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#0649* – Even a Lawson Love In by UKIP Fails to hit the spot

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/09/2011

#0649* – Even a Lawson Love In by UKIP Fails to hit the spot!

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Richard Watt has posted an interesting if somewhat contrived blog.

I say contrived because surely UKIP can not be so grossly out of touch with British politics as to have only just realised this!

One appreciates UKIP has very little presence in Britain with its leadership dedicated to The EU dream and crano rectally retentively riding the gravy train for all it is worth – surely they must have been tipped off by someone more astute or at very least more awake to the fact that Nigel Lawson has had at very least grave misguivings about The EU since he left office in 1989 22 years ago.

Nigel Lawson, like Norman Tebbit and even Margaret Thatcher would seem to admit they had Damascene convertions AFTER they had any income or influence in Government.

Now at almost 80 Lawson is able to put his impramature on his belated prognostications on The EU but sadly at 80 that is a little late as with the octogenarian Norman Tebbi – sadly Margaret Thatcher would seem to have had her outspoken moments long after their delivery was consequential as when she offered her advoce and support to Nikki Sinclaire in opposition to The EU.

It is a change to see UKIP leadership involved in a story of some consequence in the run up to their EFD Conference at the end of the week. Though with the Michael Heaver story they have achieved something of an own goal showing how unprofessional and fractured the party is CLICK HERE

Though even that is better than endless article about their leaders testicals and the drunken antics and theft by his staff.

There has been little for UKIP to present having spent almost an entire year navel gazing and squabbling, or should that not be ANOTHER year!

Considering the many £Millions trousered by its leadership and the miniscule donation level they have displayed save in their personal re-election campaigns – it would be interesting to see a dossier of facts materialise around the liar, and general low life, Derek Clark as with the compilation of documents presented by Derek Hunniken recently CLICK HERE to which I have added some verifiable ammendments of fact.

Anyone wishing to compile such a dosier of facts about events or details regarding UKIP and its antics can of course with pleasure lift any articles from this and my other blogs, best accessed via the links on the Right Sidebar – you will note there was little new in The Hunniken dossier but for all that I am grateful that he could find the time to pull the documents together.

At least since my blog has been in the public domain for scrutiny as published and has been legally verified you can be assured of its accuracy as never once has anyone found a witting or willful error or misrepresentation you will be pleased to know and obviously any item is as published and in the public domain for reproduction with the usual courtesies of sourcing you are welcome to use it.

I believe the same can be said of the blog produced by the Junius team at CLICK HERE or that of the UKIP NEC elected Dr. Eric Edmond which can be found if you CLICK HERE

Anyway contrived as the publicity may be you will I’m sure enjoy Richard Watt’s blog below:

Lord Lawson invited to join UKIP after he challenges David Cameron on EU

Former chancellor at odds with prime minister as he calls for Britain to throw out further European integration altogether

Ex-chancellor Nigel Lawson

Lord Lawson of Blaby, the former chancellor, was invited to join UKIP today after he called for an ender to greater EU integration. Photograph: Martin Argles

With impeccable timing, the UKIP leader Nigel Farage today wrote to the former chancellor Lord Lawson to invite him to join his party.
Farage fired off a letter after Lawson called on David Cameron to use any future EU treaty negotiations, in the wake of the crisis in the Eurozone, to call for an end to greater European integration.
In an article in the Times, Lawson wrote:

To be precise, the notion that “more Europe” must always be promoted, that there is no acceptable end to the process of integration short of a full-blown United States of Europe, and that the watchword must always be that of “ever closer union” has to be explicitly abandoned.
And this requires not merely a declaration to that effect, but its embodiment in a full-blown constitution that sets out the entrenched and unalterable competences and responsibilities of the member states of the Union – the very reverse of what is contained in the anti-constitutional Lisbon treaty.

This is what Farage says:

Nigel Lawson has come to the conclusion that the very approach of the EU is against Britain’s interests, and is calling for the concept of ‘Ever Closer Union’ to be struck from the Treaty.
He calls for a new Constitution that makes explicit the limits of EU power. He is also wise enough to know that his proposals have not a cat in hells chance of being accepted by the other 26 countries of the European Union.
What Lord Lawson leaves unspoken is what happens when inevitably the EU rejects his idea. If the changes he calls for are not made, then Britain must reserve the right to leave the moribund European Union and strike out as a free-trading good neighbour of the European Union.

As a loyal Tory, Lawson will probably be horrified at the prospect of joining UKIP. But Farage is clever to invite Lawson to join his party because David Cameron and George Osborne will not accept the ideas outlined by the former chancellor in today’s Times.
Lawson will struggle because the prime minister and chancellor have abandoned one of the central tenets of Tory thinking over Europe over the last 20 years. This view held that Britain must fight hard to avoid the creation of what is called a “two speed Europe” – an inner group, led by Germany and France, and a more detached group led by Britain. This approach explains why John Major always left open the possibility of British membership of the euro after negotiating a British opt-out from the single currency in the 1991 Maastricht treaty.
Cameron and Osborne are making clear they would have no qualms if the 17 members of the Eurozone decide to introduce greater fiscal co-operation to underpin the single currency. This is what the chancellor wrote in the FT last month:

The eurozone…needs to demonstrate commitment to greater fiscal integration and governance arrangements that avoid moral hazard and entrench fiscal responsibility.

Some pro-Europeans regard the Cameron and Osborne’s decision to embrace a “two speed Europe” as a reckless gamble that will severely diminish British influence in the EU.
Cameron and Osborne have a ready response. They say:
• Britain, which would not be part of the new eurozone arrangements, has a vital national interest in ensuring the survival of the euro, the currency of Britain’s largest trading partners. Poor implementation of the growth and stability pact, which was meant to prevent the sort of borrowing that has inflicted such harm on Greece and Ireland, is to blame for the current crisis. Stricter rules should, goes the thinking, help prevent a repeat of the mess.
• New rules for the eurozone would present a golden opportunity for Britain. The necessary treaty changes would have to be approved by all 27 members of the EU. The prime minister told the Tory 1922 committee before the summer recess that he would use the treaty negotiations to repatriate powers in three key areas – legal rights, criminal justice and social and employment legislation. But there would be a coalition bust-up on this. Nick Clegg rejected the Cameron proposal when he said that the euro crisis was no time to demand a “pound of flesh”.
In his assault on the euro, Lawson failed to mention his support for the warm up for the single currency – the European exchange rate mechanism. The former chancellor resigned from the cabinet in 1989 after Margaret Thatcher refused to distance herself from her late economic adviser, Sir Alan Walters, after he described the ERM as “half baked”. As I blogged last month, Lawson explained to William Keegan in 2007 why he supported the ERM but not the single currency.

I must say it is sad that still these elderly political war horses are but Plastic EUroSceptics in that they almost to a man talk of reform thus redefining the true logic of EUroScepticism which in the hands of the honest make it very clear that reform is not on offer – now, in the past or ever in the future.

Can it be that they have read the treaties and honestly not understood them?

Surely after so many years climbing greasy poles they can not have become so stained with grease that they loose sight of the very thing that in the first place gave them office and then kept them thus employed.

Yes indeed a structure designed to maintain the status quo.

The only option available if we are to survive as a Nation and a people even some might say a genus is to with care withdraw from membership and with compassion assist those he realise the folly of their involvement to withdraw also.

ANY other action even the inevitable collapse of this arcane and failed experiment could all too easily end in 200,000,000 deaths across EUrope in the wars of disassociation and from the resultant famine caused by the folly of The EU which has so damaged food production with the CAP & CFP together with over regulation that for the first time in modern history EUrope can not feed itself at just the very time the damage done by EU financial policies and red tape have come together to starve us of our markets to earn the money by export to buy the very food we need – hence the invention of Carbon Credits as the new ‘Fetish’ to ward off the man made scam of Anthropogenic Global Warming.

Much as I respect the Lawsons, Tebbitts, Thatchers and some of their colleagues and predecessors it would be refreshing to hear one tell the truth and not emmulate the ‘party line’ of the politicos as Plastic EUrosceptics aiding and abetting our betrayal as Judas Goats.
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#0491* – UKIP SPIN COMING UNRAVELLED for Lack of Trustworth Spokesmen!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/05/2011

#0491* – UKIP SPIN COMING UNRAVELLED for Lack of Trustworth Spokesmen!
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UKIP SPIN COMING UNRAVELLED for Lack of Trustworth Spokesmen!
Imagine using proven liars like Mick McGough, Skeptyk and the like and little lads placed as puppets like Michael Heavers or Harry Aldridge!!

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those seeking to unravel the spin and lies of UKIP relative to the Tim Congdon luke warm support for elected leaders could serve their interest by:
CLICK HERE

Regards,
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I note Mick McGough is desperately misleading people as ever.

Todays lies so far & we even have a picture of the belly of the beast ;-):


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BARBOO,Send me an email (michael.mcgough@lineone.net ) and I’ll send you not one but two emails from Tim disproving your conspiracy theories above;it wasn’t GLW POSTING IT.

Obviously the foolish fellow can not read – firstly I did publish the selected abstracts produced as spin by the corrupt of UKIP leadership team, which is still on this blog Before and After it was removed from the UKIP designed leak. Hunt it down by all means on this blog and others.

TO DISPROVE THE CONSPIRACY MAKERS ABOVE AND THE EVER HATEFUL UNTRUTHFUL RANTS FROM THE PONYTAILED MISFIT FROM CHEPSTOW;

In all the years of lies, dishonesty, attacks and venal self interest of Mick McGough in which he has determined to lie about me and seak to defame me he has as yet not found a single solitary deliberate or consequential untruth posted by me ANYWHERE with any intent to mislead or lie to ANYONE on any subject EVER.

It is noted that Mick McGough‘s efforts to demean himself as a proven liar, cheat and low life are most clearly shown by the utter failure of his lies and dishonesty.

The sad spectacle of this obese old man can be seen hovering in the background as ever drink in hand – clearly without friends he has become all too willing to push and shove his dishonest snout into any trough brown nosing his way to anywhere for as little as the opening of an envelope as long as he can be seen and even perhaps show off and tell people of his under valued skills!

Mick McGough is a proven liar, cheat and willing to cheat his so called friends and associates a low life of no integrity, honour or probity.

AS PROVEN REPEATEDLY.

For the record in passing in some amusement My Pony Tail is not doing well confronted with high dosage cocktail chemo therapy for my cancer which I have had now for 13 years! I’ll probably lose the beard and all body hair shortly – a small sacrifice in the battle 😉

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#0490* – UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/05/2011

#0490* – UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!

The endless use of UKIP affiliates who are proven liars and low lifes who abuse and defame members and supporters of UKIP who seek honesty, integrity, morality, transparency and probity to once more ressurecy UKIP and render it fit for purpose – Leaves them without credible defence when the truth leaks out!!

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in the light of the habitual lies of both Skeptyk and also of Mick McGough which have been proven time and again, and in that they are in the habit of abusing any supporter or member of UKIP who dares to hold a different opinion – particularly those with a lengthy track record of seeking transparency and aiming to clean-up the party.

Those who hope to remove filth and liars like themselves from UKIP’s employ and leadership claque – Their comments, criticisms and attempts at defence at validation are clearly of no value nor worthy of any respect or cogniscenece.

That those who post as skeptyk are too ashamed to put their name to their lies and the style of their odious behaviour demeans UKIP more than they could ever be considered of value as with those who post as Independent UKIP or the moronic Gothmog (aka William Shaw) – not only cowardly but clearly as with the liar Stuart Parr and Mick McGough who is a placement on the NEC such scum of the earth and liars do UKIP more harm than every they may foolishly consider they aid it.

As with association with the crass, amateur and foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller and her sordid little AthenaPR agency.

The comments of Barbara Booker in response to ‘Geoffrey Collier’ a loyal and supportive member of UKIP for many years who has been frequently defamed and abused by the scum gathered in ambition around the leadership position in UKIP for his efforts to improve the Party and bring various seemingly clear theives to book where it would seem possibly many £Millions have been stolen, misappropriated or embezzled.

Ms. Bookers comments are, as ever, both reasoned and substantiated:
Geoffrey, to clarify:

When trying to check the authenticity of the Tim Congdon email, I found it did not appear on Michael Heaver’s blog as stated by skeptyk in post #1 of this thread. 

A google search brought up several references to it having been posted on 12 May, but in each case clicking the link produced: “Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog Michael Heaver’s Blog does not exist”. 

As I didn’t then know about the Blogger problem of posts being temporarily deleted (the explanation offered by Richard Allen and skeptyk), I assumed MH had removed the post himself soon after making it, probably as a result of a complaint from TC. Hence my ‘sceptical’ comment.

I now see from buzz.blogger.com that by 15 May most of the affected posts had been restored, with bloggers advised to republish any that were still missing, so when checking Michael Heaver’s blog again I expected to find the elusive Congdon email back in its place. 

Not so. MH posted three times on 15 May, twice on 16th, once on 17th and once yesterday, but still no sign of a restored or republished email from Tim Congdon. My original assumption is therefore not only unchanged, but reinforced by further consideration.

One of the google references revealed enough of Michael Heaver’s 12 May post to show that he was definitely linking Tim Congdon’s comments with what he called “the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge”. See http://www.britishblogs.co.uk/categories/nigel-farage/

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An interesting email hit my desk this morning which shows us how disagreements in the Party should be conducted. Tim Congdon, the second place UKIP leadership challenger from last year has ruled himself out of joining the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge. In his own words:Nigel has many gifts – he is an outstanding speaker and television personality. He has been elected, by a large majority, for four years. He must be supported by all party members. Should he remain leader indefinitely? Well, that is for the party to decide. At this stage I intend to throw my hat in the ring again in 2014, as I believe the party needs its centre of gravity to be in this country, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. You may forward…


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Skeptyk continues the email in post #1. 

It appears from the break in the text and the repetition of “forward this to whomever you please” that it is actually quotes from two separate emails, probably written just after Nigel Farage won the leadership election last November. 

There is no proof whatsoever that TC wrote them in connection with any recent leadership issue, and it’s my belief that someone has cobbled extracts together and recirculated them in a pretence of current support for Farage which may not exist. 

If this conclusion is incorrect, Michael Heaver should publish the email in its entirety, with date, title and name of recipient so that we can see it in context and check its authenticity.

The balance of the CLAIMED comment of Tim Congdon, as claimed by Michael Heavers and selectively quoted, as Barbara Booker states, was posted on this blog. CLICK HERE

Since Skeptyk’s posting was subsequent to the removal from Michael Heavers’ blog it is probable one of the dishonest creatures, posting as the cowardly proven liar Skeptyk, obtained the copy as posted by them on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled blog from the posting on this blog by me at CLICK HERE.

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#0476* – Amateur Hour at UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/05/2011

#0476* – Amateur Hour at UKIP
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Amateur Hour at UKIP as they take days to respond incompetently and duplicitously to an every day management problem predicted by this blog over several years!
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does this not rather typify UKIP leadership?

Marta Andreasen issued a public statement calling for the resignation of Nigel Farage on Monday.

Eventually some dweeb who has just presided over an NEC meeting where insufficient people turned up to form a quorum and they listened to an idiot making a fool of himself talking of 1,000 Councillors by 2014 after an absolutely catastrophic election that had just lived down to everyones fears of the new professionalism

Finally on Thursday a private letter from Farage’s appointee is made public when issued as a limp wristed and inadequate display of leadership on behalf of nigel Farage whose leadership ability has thus been made all too clear.

Here is the letter:

Marta Andreasen MEP
European Parliament
Strasbourg 12 May 2011
Dear Marta
As Chairman of the Party, I am writing to you to express my extreme
disappointment at your actions over the past three days.
While it is not unusual for there to be disagreements within a political party,
your public call for the resignation of the Party Leader is unacceptable.
Your comments were disloyal, not only to the Party Leader, but also to the
Party itself, which put you where you are and which elected Nigel Farage as
Leader only six months ago, with a 60% mandate.
You were also profoundly wrong in your analysis of our performance in the
recent election campaign – a campaign to which your own contribution was
not conspicuous. This is borne out by the detailed election results released
yesterday.
Your press release stated that ‘Party members and supporters are justifiably
angry’. You are right; they are absolutely livid at your behaviour. The
overwhelming – I might say unanimous – reponse I have had over the past
two days has been in support of the Leader, including from all three of the
unsuccessful candidates in last year’s Leadership election.
The Party’s members do not deserve and will not tolerate such disruption,
which can only undermine their hard work, especially from a senior member
of the Party who is enjoying the fruits of their efforts.
Any further action of this kind will be treated very seriously.
Yours sincerely
Steve Crowther, Executive Chairman
cc National Executive Committee, Press Office

Late in the day after the party has spent 3.1/2 days running around like headless chickens this smack on the wrist is unlikely to have any effect whatsoever.

We note Tim Congdon has been persuaded to provide a briefest of brief memo in support of Farage’s position as elected leader – with praise a’plenty for his abilities but a notable lack of praise of any leadership skills or ability and a strong criticism of the direction in which he is leading.

That this was provided to shore up a lad who has a reputation for underhand duplicity in his own interest and being placed as a puppet by Farage is notable – you may recall he was used to do a knife job and stab Delroy Young in the back!

They do say give a child the encouragement of an adult and they will take on the world!

Here is Tim’s damnation with feint praise as a follow on to Crowther’s ‘Naughty Girl’ letter:

Tim Congdon, the second place UKIP leadership challenger from last year has ruled himself out of joining the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge. In his own words:

Nigel has many gifts – he is an outstanding speaker and television personality. He has been elected, by a large majority, for four years. He must be supported by all party members. Should he remain leader indefinitely? Well, that is for the party to decide. At this stage I intend to throw my hat in the ring again in 2014, as I believe the party needs its centre of gravity to be in this country, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. You may forward this to whomever you please

Mr. Congdon has also said that:

Yes, the party must support its leader. As I have always said, Nigel Farage has great gifts which are invaluable to the UK Independence Party. But I will continue to argue that the centre of gravity of UKIP must be in the UK, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. Of course I support Nigel as leader, as we all must do. Please, please, forward this to whomever you please. I am again copying this to [deleted], anyway.

Let us not forget this is ‘claimed’ by Michael Heavers who has already shown himself to be untrustworthy, self serving and bought and paid for by Farage – it seems these are the extracts that suit his Master’s purposes!

The foolish little chap who only 2 blogs earlier was telling the world as a believer that UKIP was set to win 3 seats in Wales when anyone with ANY Political nouse knew damned well they had no plausible candidate, strategy, vision or tactics in Wales and would struggle to even get a few more votes let alone a seat with their idiot leadership and incompetent policy.

Yet we see the little lad trying desperately to link Marta Andreasen with some plot within UKIP, seemingly in yet another act of desperate dishonesty seeking to try to lie by inuendo as a coward and imply Marta Andreasen is acting for a group – WHO MICHAEL? Are you grown up enough to put your name to whom you were trying to besmirch and provide provenance?

I would hazard a guess he is so politically naiive he believes Roger Knapman is acting in concert with Nikki Sinclaire merely because Roger re-stated his oft made denunciation of The EU and becoming part of the problem by obliging the EU in return for money thereby prostituting the Party.

That Roger Knapman has made his comment AFTER the local elections and as the debate on the issue commences is no surprise and that he has asked a junior member of Sinclaire’s staff to act as filter for the media is hardly surprising – well he wouldn’t want a Polish workman to answer the phone at his house would he!

One drawback of Farage’s leadership is the endless promises of professionalising with absolutely no sign of doing so and criticism of people who have no experience outside politics yet he elevates children with no experience of anything as spokesman to avoid his fingerprints on every attempt and failure of management!
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#0453* – UKIP’s DESTRUCTIVE LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/05/2011

#0453* – UKIP’s DESTRUCTIVE LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM
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UKIP’s DESTRUCTIVE LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM!
IT SEEMS THE CHILDREN HAVE ESCAPED THE NURSERY!

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it was sad to see such a display of unprofessionalism from Farage’s praise singers when I noted young Harry Aldridge trying to get party brownie points at the expense of both our Country and our elected MEPs who were working, and spending their money in defence of Britain and liberty.

Here is the lads posting on UKIP Yoooof:

YI Chairman Criticises Two UKIP MEPs

As the elected Chairman of Young Independence I feel obliged to condemn the unacceptable actions of two UKIP MEPs. Mike Nattrass and Trevor Colman, by helping to fund an advert promoting a rival political candidate, have let down both themselves and more importantly UKIP members and activists up and down the country.
UKIP MEPs must be team players. They are elected on a Party ticket, the public did not vote for any one individual. It is simply not acceptable for MEPs, with an inflated view of their importance, to wield the power of their positions as if they have a direct individual mandate.
All UKIP European Election Candidates signed and agreed to the MEP Code of Conduct which committed them to “promote UKIP’s objectives as set out in the party constitution and manifestos”, “pool group funds” and “work as a team”. The actions of Trevor Colman and Mike Nattrass directly contravene the code of conduct. The promotion of a rival candidate’s campaign – a campaign that duplicates the efforts of similar non-partisan campaigns that are supported by UKIP – is not productive and nor is it fair on the UKIP activists whose time, money and shoe leather won them their seats.
The public want to see a productive political party that is mature and able to work towards the common cause. This is something I take seriously. Discord is tiresome and off-putting to young members and harms our ability to capitalise on the best levels of public support the party has ever seen.
Members from around the country have expressed their upset and disgust at today’s advert and the actions of these MEPs. It is the branches and activists who feel directly the impact of their decisions.
They are acting as individuals, not as team players. Quite plainly if they seek to continue to work for themselves and not for UKIP’s cause then I sincerely hope that they are deselected as candidates at the next available opportunity.
UKIP needs committed individuals as MEPs who can provide the British public with a united radical opposition that they can support. That is what I and others in YI and the wider Party will continue to work towards.
Harry Aldridge
Chairman, Young Independence

One might have been a little more impressed had he not been weenie waggling in the most childish and un professional manner obviously way out of his depth and with UKIP lacking any credible leadership.

Perhaps, as he pretends to IT skills, he could have better serve the cause by updating some of the UKIP web sites – not least of which would be UKIP Yoooof  where he will note it is sop out of date it implies he has usurped the position of chairman from the other member trying to lick his way to a career in politics without the flair or charisma it used to take!

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whatever happened to Lisa Duffy wasn’t she the party official children’s bottom wiper and shelf stacker in charge of toys?
Then shortly after his fatuous posting on UKIP Yooof we find young Harry flexing his wee muscles amongst the adults on UKIP Forum and making more of a fool of himself:

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I’ve published a statement on this as YI Chairman. I’m afraid it needs to be said.

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As the elected Chairman of Young Independence I feel obliged to condemn the unacceptable actions of two UKIP MEPs. Mike Nattrass and Trevor Colman, by helping to fund an advert promoting a rival political candidate, have let down both themselves and more importantly UKIP members and activists up and down the country.

***CUT as insecure repetition****

Shortly after we find he has not been noticed by enough people so he posts on the unofficial UKIP controlled Forum of Anthony Butcher’s under a pseudonym:

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Junior Member Kitto is just starting out Join Date Oct 2010 Posts 31

Let us ponder where next he may hope to be noticed in his anti British pro Farage sycophancy – How about the toe curlingly embarrassing Mrs. Dale’s Diary, ever willing to cosy up to Farage as noted in the past or will it be a last desperate attempt to discredit himself by posting his unprofessional boot lick on Stuart Parr’s dishonest little boot lick site – lies and all at bloggers4ukip

Is there no one in UKIP with the slightest political instinct – is there no self control, we know there is no leadership but this is just making a mockery of the party at the very worst time.

One can hardly be surprised that UKIP has managed to have LESS than 30 political offices in the public sector filled out of around 19,500 available.

Yes UKIP will do a little better in the upcoming local elections the ironic point being their gains will largely be at the expense of The Lib.Dims. this time and for the most bizarre of reasons – Lib.Dim. voters will be registering a protest vote against their two EU funded ex MEPs Nick Clegg & Huhne who have betrayed the Lib.Dim. electorate (one should not overlook the economic illiteracy of their trained theorist Vincent Cable who might well be advised to repair to his skill zone as a dance!).

The other area of protest is that The Lib.Dims. (there are only three aren’t there!) are completely out of step with the electorate on the issue of AV.

How ironic when Farage was elected to lead a largely Libertarian (in as far as UKIP understands the concept) Party espousing Leave-The-EU and promptly betrayed the electorate and the members by plunging into bed with a group of racist extremists, xenophobes, anti Jewish and violent anti homosexual foreign politicians in a sell out in return for money by espousing and supporting a pro EU membership stance and the Reforming ideals with more centralised EU controls as with Derek Clark MEP, Marta Andreasen (Spanish) MEP, Stuart Agnew (NFU) MEP, David Bannerman (anybody’s) MEP, Willian Dartmouth MEP etc.

You will note that UKIP will make gains at Lib.Dim. expense on the protest vote and the further irony is that Farage is as out of step over AV as is Nick Clegg all be it for different and dim reasons (I say dim as he has failed to convince his own party let alone the public at large).

Politics and political thought does rather seem to be beyond UKIP and as for the level of ill disciplined unprofessionalism that lets idiots like little Harry Aldrich and Michael Havers loose to so clearly damage the party it is staggering – that is not to gain say the irrefutable fact that within the squabbling ranks of UKIP there will be many too stupid to even realise their own stupidity.

If you are still in ANY doubt as to the unprofessional incompetence of UKIP just follow their MEPs around for a few days as the meeeeja do!

Alternatively try debate on a point they disagree with or even consider the rank stupidity of fielding a school girl to front for UKIP as Mayoral candidate in Leicester about which I note Barbara Booker had the last clear word as is so often the case, when she said:

There was a young lady of Leicester
Whose A-level studies obsessed her,
No time to prepare
Her campaign for Mayor . . .
To stand, what could have possessed her?

By the by here is the pro British Patriotic advertisement, which could well have been badged to UKIP if Farage had not betrayed the electorate and with the rump of UKIP that he has not over the years driven away leaped into bed with his extremist EFD Group:

 Great isn’t it and to clear up a few points of confussion for those in UKIP who are clearly unaware of much going on around them:

01. Nigel Farage MEP is NOT a member of the EU Referendum Pledge Campaign run and managed by James Pryor and Bridget Rowe for the members and primary patron Tony Blackwell and Jon Gaunt is the media spokesman. Unlike UKIP the peoples pledge for an EU Referendum campaign IS NOT run by or for the benefit of politicians as it was they who got us into this mess as members of The EU.

02. Paul Nuttall was invited to assist but does seem to be making as much noise as a giraffe – possibly controlled by Farage!

03. The Petition for an EU Referendum is a separate entity founded and launched by Nikki Sinclaire at her own expense at Easter last year though increasingly active from September.

04. Dan Hannan’s ‘Judas Goat’ operation was set up when he was blocked from controlling the EU Pledge – an idea he then tried to destroy by diluting it for personal gain. He was encouraged by various socialist extremists to try to embarrass The Tory initiative.

05. Mike Nattrass & Trevor Colman now that they are liberated from the odious Pan EU Political EFD Group have opted to act in the interest of Britain and help Nikki Sinclaire promote The Petition for an IN/OUT EUreferendum.

06. The Petition for an IN/OUT EUreferendum and The EU Referendum Pledge Campaign are working in co-operation for the Patriotic benefit of these United Kingdoms.

07. IF YOU are a genuine Patriot and wish to help liberate these United Kingdoms from the thrall of vassal status in The EU may I suggest find out more and how YOU can help CLICK HERE

Since it is clear UKIP have no ability to professionalise and are clearly squabbling like ferrets in a sack as they jokey for positions at the troughs on the gravy train and sice clearly they have no sign of a competent leader – though to be fair Nigel Farage is at most times a consumate performer, without the guidance he so clearly needs and firm leadership from a grown up he will sadly continue to be divisive driving out anyone of competence who he fears might rival him and for ever piling dung ever higher to try to give credibitlity to his strutting and crowing.

That ain’t leadership and as a result of the dross gathered around Farage the party is clearly unfit for purpose.

Yes as a part it will survive as it is of so little long term consequence and of such great value to both The Tories and The EU no one will bother to sink it – any effort to expose the corruption is met with the most unprofessional howls from those feeding on that corruption in one way or another!

It is hard to find reason to disagree with this comment from The Blogosphere:

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I believe NF is simply astute – he knows what is best for him and is the enemy within. Whether UKIP is managed through NF by Thatcherites within the Tory Party or NF had chosen, personally, not to be successful in domestic politics because he did not want the Tories to fail at GEs matters not a jot – because the outcome is the same.

The bottom line is that UKIP is not like other political parties in the sense that others simply want to be as successful as possible, irrespective of the impact on other parties. Once the Tory dimension is acknowledged, at any time some apparently irrational decision might be made by NF which will set the Party back or in a different direction.

These will be unfathomable to serious members, simply because they not aware of the details of this Tory influence – a recipe for continuous and continuing frustration for serious and loyal members.

Unlike the childish self serving bottom wiping by Harry Aldridge that so palpably smacks of a self important child
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