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#0216* – UKIP, The Vile, The Venal, The Racists & The EFD Trash + Michal Kaminski!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/12/2010

#0216* – UKIP, The Vile, The Venal, The Racists & The EFD Trash + Michal Kaminski!!!
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UKIP, The Vile, The Venal, The Racists & The EFD Trash + Michal Kaminski!!
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Based upon Junius’ usual track record of accuracy and at very worst efforts to ensure they tell the truth, as does this blog – as has been made very clear recently with my corrections of the comments of the venal and vile liar Mick McTrough of UKIP’s NEC CLICK HERE & the posting of a very minor correction, in the form of additional information at the prompting of the cowardly comments of the ever flatulent Independent UKIP  on Butcher’s squalid Forum, as ever acting as a platform for liars and anti UKIPpers like Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Annabell Fuller, Mike McTrough, Baron von Idiot, Independent UKIP and their ilk endlessly dragging UKIP into their gutter with its leader, leadership and parasites who clearly feel comfortable with their snouts in the trough.

It was the very fact that Junius team are all too readily willing to correct an error and their posting regarding Michal Kaminski carefully says little that I set out to check.

Here are Junius’ thoughts on the subject, presumably based upon what they have heard within The EU’s corridors of shame or at the very least the back passages of the pleasure dome! From whence comes the stories of UKIP MEPs tripping home at 3am with their black male pickups, their assaults on women, their urinating in hotel corridors and their total political irrelevance.

Monday, 13 December 2010

UKIP: More Fascists to join the EFD


Michael Kaminski is the controversial Polish MEP who has torn apart the ECR group – to which the British Conservatives belong – in the European Parliament. It would appear that as a result of this, 11 members of the far-right Polish Law & Justice Party are now set to join UKIP’s EFD group.

Farage will, of course, see this as extra money coming in. UKIP members, however, may ask what this means for our party.

What next, Nigel, the BNP?

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Interested and having heard that Michal Kaminski had distanced himself from his party – the extremist, anti Jewish, sexually intollerant Polish Law & Justice Party and having followed Edward McMillan-Scott’s wanderings in the EU playpen I had opted to await developements!

Junius has rather upped the ante by leaking information to UKIP members that should surely have been given to them by the leadership, even if only to have a pretence of professionalism for as we all know those rosy promises from Farage went down the toilet as fast as the last time he made them.

It seems Farage puts as much value on his political promises as he does on his marriage vows! Then again at £30K Kirsten no doubt treats him as her trough with the distain he treats UKIP members both turning a blind eye to integrity and promises in return for money.

I read an interesting summary of UKIP and why they have not nor are ever likely to go anywhere in terms of liberating these United Kingdoms – although there is much merit in the document which pulls together many of the loose ‘tales’ of UKIP I find fault with its anti Jewish content which I consider to be not only wrong but tasteless and unfair on Judaism though that could merely be a result of the Zionist propaganda machine’s determination to con people into the belief that Zionism is in some way Jewish!

I will try to ascertain the veracity of the document and clarify the distortions which I believe are nothing more than cupidity to the propaganda! Next we will have some bufoon trying to convince us all that the background to UKIP is foretold in ‘The Prophecies of The Elders of Zion’ assured that there will be enough fools in UKIP to fall for that unpleasant piece of Russian propaganda (sadly there probably are!) it does sadly fit, as a party, most naturally with the vile, the sweepings and the gutter trash of politics one need only look at its leadership and parasites and note their partners in the Pan EU Political Party EFD Grouping and note the efforts to start the new Pan EU Alliance which many of The EFD have joined, as has Godfrey Bloom.

Be minded it is the filth that is The EFD that Mark Croucher acted as media spokesman and PR for with their anti Jewish, Holocaust denying faction and violent racist xenophobia, matched by the violence of their sexual intollerance – all certain bed fellows of UKIP and it would seem The Polish Law & Justice Party – where in fact this leaves Michal Kaminski I shall leave you to ponder until I have additional information and better leaks than Mossad & The American Government might have offered Julian Assange!

Conservatives’ EU alliance in turmoil as Michał Kamiński leaves ‘far right’ party

Polish leader of European Conservatives and Reformists quits his party, saying it is becoming too extreme, in embarrassment for Tories
  • guardian.co.uk, Monday 22 November 2010 11.30 GMT
  • Michal Kaminski 
     

    Photograph: Martin Argles

    Michał Kamiński: 
    ‘I cannot accept that my party is being taken over by the far right.’

    David Cameron’s alliance in the European parliament is falling apart after the group’s Polish leader left his own party because it was too rightwing and then faced calls from fellow members to step down.
    Michał Kaminski, the Polish leader of the European Conservative and Reformists group, announced that he had left Poland’s Law and Justice party, Cameron’s main ally in Europe, because it had been taken over by extremists.
    Fellow MEPs in the alliance have told the Guardian that Kaminski should step down as leader of the ECR because he no longer has a mandate to lead. The developments are a major embarrassment for the prime minister and William Hague, the foreign secretary. They took the party into an alliance with the Law and Justice party in July 2009. Kaminski told the Sunday Telegraph :”I cannot accept that my party is being taken over by the far right, and being dominated by the far right. I don’t like the direction Law and Justice is going so I’m going my own way now.” Two other MEPs have also indicated they will leave Law and Justice. Others are expected to follow in the wake of local elections in Poland in which Law and Justice came second with 27% of the vote, against 34% for Civic Platform, the governing party. Kaminski wishes to maintain his role as head of the ECR, but two MEPs from Law and Justice told the Guardian that he ought to leave the post. Jacek Kurski, a one-time ally of Kaminski’s, said he would support a move to ask Kaminski to step aside. “I expect that it will be pointed out to the alliance of parties that something must change following these [Kaminski’s] comments.” There must be a change to consolidate our group. It is not my responsibility to do that. But I would welcome it,” he said. Kurski also accused Kamiński of “rebranding” himself for European politics. “If there’s anybody who is extreme, it is Michał Kamiński. He is doing his best to realign himself but he is the one who made homophobic comments and was once closely connected to the far right in Poland,” he said. Another Polish MEP told the Guardian: “Kamiński will have to go. Otherwise, the alliance will have to be redrawn. He is the worst type of politician because he changes with the wind,” he said. Dr Rafal Pankowski, author of The Populist Radical Right in Poland and an expert in extremist activity, said that the Conservatives could well find that the remaining Law and Justice Party now turned further to the right. “I agree with Kamiński’s description of Law and Justice as going in a far-right direction. Law and Justice had been a very controversial party even before, but now it seems to be moving decidedly to the radical right. It was illustrated on 11 November this year when some of its MPs supported a radical nationalist skinhead march in Warsaw,” he said. The split has provoked fierce infighting within the ECR because Kamiński remains the group’s leader, a source of resentment to his former colleagues in Law and Justice, known as PIS in Poland. Kaminski wishes to keep his role as leader of the ECR group. Senior British Conservatives fear that the turmoil could tear the ECR apart if Kamiński tries to retain control of the ECR and as some Tories take sides in the row between the Polish factions. The issue is expected to dominate elections for a new Conservative leader in the European parliament next Tuesday. Martin Callanan, one of the MEPs standing for the leadership of the Conservative MEPs, said: “I have not had a chance to speak to Michał about this. I don’t want to say anything. I don’t know what’s happening.” The prime minister’s decision last year to leave the mainstream European People’s party to align with Law and Justice provoked controversy and led to the expulsion of a senior Tory MEP who accused the Polish party of harbouring racists and antisemites. The row is deeply embarrassing to Cameron because if Law and Justice were to leave the Conservative grouping it would fall apart – but keeping the link with the Polish party is now even more sensitive now that Kamiński has described it as “far right”. Edward McMillan-Scott, who is now a Liberal Democrat MEP after being kicked out of the Conservatives for his opposition to the alliance with Law and Justice, said: “I think the whole thing is unravelling. It again highlights Cameron’s massive strategic error in abandoning the mainstream for a fragile alliance with extremists.” Kamiński, along with other former Law and Justice MEPs, has now aligned himself with a new political group in Poland comprised of party rebels. The party was formed last week following growing dissatisfaction within the ranks of Law and Justice ranks over the direction and leadership of Jarosław Kaczyński, the former prime minister and twin brother of President Lech Kaczyński, who was killed in an air crash in Russia in April. James Holtum, the spokesman for European Conservatives, said: “Law and Justice is still led by Jaroslaw Kaczyński, who was the leader when we joined the group, and it is still a mainstream party in Poland. “The divisions in Law and Justice are an internal matter, and we don’t comment on such things.” At present, the ECR has 54 MEPs. If the number drops below 50 MEPs because of the Law and Justice split, it would severely threaten the group’s chances of securing parliamentary committee chairs. The shadow Europe minister, Wayne David, said: “The Conservatives are in complete disarray in the European Parliament. “It was inevitable this grouping would begin to fall apart, so it is a very worrying sign of the prime minister’s poor judgement that he has failed to act and take the Tories back into the EPP before this point. “Instead they remain in an isolated group, sitting with in Nick Clegg’s words, a ‘bunch of nutters [and] homophobes’. Rather than occupying a position of influence, the Conservatives are isolated and irrelevant,” he said.

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#0215* – The Standard of Intelligence of UKIP NEC Member Mick McTROUGH!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/12/2010

#0215* – The Standard of Intelligence of UKIP NEC Member Mick McTROUGH!!
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The Standard of Intelligence of UKIP NEC Member Mick McTROUGH!

A RUNT of a PERSONALITY!

The LIAR & CHEAT WHO BETRAYED UKIP!

CLAIMING TO BE THE ELECTED PPC for HARLOW 

& attacking UKIP members who exposed his dishonourable behaviour!
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perhaps this dishonest and corrupt liar and fool Mick McGough can present a fact or two that makes him seem a little more grown up than just repeating his lies and distortions like a playground bully.

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    I see the homophobe racist with the nancy’s hairstyle is now ranting against Israel.
    Whatever next–promoting political assassination–oops I forgot he’s already done that.
    Well he at least admits to using an affectation with his use of lance hyphen.
    Perhaps he’s aashamed of association with his dad because his dad fought the Germans.


    What this silly sordid little liar McGough keeps on making a fool of himself with such comments for one has to wonder – it so demeans him and more worrying it damages UKIP to see a liar, a cheat and a member of their NEC parading himself as just an immature and insecure name caller.

    I am not nor have I ever been what he so glibly calls a ‘homophobe’ in his Politically Correct new speak. It is just an easy label for a coward and a liar like the odious little man to hurl around.

    McGough who cheated on all his friends to get onto the MEP list and lied about having been selected as a PPC for Harlow lacks the common decency to even understand embarrassment at his shamefull behaviour and would seem to think he can deflect the truth that he is a worm of a man utterly without integrity by clamouring loudly about others.
    For details and proof of Mike McGough’s shamefull dishonesty CLICK HERE

    Being in my 60s it is a long time since I heard small children name calling – if it pleases this fool to behave like a child then so be it.
    On the one hand he makes false accusations about homophobia yet displays his own sexual prejudices for all to see – poor sad little failure that he is. Yep I’ve got a pony tail and I have had one for over 30 years – clearly unlike McGough I have no need nor do I care what gutter opinions are of me, obviously such matters concern McGough in the gutter of his mind.

    I presume the comments about Israel, Zionism, Judaism and Palastine passed him by but then he does display a very confined horizon and is it seems unlikely to have much experience of living in foreign countries.
    Perhaps the more intelligent readers would try to explain to this nasty little man the essence of what I wrote displaying the overt and unpleasant racism of UKIP that clearly he was unable to comprehend CLICK HERE
    The degree of racism as with the level of obscene dishonesty, corruption and lies amongst UKIP’s leadership and its parasites is clear for all to see CLICK HERE or HERE – The weak, venal and gutless behaviour of UKIP’s leadership is typified HERE
    Perhaps this dishonest and gutless creep of slime Mick McGough would care, with integrity, to show where I have EVER advocated Political Assassination or Assassination of ANYONE for political gain or reason – McGough is a liar and a fraud but most despicably he is a coward and a cheat.
    That the sad little failure tries to make an issue of the fact that I have always used a hyphen in my name and always pointed out it is nothing more than an affectation linking a prename with a surname – SO WHAT? Unlike David Bannerman I did not do it to defraud, cheat and profit – which I believe is a criminal action.
    A more idiotic and childish comment than his tasteless abuse in the last line of his posting one would have need to go a long way to find – well perhaps not so far when one has dishonest insecure filth like Mike McGough to hand and all too often UKIP has or some other piece of pond life even those too ashamed to put their name to their comments. 
    Clearly McGough has no reputation to protect! How right he is the sad sick twisted & dishonest little pervert.
    May I also take the liberty of pointing out to the fool that who or what I am does not alter one iota of FACT which I regularly post on my many blogs and various Forums – Further I have no wish to be elected to any office nor to represent anyones’ views, values and opinions other than my own which I am not only happy to put my name to but also to defend rigorously.
    One such view and opinion is that by my values and beliefs Mike McGough is beneath contempt and does absolutely nothing but damage UKIP by his presence and his lack of integrity and standards. A traitor to our Country.
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    #0195* – Mick McTROUGH HAS PROVED A MOST APPOSITE NAME FOR UKIP’s Mike McGOUGH.

    Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/11/2010

    #0195* – Mick McTROUGH HAS PROVED A MOST APPOSITE NAME FOR UKIP’s Mike McGOUGH!
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    Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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    The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
    their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
    is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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    Mick McTROUGH HAS PROVED A MOST APPOSITE NAME FOR UKIP’s Mike McGOUGH!
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    what a sad reflection on the filth that form UKIP’s NEC under Farage – I note I am lied about and defamed by the proven liar, fraud and cheat Mick McTrough.

    Rather similar to the wonderfull parliamentary soubriquette of being ‘Savaged by a wet sheep’.

    The responsible maturity of this egregious piece of filth Mick McTrough speaks volumes of UKIP and its position in the vangaurd of EUroScepticism – the few decent folk left in UKIP must be so ashamed of the obvious collapse of the party into such a lack of competence and integrity when all its vile executives can do is lie, defame and mount dishonest ad hominem attacks like spoilt children thwarted.

    How proud a party of their ilk must be to read the bile filled ranting of a deranged member of their executive!

    Greasy Loony Big Girl’s Ponytail Whatshefor wo is closely associated with the juniarse crowd is homophobic.He was so desperate to let me know that his ‘partner’ LEE was female he phoned me especially, which I found most touching.This contrasts with his grooming of young ex UKIP no marks such as book stamper TIM (nasty and dim).

    ps whtever did happen to the sums collected by the Major in support of Tim’s bus fares?.
     

    Be minded that Mick McTrough has been proven beyond any shadow of doubt to be a liar, a bully, a cheat and without any understanding of morality or ethics.

    I care not what the fools says about me as I am not in any way material – I merely act as a commentator – I do not seek either his praise or his vote – nor do I function on his largess nor money scrounged from a membership – this oik Mick McTrough is a liar and shows himself to be yet again – demeaning UKIP as ever!

    Perhaps McTrough if he werte to lift his snout from the gains as a parasite of the gravy train might care to place in the public domain his provenance and recording of the phone call he claims I made for the sole purpose of establishing that my partner of 25 years standing was female. Mick McTrough is a liar as I couldn’t care less what filth like he believe.

    Ever the coward we note McTrough who even lied about being UKIP elected PPC for Harlow to con members of the party into voting for him in the corrupt and rigged selection process in his greed to become noticed on the ladder to the troughs for an MEP.

    Mick McTrough‘s dishonesty was so notable the UKIP Officially appointed Returning Officer advocated a re-run of the selection and vote as he had so materially corrupted the process with others – To read the denouncement of McTrough CLICK HERE
    For more details of this revolting little man CLICK HERE – Filth isn’t he and he represents UKIP in much the same style of dishonesty and fancifull lies as Douglas Denny, also sadly befouling UKIP’s NEC – A shamefull little liar and cheat who was so discreditted he was dumped by the majority of the UKIP NEC in a vote for his dishonesty and efforts to corrupt an internal election for Nigel Farage.

    Perhaps this piece of filth Mick McTrough would care to show where I have EVER made a single statement or taken a single action that justifies his politically correct claims that I am in any way homophobic. I actively campaigned in the 1960s for the decriminalisation of the perversions of homosexuality witjhin the framework of law for their decency and protection.

    I have NEVER opposed the legalisation and subsequent legality of the perversion of homosexuality protected within the framework of law, at any time in my life.

    Mick McTrough is a liar but is unlikely to have sufficient self respect to withdraw his lies and apologise.

    Let us conside what this offensive failed little man then goes on to demean UKIP by ionvolving them in as an executive of the Farage Fan Club – His side swipe at Tim – one wonders if Tim has ever asked him for anything that might justify his playground bullying.

    This excrescence of humanity who quite typically has deliberately leaked confidential correspondence with Gerard Batten that he dishonestly accessed – to further demean UKIP now we note seeks to defame Major Warry who has done more for UKIP let alone our Country than filth like McTrough have ever or could ever do. As a point of interest perhaps he would define when Major warry ever collected money for Tim. If he is trying to conflate Tim with John West might it not be more apposite to show his provenance and have more integrity to state his claim.

    The cowardly little filth opts for a schneid remark based upon no fact.

    Had he stated he meant the monies raised to assist John West in his attempts to obtain justice – anyone who donated to that fund for Justice can most clearly hold their head up with dignity unlike filth like McTrough who were happy to see an individual lied about, defamed and abused and even in McTrough‘s case join in the bullying to buy favour with the filth that are the so called leadership of UKIP.

    To that question had McTrough had the integrity and courage to ask it the answer seems simple – How much or what it was used for is absolutely none of your grubby cowardly business just as it is none of anyone elses business who gave money or how much. That John West won his case against UKIP in Court – that Peter Reeve & Jonathan Arnott were shown for the low life fools they are is sufficient provenance that the fund was well spent.

    That UKIP was censured by the Information Commissioner under Data Protection Laws speaks volumes of how unfit UKIP and its leadership are for public office of ANY description.

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    #0129* – UKIP + EFD = Fully Funded EUthenasia for UKIP. EUkip REBORN!

    Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/09/2010

    #0129* – UKIP + EFD = Fully Funded EUthenasia for UKIP. EUkip REBORN!
    Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!
    The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
    their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
    is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

    UKIP + EFD = Fully Funded EUthenasia for UKIP. 

    EUkip REBORN!

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    Hi,

    Recently you will have seen cautionary information regarding UKIP being duped regarding Pan EU Political Parties and selling out their principles and Steve Allison whom this blog cautioned against as Farage’s man in disguise re. the NEC Election as with Mick McTrough, Elizabeth Burton and others whose presence on the NEC as puppets and muppets brings UKIP into disrepute.

    We also cautioned regarding Steve Allison as inappropriate as Campaign Manager for Tim Congdon’s leadership bid.

    Older, Wiser, Sadder

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    Position in UKIP: NEC member 2010 – 2013
    UKIP Branch: Sedgefield
    Full Name: Steve Allison
    Posts: 252

    How very apposite – I wonder howmany other people will be Older, Wiser & Sadder having permitted people like McTrough, Duffy, Denny, Allison, Williams, Curtis, Clark, Burton, Batten, Smith, Croucher, Wood (Malcol), Andreasen seize control to ensure it remains the Farage Fan Club at the cost of UKIP Principles, values, manners and ethics.


    For those who wish to know the facts and avoid the spin you may care to commence, before reading on, to CLICK HERE or CLICK HERE and HERE and also HERE 

    I am heavily reliant for quotes below on Wikipedia which I show in Green, for Barbara Booker aka Barboo which I show in blue, any comments by UKIP members I show in purple – I hope this makes the post easier to follow.

    In consideration of UKIP forming a Pan EU Political Party as The EFD or similar – which, particularly in the light of Derek Clark’s betrayal of Britain and Andreasen’s disinterest in Britain working for Spain and herself and Farage’s speech in Berlin at the Reinbeckhalle on Saturday (for details CLICK HERE).
    With comprehensive details and text + Pictures CLICK HERE

    So let us consider the difficulties which for starters include the concept that to gain back Tax Payers’ money from The EU any elected Party MUST decide to form a Pan EU Political Party – Thus not just strengthening The very enemy they seek to dismantle but in democratic terms fore-swearing their rights of free speech and self determination as they MUST – having first jumped through the malign EU Hoop next accept INSTRUCTION on how they may spend the money!

    Controversy

    Europarty funding goes to Europarties and stays with Europarties: the funding cannot be used for the funding of other political parties and in particular national political parties.[8] National political parties disinclined from joining Europarties are thereby disadvantaged.[18] 25 Members of the European Parliament petitioned the European Court of Justice, arguing that this contravened the EU’s stated values of pluralism and democracy. The case was rejected after eighteen months.[19][20] A closely related case fought by the French Front National, the Italian Lega Nord, and the Belgian Vlaams Blok (now Vlaams Belang) was appealed[21] and rejected.[22]

    Clearly there are many reasons to fore-swear the malign diktat of the central dictator committee’s bribes – that they are bribes would of course be reason enough to the principled and reject the entire concept for honourable men and women, but they are bribes and we are talking about self serving politicians!

    Regulations

    As of 1 November 2008, the regulation governing Europarties is Regulation (EC) No 2004/2003 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 4 November 2003,[8] as later amended[9] under codecision (see above). According to that regulation’s European Commission factsheet,[10] for a party to become a Europarty it must meet the following criteria:
    • it must have legal personality in the Member State in which its seat is located.
    • it must observe the founding principles of the European Union, namely the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.
    • it must have participated, or intend to participate, in elections to the European Parliament.
    • it must have in at least one quarter of the Member States, one or both of the following:
    • either it must have received at least 3% of the votes cast in each of those Member States at the most recent European Parliament elections.
    • or it must already be represented by Members, whether Members of the European Parliament for those states, or Members of the national Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional Assemblies of those states.
    • it must publish its revenue and expenditure annually.
    • it must publish a statement of its assets and liabilities annually.
    • it must provide a list of its donors and their donations exceeding €500.
    • it must not accept anonymous donations.
    • it must not accept donations exceeding €12,000 per year and per donor.
    • it must not accept donations from the budgets of political groups of the European Parliament.
    • it must not accept more than 40% of a national political party’s annual budget.
    • it must not accept donations from any company over which the public authorities may exercise a dominant influence, either by virtue of their ownership of it, or by their financial participation therein.
    • it must get at least 25% of its budget from sources other than its European Union funding.
    • it must submit its application by the 15 November before the financial year that it wants funding for.

    All that boils down in real terms to – YOU WILL comply with OUR TERMS that we have decided to IMPOSE and if you decline:

    Firstly you will miss out on a relatively unaccountable free handout of other peoples’ money for YOU to feather YOUR nest and in so doing strengthen the corrupt aims of The Malign and malevolent EU.

    Secondly if you do NOT do as we tell you we will imply that you opposed these basic terms:

    it must observe the founding principles of the European Union, namely the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

    Right lets look at this cleverly worded blackmail by The EU!
    The EU dishonestly claims:

    it observe the founding principles of the European Union,

    It does NOT they are merely flowery words that The EU completely ignores!

    namely the principles of liberty,

    Even Prisons offer periods of Free Association – there are no fundamental Freedoms on offer in this EU Political Prison – The Gulag is set up to ensure The State functions as a supra National Empirate enforced upon the largely opposed people – due to standards of education and a propaganda budget of £2.4Billion stolen from the prisoners annually – the balance of the population are so ignorant they have no understanding of the evil being done to them or they are on the Political Gravy Train enjoying the bribe culture and are bought and paid for.

    democracy,

    The EU pretends it has a Democratic deficit when in fact it has made it abundantly clear it has absolutely no knowledge or understanding of the basic tenets of democracy!

    respect for human rights

    This of course is a bare faced lie as even The United Nations, for which I have almost as little respect as I have for The EU or the rest of the New World, Globalist dissorder being managed to control through chaos – The UN clearly states in its Foundation Charter that a fundamental human right is the right of self determination.

    There is absolutely no right of Self Determination in The EU where as you know The French, The Dutch & The Irish ALL voted and rejected membership of The EU and engagement with the New Constitution Lisbon Treaty to the horror of the Dictator Committee of apparatchicks and their vassals – such that they blocked other Countries having the opportunity of Self Determination and lied to achieve their corrupt outcome.

    They have no respect for Human Rights – one need only study the new codex of law ‘Corpus Juris’ based upon the laws of The Emperor Justinius with an overlay of code Napoleon to produce a ‘better fairer system of REPRESSION’ I quote ‘CORPUS JURIS – Mireille Delmas-Marty EU Publication for DrG Finance ISBN 2-7178-3344-7 end of para 3 page 40

    and fundamental freedoms,

    What fundamental Freedoms do we enjoy that we did not enjoy or more to the point wished for as British citizens that are in some way granted that were precluded under British law had we wished for them and enjoyed our fundamental human right of SELF DETERMINATION.

    and the rule of law.

    The EU has no legitimate Laws as it has enacted a huge series of diktats and due to the total lack of democratic input and the fact that only a minority are in favour of membership they have no validity.

    Further when edward Heath negotiated and led these United Kingdoms backwards into this arcane concept he has admitted both on TV in an interview with David Frost and subsequently repeated on the floor of The House of Commons and thus on record in Hansard that he and his Cabinet deliberately lied to Parliament and the peoples and also it seems The Monarch when he stated that ‘This will lead to no essential loss of Sovereignty’ – he has confirmed that he lied because he believed that the people would vote NO in the referendum if they knew the truth.

    Many people believe the people voted NO anyway, despite his criminal deception and thus at the time TREASON. Many believe it was by lumping of Constituencies to fudge a result!

    Under UK Law at the time which was upheld by The Treaty of Vienna on International Treaties it clearly states that should one party mislead another to obtain their agreement, acquiescence or compliance to a contract or agreement said contract or agreement shall be deemed null and void.

    Thus Ipso Facto Britain’s signature to The Treaty of Rome is by any stretch of the imagination NULL & VOID.

    Thus since every single EU encroachment since that unlawfull document is merely an ammendment founded upon the pre supposition that the foundation document was sound there is no stronger argument against Britain’s membership of the centralised alien and malign committee dictatorship of The EU than the simple fact that there is prima facie evidence that our entire participation is Ultra Vires.

    WE ARE NOT LEGALLY MEMBERS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION

    Now consider the excellent fisking of Steve Allison’s confused statement lifted earlier from The UKIP members’ forum – the site where those too timerous to discuss their views and promote and defend them crano rectally retentatively navel gaze from the inside! An incestuous and heavily moderated site for those of little political nouse and less competence to impress eachother in a vacuum!

    Steve Allison on pan-EU parties

    Junius has posted comments said to have been made by Steve Allison on the UKIP members’ forum, following an NEC meeting at which a presentation on forming a pan-European party to access additional EU funding was discussed.

    The Euro-sceptic Parties, like UKIP, tend to shy away from forming organisations that are seen as taking them deeper into the system. As illustrated by the almost frenzied rush by some sections of UKIP to ensure our party is not contaminated by receipt of such money! This means Euro-sceptic groups don’t access the funding that is available and leave the field clear for the pro-EU organisations to grab all the cash.

    UKIP Members seem to fixate on the requirement that to draw down such funds the party must “observe the founding principles of the European Union”.

    However, those ‘founding principles’ are the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

    Which of those principles does UKIP Object to? Obviously we have a different interpretation of them from other parties and nations, and we understand and practise them in a very different way from Continental Europeans. But we, as a party do support these principles. There is no requirement for example to support any other aims of the EU, there is no requirement to support political union or greater integration. The irony is that UKIP could take EU Money and use it to fight political union and further integration in the name of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

    So it’s not that such funding isn’t available to Euro sceptic groups. It is just that such groups chose to not access the funding due to some mistaken idea of ideological purity.

    The phrase “Cutting off one’s own nose to spite one’s face” comes to mind here.

    Paid by whom and with what?
    One of the carrots of accepting membership of a pan-European political party would be funding for a “think tank” to develop policy. This would probably be based in the UK with a big slice of 1,300,000 Euro Budget. This money could be used to research positions, produce policies, print and distribute booklets, etc. It could also be used to fund conferences and meetings. Yes I know its a buy off (or a sell out?) but its a lot of money that UKIP could use to fight the EU with.

    I rather like the irony of using the EU’s money to fight against it. At least we’d be getting some of our own money back.

    If you think about it UKIP does only exist because of the EU! At the risk of breaking NEC Confidentiality I will say there was extensive discussion about this at the NEC and a lot more information is still outstanding. I went into the meeting pre-disposed to fight the “Pan European Party” to my last breath, but I listened to the presentation, I asked questions and received answers and I agreed at NEC that the party should investigate the outstanding issues and the NEC receive another report.

    The proposal was then to present this report at a special meeting open to all UKIP Members in London on October 9th. The morning session could have been an official Leadership Hustings and an afternoon session on the pan European party proposal. This would have allowed three or even four hours of informed discussion rather than just the very brief debate and prepared speeches to the motion at conference.

    Unfortunately I understand the amendment to the motion was defeated and so the Special General Meeting will now not take place. I think this is a real shame as it would have allowed informed decision making and not knee jerk responses

    I have not agreed to the proposal but what I have said is that it doesn’t need to be rejected out of hand without some really serious consideration. There is some serious money on the table and UKIP needs every penny it can get. The key question I asked, and received assurances to, was that being in such a party would in no way mean the end of UKIP, we would still be UKIP and would continue to campaign and stand in elections as UKIP.

    The whole thing is by no means a done deal but there are some very attractive carrots on offer and I for one find the irony very attractive in taking EU Money to spend fighting the EU.

    Assuming the comments are genuine and accurately reported, they are worth considering in detail as the subject is fundamental to UKIP’s future. The essential points made by Steve Allison are:
    quote (Steve Allison)

    UKIP Members seem to fixate on the requirement that to draw down such funds the party must “observe the founding principles of the European Union”. However, those ‘founding principles’ are the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law. Which of those principles does UKIP Object to? . . . . we, as a party do support these principles. There is no requirement for example to support any other aims of the EU, there is no requirement to support political union or greater integration.

    unquote
    Steve Allison would appear to be remarkably poorly informed here. If UKIP members are indeed fixated as he suggests it is because they have heard their MEPs, particularly Nigel Farage, say over and again that the party rejects the state funding of pan-EU political parties precisely because qualification requirements conflict with UKIP aims and principles. Is SA not aware that in 2004 MEPs Farage, Titford and Booth even took the European parliament and Council of Ministers to the European Court in an attempt to kill off the funding legislation? You can’t spend years saying something is dangerous and unacceptable, then suddenly present it as an attractive carrot and expect to carry the membership with you. See the following:

    Press release from Jeffrey Titford MEP, 26.7.00:
    The European Union plans to fund only those parties which “support the principle of European integration“.

    UKIP and EDD press release 18.2.03: The European proposals would require parties in receipt of funding to accept both the primacy of European Union law, and the EU’s Charter of Fundamental Rights. Jeffrey Titford said,
    It can hardly be considered democratic to require parties to accept a certain political position, in this case acceptance of the supremacy of the European Union and its bodies, in order to secure funding“.

    Daily Telegraph 20.2.03:
    Mr Farage said he was proud to be disqualified from receiving such funding. “I most certainly don’t respect the primacy of EU law and I think the charter (of Fundamental Rights) is downright dangerous

    Nigel Farage to CIB Liberty News, Spring 2003:
    in order for a political party to be registered it must ensure that the statute and activities of the European political party respect the basic purposes of the Union with regard to freedom, democracy, human rights, fundamental freedoms and the rule of law“.

    This immediately presents difficulties for parties that disagree with the objectives of the European Union . . . the UK Independence Party would immediately fall foul of the Commission because one of its aims is British withdrawal from the Union. It also disagrees with the principles of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights and does not recognise the supremacy of EU laws over those of Great Britain, making it a complete non-starter under the new rules!

    Europarl verbatim report of proceedings 18.6.03, Statute and financing of European political parties:
    Booth (EDD) – Two recent opinion polls in the UK gave figures of 92% and 96% as wanting to leave the European Union, and yet this proposal would deny funding to any party who should dare to represent the views of that very large proportion of its citizens“.

    BBC Radio 4 ‘World at One’ 27.6.03: Nigel Farage is an MEP for the UK Independence Party. As a member of a party who wouldn’t receive any of the new money he’s furious about the proposals: (Farage)
    If you support the political union, if you support the European project you’ll get money, if you don’t you won’t get money“.

    UKIP press release, 28.1.04 ‘UKIP MEPs take Euro Parliament to court over state funding of parties’ – UK Independence Party MEP Nigel Farage said,
    We are opposed on principle to the idea of state funding of political parties, either nationally or at a European level. It is not an appropriate use of tax-payers money. As if that was not bad enough, the legislation adopted by the European Parliament and the Council of Ministers will discriminate against certain political parties. It requires the recipients of European funding to subscribe to pre-set political ideals, such as agreement with greater European integration“.

    Europarl verbatim report of proceedings 8.3.04, Statute and financing of political parties at European level:
    Farage (EDD) I do not think there is any evidence that suggests that the voters in my country or in any other country are happy for their money directly to finance political parties at a European level. I have also felt, ever since Nice and Article 191, that this idea that you qualify if you conform to the democratic principles of the Union is potentially a dangerous one. I have some difficulty with the issue of the rule of law. It seems to me that, post-Constitution, some in this place – and I am one of them – will not recognise that new rule of law because we will only be able to leave the EU on terms of the EU“.

    UKIP Letter from Strasbourg 22.11.05:
    Pan EU Political Parties. Within the Independence and Democracy Group, two parties have emerged. However, UKIP joined neither of them, because there are no other moderate parties in the parliament that want to leave the EU and also, because UKIP disapproves of state funding for parties, which is to be made available to these new combinations“.

    UKIP press release 3.2.06:
    Snouts deeper in the trough – the European Parliament’s Budgetary Control Committee last night rubber-stamped a massive 19% hike in taxpayers’ money to be gifted to ‘European Political Parties’. Tom Wise MEP (UKIP) denounced the decision. The concept of European Political parties is itself a travesty designed mainly to raise more cash for pro-European political forces. To qualify, parties represented in the European Parliament from at least 7 different countries have to subscribe to a single political platform. This naturally discriminates against those parties that believe in national self-determination“.

    * * *
    A question that could be put to Nigel Farage at the leadership hustings is, were he and UKIP’s other MEPs lying over that five year period when they kept saying UKIP would be denied funding because of its stance on EU integration, or did they just not understand the funding criteria? And whichever it was, how are members to know they’re not lying / misunderstanding now in their presentation to the NEC?
    * * *
    quote (Steve Allison)

    One of the carrots of accepting membership of a pan-European political party would be funding for a “think tank” to develop policy. This would probably be based in the UK with a big slice of 1,300,000 Euro Budget. This money could be used to research positions, produce policies, print and distribute booklets, etc. It could also be used to fund conferences and meetings. Yes I know its a buy off (or a sell out?) but its a lot of money that UKIP could use to fight the EU with.

    unquote
    No, UKIP most definitely could not use the money to fight the EU! The regulations governing the funding of political parties at European level (pan-EU parties) and their associated political foundation ‘think tanks’ specifically rule out the money being used by national political parties. To form a pan-EU party UKIP would have to agree a common political programme with parties from six other member states, and the funds could only be used to further objectives set out in that programme. ‘Withdrawal’ would not feature in it since no other EFD members want to leave the EU, and the research, policies, booklets, meetings, conferences, etc, would all have to promote the new party’s aims of ‘improving’ the EU.
    quote (Steve Allison)

    The key question I asked, and received assurances to, was that being in such a party would in no way mean the end of UKIP, we would still be UKIP and would continue to campaign and stand in elections as UKIP.

    unquote
    This is only partially true. Legislation currently being steered through the EP’s Constitutional Affairs Committee (AFCO) by the LibDem MEP Andrew Duff includes a draft proposal for 25 seats at the 2014 Euro-elections to be contested by pan-European parties on an EU wide basis. If by then UKIP is in a pan-European party it will not be able to contest these seats as UKIP. Furthermore, although European Party funding cannot be used for campaigning by national parties the reverse does not apply, and UKIP funds can and no doubt will be used for the new European Party’s campaign. Obviously, 25 seats will be just the thin end of the wedge, and at future EU elections UKIP members can expect to see ever more of their party’s funds diverted into the election campaigns of EFD (or whatever they call themselves) MEPs.
    Don’t say you haven’t been warned!

    May I take the liberty of reitterating Barbara Booker’s excellent conclusion in my own name!

    Don’t say you haven’t been warned!

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    #0122b* – WITTERINGS FROM WITNEY: UKIP Go To War? Paint Balls At Dawn?

    Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/09/2010

    #0122b* – WITTERINGS FROM WITNEY: UKIP Go To War? Paint Balls At Dawn?
    Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!
    The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
     their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
    is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
    UKIP Go To War? Paint Balls At Dawn? NO, Too serious for another UKIP stunt!
    To Follow on from Posting #0122* – bringing you up to date!
    One wonders at the ill manners & stupidity of many in UKIP!

    Friday, 24 September 2010

    UKIP Go To War?

    The Talking Clock posts that Gerard Batten has formed an electoral pact with Tim Congdon, the latter who is standing for Leader – and that as part of this ‘pact’ Gerard Batten has withdrawn his candidacy for that position.

    In a brief form of the statement, Tim Congdon tells potential supporters: “Tim Congdon and Gerard Batten have announced that they will be working together in a joint bid for the leadership of the UK Independence Party. Gerard Batten has decided to stand down and to support the candidature of Tim Congdon. If Tim Congdon is elected Leader of the UK Independence Party, he will appoint Gerard Batten as Deputy Leader and Head of Policy Development.

    Follow the links in TTC’s post to read the statements by Batten and Congdon.

    So now we will have the Farage/Nuttall camps in open warfare with the Batten/Congdon camps.

    TTC ends his post:

    This is a race that just got a darn sight more interesting…

    And, I would venture, ‘bloody’………….. FFS UKIP!

    11 comments:

    James Higham said…

    That sort of thing is hardly helpful.

    The Talking Clock said…

    Thank you for the generous hat-tip.

    I’m hoping that the characters do not resort to internal warfare and hope that any – cough – ‘positioning’ of individual characters stays in the realm of private debate rather than bursting into the public domain.

    I have met all three of the declared and known candidates for my interview series and, while all three are very different in terms of personality, they were all incredibly warm and kind people.

    It’s for that latter reason that I *hope* that the gentlemen in the race can maintain a generous, fair and healthy contest. I’m optimistic that they will…

    Witterings From Witney said…

    JH – As they say, I do know that (only too well).

    TTC – my pleasure. Unfortunately I believe your wishes are misplaced – seen it all before. Yes all three are reasonable men but………there will be blood!

    Autonomous Mind said…

    A new cenre-right party without the ‘single issue’ baggage is required now.

    Witterings From Witney said…

    AM, agreed. However UKIP do possess those policies but it seems that rather than promote them they would rather have a bloodbath. I say that with heavy heart in the I support their policies entirely – they most definitely are centre right.

    As to your suggestion/conclusion – fine, how do we start one and who heads it? You can forget Hannan and Carswell – they are too wedded to their careers and I have virtually given up on them.

    Greg_L-W. said…

    Hi, I incline to agree with TTC and commend his comment: I *hope* that the gentlemen in the race can maintain a generous, fair and healthy contest. I’m not optimistic that they will be able to and thus in the face of the usual barage of smearing and deception – already started with abuse of staff and phone calls and the positioning of campaign managers and a toady as opposition to split the vote and prevent a fair fight I would hazard a prediction that it is all over bar the sneering & that was UKIP! There is absolutely no value in ANY Party from now on as our laws are made by our enemies at worst rivals at best. There is no value in discussion of policies that can NEVER be implemented whilst in The EU – and be minded NO PARTY has ever put forward an Exit & Survival Strategy. It will take 10 years from when we leave to be in a position to consider our own policies so play all you like at being political but without Leave-the-EU as a basis you are wasting yours and everyone elses time and working for the enemy. Have a look at Leave-the-eu.org on google and TheMidnightGroup.blogspot likewise. There are no answers but there is a step forward YOU can help build. When THE Gentleman in the UKIP blood bath wakes up perhaps he would care to come and help us do something constructive – UKIP is a part of the problem and offers no part of the solution. Regards, Greg_L-W.

    Witterings From Witney said…

    Greg, I do not stop any criticism or comment on this blog and you know full well that yours and my views on Ukip and the people in it are at total variance. It is a great pity that you force your views on those that don’t want them – witness you have been asked more than once to desist sending your email rants to me, yet continue to do so. For one who writes about “the usual barage of smearing and deception” I can only say to you that the words pot, black and kettle spring to my mind. The fact that you have a personal vendetta against certain members of Ukip is obvious and does your argument no good whatsoever. By all means argue and debate, but if you wish to do so on this blog then at least have the courtesy to provide provenance to your accusations.

    Greg_L-W. said…

    Hi, happy to – which bit did you not understand? It is a great pity that you force your views on those that don’t want them – witness you have been asked more than once to desist sending your email rants to me, yet continue to do so. Don’t read them – in the second row of keys down on the right you’ll find one marked delete. YOU are master of YOUR computer. For one who writes about “the usual barage of smearing and deception” I can only say to you that the words pot, black and kettle spring to my mind. Please be so good as to identify a lie, distortion, smear, untruth or deliberate inaccuracy I have EVER published – if you are unable an apology would be apposite when seeking to liken me to Croucher, Farage, Bloom, Bannerman, Clark, Andreasen, Agnew, Denny, McTrough and the rest of the pond life in UKIP leadership. The fact that you have a personal vendetta against certain members of Ukip is obvious and does your argument no good whatsoever. I have no vendetta with any member of UKIP merely utter contempt for corruption, dishonesty and bullying by public servants using tax payers’ money. By all means argue and debate, but if you wish to do so on this blog then at least have the courtesy to provide provenance to your accusations. Any time, Any place, with Anyone, withing 50 miles (health constraints – sorry). Regards, Greg_L-W.

    Witterings From Witney said…

    Greg, Re the delete button: what is it you do not understand, encapsulated in the words please do not send me your emails/please take me off your mailing list? I am fully aware where the delete button is located on my keyboard – unfortunately it does not work with people! Your comment about ‘pond life’ demonstrates you lack of courtesy and any ability to debate. Sorry to hear about your health being a tad problematical and trust it improves soon however not too sure what the waiting list is for the brain implant you so obviously require.

    Greg_L-W. said…

    Hi, The insignificance of your identity has passed me by – I merely respond to your ill informed witterings. That you are gratuitously offensive may well come naturally to you. However you have failed to identify what facts you had failed to understand: Was it the several £million that seem to have gone missing from UKIP funds? Was it Godfrey Bloom arrested for copulating in the street? Was it Gawain Towler boasting on his blog of his infidelity and perversion? Was it Derek Clark boasting of how he defrauds the EU at a public meeting? Was it the fact that Marta Andreasen is a fraud? Was it that David Bannerman lies about his identity? Was it that UKIP has held 2 petitions and raised money never accounted for and neither petition was ever delivered? Was it that Farage used staff to lie and cheat in his last leadership election? Was it that Malcolm Pearson was Money laundering to fraudulently misrepresent donors? Was it Bloom being banned from hotels for urinating in plant pots in public? Was it that Stuart Agnew was defrauding the tax payers? Was it that Trevor Colman criminally covered up for Tom Wise? Was it Farage promising Meridian TV he would publish his detailed accounts in 1999 yet never doing so? Was it that more than 85% of the money raise through Ashford never reached the party? Was it that Farage did NOT remove Tom Wise from UKIP but lied about it? Was it that Farage – chairs the most vile extremist group in the EU comprising criminals, violent xenophobes, holocaust deniers, racists, anti Jewish pro EU membership & The lisbon Treaty?   CONTINUED

    Greg_L-W. said…

    CONTINUATION Was it the blatant duplicity of Mark Croucher? Was it that David Lott lied about his employment status? Was it the industrialised criminal fraud and utter incompetence of Tom Wise for which he was jailed? Was it the corrupt and self serving behaviour of Annabelle Fuller? Was it that Mick McGough is a liar and a cheat? Was it that Farage & Croucher positioned the party by promoting The BNP? Was it the dishonesty of the treatment of Petrina Holdsworth when as Chairman she called for transparency? Was it that Douglas Denny corrupted the last proper leadership election and was fired by the NEC? Or was it something else you were confused about with the pond life that has risen to lead UKIP? As requested by YOU I am happy to debate these irrefutable FACTS with you or anyone else – however your ill manners and gratuitous abuse do little to assist in covering up the fact that UKIP’s leadership are little more than a rabble of parasitic petty crooks – prone to defaulting on their legal liabilities and without honour and with little dignity! May I remind you of your earlier rather more adult posting where you said: By all means argue and debate, but if you wish to do so on this blog then at least have the courtesy to provide provenance to your accusations. I replied: Any time, Any place, with Anyone, withing 50 miles (health constraints – sorry). Since you have now sunk to childish playground comments and insults – let us see if you have the maturity to debate as YOU requested. Which of the items listed are you not aware of and believe I can not provide provenance of? Regards, Greg_L-W.
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    #0113* – More on UKIP Placement of An Old Leader!

    Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/09/2010

    #0113* – More on UKIP Placement of An Old Leader!
    Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!
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     their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
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    More on UKIP Placement of An Old Leader!
    A Huge Waste of Time & Other People’s Money!

    Hi,

    Tim Congdon’s hat is firmly in the ring for the leadership placement of Farage who has ensured that The Desk Bannerman will stand to split the opposition vote, will play on the dweeb Gerard Batten‘s insecurities to ensure he stays for a drubbing though it is unlikely he can muster a team to support him – a measure of his worth is the disorganisation of his territory but who would help this man who has so little honour or integrity that not only did he seek to corrupt all concepts of British Justice to help the odious Derek Clark to try and ‘screw’ the long serving and loyal Peter Baker but he even slid into the gutter employing the vile self serving liar and cheat Mick McTrough.

    It is Oh so true that a man is known by his friends!

    Gerard Batten had so little understanding of morality and duty that he deliberately leaked private correspondence to him to seek to denigrate and defame a loyal member of UKIP for his own gain – even so this oik will still stand in the hope he can damage someone else as he stands not the hope of a snowball in hell he is so transparently unpopular – hence no support team, no vision, no help, no web site better still No Gerald in his gesture politics fancy dress with his one loyal supporter now he is an icon for perverts he can count on ‘Tim’!

    Then of course we can expect Winston McKenzie to make an also ran appearance but more dangerous for UKIP is that Mad Monkton will stand in the idiotic belief that people will vote for him due to being impressed with the lies he tells and his inheritted title – sad really as every sound he makes links UKIP more closely to Cranks, Gadflies and their own brand of Nobility Fruit Cakes!

    Were ALL other candidates to stand down to make it a straight fight between Tim Congdon & Nigel Farage – Farage would win because he has absolutely no honour and would not recognise straight were it not a spirit with no mixer!

    Already we hear he has all his placemen placed, already the ‘salary vote’ among the staff will of course be active and it is openly claimed that he and his staff are using the party data base to phone supporters and has lined up Regional Organisers to ensure their support as they all work for the failures he has personally placed as MEPs – Bought & Paid For!

    It is astonishing to think that in all his years this City Barrow Boy has never won a straight election so I rate Tim Congdon’s chances of a ‘straight’ fight at zilch but all the same I have recently posted his plea to members for votes CLICK HERE

    Let us ensure that Prof. Tim Congdon gets something out of this placement of Farage scam which he admits pleases him:

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    Think how happy he will be meeting lots of new people, delivering nerve wracking speeches to strangers – but as he said in his address: He does like to see his name in print.

    Leg pull aside I would like to see Tim Congdon win as I believe one more period of Farage‘s corrupt leadership will seel the fate of UKIP forever as they slide into the history books as a footnote that had such potential – our lifeboat finally sunk by the pirates and low lifes who seized it.

    For a great deal more information and his name in print CLICK HERE

    It is really funny watching the Farage butt lickers all scrabbling to moderate their positions and take up center ground to not risk the axe IF Tim Congdon gets elected.

    Many forget that not only has Farage been utterly incompetent on all counts as a leader, lacking any of the gravitas or OQ a leader needs but also he has openly stated that it is a full time job.

    Now even Farage is repositioning with a statement of:
    Vote me into office and I’ll quit immediately and give the job to a chum and some mates‘.

    Remember he went on TV and said Pearson was IN HIS OPINION the only credible candidate for leader and look what a disaster he was!

    Now Farage is saying:
    Vote me in and trust my judgement appointing someone else to lead, because I can’t‘.

    Is it any wonder the party is considered irrelevant by the media – not because they have an agenda but because they report NEWS and UKIP MIGHT just make it to NEWS level if they were wiped out by a disgrunled adulteress scorned! Or of course someone from The Green Party in defence of plant pots!

    Now that we know that Farage’s popularity with the members is shakey and clearly down by at least a third that puts him withing range of hope for Tim Condon – particularly when you remember the letter he signed that Piers Merchant wrote for Roger Knapman before the meeting called in the South West when Roger stood down from Farage’s corrupt group in The EU.

    Tim Congdom had the integrity to not just sign that letter but quit support of Farage’s Fan Club in disgust.

    Some may remember that until Tim Congdon saw through Farage he had been a regular and generous donor to the party but I believe I am correct in saying his name has been noticeably absent, as of course has Nikki Sinclaire’s – another generous donor – Other potential donors such as Dr. David Abbott, Dr. Eric Edmond, Niall Warry and the like have also been attacked by Farage and his sychophants in fear they might outshine the firmament and sweep clear the parasites that are the Farage Tabernacle Choir in the cult he has turned the party into.

    What now – when clearly it is only the Faragista Fan Club who praise him for their own gain not out of any Patriotic interest.

    Surely IF Tim Congdon were elected as opposed to a Farage fiddled Coronation – the upper echelons of UKIP are so corrupt that they would make Congdon’s job unworkable – remember David Abbott, Del Young, Eric Edmond and John West were ALL elected to the NEC by the members yet they did not suit Farage and were driven out – two were even driven out for meeting a long term friend of Nigel Farage’s at an NEC meeting to which Farage had invited him – do remember Buster Motram is a CLOSE family friend of the Farage family and it was against Party advice that Farage brought Motram into the party!

    How would Congdon stand a chance with an NEC positioned by Farage with liars, cheats, geriatrics and low lifes placed to control and be controlled. How could anyone expect a man of integrity, as Congdon surely is, to work with trash like Mick McTrough, Douglas Denny, Duffy and the like – is there ANYONE of any merit on the NEC as I have not noted them.

    How could Congdon hope to lead when endlessly sabotaged and ignored by The Faragista Fan Club I am unaware of a single individual of both merit AND integrity in any paid office in the party or within the top 50 individuals associated with the years of corrupt Farage leadership – would the Party have the common sense to support Tim Congdon removing 50 of the parasites that form The Farage Power base for if they don’t you might as well vote for Farage and have him appoint a team of his professional drinking mates!

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    #0106* – Extremism in UKIP – Leadership Make More Enemies with Farage Deity!

    Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/09/2010

    #0106* – Extremism in UKIP – Leadership Make More Enemies with Farage Deity!   

    Clean EUkip up NOW  make UKIP electable!  
    The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership,   
    their anti UKIP claque in POWER the NEC
    is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  

    Extremism in UKIP – Leadership Make More Enemies with Farage Deity!
    Yet another young member driven away by authoritarian Leadership!

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    However I encountered a wing of the party the other day which is far from open minded.

    It all stemed from when I and 2 others dared to disagree with party policy on the smoking ban. I am a supporter of the ban however  as you probably know UKIP is against the ban, this isn’t the point however, at first all was going fine abit of friendly debate and so on. Then Mr UKIP arrives, accussing me of being a traitor! Why? I dared to disagree with the partys talisman Nigel Farage’s stance on something, a letter has now been sent to my branch manager requesting my expulsion from the party, need I say more about this Mr UKIP if he has time to waste writing letters about me.

    I just thought I’d tell you that story because it backs up my point that, there is an extremest wing in UKIP that belongs in the BNP.  Its a dangerous thing that these people claim to be UKIP supporters and go around mis-quoting party policy giving the rest of us a bad name. Therefore I see it as essential that the next party leader purges the party ranks of these people before it gets too big of a problem to solve quietly.

    The type of extremism varys in UKIP from racists to authoritarians etc. It worrys me that these people can shout that they are UKIP members from the rooftops and give party policy over in a false way, it is damaging for the party and if nothing is done it is the sort of problem that can destroy the party from the inside.

    If UKIP really does have ambitions of joining the ‘big 3′ and turning it into the ‘big 4′ which they do, extremism has to dissapear from the party and not return.

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    Hi,
    to be fair, at a guess Matt Smith’s blog is probably read by very few but then again if UKIP were to based on numbers in a proper election where they get 3.1% of the vote rather than aided by a corrupt EU system of dishonest selections and party hacks on lists appointed from a list by PR they would never get a seat.
    I’m in the wonderful position that I have never nor will I seek preferment in UKIP or in politics. I care not howmany read my blogs – I am doing nothing more than publishing in some detail the truth as I see it to be – fortunately I seem repeatedly to be spot on accurate and to date have not made a single consequential gaff nor led anyone to believe something untrue, nor misled or lied in any area of consequence I know of or have been advised of.
    Unlike the pond life Farage has gathered around him as bis bottom wipes like Croucher, Denny, McTrough, Bannerman, Andreasen, Colman, Agnew, Dartford, Bloom, Clark who without doubt owe their livelihood to Farage’s corruption as clearly they lack the competence to get salaries and lifestyles like they have in politics on their meager abilities and endemic dishonesty. 
    Blogs are NOT about hit numbers they are about telling the truth and building a body of accurate and honest record – who cares if no one reads it as in the main bloggers are unlike politicians they are thinkers AND doers who derive no pleasure from the popularity they may gain.
    I care not if 20,000 or 2 visit my site daily – in fact if the 2 are consequential ie press or opinion formers I am happy – I am therefore happy! I know my sites are on the reading list of MEPs, MPs, Peers and numerous lawyers paid to nit pick their way through it seeking ways to defame me and hopefully earn their bonuses by preventing me publishing the truth!

    It is NOT a numbers game it is a matter of attracting some weight AND traction. 

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    #0100 – UKIP – WHAT is the Exit & Survival strategy for Britain from The EU?

    Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/09/2010

    #0100 – UKIP – WHAT is the Exit & Survival strategy for Britain from The EU?  

    Clean EUkip up NOW  make UKIP electable!
    The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership,   
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    is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

    UKIP – WHAT is the Exit & Survival strategy 
    for these United Kingdoms from The EU?

    Hi,

    UKIP Leadership has delivered many things for its members.

    It has delivered philanderers, liars, vote riggers, buffoons, a desk, fraud, multi £Million of scams and rip offs, serial idiots, geriatrics, Racists, petty criminals, anti Judaism,court cases, xenophobia, The BNP, vice, defaulters, squabbling, back stabbing, money laundering, degeneracy, perversion and an excess of parasites.

    More than a dozen years ago I stated publicly that Nigel Farage was UKIP’s greatest asset AFTER its message.

    I also stated if Farage ever stood for leadership I would withdraw my support and if he ever gained leadership he could count on my implacable opposition.

    There are some idiots with so little political brain that they believe that I oppose UKIP – perhaps they can identify a single solitary example that endorses that view.

    I implaccably oppose corruption in public office, I implaccably oppose racism in ANY situation, I totally reject any form of creed/belief/superstition being abused, I endorse the right of perverts to condut their perversions in the privacy of their homes in safety in accord with laws I campaigned for in the 1960s, I totally reject the utter incompetence and self serving, self enriching trash that has risen to leadership in UKIP and its parasites.

    UKIP are lions betrayed from the gutter.

    In all the years I have been an energetic supporter whilst scum and liars like Bannerman, McTrough, Denny, Croucher, Farage, Andreasen, Wise, Bloom, Lott, Moran, Curtis, Smith, Batten, Clark, Ranson, Reeve, Zuckerman, Nuttall, Duffy, Wood (Malcolm), Williams, etc. etc. saw it as a vehicle for enrichment and empowerment.

    In all those years I have seen No Evident Competence from The NEC or leadership from its leaders.

    Idiots have come and gone and the arguments are exactly the same ‘Is UKIP a pressure group or a party’? still rages on.

    No one has addressed the core, the ONLY issue – Leave-the-EU no one has even tried to show the benefits of leaving the EU.

    £1.00 for every time I have clamoured for or published:

    All that matters regarding the EUropean Soviet,
    which is Increasingly forming itself as a Supra National Power is:
    WHAT is the Exit & Survival strategy for
    Britain?
    ‘Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
    will make violent revolution inevitable.’
                                                                          Sun Tzu
    ‘To achieve One World Government it is necessary
    to remove from the minds of men their individualism
    their loyalty to family traditions and national identification.’
        Brock Chisholm, when Director of the UN WHO

    One is forced to wonder just why UKIP has NEVER made an effort nor managed to answer that question:
    UKIP – WHAT is the Exit & Survival strategy 
    for Britain from The EU?

    Is it because UKIP Leadership do not wish to leave The EU as they are too comfortable?

    Is it because UKIP leadership are too stupid to be able to answer?

    Is it because they haven’t a clue what they are doing or why?

    Is it because they have no vision and no principles?

    Is it because they don’t really know what The EU is or how it works?

    Is it because they have no understanding of the fiscal & judicial duties of Governance?

    Could it be that they are too busy squabbling to do an honest days work?

    INSPITE OF UKIP LEADERSHIP:

    UKIP – Lions led by asses.

    UKIP members have loyally and patriotically ploughed on TRYING to put a brave face on the shame that is their leadership.

    As at the start of September The EU’s in house polling and survey organisation has released some shocking statistics:

    Just Double Click the pic.
    or on some systems Right Click
    & follow the instructions for
    A Larger Clearer Version of This Graph.

    Obscene isn’t it – The EU’s in house pollsters have provided a graph that shows beyond any and all doubt that The EU is a Dictatorship NOT a Democracy – not even a Federation and clearly NOT an Empire.

    THE EU PROVIDES THE PROOF
    THE EUropean Union is a Mallevolent DICTATORSHIP

    More than Half the Countries that are vassals of this mallign experiment wish they were not, they do not trust it!

    Please note in that half are Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Greece & Spain it is thus safe to project that at least 2/3 of the serfs in the vassal states wish to leave.

    When the people wish to leave AS THEY CLEARLY DO
    & When the Politicians force them to stay
    That is NOT a Union, it is Not a Federation, It is Not an Empire 
    It IS A PRISON – Run By A Military Dictator Committee.

    Meanwhile some of the CORRUPT IDIOTS in UKIP Leadership are too stupid to understand why I and Junius openly support Nikki Sinclaire and totally repudiate UKIP’s scum Leadership.

    They seem not to have noticed, since they are part of the leadership  and its parasites that Nigel Farage at his own Conference tried to get passed JUST ONE vote in debate – he is so out of touch with the Party that he was resoundingly hammered. Interestingly it was a vote that he claims that having lost it he has lost £1 Million a year personally – His affidavitted comment was heard to be ‘That vote just cost ME a million’.

    Perhaps with some effort and help the idiots that are UKIP leadership and parasites will note how hard he tried to force Sinclair to sit as a racist, anti Jewish, homophobic, Islamophobic, xenophobe in The EFD – Not even so that he could receive her 4000 account money amounting to €76,000 a year was she prepared to stay and sit with such extremists.

    Further I support Nikki Sinclaire because unlike the scum that are UKIP leadership and its parasites in the 16+ years she has been a member of UKIP she has absolutely without exception been utterly loyal to UKIP and has never in any way deviated from the cause the Party was founded on and the MEMBERS espouse.

    May I also add that unlike EVERY UKIP MEP and ALL their parasites Nikki Sinclaire has ALWAYS opposed racism, xenophobia, homophobia, anti Judaism and to my knowledge has never varied in her integrity.

    May I also point out that Nigel Farage has openly admitted he has trousered over £2Million, has positioned himself as an MEP for 3 parliaments would seem to have profitted by several million that are unaccounted monies in UKIP with his parasites and has been a donor to UKIP of about £1,100 in his 17 years.

    Nikki Sinclaire was and may well still be UKIP’s largest MEP donor from her election until she was betrayed and lied to and about by the utterly reprehensible total dim wit Malcolm Lord Pearson.

    UKIP Leadership clearly lives in the gutter, functions in the gutter and is of the gutter.

    Yes I support Nikki Sinclaire, UKIP and The Petition to Parliament.

    Anyone who supports UKIP Leadership does NOT support UKIP, Patriotism or these United Kingdoms – it is little surprise to find filth like McTrough, Denny, Curtis, Towler, Smith and their ilk hanging on the coat tails of UKIP Leadership like lice.

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    #0097* – UKIP new NEC MEMBER Mike McGOUGH Brings UKIP Further Into DISREPUTE

    Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/09/2010

    #0097* – UKIP new NEC MEMBER Mike McGOUGH Brings UKIP Further Into DISREPUTE   

    Clean EUkip up NOW  make UKIP electable!  
    The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, 
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    is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
     
    UKIP’s new NEC MEMBER Mick McTROUGH Brings UKIP Further Into DISREPUTE by HIS NORMAL CHILDISH & DISHONEST BEHAVIOUR!

    FOR ALL McTROUGH’S Posturing:

    We note Brian Lee has the measure of the sad little failure:

    Quote Originally Posted by mick mcgough 
    So he,Edmundo,Juniarse and Greg Lee Whatisname are all peddling lies.
    The Chepstow sword of truth ,held valiantly by the Chepstow Bore with the transgender ponytail is somewhat bent.I hope Herr Doctors reports for the BoE WERE MORE ACCURATE THAN HIS DODGY BLOG and that of glw.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Lee

    Many of us may be misguided, but the above puerile attack indicates that the UKIP membership is likely to gain very little benefit from having elected the poster to the NEC.

    What Mr McGough fails to realise is that many of the contributors to this forum might still be active in, or promoting, UKIP if they had not lost all faith in the people who are running it.

    May I also point out to the sick, thick McTrough that to lie is to deliberaterly state a miss truth as he did with his lies to deceive his colleagues and defraud them of their rightful candidates in the MEP selection.

    McTrough IS a liar. Dr. Eric Edmond passed on what he genuinely believed to be factual information about himself that he had been told by a source he considered reliable at The UKIP Conference. Junius I believe copied Dr. Edmond’s own article and as I recal I said very little as I doubted my source but was substantiated by Eric Edmond.

    My first substantive statement on the matter of Dr. Edmond was today and was, as I understand it, spot on accurate and I subsequently find it being upheld by UKIP Chairman although with his track record of dishonesty one would be unwise to take advice on the time from either Paul Nuttall or McTrough as neither is honourable or trustworthy, as proven repeatedly.

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    #0096* – UKIP NEC as of OLD – LEAKS LIKE A RUSTY BUCKET

    Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/09/2010

    #0096* – UKIP NEC as of OLD – LEAKS LIKE A RUSTY BUCKET   

    Clean EUkip up NOW  make UKIP electable!  
    The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership,   
    their anti UKIP claque in POWER the NEC 
    is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name! 

    UKIP NEC as of OLD – SPOT THE FOOLS 
    WHO LEAK LIKE A RUSTY BUCKET

     Hi,

    So it seems little is new – first the leaks about Eric Edmond which you will note this blog did NOT run with in detail as we could NOT confirm that the NEC had actually fired him as a UKIP member and actually doubted the leak passed our way!!

    We now believe our instinct was right and Dr. Edmond has NOT been fired by the NEC – we understand that it has been decided that Dr. Edmond should be suspended pending a disciplinary hearing – Clever that as it means he is debarred from the leadership contest anyway and MAY feel a need for some constraint pending his hearing. I think their plan is much predicated by Michael Zukerman’s position but more of that in a moment!

    I also hear that Elizabeth Burton was also commenting and there is absolutely no doubt she was opening envelopes at the count and no doubt discounting votes ‘according to the ruling on the day‘ which precluded more than one vote in an envelope, as from husband and wife, yet found it acceptable to count votes not just filled in in accord with Godfrey Blooms utterly corrupt instructions but even when they included his instructions in the envelope.

    Clearly this vote was completely ultra vires to the rules, democracy and natural justice – not to mention common sense.

    We note that Elizabeth Burton has refused to deny the fact that she was even counting her own votes in another room – we are expecting her eventually to leak a rumour that having helped smooth out a few votes in the main room she took a dog for a walk!!!! I doubt anyone on UKIP’s leadership or NEC to have the integrity to stand up and tell the truth as I do not believe there is anyone in UKIP’s leadership team and parasites WITH integrity – or we would have been told in an open and transparent manner why Michael Zukerman did not attend the count – more of that in a moment!

    I see the timetable for the election is on the verge of leaking out without fanfare but more in keeping with UKIP like silent flattulence – so much that UKIP does is little more than malodorous and offensive – more of that in a moment!

    The closing date is to be 27-Sep-2010 and the result will be announced on 05-Nov-2010.

    I just couldn’t help laughing!!

    Have you spotted the UKIPism?

    Of course you have – there is absolutely no mention of a vote, how very UKIP and it may explain why people like Burton, McTrough, Curtis and the other completely useless NEC members are elected – in UKIP NEC stands for No Evident Competence!

    The discussion regarding Michael Zukerman was interesting but as I have said from day one he had  No Evident Competence – more of that in a moment!

    I hear that there is no truth in the rumour that for a fee Kirsten Farage is to act as Returning Officer for the leadership placement. I am however certain Michael Zukerman will not take on the task – he was an abysmal failure in the NEC election failing to present a trustworthy result and thus as Party secretary, Returning Officer and a solicitor seemingly colluding in undeniable corruption – more of that in a moment!

    We also note that the liar and all round UKIP bad egg (malodorous?) David Bannerman is performing like a circus poodle and has jumped up to perform its tricks and jump through hoops for there is nothing he likes more than turning tricks in the ring – as with the last leadership selection David Bannerman dragging the corpse of someone’s long dead distant relative in his desk around the room (Maloderous? na, just tastless and dishonest!).

    David The Desk has come into the leadership selection as a spoiler for Farage and when he loses, as is the plan, Farage will make him Deputy Leader de ja vu all over again. You will remember the last leadership placement when Farage was put in place there were all sorts of rumours that Farage & the liar Bannerman were not on speaking terms because Bannerman had attacked Farage in a speech – I gather usually when people are attacked by Bannerman the police are called but even the women eventually do not press charges and the Acton calls also tended to fall through I am told.

    I wonder who will be their next puppet chairman – McTrough perhaps he has proved a reliable and consistent liar and endlessly brings the party into disrepute – more of that in a moment!

    Sorry folks another task has just come up as a result of a call from Strasbourg.

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