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#0419* – UKIP – CHORLEY CHAOS IT SEEMS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/04/2011

#0419* – UKIP – CHORLEY CHAOS IT SEEMS!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP – SEEMS TO HAVE PROBLEMS OF ITS OWN MAKING IN CHORLEY!

CHAOS IT SEEMS MAY BE A MASTERFULL UNDERSTATEMENT – One Draw Back of A Dictatorship Is Arbitrary Decision Making Resulting From The Input Of Sycophants & Fools!!

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Hi,

I have felt since first I heard of the renegade publican, and UKIP’s support for him, that there was more to this than meets the eye and after the experiences with the indolent and utterly corrupt failed publican Mark Croucher and subsequently the idiocy of Bob Feel Martinis and his belligerent and oafish behaviour when so regularly proven to be wrong and no more than an ambitious self seeking liar.

LEAVING PRISON
 Nick Hogan with his wife Denise

Surely UKIP might just have learned some caution with regard to Publicans.

In the light of his dishonesty and corruption one might be forgiven for believing the liar and low life Mick McGough might well be a publican but to judge from the vile idiocy and intemperance of his behaviour one could be forgiven for believing he spends too much time supporting the publican’s cause!

I have had this ‘e’Maiil for a while and also other ‘e’Mails in corroboration as on its own I would have felt disinclined to post it. However I have every reason to believe that Colin Denby has been shabbily treated and one need only see how the filth that comes to the fore in support of the leadership of UKIP defame, lie, cheat, bully and drag the reputation of UKIP into the gutter they inhabit to realise that on the balance of probabilities every word Colin Denby has published is true.

I note the odious creeps Skeptyk & Mick McGough are desperately trying to defame and denigrate John West – dishonest fools that they are.

So very in keeping with the filth that Farage has gathered around him in his utter incompetence as a leader.

There are few characteristics more damaging than vanity, duplicity and incompetence from a weak and venal leader – such a tragedy when Farage had so much to offer as a performer that he was allowed to befoul the party by surrounding himself with maggots to hide the corpse he is creating that is UKIP. The stench of corruption is not only omni present but has now proved intollerable for many decent activists and even members of The NEC are so stupid and gullible they have no knowledge of what is going on.

I understand that some did not even know that Nigel Farage pays his wife Kirsten £30K a year, which I guess is not that surprising as it was Farage who issued the promise on behalf of UKIP that no one in UKIP would employ family members and even his own office staff did not know she was being paid and were unaware of ANY UKIP work she might have done!

To the issue in hand – I will of course be only too happy to publish further facts on ‘The Chorley Debacle’ as they come to hand, to ensure veracity where possible.

From: Colin Denby [mailto:REDACTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011
To: Greg Lance-Watkins
Subject: Hogan & Co. my letter.
Ladies & Gentlemen of Chorley.
You may have read in various local newspapers recently, that whilst in The Parkers Arms, Park Road, Chorley, on the 4th. April (there to collect leaflets for the election, not drinking the night away). I allegedly used a word that is deemed Politically Incorrect and allegedly racist regarding the recent EDL, meeting in Blackburn.
for the past few days I have been pondering whether to take this matter further. After much deliberation and consultation (208 people have either telephoned me, e-mailed me, written to me or stopped me in the street, so far!) I have finally decided on the following:
To all the people in Chorley who have known me over many years locally, I rest my case and leave it to you to draw your own conclusions based on the facts!
To all the people in Chorley who know, or have had commercial dealings with or have read about Mr. Hogan in the last year or two, I rest my case and leave it to you to draw your own conclusions based on the facts!
With regards to racial prejudice, when I stood as a PPC for UKIP in the General Election for Rochdale last May, as I was about to leave the stage in the early hours of the morning when, to my surprise, abuse was hurled at me by a group of Pakistani men. Cries of “go home white UKIP trash,” “go home UKIP bastard,” these words of endearment were repeated several times! Whilst this tirade was taking place, two Police Officers at the back of the hall did a smart about turn and vacated the room, leaving me to face the ‘mob’ which of course I did, with a perfectly clear conscience never having had any racist beliefs in my life from my early years in the Army to retirement and on to today!
The powers that be at UKIP did not pursue the matter? At the time I wondered why …….. Now I believe I understand why!
Intrigued? ……
Then log onto http://UKIP-vs-EUkip.blogspot.com and http://JuniusOnUKIP.blogspot.com ………. you will be amazed at the facts presented all annotated and cross referenced and backed with proof. Telephone numbers, e-mail addresses and web sites are used to establish the reliable nature of the facts presented!
To all of you thinking of voting for UKIP on May 5th. ….. in the light of the facts you may wish to think again!
Colin Denby

Copy to: Chorley Guardian, The Citizen and Greg Lance-Watkins (Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com)

May I suggest you check out the details for yourself and in the light of the facts before you make your own decision as to whether UKIP’s behaviour has shown competent leadership or its normal crass incompetence.

Maybe start here:

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#0246* – The LEADERSHIP’S LIARS SPIN AGAINST Dr. David ABBOTT

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/01/2011

#0246* – The LEADERSHIP’S LIARS SPIN AGAINST Dr. David ABBOTT!  
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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The LEADERSHIP’S LIARS SPIN AGAINST Dr. David ABBOTT!
Be it Blob FM, Douglas DENNY, Mike McGOUGH or one of the other filth and liars it matters little – as they so befoul the aims of UKIP and bring the tattered remains into disrepute!
 

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Hi,

since some of the more dishonest filth and liars that comprise Farage’s leadership support are desperately telling lies and trying top fit myself, Niall Warry and others into their sordid imaginings with outright liars, as so frequently proven like Douglas Denny, Mike McGough, Baron and tyhe inimitable dullard Bob Feel Martinis, who has emerged from his hibernation to spread his dishonesties and corruption, lies and self serving imaginings after a prolongued period – no doubt seeking to have his personality fixed and his Manglish Meritocrised!

McTrough must have spent his whole life in a gutter to have so imaginatively developed his sense of inadequacy that he tries to denigrate without a shred of fact whilst himself having shown he is a liar and a cheat all too willing to raise himself dishonestly at the expense of his colleagues – an odious little man who has never displayed a shred of anti EU achievement even effort but denigrates all who do!

For irrefutable proof the man is a liar and a cheat CLICK HERE

To note these scrofulous individuals berating decent people is quite sickening as we are all too well aware of what a fantasist and liar Douglas Denny is and how he brings UKIP into disrepute time and time again – whether defaming the dead, telling lies about myself, Niall Warry or the like, inventing his self serving drivel to dupe the gullible or merely trying to re write history to pretend he was not thrown out as the Returning Officer by a majority vote of UKIP NEC, for corruption and dishonesty. Or desperately pretending he acted honestly in his dishonest efforts to protect Tom Wise and hide the FACT that Tom Wise, aided by Lindsay Jenkins, had stolen tax payers’ money and embezzled it.

Denny endlessly shows his low morality by claiming that money is his motivation as he can countenance no other reason why a number of supporters of UKIP put in a great deal of effort and time TRYING to get Britain OUT of The EU and realising that Farage’s Party is a part of the problem and no part of the solution – hence you will note Farage’s Party was consigned to page 23 of 24 with a small entry at the bottom of the page in The Expresse’s Leave-The-EU supplement! See CLICK HERE

Now we see these vile excrecences of humanity posturing about failed book shops and fantasising about me – all with staggering inaccuracy which makes them so clearly fools.

For literally years these congenital idiots and serially corrupt individuals have TRIED to portray me as in some way dishonest but their endless scuttle-but and fantasies have absolutely failed to identify a single solitary dishonest, corrupt or untrue statement of ANY consequence regarding UKIP or those like themselves who have befouled it.

To date NO ONE has EVER identified a consequential error, let alone a single dishonest comment I have EVER made – is it any wonder that such serial liars get ever more crazed at their failure when they KNOW they have been proven again and again to be liars, cheats, corrupt and self serving fantasists.

The astonishing thing is just howmany of these low lifes have been drawn to supporting the filth that has seized control of UKIP for their own gain.

Perhaps if you are too confussed and/or naturally dishonest you may not take my word for the FACTS, that you have failed to find an instance where I have failed to tell the truth yet you are not man enough to tell the truth yourself – could I suggest you follow some of the links on The Right Sidebar and also be man enough to identify FACTS to back your vile behaviour for I can not for a moment expect scum such as you to apologise for your lies as already you have shown your lack of moral fiber or understanding of ethical integrity.

Cowardly creeps and keyboard warriors, preening their prose to impress their shaving mirrors – is it any wonder they are held in utter contempt when with all their efforts the very worst denigration of me in their ad hominem attacks seems to be that I have a pony tail, no stomach muscles due to cancer and that they can not understand the concepts of Patriotism and duty assuming everything is done for monetary gain based upon their own motivation. What trash!

As I have said for many years I am happy to debate their fantasies with them in a regulated public forum and show them for the vile specimens they are if they hhave the integrity but in all those years the cowards seek out places where they can lie and defame without fear of fact – as with the creep Butcher’s UKIP controlled Forum where he harbours any lie or dishonesty which UKIP’s vile leadership parasites and supporters choose to place there.

Perhaps you will find the comments of the elected NEC member Dr. David Abbott of interest as some seek to denigrate his book of which they know nothing – but then again why would such know nothings not be embarrassed at the achievements of honest men and women who show them for the pond life they truelly are.

REPORT:

I am David Abbott a member of UKIP’s NEC, elected and re-elected by the members of UKIP.
On both occasions I had stood for election on a platform of transparency, democracy and probity.
Other candidates have been elected on similar platforms in the past, but the emotional toll of the ridicule and abuse from the party leadership has resulted in most of the good people resigning. Resignations since I have been on the NEC include Anthony Butcher, Linda Guest, Gill Chant, Richard Suchorzewski, and Bryan McCormack.
The result is that there were, until yesterday, only three members of the NEC who had any backbone. Eric Edmonds, Del young and me. The rest are, for the most part, just nodding donkeys who never disagree with the leader and never vote other than how he wants.
As of now Del is the only member with any courage who remains. It will
be lonely for him with no one to second motions or give moral support.
The circumstances of the removal of Eric and me are as follows:
There were complaints on the agenda against both of us. In my case Rachel Oxley had made the complaint that I had circulated a letter calling for the rules of the party
to be adhered to!
The item was added to the agenda less than two days before the meeting and the addition was not drawn to my attention by the secretary or anyone else in the leadership cabal.
It was another attempted ambush.
However, her complaint, made under section 7.18.1 of the UKIP constitution was not valid and I had prepared a statement, which I planned to read to the NEC. However I never did present my case as events took a strange turn.
In addition to efforts to get rid of Eric Edmond and me, the leader had also asked for the resignation of Martin Haslam, the deputy treasurer. Martin is a gentle, honest and very generous man. He has restored our faith in the accounts, at least in the current ones.
The leader’s beef was that Martin had taken a phone call from a reporter
and had not reported it to Farage.
By chance the phone call had come just as Martin had just finished a game of tennis with Buster Mottram, who had overhead the conversation and could vouch for was had been said. Martin felt very aggrieved at his dismissal and had come to NEC with encouragement of several members, not just the three stalwarts, but also some of the nodding donkeys too.
At first he was denied permission to speak but eventually he made a moving
speech, reminding the leader how much he had contributed in time and money to
the party, he had paid for Nigel’s driver, paid the salary of Marta Andreason,
paid for a fund raising dinner at the House of Lords, and done the SE accounts
as well as the national ones free of charge etc.
Farage belittled his contributions and did not once say thank you.
Then came the appalling statement from Farage that he had known the day before that the reporter was going to phone. But instead of alerting his colleague he had waited to see if the call would be reported to him. It was a trap.
This sneaky, untrusting treatment of a kind, honest man so incensed me that I left the meeting.
I could not sit at the same table as a man who demanded trust but could not trust others, who did not recognize as valuable anyone who didn’t totally agree with him on every single issue.
These new revelations were on top of all his more obvious defects including total
amorality, bullying, adultery, and drunkenness, vengefulness and lying.
Also there was so much uncontrolled, violent shouting from the redfaced, arm waving
Zuckerman and the ill mannered and threatening Nutall, that I felt physically
insecure.
I did not resign from the NEC, but when I got back from the meeting I found that the complaint against me had been upheld! I enclose the statement I had intended to make to the NEC.
EU employee Bannerman’s complaint about Eric had also been upheld!
We have both apparently been fired from the NEC. I want to make it clear that our firing had nothing to do with Buster Mottram’s idea of a pact with the BNP which neither of us endorsed or supported and which I spoke against.
We were each fired as a result of a complaint by another NEC member.
Neither of us presented our defence.
In my case I was not given adequate notice and the complaint was patently not valid in any case.
David Abbott MRCP
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Statement I intended to read to the NEC NOV 3rd 2008
All of us sitting here today agree that you can’t have an effective organization without rules and procedures that are fair and followed. Rachel accuses me of breaking the rules because I distributed a piece asking that our party rules and constitution be
adhered to,…including observing normal British conventions of fairness.
We may find it telling that she and the chairman are now attempting one of the NEC’s signature ambushes… by only giving me one day’s notice of the complaint.
Our constitution does not forbid NEC members from commenting on the leadership.
My comments were not an attack on the party, but a plea to keep to our own rules.
Let me remind you of the circumstances that led me to write the letter.
By refunding the fees paid by two of the candidates, the party has already admitted
that rules were broken in the MEP selection process.
The returning officer ‘s report says that rules were changed in mid game, …which was one of the observations I had made. He seems to recommend rerunning the entire election process in London …because of all the rule breaches.
Our rules do not permit a foreigner living abroad to be a member of the party, …let alone become the treasurer, or an MEP candidate. The preferment of an Argentinean Dane who lives in Barcelona …and who has told this committee that she does not share UKIP’s core goals is against the spirit and the rules; and is causing much disturbance in the SE.
The lead candidate in the East works for the EU and thus his terms of employment include that he shall conduct himself solely with the interest of the EU in mind …and shall not take instructions from any organization or person outside the EU.
He is thus not eligible to be on this committee, especially not as deputy leader and certainly he cannot be an MEP candidate. The fact that he is repeatedly introduced as the relative of a famous man, (which claim appears to be without basis), is the icing on the cake…. I would like to know who it was in our organization that checked his credentials and identity as required bya resolution of this committee.
Our press officer loses a computer …with confidential data on it … and somehow someone in Morocco puts up a video of another East region candidate on U tube. And the party didn’t even apologize.
In fact our leader seems to sympathize with this woman in a newspaper article
rather than with the wronged candidate.
The candidate is now suing….. More trouble because we haven’t kept normal standards of decency.
The constitution states that the chairman is appointed by this committee, but the membership was told of the appointment of our new chairman before the NEC had even met him, let alone discussed his appointment.
Our leader issues an edict that MEP’s wives must not be on the MEP’s payroll. Then he is caught paying his own wife.
And this committee says and does nothing.
Del, the founder and energetic leader of Young Independence, was ambushed without notice.
Eric is similarly pounced on without the notice required by common decency. The man who was our treasurer at the time knowingly accepted illegal donations, …..landing our party in trouble with El.Com.
Alan is kindly picking up the tab.. but this money could have been spent on the cause if we had just kept to the rules in the first place.
Rules and conventions are broken time and time again. This lack of attention to rules
and procedure is only one aspect of the shambles of a leadership that we now
suffer,…. but it is an aspect that this committee can and should deal with, if
our party is to survive, …let alone succeed in its noble goals.
And that is the reason I wrote the letter.

.***END of Dr. David ABBOTT’s Report on EUkip NEC Meeting.

To view this as first published 05-Nov-2008 CLICK HERE

You may also find the listing of FACTS of interest at CLICK HERE
 Below is the email alluded to by David above, which the vituperative and incompetent Rachel Oxley had made much of – the foolish woman is without merit to UKIP but of much use to the leadership – Another puppet for Farage with only a little more intelligence than the unfortunate Jill Seymour –  

who I note some liar by the name of Steve Morson claims Junius announced would be Party Secretary!! Perhaps this liar would be so good as to identify where anyone at Junius made such a comment.
Perhaps having run off at the mouth Steve Marson would be so good as to provide the FACTS that justify his cowardly showing off where he claimed:

To QUOTE this Steve MARSON clown:

As for Neil Warry, what he writes are opinions based on a certain prejudice (I don’t think he’s a huge Nigel fan!). But GLW / Junius is a different kettle of fish. I’ve taken to renaming them ‘bogs’, because of what you usually find in (almost all of) them. I’ve hardly ever seen Junius report anything close to facts; for example: the day after the Birmingham leadership hustings, Junius reported that Jill Seymour had been asked to be party Secretary.

Well……no! As announced to the meeting, Secretary of the Party Fundraising Committee. Never let the facts….

Junius is blatant anti-UKIP propaganda, as seen in the run-up to the election on 5th May, it was against the whole party not just the “corrupt leadership”. I think people, generally, are intelligent enough to see it as such.

A very stupid little chap making a fool of himself to impress – he went on to finish his comment with childish obscenities!

HERE FINALLY is David Abbott’s now open letter on which the odious Fat Lady Sings!

Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:42 PM

Subject: Football , cricket and UKIP

Dear NEC members and other friends,

Several times my website has pointed out that most of the world’s popular games and sports began in Britain because we Brits understood the importance of rules. You can’t have a game without them.

Rules have to be fair, agreed and understood ahead of time, and obeyed. If the rules are broken, there are penalties. The rules are not to be ignored or changed in the middle of the game. The umpire or referee has to be unbiased.

This is the British way, and it has worked for centuries. Without rules that are understood and willingly obeyed, nobody wins and nobody has a good time.

Lack of success and a distinct lack of a good time now distinguish UKIP.

Where UKIP has rules, they are ignored if it suits the leadership. Often there are no rules and no rule book. Minutes are not always kept. Rules are selectively applied to favour the few and to afflict others. Lack of fair play is sapping the life of our party.

A recent manifestation was the selection process for the MEP lists. A man who had once been my hero was going to be the trusted umpire who would ensure that the rules for the selection process were fairly applied. Instead there were significant breaches of those rules. Lynnda Robson described breaches that affected her in some detail, and we have all had communications about rule-breaking from many other complainants.

This uneven application of the rules is a disgrace. It seems to have been directed by the leadership.

Until our party leadership adopts again the ethics of its members, which is to say British habits of keeping to the rules, fair play and honesty, it is hard to envision any future success for the party.

This situation is tragic because we were looking to the party to lead us out of the morass of the EU. Instead the leadership seems to have adopted the EU’s reckless attitude toward rules and indifference to ethics, particularly Judaeo-Christian ethics.

I am sending this to several interested party members. If you are an NEC member, please vote with your conscience at NEC meetings, and do not succumb to the continuing pressure that legitimises rule-bending. If you are not a member of the NEC, but have friends who are, please encourage them to do the right thing.

Yours sincerely,

David

David F Abbott MRCP

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