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Archive for the ‘EUkip; UKIP; Insolvency; Bannerman; Bruce Lawson; Andrew Smith;’ Category

#93* – Consider Just HOW do the Caterpillars Help?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/10/2008

#93* – Consider Just HOW do the Caterpillars Help?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

Sadly the pond life that has gathered like parasites and leaches around EUkip MEPs are the only thing that makes them look good


I would ask you to consider and ask yourself once you have read this eMail just what do YOU think is being achieved and to what end by the leadership and NEC of EUkip – in what way are they contributing to our Country as they continue their cult of self infatuated egotistical idolatery – as they set up a venal cult of self importance, seeking through witch hunt and kangaroo courts to debase the Party that carries them.

Where and what are the moralities displayed by EUkip’s leadership and NEC just what are their values and their vision?

I am bemused as to what might be the net sum gain for my Country of the dishonesty, corruption and adulatory infatuation of an ever shrinking few as offered by EUkip as it bullies and bombasts cheating to gain prefferential positions for a sycophantic few at the expense of credibility and electability – just what gain is there in putting in as a puppet a shaven headed Liverpool scally with absolutely no relevant experience, in a knee jerk reaction to protect positions at the troughs – threatened by the lies and criminality of the foul mouthed slut and the infatuation of the leader such that he lied to support her on the national media and forced his party chairman out of office by insisting he put his signature to a pack of lies!

Clearly and unarguably Farage should not be above the law and the party constitution and there is absolutely no argument to defend him from the charge of bringing the party into disrepute – the facts speak for themselves and are undeniable as is the open and shut case that the appointed deputy leader is unfit for office of any public nature being a proven fraud, liar and cheat – nop disciplinary hearing is required as the evidence is absolute, indisputable and brings the party into disrepute – IF David the desk

Bannerman lacks the integrity and is so besotted by the smell of a place at the troughs then act honourably for him and chuck him out in shame.

It is increasingly obvious that EUkip is finished though despite the incredible number of enemies EUkip has gathered and the number who will actively campaign AGAINST EUkip in general and Farage, Andreassen, Bannerman and their ilk in particular – there is still a danger that Farage may be elected by the ignorant and having read his every speech and listened to every interview available there is absolutely no doubt that Farage will jump ship immediately after the election – For heaven’s sake wake up – Farage no longer represents UKIP members he represents ONLY himself.

I have all the recorded speeches of Enoch Powell and listen to them not infrequently; his use of our language is like poetry but less boring.

It is sad that he has been so disingenuously portrayed as in some way racists – it is as foolish to label him as racist as it is to present Winston Churchill’s essays on Islam, out of the context of history and his book, The River Wars as in some way Islamophobic or anti Islamic in a modern context – to do so in either instance is downright dishonest and if you have the intellectual ability to so do and the moral turpitude to thus exploit the ignorance and cupidity of others less intellectually fortunate you clearly debase your own argument and demean your own integrity.

Winston’s son made much of the values of Britain and with the father he had ‘stood upon the shoulders of giants’ to quote Isaac Newton. One must wonder what Addnnan Khasshoggi thought of young Winston adulterously having sex with his wife over a prolonged period – was SHE not a Muslim as was Addnnan also?

Then to drift into talk of ‘treason’ is surely a nonsense when no such crime exists on the statute book and the law setting it aside was prorogued for a set period for the trial of William Joyce – a most un British act as William Joyce did NOT commit treason though he was hanged for the crime. William Joyce could NOT commit treason against Britain or the crown as he was an Irish citizen!

The law of treason even in its hay day was a most difficult crime to prosecute for difficulty of definition as it had to encompass intent of outcome, which seems to be near unprovable as it is not possible to define intent as it is no more than a private thought process. This I understand was one of the main planks in the argument that led to Treason being struck from the statute book by due democratic process at Westminster.

Hence the idiocy, all be it based on righteous indignation (a defence under law – last used I believe by Jack Straw & Tariq Alli when facing prosecution for crimes of wilful destruction and ‘riot’, I understand they were aided in their crime by Patricia Hewitt and shielded by the arch Communist Barbara Castle!)

Sadly it is on these points that claims of treason fall – indignant at the thought that the very democracy we seek to defend has removed a plank of the defence is not a relevance when the gullible are duped into making asses of themselves by laying charges of treason at police stations against individuals whether extant or dead.

I freely admit I am neither a racist nor a nationalist and people’s superstitions are of no consequence to me and nor should they wish to impose them upon me. I wish to see Britain a haven that is willing to absorb those who value its values a model for the better world our peoples have given sequential sacrifice for.

We must as patriots never turn away those in need as do remind yourselves of the blacks, browns, yellows and whites of this planet who strove to support and defend these United Kingdoms because of our values – Racism & Nationalism of an exclusive nature are an excrescence and a shame upon the sacrifice of our ancestors.

We must as patriots welcome and shelter those who have in the past and may in the future give their lives for our values, Sikhs, Muslims, Buddhists, Jain, Jew, various sects of Christian and those who have no belief in theisms.

We might not be here as Britons whatever our colour and creed and surely we measure people by their thoughts and values, loyalties and compassions not their ethnicity as it is a wise man who knows his Father! Was it not Cecil Spring-Rice who as British Ambasasador to Washington convinced Woodrow Wilson to uphold those very values in WWI and subsequently wrote:

I vow to thee, my country, all earthly things above,

Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love;

The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test,

That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best;

The love that never falters, the love that pays the price,

The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice.

I heard my country calling, away across the sea,

Across the waste of waters she calls and calls to me.

Her sword is girded at her side, her helmet on her head,

And round her feet are lying the dying and the dead.

I hear the noise of battle, the thunder of her guns,

I haste to thee my mother, a son among thy sons.

And there’s another country, I’ve heard of long ago,

Most dear to them that love her, most great to them that know;

We may not count her armies, we may not see her King;

Her fortress is a faithful heart, her pride is suffering;

And soul by soul and silently her shining bounds increase,

And her ways are ways of gentleness, and all her paths are peace.

If we lose sight of what we are striving to defend and slip into the bitter, bullying racism of the BNP, unwilling to renounce the racism and murders on which it is founded, the American White Supremacy that supported the BNP and the National Front before it, the religious hatred that the BNP supports and encourages exploiting ignorance and fear for political gain then I would contend we have lost that which was worth fighting for.

I admonish you to read again Cecil Spring-Rice’s words and if possible listen to Katherine Jenkins’ rendition at:

We must remember why we are in this battle of survival – it is not for our egos nor for our gain but for the future wellbeing of our peoples and our planet. We are here to withdraw our Country from the evils of The EUropean Union not to build evils in our own land!

an eMail from the NEC leak may interest you as it so clearly makes my point albeit in brevity from a long standing UKIP member and chairman of branches:

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I sincerly hope you are all hanging your heads in shame this evening. I have just watched a program on ITV. centred around a mock referendum in Luton, subjects

(1) Lisbon Treaty , Yes or No,

(2) EU, in or out .

and I can only ask where were we?

This was a heaven sent opportunity for us this actually happened on the 9th Oct again where were we? where was the bus? The bus I know is lanquishing somewhere in Luton with no Tax or insurance – Why? Are you all so obsessed with your own little island of power to forget what we are about?

We are supposed to be the premier organisation against the EU we were not even mentioned, why did we not have a vast presence in Luton on that day, what is the press office doing that we were not told about this?

Ladies and gentlemen: I have learnt today of yet another branch chairman resigning, the party, peoples, is going belly up and you are doing nothing about it shame on you.

For god sake listen to the complaints answer the letters and get out of your ivory towers and come to branch meetings and find out, I have spent 10 years of my life for this party, and yes I also resigned because I was so disillusioned but was talked out of it by my branch, so I am now fighting not only the EU. but something that has gone radically wrong with this party, and I’m afraid its from the top, I’ve heard and seen Mr. Farage’s hitlist and very surprised I’m not on it, not that that is any worry, but you, peoples, have some explaining to do, why are you all ignoring the trouble we are in? or should I say the majority of you are, those that are listening are on that list. You have had what was called the Newmarket declaration, what have you done about it? I’ll tell you, sweet F–ALL, in the hope it will go away as is the case with all the other letters and complaints you receive, I personally wrote to Mr. Farage some few weeks ago and have not yet had the courtesy of a reply, surprised !! not really, not expected.!!

Ladies and gentlemen if you do not take heed you will soon find all you have is your Ivory towers then you can all take it in turns blameing each other for what has happened.

With no apologies,
Len Baynes
Treasurer Fenland Branch


A bit off frippery that clearly shows EUkip has lost sight of what matters – I received the following eMail and fortunately, bored I was about to dump some 1,400 spam eMails and noted this on my other computer:
—–Original Message—–
From: Bruce Lawson []
Sent: 21 October 2008 16:06
To: Greg Lance Watkins
Subject: UKIP – Your email 21st October

Dear Greg

Please retract your remark about me on your posts within four days, i.e. ‘Agnew, Lawson, etc. low lifes, trash, etc.’ and phone me personally (01686-668004) in addition. My inclusion in your list is totally unjustified, and I will sue you immediately for defamation if you do not act.


Bruce Lawson

To be fair and giving this little chappie a right to reply I presume that he means the following portion of my eMail:

#92* of the 21st. which stated:

Virtually without exception the EUkip MEPs are some of the most revolting, ill educated, dishonest chavs it has been my misfortune to meet I do so agree with Robin’s assessments above.

Sadly the pond life that has gathered like parasites and leaches around them are the only thing that makes them look good – Croucher, Denny, Fuller, Moran, Carver, Zucherman, McGough, Smith, Bannerman, Duffy, Andreasen, Wood, Lott, Williams, Mickelthwaite, Kingscott, Agnew, Lawson etc. low lifes, trash, spivs, climbers and beneath contempt in their dishonesty – as proven by the mess the party is in!
Many will recall the lies of Farage during the hustings and the lies of his supporters and staff to ensure they kept their snouts in the troughs.<<

In the spirit in which my eMail was written I obviously stand by my statement of my opinionPerhaps Bruce Lawson will accept the style of my eMail though he may not welcome my exposures.

May I suggest if he is so fragile that he is, as he has substantively proven, completely out of his depth in such an arena as EUkip, may I advise he withdraws from any public role – no I shall NOT bother phoning as I do not believe that Lawson has anything from which I could learn – however I will reconsider that judgement when he issues a public apology for having YET AGAIN shown what a pratt he is by YET AGAIN threatening me without valid grounds.

Lawson I added your name to the list advisedly – it is clear to all but the dumbest that my comments were not each and every one applicable to each person – do by all means advise which YOU believe fit your behaviour and incompetence – I am happy to publish your own opinion of your behaviour in leaving EUkip mid term as The Treasurer without completing the years accounts, your behaviour in failing to ensure the exposure of areas considered corrupt in the accounts by many members or draw up accounts that were adequately transparent as to bear investigation by members, or in what way it was responsible to present your first business meeting without comment on the preceding accounts abandoned by Andrew Smith in a totally unprofessional and disgraceful manner.

Perhaps after leaving, that you published your internal confidential maunderings between you and your employers in a particularly dishonerable manner on your so called UKIP Branch web site, by all means explain in what manner I should portray such a betrayal.

Then of course you might provide a more apposite soubriquette to your own behaviour when you had such an opportunity to act with integrity and clean up EUkip’s accounts and accounting procedure to TRY to make EUkip electable not just an apparent scam for self enrichment at the expense of the tax payers and members.

By all means do be more specific in language of contempt to more relevantly suit your abrogation of duty and care.You may also wish to explain whilst you are apologising for your behaviour for having raised such hopes that you would provide the details at meetings in Bournemouth sufficient to satiate the needs of the audience for exposure when in fact they sat in serried rows listening to your indecisive unincisive mumblings of ‘um’ & ‘er’.

Lawson – your fatuous outburst this time is almost as risible as the last time you threatened me without sound grounds.

WHEN the cap fits may I suggest you quietly wear it, maybe with a grimace, hoping not to be noticed whilst seeking ways to improve your position and your behaviour based on the lessons learned.

You are welcome to print this out and frame it as a reminder of how you have failed both in terms of being an adequate complainant of any credibility and also as a reminder that you will need far more lessons to be able to pass yourself off as an individual of stature, credibility, plausibility or at least as a Gentleman of integrity which could of course be achieved in some part by your apology both for this most recent incident of threat by you and also for your previous burst of foolish braggadocio for which to date you have proved not to be man enough nor adequately a gentleman to apologise.

Have you thought of book keeping as an occupation as you may find it more within your competence than dealing with people where clearly you lack the skills requisite.

Be advised that should you ONCE again threaten me groundlessly without first apologising that constitutes, under law, harassment and is as such a criminal offence. May I suggest you send a copy of your apology to a competent lawyer so that he will be prepared to act for you should you require competent defence in the future.


PLEASE HELP US TO CLEAN UP EUkip and restore it to the people as UKIP
in a fit and proper condition that men and women of integrity
could vote for it and if that can not be done
PLEASE HELP US ensure not one single MEP
is elected from amongst the scum that are listed.

Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

MAY I SUGGEST – since there is no political party of repute advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:


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