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#119* – The Betrayal Of The Branches & Democracy (02)

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/11/2008

#119* – The Betrayal Of The Branches & Democracy (02)

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip LEADERSHIP’S BETRAYAL OF BRANCHES, MEMBERS & DEMOCRACY!

Hi,

shortly after I had written #118* – The Betrayal Of The Branches & Democracy (02) I received the follow up correspondence from an associate who had received it from an NEC member – in view of the current sordid Kafkaesque show trials following Nigel Farage’s orchestrated ‘Reichstag Fire’ moment of the last NEC meeting may I assure one and all that neither Dr. David Abbott nor Dr. Eric Edmond have EVER leaked confidential NEC material to me.

For those who will screech like banshees as they chase around their little play pens like the packs of, out of control, bullying children in William Golding’s ‘Lord of the Flies’ – Consider ‘Time Lines’ and when they joined the NEC or for that matter the party – relative to my inside information from the NEC from well before Michael Holmes was ousted in a similar witch hunt.

Well back to the ‘Plot’!

It would seem that acting with scrupulous honesty and having not received even the courtesy of a reply from the NEC Martin Harvey called a further meeting for the 8th. November – invitations were duelly circulated with adequate time allowed and this time 20 individuals arrived for a further meeting.

It will be noted that the oleagenous Gollom had in fact sent to the meeting, just as were sent Hitler youth & Brown Shirts to disrupt meetings, this time it was the faintly ridiculous Ian Jonathan Smith (telephone number: 01842 – 861 980 chek with him if you like) supported by Herbie Hitt like Mutt & Jeff they set about their task but increasingly they showed they were ill prepared and hadn’t much of a clue what they were talkinmg about – the final straw was when Smith made a total pratt of himself by displaying his fantasist theories of how MI5 work – one born every minute!

It was shortly after this that they slunk off unable to answer simple questions.

Interestingly, although most of those present at the first meeting attended, the appologies received were all genuine save one and exceeded the number received at the first meeting. The one was from one odd ball who lacked the courage to admit he had been bullied but chose to claim he had been reading his tea leaves or checking the entrails or some mumbo jumbo as an excuse! PRATT!

Yet again the meeting was well organised and chaired, unlike NEC meetings and after Smith & Hitt grovelled off the meeting continued amicably – though disapointment was registered that the leadership & NEC were too self interested and ill mannered to even acknowledge receip to the earlier declaration and allthough there was a prety strong support for withdrawing support and actively campaigning against UKIP in the interests of British patriotism and values – moderacy prevailed!

Martin Harvey competently steered the meeting to a further approach to the NEC & Leadership though therein IS an implied ultimatum!

It is fortunate that we have friends in the NEC and leadership ‘team’ and even those who are a part of it. This helps greatly towards keeping members informed of the duplicitous and self serving behaviour of what can only be described as the scum that has seized control.

Just read their eMails and even if you wish to believe their lies and attrocious behaviour – perhaps YOU can justify the collapse in membership, activists, branches and votes not to mention the lack opf funds or funders, the near silence of 2 embarrassed Peers and the burgeoning number of Court cases and investigations by Police, OLAF, Data Protection & others.

—– Original Message —–
From: MartinHarveyONR@aol.com
To:
nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu ; Massa Nigel
ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk ; Puppet Chairman Paul NuttAll
shawforddavid@hotmail.com ; Dr. David Abbott
alanbown@btinternet.com ; Alan Bown
del1young@yahoo.co.uk ; Delboy Young
Jill_seymour@btopenworld.com ; Jill Seymour
eric.edmond@tiscali.co.uk ; Dr. Eric Edmond
dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk ; David Bannerman or his ‘claimed’ Daddy’s Desk!
rjoxley@lineone.net ; Rachel Oxley – legal adviser to the NEC & Leadership
mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk ; Ma Zucherman of Bent & Manure – idiot!
douglas.denny@btopenworld.com ; Douglas Denny, serial liar and proven corrupt
cgill36@hotmail.co.uk ; Christopher Gill who has brought shame on his name & reputation & should know better
lisa.duffy2@tesco.jet Lisa Duffy who has no place on the NEC having clearly cheated to get there – without morality or integrity.

Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:58 PM

Subject: Newmarket Declaration.

Further to my e-mail sent to you at the end of September that included the Newmarket Declaration, a second meeting was held last Saturday, the 8th November, as had been suggested by those that attended the September meeting.
After considerable discussion, it was agreed to send to you all, the following request;

Newmarket 8th November 2008

Having submitted the ‘Newmarket Declaration’ to the Leadership with no satisfactory response, we formally request that before the 29th November 2008, we have a meeting with the UKIP Leader and other members of the Leadership, whereby the situation could be resolved properly and amicably.
We resent the implication that we are disloyal to the basic principles of our Party.

————————————————————————————

The above sent by e-mail 10-11-08 on behalf of the supporters of the Newmarket Declaration.
Martin Harvey.

Already lies, distortions and abuse are being put in place to destroy the honest men and women who signed this declaration.

Filth like Bannerman will scrape the bottom of the barrel aided by the chavs that are acting as bully boys and enforcers – it is all so similar to Germany in the inter war years but due to arrogance, hubris and ineptitude this shower in EUkip’s leadership played their hand badly and orchestrated their ‘Reichstag Fire’ moment when they had too weak a hand and insufficient competent crooks trained and are now reliant on idiots to carry it through motivated only by their own greed.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

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#114* – Gollom’s lost his Pressssiousssss!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/11/2008

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

BEFORE WE START TODAY:
I wonder if those of you on the NEC and amongst the leadership, or at least with access to EUkip computers and mailing lists would perform your usual stunt and leak like Billy Oh to your apparatchiks – those who regularly mail me ‘stuff’ don’t worry as, if you circulate the URL that follows, people will believe that you are on side and not one of my sources – so play safe 😉

Here is the URL to mail out, to bring people up to speed with what is going on – as time passes not only will it be kept upto date but also the backlog will be posted – almost 200 blogs so do forgive me if it takes a little time.

http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com/
ADD IT TO FAVOURITES
LINK FROM YOUR BLOG

#114* – Gollom’s lost his Pressssiousssss!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip LEADERSHIP’S CORRUPTION & THEIR COLLAPSE!

Hi,

Sorry todays news update is a little unimaginative but it does rather reflect those who were posting the material to each other in outright betrayal of the membership and clearly out of venal self interest.

Little Gollom excels himself as he slithers around duplicitous as ever – an unpleasant and cowardly creep always ready to do something in his own interest.

He has proved in the past to have the honour and integrity of a snake and the personality of a stoat. Both untrustworthy and vicious in his self interest – willing to mislead and back stab along with the rest of that which has floated to the top of the septic tank of EUkip politics.

I do particularly enjoy the grovelling of Youles, ever available to promote himself by a little underhand brown nosing!

By the way – thanks to my source who, as I understand, it mailed it to me through a blind hotmail account having received it, I presume on a lap top in the EU, earlier last night.

Anyway – make of this what you will and I will interject but a little 😉

—– Original Message —–
From: “John Youles” <jbyoules@ntlworld.com>

To: “Paul Nuttall, UKIP Chaiman” <chairman@ukip.org>
Cc: “George Curtis, UKIP Eastern Counties Chairman” <
gscurtis@aspects.net>; “John Savory,
UKIP Eastern Counties Norfolk Member”
gillian.savory@onetel.com>;
“Peter Reeve, UKIP Eastern Counties Organiser” <
reeve@ukip.org>; “Office of Jeffrey Titford
MEP”
ukipeastadmin@intamail.com>;
“Glenn Tingle (chairman UKIP Norwich)” <
tingo@btinternet.com>; “Stuart Agnew
(UKIP Norwich cttee)”
stuart.agnew@btconnect.com>;
“Steve Emmens (UKIP Norwich cttee)” <
steve.memmens@ntlworld.com>;
“John Woodhead (treasurer UKIP Norwich”
reedhamjohn@btconnect.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: Clarification

You will not be surprised to know that I receive unsolicited emails from
thespammer Greg Lance-Watkins.
One recently referred to a meeting at Newmarket at the end of September and
a”unanimous declaration” of representatives of a number of constituencies.
Theimpression given was that these people were representative of the
EasternCounties as a whole.This is not so. Neither I nor my branch
chairman were aware of this meetingbefore it took place.
Therefore the declaration does not represent Norwichbranch at all (three
constituencies).Furthermore, I contacted some other committee members of various
Norfolkbranches, none of whom had been aware of it either.I have also read of
criticisms of the Eastern Counties Committee, and of theRegional Organiser,
which I find quite bizarre.
Peter Reeve has always beenmost helpful to this branch, in particular he
has organised meetings for branchcommittee members in the county are proving
invaluable.
Regarding the MEP selection process, I was very impressed by the quality of
thecandidates at the hustings, all of whom were far far better, IMHO, than the
twowannabes who have been complaining.
Regards
John Youles
Secretary, UK Independence Party Norwich Branch
Tel: 01603 407152 Mob: 07941 343824 Fax: 08444 171626
— No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG.Version:
7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1755 – Release Date: 29/10/08 17:27

This reads rather more as if it was written by a virus!

eColi by the duplicitous and underhand brown nosing!

Let us look at it in some detail:

You will not be surprised to know that I receive unsolicited emails from thespammer Greg Lance-Watkins.

Well at least SOMEONE is keeping him informed!
Isn’t it funny how one is classified as a spammer if you are publishing facts and the truth that some wish to keep hidden – whereas their liars, cheats and corruption is portrayed as ‘Lobbying’ – they do let themselves and those they represent down by being so childishly transparent and predictable.Ever name calling like children in a playground!

One recently referred to a meeting at Newmarket at the end of September and a”unanimous declaration” of representatives of a number of constituencies. Theimpression given was that these people were representative of the EasternCounties as a whole.

Do not lie John, it ill becomes you – NOWHERE did I state it represented the entirety of the Eastern Counties I clearly stated that the invitation would seem to have been widespread and that of the 21 Constituency branches ALL 21 signed the declaration.

John your commentary though predictable is dishonest.

You will note from the oleagenous Gollom’s response that he has identified 4 more active branches but they did not attend. Would this standard of dishonesty be how you would expect EUkip to Govern if it was ever elected to any office?

This is not so. Neither I nor my branch chairman were aware of this meetingbefore it took place. Therefore the declaration does not represent Norwichbranch at all (three constituencies).

How grossly inefficient of you – I knew before the meeting and not from someone who organised it or was attending – no wonder with your display of awareness EUkip merely garnered 117 votes in the recent By Election, a massive EUkip style 0.03%

One of the big problems with EUkip, as I have always said, is in 15 years they have failed to put in place an organisational structure – lines of communications and trained competence – don’t bitch about the messenger when you have so clearly proved my point.

Furthermore, I contacted some other committee members of various Norfolkbranches, none of whom had been aware of it either.

How clearly you prove me right – is it any wonder that the corrupt leadership and NEC become arrogant and believe they can treat the members like dirt as they cheat and lie to keep their snouts in the EU troughs and aid their cronies.

With a structure as crass and amateur as you admit to here are you really surprised at the extent to which they cheat and lie?

I have also read of criticisms of the Eastern Counties Committee, and of theRegional Organiser, which I find quite bizarre.

What planet is this little lad on? Rather than trying to belittle the messenger can I suggest you try to keep in touch with what is going on – I try my best but perhaps my new blog will help you keep up with the facts .
The URL is:
http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com

Peter Reeve has always been most helpful to this branch, in particular he has organised meetings for branchcommittee members in the county are proving invaluable.

One has to wonder what he wants from you in view of the damaging interference he has orchestrated in other branches and the fact that his mistress was dishonestly ‘placed’ on the NEC – not to mention the various branches that have voted, in accord with the constitution, and have deselected him – together with liars and cowards like George Curtis and the unprofessional and dishonest Andrew Smith who has put the party at risk of losing upto A MILLION POUNDS with his irresponsible behaviour in cahoots with the insecure idiot Nigel Farage.

IF Reeve was any damned good he would have ensured you knew about the Newmarket meeting where 21 branches were represented, however he was obviously too busy plotting to orchestrate dishonest and unconstitutional witch hunts and kangaroo courts – not to mention a major local rally at which the discredited and dishonest deputy leader spoke in a hired hall, after advertising widely, to less than 12 people.

I wonder if NuttAll could have got 21 branches represented at Newark – he failed at Capel St. Mary.

Regarding the MEP selection process, I was very impressed by the quality of thecandidates at the hustings, all of whom were far far better, IMHO, than the twowannabes who have been complaining.

Who might these so called ‘wanabes’ be?

The liar, fraud, cheat and all round failure David the desk Bannerman?
or
The braggart and bully Stuart Agnew who boasts he has paid enough to buy the position and brings no diplomatic or political skill to the arena, merely self importance and greed!

Might it be the dishonest slippery Gollom, currently we understand under investigation by both the Essex Police
(who are I understand awaiting response from OLAF on Titford & Gulleford for substantive allegations of fraud, money laundering and embezzling, which one must hope they will be cleared of as they will then possibly be facing investigation and charges for ‘abuse of computer data’ having hacked into the private mail of the past Chairman Petrina Holdsworth and the past General Secretary Geoffrey Kingscott and possibly others).

Where were you when the Returning Officer’s report of the corruption under your nose was made public – ‘Turning A Blind Eye’ or doing an impersonation of all three of the wise monkeys!

John – don’t be a twerp, you really can’t be that stupid!You damage your credibility by trying to defend the indefensible AFTER the events have been made public!

—– Forwarded Message —-

From: Stuart Gulleford ukipeast@intamail.com
To: Paul Nuttall ; John Youles jbyoules@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: George Curtis ; gillian.savory@onetel.com;
ukipeastadmin@intamail.com; tingo ;
steve.memmens@ntlworld.com; John Woodhead ;
shawforddavid@hotmail.com; alanbown@btinternet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk;
davidfabbott@btinternet.com; dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk; del1young@yahoo.co.uk;
derekrclark@hotmail.co.uk; douglas.denny@btopenworld.com;
greg@glanceback.demon.co.uk; ukipse@ukip.org; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com;
lisa.duffy2@tesco.net; martaandreasen@auna.com; mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk;
nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk; rjoxley@lineone.net;
susan@keymerhaslam.co.ukSent:
Thursday, 30 October, 2008 10:30:55
Subject: Re: ClarificationThanks for this

John.
I would add that I am a branch chairman – Brentwood & Ongar and I
wasn’t invited either. That gets us up to four constituencies not
included. Any advance?

The Newmarket meeting was a complete con in that the
invitation implied it was for campaign planning and people went along expecting
exactly that, not another platform for the fifth column we seem to have in our
midst. who are prepared to do anything they possibly can to disrupt the Eastern
Counties, at a time when we most need to pull together to be ready for the
European Election and the General Election that will follow soon
afterwards.

The ringleaders were very careful to ensure that no one who
was likely to publicly disagree with them was invited. One wonders who is
really behind them as their efforts benefit nobody but the other political
parties, who oppose us in our fight for an independent Britain.

I gather that another fifth column meeting is to held in Newmarket on 8th November. I hope that people will have wised up and the attendance will reflect the true nature of the level of support for this nonsense.

It would also be beneficial if we managed to get some members there who are prepared to oppose these troublemakers.

Best wishes
Stuart Gulleford

ChairmanBrentwood & Ongar
Constituency Association>

So let us consider what the oiliferous and untrustworthy Gollom has actually had to say:

Thanks for this John.

It is always so nice to have someone who will boot lick isn’t it!

I would add that I am a branch chairman – Brentwood & Ongar and I wasn’t invited either. That gets us up to four constituencies not included. Any advance?

Have you actually got more than 21+ 4 branches left after the damage done to EUkip by yourself and the leadership – Tom Wise (STILL not only a member but a branch chairman until a couple of weeks ago!

The membership has collapse and you would be astonished how many of the people I phone who have dropped out of UKIP in disgust – Active members avidly read my newsletters and I get 100s of incoming eMails a day to my computer but I do get a few ill mannered abusive comments from people too stupid to be able to read – that get deleted automatically.

The Newmarket meeting was a complete con in that the invitation implied it was for campaign planning and people went along expecting exactly that, not another platform for the fifth column we seem to have in our midst.

It is clear you are not very bright but I didn’t realise you were so stupid as to show yourself for a fool in one sentence!

CONSIDER:
You State (The Newmarket meeting was a complete con) so therefore everyone was, according to you ‘duped’ into attending – but interestingly of the activists who attended, conned on the belief they were there to discuss tactics etc. at what was a widely advertised meeting – 21 out of 21 Constituencies signed the Newmarket Declaration.

Rather than hang around damaging UKIP – why don’t you go and get a real job, there is surely a limit to how long the EUroSceptic movement can be expected to support such a destructive, self interested parasite. Or is it that you are unemployable outside your greasy pit!

who are prepared to do anything they possibly can to disrupt the Eastern Counties, at a time when we most need to pull together to be ready for the European Election and the General Election that will follow soon afterwards.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE to try to clean up the Eastern Region?
What example have you set in your salaried position cheating in the selection process, spreading dissent and fermenting trouble.

Even your own Returning Officer said your conduct in the Eastern Region was unacceptable and the process should be re-run.

What have you done to get rid of the liar, fraud and cheat Bannerman etc. etc. – NO NOTHING for as long as it suited YOU.

You are contemptible!

The ringleaders were very careful to ensure that no one who was likely to publicly disagree with them was invited.

Were that true honest men and women of integrity would applaud them for their wisdom – Just look how corrupt YOUR Region has become:

One MEP under arrest and on Bail for a series of crimes as reported in the media and clearly known to many.

YOU creeping around with vile little letters, plotting and scamming.

An entire selection process corrupt and corrupted and a lead candidate CHOSEN not elected who is a disgrace to the party.

No wonder less than 12 people turned up to HIS Rally!

One wonders who is really behind them as their efforts benefit nobody but the other political parties, who oppose us in our fight for an independent Britain.

YOU DISHONEST GRUBBY LITTLE MAN – after the damage you have done and the collusion in the destruction of EUkip you have the nerve to TRY to accuse decent men and women of undermining filth like YOU.

The remaining Patriots in what was UKIP are trying desperately hard to rid it of the salaried, showboating, self seeking creeps who have made it a party no individual of integrity would consider supporting.

Am I being too honest for YOU?

CONSIDER:

UKIP had 29,500 members in 2004

it now has about 6,000 active members.

Head Office even quietly admits that the membership is falling daily, but pretend it is around 14,000 – implausible twaddle.

0.03% voted EUkip in the last by election – for every EUkip vote Labour at the bottom of their popularity got 170 votes.

EUkip has £45,000 in its piggy bank whilst facing forfeitures & Costs of up to £1,000,000 on ONE case alone.

EUkip hasn’t a single backer of substance left.

The one backer is a retired bookie who has been DUPED & LIED TO thus conning him into thinking he must pay the costs incurred by Farage & Smith!

NEED I GO ON?

I gather that another fifth column meeting is to held in Newmarket on 8th November.

Not the most intelligent language for you to use when talking of a number of your long term Branch Chairmen and UKIP loyalists seeking desperately to clean up the filth that EUkip has become to make it electable.

I hope that people will have wised up and the attendance will reflect the true nature of the level of support for this nonsense.

Yes there were only 20 present this time but with more appologies – almost twice as many as attended that liar, failure & Fraud Bannerman’s RALLY, which was so widely advertised!

It would also be beneficial if we managed to get some members there who are prepared to oppose these troublemakers.

We must remind you that you sent along two plants and to judge by the briefing they received they were complete cabbages’, but having found their briefing was a pack of lies they looked like radishes they were so embarrassed – the audience of chairmen must have thought they smelt like durion because it wasn’t long before they scuttled out like rats with their tails between their legs.

Astonishing really when you consider that Ian Jonathan Smith thought he was an expert on M15 and tried, with lack lustre support from the hapless little Herbert Hitt, to explain how M15 functioned and in so doing clearly and publicly slandered me, both in fact and by implication – however I’m not entirely certain that an ill informed imbecile would be held responsible for his lies in a Court of Law particularly since he could no doubt prove who had briefed him.

Gulleford may I suggest you do everyone a favour, but most especially yourself, LEAVE EUkip as a part of the cleaning up process and please NEVER again act as a parasite in the EUroSceptic movement you have done it consistent damage year in year out – just look at the mess EUkip is in in the Eastern Region, and that ALL took place on YOUR watch.

No wonder the CIB were so relieved when they were shot of you.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

MAY I SUGGEST – since there is no political party of repute advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

Posted in Alan Bown, Bannerman, Duffy, Eastern Region, EUkip, Gollom, Gulleford, Nuttall, Politics, Reeve, TITFORD, Tom WISE, UKIP | Leave a Comment »

#112* – Eastern Region Rises Against Corruption of EUkip Leadership It Seems!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/11/2008

#112* – Eastern Region Rises Against Corruption of EUkip Leadership It Seems!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip LEADERSHIP’S CORRUPTION & FARAGE’S REICHSTAG FIRE!

Hi,

I though we could get back to showing just how corrupt the management of EUkip is by mailing copies of a few eMails that are in circulation amongst certain members of the NEC & leadership of EUkip – some have come direct from the EU and some from those who are amongst or with access to leadership or NEC computers including their owners 😉

Sorry not to supply Mr. Farage and his corrupt cronies and Brown Shirts with further identities to add to his Reichstag Fire expulsion lists once he has enacted his Hitler style Enabling Act thereby dispensing with the Disciplinary Committee structure, deselecting those on the NEC who will not act as his puppets and muppets, suspending the Constitution and subsuming to himself and a few enforcers the right to expel people who will not go along with his lies, deceptions, duplicity and determination to at all cost get re-elected to the troughs on the gravy train.

It increasingly looks like: the only real funding will be siphoned to fund Farage getting his snout back in the EU troughs and then clearly the funds will be depleted – Farage’s idiot milch cow Alan Bown will have spent out – having been fool enough to pay for Nigel Farage & Andrew Smith’s unprofessional and irresponsible antics and lies.

Any Court cases will be brought against EUkip, where the duped NEC are bankers of last resort, and Farage will most probably jump ship.

He has already PROVED he is duplicitous, selfish, incompetent, without any leadership skills, unable to delegate, corrupt and dishonest. He and his cronies have also proved that they have no reputation to uphold nor have I ever wittingly misled or lied or they would have slapped a writ on me! However TRUTH is my provable defence 😉

Political Parties and men of integrity sue to defend their name not to make money!

I have ONLY told the truth – whether you like it or not.

You have my name, my address & my phone number – I have offered to be cross examined to establish I am telling the truth, at any mutually convenient time and place; before a public audience – those who I have exposed as liars, frauds, cheats, spivs and fools are more than welcome to cross examine me, to try to establish my details and opinions about them are untrue and or libellous, as I have NO wish to mislead or lie about anyone or anything.

How about these letters now 😉

Before you read them do be aware that George Curtis is a liar and corrupt – a coward, only too willing to curry favour by outright lies, as long as he thinks he will not be found out – he has been!

George Curtis has to my CERTAIN knowledge lied about me and also Robin Page & John West – I have read George Curtis’s weedling report to the NEC and also his eMail to the corrupt self appointed regional committee, which as we know harbours also the proven cheat and rascal Andrew Smith.

Smith acting WITH Farage and others looks as if he may well cost EUkip between £500,000 and £1,000,000 with his dishonesty and lies, in cahoots with Nigel Farage, David Lott and others.

George Curtis is a revolting coward and a sordid low life who when confronted on the phone was unable to give honest account of his grubby behaviour.

Anyway do read these letters from the NEC archives 😉

Dear All’
I would not normally interfere in another branch’s business, but in view of the contents and the fact that I have been copied in I will.
According to the rules as in force when this new committee first met, it was not elected as the rules then dictated. It was appointed by Tom Wise, which was not a legitimate means of ‘election’.
David Bannerman was given full\ documentation as to the illegality of the committee, and he repeatedly promised to sort it out. However he did not do this, and when he left the Party Chairmanship, the dosier was handed to John Whittacker, who maintained e-mail contact with me keeping me up-to-date with his progress in the matter. He replied to an e-mail of mine early this year with words to the effect that the problem had been sorted, because the new rules published in February 2008 would apply.
George Curtis’\problem now is that he has not followed the Feb 08 rules, so the committee is still\ illegal, and has been since early 2006. Incidentally he also illegally dissolved the previous committee.

George Curtis p.s. at the end of the invitation for the 29th Nov meeting is untrue, the activists who have been in regular contact and will be at the next meeting, meet for the good of UKIP and Britain, and` are fed-up with the rule-breaking at all levels of UKIP, not to mention the lies and deceit.There will be some senior UKIP members there and I strongly suggest that G Curtis sendsout a retraction of his p.s.

yours with many good reasons for fighting against the EU,

Martin HARVEY

In a message dated 07/11/2008 12:03:49 GMT Standard Time, reeve@ukip.org writes:

To Peter Cole.

Again your email is completely inaccurate and misleading. The email referring to ‘batches’ was sent to your home email yesterday.
RE: INVITATION
From:
PETER REEVE (reeve@ukip.org)
Sent:
06 November 2008 13:06:43
To:
peter cole(home) (kingcolehole@ntlworld.com)

Please also note that : Georges role as the Eastern Counties Chairman’s is legitimate. We have, on several occasions, checked with the appropriate people in the hierarchy of Party that there is no problem and all relevant individuals have been happy that both the committee and its officers are sound until just after the European Elections 2009.

Hope this helps. Pete
Peter Reeve
Regional Organiser
UKIP Eastern Counties

From: peterc@tomwisemep.co.uk
To: lenbay@tiscali.co.uk; reeve@ukip.org
CC: MartinHarveyONR@aol.com; johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: meeting 29th Nov. & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:13:40 +0000

Good morning Len,

To-date I have NOT been notified by Mr Reeve about ‘Batches’. I must agree with your last statement about Mr Reeve standing down but as Mr Curtis is a self appointed so called chairman of an unlawful committee I could not care less what he does as by UKIP’s own rules the position he states he holds does not exist!

Peterc

From: Len Baynes [mailto:lenbay@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 07 November 2008 08:52
To: PETER REEVE
Cc: Peter Cole; MartinHarveyONR@aol.com ; johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: meeting 29th Nov. & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.

Peter again you get it wrong please read my E-Mail as it was intended I quote ” If this situation is not resolved preety damn quick I will become independant” That in your wildest dreams is not a statement of fact, I was in this party long before you had even been on the distant horizon and will not get out just to allaviate a thorn in your side. I am afraid I cannot make the 29th of November due to a family birthday in Enfield but I am confident I will be truthfully informed of proceedings by my chairman.
As for my name on the national list it will be submitted when and if my branch select me and my chairman approves, I honestly think that is the right proceedure. But under the present situation I feel my call for you and Mr. Curtis to stand down is perfectly justified.

—– Original Message —–
From: PETER REEVE
To: Len Baynes ; peter cole(home) ; jan baynes ; george curtis
Cc: del1young@yahoo.co.uk ; derek norman ; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com ; john west ; martin harvey
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: meeting 29th Nov.þ & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.

To Len Baynes, Thanks for your email (Copy below), which I have forwarded to George Curtis as requested. Your suggestion that I have not included Peter Cole in the circulation lists are inaccurate.

I have already explained to Peter Cole (and john West) in emails this morning that : (So the batch with ‘C’ in and the batch with ‘W’ in haven’t been sent out REALLY so what has and how come I know people whose name begins with both ‘C’ & ‘W’ that have received your grubby fiddlings?) “Because we have been very successful in recruiting a large number of candidates in the Eastern Counties the advert has gone out in several batches and will be completed by the end of the week.

I look forward to seeing you on the 29th Nov.”(Rubbish – you have the sum total of 1,770 members on your Eastern Region data base and of that 470ish have eMail addresses – Do cut the spin – EUkip’s corrupt leadership is FINISHED) I have also included a copy of the circular (below) for your and their attention.

However your stated intention to stand against a UKIP candidate in elections is interesting and could explain some of your recent activity.

Thanks for letting me know. Please may I remind you, your Chairman and your Secretary via this email, that only candidates on the ‘National Approved List’ may go forward to a Constituency to be considered for selection as a Westminster Candidate for UKIP.

You are currently not on that list as you have not applied. If I can help with any other matter please do let me know. Pete Peter ReeveRegional OrganiserUKIP Eastern Counties reeve@ukip.org07792 290434Circular :
Subject: FW: Sat 29th Nov – valuable meeting date for your diary!þ

To all Branch Chairmen, (That we haven’t dishonestly removed) Westminster Prospective Candidates (That we haven’t dishonestly removed) and Prospective Local Candidates (That we haven’t dishonestly removed) We are very pleased to invite you to a full campaign briefing & discussion (Propaganda and spin rally to tell you a pack of lies?

We will also provide the latest fantasies in the Reichstag Fire Ploy to seize control of the party – your help is needed to aid this corruption) There will be senior party members present (That we haven’t dishonestly removed) who will give us details of the campaign plans and provide plenty of time for question and lies.

We will also have a full policy Question and Lie session, to go through any part of the manifesto or specific policy detail that you wish to discuss and address. Will Bannerman be resigning having lied to the party and brought EUroScepticism into disrepute and will he resign from his EU job that involves promoting the EU?

The aim of this meeting is to be an interactive session where senior party members can listen to your ideas and thoughts as well as provide answers to any questions that you have. I will provide details of the venue and full agenda very shortly. Please will you keep free in your diary for this valuable Reichstag rally.

Please do feel free to invite your branch officers and activists’ to come along and participate. If you have any queries please contact your Regional Organiser on (I’m not here to advertise corruption) Regards George Curtis Eastern Counties Chairman (Self Appointed Liar)

PS : We confirm that this an official UKIP meeting on CUT. We understand that some people may be inviting some branch chairmen etc. to an unofficial meeting in Newmarket (around 8th Nov) designed largely to attack the Party (NO Mr. Curtis you will find it is to expose liars like you).

They are attempting to disguise this as a meeting for activists, but we stress this is not official, not authorised, and no senior members will be present (Well that is a relief it will prevent them having to listen to liars like you or the sordid little desk delivery man Bannerman the liar, cheat and fraudster working for the EU).

We do recommend you attend this meeting. If you have any queries please do contact *******..[THE PHONE NUMBER THE LIAR GEORGE CURTIS GIVES IS THAT OF PETER REEVE ONE TIME RO BUT DESELECTED BY VARIOUS BRANCHES AND SUBJECT OF NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS TO THE NEC.] Peter Reeve lives with Lisa Duffy & her children and I gather a few of his – you will note La Duffy dishonestly gained her seat on the NEC and will no doubt be voting on the matter of Peter Reeve and the subject of those who have lodged legitimate complaints against Peter Reeve.

George Curtis’s phone number is: 01206 – 322 3221 Do phone him up and point out he is a liar and a coward and the meeting on the 8th. is very much official as it has been openly advertised with due notice

From: lenbay@tiscali.co.uk
To: reeve@ukip.org
CC: peterc@tomwisemep.co.uk; del1young@yahoo.co.uk; rebeldel@talktalk.net; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; johnwest81@hotmail.com; MartinHarveyONR@aol.com
Subject: meeting 29th Nov.
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:59:21 +0000

Peter please forward this to George Curtis. your actions in not inviting our branch chairman are at least diabolical and at best a downright insult.

I shall be standing in the local elections next year for Doddington and my name will go forward as PPC for NE. Cambs and I will do this with or without your sanction if need be as a independant. The actions of the present leadership and NEC, over the question of Mr. Abbott and Mr. Edmonds fill me with disgust and I am afraid if the present situation is not resolved preety damn quick I will become independant and stand against the official UKIP candidate and I know I have the following from the last election to make an impact.

I call on you both now in the interest of the party to stand down.

(DON’T BE SILLY LEN THESE ODIOUS CREEPS ARE LIKE THE COMMENT ON SH*t & BLANKETS – THEY ARE LIARS AND CHEATS BULLYS AND IN THIS FOR PERSONAL SELF GAIN. G.L-W.)
Then here is another letter the author of which I have removed as my NEC contact MIGHT not wish it to be known he had a copy of this 😉

Dear George Curtis

For one who has long been associated with an unelected “committee” to refer to the Newmarket meeting as you do in your postscript is laughably impertinent, in fact from anyone with any substance it would be slightly insulting.

The Newmarket meeting comprised grass roots members of the party most of whom have no political ambitions beyond the withdrawal of Britain from the E.U.. A number of us are members of long standing and of proven loyalty; far from wishing to damage the party we aim to strengthen it through the elimination of unconstitutional and undemocratic practises.

Nigel Farage has often said “This is a grass roots party.” and paid lip service to the debt owed to the “grass roots”. A modicum of leadership at N.E.C. level would have resolved our position long ago, instead we have been treated with condescension and disparagement.

This one is about the great arsehole of the East the liar, coward and general low life George Curtis and his dishonest attack on the meeting of the 8th. November – what a creep he is!
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:42:53 +0000The unelected chairman of an unelected committee has the nerve to attack an elected chairman for holding a meeting.

You couldn’t make it up.
John West

From: reeve@ukip.org
To: lenbay@tiscali.co.uk; kingcolehole@ntlworld.com; jan-clark@tiscali.co.uk; gscurtis@aspects.net
CC: del1young@yahoo.co.uk; rebeldel@talktalk.net; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; johnwest81@hotmail.com; martinharveyonr@aol.com
Subject: meeting 29th Nov.‏ & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:46:17 +0000
To Len Baynes,
Thanks for your email (Copy below), which I have forwarded to George Curtis as requested.

Your suggestion that I have not included Peter Cole in the circulation lists are inaccurate.

I have already explained to Peter Cole (and john West) in emails this morning that :

“Because we have been very successful in recruiting a large number of candidates in the Eastern Counties the advert has gone out in several batches and will be completed by the end of the week. I look forward to seeing you on the 29th Nov.”

I have also included a copy of the circular (below) for your and their attention. However your stated intention to stand against a UKIP candidate in elections is interesting and could explain some of your recent activity.

Thanks for letting me know. Please may I remind you, your Chairman and your Secretary via this email, that only candidates on the ‘National Approved List’ may go forward to a Constituency to be considered for selection as a Westminster Candidate for UKIP.

You are currently not on that list as you have not applied. If I can help with any other matter please do let me know.
Pete
Peter Reeve
Regional Organiser
UKIP Eastern Counties
07792 290434

Circular : from The Curtis chappie [*CUT* BORING!!!]

MORE!!!
From: lenbay@tiscali.co.uk
To: MartinHarveyONR@aol.com; johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: Fw: Selection of PPC
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:29:15 +0000

Having been through this process twice ,I am certain the branch acceptasnce comes first and then the selection panel or maybe I am getting senile, or heaven forbid Mr. Reeve has got it wrong yet again

—– Original Message —–
From: PETER REEVE
To: Len Baynes
Cc: jan baynes
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:21 PM
Subject: Selection of PPC

Len Please let me clarify. BEFORE you approach a branch for selection you MUST FIRST be on the National Approved list. This requires you to first apply to the process, then have an interview (The selection panel is organised by and includes the regional organiser). You will then be informed if you are on the approved list or not.

If you get onto the approved list – Then and ONLY then can you make an application to a constituency Association or Branch. Tom Wise, John West and Peter Cole all went through the process with varying outcomes and may be able to help you understand. I look forward to receiving your application form. If you require a copy of the form to complete, please let me know. I have again copied the Fenland Secretary into this email to confirm she is aware of the appropriate process.
Thanks.
Peter Reeve
Regional Organiser
UKIP Eastern Counties
reeve@ukip.org
07792 290434

From: lenbay@tiscali.co.uk
To: reeve@ukip.orgCC: peterc@tomwisemep.co.uk; MartinHarveyONR@aol.com; johnwest81@hotmail.comSubject:
Re: meeting 29th Nov.‏ & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:52:28 +0000

Peter again you get it wrong please read my E-Mail as it was intended I quote ” If this situation is not resolved preety damn quick I will become independant” That in your wildest dreams is not a statement of fact, I was in this party long before you had even been on the distant horizon and will not get out just to allaviate a thorn in your side. I am afraid I cannot make the 29th of November due to a family birthday in Enfield but I am confident I will be truthfully informed of proceedings by my chairman. As for my name on the national list it will be submitted when and if my branch select me and my chairman approves, I honestly think that is the right proceedure. But under the present situation I feel my call for you and Mr. Curtis to stand down is perfectly justified.

—– Original Message —–
From: PETER REEVE
To: Len Baynes ; peter cole(home) ; jan baynes ; george curtis
Cc: del1young@yahoo.co.uk ; derek norman ; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com ; john west ; martin harvey
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: meeting 29th Nov.‏ & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.

To Len Baynes,
Thanks for your email (Copy below), which I have forwarded to George Curtis as requested.
Your suggestion that I have not included Peter Cole in the circulation lists are inaccurate.

I have already explained to Peter Cole (and john West) in emails this morning that :

“Because we have been very successful in recruiting a large number of candidates in the Eastern Counties the advert has gone out in several batches and will be completed by the end of the week. I look forward to seeing you on the 29th Nov.”

I have also included a copy of the circular (below) for your and their attention. However your stated intention to stand against a UKIP candidate in elections is interesting and could explain some of your recent activity.

Thanks for letting me know. Please may I remind you, your Chairman and your Secretary via this email, t hat only candidates on the ‘National Approved List’ may go forward to a Constituency to be considered for selection as a Westminster Candidate for UKIP. You are currently not on that list as you have not applied.
If I can help with any other matter please do let me know.
Pete
Peter Reeve
Regional OrganiserUKIP Eastern Counties

It is amazing that with this sort of behaviour – the lies and dishonesty that was the scam to its cronies as PPCs for the EU where they were happy to fleece members for £250 to compete in a rigged election and then steal £1,000 from those they listed to do the hustings work with no chance, agreeing Farage can personally select the top candidates in each region in April.
JUST HOW STUPID ARE EUkip CANDIDATES
and where did Bannerman scrape up £1,000 or has he sold the desk!

EUkip leadership & NEC have admitted they are corrupt and that is why they refunded the money for breech of contract to several candidates who demanded it (including Lynnda Robson, Robin Page and no doubt others – at the moment I gather claims have been lodged in the Courts by others!).

They KNOW that EUkip hasn’t a leg to stand on as their internal report by their own Returning Officer clearly stated the election was corrupt and should be re-run by a trustworthy body as the Leadership had proved untrustworthy – which is why I published the facts.

I hope the honest members who turn up to the meeting later today will be able to make forward strides to clean up the party in the East working towards removal of liars, cheats, the corrupt, the self interested and the crooks – the likes of Bannerman, Reeve, Duffy, Gulleford, Titford, Curtis, Smith, Agnew, Whitmore & similar pond life attracted by the troughs on the gravy train.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

MAY I SUGGEST – since there is no political party of repute advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:LEAVE THE EU

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111* – Well Mr. Bannerman CLAIMS to be a Script Writer & IS Fuller on the Payroll?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/11/2008

#111* – Well Mr. Bannerman CLAIMS to be a Script Writter & IS Fuller on the Payroll?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip LEADERSHIP’S CORRUPTION & FARAGE’S REICHSTAG FIRE!

Talk about setting it up for a night of the long knives – the transparency is staggering!

But as you all know David Bannerman is a fantasist, fraud, liar and wanabe script writer, who is DESPERATE to have a proper job after so many years as a serial failure & bag carrier for the Tories – he must feel such a pratt having made such a fool of himself in EUkip.

There is a fun blog on the internet – do have a look and it is so redolent of some sort of childish plot Bannerman might dream up as a wanabe script writer, of Croucher in a determination to do Searchlight’s work for them and bring EUkip into disrepute or perhaps Fuller to get her revenge for Farage’s failure to get her what she wanted!

Anyway do read it as it is quite a well dreamed up fantasy that Farage & his corrupt cronies just might think they can get away with it – cunning, duplicitous and dishonest they are but no one ever said they were much beyond stupid and we all know they are terrified they will get their snouts kicked out of the EU’s feeding troughs.

Hi,watching Farage self destruct is getting to be a bit like shooting fish in a barrel.Firstly may I remind you that Nigel Farage, David Bannerman and their entire crew of corrupt self seeking self enriching scum that has seized control of EUkip – whether liars like Malcolm Wood, fraudsters, liars & cheats like Bannerman, Duffy and their ilk, womanising self enriching drunkards like Farage, spivs and nere do wells like Moran, the fundamentally untrustworthy like Mickelthwaite, the foul mouthed like Zucherman, Denny & Fuller, the self seekers & untrustworthy like Trevor Colman, Gawain Towler, the infatuated and the self seekers like Seymour, Oxley, Andreassen, Blob Feel Martinis etc. etc.

Nor the various hopeless and hapless puppets and muppets like NuttAll, Gill, Reeve etc. etc.Please NOTE the EUkip NEC where Farage started to implement his Reichstag Fire speech with the fantasies of BNP infiltration, the need to dispense with the Disciplinary Committee as it might be infiltrated with BNP and suspend the Constitution to make control of the party central having dispensed with the NEC as it may have infiltrators & until the party suits the ‘Glorious Leader’ the poor man is becoming deranged & paranoid – next he will have a dog called Blondy and be bedding his youngest cousins!

One has to laugh when you listen to the tapes of the NEC where they are tring to remove the people they have branded libellously as BNP – whether this is a case of:’

The lunatics firing The Doctors from The Asylum’
or:’
What need has a party on the verge of technical bankruptcy with a Doctor of Economics and when in such bad health of a Doctor of Medicine – they are possibly making way for a Doctor of Psychiatry & an abortionist!’

With apologies to those who are libelled I am publishing this as it clearly libels and defames me and just to show what depths of depravity EUkip Reichstag Fire Plan will sink!

NOTE:
Favoured EUkip village idiot posted the URL for this blog site at 08:48hrs. 02-Nov-08.

The main Reichstag Fire Plan was outlined at 08:11hrs. 03-Nov-08
The EUkip NEC meeting commenced at 13:00hrs. 03-Nov-08

Fearfull that some may have missed the scam & details Mark Croucher republished the URL yesterday not realising those with knowledge of the facts had seen right through it.

By the way their GUESS that I might have a Criminal Record is quite right – it is well known and I have spoken openly of it for years – do phone me for details if you like – I have a Section One FireArms Conviction on two counts in 1981?
one for possession of a firearm (handgun, pistol, automatic)
the second for 50 rounds of hollow point drilled, mercury filled magnum rounds.
‘Guilty as charged’ 😉
it was shipped back into Britain from Africa by professional packers, in error.
WOW what a revelation!
Just how corrupt are these people? Having access, not just to spent convictions, but also 27 years ago!

I also have another conviction for having permitted the local prison bait (47 convictions – John Farley roofer and pro. Rugby Player) at a children’s party I had organised in Chepstow he threatened me and then hit me!
I warned him if he hit me again it would be self defence if I killed him – he took a swing at me so I layed him flat on his back stunned.

His defence in Court was that I assaulted him inept and corrupt magistrate Councillor John Parker found me guilty – at appeal to Crown the judge appologised to me for the miscarriage, issued a rebuke to Chepstow Magistrates Bench and refunded my costs for both cases without receipts!

Yes I have a criminal record of which I am not remotely ashamed which is why they probably didn’t publish it knowing I have dined out on both stories for ¼ Century.

Last heard of John Farley was in a high security prison for having killed his son’s wife!

It’s the rest that would scare them 😉

I am aware of the facts relative to the fantasy published and will be happy to present anywhere convenient to me (health & time) to prove this entire fantasy is no more than a dishonest construct – seemingly to provide a small group of liars cheats and the corrupt in EUkip leadership to create a Reichstag Fire moment to trump up dishonest claims and outright lies about EUkip members with integrity, who are standing in the way by telling the truth.

NIGEL FARAGE IS A DISHONEST, CORRUPT, WOMANISING, PROFLIGATE, DUNK without morality, integrity or probity.

NIGEL FARAGE has surrounded himself with kindred spirits and gullible idiots, for his personal gain.

Enjoy the tale of fantasy and fabrication, which is Nigel Farage’s REICHSTAG FIRE moment.

REMEMBER – I am happy to appear on ANY public platform and confront the author of the following fantasy and will willingly dismantle and disprove every single solitary lie they have put forward to build their Reichstag Fire Moment – I would suggest Farage, Bannerman, Fuller, Croucher, NuttAll, Oxley, Zucherman & Denny bring their fantasies to the meeting with the identified author of the quoted blog
(suffice to say 78332211etc. who by law GOOGLE must identify to confirm my information – it is them upto those who have been libelled and defamed).

I shall NOT take legal action for three reasons:

1. Anyone of integrity or common sense knows the comments about me are largely lies with a large body of obvious lies built on one or two unrelated honest facts.

2. I have neither the time nor the money to prosecute criminals who will have dishonestly constructed themselves as men of straw, with no reputation or integrity to be besmirched.

3. I consciously set out on a patriotic basis to clean up a series of rat nests and septic tanks that they have tried to nip me and have thrown sh*t at me is nothing a good bath will not solve.

My Reputation, being founded on fact, is palpably strong enough over some 60 years of rigid integrity and indisputable honesty to withstand the onslaught of these sordid little people.

Enjoy The Fairy Stories: Monday, 3 November 2008

Abbott,
Edmonds, Lance-Watkins, Hockney, de Rook and Edwards

Stories reach the
Common Man of negotiations at a high level between the BNP and UKIP. Of
scurrilous e-mails from anonymous sources being sent to the membership. Of
shenanigans in the MEP selection process. Of attempts to rig NEC elections to
favour certain candidates. Of tapes of NEC meetings.UKIP 2009? No, UKIP 2004,
when almost the same scenario was played out. On the BNP team, the players were
the same: BNP leader Nick Griffin and his motley band of convicted criminals and
failed businessmen. On the UKIP team at that time were BNP mole Andrew Edwards,
standing in for Greg Lance-Watkins, and the Abbott/Edmonds double act of their
day, Damien Hockney and John De Rook. UKIP substitutes included one-time
Yorkshire chairman Michael Cassidy-Scutts, Tory agitator Martin Cole and the BNP
treasurer, John Brayshaw, parachuted into a defunct UKIP branch in Yorkshire as
chairman to lend credence to the plays. The BNP’s gameplan? Exactly the same as
this time around: an e-mail campaign calling for truth, honesty and integrity,
which accuses the entire leadership of more debauchery than Nero’s court,
culminating in an attempt to fiddle a list of BNP sympathisers, self-promoters
and ‘don’t care who helps as long as we win’ want-to-be’s to the top of MEP
lists and onto the NEC.Luckily in 2004, the plan was forestalled at the last
minute. The Common Man hears that Hockney managed to suppress the details by
issuing a writ for libel, despite using in his writ extracts from a tape of the
NEC meeting where the plot was exposed. The same tape would have defeated his
own libel action, because it was clear that the presenters of the NEC report
into the affair (then chairman David Lott and then communications director Mark
Croucher) did not accuse him of direct links to the BNP, only of being so
desperate to gain control of the party that he didn’t care who was helping him.
Edwards was thrown out of UKIP, as was Brayshaw, Cassidy-Scutts left, and Cole
disappeared without trace once his usefulness to the Tories in heading off a
UKIP advance ceased. Interestingly, Cole had worked with Alan Duncan MP at the
time his oil brokerage was breaking UN sanctions by selling oil to Yugoslavia.
The involvement of senior UKIP members was hushed up by the terms of the
politically expedient settlement of the libel action.The present day play bears
an uncanny similarity to the 5 year old one. This time, Mr Lance-Watkins’ is the
Mr Edwards, with his wide ranging leaks of NEC material supplied by Misters-
Abbott and -Edmonds. In a refinement of the BNP gameplan, which made up in
enthusiasm what it lacked in originality, long term infiltrators such as John
West and Martin Harvey were used to lend credence to the idea that there was a
problem with the MEP selection process. On this foundation, Lance-Watkins used
his extensive e-mail database, built up over many years interference in UKIP’s
internal affairs, to sow the same rumours that were used 5 years ago without
success, all leading to the appearance of Buster Mottram at UKIP’s NEC meeting
yesterday. Mottram was brought along by Martin Haslam, UKIP deputy treasurer, to
defend himself against charges of leaking information to the press, and
admittance for Mottram was gained by Misters- Abbott and -Edmonds using this
pretext. The trio then sat back and waited for the show to begin, having all
been party, with Mr Lance-Watkins, to the negotiations. Following earlier
experience, both Abbott and Edmonds taped the meeting, and immediately provided
the tapes to Lance-Watkins.The BNP’s offer was straightforward: ditch UKIP
Leader Farage, and enter an electoral pact, splitting the country between the
two parties. In 2004, it was the same except that the condition was to ditch
then UKIP Leader Roger Knapman. Then, the new leader would have been Damien
Hockney with Mr De Rook as deputy, while the current plan would have seen Mr
Edmonds heading up the remains of the party, with Mr Abbott as deputy.It all
began to fall apart when Mr Lance-Watkins proved unable once again to keep quiet
over the details and insisted on issuing an ultimatum at the end of the previous
week. In 2004, the end was very similar when Mr Edwards was caught out in a
similar way over John Brayshaw, allowing UKIP to expel them both before the trap
could be sprung. It is there that the similarites end, unfortunately. This time,
the BNP did have negotiations with senior UKIP figures in the persons of
Misters- Abbott and -Edmonds, and all those involved were aware of the others
and exactly what their game plan was. The ad-hoc nature of 2004 was replaced by
a much more determined approach with a concerted plan which, even though based
on the earlier version, shows that even the BNP can learn from their past
mistakes. The branch chairmen and ordinary members who fell for it this time
were as always in BNP plans expendable cannon fodder and useful fools. The real
changes were at the top. In 2004, Mssrs Hockney and De Rook were simply used
because they displayed enough naked ambition to not care where their help was
coming from. This time, the senior UKIP people were already closely linked to
the BNP, and were made aware of the other BNP pieces in play to avoid repetition
of earlier mistakes.Although the BNP appear the losers they have not really lost
that much. Abbott and Edmonds were about to be expelled as details of the
negotiations surfaced over the previous week or so, while Lance-Watkins BNP
links have become increasingly obvious in recent months to the point where even
his supporters are distancing themselves from him. The trick for the BNP now as
in 2004 is to try and turn the cleaning up process around, and make the
subsequent expulsions from UKIP of those who were involved in the negotiations
seem unfair and a part of a wider witch-hunt. If the game continues to play as
it did in 2004, UKIP members will see through such troublemaking.
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The Common Man at 08:11
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Sunday, 2 November 2008
Gregg
Beaman’s mysterious departure

Now the dust has died down about Gregg
Beaman’s mysterious departure as both NW Regional Organiser and lead candidate,
the truth is beginning to out. Strange to say it isn’t found on Mr Beaman’s own
blog which gives his noble reasons for standing aside, and which has now stopped
taking postings from anonymous users because their comments were getting a
little close to the truth of the matter. Even libertarianism has its bounds at
the edge of untrammeled free speech.Sources close to the anti-UKIP movement
within UKIP tell the Common Man that the real reason concerns an NEC member, a
laptop and Democracy Forum. Users of Democracy Forum should take a look at
postings by user name ‘Rosie’, who wrote “I saw how hard Greg Beaman worked when
he formed the branch I was in, and two or three nearby ones”, “Greg Beaman was
certainly the popular choice when I left the North West over a year ago now, and
I hear he still is as he has a long and solid track record”.The same forum
spends some time discussing Mr Beaman’s departure and how it was a conspiracy by
the leadership to get rid of him because Paul Nuttall was the preferred choice
for the number one slot in the North West.It will be interesting to see how they
react to the news that Rosie and Gregg Beaman are one and the same, gender
confusion notwithstanding. This less than earth-shattering piece of news came to
light when Mr Beaman returned a borrowed laptop, forgetting to remove the
incriminating evidence first, and wasting all his hard work, time and effort in
climbing the greasy pole as a regional organiser to get to the top of the list
while at the same time attacking the leadership anonymously via a public forum
and a series of contacts with people who are decidedly not UKIP’s greatest fans.
The subject of his attacks included then UKIP Chairman John Whittaker MEP, who
was a staunch supporter of Mr Beaman’s attempt to gain the number one slot on
the list, and UKIP Leader Nigel Farage MEP, who was responsible for his
paycheques.The face saving formula of allowing Mr Beaman to resign quietly
clearly isn’t working, as the Common Man hears that his involvement with the
anti-UKIP cause continues just as his vaguely worded blog entry leaves visitors
with the impression that UKIP had done something wrong. How his opposition to
UKIP taking seats in the European Parliament squares with the effort he put into
gaining first place on the list is matter for others to discuss but there was no
point of principle involved in using an MEP’s allowance to send out a regional
newsletter which was little more than a campaign mailshot or in using an
alter-ego to sing his own praises.
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Saturday, 1 November 2008
Trevor
Colman and foot in mouth disease

Much talk on Democracy Forum about TC
and an alleged smear campaign against him claiming he made racist comments.
Maybe, maybe not. It wouldn’t be the first time in his short career as an
MEP.News reaches us that at his welcoming meeting in Strasbourg he was enjoying
a chat with a fellow attendee, telling them how much he hated Farage, and how in
his days as a copper they knew how to deal with troublesome journalists who took
too much of an interest in such boring issues as police corruption – lock them
in a cell with a couple of burly PCs, and then beat the crap out of them.
Medecine to be repeated daily until cured. Other such indiscretions tumbled from
his lips, leaving a bemused European Editor of a national daily, for such was
his audience, wishing it had not been a private meeting because it would have
made a lovely front page.Not the first time such comments have been made by TC,
however. Another source tells the Common Man that he thought this would have
been an ideal way of dealing with Tom Wise, who he cleared, then smeared, then
cleared again shortly before Wise’s arrest.With friends like this to show UKIP’s
best face to the media, who needs enemies?
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Thursday, 23 October 2008
I see the
latest Greg Lance-Watkins rant has arrived in inboxes, including a significant
section devoted to the BNP. After republishing large parts of their website, he
thoughtfully finishes with a couple of lines about how bad they are, paying
special attention to how shocking it is that some of them deny the
holocaust.Strange that he should be so particular, as it was only two weeks ago
that he was fending off accusations that he himself supported holocaust deniers
after old e-mails from him surfaced praising organisations such as Al-Quaeda,
Hamas and the PLO, all of whom deny the holocaust.But as if that isn’t bad
enough, rumours also began to circulate about just how close his links to the
BNP were or are. Discussion on the Democracy Forum (formerly UKIP Forum) centred on how he apparently attempted to mislead a group of UKIP activists into
attending a political weekend at a local pub to which he had secretly invited
BNP leader Nick Griffin. His defence, amazingly, was that Nick Griffin had
phoned him and asked to attend – as if having the leader of Britain’s
blackshirts phoning up and inviting themselves around was somehow better than
having invited him.The actual cause of these revelations was a ding-dong between
him and former UKIP PR man Mark Croucher, who took umbrage at one rant too many
from the erstwhile Watkins. More apparently is due to come, as I understand
details of Watkins criminal record have recently come to light.
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#110* – Did Mr. Mottram Provide Farage’s REICHSTAG Moment?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/11/2008

#110* – Did Mr. Mottram Provide Farage’s REICHSTAG Moment?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

Hi,

EUkip’s Ever Greater Shame

FIRSTLY:

“He (NIGEL FARAGE) told the BBC there had been an attempt “over many months” to infiltrate and try to “demoralise” UKIP members into thinking there was no
future without a deal with the BNP.”We had worked out who those people were,
that had infiltrated UKIP, we were on the verge of getting rid of them, and they
began to panic so they thought they would play their trump card.”The party says
it expects more people to leave within the next few months.”**END**

There is every good reason to believe that this is a total pack of lies – I base this on the willingness of Farage and those around him to lie, cheat and slander to keep their snouts in the troughs.

Interestingly one of Farage’s most dishonest supporters his over paid spin doctor and ex press officer Mark Croucher, who has done such harm to EUkip in his odious bullying and repetitive dishonesty whilst a paid servant of the party and whilst still having access to official minutes and similar confidential material presumably controlled by The Party secretary has let slip that clearly he is working directly for EUkip.

In Croucher’s attempt to rubbish a EUkip senior member he concedes, one might say officially, that the NEC elections were corrupt and the leadership election was also corrupt (well we all knew that but he bases his confession on a lie!).

Now let us look at some factual history.Ms. Holdsworth resigned mostly over the issue of the refusal of Farage and his cronies on the gravy train to provide transparent accounting or responsible behaviour as they refused to let it be known to the NEC what staff the party had, or what their MEPs did all week.

She also refused to accept the abuse and childish behaviour that was prevalent amongst the self seeking MEPs who had seemingly abandoned the members and gone native.

Also having been thwarted in attempts to establish the truth of the criminality of Tom Wise as subsequently published in the media.Part of her final contribution to EUkip was to establish a more competent structure starting with a new and more professional constitution – which she did, working with the few competent members on the NEC.

Unfortunately after she resigned the constitution was tampered with by others damaging large tracks of its intent and its accountability to members. The demarcations between that which was professionally drawn up and the amateur alterations can be seen by the informed reader.

Subsequent to the Chairman’s resignation legal advice would seem in the main to have been supplied by The Party Secretary whose competence and professionalism can be seen by the fact that he signed off the shoddy alterations, has little or no control of either his personal ambitions or his mouth.

Further astonishingly as Party Secretary he is willing to act with undeclared and morally contemptible conflict of interest in allocation of legal work.

However one can tell the calibre of his professionalism as a solicitor and the calibre of his competence in terms of legal advice – surely only a fool of the proportions of Rachel Oxley or Douglas Denny would tender such low grade legal advice as to have EUkip found guilty in the courts rather than act competently and honestly – surely it was his duty to protect the party against the lies, dishonesty and clearly breeches of law by Andrew Smith as accountant when he deserted his position of trust leaving the accounts in a shambles having clearly been involved in dishonesty with Nigel Farage, David Lott and others.

Only a fool would ignore legal challenges and threats of substance such as tampering with internet eMails in trust, criminal breech of the Data Protection Act, rigging of elections, orchestration of a corrupt and dishonest enquiry by Trevor Colman who was so dishonest he refused to carry out his duty as a citizen let alone a retired police officer.

Then to further bring EUkip into disrepute Farage has failed to keep the lid on his garbage can Croucher, or the sordid behaviour he has been involved in himself.Similarly the fact that Bannerman who is a proven liar, fraud and cheat is deputy leader and in the employ of the EU is a measure of the manner in which EUkip would seek to lead or represent if voted into any office.

Farage must be cock a hoop if not in collusion with Mr. Mottram!For some months as EUkip has ‘milled’ all but leaderless with collapsing membership, near vanished activists, delusional half baked policies, lost and leaderless there have been endless criticism of the incompetence of the NEC & Leadership manifest in endless lies and cover-ups, profligacy with other people’s money, untrusted and clearly untrustworthy accounts, surrounded by spivs & parasites in Farage’s entourage of chavs and trash that brought nothing but shame to the party EXCEPT sycophantic adulation of ‘Our Glorious Leader’ whose competence is quite clearly limited to a series of sound bites, a few 90 second speeches and 3 tub thumping speeches we have all heard ad naseam – all 3 cigarette papers end on end they are now so thin!

During the last few weeks Farage and his cronies have desperately trying to blame their palpable incompetence on something ANYTHING other than their total incompetence – finally sickened by the lies he had to put his name to John Wittacker resigned and Farage put in a puppet – a measure of this shaven headed Liverpool scally’s competence was that at his first meeting as chairman the police had to be called to restore order.

Godfrey Bloom had to be restrained and finally the chairman himself surrounded by the foul language of the Party secretary, the childish Denny, the risible Clark in a tantrum, the meeting collapsed with the Chairman looking like a maggot on a spring bright red with anger reverting to his roots and threatening to attack Mr. Mottram.

The meeting and Farage’s subsequent idiotic comments about the BNP were such that it left Clive Page in the press office desperately trying to keep EUkip out of the courts phoning around to assure people that the comments about the BNP had no connection with the kangaroo court and unconstitutional and morally reprehensible abuses aimed at preventing John West, Dr. Abbott & Dr. Edmond from representing some 6,000 members who asked them to represent them and clean up EUkip and start by cleaning out the rats nest of corruption supporting EUkip’s catastrophic leader and the liar, cheat and fraud Bannerman.

The attempt to present a solution to EUkip’s impecunity with a mere £45,000 in the bank and pending forfeitures and costs that may run to between £500,000 & £1,000,000 from the lies of Farage, Smith etc. and the crass legal advice, presumably from the imbecilic Zucherman that has led to this position.

Realising that there is every possibility that before the courts come collecting on this the first calamitous legal action. Then there are the costs and fines that may well accrue from the various legal cases being brought by the police, OLAF, DPA and others – leading to probable subsequent cases founded on likely guilty verdicts such as any damages claims made by Robin Page, John West and others displaced by kangaroo court hijackings and unelected committees running out of control by excercising authority they do not have.

Of course there is every possibility that EUkip will be forced to act honestly and follow the advice of its appointed Returning Officer which would lead to refunding some £20,000 so far obtained by false pretences and then re-run the selection process honestly this time with it overseen by an outside agency that can be trusted as it was clear from the report that the NEC, Leadership and staff can not be trusted.

One wonders if the NEC are aware that under law the NEC is the banker of last resort – let us see just how much of a fool Alan Bown is – will he pay for the bad advice, the lies and incompetence of Andrew Smith, Nigel Farage, David Lott and others?

Will he fund such legal costs as are mounting on other cases, will he pay the damages ALL incurred by Nigel Farage as leader and the utter incompetence of his team.May I presume to advise Dr. Abbott, Dr. Edmond & John West – make absolutely no effort to regain your rightfull seats on the NEC and I would advise Del Young to find a way to leave with haster.

The NEC has 15 members I believe however looking at those who are proud to accept liability for EUkip’s potential debts I note there are now 10 – so that will be debt divided by 10? Well no actually as probably you will find, since I understand the law states that the matter is jointly and severally!

So will Farage pay up? – well I doubt it as he always moans he has no money and is not recorded as a donor even to EUkip, anyway the money he has ‘acquired’ is recorded as off shore!

Then there is Bannerman and all he is worth after many years as a bag carrier of little significance and openly stated as desperate for the job of MEP, thus probably a man of straw – nothing there then.

Zucherman a different case and I presume together with Oxley responsible for the legal opinions seemingly of similar calibre but I would hazard a gues the courts are unlikely to persue Oxley considering her of little substance in view of how much may be owed!

Then consider the likelihood that it would be worth going to Liverpool to collect off of our puppet scally.

That leaves Denny, who although a serial liar I incline to believe his claim he owns nothing, Delboy was unable to provide a CV during the leadership election which was the only reason I campaigned to expose him, as there was always the risk with a chappie who was unknown and unwilling to state or show a CV that they MIGHT have just arrived from St. Quintin or Njemina Prison!

Duffy, well having had to lie and cheat to get on the NEC and with merely the talents to work on the floor in a down market store one would probably be safe assuming she would be unlikely to fund the debts especially with numerous kids and no husband! Her fellow MAY be liable under law but as an RO about all he could muster in clout was the ability to remove those who campaigned and provide contacts that may well get one’s partner electedto the NEC

Jill Seymour well I’m sure her husband will be happy to chip in and since it is jointly and severally it would seem that Seymour, Zucherman, Bown & Gill are the most likely to have to pay up in full or in part – as decided by the Court but I’m sure Denny, Duffy, Nuttall, Bannerman & Farage will be happy to stump up their share!

Perhaps Mr. Mottram’s rather lame suggestion of an electoral pact has played right into Nigel Farage’s hands as this would seem to be his Reichstag Fireshudder, wriggle, fear we are under attack by the BNP – so what!

Is EUkip so very weak that the vile BNP is really a threat! – have Farage and his gang so alienated the members of EUkip that even the revolting BNP may be a better option?

Now just a minute – the mere suggestion in the 5 minutes allotted to Mr. Mottram by Farage should have left EUkip with the upper hand as after 5 minutes a competent chairman could have stepped in and graciously thanked Mr. Mottram, asked him if he would care to remain as an observer or leave with his friend Mr. Hasslam.
A clear and unequivocal rejection by the chairman or Farage would have sufficed and a brief clarification as to why that was unacceptable and then just for clarity I believe a vote would have sealed the matter
– Further thanks, a 3 minute break before returning to constructively representing the interests of the remaining members.

BUT NO this was permitted to get totally out of hand with Zucherman making racist outbursts accusing a long term member invited to speak by the leader of being a ‘Nazi’!!

We also have this professional solicitor later on using the F*** word openly as representation of the members in a mixed meeting of EUkip’s management committee!

Similarly Denny & Clarke were near hysterical, Oxleys manners were those of the gutter and Bloom & Nuttall were taking it in turns to threaten to thump people!

Just as a point of interest, in view of the many thoroughly decent members I have met over the years – just where do you find these trash?

Do you really believe they represent ANY British Values of note – liars, bullies, foul mouthed, drunks, womanisers, cheats, frauds – how very proud you must be to be represented by such people!

How very very convenient for Farage to seek to blame his utter incompetence and the behaviour of his failed team on the BNP – I guess he believes in the tooth fairy too!EUkip is no more under attack from the BNP than it is ignored by the 2 main parties who like the media have discounted EUkip as an irrelevance in British politics since they have stuffed the filing draws of the media and filled their hard disks with enough stories to be able to produce them if need be during the election but of no interest at the moment.

Farage occupies the BBC’s 3 or 4 Question Time slots a year – you will note the BBC will be ale to leave EUkip out during the electoral period as having had their quota and anyway you only have one tried and tested performer and he has been on a lot last year!

Wake up and smell the coffee – Farage and his antics has destroyed any hope EUkip once had.

Then the lunacy of seemingly being unable to find an accountant of repute to do the books in Britain – or is this more Reichstag Fire – do we await the announcement of irresponsibility that in trawling the books around the continent just to hire some political prostitute who has tried to hire out almost anywhere to get her snout in the EU trough, seemingly Farage offered to ‘squeeze’ her in even though she does believe the EU is a good idea and just needs a bit of changing – too right she has NOTHING in common with Britain or the values of UKIP’s grass roots members.

Not a bad bit of ‘squeeze’ when it comes to it – a part time job without responsibility where the cheques are sent to you in Barcelona, Brusells, Strasbourg, Denmark or wherever the weather suits her, signed and then sent back for distribution! – it would seem to be obscenely over paid when you consider the organisation had £45,000 according to whoever actually does the books – the treasure gets £36,000+ and expenses we understand – not bad when you consider previous treasurers did at least claim to be interested in the cause and worked pro bono.

It could be argued in view of the professional incompetence & dishonesty of Andrew Smith and the disaster he has exposed EUkip to, EUkip should have paid a professional, but what is wrong with one OF REPUTE from Britain, or is Farage’s reputation such that no one wants the job?

I presume the purpose of Farage’s Reichstag Fire was to scream BNP or Tooth Fairy or some such, we are under attack (that’s politics idiot!), then he will set up his ‘Enabling Act’ set aside the Disciplinary Committee claiming they can’t be trusted and the Tooth Fairy might have invaded!

Next it will be for the sake of the Party because we are under invasion by the Viet Kong or Winnie The Pooh or something (more likely Pink Elephants in Farage’s case – delerium tremens may account for his shakes!), we must suspend the Constitution until after the elections and as the NEC can’t be trusted because someone made a suggestion (A MEMBER Nigel Farage invited to make a 5 minute presentation of his idea!).

Infamy Infamy he screeched like a latter day Kenneth Williams we must suspend the NEC, well nothing ever got done there! – Farage already has a corrupt and dishonest group called the Political Committee, hand picked yes men and useless puppets.

Beware The Reichstag Fire – well actually no this is more a bonfire of his vanity as he makes ever more of a fool of himself.Farage – YOU ARE A JOKE – quite a good performing monkey as I’ve always said, but as a leader totally out of your depth and you know what that looks like you watched your puppet Nuttall and your little army of useless muppets on Monday – what a Co** U*

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#107* – EUkip Puppets Now On Chains?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/11/2008

#107* – EUkip Puppets Now On Chains?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

Hi,

TUESDAY 4th-Nov-2008 YET MORE NAILS IN EUkip’s FINAL COLLAPSE IN DISGRACE

I note the desperate mess EUkip are getting in unable to rebut a single fact I have published Nigel’s little goffer has had to troll through his searchlight records and hunt through Google and Mark Croucher hasn’t been able to come up with a single substantive item against me that hasn’t long since been kicked way into touch as unmitigated nonsense.

They are now so desperate that Mark Croucher has had to recycle old lies he has used before, I note he even repeats the same errors when before it was proved his understanding of English usage merely made a fool of him:
Do try to remember what EMPATHISE means Croucher!

Little Mark Croucher was too stupid to grasp the concept last time the nonsense he was spouting was shown to be absolute tosh.

Try not to keep making a fool of yourself though I do understand your need to be seen to be performing for your master – that you again make a fool of yourself with rehashed repetition of debunked drivel speaks volumes – I guess repeating lies is a hazard of being owned by another man and having to sing for your supper.

Croucher do go away and play with your drinks you are just becoming a sad figure of ridicule and pitied by all but a few gullible idiots, like ANYONE who thinks you were EVER value for money – you are just a figure of pity leaping up and down to earn your crust.

Back to the FACTS and let us try to ignore inadequates and their lies.

I have just received this from my EU contact, and had it confirmed, I understand it was sent out quite a while ago and you will note it endorses virtually every aspect of what I have stated about EUkip’s dishonest NEC meeting and the shouting, bullying and incompetence of those set up as puppets to control it.

The staggering thing is these liars and cheats frauds and spivs in the leadership are again and again proven to be low lifes of no credibility some even criminal and it is proven – there are numerous legal cases they have brought upon themselves and it is looking increasingly certain that they are about to be hit with a bill in the region of £500,000 to £1,000,000 and their only consequential backer is beginning to wake up and realise he has been taken for the mug he clearly is – just turned upside down by a bunch of self serving spivs to have his pockets emptied – laughed about behind his back for his gullibility and when it comes to the crunch cut adrift to face The Judicial Review alone!

I believe it would be an honourable action on the part of Alan Bown to refuse to pay for the dishonesty and incompetence of Andrew Smith and David Lott and the idiotic weenie waggling of the massively insecure Nigel Farage. The three of them having irrefutably personally incurred this debt.

If I was Dr. Abbott, Dr. Eric Edmond, John West or Del Young I for one would be consulting Councel for a sound ‘Opinion’ as to how best to ensure I was NOT on the NEC as the NEC are bankers of last resort and thus Jointly & Severally liable for the debts of The Party.

Does Brian Seymour know his wife’s ambitions with Farage’s corrupt crew could cost him £100s of £1,000s similarly the Weasle Rachel Oxley with her knickers stuffed with her legal opinions to glibly distribute.

I wonder will they pursue the shaven headed Liverpool Scally Farage has put in as his puppet or the undeniably corrupt Bannerman or perchance that other man of straw and liar Douglas Denny or the cheat and clearly corrupt Lisa Duffy or will the Courts and bailiffs go straight for Farage, Bown, Seymour & Zucherman as obviously sufficient for the funds and let them chase after the others for their cut!!

For what portion will The Treasurer be responsible as a foreign National who lives in Spain?

Well anyway here is the report from the NEC:

David Abbott’s ‘charges’ were sent at 7:30 pm on Sat 1st Nov so not a lot of
notice for the trial on Mon Nov 3rd at 1 pm. [Interestingly I
received my NEC copy before David who had only that day flown from Canada
for the NEC meeting – G. L-W.].

Neither David or I were able
to defend ourselves as the meeting had degenerated to an utter farce and both of
us we being subjected to tirades of abuse and I felt I was in danger of physical
assault.

Martin Haslam brought Buster Mottram who also wanted
to talk about donors to the party and also to act as his McKenzie
friend to reply to Fargage’s demand for Martin’s resignation as Deputy Treasurer
for the crime of talking to the press.

I challenged Farage on this
and he admitted that he, Farage, had set the whole thing up with the journalist
concerned to entrap Martin Haslam or as Farage put it to ‘test his
loyalty’.

I told Farage I found his act desplicable as did David
Abbott and we both left along with Martin Haslam, Buster Mottram. Why should we
be judged in a kangaroo court by such a man and his placemen and women? We have
done no wrong. Del Young left a few minutes after us feeling the same
way.

Farage is trying now to smear us as being BNP. Neither I,
David or Martin have ever been in the BNP or supported the BNP.

I
challenge Nuttall to produce with sources the evidence to back his statement
that I or David spoke in public against UKIP or its NEC

Martin
Haslam is one of the best and most honest men you could hope to meet and has
given around £15000 to UKIP that I know of.

I gather a tape
recording of the meeting exists so you should hopefully be able to hear for
yourself

I need scarcely add that Mottram’s expulsion from UKIP
gave him no hearing or right of defence as in the UKIP
constitution

Eric Edmond

Clearly based upon the sequence here, which bears out my earlier statement of Fact, it would seem that since 4 members of the NEC had left the NEC BEFORE the vote commenced – The NEC was ‘In Quorate’ to act as a kangaroo court and obviously Zucherman who had been speaking of the PLANNED outcome at HMS Belfast and Bannerman who has placed himself in litigation with an NEC member yet dishonestly drew up the trumped up charges and also is NOT a legal or legitimate member fit to hold office they also MUST in all conscience Recuse themselves.

Arguably Rachel Oxey should recuse herself as she lodged a dishonest complaint AND has published her legal opinion on these matters.

With certainty Lisa Duffy should be recused as she only gained her position on the NEC as did Bannerman by dishonesty and deceit.

There is absolutely no doubt the meeting was ‘Inquorate’ by ANY normal standards of Justice!It may dishonestly be claimed that a meeting can not be MADE inquorate by the departure of persons who were there at the commencement however as the liar Denny has put in writing this IS acceptable on EUkip’s NEC and the precedent was set when John Wittaker in a morally underhand way withdrew during a meeting to ensure his wishes carried by making the meeting inquorate at that time.

No challenge was heard from The Chairman (Nuttall – Farage’s puppet), The Party Secretary (The ridiculous Zucherman), The Deputy Leader (The farcical liar David Bannerman) or the Leader (why would Farage act when surrounded by his puppets?) at that time. Thus the precedent is irrefutable.

Thus I would contend that the proceedings of The EUkip NEC on Monday 3rd. November 2008 are null and void. Void and of no consequence: Let the minutes show with honesty that no decisions were reached at the NEC as it was unfit to vote.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#105* – EUkip Leadership Faces MORE PAGES Of Shame!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/11/2008

#105* – EUkip Leadership Faces MORE PAGES Of Shame!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

TUESDAY 4th-Nov-2008 ANOTHER DAY OF SHAME IN THE FINAL COLLAPSE OF EUkip IN DISGRACE

Hi,

In this instance I do feel that it was not appropriate to source these letters to the NEC from Del Young, Dr. Eric Edmond, Dr. David Abbott or Martin Hasslam as already dishonest and corrupt attempts founded on the testimony of proven liars, frauds and cheats including the unarguably corrupt and dishonest drunken womaniser Nigel Farage.

And the fraud and indisputably dishonest and corrupt David Bannerman, the foul mouthed corrupt liar Douglas Denny, Farage’s sad little puppet the Liverpool Scally NuttAll, the odious and utterly bouvine Oxley, the dishonest cheat Lisa Duffy and the restof the pond life in EUkip’s leadership NEC.

Therefore I used one of my contacts in the EU and ensured the veracity of the letters from a source in the UK.

EUkip under the present dishonest and crass leadership and NEC is finished help bury the body rapidly before the rotten stench pollutes the entire Patriotic movement and ends us dragging any more decent and staggeringly naive people into the arms of the revolting racist and anti Jewish BNP which has refused to repudiate its racist roots and its association with the disgusting American White Supremacist Movement funded the naiscent BNP’s origins in the National Front where the ritual murder of 4-5,000 mostly young men was the grounding that gained the cash that was the funding of the BNP today – without these 5,000 murders just because these young men were black – just as the funding of Lady Birdwood was predicated on her anti Jewish stance.

The BNP is a sordid and revolting organisation that refuses to repudiate their roots – knuckle dragging liars like Mark Croucher, liars like Denny, self seeking rascals like Zucherman, frauds like Bannerman, cheats like Lisa Duffy, idiots like Rachel Oxley and the weak and dishonest like Christopher Gill and others that have floated to the top of EUkip’s septic tank and their dishonest and corrupt assistants like Anthony Butcher, the liar Malcolm Wood, Stuart Agnew, Marta Andreassen, Gawain Towler and the indisputable bent retired copper Trevor Colman are beyond doubt little more than recruiting sergeants for the BNP in their dishonesty, leaving the lost adrift having betrayed them.

SHAME ON YOU ALL FOR YOUR SELF SERVING BETRAYAL OF THESE UNITED KINGDOMS & THE DECENT PEOPLE OF UKIP

Dear members of the NEC.

Out of courtesy I am sending you a copy of a letter sent to the Information Commissioner. I am also sending one to the Electoral Commission concerning your general behaviour which is bringing the whole of the anti-EU movement into disrepute – the failure of UKIP to abide by its own rules and constitution; a failure of UKIP to declare proper financial information; the failure of Nigel Farage to reply to genuine concerns including questions concerning allegations about money held on the Isle of Man, which may be true or may be false, and of course details of the way in which I was “ambushed” (the description of Piers Merchant – not me) during the internal UKIP election and UKIP’s failure to act on the recommendations of its own returning officer.

Most of you ought to be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves but of course once you start digging it takes integrity to stop and admit that you have been wrong.

Yours sincerely,

Robin Page

Dear Mr. Thomas,

I am writing to you in your capacity as Information Commissioner. I wish to make a formal complaint about the United Kingdom Independence Party – known by some as UKIP.

Enclosed are copies of requests I have made to UKIP under the Data Protection Act. Sadly UKIP failed to reply to my first request and also failed to comply with a second request to supply information about me held by UKIP. My cheque for ten pounds was returned and the suggestion was that a change of Chairman at UKIP has made my request invalid, which as you know is ridiculous.

Despite this refusal, documents have appeared on the internet clearly showing that UKIP holds much information concerning me, relevant to the Data Protection Act – some of it extremely damaging. In addition it is clear that there are agendas and minutes of meetings that have referred to me, which remain secret, and clearly I need to know what this information concerns and reveals. In addition I have been informed that members of UKIP’s National Executive Committee have also sent emails concerning me and clearly UKIP has a duty to reveal all this information under the terms of the Data Protection Act.

For your information because of my concern I am contacting the Electoral Commission about the behaviour of the higher echelons of UKIP. As a journalist, who writes for a number of national newspapers and magazines I shall also be writing about the extraordinary acts taking place within UKIP which in my view have more in common with the old Eastern European style of democracy – or even Zimbabwe’s style of government – than they do with what most people understand as Western democracy.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely,

Robin Page

To Members of the NEC

Here is a copy of my letter to the Chairman of the Electoral Commission.

Yours sincerely,

RP

Dear Mr. Younger,

I am writing to you with a number of serious complaints concerning the United Kingdom Independence Party. I write as a paid-up member of the party. I write as the person who finished third on its European List for the last European Elections in East Anglia. I am writing as the UKIP candidate for South Cambridgeshire at the last General Election. I am writing as somebody who has spoken at UKIP conferences and who has spoken, by invitation, at numerous UKIP events and branches. I am also writing to you as someone with no political ambition whatsoever apart from wanting to see honest politics and a properly functioning, credible political party whose aim is for Britain to regain its financial and political independence from the EU.

I am also writing to you as a journalist who contributes to various national newspapers and magazines, and also as someone who is committed to open and transparent democracy.

I am really writing to you by accident. Despite having a full programme of writing and farming, (I have written thirty books and have a small family farm). I was contacted by several people earlier in the year who urged me to stand for UKIP’s internal MEP selection process. This I did only to find myself suddenly disqualified from the process. Piers Merchant, UKIP’s own election referee concluded that I had been “ambushed” and his report shows a totally flawed process. Needless to say, it is a Report that has not been shown to me, but which has apparently been leaked onto the internet.

The National Executive Council of UKIP then ignored all his recommendations adding to the undemocratic nature of the process. In the elections UKIP’s hierarchy ignored its own rules and constitution to suit the placemen of the executive and the leader Nigel Farage. Incidentally – I was disqualified after following the procedures given to me by UKIP’s own paid officials – consequently “ambushed” is the only word that can adequately explain what happened.

From all over the country come examples of rules flouted. In my view it is an example of a political party stolen by its executive, from its grass roots. It has been astonishing to witness and it is a process that in my naivety I never thought could happen in Britain. To me the whole process has been more in tune with Eastern Europe before the fall of the Wall, or even Zimbabwe.

However there are other issues too. There appear to be holes in UKIP’s accounting. The leader of UKIP told me on one occasion how well UKIP’s call centres were doing and were raising money. There are several people who claim that there is no proper audit trail showing how much money was raised and where it went. In my view this needs to be investigated to establish whether or not UKIP’s finances are transparent.

It is said that the leader, Nigel Farage, has a Trust based on the Isle of Man. I do not know whether this is true or false. Mr. Farage will not reply to my questions concerning this.
It is alleged that Mr.Farage called an MEP of Asian origin a “wog”. It is said that this event was witnessed and filmed. I do not know if this allegation is true or false. If it is true then in my view Mr.Farage is not suitable to lead a political party in British politics.

To endeavour to obtain more information concerning the state of UKIP and the integrity of its officials and higher echelons I have made requests to UKIP under the Data Protection Act. UKIP has failed to comply with any aspect of these requests. I have now made a formal complaint to the Information Commissioner, but it does seem to me that the Electoral Commission too should take action against a political party that seems to believe that it is above the law.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely,

Robin Page

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

MAY I SUGGEST – since there is no political party of repute advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

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