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#401* – ANOTHER LIE FROM Douglas DENNY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/03/2009


#401* – ANOTHER LIE FROM Douglas DENNY

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

ANOTHER LIE FROM EUkip NEC MEMBER & SERIAL LIAR Douglas DENNY!

Hi,

Recently Douglas Denny has been bringing EUkip into disrepute as an NEC member by telling a series of lies about Petrina Holdsworth – I appreciate that none but the utterly stupid believe much, if anything, that Douglas Denny is happy to put his name to!

Douglas Denny has a long record of proven dishonesty and corruption even stooping to the level of revisionist re-writing of EUkip NEC Minutes, cheating in elec tions, corruption and dishonesty in the leadership election for which the NEC voted unanimously to dump him as Returning Officer.

Douglas Denny has lied so often about me he seems to be trying for a record – he believes that if he states something often enough, without ANY substantive provenance, it in some way becomes a truth!

The lies about Petrina Holdsworth on what was UKIPForum and is now rather laughably called The British Democracy Forum which is corruptly and dishonestly owned by Anthony Butcher and Moderated most actively by Brendan Padmore, who is so ashamed of his behaviour he calls himself B.A. ware! They dishonestly provide a platform for lies from EUkip and its more dishonest supporters l;ike Denny, Bob Feel Martinis, Mark Croucher and similar pond life.

Recently Douglas Denny has invented a completely dishonest scenario regarding his corruption, with Gerard Batten of an utterly corrupt EUkip Kangaroo Court brought based upon lies and self interest by the duplicitous Derek Clark against Peter Butcher, which in shame Derek Clark folded and ran away from when he realised his lies and dishonesty were about to be exposed by valid and accurate witnesses and even the dishonesty of the self important fool Douglas Denny could not shelter him – his case collapsed in farce, exposed for what it was.

You may find the following comment of Douglas Denny in his dishonest and strident denial of his dishonest and unpleasant claims of ‘mental health’ problems of John West – besides the following communication from Denny in response to Geoffrey Collier, which is in the public domain – I am aware of 3 sworn statements confirming that Douglas Denny has lied on this issue.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey Collier
Douglas D: As both you and BobFM punctuate virtually every other word with either lie or liar, were both of you taught by the same elocution teacher? Rather like people who use that dreadful phrase, ‘gob-smacked’; doesn’t the very inelegance of such words and terms repulse you? Being the fruit of foreign-loins, BobFM has a slight excuse; but what’s your story Denny?

My “story” is that any claim that I have accused Mr. West of mental illness is a lie. Direct and unequivocal.

In case you are not familiar with the definition: a lie is “an untruth made with the deliberate intent to deceive”.

I will allow that Mr. West may think I have accused him of such, in which case he is in error and confused. Or, most likely and possibly, he has been erroneously informed in this way by the incredibly nasty person who was thrown off the NEC… who would then be the person to start and promulgate the lie. Which would not surprise me in the least as said person is the most unpleasant person I have ever met in politics and is, in my opinion, fully capable of such manipulations.

I remember well the occasion when another person made comments which might be constued that way, but I was not involved in those comments.

I will not allow that Mr. ‘Junius’ is confused, as he is simply a liar.
And has been proven to be a liar on a number of occasions here on this forum time and again. Why do I call him a liar – because he has promulgated “information” here on this forum which he says is true and I know with certainty to be otherwise … and obviously done with the intent to deceive.
In other words, it follows therefore he is a LIAR.

Comprende now Geoffrey?
It’s quite simple really.

DED.
The original of this pack of lies can be seen at CLICK HERE

—– Original Message —–
From: “Geoffrey Collier”
To: “Douglas Denny”
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: Politids and the need for wisdom.

> Dear Douglas,
>
> Is there not a danger that you may at times, over-rate your political
> talents?
> I don’t mind you criticising me, or linking me with others as in an e-mail I
> received to-day,
> and dismissing me and the rest as malcontents. I don’t mind that kind of
> abuse, but I do think that you could well harm yourself, and incur much
> expense at the same time.
>
> Presumably you are aware that once the judicial review has completed its
> work, irrespective of the findings, the Metropolitan Police will be
> re-commencing their investigations into the UKIP Lottery.
> That will be more than sufficient reason to ask the Electoral Commission for
> a forensic audit.
> The El. Com. could hardly refuse, given their own experience of people like
> Andrew Smith, and I doubt if they would want to.
>
> We can only speculate as to what will happen to Tom Wise on the 29th, of
> this month, but it is not improbable that he could well be prosecuted. I
> don’t wish any individual harm, but with eleven separate actions pending,
> those on the NEC could well find that they are the subject of a ‘call’ as
> they describe it at Lloyds. With a declining house market, it is not a good
> time to seek loans using houses as collateral.
>
> Although you are inclined to blame the membership for all our ills, why are
> we confronting representation to societies like Mind, concerning UKIP’s
> habit of using psychiatric illness as a term of abuse. Zuckerman, I
> understand, calls everyone he dislikes, as suffering from Tourettes Syndrome
> Nigel Farage called someone spastic, as a term of abuse, in Chichester
> Technical College, This is always unfortunate, but this kind of publicity
> being made by a charities against us is unacceptable.
> You must remember, that Nigel Farage had close National Front member as his
> chosen election companion, In addition, seeking out an extreme Libertarian,
> who is tolerant of those who possess
> bomb-making literature and child pornography, is not the kind of person we
> should seek-out as MEP candidates; with even a favoured listing-place being
> discussed. This should not be imposed upon any party, and we should not be
> asked to remain silent about it. Do you imagine that the national press will
> not be using this against us in the Euro-elections?
>
> We are informed on the forum that Campbell Bannerman’s true identity is
> known, and that is to be revealed closer to the election. Surely the time
> has come for that unfortunate to leave the party at least, if not public
> life.
>
> Those constant accusations about NEC leaks, recalcitrant members, wreckers,
> and every other malcontent, the facts remain that the salaried members have
> always been our fatal flaw. No, Douglas,
> I fear that your analysis is in want of revision. I suppose, however, your
> situation is slightly better that that of Croucher’s, for he may be needing
> plenty of funds if my informants are correct.
>
> Geoffrey C.

From: douglas denny

To: Geoffrey Collier
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Politics and the need for wisdom.

Geoffrey,
As I have said before – I quite like you as a person – always pleasant and cheerful, full of bonhomie and quite fun / in fact highly amusing to listen to your ramblings, but you are the Tommy Cooper of politics: great fun but no substance.

You have been telling me for far too long about the demise of UKIP; the demise of various leaders of same; dire happenings to and about individuals and events which were going to be the downfall of UKIP. (Like Ashford …I recall was going to become the Achilles Heel of UKIP with the Income Tax people down on our necks like a ton of bricks you once said ad nauseum…. {wot happened to that then?}…….)

None of which has happened yet. You are the boy who cries ‘wolf’ – and have done so too many times for me to take you seriously anymore.

UKIP will continue like a planet in its orbit just the same with or without your protestations of doom and despondency.

For my part I am heartilly sick of the obvious machinations of the group of malcontents (of which you are one) who are trying to consistently bring down the leader, and UKIP in general with your bleatings about “probity” and “cleaning-up” UKIP. It is all (sorry for the expletive which I know you do not approve of but is appropriate here on a one to one basis with someone I know) – a complete load of bollocks !

I am big enough, old enough and ugly enough to know the difference between reasoned, reasonable, antipathy and prolonged unreasoned attack. You are into the latter category.

I do not know your background sufficiently well to know whether you are merely a willing dupe in this process, as a small bit-part acolyte of another outside conspiracy/agency involved; or whether you are just suffering from OCD with an obsessive fixation with UKIP and Farage/Ashford in particular; either way you display an overly obsessive disposition to what is only a small political party hammering its way into the British political scene with minor difficulties which by comparison with the major parties are piffling.
This obsessive condition seems to be a common disorder too with some in (and out of) UKIP, in that John West displays the same kind of disposition; and GLW too; and Edmond ….in fact all the “malcontents” … could it be that the commonality is an anti-UKIP network? or are you all mad?

I do know you are part of a network using the internet e-mail system for co-respondence which appears to have the objective of how you can coordinate attacks on UKIP. You have made mistakes in the past handling information I gave you on a one-to-one basis which I know with certainty link you with GLW …and yes I know your protestations about never having any contact with him – which is bollocks too – as indirect contact is still viable through your anti-UKIP network and you well know that.

The tragedy of it is, I used to look up to you and your elevated seniority in UKIP in the early days of knowing you, when you were sensible, and you used to speak great sense at the Chichester meetings and think you were a great person, a philosopher who looked deeply into the issues and came out with profound wisdom….. then you went away somewhere and had a lobotomy and returned full of bile and spittle and a burning hatred to bring down Nigel Farage and UKIP along with it. Everything then on from you was nonsense. You now appear to everyone on the forum as a figure of fun ..and it is of your own making with your outrageously silly ideas – especially about Ashford. Most unfortunate.

I look on with amazement at the antics of the idiot John West; and others… and have had sent to me in an e-mail the latest unmitigated drivel of GLW about D.Campbell-Bannerman (and who in the public domain gives a toss what his name is? no one is the answer, and certainly not I ! ); and then there is your contribution every now and then – like the one to me just now – and I think to myself.. these people are either completely mad, or are a part of a conspiracy.
I go for the conspiracy.

I think you (all) are linked to BNP or the Conservatives through an organised network to destabilise UKIP. You can deny it as much as you like – but I consider the signs are there clearly enough to indicate that, and using the Serlock Holmes technique .. when everything else has been eliminated and you are left with only one alternative, then that has to be the truth of it. You are part of it Geoffrey, whether you actually know it – or not.

As for all your doomsday scenario you have portreyed …. we shall see. None of your predicitions has come to pass yet. Maybe you might get lucky and something might come of it. I doubt it very much; and if it does, I doubt any of it will be a problem to UKIP.

The world situation with the banking sytem in dissarray, and the Euro close to collapse, our job in UKIP might just be superfluous anyway as we watch the whole thing collpase in recriminations between the EU member states arguing about how to save the financial system from collapse and hanging onto their money and economies.
Your bleatings/protestations and those of the other malcontents pale into insignificance………

Best regards,
Douglas.

P.S. ignor spelling/typos canot be bothered to check… you’ll get the meaning of it all.
P.P.S I am not bothered if you want to promulgate this, it will be interesting to see what you do …

So clearly Douglas Denny is yet again proven a liar.

Clearly there are many other examples of lies by Douglas Denny, in fact anything of merit from Denny seems invisible.

I have followed EUkip with some detailed attention, firstly in optimism seeing it as possibly the only lifeboat for our Country but increasingly I realised that the very lifeboat I had supported had amongst its crew a disease as dangerous and contageous as Yellow Fever. There are times when it is essential for the common good to not just sink and destroy a ship coming into a port but also to quarantine all aboard.

As the disease has spread through the leadership, NEC & MEPs and even inexorably through most in its staff and some of its more ambitious supporters – the need to sink this particular lifeboat and quarantine its cres becomes more important.

Douglas Denny is not the only liar in EUkip’s so called leadership and it is hard to identify ANYONE who could be described as honest amongst the MEPs, NEC and leadership as they have to a man colluded in the corruption.

It is interesting to note Denny’s sordid comment and utter indifference to dishonesty and corruption:

the latest unmitigated drivel of GLW about D.Campbell-Bannerman (and who in the public domain gives a toss what his name is? no one is the answer, and certainly not I ! );

Denny shows he has absolutely no understanding of ethics, save as a theoretical study, no knowledge of the need for honesty and no leadership skills as demanding trust.

It is not WHO David Bannerman’s ancestors are it is that he has deliberately lied for personal gain at the expense of the reputation of The Party – similar to the lies of Nigel Farage or the lies of Derek Clark, the dishonesty and corruption of Andrew Smith, Mick McGough and so many others.

It is the duplicity and dishonesty of individuals like Jeffrey Titford, Stuart Gulleford, Gerard Batten, Mark Croucher, Christopher Gill, Annabelle Fuller and of course on a serial and public basis the moronic comments of Bob Feel Martinis, Stuart Parr, Joshua Onyons and their ilk.

It is not that they have lied nor the lies they have told it is that this has become endemic as a defence of EUkip.

Denny is right – no one cares who David Bannerman’s ancestors are, few care who he is – it is the FACT that not only is he a liar and a cheat it is that EUkip and low lifes like Denny find it acceptable that through a process of dishonesty this dishonest failure of humanity has been PLACED as lead candidate in utter contempt of the members and the British Public.

It is that EUkip has such contempt for the public that it has parachuted in, contra its own rules, the discreditted Marta Andreasen and has not only dragged EUkip into the gutter thereby but has willingly befouled the reputation of Lord Pearson who has misguidedly trusted the scum that now steer this toxic lifeboat.

The real tragedy is that someone so bereft of values and so corrupt as Douglas Denny can be seen as acceptable company for members of EUkip’s leadership and NEC – that he openly lies and clearly has absolutely no understanding of morality or even simple honesty such that he shows he is so stupid as not to even keep his own corrupt council.

As with every other Blog I have written I am clearly open to challenge and willing to present for cross examination of the facts I have lead. As many will know – I have been able and willing to prove the truth of every Blog comment I have published to date.

I see it as praise indeed that I am accused of being obsessed with honesty and integrity, morality and probity – my ancestors would indeed be proud – well until they realised who had made the accusation as Douglas Denny’s word carries little value!!

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What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
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