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Will UKIP Support Its Councillors As Rutland Does Its Officers?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/07/2013

Will UKIP Support Its Councillors As Rutland Does Its Officers?
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Will UKIP Support Its Councillors As Rutland Does Its Officers?! Either way UKIP Councillors would seem to be at huge risk from unprofessional behaviour and have put those they represent at risk!

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sue Rutland’s decision allows officers to sue UKIP Councillors
for defamation in their own name
at the council’s expense

UKIP Councillors – Cllr Richard Gale, Cllr David Richardson and Cllr Nick Wainwright – have allegedly claimed that Rutland Council Officers hvae committed various criminal actions included suggestions of fraud and corruption, suspicious planning appeals and the misuse of million pounds of grant funding.

Personally I would have been far more inclined to back the UKIP Councillors had they made the far more credible claims seeking investigation into the apparent and well documented crimes committed within UKIP which is beset with allegations of fraud, and other criminal activities which destroys the credibility of UKIP amongst any informed group.

That UKIP chooses to speak out against Council Officers without doing anything about the crimes of UKIP staff & leading lights and in fact actively encourages those found guilty of criminal actions including individuals like Den Dover, Derek Clark, Neil Hamilton and their ilk who have been found guilty of misuse of public funds or office for gain!

That UKIP harbours liars, cheats, thieves and criminals yet seeks to defame Council Officers would seem to sperak volumes of the utter incompetence of UKIP to hold ANY public Office!

Council agrees to back officers in defamation action against three Ukip members – case could cost £150,000

The special meeting of Rutland County Council on Monday, July 29 The special meeting of Rutland County Council on Monday, July 29

A council has agreed to cover the legal costs of officers who may want to sue three councillors for defamation.

At a special meeting last night (Monday) Rutland County Council voted to grant an indemnity to support the council’s chief executive and officers to take legal action in their own name for defamation against Coun Richard Gale, Coun Dave Richardson and Coun Nick Wainwright, of the Rutland Group of the United Kingdom Independence Party.

The council estimates the cost of any case could be about £150,000. If any officer proceeds with legal action against the group and wins the case, any costs incurred by the council would be recovered. Damages would be awarded to the officer taking the action.

The council was considering suing the members itself earlier this year however the Minister of Justice later said authorities could not sue for defamation.

According to a monitoring officer’s report, which was discussed at the meeting on Monday, the allegations made by the three councillors on their website 4Rutland were “seriously defamatory of officers”. The allegations have now been removed from the website.

Rutland County Council leader Roger Begy (Con) told the meeting the accusations were damaging and no evidence had been offered.

He said: “We’ve got to protect our officers. They are doing a first class job and it is unfair that their future employment is at risk because of these allegations.”

He added: “We will do our best to make sure expenditure is controlled and limited but it is our duty to protect our staff.”

The recommendation by the monitoring officer to support officers wishing to take legal action was approved by 16 councillors at the meeting. Coun Alan Walters (Ind) voted against as he was concered about the cost and Coun Gene Plews (Ind) abstained.

Coun Wainwright did not attend the meeting and Coun Gale and Coun Richardson left the meeting shortly after it started and before the debate began.

In January, councillors voted to support officers wishing to take legal action in their own name for harassment by the same three councillors when they were members of the now defunct Rutland Anti-Corruption Group. The council says the legal bill for that case is £42,000 so far.

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UKIP Seemingly Specialising in Thieves, Cheats, Liars & Bigots!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/07/2013

UKIP Seemingly Specialising in Thieves, Cheats, Liars & Bigots!
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UKIP Seemingly Specialising in Thieves, Cheats, Liars & Bigots! The list is embarrassingly long and previous all too notable!!

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many readers will have noted my TWITTER of yesterday!

TWITTER N.I.Bs.

Seems Den Dover the crook repaid £446K falsely claimed expenses now on UKIP MEP list in SE! With Hamilton, Andreasen frauds! UKIP pick them!

The weather was much too nice yesterday to fossik around and see what others have made of it but this morning the showers provide ample search time ;-(I note that

had TWEETED on the subject:

So disgraced former Tory MEP, Den Dover (), is standing to become a UKIP MEP alongside . Shocked? Nope.

as had others!& Milton had blogged on the subject:

Tory MEP Expenses Cheat Switches to UKIP

Milton July 28, 2013 2

Den Dover is a former Tory MEP who was forced to pay back hundreds of thousands of pounds in expenses. Mr Dover’s expulsion was personally ordered by David Cameron and his offences were originally reported by a jubilant UKIP.

Imagine Milton’s surprise when a ‘Densmore Dover’ appeared on the UKIP South East speaking list and took part in the South East UKIP MEP hustings.

 

Nigel Farage was caught boasting about his large expenses bill, while UKIP MEP Tom Wise was jailed for expenses fraud.

Other notable disgraced Tories who are now running for UKIP include Neil Hamilton, who was reported to have been heavily implicated in the cash for questions scandal.

When UKIP urged Tories to ‘come home’ Milton didn’t think they meant it quite like this…

It seem UKIP with its present lack of competent, ethical or credible leadership, strategy, tactics or ‘Exit & Survival Plan’ is all too willing to show just how amoral and irresponsible the bulk of their members are – not just by setting up a thoroughly dishonest and corrupt selection process that puts control in the hands of the self serving clique surrounding their ONLY performer of any note – Nigel Farage but by drawing up a list of cheats and crooks as candidates:

Most will by now be aware that Neil Hamilton the disgraced Tory MP is already in situ:

A liar and a cheat

Neil Hamilton, the disgraced former minister, yesterday walked away in humiliation from a £10 million libel suit against the Guardian over the “cash for questions” scandal hours before the case was due to start today.

The former trade minister abandoned the case and agreed to pay some of the Guardian’s costs after a bitter two-year battle. He had recruited 421 Conservative MPs and peers, including Lady Thatcher, Lord Archer and cabinet members to change a 300-year-old law, which had prevented him, as an MP, bringing his action.

Ian Greer, the parliamentary lobbyist, also dropped his claim, part of the same libel suit, just minutes before a legal deadline to do so. He, too, agreed to pay some of the paper’s costs.

The Guardian stated on October 20, 1994, that Mr Hamilton had received thousands of pounds for asking parliamentary questions for Mohamed Al Fayed’s Harrods group. Mr Greer, who had been retained by Mr Al Fayed, was identified as the middleman.

Another MP, Tim Smith, resigned his post as a Northern Ireland minister after he was accused in the same article of taking undeclared cash. He immediately admitted the Guardian story was true. Mr Hamilton, MP for Tatton, had instead tried to tough it out before resigning under pressure from Mr Major.

The settlement, on the eve of what was labelled the libel trial of the century, came after a dramatic weekend of legal developments. Those began when the government disclosed crucial documents to the Guardian. The papers led to Mr Greer and Mr Hamilton falling out, and a conflict of interest developing. Mr Greer’s accounts were also in the newspaper’s possession.

The Guardian also served on the men’s lawyers three statements from employees of Mr Al Fayed. They said Mr Hamilton and Mr Greer regularly called for envelopes stuffed with £50 notes in return for parliamentary lobbying.

Alan Rusbridger, editor of the Guardian, said: “The decision by Neil Hamilton and Ian Greer must be one of the most astonishing legal cave-ins in the history of the law of libel.”

He called for the trial papers to be examined by John Major, Sir Gordon Downey, the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, and the Inland Revenue.

Although hampered by the law on what evidence it can publish, the Guardian today reveals the extent of Mr Hamilton’s covert links with Mr Greer. It also details the network of MPs linked to Mr Greer, including Mr Smith, Sir Michael Grylls, chairman of the backbench trade and industry committee, Sir Peter Hordern, MP for Horsham, and Sir Andrew Bowden, MP for Brighton Kemptown.

It was because the Guardian had subpoenaed Mr Major and Michael Heseltine to give evidence in the case that the government handed over key documents to the newspaper’s lawyers, Geoffrey Robertson, QC, and Geraldine Proudler. It would have been the first time this century a serving prime minister had appeared in the libel courts.

The trial would have re-opened the vexed question of parliamentary sleaze during the Tory party conference, and only a year after the government had made strenuous efforts to bury the issue. It implemented the Nolan Committee report and appointed a new Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards to handle complaints about MPs.

Of the embarrassing climb-down by both men, Mr Rusbridger said: “Both Hamilton and Greer knew that the evidence the Guardian had obtained would have blown their action out of the water and revealed a pattern of parliamentary sleaze more far reaching than anyone had ever imagined.

“The Guardian has never doubted the truth of its original story. We would have produced damning evidence of Mr Hamilton and Mr Greer’s lack of integrity if the case had proceeded. No doubt that is why they dropped the action.

“The Greer accounts and the government documents tell an outrageous story of corruption which the public should know but which we are prevented, for legal reasons, from publishing.”

Mr Hamilton said he was ‘devastated’ at having to withdraw. He claimed he was innocent, but because of the conflict of interest with Mr Greer, each had to instruct new solicitors and counsel.

“The consequence of this is that the trial would have had to have been postponed to enable new sets of lawyers to go through the huge volume of papers and prepare the case afresh at enormously increased cost.”

His costs were already £150,000, and he did not have the cash to continue.

Mr Greer said: “I would want to continue on a matter of principle, but I have had to take a sensible commercial decision and I am happy a compromise has been reached.”

A spokesman for Mr Al Fayed said: “He was looking forward to telling the court of his experience of dealing with a number of Conservative MPs who describe themselves as “honourable members”. He will be sending his papers on the matter to Sir Gordon Downey.”

Downing Street last night insisted that the end of the libel action was purely a “matter between Mr Hamilton and the Guardian”.

Damning evidence

Sometimes he (Mr Greer) would ask me bluntly whether Mr Al Fayed had his money ready.
Mr Hamilton was as persistent as Mr Greer, if not more so, in asking for his envelope.

• Mohamed Al Fayed’s ex-personal assistant

I remember on several occasions that prior to a meeting with Mr Hamilton, Mr Al Fayed would make a remark… that he was coming to collect his money and would prepare an envelope for him with a bundle of £2,500 (in) notes in my presence.

• Mr Al Fayed’s secretary

On at least two occasions when I was sitting at the front desk, an envelope was brought down to me from Mr Al Fayed’s office and I was informed that Mr Hamilton would be stopping by to collect the envelope.

• Mr Al Fayed’s security man.

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Why would UKIP possibly wish to add to their long list of self serving liars, abusers, drunks and cheats like Tom Wise, Stuart Agnew, Clive Page, Annabelle Fuller, David Bannerman, Derek Clark, Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, Andrew Smith, Graham Booth, Douglas Denny, Marta Andreasen, Godfrey Bloom etc. even their showman supreme Nigel Farage has fallen foul of the law & with Jeffrey Titford was ordered to repay money falsely claimed, not to mention a long string of his defunct companies and voluntary agreements regarding debts!

Just why would anyone in their right mind wish to add to the pond life at the help of UKIP with such an odious and corrupt specimen as Den Dover – is it just that UKIP are willing to provide a refuge for dishonest Tories thrown out of the party, when they make such a dishonest song and dance (that fools no one) about banning ex members of other parties!

The Tories were well rid of Neil Hamilton & Den Dover – what next for UKIP Jeffrey Archer and a lifetime membership for Stuart Hall?

Already UKIP is embroiled in various issues of sexual abuse, including Court Judgements against them! We even note the allegations about UKIP’s sometime PR guru Max Clifford and the much boasted of perversions of Gawain Towler such that one wonders just how safe anyone would be in association with some of UKIP’s leading lights, in so far as it has any!

Just why would ANY organisation want Den Dover or Neil Hamilton and I note in the scrabble for ‘celebs’ few have heard of Jon Gaunt is doing all he can to disrupt the Werst Midlands and Delingpole who is tipped for the East Midlands pitched up at the West Midlands hustings!

Based on UKIP’s track record it must be a relief to lesser members that Jimmy Saville is dead or it is all too likely he would be added to the UKIP MEP list!

Little wonder that their party funder, the professional gambler Stuart Wheeler, is betting against UKIP but has taken political bets due to the long odds that UKIP will get maybe 2 MPs at the next election!

Why he thinks UKIP will get anyone elected in a General Election is clearly a gamble deserving long odds as on form to date they have never been anywhere near getting anyone elected in a General Election and tyheir 147 elected Councillors is far from notable out of 1,700+ UKIP candidates who stood and with not a single elected Mayor nor Police el supremo they seem only of note to the gullible andf protest voters!

Lets face it even Stuart Wheeler knew UKIP were untrustworthy and was not prepared to let them have access to any of his money unless he was in total control as treasurer, an office he fills in his own interest NOT the interest of the party or its members!

To QUOTE A Circular being widely distributed in UKIP circles:
Letter Begins:

This missive is primarily intended for UKIP members living in the SE of England, though regions still to hold their own selection meetings would be well advised to heed what is written below.

We had all rather hoped that with the re-organisation of the way in which Ukip is run and its business conducted, the selection of candidates for the Euro Elections next year would be above board.


In my humble opinion the process of selecting candidates to represent UKIP should be rather like Julius Ceaser’s wife:
‘not only should she be above board but she should be seen to be above board.’

Who, therefore, is selecting candidates here in the South East?  The answer may surprise you, and you may reach the conclusion that the intended format for your meeting will leave an unpleasant taste in your mouths.  You see, at each meeting (which we are told is to be more of a public speaking competition rather than a proper hustings) there are to be three votes to oversee each of the 21 candidates.  The casting of one of these votes will be the responsibility of 20 (only) of the audience of SE Members at this Saturday’s conference in Woking, selected at random – hopefully.

[The total votes given for each candidate by the ’20’ will be counted at the end of the day and averaged out solely by the Chairman, Roger Bird.]

  • Will this process be transparent? Probably not based upon past experience.
  • Will candidates be permitted to oversee the count? If not, why not?

The responsibility for the casting of the remaining two thirds of the votes – ie two votes – will be in the hands of just two assessors: Mr John Moran and Mr Harry Aldridge.

To state that Mr Moran is an old chum of Farage is understating the case. Mr Moran has been a side-kick of Mr Farage in almost every tactic, trick, scheme, intrigue and machination since Mr Farage began to build his career with Ukip. He was involved in the Ashford Call Centre, where nearly £1m disappeared into a black hole and where an audit was refused (see additional info lower down this page).


The choice of Mr Moran for the panel is akin to asking a junior appointee of Stalin’s Central Committee to appraise the performance of his boss, Joseph Stalin, and the latter’s potential rivals with total impartiality.


Next there is, Harry Aldridge, a twenty something youngster with ambitions to make a career within Ukip. How impartial is the lad?  What discussions has he held with his boss?  What discussions has Harry held with Mr Moran?  Will he deny that he’s already been promised 2nd place on the SE candidate list?  If so then the whole selection process is nothing but a deceitful scam, a cruel charade perpetrated open the membership!  The purported purpose of the meeting is to produce a short-list on which the membership can vote, but given the machinations taking place behind the scenes can this possibly be correct.?


Almost inevitably, members are going to be forced to the conclusion that it will be Mr Farage’s favourites who will appear on the final list whilst those he does not favour will be dropped well before the membership has its say.  Indeed, I hope that this flawed process outlined above will bring back memories of the gerrymandering that occurred in 2004 and 2009, the saga relating to Marta Andreassen (now a Tory MEP) (another of Mr Farage’s dreadful judgements), John West and many others. A saga that involved dishonesty and underhand activity which by-passed the membership. Mr Farage will be present, so ensure that you voice your concern to him directly that it is going to be exactly the same this time around. Nothing seems to have changed, and, it seems, the membership is yet again going to be treated with contempt. 


On Saturday, Roger Bird, Steve Crowther, and their colleagues, really must be required to explain to the members present why the selection panel is comprised as it is, and equally importantly, who chose it.  Ask them why the members are not to be permitted total oversight instead of a mere 33% of the votes (1 vote of 3)?   Emphasise to them that with these two ‘gentlemen’, Aldridge and Moran, being able to cast two thirds of the votes, how can anyone truly believe that any candidate, other than those preferred by Mr Farage, will be successful.  Let them explain what it is that Messrs Moran and Aldridge know that the membership does not? Is Ukip not a democratic party? 


Members attending the event on Saturday must really keep their wits about them.  For as things stand it seems the day’s activity has every likelihood of producing the type of ‘fix’ that would make dictators on a neighbouring Continent rather pleased.


Written with deep concern


Alistair

PS: Additional background information:


Roger Bird
Roger is Chairman of UKIP’s South East region. An alumni of the Bow Group, he served as Treasurer 1999-2000 and wrote two research papers for the group in the 1990s. He is a defector to UKIP from the Conservative Party, having served as a Conservative Councillor in Wandsworth 1998-2006.

http://www.bowgroup.org/events/deal-or-no-deal-what-possibility-toryukip-electoral-pact


E-mail outlining the format for this Saturday’s meeting

Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:41:51 +0100

From:
bird.roger@rocketmail.com
Subject: UKIP Public Speaking – 27 July in Woking

To:
bird.roger@rocketmail.com CC: John Moran <jdmassociates@talktalk.net>; Harry Aldridge <aldridge.harry@gmail.com>; Steve Crowther <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>

Dear All, I am writing because I have been asked, as UKIP regional Chairman for the South East, to chair the public speaking day on Saturday. I am not standing as a candidate in this election. I believe that the Party Chairman has already been in contact with you regarding the format of the event, but it might be best if I make certain points clear, to avoid confusion: – This is a public speaking contest, not a hustings as such. This is inevitable given that we will have 21 would-be candidates speaking – In consequence, we should remember that there will be more than one winner. We are helping to produce a shortlist of SE candidates on which the membership can vote. I am sure that everyone will approach the event in a harmonious and constructive spirit. – Candidates will be allowed to address the meeting for five minutes. The assessors (John Moran and Harry Aldridge) will then each ask one question from a list. The list of questions which assessors use is the same at all the public speaking events around the country. There will then be two questions asked by members of the audience. It is essential that answers are short (no more than one minute) or the event will over-run substantially. – Twenty members of the audience, selected at random, will be invited to assist in the scoring. The average of the audience marks will be calculated by me at the end of the day. The audience’s averaged vote will then count as one vote, while John Moran and Harry Aldridge also each will have one vote in the deliberations. – The audience will consist only of UKIP members, who may be asked to produce their membership card at the door. We will have a membership list with us, just in case. – Candidates will not be permitted to listen to each others’ performances. We will therefore ask candidates to wait together in a separate room before being conducted into the hall. – Candidates’ spouses, partners and families can attend the event in the audience only if they are paid-up UKIP members. – To avoid keeping you all waiting around unnecessarily, we are inviting candidates to come at particular times, in batches (see list below). The order shown is random, as provided by the Party Chairman, although in a small number of cases where candidates have had unavoidable business or public service commitments that day we have tried to accommodate them early or late on. – There may be some candidates for the SE who have attended public speaking contests in other regions, for convenience. If there are names missing from the list below, you may find that a candidate has been assessed elsewhere, therefore. – Candidates are reminded of the advice already given by the Party Chairman not to leaflet the event with flyers or similar material in support of their candidacies. – Finally, let me thank you for giving up your valuable time on a Saturday to come to this event. It is an essential part of UKIP’s quest to find the best candidates and to offer the membership the widest possible choice and so I would like to thank you on behalf of the membership for helping to bring this plan to fruition.


The timings for candidates are: 1st batch (0945-1045) Nigel Farage Alan Stevens Richard Palmer Janice Atkinson Toby Pilling Alexandra Swann 2nd batch (1045-1145) Andrew Moncrieff Tony Smith Tim Cross Ray Finch Piers Wauchope Nigel Jones Lunch (1145-1215) 3rd batch (1215-1315) Patricia Culligan Ian McKie Barry Cooper Densmore Dover Laurence Hodge 4th batch (1315-1415) Mark Cribb Donna Edmunds Steve Harris Ralph Atkinson I hope you all find the event stimulating and I wish you well with it. My mobile phone number is 07786 104 198, should you need to get in touch. Best regards, Roger


Concerns over Mr Moran


UKIP Surrey produces a county newspaper, UKIP Surrey News, which asks for donations to be sent to John Moran at a PO Box in Ashtead. None of these county branches – West or East Sussex, Berkshire or Surrey – appears on the Electoral Commission’s list of UKIP accounting units, ie, where does the money actually go?  We simply don’t know!


Ashford
It was reported in the Sunday Telegraph, dated 12th February 2007, that outrage over the Ashford Call Centre has been blamed for the resignation of six senior UKIP officials over the previous 18 months. In the same article, Farage is reported to have confessed that a London based UKIP call centre had lost between £5,000 and £6,000 every month and this was the reason he was keen for a ‘professionally run call centre’ to be set up under John Moran in Ashford.


Extract from letter written by John de Roeck (he was National Treasurer at the time)

“We must consider if Central Office should be burdened with liabilities of the Ashford telesales department unless it is also receiving the profits. If John Moran and Nigel Farage continue to take responsibility for the operation and remain the signatories to the bank account for Ashford telesales, it is important that the Party receives a written agreement from them, in which they agree to indemnify the Party from any losses, consequential losses or other liabilities incurred by the Ashford operation, or give a similar written undertaking acceptable to the NEC. A detail to consider is whether the operation should be converted into a limited company.”

“Accounts from the Ashford telesales operation should also be prepared for the NEC in future on a monthly basis so that we can establish the effectiveness of the operation. As the operation is using data collected nationally from UKIP, we have a duty on the NEC to receive reports and in turn report to membership. This is in addition to the Party Treasurer responsibility of reporting to the Electoral Commission.
In the September NEC meeting Nigel Farage agreed to supply accounts although none as yet have been produced.


Kind regards,

John de Roeck

Party Treasurer


Harry Aldridge

“Nigel Farage is seeking to change UKIP’s Constitution in order to allow the NEC – controlled by him – final say who gets on the MEP lists.”


“Harry Aldridge – a is known to be a leading sycophant of MrFarage – rumoured to have been offered second place in the South East.  It will come as no surprise to learn that Aldridge is one of the most vocal in support of the new constitution!”

http://juniusonukip.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/civil-in-ukip-over-nigel-farages.html

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UKIP’s Incompetence In Sex Attack Undermines The Party

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/07/2013

UKIP’s Incompetence In Sex Attack Undermines The Party
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UKIP’s Incompetence In Sex Attack Undermines The Party showing just how unfit for responsible office this misogynistic, racist self serving rudderless and largely leaderless group of libertine, amoral and louche ‘political’ aspirants are!!

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the allegations of sexual abuse, which have been so irresponsibly and incompetentently handled by Michael Greaves, Lisa Duffy, Gawain Towler and others in UKIP, in their official capacities leaves UKIP shown to be incompetent to deal with the simplest of issues.

This matter which has been reported by this blog at CLICK HERE & also HERE still leaves SH & SW’s reputations in the gutter as they have clearly felt they would be unwise to report the allegations against them for Police investigation, giving the distinct impression that although they may not be guilty of rape, as first reported do seem all too likely to have been responsible for a cowardly and shameful attack on a young female UKIP supporter the worse for drink and as she claims a drugged  drink!

Even Nigel Farage was yet again embroilled in this sex sxandal as Kirsten Farage has made clear, having made no effort to ensure this young UKIP activists inappropriate behaviour was not competently handled!

Now it is clear that a third party complaint to the Police of which we were aware, will lead to investigation by rather more competent and responsible hands than the bufoons in UKIP’s leadership, a leadership with previous form before the courts for abuse of women! Though we gather no further action was taken against SW over past allegations!

Police due to investigate claims that woman was assaulted at Ukip conference

A Conservative MP is writing to police about allegations that a female Ukip supporter had her drink spiked, her dress ripped and was photographed.

Conservative MP Julian Smith is writing to West Midlands Police about a Ukip supporter's claim she had her drink spiked.

Conservative MP Julian Smith is writing to West Midlands Police about a Ukip supporter’s claim she had her drink spiked. Photo: YouTube

Police are expected to investigate allegations that a female supporter of the United Kingdom Independence Party was assaulted by two activists at its annual conference.

Julian Smith, the Conservative MP for Skipton and Ripon, is writing to West Midlands Police, asking them to look into the claims that the woman had her drink spiked, her dress ripped and was photographed.

“He feels that the reports are cause for concern and merit police investigation,” said a spokesman for Mr Smith.

The alleged victim’s claims were investigated internally by a Ukip official, who concluded that there was no reason to call in the police.

The Ukip inquiry was closed at the end of last year after Michael Greaves, the party’s general secretary, reported to its leader, Nigel Farage, that the woman’s story was inconsistent and that if any offence had been committed it was a minor one.

However, the allegations did not come to light until details leaked out and were reported by The Sunday Telegraph three weeks ago.

A spokesman for West Midlands Police said it would respond to the letter when it arrived.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

Now will The West Midlands Police step up to the plate and ensure the young woman and those she alleges sexually abused her (whether rape or sexual exploitation) receive justice & set UKIP an example to follow – though I hold out little hope in the light of their own behaviour in the prosecution of John Ison and others leading to ‘Justice delayed is Justice denied’ in relation to the malicious and seemingly self serving efforts of UKIP against Nikki Sinclaire and their leaders lies about her.

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The Lies & Odious Behaviour of Derek Clark & UKIP Members

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having been in contact with Tony Ellwood and others involved at the time I can confirm that his report of the despicable behaviour of UKIP and its representatives and of the proven liars Derek Clark
Derek Clark, MEP

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are largely correct and as Tony Ellwood has published today, under the name ‘Tiquipaya’:

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Those who are quick to offer scorn and ridicule on others,


are often slow to appreciate their equal right to justice and a fair


hearing. Can I use that as the basis for my explanation?


I had two encounters with the Police, both of which were very


harmful to me, and both were the result of the endeavours of


staff employed by Derek Clark MEP. On the first occasion the


Police arrived at my pied-a-terre, an address which I did not use


for purposes of mail and electoral registration, but only casual


occupation for my convenience of employment. It was about 8,am


and some eight Police arrived with a battering ram. I told them that


force was not necessary, for I had done nothing wrong and would co-operate


wholly with them. I was taken to a local Police station and held for about


10-12 hours while they searched my address and removed whatever they chose.


At the end of that time I was not charged, or cautioned or advised to live a more


innocent life. They had received a call to Crime-Stoppers which was wholly devoid


of truth. That was a fearful and humiliating experience, and one from which I have not


wholly recovered. A few days previously one of Mr Clark’s staff warned me to expect


a visit from the Police, and that proved to be the case. Following the event, I telephoned


Mr Clark, and he sneeringly said that it could have been UKIP.


That was to be just the first interest that the Police were to take in me. A report was


passed to the Police that I was transferring capital from the bank account of an elderly


relative and depositing it into another. The Police visited that elderly relatives care home,


and I was able to fully explain the situation. Acting with the power of attorney, I was not


only entitled to make those transfers, but was required to do so. That was to ensure my


relative had security of residence. I was soon to holiday in Bolivia, and I was anxious to


clear doubts that the Police may have had. They told me that they were fully satisfied,


as the home confirmed the financial arrangement which involved me. Whilst in Bolivia,


contacts with the Police informed me that all their enquiries had ceased. It later transpired


that the Police informant had been an employee of Mr Clark, and that name remains on the


investigation file.


Why should that have happened to me? I had been a faithful member and paid employee of


UKIP for some 15 years. The late Geoffrey Kingscott, UKIP General Secretary, had assigned to


me that task of analysing the national account. I reported to him that concerns were justified


and more investigations were needed. I was to encounter immediate difficulties, which finally


resulted in my employment being terminated. If Mr Clark feels that he is being harshly


treated, he is welcome to provide his version of events to the Police or HMRC.


Why should I have to have these falsehood resurrected on the BDF in recent times? They were false


at the time, and that remains the position.Without a blemish on my good name, I am not prepared


to be harmed further by those postings which were published on the BDF. I have written both privately


and through an ‘open letter’ to Mr Butcher. All has been ignored. May I again ask that he provides those


postngs from Mr Pain and Mr Ransome? He can do it privately to me, or through any Police or statutory


agency. This is not a game, but a serious matter which he appears prepared to ignore.

We then hear from too particularly odious fools ‘Independent UKIP’ and ‘FKEU’ both too ashamed of their sneering publishings and distortions to put their names to their cowardly and ill informed opinions.

Ian Gillman would seem to have the measure of them:

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FKEU : You are an utter fool. Utterly pointless. You were not, and
have never been part of matters. You do however, unfortunately; have a
computer.


The NEC are ” jointly and severally liable “.


I was the only member of that NEC to actually attempt to do something. No person supported me.


I was not prepared to be arrogantly and violently threatened with a
requirement for silence ( in contempt of court ) whilst being” jointly
and severally liable ” for what was explained, and other matters that I
knew were going on. Tom Wise MEP impacts here.


Subsequent to me, Messers Edmund, Abbot and Young found themselves challenged in a similar manner.


It is interesting to recall the circumstances around events at the NEC
with Dr Eric Edmund, and Mr Derek Clark MEP the former national
secretary.


Mr Clark does enjoy particularly interesting summer holidays.


Following his return from this years travels we must hope that he feels
sufficiently relaxed to unwind all of his knowledge about matters
affecting us, and our greater families.

The unpleasant sneering manner of cowards like ‘Independent UKIP’, ‘FKEU’, Mick McGough’, and earlier imbecilic postings by the likes of Douglas Denny, Skeptyk, Mark Croucher or the lies of UKIP Chairmen, Derek Clark, Tom Wise and the like do such regular and major harm to UKIP and they seem too stupid to realise! As ‘Mike’ points out, in his own inimitable way:

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The Drawback of UKIP P.R. Presenting Farage as a Drunk!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/07/2013

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further to the allegations of rape made by a young activist who is currently having her father turn away the media to prevent justice being done which we covered at CLICK HERE the media is making more of the story than they otherwise might with a major Sunday paper featuring it as a front page splash:

 

To view the original CLICK HERE

On page 4 the story with UKIP seemingly seeking to defame and demean the young woman was almost all provided under the guiding light of a prostitute who serviced politicians of yesteryear Ms. Mandy Rice-Davis who so appositely said ‘Well they would say that wouldn’t they’ as in this instance salaried staff members of UKIP and its leaders stepped up to the plate to belittle the young activist they should mosty cleartly have been supporting!

This is NOT the story of some rape orchestrated, or so it seemed, as the Telegraph first claimed – nor even a sexual assault and sexual and physical abuse on behalf of UKIP as the story has now unfolded – The be all and end all of this story is of the crass incompetence and irresponsibility of UKIP’s leadership team in dealing with the matter.

Imagine placing an elderly male employee in the position of investigating the matter, a job for which he clearly has no qualification or at least none quoted or in his CV, a staffer who failed to interview the alleged victim but did interview other salarid staff and the alleged perpetrator of the offence!

This just reads like the most crass and ineptly amateur attempt at ‘whitewash’ by a self serving clique of irresponsible fools – again and again we see the style of UKIP under its present claque of fools given ANY responsibility in governance, when the image they SEEK to potray for their leader is that of a stumble bum drunk constantly with a drink in hand and a fag near by!

Read the article for yourself and put yourself in the shoes of the father of this foolish young woman – of course he rebutts the press and little wonder this thus leads to feeding the story!

See:

‘Spiked drink’ and the night Ukip’s party turned sour

The party faithful at Ukip’s gala dinner were in buoyant mood. Hours earlier, Nigel Farage had delivered a galvanising leader’s speech at the party’s 2012 conference.

The party faithful at Ukip’s gala dinner were in buoyant mood Photo: Reuters

By Robert Mendick, Chief reporter

9:02PM BST 20 Jul 2013

The dinner afterwards at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Birmingham offered the leadership and rank and file the opportunity to have a drink, relax and mingle.

The meal was a largely jolly affair, accompanied as it was by a fundraising auction that – this being Ukip – included such desirable items as tea bags in a fancy box and a woven silk portrait of the Queen.

“This was a gathering that featured little of the bombast and none of the slickness of the larger parties’ shindigs,” reported one commentator at the time.

The Crowne Plaza hotel in Birmingham (Alamy)

Yet 10 months on, the repercussions of that night’s events are still being felt.

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A female activist has claimed that, amid the frivolity of the evening, she had been subjected to a “brutal assault” by a senior figure in Young Independence, Ukip’s youth wing. She said her drink had been spiked and her dress “ripped down”. She had been spat on, called a “whore”, then photographed in a state of undress to ensure her silence.

The claims finally became public two weeks ago when The Telegraph’s Mandrake column reported some of the details, leaving Ukip open to possible criticism of effectively covering up a crime by not calling in the police.

Last week, Ukip responded by passing to this newspaper a dossier detailing the claims and counter-claims for what happened that night and in the weeks and months following.

What is not contested is that the alleged incident followed the gala dinner on Friday Sept 21, presided over by Mr Farage and the party’s chairman, Steve Crowther. The alleged victim had been placed at a prominent table by Lisa Duffy, Ukip’s party director.

Lisa Duffy

The events that followed are murkier and disputed. At the heart of the case is the woman’s claim – made 12 days after the conference ended – that she had been subjected to a violent assault after her drink had been spiked.

She made the allegations in a number of emails to Miss Duffy and, as a result, the party opened an internal investigation conducted by Michael Greaves, one of its most senior officials. Mr Greaves is Ukip’s general secretary, but also a lawyer with experience at the International Criminal Court.

Last week he released to The Sunday Telegraph a report he had compiled on the case, based on the alleged victim’s emails, an interview with one of the alleged attackers and eyewitness accounts. He did not interview the woman either face-to-face or by telephone.

Mr Greaves has also written a separate, longer account for Mr Farage and Ukip officials.

Steve Crowther

In the version handed to this newspaper, he concluded that the “matter had no legs whatsoever”. After interviewing or taking statements from, among others, Mr Farage’s wife, Kirsten, Mr Greaves felt that the alleged victim’s story contained contradictions that did not stand up to wider scrutiny.

He said that she had been drinking so heavily “she must have been close to causing herself ill-health” and that the day after the attack she “is seen to be in perfectly good nick”, casting doubt on her memory of events and her claim to have been traumatised.

Mr Greaves’s report outlines events from the beginning of the evening of the gala dinner. By then, according to the Ukip account, the alleged victim had already caused a stir.

Mrs Farage had witnessed the woman “coming on strongly” to her husband. The woman, who according to witnesses was “very drunk”, is alleged to have invited Mr Farage back to her room before she was escorted from the party leader’s presence. Mr Farage had “politely declined” her offer.

With dinner over, many of the activists went on to a party hosted by Paul Staines, better known as Guido Fawkes, the political blogger. The woman went too.

Michael Greaves

Mr Greaves wrote in his report: “C [the alleged victim] was again seen by KF [Kirsten Farage] who saw that she was still very very drunk. KF indicates that she continued to drink prodigiously, perhaps 10 further glasses of wine.”

He added: “It is after this period of alcohol consumption that C claims that she was assaulted by having her dress ripped, that she was spat upon and was photographed. One of those involved with her called her a whore.”

The next day, according to the Ukip account, the woman appeared to have made a remarkable recovery. Mrs Farage and Miss Duffy both gave evidence that she was “chatting, laughing and smoking” outside the conference venue and did not look “particularly traumatised”.

Four days later, on Wednesday Sept 26, the woman wrote to Miss Duffy thanking her for seating her at the table, saying: “I am really impressed with the direction that Ukip is taking.”

Eight days on, her tone had changed. In a second email to Miss Duffy, she laid out what she then recalled had happened to her.

“Two of your Young Independence members physically assaulted me quite brutally outside the Crowne Plaza in Birmingham on the gala night,” she wrote.

“I also realise that one of my drinks was spiked and the effects of this lasted two days, including loss of vision which was terrifying and loss of memory which unfortunately for me returned this week. I’ve been really traumatised by this and am not wishing to take things further due to threats being made against me.”

Two days later on Oct 6, the woman wrote again: “I’m still very traumatised… One young guy took me outside, ripped down my dress while another took photographs, spat on me and called me a whore. All I remember is someone saying it was set up.”

She complained of feeling “numb to everything around me” as a result of the spiked drink, and suffered from heavy nosebleeds.

She added: “One young man needs slinging out of the party and reporting to the police. I haven’t done the latter since I didn’t want a scandal for everyone who works so hard in Ukip or a scandal for my family.”

On Oct 18, she wrote again to Miss Duffy: “I am afraid that what I have been through is a very serious matter and I will need to get the police involved. I’m currently seeing a solicitor about the actions of [X] and two others who were also involved in what is an assault.”

It was at this point that Ukip’s leadership, with the knowledge of Mr Farage, asked Mr Greaves to investigate.

“It is not at any stage in this matter for Ukip to report matters to the police,” wrote Mr Greaves in his analysis for The Telegraph.

He drove from Brussels to the UK to interview the alleged attacker – referred to throughout the dossier as X to protect his identity. During the interview, X denied the attack and also gave an alibi.

Mr Greaves concluded after the interview that X was “on the balance of probabilities” telling the truth.

He wrote: “Apart from what I believe to be an untruth about his taking medication, which may be explicable on the basis that someone wanting advancement in Ukip might well decide to conceal a medical condition which seriously affects mood and temperament, the writer [Mr Greaves] had no basis whatsoever to conclude anything other than that X was telling the truth or, at the least, may be telling the truth on the balance of probabilities.”

Following the interview with X, Mr Greaves decided no disciplinary action could be taken against him and wrote a report for party officials and for Mr Farage outlining why.

In his account to this newspaper, he wrote: “At this stage the complaint is, on any view, in a sorry state. C has given accounts which as to material matters are inconsistent with one another, certainly to the eye of a skilled criminal cross-examiner.”

He pointed to a series of inconsistencies, including the email on Sept 26 which made no mention of an assault. The email, he explained, “fatally undermines her later assertions of having been assaulted and having had he [sic] drink spiked”.

Mr Greaves also pointed to discrepancies between her account and statements from Miss Duffy and Mrs Farage among others, not least the alleged victim’s claim that she had suffered nose bleeds and loss of vision, adding: “The evidence of KF and LD entirely contradicts this.”

On Nov 9, Mr Greaves also wrote to the woman, inviting her to make a formal complaint to Ukip, but advising her that if she wished to do so “it is inevitable that other people will have to be involved in the affair”.

In his account, he added: “One might properly and reasonably conclude that any solicitor advising her would give her advice that once she makes a complaint of this kind it would inevitably find its way into the public domain, even before the advent of the egregious era of so-called ‘social media’.”

The woman, who had been to see a lawyer, wrote back promptly saying that she did not wish to lodge a formal complaint with Ukip. But she also wrote on Nov 12 that she had been “blackmailed into keeping quiet and that photographs taken outside the hotel would be used against her”. In the letter, the alleged victim also said for the first time that a woman had “set up the attack”.

Mr Greaves saw this as further proof of her constantly changing story. He also concluded that the attack was not a serious one. “The only complaint made had been one of assault by battery, to the extent of the ripping of a dress (to an unknown extent) and spitting. On any view, it is unlikely that that would attract more than a conditional discharge from the magistrates,” he wrote.

He also pointed out that there was no “sexual aspect” to the case except for the woman’s approach to Mr Farage earlier in the evening when she invited him to room.

Mr Greaves informed Mr Farage of his findings and at that point closed the file on the case.

Ukip’s leadership believed that was the end of the matter, but details began to leak out. In March, the alleged victim posted some of her allegations on a social networking site. “Too many witnesses to what happened. Some have evidence,” she wrote in one message, followed by: “Starting to write a short book about the attack. Finding it incredibly painful but will shame those involved. Someone spat in my face too.”

A few days later she added: “If you’ve been drink spiked go to the police, get evidence.”

Later she wrote: “I don’t know which was worse: waking up the next am and not being able to see properly or blood running down my face and not remembering a thing.”

She has never gone to the police and the West Midlands force has no record of any allegation of assault.

The woman still stands by her story, while Ukip disputes it. The truth is that what actually happened at Ukip’s conference that night in September may never be fully known.

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There is NO aspect of Robert Mendick’s presentation of this story that leads me to alter the views I put forward on the 07-Jul-2013 at CLICK HERE

The only viable way forward to dig UKIP out of the hole it has dug for itself is to make sure justice is done and UKIP act responsibly and hand the matter over, as a complaint, to the police – thus exhonourating Farage from blame and culpability and he and his officers being accessories after the fact to a criminal event, be that a false allegation by a young and drunken woman or a whitewash to cover-up a crime or the assault by one or more members of the party.

Clearly UKIP in its present state as a libertine and largely irresponsible organisation should set an example and admit its mistake and ensure that not only is justice done but is seen to be done by aiding those who they have wronged by making a third party complaint to the Police and demanding Police investigation to ensure justice and the clearing of the names of the innocent.

Letting UKIP’s vile gaggle of cowards, mysogenists and anonimised staff and supporters denigrate, speculate and defame on behalf of Farage’s party serves their cause ill!

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Young Ukip Activist Sexually Abused At Conference

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at this stage we have made the decision to protect the identity of this young woman who has been grossly sexually abused and humiliat6ed and forced to silence by the blackmail of being told the video taken of her (by whom we know) and by statements of those who took part in this obscene group assault and intimate photographs (the names of whom are known to us) and that the film, photos and details would be anonymously supplied to her parents and published on the internet.
At this stage the ugly event has deeply distressed the young victim with serious implications for her health and has asked us that we will not publish her identity. Her wishes have been respected – however should she at any time in the future feel strong enough to seek justice we would do all we can to assist her and the police to prosecute her abusers.
We would encourage the young victim to seek justice as a step to ensure this never happens to another young and vulnerable woman and to seek closure.

Female Ukip activist alleges assault after ‘drink spiked’ at party conference

Internal investigation by party general secretary reveals details of accusations, while recommending police are not involved

The unnamed party activist afterwards sent emails to Ukip director Lisa Duffy, in which she wrote “one of my drinks was spiked”, alleging that she was subsequently assaulted, and that she had been blackmailed into keeping quiet.

Later messages contained more detail of the events that occurred on 21 September last year, following a dinner where party leader Nigel Farage gave a speech.

The woman said: “One young guy took me outside, ripped down my dress while another took photographs, spat on me and called me a whore. All I remember is someone saying it was set up.”

She added: “One young man needs slinging out of the party and reporting to the police. I haven’t done the latter since I didn’t want a scandal for everyone who works so hard in Ukip or a scandal for my family.”

With the knowledge of Mr Farage, Ukip then commissioned one of its most senior officials, Michael Greaves, to investigate the incident. Mr Greaves is a lawyer who previously worked at the International Criminal Court, and he proceeded to conduct interviews with the alleged victim, attacker, and key witnesses including Mr Farage’s wife Kirsten.

The result of Mr Greaves’ findings was that “the complaint is, on any view, in a sorry state”, and he recommended the file on the matter be closed. The allegations have only come to light now because of leaked details reported by The Telegraph, and the fact that Mr Greaves then provided the newspaper with his full report.

The Ukip general secretary concluded that there was no need to get the police involved in the matter, adding that even if the man accused was found guilty the most likely sentence would be a conditional discharge at the Magistrates’ Court.

He also said that the only “sexual aspect” to the whole case was that the woman was reported to be “coming on strongly” to Mr Farage earlier in the night, apparently after drinking a large quantity of wine. Mr Greaves said that inconsistencies in the allegations and an apparently honest defence and alibi from the accused meant he could not recommend the matter go to the police.

He nonetheless told The Telegraph: “For what it’s worth something may have happened to her but I don’t think for a moment she got the right person. That’s my guess.”

The activist reportedly still stands by her story, and is claimed to have written on a social networking website that she was: “Starting to write a short book about the attack.”

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Ukip Always Seems To Be In Some Sordid Episode

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Ukip Always Seems To Be involved In Some Sordid Episode which is bubbling under or being covered up, be that the open claims of sexual excesses of the leader, MEP’s consorting with prostitutes in public places, sexual abuse of their children in the bath, assault, rape or the like.

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I appreciate that this is not a fully substantiated article but merely an exemplar of the behaviour of Ukip which was and is all too common, bringing these United Kingdoms into disrepute. howver be well aware that as a story it was considered sufficiently factually informative, by a major broadsheet, to pass its legal department!

That such events occur amongst the supporters of other Parties is neither mitigation nor valid as again and again in Ukip those who are responsible are elected members, staff and and amongst the leadership and its direct aspirants, and Ukip is a relatively small party.

Time and again we hear of such events in Ukip and of mistresses and salaried staff who seem incapable of not abusing those who end up beneath them by use of their positions of authority.

This seems a norm in Ukip where as it is clearly an exception in the main two parties, who clearly have better judgement and more adept disciplinary standards.

‘Spiked drink’ and the night Ukip’s party turned sour

The party faithful at Ukip’s gala dinner were in buoyant mood. Hours earlier, Nigel Farage had delivered a galvanising leader’s speech at the party’s 2012 conference.

'Spiked drink’ and the night Ukip’s party turned sour
The party faithful at Ukip’s gala dinner were in buoyant mood Photo: Reuters
 

The dinner afterwards at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Birmingham offered the leadership and rank and file the opportunity to have a drink, relax and mingle.

The meal was a largely jolly affair, accompanied as it was by a fundraising auction that – this being Ukip – included such desirable items as tea bags in a fancy box and a woven silk portrait of the Queen.

“This was a gathering that featured little of the bombast and none of the slickness of the larger parties’ shindigs,” reported one commentator at the time.

The Crowne Plaza hotel in Birmingham (Alamy)

Yet 10 months on, the repercussions of that night’s events are still being felt.

A female activist has claimed that, amid the frivolity of the evening, she had been subjected to a “brutal assault” by a senior figure in Young Independence, Ukip’s youth wing. She said her drink had been spiked and her dress “ripped down”. She had been spat on, called a “whore”, then photographed in a state of undress to ensure her silence.

The claims finally became public two weeks ago when The Telegraph’s Mandrake column reported some of the details, leaving Ukip open to possible criticism of effectively covering up a crime by not calling in the police.

Last week, Ukip responded by passing to this newspaper a dossier detailing the claims and counter-claims for what happened that night and in the weeks and months following.

What is not contested is that the alleged incident followed the gala dinner on Friday Sept 21, presided over by Mr Farage and the party’s chairman, Steve Crowther. The alleged victim had been placed at a prominent table by Lisa Duffy, Ukip’s party director.

Lisa Duffy

The events that followed are murkier and disputed. At the heart of the case is the woman’s claim – made 12 days after the conference ended – that she had been subjected to a violent assault after her drink had been spiked.

She made the allegations in a number of emails to Miss Duffy and, as a result, the party opened an internal investigation conducted by Michael Greaves, one of its most senior officials. Mr Greaves is Ukip’s general secretary, but also a lawyer with experience at the International Criminal Court.

Last week he released to The Sunday Telegraph a report he had compiled on the case, based on the alleged victim’s emails, an interview with one of the alleged attackers and eyewitness accounts. He did not interview the woman either face-to-face or by telephone.

Mr Greaves has also written a separate, longer account for Mr Farage and Ukip officials.

Steve Crowther

In the version handed to this newspaper, he concluded that the “matter had no legs whatsoever”. After interviewing or taking statements from, among others, Mr Farage’s wife, Kirsten, Mr Greaves felt that the alleged victim’s story contained contradictions that did not stand up to wider scrutiny.

He said that she had been drinking so heavily “she must have been close to causing herself ill-health” and that the day after the attack she “is seen to be in perfectly good nick”, casting doubt on her memory of events and her claim to have been traumatised.

Mr Greaves’s report outlines events from the beginning of the evening of the gala dinner. By then, according to the Ukip account, the alleged victim had already caused a stir.

Mrs Farage had witnessed the woman “coming on strongly” to her husband. The woman, who according to witnesses was “very drunk”, is alleged to have invited Mr Farage back to her room before she was escorted from the party leader’s presence. Mr Farage had “politely declined” her offer.

With dinner over, many of the activists went on to a party hosted by Paul Staines, better known as Guido Fawkes, the political blogger. The woman went too.

Michael Greaves

Mr Greaves wrote in his report: “C [the alleged victim] was again seen by KF [Kirsten Farage] who saw that she was still very very drunk. KF indicates that she continued to drink prodigiously, perhaps 10 further glasses of wine.”

He added: “It is after this period of alcohol consumption that C claims that she was assaulted by having her dress ripped, that she was spat upon and was photographed. One of those involved with her called her a whore.”

The next day, according to the Ukip account, the woman appeared to have made a remarkable recovery. Mrs Farage and Miss Duffy both gave evidence that she was “chatting, laughing and smoking” outside the conference venue and did not look “particularly traumatised”.

Four days later, on Wednesday Sept 26, the woman wrote to Miss Duffy thanking her for seating her at the table, saying: “I am really impressed with the direction that Ukip is taking.”

Eight days on, her tone had changed. In a second email to Miss Duffy, she laid out what she then recalled had happened to her.

“Two of your Young Independence members physically assaulted me quite brutally outside the Crowne Plaza in Birmingham on the gala night,” she wrote.

“I also realise that one of my drinks was spiked and the effects of this lasted two days, including loss of vision which was terrifying and loss of memory which unfortunately for me returned this week. I’ve been really traumatised by this and am not wishing to take things further due to threats being made against me.”

Two days later on Oct 6, the woman wrote again: “I’m still very traumatised… One young guy took me outside, ripped down my dress while another took photographs, spat on me and called me a whore. All I remember is someone saying it was set up.”

She complained of feeling “numb to everything around me” as a result of the spiked drink, and suffered from heavy nosebleeds.

She added: “One young man needs slinging out of the party and reporting to the police. I haven’t done the latter since I didn’t want a scandal for everyone who works so hard in Ukip or a scandal for my family.”

On Oct 18, she wrote again to Miss Duffy: “I am afraid that what I have been through is a very serious matter and I will need to get the police involved. I’m currently seeing a solicitor about the actions of [X] and two others who were also involved in what is an assault.”

It was at this point that Ukip’s leadership, with the knowledge of Mr Farage, asked Mr Greaves to investigate.

“It is not at any stage in this matter for Ukip to report matters to the police,” wrote Mr Greaves in his analysis for The Telegraph.

He drove from Brussels to the UK to interview the alleged attacker – referred to throughout the dossier as X to protect his identity. During the interview, X denied the attack and also gave an alibi.

Mr Greaves concluded after the interview that X was “on the balance of probabilities” telling the truth.

He wrote: “Apart from what I believe to be an untruth about his taking medication, which may be explicable on the basis that someone wanting advancement in Ukip might well decide to conceal a medical condition which seriously affects mood and temperament, the writer [Mr Greaves] had no basis whatsoever to conclude anything other than that X was telling the truth or, at the least, may be telling the truth on the balance of probabilities.”

Following the interview with X, Mr Greaves decided no disciplinary action could be taken against him and wrote a report for party officials and for Mr Farage outlining why.

In his account to this newspaper, he wrote: “At this stage the complaint is, on any view, in a sorry state. C has given accounts which as to material matters are inconsistent with one another, certainly to the eye of a skilled criminal cross-examiner.”

He pointed to a series of inconsistencies, including the email on Sept 26 which made no mention of an assault. The email, he explained, “fatally undermines her later assertions of having been assaulted and having had he [sic] drink spiked”.

Mr Greaves also pointed to discrepancies between her account and statements from Miss Duffy and Mrs Farage among others, not least the alleged victim’s claim that she had suffered nose bleeds and loss of vision, adding: “The evidence of KF and LD entirely contradicts this.”

On Nov 9, Mr Greaves also wrote to the woman, inviting her to make a formal complaint to Ukip, but advising her that if she wished to do so “it is inevitable that other people will have to be involved in the affair”.

In his account, he added: “One might properly and reasonably conclude that any solicitor advising her would give her advice that once she makes a complaint of this kind it would inevitably find its way into the public domain, even before the advent of the egregious era of so-called ‘social media’.”

The woman, who had been to see a lawyer, wrote back promptly saying that she did not wish to lodge a formal complaint with Ukip. But she also wrote on Nov 12 that she had been “blackmailed into keeping quiet and that photographs taken outside the hotel would be used against her”. In the letter, the alleged victim also said for the first time that a woman had “set up the attack”.

Mr Greaves saw this as further proof of her constantly changing story. He also concluded that the attack was not a serious one. “The only complaint made had been one of assault by battery, to the extent of the ripping of a dress (to an unknown extent) and spitting. On any view, it is unlikely that that would attract more than a conditional discharge from the magistrates,” he wrote.

He also pointed out that there was no “sexual aspect” to the case except for the woman’s approach to Mr Farage earlier in the evening when she invited him to room.

Mr Greaves informed Mr Farage of his findings and at that point closed the file on the case.

Ukip’s leadership believed that was the end of the matter, but details began to leak out. In March, the alleged victim posted some of her allegations on a social networking site. “Too many witnesses to what happened. Some have evidence,” she wrote in one message, followed by: “Starting to write a short book about the attack. Finding it incredibly painful but will shame those involved. Someone spat in my face too.”

A few days later she added: “If you’ve been drink spiked go to the police, get evidence.”

Later she wrote: “I don’t know which was worse: waking up the next am and not being able to see properly or blood running down my face and not remembering a thing.”

She has never gone to the police and the West Midlands force has no record of any allegation of assault.

The woman still stands by her story, while Ukip disputes it. The truth is that what actually happened at Ukip’s conference that night in September may never be fully known.

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There seems to be an inordinate number of such instances associated with Ukip & Ukip Yooof over the years. Talk of these irresponsible and self indulgent individuals occurs all too often, though as with this instance there seems to be a tendency to manage to ensure it is hushed up, it is allegedly achieved by blackmail and bullying, as was the case in this instance, it seems.

Wonderful just how much silence one can buy with photographs and threats to publish them on the internet I gather!

Alternatively the simple threat that their EU Building pass can be revoked, if they speak out, silences many when groped, abused or raped; as to complain would thus lose them their job – particularly with young attractive Latvians, Lithuanians and the like, ex Communist block, lobbyists and staff.

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Farage & His Party Lurch From UKIP Disaster AGAIN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/07/2013

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Hi,I’m no fan of the modern unions and believe they are largely to blame for the rot of British society and its industries, stiffling entrepenuerial efforts and sponsoring the obscene excesses of the Labour Party. Labour like the unions would seem to be largely a scam for rather unpleasant people to exploit the gullible and enrich themselves, in a largely unprincipled manner5.

One only has to look at the vaste wealth Tony Blair created for himself by exploiting political privilege and opportunities or Arthur Scargill who took over a huge union whilst living in a small house with a modest car and exploited the system to create a much smaller and all but irelevant union whilst chauffer driven in an expensive car and living in a large house!

Such a common patern!

I also resent the corruption of the democratic process which has been achieved by unions just as with the various superstition groups in our country be tyhey the bronze age cults & constructs like Islam or christianity or the modern fashionable scams like Greens, Warmists and their odious ilk!

I declined to publish the article below when I first read it on the 13-Jul-2013 as I do not value the opinions of union leaders any more than I value those of prattling priests of whatever superstition! However the article thaty follows this first article adds rather more weright to the comments on UKIP, with which in isolation I largely disagree!

Secret Unite report calls UKIP a ‘pre-fascist’ party: McCluskey’s union says Miliband ‘panders’ to the Right – and plots more control over Labour

  • Scathing report written by former Unite political director Steve Hart
  • Says Labour is not doing enough to oppose ‘austerity’ cuts
  • Criticises Miliband for intervening in Falkirk selection row

By Simon Walters, Mail on Sunday Political Editor

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Warning: Steve Hart, a recent Unite political director, wrote the key report

Warning: Steve Hart, a recent Unite political director, wrote the key report

Nigel Farage’s anti-EU UKIP party has been condemned as ‘pre-fascist’ and ‘xenophobic’ in a secret report by Len McCluskey’s Unite union.

The report accuses Ed Miliband of ‘pandering’ to Right-wingers, calls Ed Balls ‘deeply disappointing’, says Labour is not doing  enough to oppose the Government’s ‘austerity’ spending cuts and ‘prevaricated’ over fighting the so-called ‘bedroom tax.’

It praises ‘brave’ rebel Labour MPs who defied Mr Miliband by voting against new laws to force the unemployed to take jobs.

It is scathing about the Labour leader’s decision to intervene in the row over claims that Unite tried to rig a Parliamentary selection contest in Falkirk, Scotland.

And it reveals how Unite is to spend £10,000 on up to 100 Labour target seats, focusing on union- backed candidates – with the campaigns run by Unite ‘constituency captains’ – to try to gain more influence over Labour policies after the next Election.

The document, seen by The Mail on Sunday, was written by Steve Hart, who has close links with the Labour leadership and was Unite’s political director until he left last month after a power struggle.

Mr Hart is a former aide to Ken Livingstone and the son of the late Judith Hart, a Left-wing Cabinet Minister who served in Labour governments in the 1960s and 1970s. The confidential report, submitted to a meeting of Unite’s political committee, launches a highly provocative attack on UKIP leader Nigel Farage, warning Mr Miliband not to ‘chase’ his party’s votes.

‘The UKIP vote represents a dangerous, populist Right-wing vote which is swayed by anti-immigrant and anti-European rhetoric – and nostalgia for a comfortable world that never really existed,’ it states.

‘These are all the hallmarks of pre-fascist movements – which is not to say that UKIP is fascist, because it isn’t, but to point to the dangers of ignoring them and the issues or attempting to chase them.’

General Secretary of Unite union Len McCluskey is in the midst of a bitter dispute with Labour leader Ed Miliband over the Falkirk selection battle

General Secretary of Unite union Len McCluskey is in the midst of a bitter dispute with Labour leader Ed Miliband over the Falkirk selection battle

Mr Hart adds: ‘The threat of xenophobic UKIP remains very real – in common with Right-wing populism and indeed fascism, which is growing dangerously across Europe.’

 

In the strongly-worded section on ‘anti-fascism’, the report deplores the ‘outpouring of racism’ over the murder of soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich, adding: ‘Far too many, in the thrall of Islamophobia, sought to blame Islam. Yet rightly, no one blames Christianity for Jimmy Savile’s crimes.’

The disclosure of the report comes in the middle of a bitter dispute between Mr Miliband and Unite General Secretary Mr McCluskey over the Falkirk selection battle. The Unite-backed candidate, Karie Murphy, a close friend and ally of Mr McCluskey, was suspended from the Labour Party after claims that the union tried to rig the contest, a claim the union denies.

It prompted Mr Miliband to order major changes in Labour’s links with the unions. Defiantly, the union’s ‘General Election plan’ says that ‘in spite of current frustrations and anger’ in the wake of the Falkirk row, its ‘strategic purpose and direction remain clear’.

Slur: Nigel Farage's UKIP party supporters are described as dangerous

Slur: Nigel Farage’s UKIP party supporters are described as dangerous

It makes no attempt to conceal its lukewarm support for Mr Miliband, stating: ‘The worst Labour government is better than the best Tory government.’

It gives details of Unite plans to run its own campaign ‘cells’ in 100 Labour target seats, which will provide supporters with resources, including clothes.

‘Unite will build a structure based on one Constituency Captain and field organisers. The Constituency 10 will have responsibility for organising 10 contacts with each Unite member in the seat 20 months before the Election.’

The document makes it clear that despite its setback in Falkirk,  it remains determined to get as many pro-Unite Labour candidates as possible, and in secrecy,  if necessary.

‘Our work in selections is a bit like a swan, all that can be seen is indication of support here or there, while below the water, activity is furious.’

It says the activities of Unite’s political department is ‘dominated currently by candidate selection matters’, and it adds: ‘We  have had to park some areas of  work temporarily – selections wait for no one.’

To read the original article CLICK HEREIt is sad that UKIP with so sound a policy when they espoused Leave-The-EU has become so befouled and corrupt and utterly beredt of competent leadership, ethical standards and any gravitas with the unfortunate Nigel Farage, for all his talents as an entertainer, portrayed as something of a clown by the party he controls to promote him!

Populism may provide ‘shock’ results and publicity but showing ones leader as beset with his various doxies with an omni present, nay even mandatory, pint in hand as some sort of degenerate louthario is hardly meat for long term respect and results, compounded by promotion of his addiction to cigarettes and glee at breaking the law and like a small boy who tells juvenile toilet jokes Farage may get publicity being rude and offensive but he demeans democracy and undermines his own long term credibility.

That UKIP Press Office has a long list of liars, degenerates and criminals as its staff perhaps points the way to the source of his inept PR.

Just how inept the PR is is shown by the vile behaviour of its many faces with a few like Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller, Gawain Towler, Clive Page, Gulliford, Batten, Bloom and their ilk and the serial use of the corrupt influence of those who shelter their shame at their dishonesty and unpleasant efforts to denigrate & defame those who seek to expose the corruption and have adult conversations to try to make UKIP fit for purpose, by anonimising their output or using pseudonyms in their embarrassment.

Consider this article below where the Farage Party can not even agree on what excuses to use for their odious behaviour:

I was booted out of UKIP for my links to trade unions


Friday, July 19, 2013

A former UK Independence Party (UKIP) candidate in Devon, who followed Nigel Farage on his infamous tour of Scotland, claims to have been expelled for being a trade unionist.

David Smith, a retired teacher and bus driver who was in line to stand as an MEP, has branded his local Exeter branch a “renegade” operation and appealed to the colourful leader to “sort it out”.

Mr Smith, 64, who braved what Mr Farage branded as anti-English protests in Aberdeen and Edinburgh, said he was told his continued membership of the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers (RMT) was a case of “mixed loyalties”.

The party has angrily rejected the accusations as “fictional” and “ludicrous” – claiming it has growing support among disgruntled former Labour voters – and said Mr Smith’s membership was simply not renewed because he was “not a team player”.

UKIP has become a political force to be reckoned with this year, taking a 23.2% share of the overall vote to gain four seats on Devon County Council for the first time in May. But in Exeter, where Labour won two seats, taking their tally to seven, the party failed to make an impact on Labour or the Tories, who hold the remaining two seats.

Mr Smith was hoping to be selected to become a candidate for the European Parliament in 2015 until he received a letter dated June 17, from Devon-based party chairman Steve Crowther, declining his application to renew his membership and refunding his subscription.

Mr Crowther blamed the refusal on “repeated and sustained round-robin e-mails” making “all kinds of allegations”. “These allegations have been fully investigated and found to have no basis, yet the e-mails have continued,” he wrote.

Mr Smith claims the decision to exclude him should be taken by the National Executive Committee. He said there was an “unofficial policy” against union members, adding: “I want to stay in UKIP to fight EU domination but I have been pushed out – my question to Nigel is are you going to sort it out?”

In a reply to Mr Crowther’s letter, he added: “After travelling to the other end of the UK, canvassing and delivering leaflets in the housing estates of Aberdeen in the run up to the Don by-election where I actively supported our candidate Otto Inglis and Party leader against vociferous demonstrators, some of which were anti-fascists – this was some reward.”

UKIP South West spokesman James Carver said: “Mr Smith’s membership application was not renewed due to circumstances surrounding a breach of electoral law, and his failure to address that important issue to the satisfaction of the local branch committee, when challenged.

“The allegations in his letter are clearly misplaced and inaccurate – UKIP has many trade unionists as members, and at no time whatsoever was he censured for any trade union activity or membership. This is just sour grapes from a former member, who would not work as part of a team, at a time when UKIP is going from strength to strength.”

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UKIP Clearly has no future leading Britain

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/07/2013

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it is sad for those who really, really want to see Britain Leave-The-EU to watch the self destruction of UKIP as it persues numbers rather than results, dignity, gravitas or credibility packing its ranks with low grade supporters of little merit who are themselves so clearly betrayed by the clique leading, or so they would claim, and those who are trying to curry favour for a chance to climb on the gravy train.

We had such high hopes for UKIP as active campaigners and supporters of UKIP only to watch the party dragged into the gutter and exploited by a small clique for their personal gain.

Whether one reads the mainstream media or the vile behaviour of the cowardly anonymised foot soldiers who so demean the party in their efforts to defame those who seek honesty, transparency, democracy and integrity of UKIP in an effort to try to make them fit for purpose as the party that could have led Britain to Leave-The-EU – that has lost its way and its morals in an obvious defence of their personal pursuit of riches with no gutter too befouliong to stand in the way of their inept persuit of income and control.

Tories draw neck and neck with Labour as Ukip support falls

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Conservative support surges to see main parties level for first time since March 2012 on 36% of the vote in Guardian/ICM pollDavid Cameron at No 10. Conservatives are convinced that as growth picks up, the polls will swing decisively to them.

David Cameron at No 10 Downing Street

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The Conservatives have surged to sit alongside Labour in the polls for the first time in nearly 18 months, largely owing to a sharp fall in support for Ukip, according to the latest ICM monthly poll for the Guardian.

Labour will be alarmed that the two main parties are neck and neck despite the economy showing only tentative signs of starting to recover.

ICM’s telephone poll last month showed a strong Labour lead of seven points, but this month the Tories are benefiting from the continuing collapse in support for Ukip, down from 18% in May – just after its local election success – to 12% in June and now just 7%.

The shares of the vote are Conservatives 36% (+7 on last month), Labour 36% (no change), Liberal Democrats 13% (+1), Ukip 7% (-5), and others 8% (-2).Link to this interactive

It is the best result for the Tories in an ICM poll since they led by three points in March 2012, just before George Osborne’s mishandled budget presaged a series of other errors across the government machine.

The fall in the Ukip share may reflect the recent comparative decline in publicity for the party’s leader, Nigel Farage, and Downing Street’s persistent efforts to neutralise Ukip’s appeal by countering with a series of strong messages on immigration, welfare and a referendum on UK membership of the European Union.

It may also suggest that Ukip support is in part a protest vote exercised in relatively unimportant local elections and that this support dissipates once the protest has been registered.

Ukip is likely to argue that the drop in support has not been reflected in most other polls. At the weekend four online polls showed Ukip support in the high teens, but a new Populus poll showed Ukip on 10%.

Farage’s party will also be banking on a big resurgence of interest during the European parliament elections next June, when it will hope to come first in terms of national share of the vote.

The ICM poll findings do not appear to reflect any change in the underlying support for Labour since the party’s standing of 36% remains unchanged on last month – although party supporters may hope to dismiss it as an outlier.

By contrast, the running YouGov daily online poll shows Labour leading by about 11 points, a hardening in its ratings after an apparent softening in the previous fortnight.

The ICM poll also contains a clear warning for the chancellor: two-thirds (65%) do not believe his promise, made last week, that the deficit can be cut after the election without raising taxes.

There is a majority scepticism on this issue across the political spectrum, with 57% of people who voted Conservative in 2010 agreeing (2010 Lab, 70%; 2010 Lib Dem, 75%).

That suggests the Tories will struggle to damage Ed Miliband and Ed Balls in the next election campaign simply by warning of a Labour tax bombshell if elected.

The findings may also reflect the unwillingness of any voter to answer positively if asked a question that implies the respondent trusts a politician.

At the weekend the Lib Dem business secretary, Vince Cable, threw a new argument into the likely election tax and spending debate by saying he did not believe the last Labour government had spent too much in the run-up to the banking crash, but instead had failed to regulate banking.

Other Lib Dems, including the deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg, have persistently argued that the deficit was created by Labour overspending before 2008.

But overall, the Conservatives will be delighted with the ICM findings. Conservatives are convinced that as growth picks up over the next 12 months, the polls will swing decisively to them.

Cameron is also due to take the cabinet to a celebratory “away day” at Chequers on Thursday, where they are expected to hear political as well as government briefings before parliament goes into recess. A reshuffle in the ministerial ranks outside cabinet, which had been pencilled in for this week, now looks likely to take place in the autumn.

Conservative ministers are privately sceptical that they have drawn level with Labour yet, basing their judgment on other polls and doorstep response. They still maintain it will be very hard to win an overall Commons majority.

Ed Miliband’s brother, David, in a valedictory TV interview at the weekend, cautioned against the conventional wisdom that a hung parliament was likely after the next election. The British public may move decisively in favour of one of the main parties, he said, adding that there was still a “great danger” they might choose the Tories.

Lib Dems will be concerned at the absence of any sign in the ICM poll that their overall vote is picking up, despite the decline in Ukip support.

The findings appear to confirm the Lib Dems are no longer seen as a protest party, making it harder to win a new constituency.

Danny Alexander, the Lib Dem Treasury chief secretary, will on Tuesday publish the result of a Cabinet Office-led review into a replacement for the Trident nuclear deterrent. The ICM poll shows the public split on the issue.

Three in 10 (31%) think Trident should be replaced (rising to 45% of those who voted Tory in 2010), while an identical number (31%) think it should be slimmed down (rising to 37% among 2010 Lib Dem voters) and 30% think we should no longer have any deterrent (39% among Labour 2010 voters).

In his speech, Alexander is to back a limited replacement.

The poll also shows all three party leaders have judged the public mood correctly by rejecting the 10% increase in MPs’ pay from 2015 proposed by the parliamentary watchdog. The proposed rise would take MPs’ pay to £74,000 in 2015.

The public believe MPs should be paid a shade over £50,000 (£51,620 on average). Men are happier to pay more – at £54,000 – while women think MPs should be paid £49,000. A clear correlation between social grade and pay was revealed: those in the most affluent group, AB, suggest MPs should get £58,000, C1s suggest £55,000, C2s £46,000 and DEs £45,000. Lib Dem voters are the most generous (£61,000), as are people living in the south (£54,000).

 ICM Research interviewed a random sample of 1,003 adults aged 18+ by telephone on 12-14 July 2013. Interviews were conducted across the country and the results have been weighted to the profile of all adults. ICM is a member of the British Polling Council and abides by its rules.

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This seems very similar to the predictions of this blog, in that we have noted a surge in the protest vote where UKIP was ‘used’ as a dustbin for the protest voters seeking their own parties woulmodify their policies.

There has been an upsurge in apparent support for UKIP but as predicted this was little more than a dead cat bounce!

There is no sign of an actual popular uprising against the LibLabCon of which UKIP is a hanger on – The spparent surge in UKIP membership would seem to include dead, past and expired members and as UKIP boasts of a small head office staff it seems all too likely that their records are very poorly kept and deletions are long over due.

Little wonder that UKIP’s principle backer the retired professional gambler Stuart Wheeler has not only watched his fortune diminish, since selling his bettimng business, but has also finally woken up to the near total lack of competent leadership in UKIP, making it clear that firstly he did not trust them and would only donate if HE was appointed Party Treasurer a position in which he was happy to turn a blind eye to what seems to have been the criminal;ity of UKIP’s accounting procedures and the perceived trousering of upwards of £Millions by the small clique at the top.

It is not a matter of look how well UKIP has done in regaining the near 20,000 members he lost but just think how well UKIP might now be doing had they had a leader with the competence to devise strategies, tactics and a clear exit and survival strategy addressing Article #50 and taking a lead rather than seeking to sabotage efforts to petition Parliament to force a referendum debate which was achieved by Nikki Sinclaire the ex UKIP MEP who refused to remain in Nigel Farage’s racist and unpleasant EU EFD Group.

UKIP had chance after chance but as ‘chancers’ they have achieved little more than to provide the media with a useful tool to exploit using UKIP to build a whip with which the LibLabCon could be abused to create a story in default of any notable differences between tyhe main political parties.

It can not have escaped your attention and it surely has not escaped the attention of the very laziest member of the media, that in 20 years UKIP has abjectly failed to make any notabvle inroads in British domestic politics with no MPs, no Police presence with no Mayors and out of 1,700+ candidates put forward a mere 147 elected!

From this obvious failure it is clear UKIP has fallen back since the elections and has come nowhere near gaining seats in subsequent by-elections.

To some extent realising the catastrophic position of his protege party or is that ‘toy’ is now trying to make the party seem to be something other than the one man band it is and portrays itself as as he seeks to restrain Nigel Farage’s showmanship as the only regular representative of the party.

As we predicted and reported some time ago even Ms. James is not only sidelined by the party but openly attacked by some of the parasites seeking approval and income at the gift of Nigel Farage, as with the unpleasant postings made by the unreliable witness and to be frank outright liar, Annabelle Fuller.

Efforts to make the party more professional, as promised year after year by Farage, have been little more than a shambles with the abuse of power as manifest by the undemocratic and self serving determination of Farage to hand choose HIS prospective MEPs, from amongst his cronies and drinking buddies – we even have the risible specter of Farage, endlessly and stupidly presented, of Farage as the cheeky chappie in the pub and always with a drink in hand – the most crass of PR styles available that, though it brings publicity in the short term, has reflected with the serial failure of Farage and his party to achieve anything of note in efforts to reach Westminster beyond destabilising Tory voters adequate4ly to make way for Labour and what a catastrophe that is!

UKIP has thus made way for a return to the unlucky 13 years of destruction of Britain by Labour who are a party at war with itself where it is clear that short of manacle David Milliband to load him on the plane he was forced out of Britain as a clear force against the weak kneed and inept brother he has so clearly left behind! Labour, like UKIP, has no visible alternative totheir present leader whose abilities are clearly inadequate – this leaves way for the hand of their own ‘Brutus’ from amongst their inept and uninspiring leadership claque and the clique itself – In both parties, but there is no one of aptitude with leadertship skills in either party – The Tories are little better off and the LibDims are a joke.

UKIP has lost its way as it lurches along like an habitual drunk, in an ever befuddled state preaching Libertarian claims and practicing centralised authoritarian authoritarian control in a libertine and louche regimen.

UKIP would do far better if it were to spend more time planning, dervising strategy and tactics and showing just how and why Britain will be Better-Off when it Leaves-The-EU whilst trying to understand the Treaties and the importance of The Treat of Vienna and the details of Article #50 and the due process of devising an exit and survival startegy for Britain in the light of the authority of both the various Treaties and the significance of CODEX, The WTO and the like.

Saddly UKIP are unlikely to do the work essential when there is the omni present opportunity of excercising the expense account and getting a drink – as the photos and comments of Nigel Farage and his clique so readily show as they campaign to keep pubs open and smoking as a plus point on the agenda like naughty schoolboys who want to show off!

These are not politicians but self serving aspirants to ego fed incomes beyond their wildest dreams or abilities. They are clearly unfit for purpose and as Stuart Wheeler has made abundantly clear ‘not to be trusted’!

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Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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FOR THE RECORD – A STATEMENT OF FACTS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/07/2013

FOR THE RECORD – A STATEMENT OF FACTS

Hi,

For the record – despite the obfuscation, dissembling and outright lies of those trying to hide the truth about UKIP as it is – It is of absolutely no consequence how many read this blog or this web site or my Twitter or my postings around the internet and elsewhere, just like UKIP membership numbers are of no consequence just as it is irrelevant how many watch a UKIP video in America, China or even France – it is a matter of the caliber of those who read the entries NOT numbers.
This web site and all its entries are posted as an archive and if ONE person of influence reads it whether media, politician or individual and it leads to cleaning up & professionalising UKIP & giving it some ethical gravitas and consequence thus making it fit for purpose as a party, which British citizens would be proud to join to Leave-The-EU, it has served its purpose.
This blog is an archive available to all and made as accurate as possible, clearly differentiating between my opinions and values and factual reportage of UKIP.
As is clear: Any error of fact is always corrected, if brought to my attention, and comments are always published – for as long as they are compliant with the terms clearly stated as follows:

We welcome comments but reserve the right to moderate & refuse libelous or offensive comments and those we choose to delete when written by unidentifiable individuals hidden in anonymity in a cowardly manner to defame or abuse.

No comment has EVER been barred or deleted, which is genuine & clearly authored by a named & identifiable individual.

You will note many comments made have been commented on and even corrected by the blog owner.

We welcome genuine comments.

From my conversations with Team Junius I gather their aims were largely similar, as was their aim to inform and provide an archive of facts in support of UKIP becoming fit for purpose to lead to Leave-The-EU, which clearly it currently is not, as it tends to represent its own personal ambitions rather than British self determination, values and ethics.

At the moment Junius team have largely stopped addressing UKIP’s problems, in the belief that it is unlikely that UKIP will have any consequential influence on domestic politics after their failure in the local elections of 2013 when out of over 1,700 seats in which they stood candidates a mere 147 were elected and already they are falling by the wayside and or resigning due in part to lack of vetting, lack of professionalism and in some cases over racism, inappropriate behaviour and convictions for theft etc.

UKIP’s achievements are so clearly the product of a single individual that Junius has stood back from their role exposing UKIP’s ineptitude and dishonesty as unfit for purpose as to continue putting their own jobs at risk is no longer of sufficient consequence in the light of UKIP’s failure to obtain MPs, Police Crime Commissioners, Mayors or any other role of any gravitas or significance in domestic politics in 20 years.

Team Junius, I am told, will possibly re-enter the position of political commentary if the situation alters and UKIP becomes of greater relevance in UK domestic policy rather than self serving also rans!

For more FACTS regarding the accuracy of this site and my postings elsewhere read CLICK HERE
For more FACTS & information about me, including contact data, IF it will help you understand the FACTS this web site and my many other postings cover CLICK HERE

I NEVER post in cowardly anonymity, nor obfuscate my identity as I believe it is an ethical matter of integrity to stand by ones comments. If unsure or deliberately misleading one should NOT demean oneself by dishonesty hiding one’s identity as a coward or a traitor would.

For the record I have NEVER had personal aspirations politically, nor have I ever stood for office; further I have NEVER joined or been a member or been funded by any political party, faction or similar organisation.

I trust these facts help clarify details for the ill informed and the outright liars who seek to defame me, my blogs, postings and web sites.

Regards,

Greg_L-W.

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