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#762* – EUkip MAY LIE & SPIN BUT VISIT THE INFORMED REAL WORLD!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/12/2009

762* – EUkip MAY LIE & SPIN BUT VISIT THE INFORMED REAL WORLD!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip MAY LIE & SPIN BUT VISIT THE INFORMED REAL WORLD ON THE INTERNET SIMON MUIR IN CONVERSATION CONFIRMED BY PETER WATSON!!

Hi,

here is a conversation with most comments put forward by Simon Muir who many will remember was EUkip Bristol and also had a Branch of his own – it was Simon who did most of EUkip’s work organising the Colston Hall conference in Bristol in 2004, since when conference attendance would seem to have comprehensively diminished.

Simon’s great gift to EUkip was his background in IT with Hewlett Packard in marketing and also extensive experience as a technical executive with the BBC and also as a practical Producer – all the expertise anyone could have needed for the production of video clips, news handling,

Simon Muir said:

Start with UKIP. When you have a set that might be a viable opposition or government pro tem, then the others become the target.
Why do I get so exercised about them?
Because they are so FFFFing USELESS! And they need not be, apart from the corruption, and Farage-the-puppeteer messing up everything because he only sees intellectual equals as a threat.
Only the blind or stupid would waste time on them presently, and the sad thing is that they don’t care about the depth of the betrayal, because nobody in the party wants to be honest about their true position.
Games to play in UKIP:
– Spot the Economist. First person to score >0 is the winner.
– Spot the Politician. Same rules as above except the scoring is >1.
– Hunt the strategic plan. Hint: look down the back of the sofa and
in Farage’s trouser pocket: it can’t be anywhere else…
– Beat the Bishop, er MEP: Sit him/her in a chair and hit him
once with a rolled up newspaper for every bit of wasted expense
and irrelevant posturing in the EP. Stop when the police arrive,
or your arm gets too tired.
It’s twelve years since I was persuaded that UKIP were the only hope for the future. Since then, in actual measurable terms, all that’s happened is that the party’s grown fat on EU handouts, and, under Farage, reneged on its constitutional promise about withdrawal etc. With one or two honourable exceptions, such as Alan Woods and Denis Brookes, nobody has come even close to winning a real, FPTP, election. Such is the REAL impact the party has made.
As for claims they frighten the Tories: they evidently don’t bother Cameron – his leadership is arguably more pro-EU than even John Major’s cabinet was, and he’s just slammed the door on a referendum. He’s obviously terrified UKIP will steal Tory seats, not!
Insiders suspect too, that there are enough people who know where the buried UKIP bodies are to trash the party’s election campaign. Tom Wise probably won’t be the last UKIP MEP to have his collar felt: any manipulative anti-UKIP functionary would be saving the best till last.
Be sure that any dirt the Tory press have to spread around won’t be used now, when UKIP might just have time to recover before the vote. It will ‘surface’ two weeks before polling day, so that every UKIP candidate spends a fortnight defending the indefensible, before their inevitable electoral wipeout.
Do I sound angry & betrayed? You bet. The likes of Ken Clarke make their betrayal of the country no secret, in a sort of perverse honesty. You can hate them but you cannot misunderstand them.
UKIP, in contrast have taken the trust, time and effort (and money) of thousands of people like me and wasted it.
On that theme, what about the poor saps picking up the HUGE bill for UKIP’s rudeness to the Electoral Commission? How many UKIP people know the matter could have been settled out of court for LESS than £20,000? It might even have cost nothing at all, had simple courtesy been observed from the start. There is a timeline and detail of the whole farrago in the public domain, for anyone who cares to look.
Let’s think: would it be better to spend £1m campaigning, or to hand it to a Labour government as a fine? Nope. It beats me too.
Meanwhile, UKIP’s words remain weasely and they evidently have NO PLAN, and NO IDEA how to actually DO what they claim they want to do.
Oh, and should the best anti-EU defence we can muster in these islands be the racist thuggery of the BNP? Ten years ago, UKIP’s membership was climbing and the BNP’s diminishing. What has happened since, and why?
I’d like UKIP GONE as fast as possible, so we can start again with something true and honest, that people might actually ELECT.
Regards,
S.
Simon D. Muir Landline: +44 (0)117-962-9761
Bristol, Skype (muirsimon) DDI: +44 (0)207-193-4761
United Kingdom Mobile: +44 (0)796-601-2038
>As for claims they frighten the Tories: they evidently don’t bother
>Cameron – his leadership is arguably more pro-EU than even John Major’s
>cabinet was, and he’s just slammed the door on a referendum. He’s
>obviously terrified UKIP will steal Tory seats, not!
It’s not that Cameron’s not afraid of UKIP, he’d be out of touch with reality if he were not, it’s that he’s afraid of seeing his party split just before the election.
Ted

If you think his team hasn’t already assessed UKIP as NO threat, you’re deluding yourself.
Cameron’s pitch will be simple:
“Vote Tory to save the country; a vote for either of the other
two means you’ll get five more years of the same communist
destructiveness.”
They’ll circle the wagons and make no direct reference to UKIP unless forced to. The ‘do you want to split the vote?’ argument will keep the faithful on-board, PRECISELY BECAUSE UKIP IS SO USELESS.
If there was any risk of a decent campaign being run, or a shred of joined-up and sensible policy, UKIP might make headway. But there isn’t and it won’t. A vote for UKIP is simply a wasted vote. You might just as well scribble profanities on the ballot paper, for all the good it will actually achieve.
And anyway, as I said, the arm of the law is long and tends to grab people at most inconvenient moments…
Where is the EGM to put the party right? Why aren’t people demanding Farage personally pays for the court case? Where is the plan? What are the fat MEPs doing TODAY to get the UK out of the EU (hint: are they on expenses in Brussels or fighting the battle here, where it actually matters?).
WHAT SINGLE ADVANTAGE HAS THE INDEPENDENCE MOVEMENT GAINED FROM UKIP MEPs GOING TO BRUSSELS, ON ANY OCCASION, EVER?
The battle is here, not at enemy HQ. How could anyone ever think otherwise?
S.

WHAT SINGLE ADVANTAGE HAS THE INDEPENDENCE MOVEMENT GAINED FROM UKIP
MEPs GOING TO BRUSSELS, ON ANY OCCASION, EVER?

None.

Peter Watson
ex Chairman UKIP Dorset North

It says it all sadly – dedicated hard working, well connected supporters of UKIP turned into unrelenting enemies by EUkip’s behaviour.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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