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#0745* – Marine LePEN & Godfrey BLOOM’s Relationship exposed

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/02/2012

#0745* – Marine LePEN & Godfrey BLOOM’s Relationship exposed
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Marine LePEN President of The National Front in France & Godfrey BLOOM’s Inappropriate Relationship exposed!!

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Marine LePEN & Godfrey BLOOM’s Relationship exposed

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Hi,

my thanks to Barbara Booker for her, as ever, faultless research – It would seem that Marine LePen is now something of a mover and shaker in Godfrey Bloom’s extremist EU Political Party grouping!

Strange when one considers the irrefutable FACT that UKIP members unequivocally voted against UKIP being a part of such EU Groupings but I guess it is fair to say ‘since when did UKIP leadership give a damn about democracy integrity or the members’!

1) Marine Le Pen – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (updated 9.2.2012)
Scroll down almost half way to International Politics Europe, last paragraph:

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In October 2011, after her resignation from the Alliance of European National Movements (AENM), she joined the European Alliance for Freedom (EAF), a Pan-European sovereignist platform created late 2010.[227]
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2) National Front (France) – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (updated 9.2.2012)
Scroll half way down to International Relations, last paragraph:

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Marine Le Pen as new president of the Front National joined the European Alliance for Freedom in October 2011[152]. A pan-European sovereignist platform founded late 2010 and recognized by the European Parliament. The EAF has individual members linked to the Austrian Freedom Party of Heinz-Christian Strache, the British UKIP of Nigel Farage, and other movements such as the Sweden democrats, Vlaams Belang (Belgian flanders) and from Malta, Germany (Burger in wut), Slovakia (SNS), etc.
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3) Protests at Austria far-right ball as Holocaust remembered | euronews, world news

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Heinz-Christian Strache of the Freedom Party of Austria (FPO) had invited others who fall under the umbrella of the eurosceptic European Alliance for Freedom, such as French National Front leader and presidential candidate Marine Le Pen.
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4) Marine Le Pen guest of honour at the 31.1.2012

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Marine Le Pen, candidate of the National Front for the presidential election, was in Vienna following the invitation of the leader of the far-right party FPÖ, Heinz-Christian Strache, under the banner of the European Alliance for Freedom (EAF) which unites far-right populist factions of Europe.
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5) Bernard-Henri Lévy: Madame Le Pen and Austrians Nostalgic for the Third Reich 1.2.2012

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And while she was at it, Mme La Pen took the occasion, during a “working meeting,” to encounter again her partners of the European Alliance for Freedom,
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#0490* – UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/05/2011

#0490* – UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!
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UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!

The endless use of UKIP affiliates who are proven liars and low lifes who abuse and defame members and supporters of UKIP who seek honesty, integrity, morality, transparency and probity to once more ressurecy UKIP and render it fit for purpose – Leaves them without credible defence when the truth leaks out!!

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in the light of the habitual lies of both Skeptyk and also of Mick McGough which have been proven time and again, and in that they are in the habit of abusing any supporter or member of UKIP who dares to hold a different opinion – particularly those with a lengthy track record of seeking transparency and aiming to clean-up the party.

Those who hope to remove filth and liars like themselves from UKIP’s employ and leadership claque – Their comments, criticisms and attempts at defence at validation are clearly of no value nor worthy of any respect or cogniscenece.

That those who post as skeptyk are too ashamed to put their name to their lies and the style of their odious behaviour demeans UKIP more than they could ever be considered of value as with those who post as Independent UKIP or the moronic Gothmog (aka William Shaw) – not only cowardly but clearly as with the liar Stuart Parr and Mick McGough who is a placement on the NEC such scum of the earth and liars do UKIP more harm than every they may foolishly consider they aid it.

As with association with the crass, amateur and foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller and her sordid little AthenaPR agency.

The comments of Barbara Booker in response to ‘Geoffrey Collier’ a loyal and supportive member of UKIP for many years who has been frequently defamed and abused by the scum gathered in ambition around the leadership position in UKIP for his efforts to improve the Party and bring various seemingly clear theives to book where it would seem possibly many £Millions have been stolen, misappropriated or embezzled.

Ms. Bookers comments are, as ever, both reasoned and substantiated:
Geoffrey, to clarify:

When trying to check the authenticity of the Tim Congdon email, I found it did not appear on Michael Heaver’s blog as stated by skeptyk in post #1 of this thread. 

A google search brought up several references to it having been posted on 12 May, but in each case clicking the link produced: “Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog Michael Heaver’s Blog does not exist”. 

As I didn’t then know about the Blogger problem of posts being temporarily deleted (the explanation offered by Richard Allen and skeptyk), I assumed MH had removed the post himself soon after making it, probably as a result of a complaint from TC. Hence my ‘sceptical’ comment.

I now see from buzz.blogger.com that by 15 May most of the affected posts had been restored, with bloggers advised to republish any that were still missing, so when checking Michael Heaver’s blog again I expected to find the elusive Congdon email back in its place. 

Not so. MH posted three times on 15 May, twice on 16th, once on 17th and once yesterday, but still no sign of a restored or republished email from Tim Congdon. My original assumption is therefore not only unchanged, but reinforced by further consideration.

One of the google references revealed enough of Michael Heaver’s 12 May post to show that he was definitely linking Tim Congdon’s comments with what he called “the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge”. See http://www.britishblogs.co.uk/categories/nigel-farage/

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An interesting email hit my desk this morning which shows us how disagreements in the Party should be conducted. Tim Congdon, the second place UKIP leadership challenger from last year has ruled himself out of joining the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge. In his own words:Nigel has many gifts – he is an outstanding speaker and television personality. He has been elected, by a large majority, for four years. He must be supported by all party members. Should he remain leader indefinitely? Well, that is for the party to decide. At this stage I intend to throw my hat in the ring again in 2014, as I believe the party needs its centre of gravity to be in this country, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. You may forward…


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Skeptyk continues the email in post #1. 

It appears from the break in the text and the repetition of “forward this to whomever you please” that it is actually quotes from two separate emails, probably written just after Nigel Farage won the leadership election last November. 

There is no proof whatsoever that TC wrote them in connection with any recent leadership issue, and it’s my belief that someone has cobbled extracts together and recirculated them in a pretence of current support for Farage which may not exist. 

If this conclusion is incorrect, Michael Heaver should publish the email in its entirety, with date, title and name of recipient so that we can see it in context and check its authenticity.

The balance of the CLAIMED comment of Tim Congdon, as claimed by Michael Heavers and selectively quoted, as Barbara Booker states, was posted on this blog. CLICK HERE

Since Skeptyk’s posting was subsequent to the removal from Michael Heavers’ blog it is probable one of the dishonest creatures, posting as the cowardly proven liar Skeptyk, obtained the copy as posted by them on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled blog from the posting on this blog by me at CLICK HERE.

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#0414* – UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/04/2011

#0414* – UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs
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UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs!
 

Yet Glibly TRIES To Sell This EU Scam seemingly designed to assist pro EU Pan EU Political Parties to steam roll opposition in any National Referendums!

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It is glibly claimed by some of the less intelligent UKIP NEC & Leadership, particularly their more sycophantic and self serving parasites, without any apparent sourcing or reference in support of their claims.

Surely after some 60 years of EU scams and shennanigens they would reasonably expect to engage their brains before putting their mouths in gear and potentially making fools of themselves yet again – they claim that:

‘money granted through participation in Pan EU Political Parties can be used to fight a referendum in the UK (IF WE GET ONE)’

To view this unfounded claim CLICK HERE for UKIP NEC members to sneer and abuse supporters and thus drag the party into their gutter style of sneering behaviour is damaging UKIP as has been UKIP’s manner with the level of idiot they habitually have in their leadership.
Clearly lacking any vestige of intellect or political nouse it would seem UKIP’s only ability is to cover-up their ineptitude with ill manners and lies, such that it is almost impossible and definitely unwise, to believe a word they say, having so consistently been proven either dishonest or just plain wrong!

Barbara Booker takes a more intelligent and reasoned look at this funding endorsing points made in earlier sections on this Blog.!

Has anyone bothered to check if this is true? (the comment by Mick McGough quoted above!)

It’s been generally accepted by not only UKIP spokespeople and EUobserver, but also the Daily Mail and Express, that a rule change now allows Europarties to use their funding to campaign in a referendum on UK membership, even though there appears to be no evidence for this other than Nigel Farage’s word.

As Farage is very keen indeed for members to agree to letting him take UKIP into a Europarty, it would be wise to verify his claims by getting the facts direct from the EP’s Constitutional Affairs Committee (AFCO) and the British Electoral Commission.

The trouble is, we are all very ready to believe claims about the ‘evil’ EU that play to our own prejudices. If those claims are based only on personal interpretation of possibly ambiguous statements translated from another language, it’s very easy to be mistaken. Nigel Farage has made one interpretation of the debate at a recent AFCO meeting; I have made another. As the implications for UKIP’s decision on joining a Europarty are so serious, I urge someone (Trevor Colman? Tim Congdon?) to establish the truth.

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At the AFCO meeting on 14 March rapporteur Marietta Giannakou presented her draft report reviewing the regulations governing Europarties and recommending some changes, including one that would allow these parties to use their funds in referendum campaigns on directly linked EU issues. Current funding rules forbid Europarty participation in any referendum campaigns at all. 

The draft report is at http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdo…5/840655en.pdf and the only references to referendums are at points 16 and 30, and in the third paragraph from the end of section II of the explanatory statement. The contentious wording is at point 30 where, having noted that Europarties can already use their funds to campaign in EP elections, it says:

“they are prohibited from using these sums for financing ‘referenda campaigns’; considers that the reason for this is probably a concern that European parties and foundations could interfere in the domestic affairs of Member States; believes, however that, if European political parties are to play a political role at EU level, they should have the right to participate in such campaigns as long as the subject of the referendum has a direct link with issues concerning the European Union

Amendment 95, put down by Andrew Duff, removed from the draft report the words: “considers that the reason for this is probably a concern that European parties and foundations could interfere in the domestic affairs of Member States”.

Nigel Farage interprets this as allowing Europarties to spend their funding on a national referendum in the UK, a view that was expanded on by Gawain Towler in his blog England Expects on 15 March, reported by EUobserver on 17 March as posted at CLICK HERE, and by the Daily Mail on 19 March (Now MEPs can use UK taxpayers’ cash for propaganda to keep Britain in the EU) and Express on 21 March (Plot to ‘rig’ your EU vote). The similarity between the Mail and Express articles, using several near identical phrases, suggests that both articles may have sprung from the same press release; Stuart Agnew told the Mail that his group in the EP would use its funding to campaign for withdrawal, because “Why should taxpayers’ money just go to fund the “Yes” side?”; now Mick McGough says “this money can be used to fight a referendum in the UK”.

How true is all this? Well, Nigel Farage didn’t even wait for AFCO to vote on the report before rushing out his version and using it to give UKIP a shove towards joining a Europarty. At 6:03am on 15 March he was tweeting away:
“Decision by EP to allow pan euro parties to get involved in national referendums means UKIP must join or money will go to pro EU side”,
followed at 07:13 on Facebook by:
“MEPs in Committee have approved decisions to allow pan european political parties to become involved in national referendums on EU issues. This means that unless UKIP join one the money which we could spend getting our message across will be given to the other side”
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The first untruth is that the “EP” or “MEPs in Committee” had taken a decision. They hadn’t. AFCO had debated the report the day before, but didn’t vote on it until the 10am session on 15 March, some four hours after Farage’s twitter and Facebook posts. The rest of the EP didn’t get to vote on it until the plenary session on 6 April. Even now, there has been no rule change, because the resolution adopted on 6 April was non-legislative. The report is only a request to the Commission to propose a draft statute, which will then have to go all through the EP procedures again for consideration and amendment before becoming law. In the meantime, Europarties are still prohibited from involvement in referendums.

The second untruth is that the report calls for Europarties to become involved in “national” referendums. It doesn’t. It doesn’t even mention national referendums. It talks about Europarties’ role “at EU level”, so it would seem logical and not unreasonable that pan-EU parties would want to become involved in pan-EU referendums. Giannakou herself, when interviewed recently said: “EU parties would be allowed to take part only in those referenda campaigns directly connected to European issues, for example on a change of treaty”.

We also know from Sharon Ellul Bonici’s e-mail last October CLICK HERE that the European Alliance for Freedom (the Europarty UKIP would be joining) is planning to call for a referendum under the new Citizens’ Initiative: “one of the first campains we can engage ourselves in is to generate 1 million signatures to be able to instigate a pan wide European referendum on Turkey. The idea is to use the million signature clause according to the Lisbon Treaty”.

As the law stands at present, they could use their funds to petition for a referendum, but not to campaign in the referendum itself. It’s hardly surprising that MEPs want this situation changed.

Viewed like this, that the report has nothing to do with purely national referendums and only seeks involvement in pan-European ones, Duff’s amendment 95 would have been aimed simply at removing unwarranted fears over EU intervention rather than, as Gawain Towler suggests, brushing aside EU recognition that it shouldn’t interfere in domestic affairs.

A third untruth, at least under current British electoral law, is that Europarty funds can be used in a UK referendum campaign. Gawain Towler touches on this: “money donated to the Lib Dem Euro political party, by someone living in France, could be used to fund a pro-European referendum campaign in the UK by washing it through the European Political Party. In direct contravension of British electoral law, but so be it”.

He is right, of course, but the same would apply if the donor living in another EU country had given money to UKIP’s Europarty. Before UKIP members get pushed too far down the Europarty road, advice should be sought from the Electoral Commission on the implications of a possible change in EU law. Europarties, which by their nature accept donations from non UK residents, would presumably have to register as political parties here in order to become permitted participants in UK referendums. What would be ElCom’s view on this?

Finally, even if such electoral hurdles were cleared it is by no means certain that Farage, Agnew, McGough, etc. are right in saying that UKIP could use Europarty money to fight for withdrawal in a UK referendum.

It cannot be emphasized too strongly that no EU funds would be available to UKIP itself. The money would go to the Europarty, to campaign in the referendum (if that was allowed) on whatever stance the Europarty took on EU withdrawal. Since other Europarty members are in favour of EU membership, and since they would be aware that winning a UK referendum would mean the loss of UKIP from the EP, quite possibly resulting in their Europarty’s collapse, how can we be so sure they wouldn’t want to campaign for the ‘stay in’ side?

Turkeys voting for their own demise at Christmas is one thing. Agreeing to fund the slaughterhouse is something else!

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#0256* – WILL Stuart WHEELER Clean-Up UKIP & MAKE IT ELECTABLE?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/01/2011

#0256* – WILL Stuart WHEELER Clean-Up UKIP & MAKE IT ELECTABLE?
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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WILL Stuart WHEELER Clean-Up UKIP & MAKE IT ELECTABLE?
WHEELER ADMITS HE KNOWS UKIP LEADERSHIP IS CORRUPT!
WHEELER IMPLIES A PROMISE of FORENSIC ACCOUNTING & TRANSPARENCY!

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Hi,

sorry I have been a tad remiss in keeping you up to date with UKIP events and the idiocy of those pretending to lead it and their parasites – it does take a fair amount longer to ensure the facts I provide are reliable than just scrawling any old defamatory statement as do the clearly anti homosexual and VERY Common man or the vituperative and dishonest Skeptyk. Even the fantasies of Douglas Denny are easy to write as it is just his imagination.

With a blog like this one it is important to strive to be honest and accurate and if for no other reason than I use my own name I must do my honest best to be accurate – hence NEVER have I been asked to make a major material correction on something I have written, nor have I ever had to apologise for getting anything of consequence wrong.

It is not easy to check many of the facts without revealing the many sources I have who supply information in the hope of cleaning-up UKIP to make it electable and to expose the dishonesty, corruption and incompetence of UKIP leadership and its self serving parasites. 

Fortunately to date I have NEVER got a fact of consequence wrong and this blog has proved 100% reliable. For all the lies and clamouring of the pond life and parasdites of UKIP leadership this blog and Caterpillars & Butterflies before it and the very many links and references in text and in the right sidebar have been an accurate source of information on UKIP over a number of years.

Hence I presume it is so consistently read for source material by the media and those who are serious about cleaning-up UKIP to make it electable.

We have all seen just how unelectable UKIP is under its present leadership as shown by the risible results at Oldham East & Saddleworth which was a complete and utter waste of political time and UKIP funding.

Output has been a bit down recently for which I apologise as health and computer have been playing up a bit and my Mother’s sister is on the verge of death at 96 so my cousin is here from Germany etc. etc. Plus a friend has been having problems with a stalker called Peter Harris, from Wollaston, which I am helping to solve with the Police

Also the Hollie Greig case may well find the criminally irresponsible Robert Green in Court shortly despite the posturing and dishonesty of the idiotic Matt Quinn, David Icke, Brian Gerrish, Ian McFerron, George McKendrick and others.

It does look as if Justice in that case is gathering speed and all those who have been so clearly defamed by the low lifes in support of Green, regardless of the facts, in misguided protection of paedophelia at large, will be exhonorated when it is made clear in a Court that there is absolutely no admissible valid evidence to indicate Hollie Greig was EVER sexually abused in Aberdeen by those Robert Green & StuartUsher, Peter Eyer and others, still to this day name without any valid evidence.

Also you may be interested in the efforts of http://TheMidnightGroup.blogspot.com and the articles promised in next week and the week after’s Sunday Press regarding corruption that I have been involved with and the continuing saga of the corrupt Courts and forced adoption as shown on:
http://StolenKids-SADS.blogspot.com 

In passing Nikki Sinclaire was excellent on Radio 5 Live so I did a bit of digging today and I found she was the Key Note Speaker with Caroline Spellman in yesterdays major conference of Planning Law in Relation to Travellers. Nikki’s points on there should be no discrimination be it positive or negative and that discrimination is wrong were very valid and in my opinion go way beyond planning!

I’ll try to find more about this Official Conference and publish it later in the week if it will help. (any details would be appreciated).

Tycoon Wheeler may still vote Tory even after becoming Ukip treasurer

Stuart Wheeler
Gambling tycoon Stuart Wheeler says he may still vote Conservative despite becoming the new treasurer of the UK Independence Party.
The millionaire businessman, who lives at Chilham Castle, near Canterbury, was expelled by the Tories in 2009 for giving £100,000 to their Euro-sceptic opponents, who he now hopes to raise even more money for Ukip in an official capacity.
However, Mr Wheeler said he would only vote Conservative in future local and general elections if there were no Ukip candidates standing in his constituency.
His current political stance is far removed from his position of 11 years ago when he handed over £5 million to the William Hague-led Tories – the largest ever donation to a political party.
“I’ve always been very strongly opposed to our relationship with the EU,” said Mr Wheeler. “And over the last year I’ve gradually come to realise that the EU is unreformable, and also the Conservative Party is going to do precious little about it.
“The right thing for the country to do is to leave Europe, and that is the main aim of Ukip. If you think like me then there’s no other party you can join, unless you’re a racist and want to sign up to the BNP.
“I’m now going to be very much a supporter and member of Ukip, and as long as Ukip candidates are standing in my area then I will vote for them.
“If they’re not then I’m more inclined to vote Conservative than anyone else, but I’m still unhappy with the party and its stance on the EU in particular.”
Mr Wheeler made his first donation to Ukip in March, 2009, just months after Marta Andreasen – the controversial former chief accountant of the European Commission – was unveiled as the party’s new treasurer. However, she quit Ukip later that year, claiming she disagreed with how it was being managed at chairmanship level.
Mr Wheeler had also previously told KoS he did not want to join Ukip because there were “some internal rumblings there that I would not want to get involved in”.
When asked about those comments this week, Mr Wheeler said he had put his previous concerns about the party behind him.
“As far as my job is concerned it doesn’t really matter what decisions were made in the past,” he said. “People still say this, that and the other to me about the party, but part of the basis of my appointment was that I should be allowed to investigate any issues that may arise regarding its finances.
“The party is clear that everything should be more out in the open in future.”
Mr Wheeler, who made his fortune as the founder of the IG Index spread-betting firm, launched his own party – Trust – and unsuccessfully ran for Parliament in Bexhill and Battle at the last general election.
He told KoS he would have discussions with the party’s supporters between now and March 1, when he officially joins Ukip, about what will happen to the organisation.
In the meantime Mr Wheeler is looking forward to teaming up with Ukip leader and fellow Kent resident Nigel Farage, who was born in Bromley but now lives in Westerham, near Sevenoaks.
“I get on extremely well with Nigel, as I do with executive chairman Steve Crowther, who will effectively run the party while Nigel is in Europe,” he said.
“I’ve been very impressed with what I’ve seen so far.”

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Interesting on the same day this was published one of UKIP’s knee jerk fans who have done such harm to UKIP over the years came out with this comment about UKIP viz a viz Stuart Wheeler:

Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
Now Stuart Wheeler is in charge of the money it will mean a big step jump in probity as far as finances are concerned.

An apposite riposte might have been that of another poster in the style of ‘Mrs. Merton’:

And what part of his wealth was it that convinced you he was a good friend’?

A comment largely apposite because you will by now have noted somewhere, if not his comment in the press above:

“I’m now going to be very much a supporter and member of Ukip, and as long as Ukip candidates are standing in my area then I will vote for them.
“If they’re not then I’m more inclined to vote Conservative than anyone else, but I’m still unhappy with the party and its stance on the EU in particular.”

One wonders if he will, like his Old Etonian chum The Lunchtime Lord Malcolm Pearson, be out campaigning for The Tories in elections, in totally unprincipled betrayal of UKIP members but no doubt based on an in depthy contempt for the sqabbling MEPs, leadership and parasites and their racist, anti Jewish and sexually intollerant behaviour.

However in Pearson’s case the racism rides high it would seem to judge by the articles regarding him and his status as a racist in his own right supporting Zionism with its anti Palestinian stance and criminal behaviour through Mossad and its support for the terrorist forces of The IDF and the international criminality of their attitude to Nuclear Arms agreement!

Barbara Booker has as ever made a most prescient remark! Relative to the UKIP supporting village idiot Baron von Lotsov (quoted above) whose mantras, jingo and naiivity all too readily explain why he is ashamed to put his real name to his comments just as Skeptyk due to a clearly vile and untrustworthy personality and being the dishonest mouthpiece of others is too ashamed to put their name to comments!

Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
Now Stuart Wheeler is in charge of the money it will mean a big step jump in probity as far as finances are concerned.

Barbara Booker’s comment was:

That’s what we were told when Marta Andreasen became treasurer. UKIP statement, 8 October 2007:

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Mr Farage said he was “delighted” that Mrs Andreasen had taken up the position. “I hope her appointment will restore faith in the financial security and propriety of the party, which due to recent circumstances has not been as good as it could have been,” he said.
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If Nigel Farage’s hope then had been realised, there would not now be any need to brush aside the current treasurer in order to bring in another outsider. Stuart Wheeler’s comment on the crucial nature of the party’s financial management would have been superfluous.

As it is, the impression has been created that a wealthy donor has so little faith in UKIP’s financial management that he insists on controlling the party purse strings before untying his own again. It is, after all, more usual to join a party first as an ordinary member before being promoted to a position of responsibility. Not come straight in as treasurer when there is no vacancy for that position.

Baron von Lotsov apparently shares this concern, since he sees room for “a big step jump” in financial probity.

Is it that you consider probity to have plunged under Mark Wadsworth’s treasurership, Baron?

Or just that with Nigel Farage as leader again you think probity could do with all the help it can get?

Possibly the most apposite part of the comment relative to probity was:
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Mr Farage said he was “delighted” that Mrs Andreasen had taken up the position. “I hope her appointment will restore faith in the financial security and propriety of the party, which due to recent circumstances has not been as good as it could have been,” he said.
ends

It is entirely reasonable to ask whether Nigel Farage appointed this utterly dishonest and untrustworthy woman out of stupidity or out of incompetence – One need only realise that she was happy to be dependent on corruption to gain her place on the two MEP selection lists, as shown in detailed facts if you CLICK HERE and that she is without morality, probity or ethics when one reads her dishonest track record for instance CLICK HERE or HERE

One will note Andreasen, having through dishonesty achieved her aim of a highly paid non job in The EU as an MEP wasted no time in quitting any responsible position in UKIP and seems since to have spent much time publishing and promoting her self serving novella with visits to her home in Barcelona as a Spanish citizen and with little command of British matters as she openly campaigns in favour of EU membership and change when the electorate of UKIP, who were dishonestly duped to vote for her, actively sought to leave the EU.

As a very long term supporter of UKIP I am forced to wonder if UKIP has any real future or is it forever to be the enrichment vehicle of low lifes and chavs and the plaything of one rich gambler after another.

Is it any wonder it has no vision, no strategy, no tactics, no probity and no one trusts these spivs and clowns as shown by the catastrophic results in the last General election with 3.01% of the vote – a position clearly repeated in Oldham East & Saddleworth when despite fielding the deputy spiv. these know nothing fools only just pipped The BNP and with a mere 2 thousand votes it looks as if they achieved their aim with 50 votes more than The BNP at a cost of about £160 per vote!

UKIP members are desperate for good news and even clutch at the straws of a blog in the Telegraph!
A Journalist writes that The Tories fear UKIP at the next EU election – one can not for a moment think why as even if UKIP won every single UK seat in The EU it would make no more difference than the irrelevancy they have proved to date.

It sounds extreme but think for a moment what a main plank of UKIP belief is – There is no democracy in The EU, The EU Parliament is irrelevant, The EU should have no power.

Well UKIP has proved there is no democracy in the EU they can not even organise honest democratic internal elections and we now have the utterly shameful farce of 3 liars in the Eastern Region being the panel of probity to select candidates for UKIP. You couldn’t make it up – there is Lisa Duffy taking a break from shelf stacking and raising several families who has a proven track record of dishonesty – You will note she was admonished for her implausible dishonesty in a British Court having lied under oath.
Then we have the crook and scoundrel Andrew Smith who failed woefully to keep competent accounts during his period as treasurer for UKIP and when confronted with a qualified accountant, qualified Banker and qualified Chartered Accountant fully qualified as a Financial Adviser he legged it at speed leaving Alan Bown to try to mount an appologia for the dishonest mess – You will recall it was Andrew Smith and his utter incompetence which led to UKIP being found guilty in the Courts when prosecuted by the Crown for breech of electoral Law, a charge and verdict which stand to this day!

Then we have the blustering ill mannered and bullying oaf the liar and cheat Mike McGough – who lied and cheated to try to gain personal advantage against his UKIP colleagues – the odious little creep who leaks confidential correspondence and would cross the Country to talk tediously about himself.

This is clearly the best UKIP can muster by way of probity yet they want voters to elect them!

UKIP is utterly dishonourable under its present leadership and however many £Millions Stuart Wheeler pours into the bucket it is a total waste as the bucket is riddled with holes.

If Stuart Wheeler wishes to achieve something with his money to improve UKIP he could start out by an apology to Nikki9 Sinclaire with a large amount of compensation on the understanding she would invest the money received in The Petition to have an EU Referendum and causes in her own constituency having been reinstated as an OFFICIAL Independent UKIP member and MEP.

Secondly start to remove the criminal element in UKIP – the liars, the cheats and the self enrichers.

Thirdly remove the likes of Douglas Denny, Mike McGough, Mark Croucher, Gawain Towler, Malcolm Wood, Stuart Parr, Annabelle Fuller, Marta Andreasen, Stuart Agnew, David Bannerman and the other liars and low lifes who have defamed UKIP by their presence.

Fourthly withdraw from membership of the vile racist, anti Jewish EFD aned sit in dignity ONLY minded of research for membership distribution to raise the new Cleaned-up UKIP’s profile to give just some sort of chance in UK elections.

Fifthly you might go some way to convince me if you were to settle the £12.1/2K bill UKIP is morally liable to me for having incurred me with their dishonesty & corruption as displayed by Mark Croucher in their employ and both Clive Page & Paul Nuttall who acted for him for the Courts and were found against.

Sixthly to convince others it would be wise to offer a reasonable sum and the right to rejoin UKIP to John West, by way of compensation for the vile behaviour, the lies and bullying he has received from filth like Mike McGough, Peter Reeve, The NEC, Annabelle Fuller, George Curtis, Stuart Gulleford, Jonathan Arnott and their odious ilk.

Seventhly issue an unequivocal apology from UKIP’s leadership for their reprehensible actions in seeking to cover-up the criminality of Tom Wise including the lies and dishonesty of Nigel Farage, Douglas Denny, Trevor Colman and others with named apologies to all who can show they tried to enforce honesty on these corrupt individuals.

There are clearly other aspects that need addressing – as Stuart Wheeler himself has said:

Mr Wheeler had also previously told KoS he did not want to join Ukip because there were “some internal rumblings there that I would not want to get involved in”.
When asked about those comments this week, Mr Wheeler said he had put his previous concerns about the party behind him.
“As far as my job is concerned it doesn’t really matter what decisions were made in the past,” he said. “People still say this, that and the other to me about the party, but part of the basis of my appointment was that I should be allowed to investigate any issues that may arise regarding its finances.
“The party is clear that everything should be more out in the open in future.”

Let us see if Stuarty Wheeler is an honest man and to be trusted as he has clearly implied here that he is aware of the corruption and can be counted on to provide a forensic accounting of the past in UKIP to ensure transparency and that those who have stolen money are brought to book – failure to do this, in the light of his words would indicate that although he is aware of the corruption he is quite happy to collude in it and cares not if his new plaything is built on failed foundations as he has no interest in integrity, ethics or morality – however don’t be surprised if that is the case as he is after all an Old Etonian!!

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#0129* – UKIP + EFD = Fully Funded EUthenasia for UKIP. EUkip REBORN!

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#0129* – UKIP + EFD = Fully Funded EUthenasia for UKIP. EUkip REBORN!
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
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Hi,

Recently you will have seen cautionary information regarding UKIP being duped regarding Pan EU Political Parties and selling out their principles and Steve Allison whom this blog cautioned against as Farage’s man in disguise re. the NEC Election as with Mick McTrough, Elizabeth Burton and others whose presence on the NEC as puppets and muppets brings UKIP into disrepute.

We also cautioned regarding Steve Allison as inappropriate as Campaign Manager for Tim Congdon’s leadership bid.

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Full Name: Steve Allison
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How very apposite – I wonder howmany other people will be Older, Wiser & Sadder having permitted people like McTrough, Duffy, Denny, Allison, Williams, Curtis, Clark, Burton, Batten, Smith, Croucher, Wood (Malcol), Andreasen seize control to ensure it remains the Farage Fan Club at the cost of UKIP Principles, values, manners and ethics.


For those who wish to know the facts and avoid the spin you may care to commence, before reading on, to CLICK HERE or CLICK HERE and HERE and also HERE 

I am heavily reliant for quotes below on Wikipedia which I show in Green, for Barbara Booker aka Barboo which I show in blue, any comments by UKIP members I show in purple – I hope this makes the post easier to follow.

In consideration of UKIP forming a Pan EU Political Party as The EFD or similar – which, particularly in the light of Derek Clark’s betrayal of Britain and Andreasen’s disinterest in Britain working for Spain and herself and Farage’s speech in Berlin at the Reinbeckhalle on Saturday (for details CLICK HERE).
With comprehensive details and text + Pictures CLICK HERE

So let us consider the difficulties which for starters include the concept that to gain back Tax Payers’ money from The EU any elected Party MUST decide to form a Pan EU Political Party – Thus not just strengthening The very enemy they seek to dismantle but in democratic terms fore-swearing their rights of free speech and self determination as they MUST – having first jumped through the malign EU Hoop next accept INSTRUCTION on how they may spend the money!

Controversy

Europarty funding goes to Europarties and stays with Europarties: the funding cannot be used for the funding of other political parties and in particular national political parties.[8] National political parties disinclined from joining Europarties are thereby disadvantaged.[18] 25 Members of the European Parliament petitioned the European Court of Justice, arguing that this contravened the EU’s stated values of pluralism and democracy. The case was rejected after eighteen months.[19][20] A closely related case fought by the French Front National, the Italian Lega Nord, and the Belgian Vlaams Blok (now Vlaams Belang) was appealed[21] and rejected.[22]

Clearly there are many reasons to fore-swear the malign diktat of the central dictator committee’s bribes – that they are bribes would of course be reason enough to the principled and reject the entire concept for honourable men and women, but they are bribes and we are talking about self serving politicians!

Regulations

As of 1 November 2008, the regulation governing Europarties is Regulation (EC) No 2004/2003 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 4 November 2003,[8] as later amended[9] under codecision (see above). According to that regulation’s European Commission factsheet,[10] for a party to become a Europarty it must meet the following criteria:
  • it must have legal personality in the Member State in which its seat is located.
  • it must observe the founding principles of the European Union, namely the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.
  • it must have participated, or intend to participate, in elections to the European Parliament.
  • it must have in at least one quarter of the Member States, one or both of the following:
  • either it must have received at least 3% of the votes cast in each of those Member States at the most recent European Parliament elections.
  • or it must already be represented by Members, whether Members of the European Parliament for those states, or Members of the national Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional Assemblies of those states.
  • it must publish its revenue and expenditure annually.
  • it must publish a statement of its assets and liabilities annually.
  • it must provide a list of its donors and their donations exceeding €500.
  • it must not accept anonymous donations.
  • it must not accept donations exceeding €12,000 per year and per donor.
  • it must not accept donations from the budgets of political groups of the European Parliament.
  • it must not accept more than 40% of a national political party’s annual budget.
  • it must not accept donations from any company over which the public authorities may exercise a dominant influence, either by virtue of their ownership of it, or by their financial participation therein.
  • it must get at least 25% of its budget from sources other than its European Union funding.
  • it must submit its application by the 15 November before the financial year that it wants funding for.

All that boils down in real terms to – YOU WILL comply with OUR TERMS that we have decided to IMPOSE and if you decline:

Firstly you will miss out on a relatively unaccountable free handout of other peoples’ money for YOU to feather YOUR nest and in so doing strengthen the corrupt aims of The Malign and malevolent EU.

Secondly if you do NOT do as we tell you we will imply that you opposed these basic terms:

it must observe the founding principles of the European Union, namely the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

Right lets look at this cleverly worded blackmail by The EU!
The EU dishonestly claims:

it observe the founding principles of the European Union,

It does NOT they are merely flowery words that The EU completely ignores!

namely the principles of liberty,

Even Prisons offer periods of Free Association – there are no fundamental Freedoms on offer in this EU Political Prison – The Gulag is set up to ensure The State functions as a supra National Empirate enforced upon the largely opposed people – due to standards of education and a propaganda budget of £2.4Billion stolen from the prisoners annually – the balance of the population are so ignorant they have no understanding of the evil being done to them or they are on the Political Gravy Train enjoying the bribe culture and are bought and paid for.

democracy,

The EU pretends it has a Democratic deficit when in fact it has made it abundantly clear it has absolutely no knowledge or understanding of the basic tenets of democracy!

respect for human rights

This of course is a bare faced lie as even The United Nations, for which I have almost as little respect as I have for The EU or the rest of the New World, Globalist dissorder being managed to control through chaos – The UN clearly states in its Foundation Charter that a fundamental human right is the right of self determination.

There is absolutely no right of Self Determination in The EU where as you know The French, The Dutch & The Irish ALL voted and rejected membership of The EU and engagement with the New Constitution Lisbon Treaty to the horror of the Dictator Committee of apparatchicks and their vassals – such that they blocked other Countries having the opportunity of Self Determination and lied to achieve their corrupt outcome.

They have no respect for Human Rights – one need only study the new codex of law ‘Corpus Juris’ based upon the laws of The Emperor Justinius with an overlay of code Napoleon to produce a ‘better fairer system of REPRESSION’ I quote ‘CORPUS JURIS – Mireille Delmas-Marty EU Publication for DrG Finance ISBN 2-7178-3344-7 end of para 3 page 40

and fundamental freedoms,

What fundamental Freedoms do we enjoy that we did not enjoy or more to the point wished for as British citizens that are in some way granted that were precluded under British law had we wished for them and enjoyed our fundamental human right of SELF DETERMINATION.

and the rule of law.

The EU has no legitimate Laws as it has enacted a huge series of diktats and due to the total lack of democratic input and the fact that only a minority are in favour of membership they have no validity.

Further when edward Heath negotiated and led these United Kingdoms backwards into this arcane concept he has admitted both on TV in an interview with David Frost and subsequently repeated on the floor of The House of Commons and thus on record in Hansard that he and his Cabinet deliberately lied to Parliament and the peoples and also it seems The Monarch when he stated that ‘This will lead to no essential loss of Sovereignty’ – he has confirmed that he lied because he believed that the people would vote NO in the referendum if they knew the truth.

Many people believe the people voted NO anyway, despite his criminal deception and thus at the time TREASON. Many believe it was by lumping of Constituencies to fudge a result!

Under UK Law at the time which was upheld by The Treaty of Vienna on International Treaties it clearly states that should one party mislead another to obtain their agreement, acquiescence or compliance to a contract or agreement said contract or agreement shall be deemed null and void.

Thus Ipso Facto Britain’s signature to The Treaty of Rome is by any stretch of the imagination NULL & VOID.

Thus since every single EU encroachment since that unlawfull document is merely an ammendment founded upon the pre supposition that the foundation document was sound there is no stronger argument against Britain’s membership of the centralised alien and malign committee dictatorship of The EU than the simple fact that there is prima facie evidence that our entire participation is Ultra Vires.

WE ARE NOT LEGALLY MEMBERS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION

Now consider the excellent fisking of Steve Allison’s confused statement lifted earlier from The UKIP members’ forum – the site where those too timerous to discuss their views and promote and defend them crano rectally retentatively navel gaze from the inside! An incestuous and heavily moderated site for those of little political nouse and less competence to impress eachother in a vacuum!

Steve Allison on pan-EU parties

Junius has posted comments said to have been made by Steve Allison on the UKIP members’ forum, following an NEC meeting at which a presentation on forming a pan-European party to access additional EU funding was discussed.

The Euro-sceptic Parties, like UKIP, tend to shy away from forming organisations that are seen as taking them deeper into the system. As illustrated by the almost frenzied rush by some sections of UKIP to ensure our party is not contaminated by receipt of such money! This means Euro-sceptic groups don’t access the funding that is available and leave the field clear for the pro-EU organisations to grab all the cash.

UKIP Members seem to fixate on the requirement that to draw down such funds the party must “observe the founding principles of the European Union”.

However, those ‘founding principles’ are the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

Which of those principles does UKIP Object to? Obviously we have a different interpretation of them from other parties and nations, and we understand and practise them in a very different way from Continental Europeans. But we, as a party do support these principles. There is no requirement for example to support any other aims of the EU, there is no requirement to support political union or greater integration. The irony is that UKIP could take EU Money and use it to fight political union and further integration in the name of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

So it’s not that such funding isn’t available to Euro sceptic groups. It is just that such groups chose to not access the funding due to some mistaken idea of ideological purity.

The phrase “Cutting off one’s own nose to spite one’s face” comes to mind here.

Paid by whom and with what?
One of the carrots of accepting membership of a pan-European political party would be funding for a “think tank” to develop policy. This would probably be based in the UK with a big slice of 1,300,000 Euro Budget. This money could be used to research positions, produce policies, print and distribute booklets, etc. It could also be used to fund conferences and meetings. Yes I know its a buy off (or a sell out?) but its a lot of money that UKIP could use to fight the EU with.

I rather like the irony of using the EU’s money to fight against it. At least we’d be getting some of our own money back.

If you think about it UKIP does only exist because of the EU! At the risk of breaking NEC Confidentiality I will say there was extensive discussion about this at the NEC and a lot more information is still outstanding. I went into the meeting pre-disposed to fight the “Pan European Party” to my last breath, but I listened to the presentation, I asked questions and received answers and I agreed at NEC that the party should investigate the outstanding issues and the NEC receive another report.

The proposal was then to present this report at a special meeting open to all UKIP Members in London on October 9th. The morning session could have been an official Leadership Hustings and an afternoon session on the pan European party proposal. This would have allowed three or even four hours of informed discussion rather than just the very brief debate and prepared speeches to the motion at conference.

Unfortunately I understand the amendment to the motion was defeated and so the Special General Meeting will now not take place. I think this is a real shame as it would have allowed informed decision making and not knee jerk responses

I have not agreed to the proposal but what I have said is that it doesn’t need to be rejected out of hand without some really serious consideration. There is some serious money on the table and UKIP needs every penny it can get. The key question I asked, and received assurances to, was that being in such a party would in no way mean the end of UKIP, we would still be UKIP and would continue to campaign and stand in elections as UKIP.

The whole thing is by no means a done deal but there are some very attractive carrots on offer and I for one find the irony very attractive in taking EU Money to spend fighting the EU.

Assuming the comments are genuine and accurately reported, they are worth considering in detail as the subject is fundamental to UKIP’s future. The essential points made by Steve Allison are:
quote (Steve Allison)

UKIP Members seem to fixate on the requirement that to draw down such funds the party must “observe the founding principles of the European Union”. However, those ‘founding principles’ are the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law. Which of those principles does UKIP Object to? . . . . we, as a party do support these principles. There is no requirement for example to support any other aims of the EU, there is no requirement to support political union or greater integration.

unquote
Steve Allison would appear to be remarkably poorly informed here. If UKIP members are indeed fixated as he suggests it is because they have heard their MEPs, particularly Nigel Farage, say over and again that the party rejects the state funding of pan-EU political parties precisely because qualification requirements conflict with UKIP aims and principles. Is SA not aware that in 2004 MEPs Farage, Titford and Booth even took the European parliament and Council of Ministers to the European Court in an attempt to kill off the funding legislation? You can’t spend years saying something is dangerous and unacceptable, then suddenly present it as an attractive carrot and expect to carry the membership with you. See the following:

Press release from Jeffrey Titford MEP, 26.7.00:
The European Union plans to fund only those parties which “support the principle of European integration“.

UKIP and EDD press release 18.2.03: The European proposals would require parties in receipt of funding to accept both the primacy of European Union law, and the EU’s Charter of Fundamental Rights. Jeffrey Titford said,
It can hardly be considered democratic to require parties to accept a certain political position, in this case acceptance of the supremacy of the European Union and its bodies, in order to secure funding“.

Daily Telegraph 20.2.03:
Mr Farage said he was proud to be disqualified from receiving such funding. “I most certainly don’t respect the primacy of EU law and I think the charter (of Fundamental Rights) is downright dangerous

Nigel Farage to CIB Liberty News, Spring 2003:
in order for a political party to be registered it must ensure that the statute and activities of the European political party respect the basic purposes of the Union with regard to freedom, democracy, human rights, fundamental freedoms and the rule of law“.

This immediately presents difficulties for parties that disagree with the objectives of the European Union . . . the UK Independence Party would immediately fall foul of the Commission because one of its aims is British withdrawal from the Union. It also disagrees with the principles of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights and does not recognise the supremacy of EU laws over those of Great Britain, making it a complete non-starter under the new rules!

Europarl verbatim report of proceedings 18.6.03, Statute and financing of European political parties:
Booth (EDD) – Two recent opinion polls in the UK gave figures of 92% and 96% as wanting to leave the European Union, and yet this proposal would deny funding to any party who should dare to represent the views of that very large proportion of its citizens“.

BBC Radio 4 ‘World at One’ 27.6.03: Nigel Farage is an MEP for the UK Independence Party. As a member of a party who wouldn’t receive any of the new money he’s furious about the proposals: (Farage)
If you support the political union, if you support the European project you’ll get money, if you don’t you won’t get money“.

UKIP press release, 28.1.04 ‘UKIP MEPs take Euro Parliament to court over state funding of parties’ – UK Independence Party MEP Nigel Farage said,
We are opposed on principle to the idea of state funding of political parties, either nationally or at a European level. It is not an appropriate use of tax-payers money. As if that was not bad enough, the legislation adopted by the European Parliament and the Council of Ministers will discriminate against certain political parties. It requires the recipients of European funding to subscribe to pre-set political ideals, such as agreement with greater European integration“.

Europarl verbatim report of proceedings 8.3.04, Statute and financing of political parties at European level:
Farage (EDD) I do not think there is any evidence that suggests that the voters in my country or in any other country are happy for their money directly to finance political parties at a European level. I have also felt, ever since Nice and Article 191, that this idea that you qualify if you conform to the democratic principles of the Union is potentially a dangerous one. I have some difficulty with the issue of the rule of law. It seems to me that, post-Constitution, some in this place – and I am one of them – will not recognise that new rule of law because we will only be able to leave the EU on terms of the EU“.

UKIP Letter from Strasbourg 22.11.05:
Pan EU Political Parties. Within the Independence and Democracy Group, two parties have emerged. However, UKIP joined neither of them, because there are no other moderate parties in the parliament that want to leave the EU and also, because UKIP disapproves of state funding for parties, which is to be made available to these new combinations“.

UKIP press release 3.2.06:
Snouts deeper in the trough – the European Parliament’s Budgetary Control Committee last night rubber-stamped a massive 19% hike in taxpayers’ money to be gifted to ‘European Political Parties’. Tom Wise MEP (UKIP) denounced the decision. The concept of European Political parties is itself a travesty designed mainly to raise more cash for pro-European political forces. To qualify, parties represented in the European Parliament from at least 7 different countries have to subscribe to a single political platform. This naturally discriminates against those parties that believe in national self-determination“.

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A question that could be put to Nigel Farage at the leadership hustings is, were he and UKIP’s other MEPs lying over that five year period when they kept saying UKIP would be denied funding because of its stance on EU integration, or did they just not understand the funding criteria? And whichever it was, how are members to know they’re not lying / misunderstanding now in their presentation to the NEC?
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quote (Steve Allison)

One of the carrots of accepting membership of a pan-European political party would be funding for a “think tank” to develop policy. This would probably be based in the UK with a big slice of 1,300,000 Euro Budget. This money could be used to research positions, produce policies, print and distribute booklets, etc. It could also be used to fund conferences and meetings. Yes I know its a buy off (or a sell out?) but its a lot of money that UKIP could use to fight the EU with.

unquote
No, UKIP most definitely could not use the money to fight the EU! The regulations governing the funding of political parties at European level (pan-EU parties) and their associated political foundation ‘think tanks’ specifically rule out the money being used by national political parties. To form a pan-EU party UKIP would have to agree a common political programme with parties from six other member states, and the funds could only be used to further objectives set out in that programme. ‘Withdrawal’ would not feature in it since no other EFD members want to leave the EU, and the research, policies, booklets, meetings, conferences, etc, would all have to promote the new party’s aims of ‘improving’ the EU.
quote (Steve Allison)

The key question I asked, and received assurances to, was that being in such a party would in no way mean the end of UKIP, we would still be UKIP and would continue to campaign and stand in elections as UKIP.

unquote
This is only partially true. Legislation currently being steered through the EP’s Constitutional Affairs Committee (AFCO) by the LibDem MEP Andrew Duff includes a draft proposal for 25 seats at the 2014 Euro-elections to be contested by pan-European parties on an EU wide basis. If by then UKIP is in a pan-European party it will not be able to contest these seats as UKIP. Furthermore, although European Party funding cannot be used for campaigning by national parties the reverse does not apply, and UKIP funds can and no doubt will be used for the new European Party’s campaign. Obviously, 25 seats will be just the thin end of the wedge, and at future EU elections UKIP members can expect to see ever more of their party’s funds diverted into the election campaigns of EFD (or whatever they call themselves) MEPs.
Don’t say you haven’t been warned!

May I take the liberty of reitterating Barbara Booker’s excellent conclusion in my own name!

Don’t say you haven’t been warned!

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