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Mr. Kettle Seeks To Defend Mr. Pot. To Keep UKIP In The Black

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/05/2014

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Mr. Kettle Seeks To Defend Mr. Pot. To Keep UKIP In The Black – In the unlikely form of the odious and dishonest pervert Gawain Towler, all too well placed as Nigel Farage’s puppet.

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Another Report of a Bent UKIP Councillor

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/02/2014

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it is not that UKIP is unique in having bent Councillors but it is the staggering percentage of the tiny number they have that is News Worthy!Yet further proof of UKIP leadership failure and its shambolic unprofessional selection process – you only have to look at the remarkably low caliber opf its MEPs, staff, NEC, Councillors and even the shower they have lined up as prospective MEPs hand selected by the leadership for the EU elections in May!

Here is one of the longest serving, who was ditched by a meeting of his full UKIP Regional Committee as unsuitable and as a result of the facts led by his wife of inappropriate behaviour with their daughter whilst bathing with her! Yet was immediately reinstated and given a full time job by Nigel Farage!

UKIP SW must be so proud of Nigel Farage’s choice

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Some may remember the hillarious comment made by Elizabeth Becket a UKIP NEC member at the time, who was on the regional committee when she tried to do Farage’s bidding with the statement:
‘But in a nice warm bath don’t all men get erections’! and bear in mind she used to be a nurse many moons ago!
Farage’s yes man who chaired the meeting was Malcolm Wood who valiantly tried to hide the corruption!

Council leader slams former mayor’s ‘hypocrisy’ over attempted land deals

Cheshire East Council to probe the conduct of Ukip councillor Brian Silvester

Councillor Brian Silvester.

A Cheshire East councillor who  has been campaigning against development in the green gap has  been trying to promote his own  open countryside land for housing, the  Chronicle can exclusively reveal.

Ukip councillor Brian Silvester has  been trying to strike a deal with Richborough Estates, a strategic land promotion company, for a 20-acre site he  owns with his brother in Shavington.

The Chronicle has obtained copies of  emails the Willaston and Rope councillor sent – from his Cheshire East  Council email account – to the company.

The emails show that Cllr Silvester,  who has been campaigning against developments in and around Crewe because, ‘maintaining the green gap is a  massive issue for residents’,  has been  trying to cash in on his own countryside  land by getting Richborough Estates to  promote it as suitable for housing.

When approached by the Chronicle  about the matter, the Willaston and  Rope councillor said it was a ‘storm in a  teacup’ because he jointly owned the  land with his brother and some of the  site, at Shavington House Farm, Crewe  Road, was brownfield. Richborough refused to promote Cllr Silvester’s land,  which could accommodate about 150  houses, for development.

In an email sent to the Ukip councillor  in September of last year, company  director Paul Campbell said: “We consider your site to be a step too far in  eroding the gap between Shavington  and Crewe.”

The email continued: “As a business  we will only pursue sites that we feel are  logical and technically sound and,  frankly, we believe your site would  cause significant landscape impact.”

He suggested if the councillor  was unable to find anyone else  willing to put in an application for him  ‘maybe you could put an advert in the  Crewe Chronicle if you’re struggling’.

The first email the Chronicle has seen  in relation to this is dated November 29,  2012, and was sent from Cllr Silvester’s  Cheshire East email account.

It is addressed to Richborough director Paul Campbell and reads: “Paul,  Wain Homes have won their appeal to  build 80 dwellings off Rope Lane in the  Green Gap. Are you still interested in  our land on the Shavington side of the  bypass in light of this rather surprising  decision? With best wishes, Brian.”

On December 3, when the company  director replied he might be interested,  Cllr Silvester emailed – again from his  Cheshire East account – “I think there  is a good window of opportunity for our  site now but we need to move quickly  before it closes. In light of that we have interest from a number of developers, so speed is of the essence.”

On December 7, 2012, Cllr Silvester  emailed again: “Paul, Would you be  interested in putting in an application  now?”

On January 18, 2013, he emailed yet  again: “Paul, What level of option fee  and contribution towards our legal  costs would you be willing to offer?  What period of option would you require? Would you apply now for all the  20 acres or for a smaller area?”

Richborough Estates declined in  September of last year to go ahead with  any deal because of the sensitivity of the  site and after learning Cllr Silvester had  written a letter to Willaston residents  asking them to object to its (Richborough’s) application off Moorfields.

Mr Campbell emailed Cllr Silvester to  say: “Given your objection letter to all  the residents of Willaston asking them  to object to our application off Moorfields, I am afraid that I am going to  have to decline promoting your land  at Shavington. This is partly because you have gone out to try and  seek people to object to our application on the grounds of green  gap when your site is also green  gap, which is a rather inconsistent  and self-defeating  position to the one  taken on your own  land, but also because we consider  your site to be a  step too far in  eroding the  gap between  Shavington  and  Crewe.”

 

Councillor said he wouldn’t stop his brother cashing in

Ukip councillor Brian Silvester has told  the Chronicle the Shavington site in question is jointly owned and it would not be  right to stop his brother from trying to cash  in on the land.

Cllr Silvester also claimed the site is  partly brownfield ‘and development is encouraged on brownfield sites’.

When the Chronicle pointed out the rest  was green gap, the councillor again repeated he owned it in partnership with his  brother.

“The land is not in my sole ownership,”  he said. “I can’t stop my brother doing what  he wants to do.”

When asked by the Chronicle if he was a  50/50 partner with his brother, Cllr Silvester said he was.

When it was then suggested that it would  be difficult for his brother to go ahead with  a scheme without his consent if they were  equal partners, the Willaston and Rope  councillor said: “It would not be right of me  to stop my brother doing what he wants to  do. That would be wrong. If he wants to  proceed that’s up to him.”

Cllr Silvester insisted he was justified in  campaigning against countryside development when he was trying to do the same  on his own land.

He re-iterated part of his site brownfield.

“I’m supporting my residents to defend  themselves against the unwanted development in the green gap and on my land,  that is the land owned jointly with my  brother, there has been no application so I  don’t see what the problem is,” he said.

He added: “I think it’s a bit of a storm in a  teacup because there’s no planning application [on his land] and even if there was  I’m only a part owner and part of it is  brownfield.”

The Chronicle asked Cllr Silvester why, if  his brother was the main person behind  the idea, it had been him [Cllr Silvester]  who had made all the contact with the  company.

He said: “I don’t think my brother liked  using email at that time.”

He insisted he had done nothing wrong in  using a council email address to try to  conduct private business involving planning.

“That was only for convenience,” he said,  adding the council allowed its members to  use their council email for personal use.

 

Developer confirms contact with councillor

Riichborough Estates director Paul Campbell  has confirmed to the Chronicle the emails  between himself and Cllr Brian Silvester are  genuine. The Chronicle contacted Mr Campbell  to check the authenticity of the documents before speaking to the Ukip councillor.

Mr Campbell confirmed they were genuine exchanges between himself and Cllr Silvester and  then explained how his company had first approached the Cheshire East councillor about the  land three years ago.

“We would have sent out a whole raft of  letters at the same time to landowners on  the edge of Crewe and the villages,” said  Mr Campbell.

“We get details from the Land Registry about who owns it.”

He said some people respond, others do not.

“Brian got in touch in 2011 to  say he was keen,” said Mr Campbell.

The company director said  everything went quiet for a while  ‘then he started chasing me again  when the Wain Homes decision  came out’.

Mr Campbell said by then he had  decided on another site and when he  learned Cllr Silvester was also campaigning actively against his company  over a Willaston scheme he was  astounded.

“We always found it puzzling – the  stance he was taking against our application when his actions spoke so differently on his own interests,” he said.

 

Councillor fought applications saying green gap was ‘massive issue’

CHESHIRE East councillor Brian Silvester has expressed his  opposition to several planning  applications because they were  in the green gap, despite trying  to secure a deal on his own  Shavington land.

In May of last year he told the  Chronicle he was concerned  about Gladman’s application for  95 homes on land at Audlem  Road in Audlem and an application for a site off Newcastle  Road in Willaston which was  put forward by Emery Planning  Partnership.

With regard to the Newcastle  Road site, Cllr Silvester said he  objected because ‘maintaining  the green gap is a massive issue  for residents’.

This week Cllr Silvester insisted he had done nothing  wrong.

“The emails are well over a  year ago and quite dated.

“I have been working very  hard in the area inviting people  to object to their (Richborough’s) application.

“I have done it for the appeal  and they’re trying to stop me  doing what I should be doing for  my constituents.”

Cllr Silvester also emailed the  Chronicle on Friday to say: “Further to our phone chat, [between  himself and reporter Belinda  Ryan] we [Cllr Silvester and his  brother] own 12 acres to the  north of the A500.

“The developers of Gresty  Oaks approached us to include   our land as part of their housing  development and we declined  because that land is entirely in  the green gap and has no brown  field land at all.”

A few minutes later he emailed  the Chronicle again to add:  “Richborough are having a go at  me because they do not like the  very vigorous way I am opposing their application/appeal for  170 houses  off Moorfields, Willaston, on behalf of my constituents, who are vehemently opposed to the application. Instead  of making the case for their application they choose to attack  me personally, when all I am doing is to defend the interests of  my residents as I have always  done and will continue to do so.”

Cllr Silvester, the former  deputy leader of Cheshire East,  who is also an ex-leader of  Crewe and Nantwich Borough  Council and a former Crewe and  Nantwich mayor, quit the Conservative party in November  2012.

At the time his political future  was being discussed by the  party, following his criminal  conviction the month before.

He and his brother Colin were  fined £45,000 and ordered to pay  £22,000 costs after pleading  guilty at Chester Crown Court  to a catalogue of fire safety  breaches at the building they  rented out as bedsits on Crewe  Road in Shavington.

At the time the court heard  from prosecutor Bernard Thorogood that when fire officers  had carried out an inspection of  the property ‘the risk of serious  injury was so significant that  immediate action needed to be  taken and a prohibition notice  was issued. The circumstances  were such that a fire would have  spread rapidly throughout the  premises’.

Cllr Silvester – who once stood  as a parliamentary candidate for  the Tories – refused to stand  down from Cheshire East despite numerous calls for his  resignation because of his criminal conviction.

He represented the people of  Willaston and Rope for several  months as an Independent before joining Ukip in June of last  year.

 

Council to probe councillor’s conduct

Cheshire East Council has  asked the Chronicle to hand  over the correspondence we have  showing Cllr Brian Silvester used  his council email to try to conduct  personal business with a land developer.

The Chronicle contacted Cheshire  East for a statement after seeing the  emails. Cheshire East Council has  since asked us for a ‘copy of the  dossier as the leader will want to  pass that to the monitoring officer’.

This means the council will now  consider whether or not the Ukip  councillor has broken the council’s  code of conduct. Cllr Silvester has  not acted illegally in any way.

Cheshire East leader Michael  Jones was incensed when he was  approached by the Chronicle. “To  me, this would appear to be  very  hypocritical of Cllr Silvester and I’m  really disappointed for the people of  Willaston,” said Cllr Jones.

“I will now refer this to the monitoring officer because of him using  Cheshire East equipment.”

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#0762* – UKIP Conference ‘…arrogant right-wing political activist…’

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/03/2012

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UKIP Conference ‘…arrogant right-wing political activist…’!

THE ONLY serious publicity in the British media with regard to UKIP’s Spring Conference – Unless you count The Guardian’s use of UKIP to try to damage The Tories!!

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UKIP out of here! Rowdy right-wing activists barred from pubs

5 Mar 2012 00:00
25 UK Independence Party members were handing out fliers when some apparently went crazy after being asked to leave a quiet boozer

Row: The Stumble Inn
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A bunch of arrogant right-wing political activists were kicked out of a string of pubs in a night of shame.

The 25 UK Independence Party members were handing out fliers when some apparently went crazy after being asked to leave a quiet boozer.

They allegedly began threatening bar staff and police had to be called.

The cocky group – bedecked in Ukip badges – included disgraced former Tory MP Neil Hamilton.

Appalled drinker Clive Hales, 57, said: “I’ve never seen a bunch of ruder or brasher people.
“They were a bunch of Hooray Henrys and had clearly been drinking beforehand.

“They were asked to stop handing out their leaflets as it is not a political pub. That’s when the trouble started.”

Neil and Christine Hamilton at the opening of The Museum of Brands, Packaging and Advertising in Notting Hill
Member: Neil Hamilton is on the UKIP national executive
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Mr Hales claimed: “They said they’d get the place shut down. They were lairy and one (not Mr Hamilton) told a member of staff he was a barrister who’d ensure that he never worked again – all for asking him to be quiet.”

He said Mr Hamilton – who lost his Conservative seat in the cash for questions saga and was elected to Ukip’s national executive committee last year – had not been behaving badly but he added: “He did nothing to calm the situation.

“It’s ironic that they pride themselves on being the party of traditional British values and then go and behave like this.”

Trouble flared at the Red Lion as the activists tried to hand out Save the Pub fliers in Skegness, Lincs.

Among other stops was the Stumble Inn. A barman said: “They’d already been asked to leave other pubs. They were told they couldn’t put leaflets here and were asked to go.”

Ukip press officer Gawain Towler, who attended the night out, said they had already paid for food and drink when told to go.

He said: “One of our younger members did shout something but he was immediately taken outside by one member and given a good talking to.

“But to suggest we were all shouting insults and threatening people is ridiculous.”

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Well I guess it is better than a double page spread about Nigel Farage consorting with a prostitute having been picked up in his local – then we even had graphic details of his sexual pecadillos and not a single solitary UKIPPER stepped forward to aid or support him and clearly he has no friends just his sycophants bought by promises of preferrment paid for with public money!

Nor is it as cringeworthy as the lengthy article aft6er one UKIP spring conference which was little more tha a discussion of Nigel Farage’s testicles or more to the point lack of them!

Then we had the pack of lies from Annabelle Fuller in The Independent & The Daily Mail both endorsed by Nigel Farage! For a third party view on Annabelle Fuller & her damage to UKIP firstly note her threatening implication against The Mirror and then CLICK HERE

Indeed this is just a story of the sort of discredited politician and the idiots who are impressed and follow them – a vast improvement on the discussion of the size of Gawain Towler’s erections when bathing with his daughter or his own braggadocio regarding his past perverted sexual exploits and fantasies!

Just consider for a moment – this bunch of fraudsters, discredited yahoos and congenital idiots aspire to LEAD us and seek our votes to do so!

Little wonder that after many £Millions of other peoples’ money in 20 years it is easy to find damaging facts and publicity with 2 MEPs jailed so far – a few discredited rejects MPs and MEPs from the Tories, clear anti homosexual policies as show in both a Court of Law and by their associates, this collection of misfits and rowdt boorish right wing hooray Henrys have, out of 19,500 available elected seats in British public office, they have failed to be elected to even 30 and still bump along with under 10% support – insufficient to be taken seriously other than aspirants to aid or gain access to The Gravy Train!

Sadly after so much public hope all that we have seen from UKIP is yobbery, bullying, cyber abuse, lies and betrayal as a small clique enrich themselves at our expense supported by an aspirant claque.

UKIP has consistently betrayed their supporters and befouled politics and that takes some doing! All too often they act in a manner not of leadership but beneath contempt and to this day not one has EVER apologised for their lies about me nor have they p[aid the £12,500 they owe me – yet they wonder why I keep publishing the facts and the truth about them!
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#0671* – UKIP Demeaned by Its Leadership, its claque & its Alies

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/10/2011

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UKIP Demeaned by Its Leadership, its claque & its Alies!!

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I have ALWAYS questioned UKIP’s inept leadership – it has most clearly been based upon a small iner clique of people seeking self enrichment and agrandisement surrounded by a claque of vicious and often clandestine fools, in the belief they might benefit from some kind of ‘Buggin’s Turn’.

It is a danger of the inept and incompetent in leadership that they either fall fast and far as soon as decent folk have realised their unpleasant characteristics or they have gathered around them a sufficient claque to hold their position – as did Blair and clearly as have UKIP’s leadership.

It is remarkable to note the similarity between Blair and UKIP’s present leader Nigel Farage – both held in position, for lack of competent challengers having performed a Lady Macbeth having cut the throat of every possible Duncan who accepted their hospitality or arrived at their castle.

The similarities do not end there as both were inept as leaders without the basic Officer Qualities required – little more than showmen who for a while looked good on TV and had a winning way about them. Both gathered around them as their protection claque life’s failures and perverts with no other home or place to go – all seeking crumbs of comfort or cushy jobs, men and women of absolutely no merit and if they displayed any ability soon getting their throats cut by the claque who felt their position challenged.

Both individuals clearly and totally lacked judgement in selecting their allies and associates.

In Blair’s case he became the puppet of the corrupt and financially self serving Bush Regime and friendly with the morally incontinent Bill Clinton and his sordid pushy flesh creeping wife.

He appointed an utter economic illiterate Gordon Brown in a mutial involvement of blackmail based upon their personal perversions – having consorted with the most odious of modern day perverts the crooked and duplicitous Peter Manderlson and other clearly untrustworthy self seekimng men of power and zero morality like Maxwell, Robinson, Irving and the like with no shortage of dangerous and untrustworthy supporters and courtiers like Blunkett, Straw, and in the followers league to be rewarded the likes of Flint, Hewitt, Hain, Harman, Dromey and the like.

I must say all supertbly managed by the ‘Gaulleiter’ John Presscot and the structure put in place and managed it would seem through Julia Middleton’s Common Purpose.

Farage has attempted the same but with predictably less success – He is not nor has he ever been backed by The Communistss but there is no doubt he is hugely welcome by The EU who turn a blind eye to his apparent financial corruption and his amorality and lack of understanding of any kind of ethics. He has provided The EU with a visible screen of democracy and howmany times have we heard Farage cited as the proof The EU is democratic or he could not perform his schoolboy stunts, crass PR, inept press office, nor to be fair deliver his often excellent speeches in The EU Parliament (which no one hears or listens to!).

As for selecting friends and personal judgement it is of little merit to list his stupidities on a person by person basis be it the common thief and trollop Annabelle Fuller, the creepy pervert Gawain Towler, the odious and idiotic Douglas Denny or Mick McGough with their serial lies and fantasies or the failed press officer, failed publican, failed fixer and utterly corrupt low life Mark Croucher.

Consider the larger scale when it comes to judgement – Why did UKIP Leadership rig its selection to ensure more useless cronies topped their MEP lists – particularly in The Eastern EU Region of the UK. Why did they import the liar, cheat and crooked Spanish, Argentinian, Danish Marta Andreasen when so many others had rejected her (wisely).

Why did UKIP leadership risk splitting their party by allegiance with the extremists, the racists, the xenophobes, the anti homosexual, the anti Jewish, the holocaust deniers and the violent gutter sweepings of EU politics to grant credance to The EU insistence on Pan EU groupings by forming The EFD to represent UKIP members and the interests of British citizens of the UKIP electorate?

For considerably more information on The EFD CLICK HERE

You will also have been aware of the efforts to support The True Finns and to derive credibility from this odious Finnish Political Group.

Just as UKIP Leadership aided the Government and The EU by their total absence and complete lack of campaign or even visible effort during the imposition of The EU’s new constitution finally enacted as The Lisbon Treaty – we note they have provided very little background on their new EU pals The True Finns – though Haider’s Party in Holland was UKIP’s last failure of judgement as it seems they have spurned association with UKIP in the extremist EFD Group!

Perhaps some information regarding True Finns might help members – who recently voted 2 to 1 against their leaders and forming Pan EU Political Party Groups!

I hope UKIP members find the following of interest and enlightening as to their leadership’s new chums.

Wednesday, 28 September 2011

Study: True Finns condone violence

According to an international study into extremist groups, some True Finn members condone political violence. This is part of a Europe-wide study on the rise of populist sentiment and seems to be a far-reaching phenomenon. The study mentions specifically internet sites which condone hatred and promote violence, without mention of blogger and popular racist Jussi Halla-aho’s webforum Homma. Shockingly, the study was conducted after the Oslo massacre in which a radical racist targeted leftist politicians, leaving 77 dead.
Matti Putkonen, rapist, violent criminal, True Finn campaign manager
The study was swiftly condemned by the True Finns’ campaign manager, Matti Putkonen. Putkonen is of course remembered as a violent criminal, having been convicted of aggravated rape to an eight-month custodial sentence. He also had to pay a €10,000 fine, presumably to cover medical harm. Speaking at a live radio show, Putkonen called for the female chief of staff at the Ministry of Interior who published the study to resign, and said that the True Finn party does not condone violence. Thankfully, things did not escalate further this time as mr Putkonen was safely at the other end of the telephone line.

Matti Putkonen, rapist and habitual political opportunist is probably the best example of the True Finn hypocrisy when it comes to their value base. Former member of the Social Democratic party, former media rep for a labour union, Putkonen grabbed at the chance to jump ship just as soon as the polls showed a double-figure rise in support for the True Finn party. In a civilised society he would be on some kind of a registry already, and barred from holding a political office.

Thursday, 22 September 2011

James Hirvisaari: No Viet Cong ever called me Persu

True Finn first term MP and a prominent signer of Jussi Halla-aho’s racist election manifesto, James Hirvisaari has shocked but not surprised people with his recent blog post. James Hirvisaari says it is equally bad to call someone as “persu” (a name for the True Finn party, derived from the Finnish name PerusSuomalaiset) as it is to call someone a nigger or a yid. He also proceeds to call all reporters vultures and scavengers, and goes on to state that the media is out to get him and all other True Finn speakers of truth. On his blog. Which is hosted on the server of the newspaper Uusi Suomi.

persu party member James “persu” Hirvisaari

MP Hirvisaari’s angry blog post comes right after the Finnish broadcaster YLE’s “Hate Night Special” where they discussed hate speech. Evidently James Hirvisaari thinks it terribly unfair to only focus on the party which keeps spouting racist crap, when the topic of discussion is racist crap being spouted by politicians. The comments also come after the setting out of internal True Finn party guidelines on banned words. The guidelines contain a list of words to avoid, some of which James Hirvisaari chose to use in his blog post.

The True Finn parliamentary group leader, and one of the few two-term True Finn MPs Pirkko Ruohonen-Lerner was reportedly ‘frustrated’ over Hirvisaari’s remarks. She goes on to state there are vastly more important things to focus on, such as increased regional taxes. There is of course support for James Hirvisaari among fellow MPs. Having recently been expelled from the True Finn parliamentary group for calling for a military coup in Athens, MP Jussi Halla-aho compared the ongoing hate speech discussion to a “rise of a totalitarian, orwellian atmosphere in Finland.” The irony remains duly lost on all his followers.

Regardless of what your political outlook might be, comparing someone using a word you don’t like for your party to a racial slur is extraordinarily thin-skinned. Even more so when the vast majority of your own supporters think it a neutral term, if somewhat informal. Moreover the timing of the whole thing just shows an amazing degree of political insensitivity, coming just days after MP Halla-aho was temporarily expelled from the party over a Facebook post. It could of course be a part of a brilliant master plan by the Halla-ahonist fringe of the True Finn party, in which case all the co-signers of the racist election manifesto, James Hirvisaari, Olli Immonen and Juha Eerola, take turns to say racist stuff to get expelled. Brilliant is probably the wrong word to use though, it’s all degrees of stupidity with these people.

Thursday, 15 September 2011

Jussi Halla-aho expelled from True Finns

According to Uusi Suomi, leader of the True Finn party Timo Soini has proposed expelling blogger and popular racist Jussi Halla-aho from the party. This came after Jussi Halla-aho proposed replacing the Greek government with a military junta on his Facebook page. Here’s a translation of the relevant post:

Simple fact is that democracy (=elections) prevents any political government to take such action as to be really “effective” in solving the bankrupt Greek economy problem. Right now what is needed is a military junta that could use tanks to force the strikers and rioters into submission.

Jussi Halla-aho later tried to play his post off as some kind of a joke, but it was too late. True Finn parliamentary group leader, Pirkko Ruohonen-Lerner confirmed that expelling Jussi Halla-aho as a “temporary measure” is “very likely.” There has been speculation among followers of Finnish politics that this has to do with internal strife in the True Finn party, between Timo Soini’s eurosceptic loonies and Jussi Halla-aho’s racist loonies. Timo Soini, numerous as his other faults may be, is not actually racist and this move to disassociate his party from the most strident voice in the racist fringe was a long time coming.

Soon-to-become-irrelevant MP Jussi Halla-aho

It is generally assumed, that Jussi Halla-aho will be followed by his loyal cadre from radical racist Suomen Sisu. James Hirvisaari, Olli Immonen and Juha Eerola are all members of the movement, and will probably form a separate racist parliamentary group with their dear leader. This will spell the end of the extreme racist fringe playing any potentially major part in Finnish politics, so it’s a cause for great celebration! I have a feeling things actually took a turn for the better today.

UPDATE 14:28: Jussi Halla-aho’s expulsion from the True Finn parliamentary group was just confirmed in an unanimous decision. He is currently expelled for two weeks. This will probably not affect the bulk of his actual work in the parliament much, but he is unable to attend meetings of the True Finn parliamentary group.

Wednesday, 14 September 2011

True Finn MP plays the Nazi card

You all might remember the quote “Whenever I hear the word culture, I reach for my gun.” It’s frequently misattributed to Hermann Goering, but it actually comes from a pro-nazi play called Schlageter. People usually quote this to point out the brutality and violence of the national socialist regime, well normal people do that. True Finn MP Jussi Niinistö whom I’ve blogged about before apparently uses the phrase completely without irony.

Jussi Niinistö, you can’t see his hands but they’re reaching for his gun


Helsingin Sanomat reported
that in a parliamentary session this Tuesday, Jussi Niinistö said he is a strong proponent of expanded presidential powers, and that “whenever I hear the word parliamentarism, I reach for my gun”. Let’s just re-iterate that this quote is frequently raised as an example of the despicable brutality of the nazi regime, it’s certainly not a phrase that is in common use in Finland and would probably be in itself enough to send you to prison in Germany. Needless to say, this caused quite a bit of a scene in the session, and probably will haunt mr Niinistö for months to come.

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You may also find Junius informative on this issue CLICK HERE 
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#0489* – UKIP’s Spokesmen Summed Up!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/05/2011

#0489* – UKIP’s Spokesmen Summed Up!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP’s Spokesmen – Too Ashamed To Use Their Names – Summed Up!

There are also liars & low lifes who demean UKIP 
like Mick McGough, David Bannerman, William Shaw, Godfrey Bloom, Stuart Agnew, Hugh Williams, Malcolm Pearson, Lisa Duff, Mark Croucher, Stuart Parr, Gawain Towler, Derek Clark, Peter Reeve, Marta Andreasen, Douglas Denny and the like who have no reputation of value to defend!!
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Hi,

at last we have an accurate measure for the integrity of the likes of Skeptyk, Independent UKIP and so many other UKIP spokesmen who are too ashamed to put their name to their low grade rubbish, serial lies and desperate and childish attempts at defamation:

FOR THE RECORD:
Skeptyk in a dishonest and amateur attempt to defame me and this blog made the following comment on Anthony Butcher’s dishonest UKIP controlled Forum:

I started up my blog to address the hypocrisy

G.L-W. >>Not one single solitary example of hypocracy has this dishonest consortium of liars provided to date. Regarding myself NOT ONE. Skeptic you are a liar.<<

and the lies of those anti-UKIPpers

G.L-W. >>Nowhere can a single example of anti UKIP activity be found or attributed to me without the need for dishonest spin to present the facts I lead as ‘anti’ – I am and have for many years been a consistent and outspoken supporter of UKIP that it has become debased and corrupted and that it lacks any signs of professionalism, integrity, morality, probity, strategy, tactics, training, vision, judgement, leadership or values of any merit does not for one second detract from my support for the members of ethical standing who seek to Leave-The-EU. Skeptyk you are a liar.<<

who’s pious attitudes sickened me.

G.L-W. >>That ethics, transparency, probity, morality and a desire to clen-up UKIP to make it fit for purpose ‘sickens’ Skeptyk is probably the only honest comment I have EVER seen made by Skeptyk which can stand unqualified.<< 

Such as GLW’s ridiculous myth that he never lies

G.L-W. >>I am happy to stand by my EVERY comment in the context in which it was made and have NEVER once in my life been shown to have wittingly and deliberately lied nor set out with intent to deceive on any issue. Skeptyk and his associates have however been repeatedly proven to lie and deliberately deceive.<< 

– I can prove he is a liar with the greatest of ease;

G.L-W. >>Yet of the 1,000s of blogs I have written and 10s of 1,000s of postings on forums, news groups and publicly circulated ‘e’Mails never ONCE have the cowardly liars sheltering their dishonesty in shame behind anonymity shown a single solitary lie that I have EVER told deliberately or with intent to mislead. Rather more than can be said of those who post as Skeptyk or their associate Mick McGough and others of their self serving ilk.<< 

or how GLW thought Nikki Sinclaire was a ‘pervert’

G.L-W. >>I do not think Nikki Sinclaire MEP is a pervert I know her to be a pervert by her own claims. Nikki Sinclaire is a homosexual and in the context of the law and of her job – so what?

Is it that Skeptyk is too stupid to recognise that fact that homosexuality is a perversion – one of many that are ‘perverse’ to the norm but are considered perfectly legal and for which I actively campaigned for decriminalisation in the 1960s.

Is it perhaps that Skeptyk are seeking to point score by use of utterly dishonest Political Correctness which is NOT upheld by Justice.

Shame on you Skeptyk for seeking to undermine British Justice but let us not forget the contempt in which UKIP holds British Justice and the flagrancy with which they abuse British Justice and British Courts, without honour or integrity.<< 

until she fell out with UKIP,

G.L-W. >>Please identify where and when Nikki Sinclaire MEP fell out with UKIP, when UKIP is actively seeking through the idiotic Steve Crowther back long before the recent election to seek an accomodation that will recompense for the lies, abuse, dishonesty and ilegal treatment of her by such Leadership personalities and low lifes in UKIP as Nigel Farage, Malcolm Lord Pearson, Christopher Gill MP (Tory rtd./failed), Mick McGough, the cowardly Skeptyk, Godfrey Bloom MEP and various others of the pond life and unprincipled UKIP leadership team and its odious supporters. Skeptyk you are liars.<< 

or how the Junius blog employs the ‘talents’ of a BNP implant

G.L-W. >>Those in The EU and working for UKIP who are unhappy with the crass incompetence and serial dishonesty of the clearly unprofessional UKIP leadership do indeed publish material that they consider to be Factual and or humerous exposing the follies and dishonesties of UKIP’s leadership team and those in its immediate claque or employ..

Whether or not such material is the product of The BNP or a supporter of the BNP is as imaterial as the fact that UKIP frequently consorted with and supplied membership data to the extremist fascist organisations associated with AFL and other odious organisations acting violently in denial of democracy.<< 

whilst falsely claiming that UKIP’s links with the far right.

UKIP was clearly linked to the far right in fact the extreme Right.
Further UKIP leadership has seen fit to befoul UKIP by association with the Pan EU EFD Political Group , of which Nigel Farage, the titular leader of UKIP is President – a group which is encouraged, supported and aided by UKIP as a result a group which is openly Racist, anto Jewish, Xenophobic, pro EU membership, violently anti homosexual, criminal and holocaust deniers amongst its accepted principles!

Yes UKIP is associated with and supportive of The EXTREME FAR RIGHT in EUropean politics.

Further they are actively campaigning to subsume UKIP into such a group as a Pan EU Political Party prostituting the membership and principles for perceived gain yet aiding The EU by compliance in their diminution of the validity of both democracy and the Nation State in direct and flagrant breach of the fundamental Human Right of Self Determination of The People as defined by The UN.

Those are just some examples that leap to mind.

G.L-W.>>A total failure over months, in fact YEARS to present the truth or facts by Skeptyk to substantiate their sordid claims shows them for the cowards and liars they are – even to the extent that when challenged to present the evidence in public to my face where members of the public could openly challenge me has repeatedly failed to meet with acceptance from these vile filth. Clearly Skeptyk are liars.<<

However, since the blog’s creation, my email inbox is regularly full of allegations against certain people, mostly unsubstantiated and as such, I won’t touch them.

G.L-W.>>That Skeptyk are selective in whome they dishonestly defame and lie about is surely no surprise and more of a confession than a defence. Indeed irrefutably Skeptyk has been shown to be both a liar and deliberately dishonest in order to defame.<<


So to answer your question, it is not an attack blog

G.L-W.>>Clearly the nomenclature can be argued about pedanticly by a charlatan to wriggle out from the fact that it is, in common parlance, an attack blog.

It would be equally as trur to describe it as a self serving pack of lies or merely a cowardly and defamatory aggregation of filth speaking volumes of the sick minds of its perverted authors. Again Skeptyk is clearly shown to be dishonest and a liar.<<

– it is there to merely educate people of the background of some of those who make accusations against UKIP because to be frank, people should be made aware of the homophobe who accuses UKIP of homophobia,

G.L-W.>>Again Skeptyk show themselves to be liars in that I am unaware of a single instance of homophobia as he quaintly puts it to comply with Political Correctness to try to score points. I am unaware of such a stance by any of the Junius posters on that blog – and I most certainly have NEVER posted in those terms on mine.

Unlike Skeptyk it is a long and well known FACT that I actively campaigned in favour of the decriminalisation of homosexuality and for various rights for homosexuals.

That UKIP is anti Homosexual has been upheld by The EU Parliament and by The British Courts who found against UKIP and handed down a guilty verdict against them. Further UKIP is part of a Pan EU Political Group that it aids, supports and part finances that is most unashamedly happy to harbour and encourage violent anti homosexuality. Yet again Skeptyk are shown to be liars and dishonest.<<

or the far-right implant who accuses UKIP of being far-right,

G.L-W.>>I have been known to quote from Mrs. Bandaranaika, Margot Walstrom, Mrs Indira Ghandi, Helen Suzmann, Her Majesty The Queen, Ayn Rand, Dorothy Parker – it may come as a surprise to those cowards posting as Skeptyk for UKIP that does not make me a woman of erudity, wit or wisdom any more than postings as examples make those who make the postings Far Right.

Support of The Extreme Far Right is when a party such as UKIp or an individual either supply the extreme far right with such data as membership information or wittingly and willingly actively support extreme far right politics, violent anti homosexuality, anti Judaism, Racism and the like as has UKIP and its leadership team for whatever reason or for whatever reward – there is absolutely no justification  for political prostitution selling out the values and principles of the membership and supporters for money or position however elevated or however much.

Once again we note the lack of morality, failure of ethical understanding, absence of a moral compass and dishonest lies and misrepresentation of those who post as Skeptyk in self interest.<<

or the MEP who’s ‘i don’t work with extremists’ mantra is contradicted by [ snipped ].

G.L-W.>>This is clearly a libel as all with any political knowledge knew this to be an attempt to defame and libel a given MEP and an EU Pool Employee who works with the MEP the employee having had a brief sojourne with the same party as Michael Nattrass MEP one tiome deputy leader of UKIP, Jeffrey Titfford MEP one time leader of UKIP a the brevity of that stay is not only noted but it is also noted that it was for a very brief period after some years of Military service for the Crown.

That the individual rapidly moved on on learning more of politics is worthy of note.

That Nigel Farage MEP, Tom Wise MEP are both habituees of The Swinton Circle which was willing to harbour corruption and would seem clearly to be an overtly racist group of dwinding significance is also worthy of note.

Once again the low lifes that post as Skeptyk are shown to be dishonest and to have lied.<<

At times, my blog’s style of humour has been too personal towards certain individuals which I regret, if I have offended anyone with those, I offer apologies.

G.L-W.>>On this claim I can not claim any depth of knowledge as I have so rarely visited the blog having established long ago that I was unlikely to learn anything of note or merit on the blog as that which I had read showed it to be foul mouthed, offensive, childish, dishonest, sordid, inaccurate, ill informed and extremely damaging to UKIP as it told more of the nature of the leadership of UKIP and their modus operandi than ever could be found plausible in the filth it invented against the decent patriots supporting UKIP and trying desperately to clean it up and make it fit for purpose once more as our lifeboat to Leave-The-EU.

I have however had considerable feedback from individuals of repute and honour as to just how damaging the blog is to UKIP and how it so demeans its sordid authors.

Again Skeptyk are shown to be the scum of the earth acting in ignorant and childish self interest.<<


And as for Tim – look him up in the forum users list, for that is his name.

G.L-W.>>In deed it is his name and like Skeptyk the name is false but unlike Skeptyk for honourable reasons.<<

There is some speculation as to who he is

G.L-W.>>And there are some who are sufficiently trusted to KNOW who it is. Clearly those posting as Skeptyk have shown they can not be trusted on any count as they are liars, cowards and dishonest.<<

– he may convince you that he is a Gerard Batten ‘fan’. He probably couldn’t pick Batten out of an ID parade consisting of 1 person.

G.L-W.>>Please be assured that Tim could pick him out in a random crowd of 1,000 people with ease, it is probable that Tim could pick him out by either voice or siloette alone – even probably by style of speech or the written word and probably by hand writting or hand shake, laugh or gesture.

I wonder if each of those posting as Skeptyk could make that claim! Again Skeptyk’s spin and dishonest inference based on not a single fact, yet again, is made to try to defame but speaks volumes of the dishonesty of Skeptyk.<<

To view the original self serving pack of lies from the maggots Skeptyk CLICK HERE
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#0449* – WHERE UKIP LIARS GATHER TO DISSEMBLE & DEFAME!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/04/2011

#0449* – WHERE UKIP LIARS GATHER TO DISSEMBLE & DEFAME!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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WHERE UKIP LIARS GATHER TO DISSEMBLE & DEFAME!
One will find the usual maggots and parasites in defence of the corrupt and discreditted leadership of UKIP!!

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An Anti-UKIP blog by a member of UKIP

A blog that has been fascinating me for some time is ‘Junius on Ukip’, which by all accounts has been setup by disgruntled members.

Attack blogs detailing sordid details of different political parties have been around for a long time. But they have been usually been run by opposing parties, taking pleasure in some misfortunes, internal strife and rows.
But this one is actually been run by a member who seem to know all the battles, affairs, resignations and financial shennanigans.  
Members of parties who have become disillusioned mainly leave the party. But this blog seems pretty determined to bring the party down.

If only half what is said on this blog is true, then its surprising that the party is barely existing.
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  1. The Junius bloggers are anti-UKIP, they’re not members. At least one of them gets information from the EU and is clearly in their employ. Most of what is written on that hate-blog is entirely made up or takes something that is true, embellishes it so that it’s 90% made up and turns it into a personal attack on someone.
  2. Gary Cartwright
    Hilarious site, isn’t it? It’s all fake news, but I actually get paid to do the job. I work in the European Parliament with former UKIP MEP Nikki Sinclaire. That’s what I do all day long – invent nutty stories about UKIP. I love it.
  3. gillig
    @Gary Cartwright.
    So my tax money goes to you?
    • Anonymous
      I think you two have been fooled. Gary has not posted that nor does he invent stories or have anything to do with the junius blog
  4. Hi,

    I can vouch for the FACT that Junius are supporters of UKIP and if only the parasites and maggots feeding from the crumbs that fall from the troughs on the Gravy Train in self interest supporting UKIP’s utterly venal and completely unprincipled leadership would wake up and clean up UKIP they MIGHT once again provide our lifeboat.

    For as long as you have fools like Stuart Parr, Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller, Gawain Towler and the anonymous cowards UKIP will NEVER be fit for purpose as no party can survive self seeking liars.

    I assure you that the postings claimed to be by Gary are NOT genuine they are the level of childish behaviour EUkip parasites believe to be politics as they try to smear Nikki Sinclaire MEP who has out performed ALL of them.

    My posting is genuine – my phone number is a matter of public record and I will stand by every word I publish in any Court of Law YOU choose.

    My blogs publish provable, honourable FACTS and never ONCE have they been shown to be materially wrong.

    Regards,
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#0424* – What Would Thomas JEFFERSON Have Thought of UKIP?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/04/2011

#0424*  – What Would Thomas JEFFERSON Have Thought of UKIP?
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their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
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What Would Thomas JEFFERSON Have Thought of UKIP?
One would not expect a man of his stature in a small party but surely one has a right to expect every senior member to aspire to his standards!!

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Hi,

as I learned many years ago it is essential when taking a public stance as when one writes a blog or articles in the media to ensure that everything one publishes is accurate, informative, provable and fact.

It is sad that UKIP have not learned this lesson and thus they are just not trusted – how can one gather together a claque of self serving low lifes willing to lie, cheat, abuse and defame and then still expect the public to support you?

I appreciate a percentage of the public CAN be duped by a party like UKIP but UKIP seem not to realise just how relentless an enemy one makes when one lies to gain support and then attacks people who dare to question!

Thomas Jefferson understood this all too well but UKIP has never learned the lesson and has thus made, of some of its most active supporters, implacable enemies CLICK HERE & follow the links!

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“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.”

~Thomas Jefferson.

UKIP quite clearly has a small army of parasites ever willing to bring UKIP into disrepute by their comments and their behaviour – frequently of a vile, ill informed and dishonest nature, hidden by cowards behind anonymity – such as:
Independent UKIP
Skeptyk
Gothmog (William Shaw)
Baron von Lotsov
etc.

or those with no reputation for honesty or integrity worth protecting – such as:
Mick McGough
Douglas Denny
Mark Croucher
Gawain Towler
Annabelle Fuller
Derek Clark
etc.

Sadly the list is long and is a measure of the suitability of UKIP in terms of responsibility and election.

Unless UKIP is cleaned-up and probity, morality, transparency and honesty are held as virtues they are not worthy of a single vote – we can have liars, cheats, fiddlers, fools and the self serving by voting for the 3 professional Parties who I grant are little better but at least they have experience and a structure!

It was said of America that its oldest tradition was its youth!

Sadly UKIP’s seeming ONLY attribute is a sham amateurism seemingly designed for the self agrandisement and enrichment of a small claque – Those best rewarded would seem to be those who are most willing to dissemble and dishonour the principles of the gullible and decent majority in the party.

UKIP’s tragedy is and has always been lack of competent leadership.

There is no doubt that UKIP have in Farage a huge asset but without competent management he all too frequently presents as a huge ass rather than asset.

Sadly UKIP has squandered this asset by making their performer their leader and it is clear he is NOT a leader – hence so very many of the individuals of competence, the activists and the intelligent have so very noticeably quit the party. This has left space for the corrupt, the dishonest, the self seekers and the sycophants and as a result the party is seen as a squabbling nest of vipers.

It is noted that even Stuart Wheeler clearly does not trust the leadership of the party and has put in place efforts to make them behave like adults and the most common claim as to why one should support UKIP is that they are the acceptable face of The BNP and Farage & Croucher made huge efforts to position the party as little more than an alternative to The BNP and a vote to teach Westminster a lesson for its allowances scams in the knowledge that UKIP would not gain a seat at Westminster!

May I submit Thomas Jefferson might well have been commenting on UKIP when he said:

“If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy. … I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.”

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#0414* – UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/04/2011

#0414* – UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs!
 

Yet Glibly TRIES To Sell This EU Scam seemingly designed to assist pro EU Pan EU Political Parties to steam roll opposition in any National Referendums!

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11-Apr-2011 – UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs

Hi,

It is glibly claimed by some of the less intelligent UKIP NEC & Leadership, particularly their more sycophantic and self serving parasites, without any apparent sourcing or reference in support of their claims.

Surely after some 60 years of EU scams and shennanigens they would reasonably expect to engage their brains before putting their mouths in gear and potentially making fools of themselves yet again – they claim that:

‘money granted through participation in Pan EU Political Parties can be used to fight a referendum in the UK (IF WE GET ONE)’

To view this unfounded claim CLICK HERE for UKIP NEC members to sneer and abuse supporters and thus drag the party into their gutter style of sneering behaviour is damaging UKIP as has been UKIP’s manner with the level of idiot they habitually have in their leadership.
Clearly lacking any vestige of intellect or political nouse it would seem UKIP’s only ability is to cover-up their ineptitude with ill manners and lies, such that it is almost impossible and definitely unwise, to believe a word they say, having so consistently been proven either dishonest or just plain wrong!

Barbara Booker takes a more intelligent and reasoned look at this funding endorsing points made in earlier sections on this Blog.!

Has anyone bothered to check if this is true? (the comment by Mick McGough quoted above!)

It’s been generally accepted by not only UKIP spokespeople and EUobserver, but also the Daily Mail and Express, that a rule change now allows Europarties to use their funding to campaign in a referendum on UK membership, even though there appears to be no evidence for this other than Nigel Farage’s word.

As Farage is very keen indeed for members to agree to letting him take UKIP into a Europarty, it would be wise to verify his claims by getting the facts direct from the EP’s Constitutional Affairs Committee (AFCO) and the British Electoral Commission.

The trouble is, we are all very ready to believe claims about the ‘evil’ EU that play to our own prejudices. If those claims are based only on personal interpretation of possibly ambiguous statements translated from another language, it’s very easy to be mistaken. Nigel Farage has made one interpretation of the debate at a recent AFCO meeting; I have made another. As the implications for UKIP’s decision on joining a Europarty are so serious, I urge someone (Trevor Colman? Tim Congdon?) to establish the truth.

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At the AFCO meeting on 14 March rapporteur Marietta Giannakou presented her draft report reviewing the regulations governing Europarties and recommending some changes, including one that would allow these parties to use their funds in referendum campaigns on directly linked EU issues. Current funding rules forbid Europarty participation in any referendum campaigns at all. 

The draft report is at http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdo…5/840655en.pdf and the only references to referendums are at points 16 and 30, and in the third paragraph from the end of section II of the explanatory statement. The contentious wording is at point 30 where, having noted that Europarties can already use their funds to campaign in EP elections, it says:

“they are prohibited from using these sums for financing ‘referenda campaigns’; considers that the reason for this is probably a concern that European parties and foundations could interfere in the domestic affairs of Member States; believes, however that, if European political parties are to play a political role at EU level, they should have the right to participate in such campaigns as long as the subject of the referendum has a direct link with issues concerning the European Union

Amendment 95, put down by Andrew Duff, removed from the draft report the words: “considers that the reason for this is probably a concern that European parties and foundations could interfere in the domestic affairs of Member States”.

Nigel Farage interprets this as allowing Europarties to spend their funding on a national referendum in the UK, a view that was expanded on by Gawain Towler in his blog England Expects on 15 March, reported by EUobserver on 17 March as posted at CLICK HERE, and by the Daily Mail on 19 March (Now MEPs can use UK taxpayers’ cash for propaganda to keep Britain in the EU) and Express on 21 March (Plot to ‘rig’ your EU vote). The similarity between the Mail and Express articles, using several near identical phrases, suggests that both articles may have sprung from the same press release; Stuart Agnew told the Mail that his group in the EP would use its funding to campaign for withdrawal, because “Why should taxpayers’ money just go to fund the “Yes” side?”; now Mick McGough says “this money can be used to fight a referendum in the UK”.

How true is all this? Well, Nigel Farage didn’t even wait for AFCO to vote on the report before rushing out his version and using it to give UKIP a shove towards joining a Europarty. At 6:03am on 15 March he was tweeting away:
“Decision by EP to allow pan euro parties to get involved in national referendums means UKIP must join or money will go to pro EU side”,
followed at 07:13 on Facebook by:
“MEPs in Committee have approved decisions to allow pan european political parties to become involved in national referendums on EU issues. This means that unless UKIP join one the money which we could spend getting our message across will be given to the other side”
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The first untruth is that the “EP” or “MEPs in Committee” had taken a decision. They hadn’t. AFCO had debated the report the day before, but didn’t vote on it until the 10am session on 15 March, some four hours after Farage’s twitter and Facebook posts. The rest of the EP didn’t get to vote on it until the plenary session on 6 April. Even now, there has been no rule change, because the resolution adopted on 6 April was non-legislative. The report is only a request to the Commission to propose a draft statute, which will then have to go all through the EP procedures again for consideration and amendment before becoming law. In the meantime, Europarties are still prohibited from involvement in referendums.

The second untruth is that the report calls for Europarties to become involved in “national” referendums. It doesn’t. It doesn’t even mention national referendums. It talks about Europarties’ role “at EU level”, so it would seem logical and not unreasonable that pan-EU parties would want to become involved in pan-EU referendums. Giannakou herself, when interviewed recently said: “EU parties would be allowed to take part only in those referenda campaigns directly connected to European issues, for example on a change of treaty”.

We also know from Sharon Ellul Bonici’s e-mail last October CLICK HERE that the European Alliance for Freedom (the Europarty UKIP would be joining) is planning to call for a referendum under the new Citizens’ Initiative: “one of the first campains we can engage ourselves in is to generate 1 million signatures to be able to instigate a pan wide European referendum on Turkey. The idea is to use the million signature clause according to the Lisbon Treaty”.

As the law stands at present, they could use their funds to petition for a referendum, but not to campaign in the referendum itself. It’s hardly surprising that MEPs want this situation changed.

Viewed like this, that the report has nothing to do with purely national referendums and only seeks involvement in pan-European ones, Duff’s amendment 95 would have been aimed simply at removing unwarranted fears over EU intervention rather than, as Gawain Towler suggests, brushing aside EU recognition that it shouldn’t interfere in domestic affairs.

A third untruth, at least under current British electoral law, is that Europarty funds can be used in a UK referendum campaign. Gawain Towler touches on this: “money donated to the Lib Dem Euro political party, by someone living in France, could be used to fund a pro-European referendum campaign in the UK by washing it through the European Political Party. In direct contravension of British electoral law, but so be it”.

He is right, of course, but the same would apply if the donor living in another EU country had given money to UKIP’s Europarty. Before UKIP members get pushed too far down the Europarty road, advice should be sought from the Electoral Commission on the implications of a possible change in EU law. Europarties, which by their nature accept donations from non UK residents, would presumably have to register as political parties here in order to become permitted participants in UK referendums. What would be ElCom’s view on this?

Finally, even if such electoral hurdles were cleared it is by no means certain that Farage, Agnew, McGough, etc. are right in saying that UKIP could use Europarty money to fight for withdrawal in a UK referendum.

It cannot be emphasized too strongly that no EU funds would be available to UKIP itself. The money would go to the Europarty, to campaign in the referendum (if that was allowed) on whatever stance the Europarty took on EU withdrawal. Since other Europarty members are in favour of EU membership, and since they would be aware that winning a UK referendum would mean the loss of UKIP from the EP, quite possibly resulting in their Europarty’s collapse, how can we be so sure they wouldn’t want to campaign for the ‘stay in’ side?

Turkeys voting for their own demise at Christmas is one thing. Agreeing to fund the slaughterhouse is something else!

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#0406* – UKIP’s RACISM SPILLS INTO THE PUBLIC ARENA

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/04/2011

#0406* – UKIP’s RACISM SPILLS INTO THE PUBLIC ARENA
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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UKIP’s RACISM SPILLS INTO THE PUBLIC ARENA!
Godfrey BLOOM MEP Describes An African Leader as a BABOON!

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Hi,

sadly in the Strasbourg plenary earlier this week UKIP’s racism spilt out for all to see.

As Google shows:

  1. Gawain Towler (GawainTowler) on Twitter

    Cameron “a super-annuated schoolboy whistling in the dark – #UKIP Bloom http://t .co/NuX0iJn @goddersukip Mugabe a “homicidal baboon” about 4 hours ago via
    twitter.com/gawaintowlerCachedSimilar

The party was little helped when their own press officer Gawain Towler seemingly drew as many people’s attention to it as possible, with all the good taste the fool had when he was boasting of his indiscriminate sexuality on his own blog some time ago and his own wife was posting on his family blog of his sexual antics with his daughter in the bath – that led to his deselection as a candidate by the UKIP South West Committee.

Astonishingly Nigel Farage completely over ruled the democratic process of his own party and dictatorially reinstated him giving him a highly salaried position as a UKIP Press Officer! Just the sort of pond life anyone could be proud of as a spokesman!

Now we have, if Gawain Towler is to be believed the imbecilic Godfrey Bloom with his foot in his mouth yet again!

Whatever a politician may think it ill becomes them when representing others in a hugely over paid role as a Massively Expensive Parasite to let ones own outright racism show with an unprincipled and utterly irresponsible comment as he did!

Last year Godfrey Bloom as a UKIP MEP was censured by The President of The EU Parliament for his ‘homophobic’ attacks on Nikki Sinclaire MEP who then took UKIP to Court and won a Guilty verdict against UKIP, Godfrey Bloom and Nigel Farage for wrongfull dismissal which they had made clear was on sexual grounds.

Then earlier this year Godfrey Bloom made a complete fool of himself in the eyes of most people by chanting Nazi slogans in an attack on a German politician – for which he was fined under Parliamentary rules.

Now again he has irresponsibly and tastelessly overstepped the mark as the corrupt and dishonest Gawain Towler pointed out.

This time it was outright racist to call the Zimbabwean Despot Roberty Mugabe a ‘homicidal baboon’.

Does anyone believe he would have used such a comment of any country other than an African by such a soubriquette?

Had Bloom been a genuine politician in British politics he would have been charged by now under the race relations laws for likening an African to a baboon.

Surely we would expect The BNP MEPs to have been charged had they made such an outrageous comment.

That Godfrey Bloom may be British he is we must remember amongst the extremist gutter sweepings of EU politics and supporting the overtly racist and xenophobic Pan EU Political Party EFD Group.

Is UKIP under its present leadership with the trash that consistently is to be found in its press department not now clearly past its sell by date?

Let us see if The EFD Chairman, despite his waning credibility, openly censure Bloom for his despicable behaviour yet again.

Then can we see a level playing field legally and Bloom brought to book for his racist comments as you or I would have been had we made such derogatory comments about Africans or an African.

Homicidal is merely a statement of opinion and in real terms Robert Mugabe is not responsible for as many deaths as can be laid at the door of Anthony Charles Lynton Blair and his lies, though on crimes against humanity the winner between the two is a moot point – though I doubt Godfrey Bloom would consider calling Blair a ‘homicidal baboon’!.

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#0206* – Julian ADAMS Remanded in Custody & The Filth That is UKIP Leadership

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/12/2010

#0206* – Julian ADAMS Remanded in Custody & The Filth That is UKIP Leadership
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Julian ADAMS Remanded in Custody to appear again on 30-Dec-2010!
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Hi,

sorry didn’t find much time and the Court wasn’t covered by the usual stringers as none of the papers seem to have felt a story about UKIP worth covering – all too common! I understand that Justin Adams was remanded in custody until 30-Dec-2010 – a search on this blog in the search box at the top of the Right Sidebar will take you to other articles on the matter as will reading The Farage Blog CLICK HERE.

I was amused to get a phone call to tell me that the idiotic Skeptyk having struggled endlessly with their collective brain cell these cowards wisely hide their unpleasant largely dishonest postings in cowardly insecurity. It seems whether the proven liar and dishonourable Mark Croucher, the foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller who I understand manages Farages FaceBook and other items (so I am told but can not confirm), Clive Page, Ray Finch, Gawain Towler who much cares I for one do not read their stuff often and only once bothered to visit their sordid and dishonest web shite as it is clearly largely lies and needlessly vile.

Whatever – clearly not one of the people who have drawn the title of contributor to Septic but it is all too clear they are ashamed of their contribution and make no claim to contribute to it. No surprise there then!

you will note these pond life who choose not to be associated one with the other in their damage to UKIP for their own gain – they to date, despite distortion and misrepresentation have proved completely incapable of identifying a single solitary deliberately misleading posting I have made – nor a single accidental lie let alone deliberate lie of consequence. This does not however prevent them dragging UKIP into their gutter of lies and distortions – of course they can take it in turns to deny they are one or other of the contributors!

Clearly in acting as a whistle blower (a concept UKIP’s leaderships seems not to understand) leads those posting as Junius and supplying the information, often through me as I do know that those in Junius do not know who each contributor is, thus I can supply facts to one without the other knowing which is handy – as with Geoffrey Collier’s version of Farage’s begging letter. May I add – as I said in handling the letter I did NOT notice the poor redaction so  be fair I can not confirm it came from G.C. – though I am prepared to accept the irrelevant clever Dick comments of the childishly named Baron and Septic team. Of course G.C. has confirmed it was his copy.

Since this letter was, I assume, mailed out to each member who Farage’s team believe they can boost money out of – he had rather better hope they will donate more than he Farage has in 17 years!

I also gather the cowardly Septic team in desperation to denigrate me and clearly aware they can not find a single lie I have told in almost 15 years of supporting UKIP and exposing the lies and corruption of its leadership team that have ensured they may well have acquired £Millions they have never clearly accounted how they have seemingly stolen it nor have they achieved anything whatsoever to move these United Kingdoms one inch closer to the door – that Farage whether dressed as a chicken, drunk in gutters, habituating testicular cancer – blowing up toys, posturing in armoured cars on trailers – Just what HAS UKIP leadership done of ANY value to Britain as they betrayed our country for personal gain.

Perhaps someone can point me at the serious and well reasoned exit and survival strategy UKIP’s indollent leadership has produced.

Perhaps someone can aim us at a single well produced and clear reasoned pamphlet showing the benefits of leaving the EU.

All one can see is filth like Sceptic, scum like Croucher, trash like Fuller, fraudsters like Page, deviants like Towler, fantasists like Denny, liars like McTrough and insecure little men like Farage with no dignity, no breeding, no gravitas and the respect of no one of consequence – a trained performing monkey attracting more articles and column inches for his sad personality and insecurity manifest through drink and phillandering.

All that fools like Baron, Independent, Septic and the trash that are UKIP’s leadership can do is abuse its members befoul the name of UKIP and ensure that its supporters are provided with ZERO campaigning, nil vision and a total lack of training or leadership.

Imagine just how vile UKIP leadership and its parasites have become that it drives away donors, activists, supporters, grafters and all they are left with are posturing little men of no consequence and less ability.

Not only are UKIP leadership and its parasites the McTroughs, Dennys, Reeves, Smiths, Buftons and their ilk useless, self serving, dishonest and corrupt but they have gone out of their way to sweep the gutters of EUropean politics to gather all that is filth to join them that they can!

Would the likes of Junius, Warry, West, myself, Collier make such efforts to try to clean up UKIP to make it possibly electable were we other than UKIP supporters disgusted by the behaviour of its leadership and parasites – I believe we would more readily have walked away by now had our support and dedication been less – even Mike Nattrass has already miked off for his Christmas holiday!

Look at the long list of supporters driven off by the crass incompetence of the leadership and its parasites and the completely embarrassing incompetent behaviour of the trash of UKIP management they are clearly a part of the problem and absolutely no part of the solution look at the short list of those who left – decent hard working individuals of substance and ability CLICK HERE replaced by scum like Septic, Denny, Croucher, Towler, Mctrough, Coleman, Andreasen, Bannerman, Agnew, Booth, Nuttall, Bufton, Dartmouth/Legge – not a leader amongst them – not a man of stature in sight – not an individual of ability not one has shone through as anything of ANY value the sweepings of failure!

Their only way to raise themselves from the gutter would seem to be to try to damage others and drag them into their gutter.

May I remind individuals of integrity, probity and dignity that for all their thrashing around – having rooted and routed their way through my entire history they have not found a single item of consequence they can hold up to defame me with one iota of integrity.

Desperately they distort and lie – yes I have a conviction under section one firearms from 30 years ago when an American girlfriend accidentally imported a hand gun and 50 rounds of ammo – SO WHAT!

Then these cowards misrepresent the fact that based on an unsound report of the BBC relative to an assault on a Swerdish politician I commented to try to bring the matter of opposition to The EUro onto the front page of a Broadsheet paper for the very first time – that the politician SUBSEQUENTLY died was a tragedy, but the real offence is that the trash in UKIP and similar set out to exploit that tragedy for their personal gain.

Now we have the filth that shelters in shame as Septic trying to pretend I would threaten to kill Farage or try to talk Justin Adams to do so – it clearly surprises Septic since who the hell would wish to associate with such filth as they, in fact they are so ashamed of their behaviour that they hide their identity – yet they have so little understanding of morality, integrity and trust that they can not understand why people who seek to clean up UKIP contact me on a regular basis. Yes Justin Adams phone me – it is not for me to divulge why other than to have made the comments which he was happy for me to repeat regarding the behaviour of Farage and his personal injuries. Yet filth like Septic seek to distort this fantasising and seeking to imply my actions were anything other than 100% honourable.

It is interesting when I published the facts of Farage’s behaviour in the plane and subsequent to the crash that his fan club were unwilling to publicise this – nor on the many occasions when I have pointed out Farage’s abilities (limited as they are) nor are they able to show that I am or have ever been a supporter of UKIP – risibly they even pretend I am pro EU membership the scum that they are.

The trash in UKIP have lied and tried to portray my business as having gone bankrupt when it in fact closed when EU money was squandered by our Labour Council in the trashing of Chepstow in a manner that destroyed the shopping center at a time when I was battling to recover from major organ cancer – what brave liars the UKIP trash are!

Glance Back Books carried around 60,000 secondhand and antiquarian titles, 2M stamps, 60,000 postcards, 10,000 collectors coins, worldwide & antique banknotes, about 75,000 antiquarian prints and maps also documents back to the 1400s , we own the building, I have no debts, we sold another building we owned to fund our own defence against the lies of UKIP leaving us owed £12,500 by UKIP by any moral standards, Mark Croucher acting with Paul Nuttall and Clive Page LOST their attempt to bankrupt me in The British Courts and Mark Croucher was ordered by the Court to pay me £8,500 and the dishonourable piece of filth that he is has not honoured debt or the Courts!

Further I have NEVER made a single political posting in any name but my own – even on Forums and YouTube I ensure I can be identified and I will stand by my word on every issue ALWAYS willing to make correction if I EVER accidentally post something untrue.

I note another coward using anonymity behind which to lie has stated:

Lance-Watkins tends to aim to deceive of course but I see he has been allowed to comment by his europhile Junius friends as follows:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl…01132934927657

Hi,

May I make a public apology to Geoffrey Collier as it seems in handling the letter that Junius has published I failed to note the redaction was inadequate and I am pleased to say I used the copy I received through membership elsewhere!

Regards,
Greg_L-W
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I refute this cowardly critics lies – I have NEVER ONCE aimed to deceive ANYONE in my life but identifying a coward hidden by anonimity ashamed of his own postings as a liar is a fairly fruitless effort! Rather like standing in something unpleasant it is wise to scrape it off one’s shoe and move on.

You will be aware that Douglas Denny has habitually lied about me, about Niall Warry and about himself to seem important – you will also be aware that I have offered again and again to meet liars like Douglas Denny, david Bannerman, Stuart Agnew and the rest of the trash that have destroyed UKIP and dragged it in their gutter – just how far must they be seen to go:

You will note it was he who published his boasts of his own perverse sexual behaviour and his wife whose exposure of his far more grave perversions were published on her web site when he was deselected by The South West committee – including the risible Elizabeth Burton in her dottage – only to be completely ignored by Farage as democracy and minimum standards are not in UKIP’s lexicon just as they have no plan, no training, no morality, no probity, no transparency, no leadership just the solids that have floated to the top in a particularly unsavoury Septic tank of filth that are the parasites exploiting UKIP and betraying and destroying their moral and principled origins and membership base where the majority of informed morality have already quit in disgust!

 
Has UKIP ever won a Court Case other than appeal against their own stupidity – yet they still have a number of outstanding cases against them under investigation – they are a profligate farce – How could ANYONE with ANY integrity advocate that a single Patriot vote for their lies, chavvery and self serving abuse of supporters and these United Kingdoms for their own gain.
 
How does UKIP manage to attract such scum yet seemingly deliberately force out those of competence CLICK HERE.

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