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#0633* – 2 Days Late UKIP Catches Up With Its Own Voters!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/08/2011

#0633* – ” Days Late UKIP Catches Up With Its Own Voters!

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~2 Days Late UKIP Web Site Catches Up With Its Own Voters!
But you will note UKIP last made a comment on Local, National, EUropean or World Politics or issues on the 8th.!

Probably a good job in view of the idiocy of that statement!!!

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Members say ‘No’ to PEP

Thursday, 18th August 2011

The results of UKIP’s Pan-European Party ballot have been announced by Returning Officer Steve Allison.

TWO DAYS after they were published on this blog and on Junius and subsequently on various Forums – I guess the problem was how to lay the ground for another vote, so that like The EU the self serving leadership could orchestrate a THIRD vote to get what they wanted having failed twice showing how out of step with the members they are!

Farage has quite clearly lost what little mandate he had having made a fool of himself in Buckingham, found guilty in Court regarding the lies and bullying of Sinclaire, befouled UKIP with Mark Croucher and Annabelle Fuller and others on his personal pay roll, been rejected on the issue of AV, provided a catastrophic outcome in the local elec tions, failed to show the slightest signs of professionalising UKIP regardless of his endless failed promises.

Clearly this latest vote shows Farage and his parasites are completely out of touch! Again and again it has been proven that as a performing monkey he is usually excellent but that he hasn’t one scrap of leadership skills, lacks any aspect of OQ and has stifled the party by failure to work with others. Only the weak and sycophants ever make good the people who may have shone along side of Farage are without fail sabotaged and removed – just look at the trash that passes for staff and leadership in UKIP today!

Little wonder Farage is held in such contempt by the informed and by adults with experience who are not using him as a route to the gravy train!

After the votes had been counted, the result was announced at 4pm on August 16 with the following results:

Total valid votes cast 7,696
Turnout  49.2%

Yes 2535 (32.9%)
No 5161 (67.1%)

lets look at just how dishonest The YES campaigners are without even considering the liar, cheat and low life Mick McGough’s contribution.

That UKIP rigs internal elections is irrefutable – Consider Douglas Denny who was voted out as returning officer for having deliberately corrupted a so called leadership election for Nigel Farage. CLICK HERE

Annabelle Fuller’s outright lies campaigning for Farage: CLICK HERE. Or Croucher’s undeniable dishonesty to rig an election for his sponsor Farage.

See even UKIP’s returning officers report: CLICK HERE

Then UKIP leadership get annoyed when doubted! Having a long history of corruption and dishonesty – Be minded of howmany are still under investigation by OLAF & of course there are those who have been found guilty and sent to prison and those who have been found guilty and had to repay substantial sums of money fraudullently obtained including Jeffrey Titford, Nigel Farage, Derek Clark, Tom Wise, Graham Booth to name a few!

Party Chairman Steve Crowther said:

“We have had a clear statement of the members’ opinion, and can now move on.

There was a clear statement of member’s opinion at the party conference where they resoundingly rejected membership of PEPPs but in true EU style UKIP leadership decided to hold a corrupt re-run to try to get a different result!

This has been an excellent example of party democracy in action,

NO it was a costly farce forced on the members to try to enrich and aggrandise Nigel Farage – who amongst other things seemingly hoped to be in the running as a super MEP under the terms of The Duff Report!

and I would like to thank all the participants, on both sides, for the civilised way in which it was conducted.

There was nothing civilised about having a re-run in the first place nor about the dishonesty of Mick McGough and Stuart Agnew in the way they lied for gain on behalf of Farage’s personal ambitions.

I would also like to thank the Vice-Chairman, Steve Allison, for running the thing so smoothly.

Running?

“It is important to remember that we are all, fundamentally, on the same side.

It is hard to believe this when one looks at the antics of UKIP leadership who seem far more interested in themselves than in UKIP, other than as a vehicle or these United Kingdoms other than as their personal Milch Cow!

We may disagree on the tactics,

We note the absolute lack of vision, training, plan or Strategy and the footling tactics that are presented are all too often crass or venal.

but we all share the same goal

This is hard to believe when so many of us want to Leave-The-EU yet UKIP does almost nothing of any substance or gravitas towards that aim – endlessly squabbling to gain better seats on the gravy train and their snouts deeper in the troughs!

and can be enormously proud of what we have already achieved.

Do try to catalogue a single solitary achievement UKIP can lay claim to that has materially moved these United Kingdoms a fraction of an inch closer to leaving the EU in their 18 years of sequential parasitic failure!

“Our message is now not only the mainstream view in this country but,

Hardly something UKIP can lay claim to when so much has been done by others – be that Dan Hannan, Declan Ganley, Margaret Thatcher, Neil & Glynys Kinnock, Christopher Booker, Dr. Richard North, Bernard Connolley, Norris McWhirter, Elizabeth Becket, Harry Randall, Harold Hoffman or even people like myself who have relentlessly exposed and attacked The EU and sought our freedom as a Sovereign State over many years – ALL of the UKIP MEPs put together have not achieved a fraction of that which Nikki Sinclaire has actually achieved!

increasingly, the view of ordinary people across Europe.

That has been the case for many years with people like Declan Ganley, Le Pen and the like – even whole Countries like Norway, Iceland, Switzerland or even Holland, France & Ireland who voted against the new constitution.

Frankly what other Countries chose is no concern of mine nor should it be any part of UKIP’s – I want no part of being in The EU and as a believer in Self Determination and Democracy I have no desire to impose my Country’s view on others as regards how they Govern themselves.

As we will see at Conference, it is now attracting increasing numbers of influential people to our cause.

Might you mean the pornographer’s goffer at The Express?

Let’s put this debate behind us and show the world that we are a powerful, unified force.”

Would anyone be brave enough to bet this decision will be allowed to stand without wheeding efforts to bypass it. I see no announcement that Godfrey Bloom will be leaving his current PEPP which he apparently chairs! Nor have we noted Farage renouncing association in The Pan EU Political Party Grouping he chairs with The EFD Group.

Effectively the vote is already being ignored by UKIP’s corrupt leadership and its parasites.

Leader of the ‘Yes’ campaign Stuart Agnew said:

“I would like to congratulate Trevor Colman and his team on an emphatic outcome. As a team player I would never want to go against the wishes of the membership,

This is a lie – the grubby little cheat outright stated that whatever the outcome he would join a PEPP.
SUBSEQUENTLY he was ORDERED to issue a statement ameliorating his natural corruption.

especially those in the Eastern region, and will abide by the result,

So a potential get out clause! where it can be claimed that those in the Eastern Region voted to join because the puppet Regional Committee owned by Agnew will do as it is told as it is made out of people largely without integrity, ethics or morality.

as I pledged during the campaign.

NO – Agnew clearly stated on the record that he would join a PEPP regardless of the democratic wishes of the members.

“Longer term we may have to consider what will happen if the Duff Report is passed

Already the revisionist excuses materialise!

and we face a second, Pan-European, ballot paper in the European Election, or indeed a Referendum.

So the hint here is that in accord with the utterly corrupt lack of democratic principles of The EU – UKIP will seemingly just keep holding votes until they get the result that makes the leadership the most money!

“In the meantime, however, I’m glad we have a clear result.”

I may be a tad cynical but I tend to judge based upon track record! Frankly I believe this is a lie – just as Stuart Agnew & Mick McGough lied to UKIP members to try to con them into voting YES.

Frankly who cares how The EU runs its affairs – the job of UKIP is to withdraw and not keep helping the EU by providing them with a cloak of democracy whilst co-operating on all counts in return for the bribes!

Leader of the ‘No’ campaign Trevor Colman said:

“I have been asked to comment on the significance of Tuesday’s ballot count where UKIP membership roundly rejected involvement in a Pan European party by more than two to one.

For the Second Time and at a cost of £10,000+

“The result indicates how far the Party

Farage & his parasites seeking income and prefferment via participating in The EU scams in return for the personal gains!

has moved from the grassroots and is a timely reminder that further continued entanglement in EU structures will not be tolerated and rightly so.

Sadly I lack Trevor’s conviction! UKIP has very clearly become EUkip under its present leadership and little wonder that 2 to 1 of the membership have seen through Nigel Farage’s antics – his 3 speeches, his ill considered attacks on individuals in The EU Parliament where he is merely laughed at and ignored.

“Britain should be where the Party concentrates its greatest efforts with EU parliamentary activity cut to the absolute minimum.

Not for as long as EUkip leadership team can whore and booze their way around Brussels and Strasbourgh will that be likely to happen – just look at the value of the bribes received for compliance with The EU scam.

It is here, in the streets and meeting places of Britain, that we will eventually win this fight, not in the committee rooms and chambers of Brussels.

The Grass Roots and members have shown they know that but the self serving leadership and the wannabes clearly are not listening!

Future Party strategy should reflect this.

Of course but we all know, based upon a 100% consistent track record that there is no strategy!

The members have spoken.

So what will be the attitude of the corrupt!

They must not be ignored.”

They have been to date! One need only look at how EUkip and its lackeys have lied, bullied and berrated anyone who has dared to expose them – viz: Nikki Sinclaire, Gregg Beaman, Linda Guest, Petrina Holdsworth, John West, Richard Suchorzewski, Niall Warry, myself and others.

Just look at the lies and attacks mounted on Junius and I and the endless accusations when it has been shown time and time again that the liars and low lifes of EUkip have NEVER ONCE shown a single solitary lie or misrepresentation of any material consequence that I have EVER deliberately told on any subject EVER. That does not seem to stop EUkip trying to drag what is left of the reputation of UKIP into the gutter they inhabit with their endless cheating, lies and defamation as their only defence of their vile behaviour.

Party Leader Nigel Farage said:

“In the light of this result we must hope that the Duff Report does not pass in the European Parliament this autumn.

Sad bitter little man serving up sour grapes to his own membership as he sees his hopes of £1Million a year additional income and a position as a super MEP potentially slipping away.

Just check out Farage’s donations record relative to the substantial fortune he has earned to realise for whom he is working!

The Duff Report should have absolutely no relevance to a genuine UKIP supporter as genuine UKIP supporters are working NOT for change as reformists but to Leave-The-EU – Who cares how these Continentals choose to Govern themselves lets face it it is almost 2000 years since they held much sway on the planet – not since The Roman Empire have they had overly much relevance – part of the reason for the EUro was that the French were fed up at having a totally irrelevant currency around the globe on a par with The Italian Lire, The Greek Dracma and the Spanish Peseta – Woopy Doo!

If it does, we have just disqualified ourselves from 50% of the ballot papers to be issued.

This is a completely dishonest misrepresentation of the facts. UKIP was elected to make the tortuous and undemocratic processes of The EU clear to the peoples of these United Kingdoms not exploit them for self enrichment and obfusscation!

That makes winning rather difficult.”

Who cares if The EU wants 25 more MEPs or 25,000 MEPs – UKIP is there to disassociate these United Kingdoms NOT to join the mouse wheel and chase the cheese!
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#0632* – UKIP Vote NO to PEPPs 2 to 1

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/08/2011

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UKIP Vote NO to PEPPs 2 to 1!
Wriggle & Squirm but Farage’s EFD Position is ETHICALLY Untenable!

Stuart Agnew’s blatantly stated disregard for members must call into question when will he resign his seat!

Clearly a serial liar and low life like Mick McGough has no place in any ethical organisation!

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UKIP Vote NO to PEPPs 2 to 1

UKIP Vote NO to PEPPs 2 to 1

Hi,

Although this blog & others I am associated with published the results provisionally at 14:30hrs. yesterday you will note that today even a further 24 hours later UKIP has not published its results on its web site to inform its members.

The actual result was a win for the NO vote, as we earlier stated:
Yes 2,535 (32.9%)
No 5,161 (67.1%)

Turn Out 49.2%

I am rather pleased at the accuracy of my public prediction last week that I expected around 7.1/2 thousand voters which would represent between 2/3rds. and 3/4 of the extant membership. This, as predicted turned out to be true with 7,696 votes cast.
We were however wrong in our predictions not realising just how large an effect the internet has had on the event, but it is now clear that as a result of the various blogs informing people of the lies of Mick McGough in support of the yes campaign:


From Steve Allison

From steve allison
to Stuart Agnew MEP
cc Mick McGough
cc Trevor Colman MEP
cc Steve Crowther
Date 19.06.2011

Stuart,

I have received a complaint regarding the video.

Specifically the complaint refers to the claim by Mick McGough that he “has in his hand a cheque for £300,000 payable to UKIP”

The No campaign claim the money CANNOT be paid to UKIP.

Can you please confirm that the claim that the money can be paid from a PEP direct to UKIP is accurate.

If you cannot confirm this is a factually accurate statement then I must ask for the video to be withdrawn until a suitable correction of fact can be made.

Steve Allison
Vice Chairman UKIP.

Also the reprehensible comments of Stuart Agnew informing his audience that effectively he didn’t care what the outcome of the vote would be he was going to join a PEPP regardless as he could make more money and that Godfrey Bloom had already joined one in the certain knowledge that the membership, at the party conference, had resoundingly rejected the scam.

I was wrong on my prediction that it would be a close run thing with maybe as little as 2% either way in the result – I really didn’t realise just how much influence the truth would have on the members, you only need to read the in house Farage Fanzine The Independence Magazine to realise that was not where they were accessing the truth.

Clearly the activists and the ‘armchair vote’ alike have been keeping themselves aware of the dishonesty of the leadership via the blogs.

I guess we should not be as surprised as Mick McGough is not the only one who has made it very clear that he is a regular reader of both Junius and UKIP-vs-EUkip blogs on which he frequently comments and quotes, he even posts himself occasionally.

I guess all that leaves me to say to our regular readers and followers – Thank You for this little personal triumph in the efforts to Clean-Up UKIP to make it a party that ethical informed individuals may one day be willing to vote for to Leave-The-EU.

Let us hope that Farage and his parasites clinging on like maggots on a corpse realise their scam is dead in the water and rapidly withdraw from membership of the extremist, racist, anti Jewish and vile Pan EU Political Party EFD Group.

As soon as Farage is willing to forgo the extra income he makes and UKIP MEPs can be permitted to act in the interest of the electorate and Britain with control of their own 400 budget (formerly 4000 budget), their own travel allowances and staffing budgets and represent Britain in their own right on committees and ‘missions’ rather than have the allocation of travel and committees used as bribes to buy in members to the group to boost the group leaders income and personal control.

Enough of personality politics it has proved divisive and an abject failure for UKIP – where the leadership seemingly have utterly lost sight of the aim, which was to actively campaign to inform on the details of the damage done to Britain by membership of The EU, divise an exit and survival strategy and actively campaign to fulfil that strategy – NOT as a scam for self enrichment and Isle of Mann bank accounts and posturing on the gravy train with their snouts in the trough.

 
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#0631* – UKIP MEMBERS REJECT PEPP MEMBERSHIP 19:30hrs. 16-Aug-2011

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/08/2011

#0631* – UKIP MEMBERS REJECT PEPP MEMBERSHIP 19:30hrs. 16-Aug-2011

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UKIP MEMBERS REJECT PEPP MEMBERSHIP 19:30hrs. 16-Aug-2011!
This leaves Resignations as the ONLY Honourable way forward for some!

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UKIP MEMBERS REJECT PEPP MEMBERSHIP 19:30hrs. 16-Aug-2011

UKIP MEMBERS REJECT PEPP MEMBERSHIP 19:30hrs. 16-Aug-2011

Hi,

It would seem that UKIP members have voted resoundingly against Farage’s recommendation – his political ineptitude in trying to force the support of The EU on members for his personal gain has backfired.

Having chosen two dishonest men to front his pro PEPP campaign with the fraudster Stuart Agnew EFD & NFU MEP and the liar and cheat Mick McGough. Farage made a terrible mistake as it became apparent to the membershiop that they were being deliberately lied to by their leadership – so much so that they were forced to withdraw some of their excesses and remake their video to remove some of the lies!

That this debate was forced on the party when Farage had resoundingly lost the support of members at last years conference and an overwhelming vote against membership of PEPPs was passed leading to Farage’s accusation that Trevor Colman having won had just cost him (Farage) £1 Million a year!

To try to save face Farage has not only cost UKIP over £10,000 in organising the debate & vote but has deeply split the party leaving those who lied to support him with no honourable course of action other than to resign and leaving Farage in a ludicrous position!

Farage has fractured his party, divided his leadership and surrendered his mandate as leader – this on top of a £10,000 bill and a catastrophic local elections in May all based upon his crass personal lack of leadership skills.

To add to this he is now in the embarrassing position that he has forced out of UKIP leadership Mike Nattrass, Trevor Colman & Nikki Sinclaire as they were unwilling to cohabit with Farage’s chosen extremist, racist, anti Jewish and violent EFD Pan EU Political Party Group!

How can Farage be taken seriously ever again having made such a mess of his job and so betrayed his members? No informed individual could still believe he was much more than a puppet for The EU filling the role that it seems he was invented for – an opposition giving spurious credibility to the pretence The EU is in any way democratic.

Today even The EU are losers as it seems clear that UKIP members have seen through their scam and Farage is left discreditted. Will The EU dump their blue eyed boy and invent another puppet to posture and pose as an opposition whilst sabotaging the credibility of The EUroSceptic wing of The Tory Party?

Clearly UKIP members have voted against membership of The EFD and wisely so but will their leadership in arrogant greed merely dismiss the members as the buffoon Michael Greaves did, stating his master’s view that UKIP Members are too stupid to understand the issues!

Farage has put himself into a corner, where his party has voted resoundingly against his leadership, and he has no honourable choice but to withdraw from leadership of The EFD, immediately suspending UKIP membership of The Pan EU Political Party EFD Group – Pending notification to The EU that UKIP has terminated its membership – UKIP MEPs have no honourable choice but to sit as Unattached Members of The EU Parliament – a status where you may recal Nikki Sinclaire showed the lead as clearly more in touch with the members than Farage and his claque of parasites.

I note that over 5 hours after the vote result was in the public domain on my blogs, on Twitter and on Junius there is no sign of letting the membership at large know with no announcement, comment or apology on the UKIP Web Site, The No Campaign Web Page or The Yes Campaign Web Page respectively.

Is it that the leadership are licking their wounds and trying to dream up a story to cover for this catastrophe they have engineered for themselves?

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