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#0740* – Of Trevor Colman’s Video & Over ambitious goffers!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/02/2012

#0740* – Of Trevor Colman’s Video & Over ambitious goffers!
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Sadly I see UKIP have lifted Trevor Colman’s video and rebadged it for themselves, but being unfit for purpose as representatives of these United Kingdoms they make it clear they are unfit for purpose and unable to debate without abuse and drunken outbursts:

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Ian Milne’s paper on this subject was available widely in Oct 2009 – The update of OPct 2011 is readily available and a much more exciting read than this rather dull talking head version which is hard to remember any new facts from.
A good effort by Trevor Colman now he is no longer with UKIP in the EFD – However the rather dated style will make it a hard sell even as a free DVD – May I suggest a web site untainted by UKIP and ALL facts annotated alongside the talking head video.
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Firstly UKIP has lied – I am blocked by UKIP’s web master who is NOT the owner of the video but has lifted it, as it was on Trevor Colman’s web site which I have advertised on this blog’s sidebar since it first launched!) and rebadged it. It is UKIP who lack the integrity to debate opinions, just as all too often they mount dishonest ad hominem attacks whilst sheltering behind anonymous cowards amongst their sock puppets!

View the video yourself and draw your own conclusions and if you disagree with my stated opinion you are welcome to have your own opinion and if you care about UKIP and the concept of Leave-The-EU then by all means try to make your points and discuss it in an adult (very un UKIP) manner!

For my own part and open to discussion my actions were:

On seeing Trevor Colman’s latest rather limp video, a couple of days ago, having long ago read Ian Milne‘s thesis on leaving The EU which he published in October 2009 and which with permission I republished long ago: CLICK HERE, I noted he had republished an update of October 2011 of which I have a copy ISBN 978-1-906837-32-7 I felt it apposite to let the matter pass and his video slide into inevitable obscurity with a brief transient Twitter:
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Greg_LW Perhaps UKIP, Nigel Farage & Trevor Colman could learn something about making popular videos, that people watch, from: tinyurl.com/6q45ge5 yesterday · reply · retweet · favorite
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Greg_LW Yesterday’s technology used to convince the converted that an MEP can do other than bore th-eu-nit.com/index.php/home sadly a total waste of time! yesterday · reply · retweet · favorite
Inote however that one of Nikki Sinclaire’s shared pool staff in the EU, who Igather works for Trevor Colman, had circulated a PR spin which was received by amutual friend and was circulated and sent onwards to The Junius blog, leadingme to quote on the blog as I fundamentally disagreed with the spin and Junius’regurgitation without even viewing the material! Or so one of them informed me! 
I commented as follows:
Hi,

it is sad that with all the resources at his disposal a long out dated and very boring talking head video passes for achievement!

You will note I tweeted on this tedious talking head video a couple of days ago!

The details that Trevor Colman is so recently catching up with was published in October 2009 and you can read it in full at:
http://themidnightgroup.blogspot.com/p/exit-survival.html
Ian Milne put forward the details and as you can see I published them long ago, his book is readily available heavily discounted on Amazon.

The video presented is boring in the extreme and its method of imparting info. is so out of date it fails to make its point.

The visuals are poor and the backup is worse – May I once again suggest that poor old Trevor’s career experience as an old school pedestrian plod show again and again in his misunderstanding and lack of ability in the field of marketing!

You need only look at which videos on You Tube get a following to realise this effort was misguided and inept – Even with massive advertising it is unlikely to reach many beyond the already converted looking for an angle they can use which sadly it lacks.

Well done for trying Trevor but why not let Sinclaire’s ACTUAL achievements guide YOUR ambitions rather than waste your timne and our money!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

Subsequently I saw the same hype published on one of Nikki Sinclaire’s blogs as follows:

Leaving the European Union – a new video

My good friend Trevor Colman MEP has produced a fantastic video, entitled “Time to Leave the EU” for his website www.Th-Eu-Nit.com.

The 18 minute film is the ideal tool to educate friends and family of the true horrors of the EU.

Against the background of a deepening crisis in the Eurozone and the fact that Britain is required to hand over increasingly larger sums of bail-out money, South West UKIP MEP Trevor Colman has produced a film which shows that Britain does not need to be involved in this political nightmare  at all.

The film which is based on the recently published book, “Time to Say No”, has aroused interest among those in the Houses of Parliment. It was launched online last week.

Written by the respected researcher Ian Milne and published by Civitas, the book de-bunks many of the myths surrounding the need for British Membership of the European Union and describes how easy and beneficial it would be for Britain to withdraw. The film is the ideal tool to teach friends and family how we can really leave.

Trevor said,

“Much of what is in the film has either been hiden or never publically discussed, that is why in addition to the internet launch, I am also launching a dvd version for free distribution to thee public. The infomation in that film is that important, especially now”

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  2. Hi,

    I had hoped that despite others having access to Nikki Sinclaire’s blog her standards of integrity and exchange of views would pertain, and honest opinion continue to be valued – perhaps that is why SHE is an MEP and her flunkies are but administrators!

    Regards,
    Greg_L-W.

TO CLARIFY:

Here is the comment I placed on Nikki Sinclaire’s blog and which one of her assistants removed:

Hi,

it is sad that with all the resources at his disposal a long out dated and very boring talking head video passes for achievement!

You will note I tweeted on this tedious talking head video a couple of days ago!

The details that Trevor Colman is so recently catching up with was published in October 2009 and you can read it in full at:
http://themidnightgroup.blogspot.com/p/exit-survival.html
Ian Milne put forward the details and as you can see I published them long ago, his book is readily available heavily discounted on Amazon.

The video presented is boring in the extreme and its method of imparting info. is so out of date it fails to make its point.

The visuals are poor and the backup is worse – May I once again suggest that poor old Trevor’s career experience as an old school pedestrian plod show again and again in his misunderstanding and lack of ability in the field of marketing!

You need only look at which videos on You Tube get a following to realise this effort was misguided and inept – Even with massive advertising it is unlikely to reach many beyond the already converted looking for an angle they can use which sadly it lacks.

Well done for trying Trevor but why not let Sinclaire’s ACTUAL achievements guide YOUR ambitions rather than waste your timne and our money!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

I do appreciate Nikki Sinclaire’s assistants DO NOT speak for her.

Also for the record I have, as is well known, little or no respect for the weak and self serving Trevor Colman and utter contempt for the way in which he has so befouled his Queen’s Commission being just another bent copper LONG EX.

I do however congratulate Trevor Colman, after having milked it for all it is worth, having eventually resigned from the racist, anti Jewish, anti Homosexual advocates of violence as a fundamental principle of politics with whom UKIP chooses to associate in supporting The EU.

I stand by my posting as made on the matter in response to the inane hand out regarding Colman’s belated and inept video which was PLACED on her blog somewhat demeaning its standards of discernment and integrity to date.
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#0715* – Graham BOOTH MEP rtd. Died 14-Dec-2011

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/12/2011

#0715* – Graham BOOTH MEP rtd. Died 14-Dec-2011
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IN MEMORIAM:
Graham BOOTH MEP UKIP rtd. 
Born 29-Mar-1940 – Died 14-Dec-2011!!

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Graham BOOTH MEP rtd. Died 14-Dec-2011

Booth was born 29-Mar-1940 and will I presume be sadly missed by some members of his family.

Booth became an MEP as a result of the ill health of UKIP’s interim leader Michael Holmes, who was forced to stand down – a seat which Booth was rapidly placed in being of independent means having had the good fortune to make considerable money out of his family land assets which included an old style resort motel and also through his building exploits.

Having inherited his position as an MEP in 2002 he had the good fortune to gain the seat as the incumbent in the election of 2004. Booth sought to leave no one in doubt as to how very important MEPs were and notably on one occasion defended even the odious little Scot Graham Watson’s betrayal of his West Country Constituents on the grounds that Watson was very important because he was an MEP!!

Whilst under investigation by OLAF for fraud Booth stood down and was succeeded by Trevor Colman – ostensibly Booth stood down due to the ill health of his wife and would have been unfased when he was found guilty of fraud and ordered to repay a substantial amount of money, as he had his overly generous EU pension and sold his business shortly after for around £5M.

Having retired in 2008 he and Pam spent much of their time in The Med where I understand they had a villa and where he was able to enjoy the generous pension he had obtained through UKIP.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

The Funeral was held in his home town where he had spent most of his life on Thursday 22-Dec-2011 with a large turnout to be seen.
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#0707* – Referendum on Leaving The EU to Go Ahead

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/12/2011

#0707* – Referendum on Leaving The EU to Go Ahead
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Referendum on Leaving The EU to Go Ahead!
The details prove int5eresting and the cause well worth supporting!

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Referendums on Leaving The EU to Go Ahead

I presume John Blackwell is financially behind the concept of holding Referendums independently.

This idea put forward by Nikki Sinclaire MEP West Midlands, who obtained the signatures needed to obtain a debate on A Referendum in The House of Commons that did so well.

Having raised the profile with her Petition for a debate on A Referendum the result was the largest vote against the Government, in fact in The HoC, ever on the issue of their betrayal of these United Kingdoms and self serving surrender of our Independence, Sovereignty and rule by a foreign and alien power EVER.

The plan always recognised the defence of the realm via legal means would be a long and hard battle – the next step is under way with the Government ‘e’Petition at:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/20911

The petition is not expected to do well without publicity but that will continue apace in the early spring, I understand. Funding will I gather be primarily by Nikki Sinclaire and it is hoped that Trevor Coleman MEP and Mike Nattrass MEP who have removed themselves from the vile extremist EFD Group in the EU with whom some of the less ethical UKIP MEPs are associated.

Let us hope Mike Nattrass & Trevor Coleman will act honourably and support the financing for the advertising vehicles, magazines and staffing around the UK for this petition to yet again reach the 100,000 goal by the end of the summer recess or before.

The magazine for the:
HAVE YOUR SAY CAMPAIGN
has gone out to 80 > 100,000 people in the last week or so – I gather Nikki Sinclaire has funded it, together with its postal distribution, and Trevor Coleman & Mikle Nattrass have promised to reimburse her – though I understand that Trevor Coleman is also seeking to repeat an earlier failure with the production of a DVD, which you may remember he did in the past with his chum Ashley Mote but DVDs are very much yesterday’s idea and have little impact!

The idea of holding A Referendum privately in various constituencies was always part of the plan but I gather John Blackwell has opted to take up the idea early and has John Gaunt fronting it for him.

I believe Sinclaire’s plan was more politically astute and professional but let us hope John Gaunt can pull it off and I’m sure Sinclaire’s petition will help them.

I expect the sock puppets and ner do wells of EUkip leadership claque will be out in force poo pooing the idea – never having had one of their own beyond self enrichment and self aggrandisement it would seem, to judge by their lack luster track record of corruption, abuse, whoring, theft, betrayal, drunkenness, squabbling, racism and fraud!

I gather John Gaunt has announced the aim that the initial privately funded Referendums will be in the constituencies of:
David Cameron
Nick
Clegg
& Milliband
I am sure that any help you can give will be welcome and any effort to raise the profile in these United Kingdoms is infinitely more valuable than all the posturing in the world in The EU pretend parliament with its sound bite stances and childish rants, which all amount to utter irrelevance, due to the total absence of meaningful democracy in The EU’s core structure.

In the mean time why not download a copy of THE PETITION form which can be found if you CLICK HERE

Regards,
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MORE on the background of The Petitions and the assorted Referendum Campaigns can be found at The Midnight Group

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#0692* – Might this be a large part of the Future for EUroRealists?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/11/2011

#0692* – Might this be a large part of the Future for EUroRealists?
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Might this be a large part of the Future for EUroRealists?!

With support and some dedication and through an open and balance Forum for discussion and suggestion it may just possibly provide the vehicle these United Kingdoms so clearly need!

Already it is clearly not just crano rectally retentive theorists nor self serving parasites seeking self enrichment – unlike the various political parties! 

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if you are truelly a EUroRealist or even merely a EUroSceptic you may find this interesting:

Nikki Sinclaire in Israel
Nikki Sinclaire travelled to Israel and Palestine earlier this month for a series of meetings with senior politicians and NGOs active in the field of human rights.

She was able to observe at first hand conditions in the besieged city of Gaza, before travalling to Ramallah to meet with Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad and other senior figures. She also met with Israeli parliamentarians in the Knesset.

Ms Sinclaire is becoming increasingly active in this area, she was one of the first western politicians invited to meet with the interim government of Tunisia following the overthrow of dictatorial President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali at the beginning of 2011

Interesting to note this was gleaned from a nascent site which looks as if it holds some promise for true EUroRealists.

It is good to see Tony Schofield looking as if he will be taking an active and VISIBLE role in the new venture bringing his knowledge, commitment and publishing experience to bear. Let us hope his thoughts and publications will become ‘usably’ available on the web site as he has written several excellent pamphlets and essays on EUroRealism and EUroScepticism over the years.

Then we have Gary Cartwright who is currently an EU employee of the non alligned group in Brussels where I understand he is currently assigned to Nikki Sinclaire as a researcher and assistant – his alternative values and diverse interests may well act as a foil to hone the main thrust of the new group.

Similarly Josh O’Nyons with his experience as an assistant to an MEP both in and out of the EU parliamentary milieu combined with his grass roorts experience across The UK campaigning for the the cross party petition which was devised, founded and led by Nikki Sinclaire with such success that she and her staff and supporters obtained 100,000 signatures and a debate in The House of Commons on an In/Out EU Referendum.

It was interesting to note that Trevor Colman and the ex deputy leader of UKIP Mike Nattrass lent their support latterly and even Nigel Farage praised the efforts of Nikki Sinclaire AFTER the event!

Let us hope this new group moves from strength to strength providing the much needed vision and strategies required as The EU continues to be exposed for the evil that it clearly is. They may even consider working on an exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms as we move inexorably towards leaving The EU rather than the puerile concept that all that is needed is the repeal of The EUropean Communities Act!

The new group may provide the intellectual rigor and enthusiasm for facts and details that have been conspicuous by their absence in self serving minor parties like UKIP and The BNP.

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Although a committed Eurosceptic, Gary Cartwright has extensive experience of working in the EU institutions.
He has a particular interest in east-west relations, and specifically the geopolitical implications of energy supply. As an accredited journalist and author, he has written extensively on this subject.
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Josh O’Nyons is a political campaigner, an ardent Conservative and committed eurosceptic. As a Political advisor to a Member of European Parliament he is well aware of EU meddling and interference in ordinary people’s lives. Having witnessed examples of small business wrapped up in red tape and constantly lobbied for help in blocking EU regulation, Josh has had firsthand experience of the detrimental impact EU membership has had on Britain.
He became and still is the National Campaign and Grassroots Coordinator for the Campaign for a Referendum in August 2010 responsible for coordinating the work of their activists across the country.
The group which cemented itself as the most successful Eurosceptic direct action group within the UK, successfully collected the 100,000 signatures to trigger the famous EU referendum debate in the House of Commons on the 24th October 2011. Where the UK government suffered their biggest rebellion since taking office, the Campaign continues to pressure the UK Government for an ”in or out” referemdum. Within his home town Josh is a member of the Solihull Ratepayers Association which locally campaigns for lower taxes, holds the council to account and criticises all examples of wasteful and unnecessary spending. Outside of politics Josh is involved in period property renovation.
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Nikki Sinclaire was born in London, and she is currently Member of the European Parliament for the West Midlands.

A graduate in law (University of Canterbury), she has gained extensive experience in politics in the UK, the USA, and in Europe. An advocate of universal human rights and a supporter of democratisation, in 2011 she was one of the first western politicians to be invited to meet with the transitional government of Tunisia, following the overthrow of the authoritarian regime of President Ben Ali. during the so-called Arab spring.

More recently she rocked the British government by presenting to 10 Downing Street a petition of over 100,000 signatures calling for a referendum on Britain’s continued membership of the EU. This triggered a debate in the House of Commons that resulted in a major rebellion within the government ranks.
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Trevor Colman was born in the Cornish village of St. Breward on the Bodmin Moor. He attended Sir James Smith’s Grammar School in Camelford and, later, when the family moved to Devon, the Tavistock Grammar School. He left school aged 15 and began working life as a kettle boy in a farm suppliers yard. He later became a court clerk working with the Clerk to the Justices department, attending a different magistrates court in Devon, every day of the week.

Aged 21 years he joined the Devon Constabulary (later the Devon and Cornwall Constabulary) serving for 33 years. During that time he walked the beat as well as driving a high-speed main road patrol car. However he served mainly in the CID, retiring in the rank of Superintendent. During that time he was seconded to Operation Countryman, the largest corruption enquiry into the Metropolitan Police and uncovered police wrongdoing resulting in a number of wrongly convicted persons being released from prison.

For seven years he worked as a script advisor on the television series ‘Wycliffe’.

He is a published author of both fiction and non-fiction. One of his fictional short stories was broadcast on BBC radio Four whilst another won an award and was published in a collection of short stories. His non-fiction book was on Police procedure and was published by McGraw Hill.

He joined UKIP in 1999 (having never been involved in politics before) and instantly became an activist. He has written, designed and produced four films/DVD/videos on the EU which have sold in their hundreds of thousands. He has written and designed speakers scripts and presentation packs for speakers which have been and still are used all over the UK.

He became an MEP in October, 2008 and was re-elected in June 2009.

He has designed and published his own website (The EU-nit) dedicated to producing up to date, non-party political details about Britain’s membership of the EU. On average he addresses three meetings in the South West every week.

He is married to Sue and currently lives on the South coast of Devon overlooking the English Channel.
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I wish the new grouping good luck and hope they are not attacked too early by those who have made a career out of EUroScepticism and see their incomes as threatened!
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#0679* – A STEP FORWARD TO LEAVING THE EU

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/10/2011

#0679* – A STEP FORWARD TO LEAVING THE EU

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Watch the self serving & corrupt MPs squirm & wriggle
to ensure their place on the Gravy Train!
In Betrayal of Democracy when they have shown they are all too willing to bomb, maim, kill and abuse other Countries and their peoples in a pretence of IMPOSING democracy. 

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CONGRATULATIONS
THANK YOU
&
GOOD LUCK
TO
Independent MEP
Nikki SINCLAIRE  
& Her Team & Supporters
Outside number 10 about to hand over the petition of OVER 100,000 Signatures
L-R Trevor Colman MEP, Mike Nattrass MEP, Kelvin Hopkins MP,
Nikki Sinclaire MEP, 
Rt. Hon Nigel Dodds MP, Kate Hoey MP, 
Maggie Inglis, Josh O’Nyons, and a Kate Hoey staff member

Let us hope that the MPs & MEPs have the democratic good sense to be in Downing Street in support of Nikki Sinclaire TODAY of all days as she and supporters deliver another 20,000 signatures+ to Downing Street and the debate follows at Westminster.

I submit we will be able to ascertain with one hundred percent accuracy which MPs & MEPs 1are there to represent the best interests of these United Kingdoms and its peoples and their own constituents and which were absent – more interested in representing their personal interests by not campaigning to ensure the peoples of Britain receive the fundamental human right of self determination.

There will of course be many self interested politicians only interested in themselves and trying to seek personal glory but today was the achievement of Nikki Sinclaire and Nikki Sinclaire alone with the team she put together and the example she has set other MEPs and MPs.

This is the first very momentous step in a very hard battle for freedom and our greatest enemies will be, as ever, Continental EUrope and our own Enemy Within – politicians, Snivil Cervants and petty fogging self important parasites and hangers on seeking self enrichment and self agrandisement by selling our the peoples of Britain to foreign and VERY ALIEN rule.

Good Luck and thank you to everyone who has supported Nikki Sinclaire on this momentous day – YES of cvourse we know this first step will be thwarted and the people betrayed in every way self serving and corrupt politicians and their parasites know how.

We will publish, as a permanent record, the list of SHAME & GLORY
showing how every MP voted as soon as feasible!

Monday, 24 October 2011

THE EU Commons Debate: Nikki Sinclaire Press Release

 

The Independent MEP Nikki  Sinclaire with supporting MP’s will be in Downing Street at 10.30am delivering the remainder of petition forms to the Prime Minister.

The Campaign vehicle largely responsible will be located fro 11am to 7pm at Old Palace Yard opposite the Houses of Parliament.

PRESS RELEASE


Sunday 23rd October 2011

‘GUARDIAN’ OF 100,000 PETITION THAT INSTIGATED THE DEBATE ON EU REFERENUM SLAMS MAIN POLITICAL PARTIES

The founder and coordinator of the 100,000 petition handed in to Downing street last month triggering off the process that has given the debate has criticized the main political parties for treating the petitioners and the electorate with contempt.


Independent MEP Nikki Sinclaire set up the cross party initiative ‘Campaign for a Referendum’ to give a say to the ordinary people sick and tired of the constant arguing on Brittan’s membership of the EU. The Campaign has been supported by many MPs from across the political spectrum.


Ms Sinclaire feels a strong responsibility for those who signed the petition saying “We submitted 100,000 voices to Downing Street and as the ‘Guardian’ of those people I feel the need to speak up for them”


The majority of the signatures were collected by Ms Sinclaire’s campaign bus that went town to town, city to city and canvassed huge support.

Ms Sinclaire says “The signatures were given in good faith by people who wanted to establish for once and for all the UK’s membership of the EU. We would have stuck by the verdict of the people, but the politicians don’t trust democracy any more. They won’t allow us to have our say. We’ve forced them to have the debate, but they have imposed whips. This shows complete contempt for the people who gave them their positions.”


Nikki is urging all MP’s of whatever political persuasion to defy the whips and vote for what the people who put them into power want.


Recent YouGov polls show an overwhelming majority of the electorate want a referendum with 52% would vote to leave and only 30% would vote to remain in the EU


Nikki, an independent MEP, added: “Clearly the people of Britain want to decide who governs Britain. It must be alarming to the government that despite all their assurances on sovereignty and cast iron promises, more and more people have given up on this European project. This argument has gone on far too long, we must decide our course once and for all in a binding referendum”


Ms Sinclaire will deliver the remainder of the petition forms to Downing Street tomorrow morning at 10.30 am with supporting MPs making the total submitted in excess of 120,000


Ends

Note to Editors.

The Campaign website is http://www.haveyoursay.eu

The Campaign vehicle that collected the signatures will be situated to Old palace yard opposite the Houses of Parliament from 11am to 7pm tomorrow Monday 24th October

NIKKI SINCLAIRE and supporters will be on College Green, Westminster on Monday, 24th October. NIKKI is available for interview on 23rd, 24th and 25th.

For further information Nikki Sinclaire MEP can be contacted at: 0794 146 1255 . .

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#0667* – Absolutely Brilliant 100% Nikki SINCLAIRE’s Achievement

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#0667* – Absolutely Brilliant 100% Nikki SINCLAIRE’s Achievement

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Absolutely Brilliant 100% Nikki SINCLAIRE’s Achievement!
Congratulations to Nikki Sinclaire and the team she pulled together

including her staff, Mike Nattrass MEP, Trevor Colman MEP, Kate Hoey MP, Austin Mitchel MP, Kelvin Hopkins MP, Roger Godsiff MP, David Nuttall MP, Philip Davies MP, Gordon Henderson MP, Philip Hollobone MP, Graham Stinger MP, Richard Shepherd MP, Dianna Dodds MEP and many others whose contributions were varied but all supported her!

Sadly she had to achieve this despite the efforts of UKIP Leadership to sabotage her efforts and defame her!

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so the discussions with The leaders of The House of Commons have paid off and unlike the Judas Goats with their endless posturing and pretend petitions and pretence at EUroScepticism and the 120 Tory MPs who have followed the whip’s requirements in setting up a EUroPlasticSceptic Group Nikki SINCLAIRE Independent MEP has actually delivered the required 100,000 signatures with another 20,000 ready to deliver as her campaign continues to grow.

Frankly Westminster debating the issue makes the point – we know that Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas any more than we can expect the MPs to represent either our wishes or our best interests and Leave-The-EU.

Frankly our MPs are so totally discreditted who gives a stuff how they vote – The EU may think it will be making the decisions but do not forget it was on October 01st. 1946 that the first GUILTY verdicts and the hanging of 11 Guilty Men was ordered at The Nuremberg Trials – Politicians don’t call the shots when it comes to war and we are teetering on the start of The Wars of Dissassociation be it the Riots in Greece, the Default of The Greek Government, the failing of the Portuguese, Italian, Irish, Greek, Spanish and shortly the Cypriot economies that will win this argument.

The wheels are falling off of the EU scam.

Let us see if our politicians want to hang onto their jobs and Leave-The-EU or hang on lamp posts as the lights go out!

Their vote in Westminster is no longer relevant they gave away their authority so their debate is pointless – as pointless as they are.

76% of Tory voters want a Referendum, 66% of Tory voters would vote to Leave-The-EU when given their vote and only 30% of the entire population would vote to stay in The EU.

A measure of the accuracy of The Media is that for all the huff and puff from The LibDims & Tories it was a single INDEPENDENT MEP Nikki Sinclaire with the support of not a single Tory or Liberal delivering to Drowning Street the 100,000 signatures so far as the photographs clearly show:
It was Nikki Sinclaire’s advertising vans all over Britain getting the signatures:
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At last: We get vote on Europe as MPs are forced to decide on referendum

  • Vote will be held in the Commons before Christmas
  • Eurozone crisis has led to surge in anti-Brussels feeling

Last updated at 11:19 PM on 1st October 2011

A historic vote on growing demands for Britain to leave the European Union will be held in the Commons before Christmas.

MPs will debate whether the Government should give voters a chance to decide the issue once and for all in a referendum.

It will be the first time Parliament has held a major vote on seeking the public’s view since the 1975 referendum confirming the decision to join the Common Market.
Enlarge   Diktat: Unelected EU bureaucrats have no right to insist on changes to Britain's immigration laws

A historic vote on growing demands for Britain to leave the European Union will be held in the Commons before Christmas

If MPs vote in favour of  a referendum, the result would not be binding on the Government. 

But, combined with growing public opposition to the increasing power of the EU, it would put enormous pressure on David Cameron to let the people decide the country’s European fate.
The Commons vote has been forced on MPs – and a reluctant Prime Minister –  by public demand, after the crisis in the eurozone, with desperate attempts to prop up the Greek economy, led to a surge in anti-Brussels feeling.
Prime Minister David Cameron. MPs will debate whether the Government should give voters a chance to decide the Europe issue in a referendum

Prime Minister David Cameron. MPs will debate whether the Government should give voters a chance to decide the Europe issue in a referendum
The decision to hold a debate was made after a petition signed by more than 100,000 people demanding a referendum was submitted to a new group of MPs given the job of making sure Parliament does not sweep controversial issues under the carpet.

The Mail on Sunday has learnt that the Commons Backbench Business Committee will agree to grant a one-day debate on a referendum after Parliament returns next week.

Committee chairman Natascha Engel, a Labour MP, said: ‘Given the crisis in the eurozone, this issue has become more relevant than ever. There is a clear majority of backbench MPs who want to debate this and we have to respond to that.

‘The EU today is completely different from the one the British people voted to join in the 1975  referendum.  It is time to examine the position again. For years it has suited successive governments to avoid debating whether Britain should stay in or leave the EU.

‘The whole purpose of my committee is to make sure the big issues of the day are aired in Parliament. People in pubs and shops all over Britain are discussing our membership of the EU and it is time MPs openly debated it too.’

The debate will be held before the end of the year.
Anti-European campaigners are divided over the question that should be put in a referendum. Some want a simple ‘in or out’ question. But others want to offer the choice of going back to an old- style trading association, along the lines of the Common Market which British voters agreed to in 1975.

If the nation voted ‘yes’ to this proposition, the Government could demand that key powers over immigration, industrial relations, health and safety, City regulations and other issues are handed back to Westminster. If the EU refused to do so, Britain could leave altogether.
Deputy Prime Minister and leader of the Liberal Democrats Nick Clegg is an avowed Europhile
Labour MP Natascha Engel siad given the crisis in the eurozone the issue has become more relevant than ever
Deputy Prime Minister and leader of the Liberal Democrats Nick Clegg is an avowed Europhile. Labour MP Natascha Engel said the eurozone the issue has become more relevant than ever
Recent opinion polls show that when asked directly, nearly one in two people want Britain to come out of the EU, with about one in three in favour of staying in. But when the question was rephrased to give the choice of returning to a Seventies-style trade association, a clear majority chose that option.

Tory MPs plan to use this week’s party conference in Manchester to step up their demand for a referendum.

Withdrawing from the EU has support at the highest level of the party, including from Mr Cameron’s senior No 10 adviser, Steve Hilton.

The Commons vote is a nightmare for the Coalition. Mr Cameron was heavily criticised in Opposition for going back on a pledge to hold a referendum on the 2007 Lisbon Treaty which continued the process of switching sovereignty to the EU.
Protests in Greece over cut backs. The crisis in the eurozone with desperate attempts to prop up the Greek economy has led to a surge in anti-Brussels feeling

Protests in Greece over cut backs. The crisis in the eurozone with desperate attempts to prop up the Greek economy has led to a surge in anti-Brussels feeling

He fears a referendum would be a distraction from his attempts to solve Britain’s economic problems.

But he will face a mass revolt if he orders Tory MPs to vote against it.

Although Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg is an avowed Europhile, he made an Election pledge to hold an ‘in or out’ EU referendum.

It was seen as a crude Lib Dem ploy to prove that whatever their reservations about the EU, most Britons want to stay in. But with hostility to the EU growing by the day, Mr Clegg may now be hoist with his own petard. A sizeable number of Labour MPs also want a referendum.

The historic Commons debate is set to be agreed after Tory MP David Nuttall approached the Backbench Business Committee on the strength of the petition.
The Bury MP said he would defy any attempt by Mr Cameron to silence him. ‘I will vote in favour of a referendum come what may. It is about whether we stay in the EU and it is time the people had their say.’

Fellow Eurosceptic Tory MP Peter Bone said: ‘This poses an almighty dilemma for Mr Cameron. He will face huge problems if he orders MPs to vote against it.’

Since Britain joined the Common Market, there have been a series of Commons votes on whether there should be referendums on EU treaties such as Maastricht and Lisbon – although none at all on whether we should remain in the EU. All have been defeated, largely down to Governments ordering MPs to vote them down.

The Government has suffered three  defeats as a result of debates ordered by the Backbench Business Committee. They were forced to pay compensation to victims of a contaminated blood scandal; to reject a European bid to give prisoners the vote; and to ban wild animals in circuses without delay.

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#0661* – UKIP LEADERSHIP HAVE BETRAYED THEIR ELECTORATE

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#0661* – UKIP LEADERSHIP HAVE BETRAYED THEIR ELECTORATE

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UKIP LEADERSHIP HAVE BETRAYED THEIR ELECTORATE!

With all their Navel Gazing, Back Biting & Squabbling they have become part of The EU Problem with no sign of being part of the solution!

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we note even now the scum that act as emisaries for UKIP hidden in cowardly fashion behind false identities do little but bring shame on UKIP and in The EU Parliament nothing more than derision with their silly antics and clear support for racism, extremism, xenophobia and anti Judaism.

Whilst The EFD is posturing and preening and seeking to improve and serve The EU.

Nikki Sinclaire MEP not only went out with UKIP’s knives endlessly being placed in her back by cowards, low life and filth that are the leadership and sycophants, staff and parasites of The Farage Party.

Not only did she whilst The Judas Goats and Plastic EUroSceptics squabbled for glory and FAILED – she just ploughed ahead with her small group of staff, cross party supporters and genuine EUroRealists who want no part of membership of The EU and she obtained whilst the others bragged and jockeyed for position Nikki Sinclaire & her team DELIVERED.

Nikki Sinclaire has Delivered the required 100,000 signature petition, fully verified and cross checked to Downing Street by arrangement thus ensuring it has been officially lodged with The House of Commons.

Not stopping there Nikki Sinclaire, at her own expense, having purchased 2 advertising vehicles to take her campaign Nationwide also commissioned a YouGov Poll – The results showed:
When offered a vote in a referendum
52% of all adults poled would vote to leave The EU.
Only
30% would vote to stay in The EU!!!

Of Tory Voters:
76% want an IN/OUT EU Referendum
&
66% would vote to Leave-The-EU

On the back of her efforts not only was there a write up about her 100,000 signatures delivered to Drowning Street in The Mail on Sunday but also details of the Referendum in The Mirror but there is also this article in today’s Daily Telegraph.

WELL DONE Nikki SINCLAIRE MEP
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Shame on the scum that are now the clearly failed UKIP rump – visionless, strategyless, tacticless, leaderless and with not a single solitary achievement beyond the enrichment of a small self selected Clique looking after their own interests.

Good to see Kate Hoey & cross party MPs
also Trevor Colman MEP & Mike Nattrass MEP as the trolley boy ;-).

Tory MPs demand referendum on Europe

David Cameron must call a referendum on Europe or face a rebellion from his own party and a backlash from voters, a leading back-bench Tory warns today.

David Cameron gives a press conference prior to a meeting of the European Council; Europe has fallen for the Tories, but a quarrel is in the offing; AFP

Mr Pritchard accuses Mr Cameron of failing to honour a ‘guarantee’ to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty Photo: AFP

Mark Pritchard, the secretary of the 1922 committee of Conservative MPs, is the most senior Tory yet to demand a vote on Britain’s membership of the European Union following the eurozone crisis.
Writing in The Daily Telegraph, Mr Pritchard says that the EU has become an “occupying force” which is eroding British sovereignty and that the “unquestioning support” of backbenchers is no longer guaranteed.
He says the Government should hold a referendum next year on whether Britain should have a “trade only” relationship with the EU, rather than the political union which has evolved “by stealth”.
He warns that the Conservatives will see constituents “kick back” if taxpayers are forced to foot the bill for the failure of “unreformed and lazy” eurozone countries to introduce fully-fledged austerity measures.
Mr Pritchard is a leading figure in a group of 120 Conservative MPs who are pushing the Prime Minister to set out a “clear plan” for pulling back from Europe.

George Eustice, a backbench MP and former close aide to Mr Cameron, is also demanding a “new relationship” with the EU.
William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, recently threw his weight behind the Eurosceptics by saying that Britain might prosper by loosening its ties with Europe.
Mr Pritchard’s intervention will further increase tensions within the Coalition.
Danny Alexander, the Liberal Democrat Treasury minister, yesterday attacked Eurosceptics as being “enemies of growth”.
In a clear warning to Mr Cameron, Mr Pritchard says Tory MPs have become tired of tolerating the “Europhile views” of Liberal Democrat ministers.
He writes: “Conservative backbenches can no longer be taken for granted.
”Conservative MPs will not continue to write blank cheques for workers in Lisbon while people in London and Leicester are joining the dole queue.
“For many Britons, the EU has already become a kind of occupying force, setting unfamiliar rules, demanding levies, curbing freedoms, subverting our culture, and imposing alien taxes.
”In less than four decades, and without a single shot being fired, Britain has become enslaved to Europe — servitude that intrudes and impinges on millions of British lives every day.
“Brussels has become a burdensome yoke, disfiguring Britain’s independence and diluting her sovereignty.”
Mr Pritchard accuses Mr Cameron of failing to honour a “guarantee” to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.
He says: “The Coalition should agree to a referendum on Europe asking whether Britain should be part of a political union or of the trade-only relationship we thought we had signed up to.
“This is a moderate proposition that would attract voters from across the political spectrum, unite many on the Left and Right within Parliament and galvanise the support of most in the media.” Mr Cameron recently ruled out a referendum on the EU asking whether Britain should opt in or out. Mr Pritchard believes his “stepping stone” approach will provide a compromise.
He says that if Britain votes for a trade-only relationship with the EU, there should then be a referendum about membership on the date of the next general election.
Mr Pritchard writes: “The British have grown weary of Europe. The Coalition government should end decades of political appeasement by successive governments and champion freedom and democracy for Britain – and agree a referendum.”
Mr Cameron and George Osborne, the Chancellor, know that the unfolding crisis in the eurozone will give the Conservative party’s Eurosceptic MPs a chance to argue more powerfully for a realignment of Britain’s position in the EU.
The 2010 intake of new Tory MPs is regarded as the most Eurosceptic in a generation and large numbers of government ministers remain privately anti-Brussels.
Some hope that Mr Osborne, the Conservative election strategist, will advance a series of policies that can address the concerns of his party before the next election and in the process tap into the worries of voters.
But Mr Osborne’s Liberal Democrat deputy at the Treasury, Mr Alexander, yesterday criticised those who want to take Britain away from the EU.
The Chief Secretary to the Treasury, told Liberal Democrat activists: “Sadly, Eurosceptics on left and right fail
to understand Winston Churchill’s
central insight that sharing sovereignty strengthens influence and isolation weakens us.
“Scottish Nationalists make the same mistake. We will never let the anti-Europeans or nationalists frustrate our national interest. They are enemies of growth.”
Backbencher Mr Eustice is spearheading the challenge to the Prime Minister over the EU.

Eurosceptic Tory backbenchers want the party leadership to act more decisively on Europe and return some powers to Westminster.

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#0656* – UKIP Conference & Its True Calliber!

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#0656* – UKIP Conference & Its True Calliber!

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Displayed in all its failed values & Grubby Greed!!

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do excuse me for having failed to post for a few days but knowing The EFD (Friday) & UKIP (Saturday) Party Conference were on and well aware it would just be a repeat of the sound bites of such events in UKIP I felt it to be an appropriate time to spend a few days away (which we never announce in advance 😉 
On return today I note from the many reports that the event almost totally lived down to prediction with the only real highlight being the number of people observed congratulating Nikki Sinclaire MEP, now an Independent who alone (with her team) and a little help from Mike Nattrass MEP & Trevor Colman MEP now that they have disassociated themselves from the vile extremism of The Pan EU Political EFD Group, she has achieved far more towards raising serious awareness and having delivered a petition of over 100,000 signatures at Drowning Street, in Petition towards an In/Out Referendum to Leave-The-EU has out performed the Plastic EUroSceptics and Judas Goats so prevalent in The Tories and amongst EUkip leadertship.
Itt is clear they have very little desire to Leave-The-EU as their income streams & bribes would cease and pension funds would collapse having been dishonestly gained.
It was almost amusing to watch the true supporters wishing to Leave-The-EU making every effort to curry favour with her and making every effort to welcome her and seek to convince her to return and those who felt their incomes and positions challenged doing all they could to avoid her – Farage included, even the stupid woman who in her ill mannered ignorance felt it incumbent on her to berate Sinclaire for her efforts – amusingly no one knew who the foolish woman was! Well she must have done a lot for UKIP and the cause of leaving the EU!
Nikki Sinclaire’s Petition as a concrete action to Leave-The-EU speaks so much more clearly than all of EUkip’s fluffy words and efforts to ReForm The EU, with their various extremist partners over the years.
Sadly there was absolutely nothing else of worth or merit to report from a very lack luster conference with around 400 in attendance and many of the same soundbites of recent previous years, the same calliber of low lifes and self serving scoundrels making the same noises to great adulation from a handfull of gullible followers mostly hoping for preferment or at very least crumbs from the table in some cases like Mick McGough and the like in return for their lies and willingness to show themselves for the unpleasant and dishonest people they most clearly are, like maggots and flies on a dung heap with their strutting poppinjay crowing from on top.

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Anti-immigration ally of Silvio Berlusconi says 

Breivik had ‘some excellent ideas’

By Nick Pisa

Last updated at 2:47 PM on 27th July 2011

A coalition ally of Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi has provoked outrage after he praised the rantings of Norwegian right-wing terrorist Anders Behring Breivik.
Mario Borghezio, an MEP with the anti-immigration Northern League party, who have campaigned against Muslims and the building of mosques, said Breivik had some ‘excellent’ ideas.
Speaking on an Italian radio show he said he agreed with the maniac’s ‘opposition to Islam and his explicit accusation that Europe has surrendered before putting up a fight against its Islamisation.’
Mario Borghezio
Norway's twin terror attacks suspect Anders Behring Breivik
‘Excellent’ ideas: Mario Borghezio, an Italian MEP for the anti-immigration Northern League party, left, said he agreed with terrorist mass-murderer Anders Breivik, right, on his views about Muslim immigrants and Islam in Europe

Though Borghezio added that he did not however agree with the use of extreme violence, or Breivik’s anti-Papal views, his comments immediately unleashed a storm of fury with his own party apologising to still grieving Norway.
Northern League chief Roberto Calderoli said: ‘His comments are terrible and completely unqualified and we can only apologise to the families of the victims for the delirium of what he said.’

The Northern League is a key ally of Berlusconi’s ruling right-wing coalition and, although the prime minister did not comment personally, members of his party also rounded on Mr Borghezio.
Carlo Giovanardi, an MP for the Christian Democratic Party, said: ‘Is it too much to ask for our Northern League friends to throw Borghezio out of their party?
‘We have vain hopes he will resign for what he said but that is unlikely to happen.’
Italy’s Foreign Minister Franco Frattini also stepped into the row over Borghezio’s comments and said: ‘He should offer Norway his personal apologies.
‘We as a government cannot intervene directly with an MEP – but we have made it very clear that the best course of action would be for him to make a personal apology.
‘His own party has disassociated themselves from him and that is a very important sign – he must feel the duty to say himself that he is sorry for what he said.
‘Any message of racism, xenophobia and exclusion or which leads to an incitement of violence or an emulation of violence must be condemned.’
Horror: This picture shows Breivik stalking Utoya island, surrounded by the bodies of his young victims, with one in the water pleading for his life

Horror: This picture shows Breivik stalking Utoya island, surrounded by the bodies of his young victims, with one in the water pleading for his life

Terror: Debris is seen on the street after the car bomb planted by Breivik detonated outside a government building in Oslo

Terror: Debris is seen on the street after the car bomb planted by Breivik detonated outside a government building in Oslo

Today internet forums were ablaze with furious comments against Borghezio with one popular post saying that he ‘needs to be locked up in a mental asylum and have the key thrown away.’
But there were some comments in his favour with some saying he was ‘speaking the truth’ and calling on the Northern League to ‘support him instead of attack him’.
A new headache: Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi is still reeling from national debt problems and a string of high profile scandals

A new headache: Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi is still reeling from national debt problems and a string of high profile scandals

Borghezio himself was unrepentant and added: ‘I said what I said because I have the impression this massacre has a purpose, I don’t think this lunatic meant his act to have this outcome.
‘What we should ask ourselves is how can someone who was supposed to have been on a watch list been allowed to go around and do what he did?
‘Christians should not be sacrificial animals – they should be defended.’
Borghezio has a long history of anti-immigration campaigning – in 2005 he was found guilty of arson, after setting fire to pallets of some migrants sleeping under a bridge in Turin during a vigilante raid.
The centre-left opposition called for Borghezio to resign from the European Parliament.
David Sassoli, an MEP with Italy’s Democratic Left opposition, said: ‘It is a matter of shame for all of us that a representative of the ruling coalition made apologetic remarks about one of the cruelest acts of terrorism.’
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UKIP supporters and those genuinely anti EU membership are clearly far from happy with the attrocious behaviour of Nigel Farage and his claque in his extremist EFD Group and when one then finds these self same scum of EU Politics turning up as guest speakers at UKIP events and are minded that The EFD members represent each other on EU Committees it is clear that with Farage and his leadership claque UKIP has no meaningful future acting on behalf of informed British people.
UKIP would seem to be determined to move itself from being a possible part of the solution to being a very clear part of the problem.
No one could reasonably say that Nigel Farage is other than a good performer and Liga one of the prostitutes with whom he was well publicised cavorting, as with Annabelle they have been both explicit and graphic in describing him as a good performer.
However I have never heard anyone with one wit of judgement, that could be respected, describe him as having any of the OQ (Officer Qualities) essential for a leader. He is an attrocious judge of character and it seems a worse strategic or tactical planner with no vision for the future much beyond his various scams, bank accounts and zip!
Yet again we have further provenance of his lack of integrity, self serving dishonesty and undeniable corruption – that is not for a moment to gain say he is UKIP’s greatest asset – sadly that is more a reflection on the low calliber of those he has gathered around him than of his abilities – a good sound bite man, a well rehearsed speaker and his scripts are well performed.
Sadly it is undeniable that he is both untrustworthy and untrusted as shown in the exchanges below from the UKIP controlled Forum managed by the weak, dishonest and venal Anthony Butcher in default of the political career he so aspired to!

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the Northern League and UKIP are the two largest parties in EFD, each with 9 MEPs in the group out of a group total of 27 MEPs. And the leader of the Northern League MEPs – and co-president of EFD – is Francesco Speroni, who is one of the two MEPs to have made these astonishing remarks supportive of Norway’s worst ever mass murderer. So when Farage quite rightly demands a retraction and apology for the remarks, or else UKIP will suspend its EFD membership, he may well be signalling the end of the EFD group.

Barboo

Such faith, Tom!

Compare your last sentence quoted above with what is actually happening. It took just 24 hours for the back-tracking to start!


Remember:


Speroni was directly quoted by the Guardian, saying:
 

“Breivik’s ideas are in defence of western civilisation”, and “I’m with Borghezio. I don’t think he should resign. If [Breivik’s] ideas are that we are going towards Eurabia and those sorts of things, that western Christian civilisation needs to be defended, yes, I’m in agreement”.

In a statement on 28 July, UKIP said Nigel Farage had contacted Speroni, his EFD co-president,

“to demand an immediate retraction and apology following his remarks and those of his fellow Northern League MEP Mario Borghezio . . . . If no retraction is forthcoming then UKIP will suspend its membership of the EFD group in which it sits alongside the Italian political party”.

On 29 July, UKIP’s follow up statement said Speroni had written to Farage saying that he condemns the massacre and the extreme fundamentalism in question – an addition to his earlier remarks.

Has Speroni withdrawn the statements he made in support of Borghezio?


No, he has not.


Has Speroni retracted his agreement with Breivik’s ideas?


No, he has not.


Has Speroni apologised?


No, he has not.


Has Nigel Farage suspended UKIP MEPs’ membership of the EFD as he said he would?


Apparently not. It seems Borghezio has been suspended by his party and UKIP says it is satisfied that this
 

“will send a clear message that they, and we will not have any truck with such disgraceful sentiments now or in the future”.

Farage is convening the EFD next week to suspend Borghezio from the group.

So that’s it. The book thrown at Borghezio; Speroni quietly forgotten. UKIP can trumpet that Farage has taken “prompt action”, and the EFD can survive with the temporary loss of one Italian.

Note that Farage’s demands for “an immediate retraction and apology” from Speroni are for home consumption only. The EFD‘s website doesn’t mention them, or the threat to suspend UKIP MEPs’ membership of the group.

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Maybe he wasn’t trying to satisfy Guardian readers in particular, but to satisfy anyone who thinks that the comments made by Mr Borghezio were vile, which is hopefully the vast majority of people all over the world.

Barboo  

An interesting aspect of this is that one of those who has condemned Borghezio’s comments, calling them “terrible, unspeakable remarks”, is the Lega Nord MP and cabinet minister Roberto Calderoli, the man indirectly responsible for UKIP MEPs and their allies expelling the Lega Nord from their previous Independence & Democracy group.

Calderoli was not even an MEP, yet in 2006 his party was expelled from the Ind/Dem following his provocative comments and TV appearance wearing a T-shirt bearing a copy of one of the Danish Muslim cartoons.

There has been no talk of expelling Speroni and Borghezio, whose comments have caused the current outrage; only of UKIP MEPs ‘suspending’ their EFD membership.

And it looks like Farage is welching on even that!

He gave Speroni an ultimatum – make an immediate full retraction and apologise, or we suspend our membership of the group.

Speroni has done neither. He’s stuck two metaphorical fingers up at UKIP’s leader and Farage has backed down, talking now of convening the EFD Bureau to suspend Borghezio instead.

He wouldn’t need to run to the Bureau for consent if he’d kept his word and suspended UKIP’s membership. He could have done that all by himself!

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Well that is not so good. What are they doing in the EFD? I didn’t think the Lisbon Treaty had anything to do with either freedom or democracy. In my view that would be far more offensive than something someone said in front of a load of emotional halfwits.

Why shouldn’t they be in it? You didn’t think the EFD was anti-EU did you?
Out of their own mouths, Baron . . . . .

Outcome of the referendum in Ireland (debate) 7 October 2009

Fiorello Provera (EFD )

The Lega Nord , the party I represent, voted for the Treaty in the Italian Parliament and I personally was the rapporteur.

(Note: Signor Provera is the EFD member Sharon Ellul Bonici was hoping to sign up for Godfrey Bloom’s new PEPP)

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Presentation of the work programme of the Swedish Presidency (debate) 15 July 2009
Francesco Enrico Speroni, on behalf of the EFD Group.

We must overcome the crisis of confidence that undoubtedly exists. The poor turnout at the elections of this Parliament is a symptom of this, and to overcome it, we must act fully in accordance with the will of our electorate. We must also perhaps avoid making comparisons: your country borders Norway; I live near Switzerland. They are outside the European Union, but they live well all the same; they have the same problems, but they are no worse off than us, and here it is important to see and to demonstrate that it is worth having the European Union.

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Multi-annual programme 2010-2014 regarding the area of freedom, security and justice (Stockholm Programme) (debate) 24 November 2009

Mario Borghezio, on behalf of the EFD Group

We need to create a single European legal system if we want to combat, at European level, crime that has become international and moves easily between banks, tax havens, financial markets and movable and fixed assets markets.

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Farage is a bleedin idiot.
First to come across as Mr Big . . . . and now with bluff called Farage looks like the priick many suspect he has always been.

Barboo 

Quite.

At the end of July, following the mass murder of young Norwegians by Anders Behring Breivik, UKIP issued two statements regarding comments made by their MEPs’ EFD colleagues Mario Borghezio and Francesco Speroni.

On 28 July, UKIP wrote: “Nigel Farage said: 

“Nigel Farage said: “I have written to the leadership of the Northern League party to demand an immediate full retraction and apology. If my request is not met, then we will suspend our membership of the EFD group”.

A clear and unequivocal undertaking.

On 29 July, following Speroni’s reply, UKIP wrote:
 

“Mr Farage is convening the governing Bureau of the EFD Group in the European Parliament next week in order to suspend Mr Borghezio from his membership of the group”.

Another clear and unequivocal undertaking, yet if Borghezio had retracted and apologised as Farage demanded, why was he to be suspended? And if he had not retracted and apologised, Farage (having suspended UKIP MEPs from the group as stated on July 28), would not then be in a position to convene the Bureau and suspend Borghezio.

So where is the retraction and apology, and on what date and with what outcome was the Bureau convened?


Because despite UKIP’s statements and Nigel Farage’s assurance, UKIP MEPs are still sitting and voting in the European parliament with their EFD colleagues Speroni and Borghezio. 

See Roll-call votes, Busuttil Report, 13.9.2011 http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/…EN&language=EN

quote:

(Against) EFD: (The Earl of) Dartmouth, Agnew, Andreasen, Batten, Bizzotto, Borghezio, Bufton, Clark, Farage, Fontana, Provera, Rossi, Salvini, Scotta, Speroni, de Villiers
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Huffing and puffing empty promises to shut critics up at home; treated with contempt by MEPs he ‘presides’ over in Brussels; and all the time, out of sight of UKIP members, European parliament business as usual.

How utterly despicable!

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#0653* – I Hear Sinclaire will be at Downing St & Farage on Question Time.

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I’ll post the details of the story later as I expect a call from a chum on one of the picture desks and also from within the BBC.

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I see Nikki Sinclaire has just put this on her blog:

Taking the petition to Downing Street tomorrow

PRESS RELEASE
Wednesday September 7, 2011
 
 
FIGHT FOR A REFERENDUM ON EUROPE GOES TO NUMBER10 AS 100,000 DEMAND A SAY
The Prime Minister will come under mounting pressure to hold a referendum on Britain’s EU membership tomorrow (Thurs) when his own MPs march on Downing Street.

Tories will join a seven-strong delegation who will hand a 100,000-name petition demanding a straight “in or out” vote at the door of Number10.
David Cameron has ruled out an early vote on the issue, but the huge public demand for one will give fresh impetus to 80 Eurosceptic back-benchers who want action.
The mountain of signatures has been collected in a cross-party campaign led by West Midlands MEP Nikki Sinclaire.
It raises the prospect of a Commons debate on Britain’s relationship with Europe.
Mr Cameron has promised to give Parliamentary time to any issue which gets the support of at least 100,000 people on any e-petition set up on the official government website.
But Commons leader Sir George Young has written to Ms Sinclaire telling her that her traditional pen-and-ink petition will carry the same weight if it also has the support of an MP.
Her petition has so far been backed by dozens of MPs – many of them Conservative.
David Nuttall, Tory MP for Bury North, will raise the matter with Sir George at business questions tomorrow.
The campaign’s new head of steam comes as a new group of more than 80 Tory MPs
Plan to meet next week to press Mr Cameron into withdrawing Britain from the debris of the eurozone crisis.
Ms Sinclaire will be flanked by four MPs and two MEPs from all parties when she hands in the sacks full of signatures at 11.45am on Thursday, September 8, 2011.
They include: Kelvin Hopkins MP , Trevor Colman MEP , Austin Mitchell MP, Nigel Dodds MP , Mike Nattrass MEP and Kate Hoey MP
Nikki will say: “This is an encouraging development and raises the prospect of an early debate on our continued membership of the EU – Almost eight in ten people want a national debate on the pros and cons of EU membership” 

“To insist that only an online petition will count would disenfranchise millions of people, particularly the poor and elderly, who do not have an email account or access to a computer.”

The breakthrough is bolstered by a YouGov poll which reveals a clear majority want ordinary people to have the final say on whether we pull out of Europe.
 
It shows for the first time a majority of people would actually vote to leave the European Union in an referendum.

The poll results will make uncomfortable reading for Mr Cameron with mounting dissatisfaction over Europe on his own benches.



While he insists the names must be collected on individually entered electronic petitions, the Commons Leader’s office has indicated that a traditional pen-and-ink petition could be lodged with the backbench business committee if it has one or more MPs sponsoring it.


Ms Sinclaire added: “The huge response to our campaign, together with the findings of our poll, show that most people want their say.”


The poll shows overwhelming support for letting the public decide our future in the EU – and if they got their way they would vote to pull out. 


Some 60 per cent of voters want a referendum on whether Britain should remain a member of the EU, according to the YouGov survey commissioned by Nikki’s campaign.


If there was a vote, a massive 52 per cent would vote to leave, with only 30 per cent preferring to stay in and 15 per cent undecided and 4 per cent not bothering to vote. 


Nikki, an independent MEP, added: “Clearly the people of Britain want to decide who governs Britain. It must be alarming to the government that despite all their assurances on sovereignty and cast iron promises, more and more people have given up on this European project.  This argument has gone on far too long, we must decide our course once and for all in a binding referendum”


MPs are already facing demands to debate bring back hanging after 100,000 backed the move in an e-petition.


But Nikki points out that Britain is powerless to restore the death penalty while still in the EU because it would breach the UK’s membership conditions by breaching the EU’s Fundemental Charter on human rights.


She believes we get the worst of both worlds while inside the EU but outside the eurozone.


“We have one foot in and one foot outside it,” she said. “This is detrimental to our interests and to those of the EU, both politically and economically. We need to take a decision as to where our future lies.


“Despite numerous promises, nobody under the age of 54 has ever had a say on Britain’s relationship with the EU. This issue needs to be resolved.”


EU membership costs Britain £48 million a day – or £4,912 per household over the last 11 years.


But we have signed away power to decide our own future, with 75 per cent of British regulation coming from EU law.

Nikki also pays tribute to the hundreds of people across the country who have helped collate the petition including one gentleman in Dorset who has collected 2,000 signatures. Nikki said “I’m overwhelmed by the level of support and the dedication of these people who truly are an inspiration.”


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Note to Editors.

The Campaign has collected in excess of 70,000 signatures on paper and in excess of 30,000 online at www.haveyoursay.eu 

The paper petition forms will be handed in at 10 Downing Street at 11.45pm on Thursday September 8, 2011.

According to the Office of National Statstics report in 2010 9.2 million people have never accessed the internet. 



For further information please contact Josh O’Nyons or

Nikki Sinclaire MEP can be contacted at: 0794 146 1255


Supporting Mp’s and MEPs include
Kate Hoey MP Labour
Richard Shepherd MP Conservative
Austin Mithchell MP Labour
Christopher Chope MP Conservative
Philip Davies MP Conservative
Kelvin Hopkins MP Labour
Rt. Hon. Nigel Dodds MP Dem’ Unionist
Mike Nattrass MEP UKIP
Rodger Godsiff MP Labour
Phillip Hollobone MP Conservative
Trevor Colman MEP UKIP
Graham Stringer MP Labour 
 

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#0652* – Nikki SINCLAIRE MEP Steals A March on The Judas Goats!

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this discussion from one of the many Forums where I post material opposed to membership of The EU may interest you:

    I agree.

    However, even if people haven’t got computers we can’t hold progress up.

    Computers are part of our lives and they won’t go away.

    We must adapt to modern society or we will be left behind.

    All kids at school are computer literate, with the rest of the population following fast.

    Over 50s are one of the fastest groups that are jumping on the computer bandwagon.

    We must embrace things like ePetition/ modern technology.

Hi,

woopy – subsequent to my last posting I have been sent a copy of a letter I have been awaiting for some days – AGAIN we have The Independent MEP Nikki Sinclaire to thank for this:

This means that her petition of over 100,000 signatures as announced and surprisingly widely published, in view of the fact her schedule was committed to announcement from Smith Square slap bang the day after the civil unrest when all the looters in suits were mumbling and squeeeeeling at the thought of competition from the proles.

This letter solves all problems as it can thus be an ‘e’petition on the .gov site AND a paper addition.

With Parliament resitting watch out for the presentation of the petition shortly and on a totally cross party basis.

I believe we all owe Nikki Sinclaire for her efforts – have you signed her petition? It can be signed on line OR on paper as the letter above shows – in fact her office is transposing all ePetition data onto paper and I gather an outside agency is erradicating duplicates and collating the data under strict data protection terms.

This letter now to hand I hear that Thursday will be likely to be the next ratchet turn 😉

Obviously the YouGov Poll was hugely significant and now the aim is to go on to yet more signatures to ensure no one tries to duck out on the Government benches when a Referendum becomes inevitable now, especially as well over 70% of Tory voters want a referendum on In/Out with regard to the EU, and embarrassingly the Judas Goats approved by the Tories as Plastic EUrosceptics with their other ‘PLEDGE’ Polls have rather lost control with, I gather, less than 50,000 signatures and I am given to understand some 30,000 of those are merely recycled and laundered Democracy Movement signatures though this is I concede hear say from the previous referendum that was given them!

Interestingly I gather on various technicalities The Express signatures are invalid as the poll was not carried out properly, or so I hear. However I doubt Mr. Despond will be giving praise to Nikki as we all know she is not a pornographers lap dog and seeks only relevant and serious publicity – hence her achievements.

She can in all fairness now say she has actually achieved, laterly with Mike Nattrass & Trevor Colman once they left Farage’s control and thus The EFD, they have achieved more in real terms than UKIP has done in all its 18 years of self enrichment and posturing for its leadership!

At least every single signature on Sinclaire’s Petition is genuine and her ad vans etc. have paid off – even if she is hoping for donations to help her fund them!!!

See her site CLICK HERE and sign up to the future 😉

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