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#664* – TRY TO FOLLOW THE WRIGGLING & DUPLICITY OF EUkip

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/10/2009

#664* – TRY TO FOLLOW THE WRIGGLING & DUPLICITY OF EUkip

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

TRY TO FOLLOW THE WRIGGLING & DUPLICITY OF EUkip WHO HAVE UTTERLY FAILED TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN SHOW THEMSELVES AS VICIOUS, VINDICTIVE, CORRUPT & DUPLICITOUS!

Hi,
over some 600+ Postings on what was EUkip Forum with the aid and assistance of corrupt moderation and a dishonest and corrupt owner of the forum Anthony Butcher EUkip’s duplicitous accolytes have wriggled, squirmed, misrepresented and lied in their desparation to deflect attention from the venal corruption of  their puppet masters. They have sheltered behind some of the most revolting personalities willing readily to lie such as Mark Croucher, who many will remember as  the piece of filth who set out to lie and disemble within EUkip and is one of the greatest and most damaging members of the party having brought it into disrepute with his close association with the vile extremist pro EU communist organisation Searchlight – openly sharing information with them and clearly supporting their anti democratic aims and their accolytes of UAF.

Then we have liars like Michael McGough who have needled and wheedled cheated their coleagues and lied for gain. Meanwhile trying desperately to clear the ordure from their image by seeking to shift blame to others – he has utterly failed in his juvenile name calling to achieve anything more than revulsion amongst those he has to deal with. His own constituency of Harlow went so far as to advise him that if he attended their meeting he would be asked to leave – rather than accept his dishonesty had brought this about he sought to smear others and try to paint the genuine concerns of decent honest members  as something other than disgust at the corruption in EUkip which he was party to and even an instigator.

Much of the vile behaviour on the forum has been carried out by EUkip supporters too ashamed to put their name to their actions or so universally despised as to have no reputation to defend.

I will quote just one cowardly entry from the Forum as an example:
A slime who hides their dishonest misrepresentation behind the pseudonym of Skeptic:
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QUOTE Skeptic:

Oh well this is extraordinary isn’t it? The defenders of transparency, honesty, integrity and probity have confirmed their inherent dishonesty. What-kins’ original appeal now must surely be re-read; allow me…

As you will note NO WHERE has ANY dishonesty been shown by those involved in what was called ‘the defence fund’ despite the desparate attempts to distract from what seems to have been £Millions syphoned off of EUkip, by their leadership.

Indeed it is well worth re-reading the initial text as suggested with the realisation that there was never any intent to do other than was suggested in the apeal – & I would like to thank those who had sufficient integrity that they made efforts to TRY to clean up EUkip to TRY to make it electable in its own right – which it most clearly isn’t, having had to depend on the dustbin vote of objectors to corruption in Westminster – largely indifferent to the industrialised corruption of EUkip & The EU.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Lance Whatkins

May I make an apeal – I am aware that Alison & John are young with financial responsibilities and upholding decency in UKIP in the Eastern Region and defending UKIP and themselves against the corruption endemic in The NEC is proving a burden to them as they are ensuring that they do not put a foot wrong, as it might put them at risk, and that legal advice must perforce be good and is thus not cheap.

Alison & John West are fighting this battle to save UKIP fom being subsumed and I believe that all who value freedom should make a contribution relative to their means and just how much they value liberty, honesty and integrity.

I shall be asking Major Niall Warry (Green Jacket Rtd.), who is beyond reproach to act as the collecting point and issue receipts for any and all monies contributed, if he will be so good as to do so, should this not suit YOU then I would ask you to make your contribution through either Dr, Eric Edmond or Mrs. Petrina Voelker who are both of utmost probity and the three can liase.

Thank you – any monies over and above the legitimate costs of Alison & Juhn will be contributed to the fund to clean up EUkip and re-establish probity, morality and integrity – The UKIP that was stolen from the members.

Major Warry, Doctor Edmond & Mrs Voelker together with the Wests will form the steering committee to liase on projects over and above the reasonable and legitimate needs of Alison & John.

Sometimes honesty costs!

Astonishing isn’t it that EUkip and its grubby little goffers should try to portray this as in some way dishonest.

I do concede that with hindsight I would have been well advised not to act alone and suggest a concept wherein I suggested others to participate.
That Petrina felt that due to her ‘legal’ position and that of her husband it would be unwise and unhelpfull to participate in a private fund raising effort for such a cause morally sensible as it might be – I believe she was right and of course having dealt more closely with the filth that is EUkip’s leadership and supporters she may well have had something of a gut feeling they would lie, cheat and tennaciously try to destroy any honest endeavour that exposed the truth.

As for Eric Edmond – there is no doubt in my mind that he accepted the role as proffered but in that no dations were channelled through him I am happy to accept he made an honest mistake of believing he was no longer involved. That it seems prety clear to all that he failed to tell anyone is not I think a point of dispute and that I had a false ‘e’Mail for him which he chose to play a Croucher style game of not clarifying is possibly in hind sight regretable!

Other than this once again may I thank those who made the effort to contribute to what I still consider the morally right thing to have done. The subsequent mud slinging from the EUkip gutter speaks volumes of the catastrophic state the Party is in and just how right it was of honest people to club together to TRY, however insignificantly, to support those who took the moral high ground at cost to themselves.

QUOTE Skeptic:

And now we have confirmation from Niall Warry…

Indeed we do and I can endorse his statement and unlike Croucher, McGough, Farage and their ilk both Niall & I are able to claim with certainty that we have NEVER set out to lie, cheat, dissemble or corrupt and for all the endless attacks by some of the most sordid individuals associated with British politics and with over 1,000 Blog entries and several 1,000 postings on forums and as many ‘e’Mails over many years as yet no one has EVER been able to establish a single solitary witting dishonesty or lie that I have been shown to have made.

I think we can most safely vouch for the integrity of Niall Warry against any and all of EUkip’s duplicitous and corrupt leadership  team their hirelings and praise singers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall Warry
Being the only custodian only I really know the details of the DF…


No money was paid to anyone for their court costs. Incidental expenses is another matter.

This is an indisputable statement of fact however hard EUkip and its pond dredgings may wish to paint it – in fact their antics have done much to show just how unwise it would be to permit them any access to authority or money – neither of which should they be trusted with.

QUOTE Skeptic:

It is absolutely staggering that only now we are getting closer to the truth from the defenders of the truth! The original appeal made by Whatkins has now been seen to be the scam that it truly is. If we are to believe Warry – and let’s face it, none of the Four Horsemen (Whatkins, Warry, West and Edmond) have given us any reason to believe them – Whatkins original appeal made on this forum and on his blog was totally mis-advertised with Edmonds and Holdsworth falsely advertised as custodians and not only that, NOT ONE PENNY has gone towards Capt’n Vexatious and his legal costs.

For all the efforts to distort the truth you will note name calling is about the sum total of their achievement. The original apeal made on the Forum was exactly as it stated and not one word of it was other than true.

Eric Edmond remained a custodian by dint of failure to state otherwise and that he did not find himself to be a conduit is a matter of total irrelevance – it seems those who donated were happy to donate via Niall Warry or to fund individuals of their choice directly. Petrina announced clearly, as did I within some 48hours that she was not able to participate so to desperately paint this as some great cullomny is dishonesty all too typical of EUkip and the filth who so often use underhand methods to seek self enrichment or dishonest portrayal in their wake.

QUOTE Skeptic:

Warry can blabber all he wants about all custodians being happy with the funds eventual destination but now we can all see that the appeal was falsely advertised.

Without doubt it is clear that Skeptic is not only a coward but a liar and shown to be – no wonder anonimity is the only sheild they have as clearly the truth is no sheild for them!

QUOTE Skeptic:

Absolutely sickening. These people think they own honesty, they own transparency and they own integrity. They do nothing of the sort. I hope that our fellow forum members can now see this clique of anti-UKIPpers for what they really are – wholly dishonest.

Skeptik has made it abundantly clear that Niall warry, Petrina Holdsworth, Geoffrey Collier, John West, Eric Edmond and myself have every right to claim the high ground, ring fenced by honesty, transparency, and integrity having acted ethically and with morality whilst being lied about, villified and misrepresented by proven liars and their sock puppets who shelter their venal dishonesty behind their anonimity.

Perhaps Skeptic you would be honourable enough to declare with clarity your identity and why you have seen fit to distort and smear an honest and decent action taken based on principle and belief – an action that was taken with absolute transparency in that you have gone so far as to dishonestly dismantle the apeal that transparently and with good intent set out to make clear both the aim, the method and the intent – with such clarity as was required since it was made abundantly clear to any private donor that they should contact and make sure they were entirely happy with the process of the fund.

Having been proved liars one wonders if those distracting from EUkip’s corruption, dishonesty and self enrichment might be prepared to put their name to simple honest answers to a few questions rather than paint corruption where clearly none exists on a private matter of private funds which were handled in EXACTLY the way that it was clearly stated they would be.

Inventing further ways to twist the truth will merely show EUkip ever more clearly for the filth they really are.

Let us start out with 10 simple questions:

01. How much money was stolen from the £250,000 of tax payers’ money provided to EUkip for a petition which never took place?

02. Whose pocket did the money wind up in?

03. Where is the accounting for the numerous lotteries which EUkip has held? Did this run to £Millions and if not what proof is there of this – was the money trousered and by whom?

04. What was £211,000 of unaccounted money listed as other expenses (over 50% of the income) used for and is there ANY proof that it was not stolen and wound up in someone’s pocket?
05. Since it is an openly stated FACT as attested to in public and reported in the press by David Bannerman, chairman at the time (albeit unelected) that less than 15% of all the money that was collected from the public and members of EUkip by Ashford in its various metamorphosese EVER reached EUkip – Exactly howmany £Millions were collected in (Note Farage is on public record stating it was one of the most successfull things EUkip ever did).
How Much was collected?

06. EXACTLY howmuch was perloined in one way or another and into whose trouser pockets did it go?

07. Nigel Farage, Michael Holmes & Jeffrey Titford set up a fund called, as I recal, ‘A Defence Fund’ into which they agreed to pay all over paid expenses ie £700 paid for airline tickets @£40 to use but one example as quoted by Farage.
With some £650 reimbursement on this alone and with 3 MEPs over 5 years that would amount to some £1,800+ a week or based on a 30 week month and no other travel! Thus some £270,000 – who trousered this money?
IF the payments office banned them paying funds in this way – Who trousered the money they were ordered to keep?

 
08. When and where was the announcement that this fund had been closed down and who continued to trouser the money at the rate of about £1,800 a week and from 2004 to 2009 at the rate one must assume of £650+ average (minded Farage lives the closest to Brussels) thus with 12 MEPs a sum of £7,800+ a week thus based upon a 30 week year some £1,170,000  – who trousered this money?

09. It is no secret that Graham Booth laundered money through his credit card machine in Torquay that had been donated to EUkip via Ashford – can you advise exactly howmuch was involved was it in fact £Millions since most donations to a call centre are presumably by credit card – where has this reflected in EUkip’s accounts and as seemingly it was only a part of the under 15% that was not in some way seemingly perloined who trousered this money and howmuch?

10. EXACTLY how much money was raised by EUkip Wine World and where does it reflect in the accounts? Has this money also been trousered especially in the light of the fact tjhat the manager of this apparent scam is facing criminal charges related to his EUkip job which he held until March 2009 and that he has also boasted to the media that he has over 1,000 bottles of fine wine he has acquired (his words as I recall) since he became an MEP!

Let us see if the liars and cheats who have been trying to distort the truth regarding the private funding of the private defence fund to aid those seeking to clean up EUkip which has at ALL stages been legitimately and honestly handled in accord with the initial apeal and to the satisfaction of all involved.

Now let us see these odious EUkip cheats who have acted resolutely and dedicatedly in a manner that can be shown to be serially dishonest and anti UKIP are able to put direct, sucint answers to these questions which seemingly show a hole in the accounts that could amount to upwards of £10 Million trousered – no wonder they were willing to lie and cheat to cover such a level of apparent criminality.

At the moment on a rough count I have something over 50 similar questions that require answers from EUkip, a publicly funded body utilising and seemingly stealing tax payers’ and members of a Public Organisation’s money on a near industrial basis.

Let us see just where  transparency, probity, integrity and honesty morally and ethically reside.

Perhaps one of the many readers of this blog  will have the integrity to post it onto the Forum, from which I am dishonestly and corruptly barred based upon the lies of Paul Nuttall EUkip’s unelected Chairman, Anthony Butcher the owner of the Forum who with Brendan Padmore carry out his bidding and provide a platform to smear my name and lie about me.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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