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#0719* – UKIP A PARTY at WAR WITHIN – The Squabbling Continues!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/12/2011

#0719* – UKIP A PARTY at WAR WITHIN – The Squabbling Continues!
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UKIP A PARTY at WAR WITHIN – The Squabbling Continues!

Yet again UKIP Leadership make so called policy on the hoof with NO political sense & much greed!!

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a cleart symptom of the irrelevance of UKIP in its present form is that its current leader has fallen out with at least 1/3rd. of his so called team and good performer he may be on some issues but leader he clearly isn’t – just see the policy mayhem in the public domain – the string of OLAF inquiries ito the thefts and scams of UKIP MEPs – consider the clear lack of democracy within the party – WOULD YOU want UKIP in ANY serious position of Governance.

Clearly UKIP leadership are a joke!

Endless childish stunts – criminal drunks as staff – No one of honour or integrity openly supports UKIP with its clowns like Mick McGough even the idiotic Douglas Denny has gone to ground and the list of people who have left them when they have a clear knowledge of the inside workings is quite scarey see CLICK HERE

Having lived firstly in The Aman Valley in 1981 and a subsequent 30 years based in Monmouthshire, on the edge of Wales I have taken a particular interest in the region – particularly as my Father was born in Llewynypia in 1921 – I have always taken an interest in Wales & Welsh political antics!

As a result of my interest and home I was, with Carys Pugh & Betty Bowen a founder of The NO Campaign for the destruction of Wales which I saw to be the outcome of Devolution – as it has proved to be for Wales, Scotland and these United Kingdoms – just to please The EU and aid it in the destruction of The UK.

To raise the profile we launched the slogan ‘JUST SAY NO’ and had a huge amount of merchandise and giveaways with the slogan all funded by private donation whilst the YES campaign was hugely funded by The Labour Party & Unions!

I also registered ‘The Welsh Assembly’ as a private Limited Company see CLICK HERE this led to it being an element of farce and the Government was forced to change the name to ‘The National Assembly for Wales’!

A measure of UKIP’s understanding of Welsh politics and Wales is they seem to understand so little they do not even know the construction or name of The Assembly nor point out it is an anti UK measure to aid The EU – they fail to even address Articles 263, 264 & 265 which are ALL that is pertinent in reality See CLICK HERE

United We Stand…
The United Kingdom. 

The United Kingdom Independence Party. 
It’s all in the name. However, we sometimes have to ask
“Which part of United Kingdom do you not understand?”
Deputy Party Leader Paul Nuttall’s policy proposal
“A Union for the Future” is a case in point…

The Devolution Settlement is a stupid mess.
On that we can agree with Mr. Nuttall.
As for the rest of his proposal, we profoundly disagree
both in sentiment and logic.

UKIP Wales has worked for 10 years on its policy to Abolish the Welsh Assembly and use Welsh Westminster MP’s to sort out Welsh issues One week a month would be set aside for this. 
English MP’s would have English days for English issues.
The Welsh Assembly has 10 years of nonsense, waste and policy failure to its credit and is in trouble.
We are living in exciting times. Brussels and the Euro are about to self-destruct and the Devolved Assemblies are losing credibility fast. 
It seems our Noble Cause is about to be won.
Mr. Nuttall says that Scottish, Welsh and Irish devolution has weakened the Union. 
Yet he says that English devolution will strengthen it. Far from strengthening it, we believe that an English Assembly would cause our Union to shatter. He has proposed a policy document from hell. We have been anticipating this kind of proposal for several years but
expected it to come from Brussels or the Welsh or Scottish separatists.
For it to come from UKIP Central is a deeply disillusioning experience.
Even those who like Mr. Nuttall’s proposal must admit that it will frighten and upset a lot of people. Why do this? UKIP occupies the perfect position right now! You can’t improve on perfect, you can only go backwards. 
So what is the point of “A Union for the Future”?
The English have, for many centuries, been very grown-up and patient on this subject. 
They have put up with, we admit it, the slightly tiresome antics of the Celtic Fringe because it was worth it in the interest of the higher cause of UNITY. We believe the great majority of the English still feel this way passionately.
UKIP and the United Kingdom can, in effect, sit quietly and allow Victory to fall into our laps. We have won the arguments. Our enemies are in disarray. We see it in the newspapers and on the television every day.
There is just one danger left. “Ourselves.” It is still possible to snatch Defeat from the jaws of Victory. How ? By developing and promoting new, wildly radical plans to tear up the British Constitution.
Whatever you strive for in life, you must always be very clear about
“..The Aim..”
and don’t allow yourself to be distracted from it.
We put it to you that UKIP’s aim is, and always has been:-..
“To preserve the United Kingdom INTACT !”
That, of course, means we must get out of the European Union. It also means that we must resist the Balkanisation of Britain.
We urge you to reject Mr. Nuttall’s policy proposal and support our efforts in Wales to remain a very close partner in the most successful Union the world has ever known
The following pages explain UKIP’s long standing policy on devolution.
Long Live The United Kingdom !
UKIP Wales There are two Principles, which underlie everything that UKIP stands for… 
One is the integrity of the UK, and the other is independence from the EU.
All policies must be judged in accordance with these principles.
The EU has long known that divide and conquer is the only way to create its Superstate. Under the EU’s stated plans, Britain is destined to be turned into 12 regions. After Labour came to power in 1997, the first of these devolved regional assemblies were created in Scotland, Wales, London and Northern Ireland.
UKIP Deputy Leader Paul Nuttall proposes that by breaking the UK into 5 Regions (London, England, Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland) and creating an English devolved Parliament, this will be a victory for UKIP, which will thwart the EU’s ambitions.
This is not the case.
It would, in fact, complete the next phase of Brussels’ plan to break up the UK.
Brussels always works on the ratchet principle. The next move by the EU would be to foment dissatisfaction in the North of England using present financial difficulties and to promote a split between North and South. Following that they would revive the ‘Regions of England proposal’ which failed last time. Then they would exploit any problems by installing unelected puppet regimes as they have just done in Greece and Italy.
The separatists in Wales also work on the same ratchet principle. Having just achieved more power in a biased referendum they are already asking for further powers. The lesson of history is that appeasement never works; it just leads to more demands.
Up until March of 2011, UKIP was the only mainstream political party that opposed the EU’s Regionalisation Plan for the UK.
The Party is now asking the membership if this should still be the case or if we should accept and push for separate devolved governments in the UK.
As a party, we are made up of people from all of the United Kingdom coming from many political backgrounds.
To adopt a policy that will be divisive, at the exact moment when we must be unified is folly. The EU is teetering on the brink, and diverting our efforts from our ultimate aim is madness. Britain leaving the EU is our aim, and dabbling in policies that will polarise the membership is an error of judgment.
Unless you live under one of the devolved
governments, you probably are not aware of the existing UKIP policy to address devolution.
The question we are asking, is:
“What was wrong with the existing policy?”
This is set out on the following page.
It does not pander to any other pressure groups. Paul Nuttall’s proposal was co-written by Eddie Bone and Scilla Cullen who are members of the Campaign for an English Parliament.
The existing policy is simple. It will not cost any more money but will save money – less politicians to pay. The civil service is already in place, and the MPs are already elected and paid to do their jobs.
It does not tamper with a formula that has worked for hundreds of years, and it addresses the injustices that some in England feel with the current state of affairs.
How it would work MPs are elected by first past the post in the same way and from constituencies that currently exist.
For three weeks each month MPs would meet in Westminster, as at present, to debate and vote on British matters (non devolved).
On the fourth week, the English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish MPs would meet in their home capital cities to deal with devolved matters.
There would be no further devolution of powers.
We would however lose the additional layer of politicians as the MPs would now do the job of MSPs, AMs and MLAs.
Purely English matters would be dealt with in England solely by English MPs.
Upper Chamber..
Every legislative body needs scrutiny otherwise poorly drafted and bad laws will result.
The House of Lords needs reform, not abolition.
English MPs.. Scottish MPs.. Welsh MPs.. Northern Ireland MPs.
British Parliament.
MPs elected from all of the UK Constituencies meet for 3 weeks of the month in Westminster.
United We Stand.
United We Stand.
Union for the Future.
Opposes the EUs Regionalisation Policy.
Will not distract us from getting out of the EU.
Answers the West Lothian Question without.
breaking up the UK.
No extra politicians/buildings/bureaucrats.
Maintains historic role of Parliament & MPs.
How Do They Compare?
Conclusion:
We believe passionately in the Union of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This Union has brought enormous benefits to us and to the wider world.
Our proposal is not regionalisation. It does not create new bodies or pander to separatist nationalists.
This is our answer to the West Lothian question, and the only way to preserve the Union.
We believe the membership of UKIP need to discuss this crucial policy at a “Constitutional Conference”, where the true feeling of the membership can be expressed.
“A Union for the Future” has the possibility of being very divisive for..
the Party.
After reading this counter proposal, we would be grateful if you could..
let us know what you think
We will collate the responses and use them to ensure that we do not adopt the “Union for the Future” without having had a fair chance to put an alternative to the Party.
You can either write to us, or email:
UKIP Wales,
29 Ponc Y Fron,
Llangefni,
Anglesey,
LL77 7NY
Email feedback@ukipwales.org
The more feedback we get, the greater our chance of changing a..
disastrous policy.

Thank you

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#0462* – COULD UKIP CALL 3-4,000 SEATS SUCCESS AFTER 18 YEARS?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/05/2011

#0462* – COULD UKIP CALL 3-4,000 SEATS SUCCESS AFTER 18 YEARS?
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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COULD UKIP CALL 3-4,000 SEATS SUCCESS AFTER 18 YEARS?
If they have ANY meaning to Leave-The-EU Politics they NEED such a foundation!

EVEN WITH THE COLLAPSE of The BNP & Lib.Dims. UKIP are nowhere near fit for purpose!

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at around 02:25hrs. with probabilities having been announced that UKIP might just scrape in with a position as one of the superannuated councillors in The EU Regional Assembly in Wales.

Farage has stated on Radio 4 that to obtain ONE of the 60 available seats would with 2 seats in Northern Ireland and around 24 seats on other Councils where there are over 9,000 seats available would be a success.

Well after 18 years!

We all have our own standards and ambitions mine was that UKIP would be our lifeboat to lead Britain out of The EU. Lets face it with even Farages two dozen councillors elected 3 assembly members and his 10 MEPs – this would be a record, they would have more than The BNP have lost in the last year!

That would be between 30 and 40 elected seats held out of the total of 19,500 Nationwide. In real terms someone might get away with saying ‘Just one more push’ might have had some credibility with 3-4,000 – though we all remember David Steel’s political suicide with the risible ‘Go back to your homes and prepare for Government’.

UKIP’s results with poll after poll showing 80% of our laws are made in The EU (most of the others are irrelevant adjustments and ALL must comply with The EU) and time and again polls show that a majority of people actually agree with UKIP’s core aims of Leave-The-EU which has been so diluted by their squabbling and diluting the message with fatuous posturings beyond their remit that the results over 18 years can ONLY be seen as abject failure.

At present rate of achievement UKIP will take more than 100 more years to achieve ANYTHING that could be called success.

The tragedy is that UKIP is clearly unfit for purpose under its present  self serving leadership and the corrupt and odious claque of parasites feeding at UKIP’s expense.

I wonder if any of UKIP’s leadership claque of sycophants have read Oliver Cromwell’s speech to the Long Parliament in The House of Commons in April 1653, those with integrity my have a pang of conscience at their betrayal of the people, or will their hubris, arrogance and greed overcome such behaviour.

I note that John Bufton’s blog on UKIP.org was last updated in March – Godfrey Bloom’s has no updates since December 2010 – Marta Andreasen’s seems to make no comment on UKIP’s domestic elections – Just what are these useless articles for? Did no one tell them there was an election in progress or did they make no money from such menial tasks as taking a visible role canvassing and campaigning.

Even Deadbeat Derek Clark managed to get someone to write a letter for him that was published and although he and his staff have all but destroyed UKIP East Midlands and reduced Leicester to a farce ending up with the hapless and discreditted Duffy taking over control.

Agnew’s only visibility was giving advice on democracy and advocating a YES vote for UKIP or the NFU we know not but speaking as an EFD Representative who the hell cares? It was a bit rich to see this proven thief who was shown also to have corrupted electoral law by money laundering, lecturing anyone but his defence lawyer on prostituting principles to obtain money!

Yes to be fair Farage has on many occasions proved to be a good performer but he has clearly been a risible cringeworthy disaster as a leader – how can anyone but either a liar, a fraud or a mental retard pretend that after 18 years 30 or so elected representatives out of the 19,500 is anything other than a catastrophic disaster.

Unless of course you happen to be one of the handfull who are on the gravy train on a self interest programme

WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE?
The Results Have Been 
ABJECT FAILURE
by any standards!

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#0458* – MIGHT UKIP be at RISK of a SEAT in Monmouthshire & Wales?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/05/2011

#0458* – MIGHT UKIP be at RISK of a SEAT in Monmouthshire & Wales?
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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MIGHT UKIP be at RISK of a SEAT in Monmouthshire & Wales?
Even more intriguingly if they do scrape in might that be a disaster for EUroRealism in view of the calliber UKIP fielded!!

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Hi,
It looks to me as if UKIP would be in with around 7% of the vote on top up, in any one of the 5 areas, but with such spectaculary lack luster candidates who to a man are politically poorly informed it seems unlikely.
That said John Bufton got in and that was clearly not based on political understanding or speech making ability. Nor even keeping abreast of issues.
Further harm is done to UKIP’s prospects in Wales by the offensive and beligerent nauture of their Regional Organiser Kevin Mahonney who has worked so hard to abuse and offend UKIP supporters in Monmouthshire and Wales and even beyond.
UKIP’s presence has not been helped by its abject failure to keep its people informed and its dire web site, which at one time this year was over 3 months out of date, and it was not until this blog and also Junius highlighted the fact that someone in Wales woke up!

It has become increasingly clear that John Bufton besides the collapse in his health has had a crisis in faith with regard to UKIP’s new stance as supporters of racism, xenophobia, anti Judaism and violent anti homosexuality and it has reach such a stage that John Bufton as a withdrawalist was unwilling to join his party leader and the rag tag that forms his own Welsh committee for the launch of the UKIP campaign.

John clearly does not believe in the vaulte face of policy to supporting reform for the EU.
It is also risible that whilst UKIP not only espouse paper candidates to reach the mere 1,200 or so thery are standing in Britain they are happy to insult the electorate by placing a schoolgirl as their proposed candidate for Mayor to oversee the £Billion Budget of that city and deliver services via one of the East Midlands largest employers Leicester Council!

Meanwhile in Wales the exact opposite course is taken to not present a single solitary candidate but just a few pool candidates for indirect election on top up votes – the two policies are clearly mutually exclusive!

I have my doubts whether UKIP stands any chance of a candidate being elected – clearly it deserves none on its track record – also it is worth considering in the light of the irrefutable fact it has not fielded anyone of competence, gravitas, stature or charisma whether EUroRealism’s long term interests are best served by avoiding the risk of embarrassment that the likely candidates may heap on UKIP.
We have seen the damage done to UKIP’s credibility with the crass ineptitude of such as Wee Willy Dartmouth, David Bannerman, Tom Wise, Godfrey Bloom, Stuart Agnew, Derek Clark, Nigel Farage and the duplicitous Marta Andreasen and the false loyalty of John Wittaker and Paul Nuttall – particularly in their support of The Pan EUPolitical Party EFD Group – merely prostituting principles and ethics for perceived cash!

WALES

National Assembly elections
This is the first poll since 2007, after which Labour formed a coalition with Plaid Cymru.
As in Scotland, voters will be required to fill in two separate ballot papers.
Forty Assembly Members (AMs) will be elected from single constituencies under first-past-the-post. The second ballot will be used to elect four AMs from each of five electoral regions under a party list.
There have been no major boundary changes since 2007.
The new Assembly will have direct law-making powers in 20 devolved areas, such as health and education, after voters backed the move in a referendum in March.
Local council elections are due to take place next year.

Regards,

Greg L-W.
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#0316* – UKIP BEHAVIOUR IN WALES IS A DISGRACE AS USUAL!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/03/2011

#0316* – UKIP BEHAVIOUR IN WALES IS A DISGRACE AS USUAL!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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UKIP LEADERSHIP IS A SHAMEFUL DISGRACE
to The Patriotic Hard Working EUroRealist Movement
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It is now the 1st. March 2011

Yesterday I stopped 20 people in the street IN WALES and asked them how they would vote in the referendum – 16 knew nothing about the vote and of the other 4 only one knew when the vote was.

IT IS ON THURSDAY!!!!

I have received ZERO leaflets, seen no commentaries, received no information and only found out the vote was this week by accident I LIVE IN WALES!

This is a measure of the competence and representation on this farce of a local regional council set up by the EU.

It was NEVER voted for on a fair basis and it has proved as useless and venal as the Scottish, South West Regional Ass & the rest of the foolish self serving Kleptocratic QUANGOcracy.

The entire concept is a farce and makes a fool of Wales and Monmouthshire.

It is of no relevance and can NOT vote itself any meaningful authority as it is answerable to The Council For The Regions where it has TWO unelected representatives and no say!

Do read the legislation – see http://www.welshassembly.org.uk and read all 4 pages!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

You may wish to learn a little more CLICK HERE and read the comments!

UKIP Wales is treating this with all the relevance and importance that Nigel Farage and UKIP UK responded to The Lisbon Treaty with.

 Brahms & List
as Ever

It seems that they have done NOTHING!

Some explanation may be apparent at CLICK HERE

UKIP Should be ashamed but they are probably too busy rolling in the gutter squabbling, stabbing eachother in the back, attacking success, off on Jollies in Finland, Drunk, Claiming expenses for work not done, lining their pockets or concentrating on getting themselves elected for enrichment.

In truth UKIP Leadership should be ashamed of themselves and their inactivity – they are a total waste of space, money, and time.

UKIP LEADERSHIP IS A SHAMEFUL DISGRACE to The Patriotic Hard Working EUroRealist Movement.
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