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#583* – SkepTyke & BUTCHER’s CORRUPT FORUM

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/07/2009

#583* – SkepTyke & BUTCHER’s CORRUPT FORUM

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!


Today, 02:12 PM #116 (permalink)
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 152
Party: UKIP
Since when has Whatkins become the guardian of Piers Merchant? Merchant’s illness is genuinely tragic but we do not need Whatkins’ sympathies which are so moving, they bring tears to a glass eye. Especially when Whatkins has referred to Piers as “discredited Tory the Peering Merchant pole dancing consultant to Farage’s arch enemy Roger Knapman”.

This can be viewed here – Another Greg Watkins email Part 1

Nice try Whatkins, we all know what you think

What an ‘e’Mail from 6th. September by me has to do with either Butcher’s corrupt little Forum or Piers Merchant is beyond me, but no doubt Skeptyke will have some convoluted logic! His offensive comments trying to make capital out of Piers Merchant’s terminal cancer do rather leave a bad taste in the mouth since I have no right or ability to post on the Forum by demand of EUkip and dishonesty on the part of Paul Nuttall, Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore.

Here is the header this chap gives:

British Democracy Forum
Home Today’s Posts
UKIP>Another Greg Watkins email Part 1
junius 02:15 PM 05-09-2008
This is the one I meant to post:

Clearly rather confusing as I don’t think Junius came into being until the web site was introduced in December 2008! However perhaps one of its present contributors may have been using the name before the blog started.

Anyway here is the blog showing what Skeptyke posted with the addition of the material he chose to cut!

What it has to do with Piers Merchant I struggle to deduce!

May I also add that I have not, as I recall, made reference to ‘Piers Merchant as ‘The Peering Merchant Pole Dancing Consultant to Roger Knapman’ for a considerable time – in fact since Roger Knapman became all but politically inactive and an irrelevance. Piers was, if I am not mistaken, only the butt of lampoon in his relationship to the vaguelly idiotic and shambolic Knapman.

Further despite SkepTyke’s rather unpleasant attempt to capitalise on Piers’ misfortune – what ever I may think of someone (and actually I found certain areas of Piers’ efforts far above the callibre of day to day EUkip) Piers has terminal cancer and having major organ cancer and subsequent disability resultant I can empathise with Piers’ plight possibly more readily than some of the particularly unpleasant EUkip devotees – as with John Moran who I also wish well but hold in utter contempt.

That aside it is good of Skeptyke to provide such a timely example of the facts that I have been publishing over the years and the even more flattering that he has not only kept them to hand but has provided an example which shows – even with hind sight – just how accurate they were both in fact and prediction!

Unfortunately I am dishonestly denied the opportunity to bring facts and answers to many of the questions on Anthony Butcher’s corrupt little forum, due in the main to the outright dishonesty of several proven liars amongst EUkip’s leadership – particularly the lies and dishonesty of Paul Nuttall, in his vicious and underhand attack on Anthony Butcher and the shamefull weakness and willingness of Butcher to collude in dishonesty, lies and corruption.

I have removed the graphic header which I provided, launched and promoted for EUkip as once the publicly started to copy the design themselves I was begged by Zucherman acting in his capacity as ‘chairman of EUkip friends of Israel’ or party secretary, or secretary to Rachel Oxley, well known as legal consultant to EUkip or some such – not to continue promoting the design I had launched.

The bit in red here is the header which Skeptyke opted to remove:

—–Original Message—–

From: Glanceback [] On Behalf Of Greg Lance Watkins
Sent: 04 September 2008 06:58
Subject: #321 – MOVING FORWARD EUkip Caterpillars or Butterflies!

Hey – Its My Rant! – My Country is being betrayed?DO NOT MISTAKE THIS eMAIL for an Official EUkip communication,just because they have recently decided to rehash their web site using a similar concept to the Letter Head I’ve been using for over a monthbefore they used a similar copy in public. I do very little printing so what a mess it looks in Black & White didn’t concern meI guess EUkip didn’t think of that when they copied it!Seemingly in an attempt to discredit me! Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
From The Ugly Corruption of The EUkip Caterpillars on The EU Gravy Train toThe Fragile Hope of UKIP Butterflies YOU Have The Freedom to Choose Butterflies or Caterpillars?

MOVING FORWARD EUkip Caterpillars or Butterflies!!

British Democracy Forum
Home Today’s Posts
UKIP>Another Greg Watkins email Part 1
junius 02:15 PM 05-09-2008
This is the one I meant to post:

MOVING FORWARD EUkip Caterpillars or Butterflies!!


sorry it is a bit thin this evening as the phone has been very busy with regular bulletins as to who had lunch with whom and how Declan Ganley was with Nigel Farage and the progress as Bonde stuck like **** to a blanket to his new checkbook – then there was the opening of the new offices in Strasburgh on Tuesday and the lunch meeting with much the same outcome as the one in London last week. Then of course with all the information in the Irish Papers who seem strangely to have ignored Nigel Farage and EUkip, probably taking their lead from The Irish Times when it printed:
He is similarly unconcerned by the prospect of Declan Ganley’s Libertas fielding EU-critical candidates across the Continent in next year’s elections to the European parliament, seeing parallels with the UK Independence Party (UKIP).

“No matter how slick and brilliant [ UKIP leader] Nigel Farage is, the party has become a complete footnote with no influence.”

I wonder what will be in the Telegraph column and that of a certain German Paper about the Wednesday lunch?

Enough of giving you a guessing game to ensure my various sources are not exposed – suffice to say it is always easier to fight a well trained army than an amateur army of volunteers and Libertas is very much an amateur army and as yet unpredictable. However as Nigel Farage will be aware from his readings on World War I history and that which he learned from his Father and his Military career – No conventional Army has ever won against a well trained, well armed and dedicated guerilla force in the history of man! As he is finding out as he watches the party he took over dwindle from over 2,000 delegates to The Colston Hall in the City Centre of Bristol in 2004 to what he has reduced it to in the South Coast holiday resort of Bournemouth out of season in 2008.

What an achievement in just a couple of years of his leadership.

I gather the theme of this years conference is to be:


I gather all delegates are to be asked to move forward when they arrive as it is so much easier for the photographer if a few rows at the front a filled.

I notice that the MOVING FORWARD Conference is to open with an Official – conference opening whose job I understand as an Official is to Block any Candidates they have decided to deselect from the selected list for candidates who were suitable.

I also understand that the Official will be using sniffer dogs to find any leaks, however due to the average age of the delegates this may prove an overwhelming task and they may have to content themselves with debarring elected candidates they don’t/daren’t have on the NEC.

Monday’s meeting of the NEC will be amusing as I understand that Wittaker is standing down as Chairman at the conference, probably being a politician to spend more time with someone’s family! and so it will be a new Chairman on Monday – presumably the legal genius who is currently giving her opinion to all on the intricacies of the Data Protection Act etc. – I presume she is also a legal expert on the printing security calibre of P&P Marketing & Distribution which I note undertakes overseas contract printing, and is just up the road in Stockport, but is actually NOT P&P Marketing & Distribution but a limited company with a different name but a unique number! #02537014 which I am told is late with its accounts and like Mike McGough I have people check these things but rather hopefully do not draw the wrong conclusions or seek to dishonestly besmirch the name of an honest and enthusiastic supporter of UKIP and its patriotic aim to leave the EU as it used to be. Anyway as I recall the company was owned by what seems to be a Father & Daughter by the name of Atkinson who seemingly have 2 shares.

Then of course there could be more than a coincidental relationship with Speedwell Litho of Eastleigh which seemingly is owned by a Father & son presumably with 2 shares but you can check in the morning if you phone 0238 – 061 2486 perhaps you would care to give them some printing work as they seemingly can I understand lay off printing to overseas contract printers also.

I’m sure many of you will remember a company called Ashford Employment Ltd. Which also coincidentally had two directors who had minimal shares.

Astonishing isn’t it how EKip are drawn to companies with similar structures The first one is the printer and distributor of the ballot papers used by EUkip and its members for the recent preselection of MEPs, which seemingly so many have doubts about – there are of course many ways or rigging an election which is why entire regions wanted the election run by The Electoral Commission as clearly they didn’t trust the leadership – personally based on their track record of corruption that is hardly surprising.

We all know the last leadership elections were corrupt, we are used to returning Officers with no integrity, we have watched corrupt ex cops get their rewards on MEP lists for their corruption, we can clearly see the NEC is dysfunctional, we know the NEC has been rigged, we are aware Andrew Smith deliberately misled the Electoral Commission, we are aware he failed disgracefully to acquit his claimed ability as an accountant, we know Farage has parachuted in a foreigner as a carpet bagger and paid her a ridiculous salary & expenses to make himself look good when she isn’t even anti membership of the EU nor on the electoral role in Britain, we watched the dishonest rigging of the process to make sure Robin Page was blocked from inclusion, we note the so called returning officer openly admits he hadn’t the authority to acquit his duty yet he lacked the integrity to resign, we are aware that Farage was livid that Paul Nuttal hadn’t been PUT top on his list and had a shouting match with the discredited Tory the Peering Merchant pole dancing consultant to Farage’s arch enemy Roger Knapman etc. etc.

Bye the bye I gather already Gregg Beaman has been dumped well I guess that although he was the electorates choice he wasn’t Farage’s so what shifted him, one can not imagine, but hypothetically if you were a Regional Organiser with a pretty laid back job on a grossly over funded EU remuneration scam would you choose a loss of salary on the off chance EUkip might get any MEPs in next June!

By the way if that was how Gregg Beaman was ousted to suit Farage and the electorate ignored will this apply to John Bufton who although he is on Roger’s payroll is in reality Regional Organiser for Wales – does it mean he too, being an employee funded by the EU, must stand down?

That precedent would of course move Steve Harris up to second place (seems its only first place that you can’t be on the staff) so the foreign carpet bagger who was PUT in at second to raise Farage’s chances in the face of the possibility of being squeezed by Declan Ganley – who is pro EU and thus has absolutely no deal to offer EUkip and considers EUkip to be a spent force of no significance – well if he stands then Farage will need every trick in his very large book of ‘trix’ to get even himself back on the gravy train let alone anyone else in EUkip as an MEP.

Then of course even though Bannerman was PUT top in the area he chose to carpet bag he too would be inelligible – not just because he is a liar, a cheat and a cad but also because he is employed by EUkip. Do we know which name Bannerman will be using yet having lied through his teeth about his ancestry to fraudulently deceive and look good.

You will note on one sheet of paper even EUkip’s departing chairman doesn’t know who he really is and uses names like something out of a phone book! The man who never was (in his own lunch box!) seeks to curry favour by claiming Indian birth, well registration of his birth in Bombay – who his parents were no one knows it seems as there is no way he can be the descendent of the Prime Minister Campbell-Bannerman as he had absolutely no progent and he had no relation called Campbell Bannerman – it may be pure affectation for fraudulent purposes and is this why he never made his birth certificate available when asked to produce it – clearly this dishonest little man is not who he says he is and a quick check on Google proved his CLAIMED CV to be iffy, as I pointed out at the time, when he was first parachuted in to EUkip as a crony of Farage’s having failed to get anywhere in the Tory Party. A man clearly unfit for public office and again EUkip is scraping the barrel.

I gather EUkip’s NEC minutes secretary is so disgusted with the mismanagement and corrupt handling of the process she has resigned and immediately before the announcement of results little Chocolate Button was so scared he might have to go straight back to his BT shop job without even a go at the election (which he realises he stands virtually no chance of winning and expects to lose to the BNP) he was threatening to sue EUkip because members he believed to be working for Farage were actively campaigning against him to parachute in the joke candidate who came second in the end!

THE BALANCE OF THE ‘e’Mail which, hidden behind his silly name Skeptyke failed to post and I can find nothing there alluding to Piers Merchant’s ill health either was as follows:

You might also have noticed one of Farage’s ‘Trix’ has rather cattily opened the bag and published what seems to be his selection list when all are unconvincingly assured he has not turned Trix into another role under him for which she will be paid!

Its endless – so anyone falling asleep at the back:


Then of course there is Speedwell Litho – well they publish the Farage Feste comic for EUkip that publishes slander against those Farage wishes to see denigrated whilst running his picture almost as often as EUkip’s rehashed web site, reinforcing the image that EUkip is just a one trick pony! (By the way has EUkip Scotland closed down? Something dire has happened to its web site and I KNOW of EUkip members in Scotland who have resigned – that can’t leave many!)

To fill the spaces please:

I’m puzzled wasn’t there much vaunting of the new EUkip film that was to be launched at the conference? Well darned if I can see a slot where that fits in – perhaps they realised they wouldn’t get away with a cobbled together series of pictures of Farage, Party staff & members with Farage protesting about The Maastricht Treaty – someone probably told them it was over – it didn’t worry them producing an expensive film cobbled together opposing the New Constitution Lisbon Treaty and releasing the protest when it was a done deal!

Oh well I had hoped they might build up some mystery and excitement for all those sheltering from the rain in Bournemouth – even that they got wrong! Wittaker in one of his last actions as Chairman promised glorious sunshine for the weekend in his recent desperation to drum up a few more people to attend because it is going to look pretty catastrophic comparing Nigel Farage’ Conference in 2008 with the one Roger & Petrina ran in Bristol in 2004!!

I see that Tim Condom has promised to turn up to Geoffrey Kingscott’s meeting on the Thursday evening – I wonder if he will be man enough to turn up this time as he was bullied into not supporting the members last time he promised to turn up! He will probably be OK at this intimate little gathering! Then on the Friday he is speaking at 4.30 to the others in that meeting – I wonder if he ACTUALLY knows what happened over Northern Rock and the real role that Poulson played in this and then the desperate trip to China to try to raise more money to keep afloat from the Sovereign Trusts and then the placing of a Director of the Government Bank of China on the board of Barclays etc. It will be interesting if he is doing a rehash of the Government story or the facts.

I note they have Almost a Celebrity on the morning shift! After A Lifetime of Night-Time it WILL be a surprise to see him up that early 😉 (Well have YOU read his biography?) Tim Akers could be good value but his slot is in the dozey shift just after the tea break. I do suggest you try to get to the UKNational Defence Association if you aren’t already a member as it could be interesting but if you don’t want to forego lunch I’d suggest you sneak out after Willoughby de Broke’s slot as anyone who has been in the Party for a while will have heard Farage’s speech though I’m not sure yet which one he is doing.

In view of the atrocious weather I expect quite a few people with a long drive home will leave after Tim Condon’s 15 minutes of fame

Those who are staying on for the Buffet Dinner or to listen to John Bingley on Arcane Law vs. Corpus Juris or whatever I suggest you stay on the night and make an early start home in the morning as there doesn’t seem to be anything much worth listening to on the Saturday – Nothing on the Constitution Lisbon Treaty, Nothing on the EU elections (which should have started by now but if EUkip is to stand a chance they still have to run an honest and fair selection process members trust – FIRST!), there seems to be no one addressing important issues with any gravitas such as Power and how will we run with power outs from 2012, What is Britain’s exit & survival strategy, Agriculture Fishing & how will we feed ourselves, Dealing with Declan & can we survive another Tory Party etc. etc.

In fact looking down the Saturday list it is so underwhelming I was surprised not to see Albert giving a dissertation on the efficacy of the trial & hanging of Heath in absentis, or Gerrish & his coven on paranoia – in fact the Saturday looks quite drab and even Bob Feel-Martinis will have gone ending his efforts to drive people into the arms of the BNP as sanctuary in a moderate haven!

I did wonder if I should be there at 3.15, just in case, as I might get awarded something for launching the EUkip web site letter head and the slogan Freedom to Choose – to remind people that as the Irish Times said:
He is similarly unconcerned by the prospect of Declan Ganley’s Libertas fielding EU-critical candidates across the Continent in next year’s elections to the European parliament, seeing parallels with the UK Independence Party (UKIP).

“No matter how slick and brilliant [ UKIP leader] Nigel Farage is, the party has become a complete footnote with no influence.”

I must say I’m quite proud of the number of slogans I’ve given EUkip or shared in inventing over the years and they have ALL done really well for the party – lets face it ‘Freedom to Choose will be just as important as members choose whether to clean up the party and let the Butterflies emerge and take it over or to kill it off leaving it in the hands of the corrupt & the caterpillars – probably the most important slogan to date.

On the subject of cleaning up the party – I almost forgot – THE THIRD COMPANY!
Ashford does anyone know who did pocket the Hundreds of Thousands of Pounds that were raised by Moran, Farage & the other 2 Directors?
As part of cleaning up EUkip to make it electable:
Has anyone explained what happened to the £250,000+ of tax payers money that was acquired in the name of the petition that never took place or did that actually vanish in someone’s pocket?

Then there was the £158,000 that was seemingly laundered through Wales but never explained so did that go in someone’s pocket?

Also the £211,000 from Farage’s office declared implausibly as ‘Other Expenses’ (more than 50% of the income) no wonder having the office accounts done cost £6,000 & the accountant has never worked for EUkip since! Did that money just go in someone’s pocket?

We still await the Judicial Review for the dishonesty of Andrew Smith, Nigel Farage, David Lott and others who have been found guilty of electoral dishonesty in Court still risking technical bankruptcy if made to forfeit the full £350,000+ and pay costs – how stupid are they!

Then of course there is the money raised through the Ramsgate con centre on Andreasen’s watch that she claimed to know nothing about yet still signed off the accounts – is that WHY she is paid £36,000 a year and expenses to live in Spain – so as not to see what is going on – what actually happened to the money? Did that go into someone’s pocket?

Then we have the new Surrey based newspaper for which the NEC hasn’t even been consulted and clearly that can be a major money spinner and just look at the spivs associated with that – who is accounting for that someone part time on another £36,000 & expenses living in Libya?

I note Hugh Williams has re-emerged in the South West having been chucked out when he was a branch chairman for colluded in dishonesty with Malcolm Wood betraying his branch. Wood managed to save his own highly paid EU job but has had to lie and cheat on a pretty regular basis then and since.

Perhaps I should stay on for 3.15 as it can hardly be argued that I haven’t done a huge amount for UKIP to try to clean up EUkip and in acting as a news letter and conduit between the leadership, NEC & staff and the members and media, making sure that they are kept informed.

Perhaps EUkip might care to recognise the efforts and risks taken in exposing Tom Wise and the due diligence in ensuring he was arrested and the documentary evidence provided that has ensured he remains on bail till the 29th. October when EUkip took no realistic action and he remained both a member and an MEP until he was arrested protected by collusion in his criminality as reported by the leadership, and all of the NEC at the time – leading in part to the resignation of The Chairman Petrina Holdsworth, Ian Gillman, Jill Chant, Linda Guest, Anthony Butcher, Richard Suchorzewski from the NEC and the loss of 1,000s of members due to the bad publicity perpetuated in no small measure by the dishonesty and corruption of Trevor Colman in shameful abuse of his Queens Commission that once granted him a senior rank in the police! And of course the dishonesty of Piers Merchant (to be expected) in presenting the report when Trevor was not man enough to lie for himself!

Just a small example of how the Party MUST be cleaned up.

I understand that one of the details every candidate had to present was their voter’s registration roll number and another was that every candidate must have a proposer and no one may propose two candidates – Perhaps Christopher Gill, having dishonestly supervised this selection and failed totally in acquitting his duty even down to running away and becoming unavailable when he realised his incompetence to do the job and then presiding over a criminal breech of the Data protection Act which WILL end up with EUkip in Court in February – April next year most likely and then dishonestly misrepresenting the truth on a public Tory Forum – Perhaps he would be so good as to advise what is the Electoral Role Number of Marta Andreasen as she is a resident of Barcelona Spain and a foreign National and Tim Worstall who was domicile in Portugal. Perhaps he would explain how Lord Pearson comes to be the proposer of both candidates in breech of the rules.

I presume he will be debarring both candidates if this is true as he claims NO VARIANCE is acceptable & has debarred Robin Page for breech of the rules where in that case it was as a result of following the instructions of salaried EU/EUkip/IDG sataff working for EUkip.

Following this I presume to ensure fairness that ALL candidates running in more than one area who failed to inform the voters was in breech of the rules and will in the interests of integrity be debarred.

I understand a rigid rule of the selection process was provision of a CRB – Perhaps you can advise how Marta Andreasen provided a CRB since she is not only an alien being Danish born, Argentinian Married and a Spanish resident and thus not eligible for a CRB check.

Perhaps whilst on the subject of credibility Christopher Gill can provide proof as to who the chap known by a combination of names David Bannerman & Campbell. Please can Christopher Gill show proof of this shoddy chap has a birth certificate and that YOU have seen it and advise officially who he is BEFORE tossing him out of EUkip if he is NOT the nephew of The Late Liberal Prime Minister Campbell Bannerman or great nephew which he dishonestly and duplicitously claimed to be when he wheedled his way into EUkip having also been a notable failure in the Tories.

I feel sure the members of the Party wish to see their party made electable commencing with it being cleaned up – I presume Christopher Gill & Piers Merchant will have the integrity to resign both their office and their membership of the Party for having colluded in corruption by failing to acquit the duty they accepted and having dishonourably covered up corruption. Neither will be ANY loss to UKIP as it is essential to present integrity fr4om the top down, their behaviour has been both corrupt and dishonourable bringing the Party and its election and selection process into disrepute.

Failure to clean up the party and screwing honest people seemingly at every turn has destroyed EUkip and I doubt it can be saved but being our ONLY lifeboat at the moment we must dump the crooks & pirates who have seized it and dump them over the side then set about repairing every rotten plank if we are to survive as a Country using this lifeboat – even until a new one comes along.

Don’t hold out ANY hopes for the Tories and Declan Ganley’s Libertas Party launched with new offices in Strasbourgh is no salvation as its views are 99.99% the same as the Tories – pro EU membership but try to change it from within.

Kind of ‘In The Gas Chambers But Not Inhalling’!

Greg L-W.
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Greg Lance-Watkins,
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What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62


I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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