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as clearly predicted by this blog and after chats with The Junius Team and other informed commentators on UKIP we have largely and increasingly iognored UKIP as a demeaned and debased irrelevance in politics.
One UKIP sock puppet too ashamed to put his name to his postings has on a UKIP controlled Forum stated:
UKIP moved from a poor fifth place on 2%, up to a fourth place on 5.5%, and only 88 votes behind Liberals in third place. You must admit that is progress. Give credit where credit is due.
So UKIP are pleased then! They received a whole 10% of the vote needed to win!
Consider:
Orville and Wright are attributed with the first flight – who was the second, let alone 4th.?
Roger Bannister ran the first under 4 minute mile – who ran the second let alone the 4th.?
Can ANYONE name 3 athletes who came 4th. in the China Olympics or 3rd. in the Australian Olympics or 2nd. in the 100 yards at the 1936 Olympics?
After 20 years of incompetent leadership, lack of strategy, p[oor management, absence of focus and crass antics UKIP are still also rans – hence regular commentators publishing the facts and the irrefutable and substantiated truth about UKIP such as Junius, Dr. Richard North and myself atre publoshing less and less about UKIP as clearly they are a sideshow of little or no consequence standing in the way of the emergence of a EUroRealist Party of any credibility.
Astonishing as it may be UKIP have never ONCE in 1,000s of posts about UKIP been able to show that either myself or the Junius team have published a single factual inaccuracy of any consequence and have done all we can to provide the truth – at our own cost whilst UKIP has milked the tax payers for literally £Millions even resorting to fraud and lies to enrich themselves in the most unprofessional and un British way imaginable!
Nepotism, false accounting, lies, smear tactics, bullying, fraud, false witness, exageration, money laundering, prostitutes, prison, self enrichment, dishonesty and corruption are all well placed in the lexicon of activities of UKIP leadership and its parasites and sock puppets.
I do not claim politicians of real political parties do not on occasion behave similarly but for this to be manifest in such a small clique and their claque over 20 years shows just how unfit for purpose UKIP has become.
The full results:
- Seema Malhotra, Labour – 12,639
- Mark Bowen, Conservative – 6,436
- Roger Crouch, Liberal Democrats – 1,364
- Andrew Charalambous, UKIP – 1,276
- David Furness, BNP – 540
- Daniel Goldsmith, Green – 426
- Roger Cooper, English Democrats – 322
- George Hallam, London People Before Profit – 128
- David Bishop, Bus-Pass Elvis Party – 93
Consider the comments of Dr. Richard North:
My former co-editor is less than charitable about the failure of UKIP to displace the Lib-dims and come away with third place in the Feltham and Heston by-election. Forum members here also question UKIP’s abilities, if it cannot even motivate enough people to vote for it under the current circumstances.
When UKIP itself admits, according to diverse media sources, to losing out to The Boy’s pretend veto, and we see the party’s less then sure response to it, it is time to ask whether continued support is a waste of time and energy, as it repeatedly fails to register beyond the euro-elections.
We have long asserted that the main problem with UKIP is its lack of intellectual base, having observed that all successful revolutionary parties in the past have always gone through the motions of producing a intellectual “credo”, sufficient to unite and motivate its members, and attract popular support.
The lack is very obvious when you think that there are no end of discussion on the nature and meaning of conservatism, of socialism, and on the “liberal” ideology – but no one would think to ask: “what is UKIPism”. It simply does not exist, other than in a negative sense, a campaign uniting some of those who want the UK to leave the UK.
After all these years, however, we have failed to impress on the party that you cannot create a mass movement on the back of a negative. It is unlikely that anyone who had started a campaign in the past to leave the Austro-Hungarian Empire would have had any more success than UKIP is having now.
Yet, now has never been a better time to sell the eurosceptic (i.e., leaving the EU) message, and it would be a criminal dereliction to allow the Tory europlastics to grab the high ground and exploit anti-EU sentiment for their own electoral gain.
To that effect, I recall in 1999 (I think it was then, but I am happy to be corrected) attending a series of quo vadis meetings, to discuss the way forward.
Nothing long-term came of them – and we are perhaps seeing the result. So it maybe time to repeat the experiment and gather together interested parties to see whether there is a common, positive ideology that could unite us all, and provide a standard around which the disaffected of this nation can muster.
It is early days yet, but maybe we should be looking at the New Year, pulling together some of the leading eurosceptic activists, in public meetings, to see what comes of another series of quo vadis meetings. Whatever else, we cannot continue like this. We need to win … and that we are not doing.
I am fed up with being on the losing side.
EU Referendum: We need to win
Or the views of JUNIUS:
Friday, 16 December 2011
UKIP bomb in by-election
It was all so predictable. Farage’s useful idiots pick a joke candidate who likes to call himself ‘Dr Earth’. Farage and his cronies visit the constituency, hold meetings and claim that UKIP is surging ahead in the polls. Voters are told that UKIP is set to replace the Lib Dems as Britain’s third party.“It has always been our intention to make UKIP the ‘third party’ in British politics and these poll results certainly suggest that we are heading in the right direction.”
“We’ve made such fantastic inroads in Feltham & Heston so far in this short campaign, now we need to firm up that support and continue to spread the message,” he said.
“After the events in Europe this week, it’s clear that the real debate about Britain’s continued membership of the EU is still to begin and UKIP’s message is central to that, so people are listening.
“We have a great candidate in Andrew Charalambous and a tremendous team co-ordinating the campaign, now we need more feet on the streets to help them.”
Nigel Farage
Leaflets are distributed and Farage basks in the adulation of his sycophants. He tells them that UKIP is on the way to Westminster………
Another glass of wine, Mr Farage?
And then the eager party faithful gather for the result. UKIPPERS are visibly shocked to hear that they have been knocked into fourth place by the Lib Dems. And this was DESPITE Farage’s assurances that Clegg’s party was going to be humiliated by UKIP.UKIP scored a pathetic 5.49% on the day. And Labour’s vote went up! And yet Farage’s useful idiots still try to spin a terrible result.
“It is becoming increasingly clear that UKIP is a refreshing alternative to the tired old status quo. The Lib Dems are almost a busted flush. People are turning to UKIP as they realise we are serious when it comes to putting Britain first.” From the official UKIP website.We hardly think that Cameron or Clegg will be too concerned by such claptrap. UKIP has been in existence for 17 years and yet they have still failed to get a single person election to Westminster in all that time. And let’s not forget that their councillors (elected as UKIP) could fit in a small village hall!
UKIP exists solely as the means for Farage and his sycophants to get elected to the EU Gravy Train. Nothing more, nothing less. UKIP is the Nigel Farage Party.
UKIP is a spent force. We have said so on numerous occasions. And so has GLW in his blogs. See our post from November which points out that UKIP has about as much chance of getting MPs as the odious Paul Nuttall has of growing hair. LINK
I believe the point is made!
Clearly this blog and its predecessor ‘CaterpillarsAndButterflies’ and the many other blogs I write seek to inform and provide the facts – I am pleased to say in the many 1,000s of articles I have openly put my name to and for which I can be held to account and responsible I have NEVER ONCE made a consequential error – I have corrected any minor detail (On 4 occasions) that have been brought to my attention within hours and EVERY fact has been substantiated – if only UKIP had the same integrity they would not need to use ingrates and anonimity to hide their lies and their smear tactics!
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