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#0408* – UKIP Seems Willing To Prostitute Principles For MORE Tax Payers’ Money!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/04/2011

#0408* – UKIP Seems Willing To Prostitute Principles For MORE Tax Payers’ Money!
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
UKIP Seems Willing To Prostitute Principles For MORE Tax Payers’ Money! 
Can UKIP Leadership Be Either As Dishonest Or As Stupid As They Seem?



08-Apr-2011 – UKIP Seems Willing To Prostitute Principles For MORE Tax Payers’ Money!

08-Apr-2011 – UKIP Seems Willing To Prostitute Principles For MORE Tax Payers’ Money!

John Stuart Agnew, on behalf of the EFD Group.

– Mr President, this legislation will allow the EU to throw money at referendum campaigns to ensure that it purchases the right result first time, for a change!
The UK will in future be holding a referendum each time the EU proposes to remove power from its electorate. The EU is frightened out of its wits that we may give a series of wrong answers. So it intends to remove money from UK taxpayers to indoctrinate them into its version of the path of true righteousness.
Fronting the legislation is Andrew Duff, a liberal democrat MEP from my own region. Support in the UK for his party has collapsed recently – a party of course desperate for EU institutions to govern the UK. Never has the EU’s gerrymandering been so clearly displayed alongside its contempt for UK voters. It is sowing the seeds of its own destruction, because the legislation will allow us to fund the referendum campaign that many in my country have for a very long time been waiting for – the one that gives us the opportunity to remove ourselves entirely from its control.


Would my colleague Mr Agnew agree with me that a political party that would accept funding under this legislation, as a single European party, and which in particular would have to observe the EU’s programme and activities and the founding principles of European law, and the development of European law at all levels regionally, nationally and at European level, em> would be a party which has lost its principles? 

Would you agree with me, Mr Agnew?


I say to Ms Sinclaire that we will take what we can out of this because we use the devil’s money to do God’s work. That is what we do, and well you know it.


Will you accept the principle of European law though?


No, of course we do not. That is why we are here.

For the original comments by Agnew and Sinclaire: LINK

What UKIP MEPs seem not to understand (well one fact clearly of many) as shown by their clearly out of his depth spokesman Stuart Agnew, is that if they are foolish enough to join a PEPP not one Iota nor EUro will accrue to UKIP.

UKIP seem to be trying to dupe their more gullible members into the belief that if they vote for PEPPs and join one they will have extra money to promote their claimed withdrawalist agenda.

One wonders if UKIP MEPs are so stupid that they believe this or are they so dishonest that they are deliberately telling lie and employing their muppets and parasites to lie to the members also.

It will not be long before the members receive a rude awakening!

The new centralised funding whether it is like the extra funding that is currently obtained seemingly used to bribe others to join the group to keep the numbers up or if it is like the formerly titled 4000 Account now abbreviated to being the 400 account (keep changing the names! It help obfuscate the scams!) seemingly unaccounted and falling under the control of the group leader even possibly used as bribes and even possibly trousered!

The funding for PEPPs would just fall under the control of the group, be that the extremist pro EU membership EFD Group or some new group such as that which the racist and generally irresponsible buffoon Godfrey Bloom and others have joined CLICK HERE.

The new money thus extorted from the tax payers might seem a bonanza but firstly it is only available on compliance with the aims and ambitions of The EU but also its disbursement would be a matter of group voting and as at the moment UKIP would find that its diminished authority would once again leave them as the junior partner – out voted in The EFD which is by a large majority a pro EU reformist body and not in favour of withdrawal as are several of the UKIP members of The EFD – no doubt with a view to their future self enrichment!

Thus, whatever The Group decided, UKIP would only be able to enact the Group policy within these United Kingdoms.

Thus although the original rules CLICK HERE may predicate against domestic use of the new funding the rule changes covered on this blog back in March CLICK HERE will make little or no difference to the domestic funding of National referendums that could be construed as positive.

In their stunning ignorance or more likely utter duplicity, UKIP aspirants to yet more money claim that the new rules permit them to fund opposition to membership in UK Referendums – a particularly disingenuous claim as what it conveniently overlooks is that FIRSTLY UKIP would merely be the representative of a Group and would legally be bound by Group Policy – Secondly The Group’s funding will be determined by The Group’s performance in ‘PROMOTING’ the views, values and aspirations of The EU!

The very stupid or singularly dishonest leadership of UKIP and its parasites will do much to get their hands on more money but their argument that it would be other than for themselves is unconvincing!

Let us consider for a moment that their foolish claims were just stupid – Yes UKIP by virtue of their group might have more money and by flouting the rules and risking the money for EVERY member of The Group they were legitimately permitted to campaign in the interest of their members ( a rare occurance these days!).

The down side risk of their tactic with a mere 30 or so members in their Group and with maybe 10 or less UKIP members – so UKIP could fund from their cut of Group funds activities in these United Kingdoms in a referendum – Wat of the other 700+ fully funded MEPs, they of course immediately become eligible to fund EU policy and EU interests in such a referendum!

I note the sound words of Barbara BOOKER on the subject:

An inkling of the near impossibility for UKIP of drawing up a political programme with Europarty colleagues whose aim is to stay in the EU and improve how it works and develops and is perceived, can be gained from studying the way the EFD voted following Tuesday’s Europarties debate. UKIP’s MEPs and three others voted against the resolution. With one exception the Italian MEPs abstained, as did one of the Lithuanians. One Italian, the two Greeks, the Slovakian and another Lithuanian all voted in favour of the resolution.
The significant thing about this is that four of those who either voted in favour or abstained (Imbrasas, Paska, Provera and Paksas) were named in Sharon Ellul Bonici’s e-mail last October as being already confirmed/about to confirm their membership of the Europarty that Godfrey Bloom has already joined, and presumably the one that Nigel Farage wants the rest of UKIP also to join.
These group colleagues who act against what UKIP MEPs see as being in the UK’s interest, are among the very people for whom UKIP principles will be compromised or abandoned in the cause of agreeing a joint programme for the promotion of an improved EU.

Clearly prostituting what few principles UKIP has managed to hang onto, though for the life of me I’m not sure what they are would seem a very poor exchange for the 30 pieces of silver they hope to trouser!

Let us also not forget that Sharon Ellul Bonici stood as a Marxist in her home constituency in Malta! Is there nothing nor any gutter UKIP leadership will befoul themselves with for money?



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