUDGET

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/04/2009


#438* – MUSINGS ON THE BUDGET

“In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.”
Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

MUSINGS ON THE BUDGET
by an associate blogger

Thursday, April 23, 2009

Musings at Yesterday’s Budget

Well its 02.00 on Thursday 23rd April and a quick check of all of the UK political websites show the individual Political Parties response to Darling’s Budget – all except UKIP.

Even the BNP have issued its views and yet UKIP (the ‘Third/Fourth Force’ in British politics) says nothing – O well, perhaps they are waiting for Nigel to get out of the pub to give his percieved wisdom – after all, its still early isn’t it?

Well, we have just a few comments to make, and perhaps UKIP can copy them to save them making it up on their own:

1. Total government debt will double to 79% of GDP by 2013 – the highest level since the Second World War. The annual budget deficit will rise sharply to £175bn for the next two years

Assuming Darling’s figures are correct (and they haven’t been so far) we can see considerable devaluation of the £, hyper-inflation in a couple of years and much higher taxation levels than currently experienced.

New World Order Consipracy Advocates will see this as a deliberate attempt to ruin the currency and economy, with a view to the development of a single World Currency, Bank and Government – who knows?

2. A new 50p tax rate for earnings over £150,000.

This is just a token gesture – it will bring in a pittance – but Brown believes will obtain good headlines – as even the wealthy will pay.

Wrong, most will be able to avoid this via clever accounting techniques, but worse still, Brown has broken a General Election Pledge – not to raise Direct Taxation. This, coupled with the false promise for a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, means that election pledges mean nothing – Yes that will certainly instill confidence in our Political system.

3. Fuel duty will increase by 2p per litre in September and then by 1p a litre above inflation each April for the next four years.

The further development of a ‘carbon tax’ protecting our environment. Most informed individuals do not believe this ‘global warming’ scam, but nevertheless, we will all have to pay for it – roll on the electric/solar car. The problem is, while oil is only $50 a barrel, Brown can get away with it. What happens if it rises to $150 + again?

4. Mr Darling confirmed the economy would shrink by 3.5% in 2009, with a forecast of 1.25% growth next year rising to 3.5% in 2011.

Well, we may agree with the first figure, but the rest is fantasy land. Unemployment will continue to rise for at least 12 months. Manufacturing hardly exists, unless it is heavily subsidised, and the City is in turmoil. It certainly suits Labour to suggest that the economy will improve once the General Election is over, as it provides promise before hand, and should the Conservatives win, not achieving these figures, will be blamed on them – quite simple really.

There is more to add, but the BBC and Press will cover most of the points. We feel, that while in the short-term, the borrowing will alleviate some of the worst effects of the Depression, it will cause considerable pain for the UK Economy for the next 5 – 10 years (if not longer). There are hard times ahead and we do not believe there is one Political Party currently in the UK that is able, or sufficiently competent to deal with, the disaster, this Labour Government has considerably contributed to, if not caused.

It’s 02.20 and still no comment from UKIP – must be a ‘sit-in’.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#437* – A JR & The STATE of PLAY IN MATTERS WEST!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/04/2009

#000* – HERE IS A TEMPLATE SHORT INDEX TITLE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

A Judicial Review & The STATE of PLAY With Regard To LEGAL MATTERS IN RELATION To John WEST & His Wife!!

Hi,

JUDICIAL REVIEW & The Scum on what was UKIPForum

Bob FM on The UKIPForum (now renamed) is in the habit of bombastically and aggressively making a fool of himself and misrepresenting information in support of corruption, his own best interests and the discredited EUkip – like a small child given the support of an adult he ill manneredly and oaffishyly insults all and sundry yet when challenged – like a coward fails to address the facts.

He seems very brave in his libels and abuse of myself which is hardly surprising because as a coward he is aware that the dishonest and corrupt Brendan Padmore and Anthony Butcher have both shown they are untrustworthy, unprincipled and dishonest on a repetitive basis and have dishonestly removed me from their forum based on my statements of fact.

Seemingly facts with provenance and or substantiation are not permitted when they expose their dishonesty – yet they provide a platform for my denigration, and the abuse of any who wish to misrepresent information to my detriment.

Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore are beneath contempt as they provide a near unchallenged platform for serial liars, dissemblers and those seeking to mislead and defame based upon distortion – one has to wonder which are the worse, filth like Douglas Denny, Paul Nuttall, Mark Croucher and their ilk, fools like Bob FM or the fundamental lack of integrity or comprehension of morality and ethics of low lifes like Padmore & Butcher aiding the liars and cheats.

Bob has today stated:

>>A Judicial Review is an examination of a Public body that derives it’s power by statute. There are civil court redresses for most things, they fall outside of the scope of a JR. There may well be civil remedies available against UKIP, but so far all we have heard of and is continually referred to by the West camp is a JR. I have maintained from the outset, mainly because I have been involved in one and researched it in detail that UKIP simply cannot be subject to one. I think Mr West knows that which is why he will not answer the direct question.<<

I take the liberty of pointing out, since he has been so serially offensive on this matter, that Bob Feel-Martinis is in fact WRONG – he has been wrong repeatedly and has been offensive in his ill mannered assertions of his self proclaimed wisdom. Judge Bazley White stated VERY CLEARLY that he felt that the application to his small claims court by both Mr. West and Mrs. West were inappropriate for his Court and implied that the requirement of adjudgement of internal process of an organisation was beyond his remit.

At no time did he or any other party imply or intimate, state or write that there was any abuse of due process or his Court. Judge Bazley White clearly stated AS A JUDGE on official Court correspondence that the more appropriate course of action would be a Judicial Review of the process or reallocation of the case to The County Court system in the locale of the defendant.

The documents were posted to aid on my blog http://CaterpillarsAndButterflies.BlogSpot.com some time ago – sadly Bob FM and others assumed that I would sink to their level and lie about such a matter and were provided with a platform to make such claims against myself, John West, Geoffrey Collier and others by the dishonesty of Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore and it would seem the turncoat Tom something or other (formerly claiming to be liberal!) is all too happy to conjoin in the dishonesty.

The allocation hearing was held before another Judge who upheld the suggestions advocated by Judge Bazley White and left the matter in the hands of John West and his wife Allison, having joined the two cases. The distortions and lies of the common Croucher on this matter as posted on The Forum and upheld by Anthony Butcher and Brendan Padmore were flagrant lies and a direct contempt of Court.

I was party to the discussions with John West’s Solicitors and subsequently to the conference with a QC of Matrix Chambers. May I assure one and all that a Judicial Review is a possibility however I believe it would be unwise for John West to proceed on that course of action as although the costs are covered for a hearing at The High Courts and although the evidence is clearly in John West’s favour the risks outweigh the value of the gain.

There is absolutely no doubt that EUkip can be brought before a JR in the view of the Two Judges and the QC concerned nor the Solicitors – though I concur the reticence of advising John West to take such a course of action as it may prove that Justice is reflected in a truelly EU style as that which one can afford! Clearly EUkip would be only too willing to act as they have in the past, in flagrant disregard for the financial well being of the members.

Sadly EUkip is far more likely to spend 10s of £1,000s of members money rather than act honourably towards the Wests and others whom they have swindled. I have stepped into this matter in my independent position and have done so to save John West or his wife seeking to address the serial dishonesty on The Forum as although I am sure he would be willing to answer the duplicity of some on The Forum may lead him to prejudice his position in ongoing matters regarding EUkip and various of its personnel currently and claimed formerly.

Although John West offered to respond on The Forum I have advised him against so doing, as it is so corrupted by the dishonesty of its owner, certain of its moderators and numerous of its members who lack any code of ethics.

Obviously John West will make his own decisions but would be wise to avoid the abusive behaviour of responding to the dishonest participants on The Forum who based on previous experience can count on the dishonesty of the Forum owner and some of his moderators to protect the liars and the cheats like McGough, Denny, Martinias, Crouicher and similar who have shown themselves consistently to be dishonest and do UKIP such harm for their personal gain.

They have lost all credibility and dragged UKIP into the gutter of their lives. Clearly I am willing to put this matter in the public domain in my own name and am willing publicly to answer any questions I deem relevant – those who regularly read my material will appreciate I try to give as clear a position as possible without misleading people – I leave the dishonesty and corruption to EUkip, its leadership and its supporters who have a proven track record for such behaviour.

To be specific on the matter of Judicial Review I am reliably advised that Derry Irvine when Lord Chancellor against the wishes of the Government broadened the basis of those who fell subject to JR as it was felt that it should be all who functioned by statute from the public purse at the tax payers expense thus including both Political Parties and much of the kleptocratic QUANGOcracy set up as a salary vote by New Labour – my words not those of ‘silk’!

If I can be of further assistance please do not hesitate to call me and I will try to clarify any questions you may have.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

John West:
A statement regarding my legal actions against UKIP.
—————————————————————–
Here is the promised statement.

Following discussions with my legal team I have decided not to make any further public statements regarding these matters.

The Judicial Review.

On 17th February my wife and I took the UK Independence Party to the small claims court.

This concerned the return of our £500 (£250 each) candidate deposits.

It was heard by District Judge McLoughlin and not District Judge Bazley White as claimed by a certain blog and Mark Croucher. J. Arnott and P.Reeve were representing UKIP.

Neither spoke during the proceedings.
There was no one else present.
The Judge said that there appeared to be evidence of ‘malpractice and misadministration’ during UKIP’s MEP selection process.

However, he went on to explain that this matter could not be dealt with by the small claims court as it did not come within their remit.

He recommended that we contact a solicitor with a view to getting a JR against UKIP. At no time did he use the words attributed to him by Bob Feal-Martinez and Mark Croucher. We did as he advised.

Our solicitor has been in contact with a QC who has advised that a JR is a possibility.

The QC said “the core issues for a JR, if it could be pursued, would be UKIP’s selection of candidates and than a complete failure by UKIP to follow up the report of Mr Merchant and not re-opening the selection process”.

I am now looking into raising the necessary finances for a JR.

You Tube.

I am happy to confirm that I will be taking UKIP and one of their associates to court over the leaking of my MEP interview.

I will be serving the papers next week. Peter Reeve. My complaint against Peter Reeve is now with the CPS.

Michael Zuckerman & Jeffrey Titford.

I have made two complaints to the Law Society about Michael Zuckerman.

These complaints concern attempted witness intimidation and using mental illness as a term of abuse.

The complaints are ongoing.

I have made a complaint to the Police about Jeffrey Titford’s involvement in attempted witness intimidation.

The complaint is ongoing.

OLAF is ‘evaluating’ Jeffrey Titford’s police file.

I have been told by OLAF not to expect a decision on Mr Titford until after June.

Data Protection.

My complaint against UKIP over their refusal to comply with Section 7 of the DPA is still ongoing.

My other complaint against UKIP concerns the leaking of MEP video interview.

Mark Croucher and a certain blog (said to be connected to him ) allege that my complaint has been dismissed and UKIP exonerated.

This is a lie.

That M. Croucher can make fun of an incident that has forever disgraced the current leadership of UKIP tells you all you need to know about his morals and integrity.

UKIP contacted the ICO and claimed that Annabelle Fuller’ computer was left in a taxi.

Both she and UKIP’s leadership continue to deny any responsibility for the leak.

UKIP’s leadership still continue to refuse to apologise for the leak. The ICO has contacted me and has said “We will be writing to UKIP to raise our concerns over this incident with them and remind them of their obligations under the Act”.

End of statement.

I would contend there is nothing more to be said on this matter unless John West seeks to lift his own silence – that of course is unlikely to preclude the liars, dissemblers and outrigh cowardly members who are known for their dishonesty on The Forum to seek to take advantage of the silence to pretend to knowledge they lack.

It will be interesting to see to what depths Mark Croucher will sink in publication of material he can only have received in breech of confidence from EUkip.

One wonders if EUkip were elected would they seek to Govern by cowardly leaks and bullying eMail as they have acted thus when without authority!

How very like The BNP EUkip has become as Farage drags the party kicking and screaming back to his future as an extremist right wing Thatcherite and authoritarian party with centralised control vested in the hands of a self selected few.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!.

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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