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#0241* – HAPPY NEW YEAR – to GENUINE UKIP Supporters! Consider The ECONOMICS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/01/2011

#0241* – HAPPY NEW YEAR – to GENUINE UKIP Supporters! Consider The ECONOMICS!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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 HAPPY NEW YEAR – to GENUINE UKIP Supporters! 
Consider The ECONOMICS! 
The ECONOMICS of THE ASSYLUM! 
COLLAPSE!

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Hi,

I make no apology for cross posting this, although it has little to do with UKIP Leadership and the corruption that is endemic amongst them and their parasites.

I appreciate though there are still a few UKIP supporters left who although revolted by the behaviour of the leadership their parasites and disgusted by their involvement in funding and aiding Racism, Xenophobia, Ant Judaism, holocaust denial, Violence, Criminality and sexual intollerance with their partners in The Pan EU Political Party Group of The EFD 
they still can not think how else they can genuinely oppose membership of The EU.

Let us hope the few remaining UKIP supporters are still looking to the future and waiting either to get their party back without the lies, thebullying, the corruption, the crass behaviour and the pond life that are now its MEPs and the funded praise singers and parasites of the risible leadership claque.

They may well be wanting to follow events and wait for a viable alternative, or they may be considering the long term benefits of radical change and the election of MPs to Westminster on a fully INDEPENDENT basis with one common aim and their own policies on the less relevant matters.

There is absolutely no possible intelligence in drawing up a single item for a Manifesto – to do so is UTTERLY dishonest as from the moment we leave The EU the calliber of politicians incum,bent is so low that we will have no choice but to remove whips, disempower Parties and use a coalition of Britain’s best political and legal visionary brains to dismantle the cancerous EU’s intrusive fibers and revivify Justice and Democracy.

We will be sailing in dangerous seas with all the best hands on deck to re-establish our Liberty, Sovereignty and Independent Dignity as global traders once more unfettered by the malign and damaging evils of The EU.

It will take two terms of co-alition and co-option to restore Britain and purge it of the evils of The EU and identify the traitors and remove their hand from the wheel of The Ship of State and THEN we can start to consider policies, manifestos, referenda and new structures for election and localising decision making with small Government as the servant of the people.

Some of this can be found at INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance where you can discuss the principles, ethics and morays of the new horizon on >The Forum<, there is NOTHING to preclude genuine UKIP supporters from joining in to help formulate a better future liberated from The EU.

Meanwhile perhaps you can lend a direct hand towards a Referendum for a vote to remain IN or OUT of The EU – details and links can be found and you can read the thoughts and background of Nikki Sinclaire, Dan Hannan, James Pryor, Jon Gaunt, Bridget Rowe and many others actively campaigning at:
http://TheMidnightGroup.blogspot.com

Sorry I have been a bit lax of late but first my Mother’s funeral and then some baaaad test results and then a teenage dream for New Year a night in bed with changing services of a group of nurses whilst high on drugs 😉 – Yeah great! an operation and biopsy on New Years Eve tends to take one’s eye off the ball!

I have a current window to utilise now but back to hospital again in 4 weeks, so lets see what we can achieve in that time.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH to the literally dozens of people who phoned Lee whilst I was in not only to give her support but also to wish me well.


THANK YOU particularly to the many genuine friends we have made in the years we have supported UKIP, its values and principles and have endeavoured to make the catastrophic leadership remotely fit for purpose (So unsuccessfully that our efforts are spread over a much wider area of opposition to EU membership, than we would have wished had UKIP had any semblance of competence, leadership, morality or common sense as we had hoped for so long!).

#G396* – HAPPY NEW YEAR – PERHAPS! The ECONOMICS of THE ASSYLUM! COLLAPSE!

Hi,

HAPPY NEW YEAR – PERHAPS!

as the Government bangs on about ‘The Big Society‘ – surely it is ‘Big Government‘ with over taxation, social engineering, political correctness, QUANGOs, Kleptocracy, interferrence and utter incompetence as shown by the inability to accept responsibility for anything they get wrong, the lack of integrity that means when they are monumentally wrong yet hang onto their cronie based non jobs – these are the facts that preclude society of any damned size.

Society large or small is a matter of aim, desire, value and result NOT Legislate, Empire Build, Self Enrich and Over Regulate.

Government is merely the servant of the natural society and as soon as they exceed that role the end and collapse of society approaches with the speed escalating as taxes rise, interference increases and State employment burgeons.

The perfect example of a collapsing society is Britain after 13 unlucky years of utter incompetence from the morally bankrupt, economically illiterate Labour Party and now we have a weak and venal coalition of those who failed to be elected clinging onto a pretence of Governing ONLY because those tossed out by election were even worse.

We now have a National Debt of £4.8 Trillion and inevitably rising as the interest rates and destruction wrought by Labour incurred interest and future commitments that preclude any chance of even denting the debt.

These are glib figures as we listen to politicians talk of ‘we will spend £XXX Million to improve YYY’ the next intends to ‘Invest £X Billion over 5 years in improving YYY’
X insert appropriate figure
Y insert appropriate department.

The sonambulent audience applause not understanding for a moment that these clowns don’t have ANY money – what they have announced is how much more of yours and my money they intend to steal to justify their useless existence.

They talk glibly of a £Billion – OK so what is a Billion?
ONE Billion seconds ago it was 1963
ONE Billion minutes ago predates the Christian era
ONE Billion hours ago predates mammalian bipedal movement on this planet!

Now we have £Trillions so what is a Trillion?
Well if you took a £50 note new from the mint and put a stack of them on top of each other how high would a stack of ONE Trillion £ be?
Well astonishingly that stack of notes would be 1,281 miles high!

So Britain’s National Debt is in fact a pile of notes 6,150 Miles High!

So at a mere 5% interest rate compound the stack grows inexorably by 307 Miles a year!

The Government spent MORE money than every single British Citizen and every single British business put together – Considerably more than they actually earned in taxes stolen from us!

The Public Sector is now BIGGER than the Private Sector – If we sold EVERY single House, Flat or home in Britain it would NOT raise enough money to pay Britain’s debts!

The present shower in power are little better and in fact National Annual Government Spending will rise from £697 Billions to £757 Billions – based upon current commitment alone and the cuts and increases of tax as on Fuel will not even effect the interest let alone the debt!

On this basis who do YOU think is working for whom?

Is your Government the servant of OUR Society is it even a part of it or like some great maggot just feeding on the corpse their diseased policies have created until there is NO Society left Big or Little!

When the Society is gone and we are fighting eachother for food; because the CAP & CFP have so catastrophically failed, as we KNOW they have; what will the parasites in Government and the 53% of the people who have betrayed the Big Society by working for The Big Government then feed on as they make and produce NOTHING.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

& ANYONE with an idea how we cut Government back to the bare minimum to give The Big Society a chance do let me know.

Do not forget when the servants are more powerfull, more numerous and more wealthy than those they serve it is just ONE STEP from La Guillotine and a very small step at that. One step from ripping up the wooden floor in your own home to heat what little food you may have, with every coat and jumper on the bed to keep warm and a collapsed Health Service with children found dead in their beds with hypothermia and malnutrition.

Northern Ireland after years and years of being betrayed by their leaders both secular and clerical whilst they squabbled, bombed and terrorised to gain power in a power struggle to gain control over control of building scams, taxi rackets and Government contracts whilst masquerading criminally in a pretence of faith and souls aided in the criminality by the Papacy and the Protestant criminal class – now they have found out a hidden cost of the irresponsibility with the complete collapse of their water supply infrastructure and even that was mild because for so many years the British Tax Payers have been paying for their self indulgent idiocy!

The model for Northern Ireland and now it seems the only hope for Britain would be to follow the economic principles of John Cowperthwait (April 25, 1915 – January 21, 2006) who was Financial Secretary of Hong Kong from 1961 to 1971and who in those 10 years by implementation of the economic principles of Adam Smith took Hong Kong from a transit post fishing community to being a power house economy driven and still upwardly mobile to this day.

John Cowperthwait removed ALL taxation from the poor, removed purchase taxes, set taxes around 15% with a top band of around 20% and almost immediately within months saw tax revenues rise as the output of the people increased with the added incentives and liberation as the tax burden was lifted – The wealth of the small banking and Colonial center very soon led to a burgeoning area of luxury with ever more ever higher towers of glass and ambitious design.

The growth was such that it spilled off of the island first to develope The New Territories on the mainland and then to enrich the ajoining Chinese provinces with the entrepenurial spirit spilling out to turn the region into one of the most vibrant economic growth areas in the world.

As a result of slashing taxes and creating wealth even Communist China has learned the lesson and despite the centralising control spirit ethos of Communism China controls only 28% of economic activity across its hugely diverse peoples and land, which you will note continues to grow year on year, as does the wealth of the State where currently they are seeking to further underpin their economy and growth for the future by increasing their gold holdings by an additional 10,000 physical tons which is driving the price of gold up on world markets whilst all but the BRICs are struggling.

China may well be Communist with 28% State control of the economy yet we see Britain as a capitalist Country, ostensibly, collapsing under the burden of 53% central Government control and a fraction of the growth of the BRICs dwarfed by China and India.

How long would YOU last if the food shops never opened again because The EU had so catastrophically mismanaged the CAP & CFP that there is no food to buy?
IT HAS – we are now net food importers right across EUrope, no longer able to feed ourselves!

I do not believe we have an economic leader with the wisdom or clout of John Cowperthwait and clearly we have only the dregs playing out their egos and greed in Politics with nothing but their failures and their egos to offer the people – I can see no sign of the kind of intelligence or vision in the body politic that it can or would turn The Ship of State around with the hazards of the channel with collapsing output on the one side, burgeoning unemployment on the other and a howling gale of over regulation from our malign Government in Brussels endorsed by its Gaulleiters rubber stamping its crassly incompetent and catastrophic squalls of bureaucratic paperwork and petty fogging, self serving over regulation with yet again more foolish vat rises to further hamper the economy emanating from The EU.

Just as the storm broke Britain found ourselves with the most squalid, most corrupt and most self serving and incompetent Governments for 200 years at the very time when also our enemies and the enemies of mankind were amassing their greatest hold on centralised power and malevollent control in EUropean history with the malice of Nazi Germany and the greed for self enrichment of The Peakock Throne of Persia.

We are little better off now with the also rans who were voted in not on their merit but as the apathetic public realised the heinous hubristic arrogance of the incumbent Government of economic illiterates and self enriching War Criminals of Blair & Brown’s Cabinets dancing to the tune of Julia Middleton’s Common Purpose hand in glove with the leader of the Government John Presscot and his old school Communist ambitions so in tune with the EU which now costs us £48 Million a day being squandered on ever larger palatial shrines and burgeoning levels of bribery and unaccountability sheltering behind a €2.1/2 Billion propaganda budget to tell us how wonderfull they are with OUR money!

It is just a matter of WHEN total collapse occurs not IF. Bringing with it The Wars of Disassociation and the propensity for 200,000,000 deaths as famine and anarchic violence stalk the planes of EUrope. Do not fool yourself these catastrophies won’t happen – in the realisation of their imminence the leadership of these New World Order Governments have tried to detract the people from what is really happening by inventing and imposing the nonsense of AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming) minded to trick people, without ANY sound science into fear of an event NOT happening to use it to tax people to stave off the day of the economic collapse that IS happening!

Mankind is nearly ungovernable without an ever greater fear to salve his willingness to pay taxes so the State can grow and the political elite cover their mistakes and stuff their pockets – Yet have you EVER heard a politician of stature and integrity factor into the equation the simple fact that when the last World War of 1945 ended the Global population was a tad short of 2 Billion and we now have a population of just coming up to 7,000,000,000 or more simply in 65 years the planets population has grown by 3.1/2 times.

How can YOU possibly believe collapse can be avoided with the calliber of crud we have for politicians when numerous MPs were asked what Britain’s National debt was not one knew one to be fair said it was Trillions but went on to qualify that he had no idea what a Trillion was and of the others most believed it to be NOT £4.8 Trillion but a mere £150 > 175 Billion.

Not one of the random members of the public who tried could even read £4,800,000,000,000 (£4.8T) off of the side of an artic trailer!
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“In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821),

Regards,
Greg L-W.

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British Politicians with pens and treachery, in pursuit of their own agenda and greed, have done more damage to the liberty, freedoms, rights and democracy of the British peoples than any army in over 1,000 years.

The disastrous effects of British politicians selling Britain into the thrall of foreign rule by the EU for their own personal rewards has damaged the well-being of Britain more than the armies of Hitler and the Franco – German – Italian axis of 1939 – 1945.

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#114* – Gollom’s lost his Pressssiousssss!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/11/2008

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

BEFORE WE START TODAY:
I wonder if those of you on the NEC and amongst the leadership, or at least with access to EUkip computers and mailing lists would perform your usual stunt and leak like Billy Oh to your apparatchiks – those who regularly mail me ‘stuff’ don’t worry as, if you circulate the URL that follows, people will believe that you are on side and not one of my sources – so play safe 😉

Here is the URL to mail out, to bring people up to speed with what is going on – as time passes not only will it be kept upto date but also the backlog will be posted – almost 200 blogs so do forgive me if it takes a little time.

http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com/
ADD IT TO FAVOURITES
LINK FROM YOUR BLOG

#114* – Gollom’s lost his Pressssiousssss!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip LEADERSHIP’S CORRUPTION & THEIR COLLAPSE!

Hi,

Sorry todays news update is a little unimaginative but it does rather reflect those who were posting the material to each other in outright betrayal of the membership and clearly out of venal self interest.

Little Gollom excels himself as he slithers around duplicitous as ever – an unpleasant and cowardly creep always ready to do something in his own interest.

He has proved in the past to have the honour and integrity of a snake and the personality of a stoat. Both untrustworthy and vicious in his self interest – willing to mislead and back stab along with the rest of that which has floated to the top of the septic tank of EUkip politics.

I do particularly enjoy the grovelling of Youles, ever available to promote himself by a little underhand brown nosing!

By the way – thanks to my source who, as I understand, it mailed it to me through a blind hotmail account having received it, I presume on a lap top in the EU, earlier last night.

Anyway – make of this what you will and I will interject but a little 😉

—– Original Message —–
From: “John Youles” <jbyoules@ntlworld.com>

To: “Paul Nuttall, UKIP Chaiman” <chairman@ukip.org>
Cc: “George Curtis, UKIP Eastern Counties Chairman” <
gscurtis@aspects.net>; “John Savory,
UKIP Eastern Counties Norfolk Member”
gillian.savory@onetel.com>;
“Peter Reeve, UKIP Eastern Counties Organiser” <
reeve@ukip.org>; “Office of Jeffrey Titford
MEP”
ukipeastadmin@intamail.com>;
“Glenn Tingle (chairman UKIP Norwich)” <
tingo@btinternet.com>; “Stuart Agnew
(UKIP Norwich cttee)”
stuart.agnew@btconnect.com>;
“Steve Emmens (UKIP Norwich cttee)” <
steve.memmens@ntlworld.com>;
“John Woodhead (treasurer UKIP Norwich”
reedhamjohn@btconnect.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: Clarification

You will not be surprised to know that I receive unsolicited emails from
thespammer Greg Lance-Watkins.
One recently referred to a meeting at Newmarket at the end of September and
a”unanimous declaration” of representatives of a number of constituencies.
Theimpression given was that these people were representative of the
EasternCounties as a whole.This is not so. Neither I nor my branch
chairman were aware of this meetingbefore it took place.
Therefore the declaration does not represent Norwichbranch at all (three
constituencies).Furthermore, I contacted some other committee members of various
Norfolkbranches, none of whom had been aware of it either.I have also read of
criticisms of the Eastern Counties Committee, and of theRegional Organiser,
which I find quite bizarre.
Peter Reeve has always beenmost helpful to this branch, in particular he
has organised meetings for branchcommittee members in the county are proving
invaluable.
Regarding the MEP selection process, I was very impressed by the quality of
thecandidates at the hustings, all of whom were far far better, IMHO, than the
twowannabes who have been complaining.
Regards
John Youles
Secretary, UK Independence Party Norwich Branch
Tel: 01603 407152 Mob: 07941 343824 Fax: 08444 171626
— No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG.Version:
7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1755 – Release Date: 29/10/08 17:27

This reads rather more as if it was written by a virus!

eColi by the duplicitous and underhand brown nosing!

Let us look at it in some detail:

You will not be surprised to know that I receive unsolicited emails from thespammer Greg Lance-Watkins.

Well at least SOMEONE is keeping him informed!
Isn’t it funny how one is classified as a spammer if you are publishing facts and the truth that some wish to keep hidden – whereas their liars, cheats and corruption is portrayed as ‘Lobbying’ – they do let themselves and those they represent down by being so childishly transparent and predictable.Ever name calling like children in a playground!

One recently referred to a meeting at Newmarket at the end of September and a”unanimous declaration” of representatives of a number of constituencies. Theimpression given was that these people were representative of the EasternCounties as a whole.

Do not lie John, it ill becomes you – NOWHERE did I state it represented the entirety of the Eastern Counties I clearly stated that the invitation would seem to have been widespread and that of the 21 Constituency branches ALL 21 signed the declaration.

John your commentary though predictable is dishonest.

You will note from the oleagenous Gollom’s response that he has identified 4 more active branches but they did not attend. Would this standard of dishonesty be how you would expect EUkip to Govern if it was ever elected to any office?

This is not so. Neither I nor my branch chairman were aware of this meetingbefore it took place. Therefore the declaration does not represent Norwichbranch at all (three constituencies).

How grossly inefficient of you – I knew before the meeting and not from someone who organised it or was attending – no wonder with your display of awareness EUkip merely garnered 117 votes in the recent By Election, a massive EUkip style 0.03%

One of the big problems with EUkip, as I have always said, is in 15 years they have failed to put in place an organisational structure – lines of communications and trained competence – don’t bitch about the messenger when you have so clearly proved my point.

Furthermore, I contacted some other committee members of various Norfolkbranches, none of whom had been aware of it either.

How clearly you prove me right – is it any wonder that the corrupt leadership and NEC become arrogant and believe they can treat the members like dirt as they cheat and lie to keep their snouts in the EU troughs and aid their cronies.

With a structure as crass and amateur as you admit to here are you really surprised at the extent to which they cheat and lie?

I have also read of criticisms of the Eastern Counties Committee, and of theRegional Organiser, which I find quite bizarre.

What planet is this little lad on? Rather than trying to belittle the messenger can I suggest you try to keep in touch with what is going on – I try my best but perhaps my new blog will help you keep up with the facts .
The URL is:
http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com

Peter Reeve has always been most helpful to this branch, in particular he has organised meetings for branchcommittee members in the county are proving invaluable.

One has to wonder what he wants from you in view of the damaging interference he has orchestrated in other branches and the fact that his mistress was dishonestly ‘placed’ on the NEC – not to mention the various branches that have voted, in accord with the constitution, and have deselected him – together with liars and cowards like George Curtis and the unprofessional and dishonest Andrew Smith who has put the party at risk of losing upto A MILLION POUNDS with his irresponsible behaviour in cahoots with the insecure idiot Nigel Farage.

IF Reeve was any damned good he would have ensured you knew about the Newmarket meeting where 21 branches were represented, however he was obviously too busy plotting to orchestrate dishonest and unconstitutional witch hunts and kangaroo courts – not to mention a major local rally at which the discredited and dishonest deputy leader spoke in a hired hall, after advertising widely, to less than 12 people.

I wonder if NuttAll could have got 21 branches represented at Newark – he failed at Capel St. Mary.

Regarding the MEP selection process, I was very impressed by the quality of thecandidates at the hustings, all of whom were far far better, IMHO, than the twowannabes who have been complaining.

Who might these so called ‘wanabes’ be?

The liar, fraud, cheat and all round failure David the desk Bannerman?
or
The braggart and bully Stuart Agnew who boasts he has paid enough to buy the position and brings no diplomatic or political skill to the arena, merely self importance and greed!

Might it be the dishonest slippery Gollom, currently we understand under investigation by both the Essex Police
(who are I understand awaiting response from OLAF on Titford & Gulleford for substantive allegations of fraud, money laundering and embezzling, which one must hope they will be cleared of as they will then possibly be facing investigation and charges for ‘abuse of computer data’ having hacked into the private mail of the past Chairman Petrina Holdsworth and the past General Secretary Geoffrey Kingscott and possibly others).

Where were you when the Returning Officer’s report of the corruption under your nose was made public – ‘Turning A Blind Eye’ or doing an impersonation of all three of the wise monkeys!

John – don’t be a twerp, you really can’t be that stupid!You damage your credibility by trying to defend the indefensible AFTER the events have been made public!

—– Forwarded Message —-

From: Stuart Gulleford ukipeast@intamail.com
To: Paul Nuttall ; John Youles jbyoules@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: George Curtis ; gillian.savory@onetel.com;
ukipeastadmin@intamail.com; tingo ;
steve.memmens@ntlworld.com; John Woodhead ;
shawforddavid@hotmail.com; alanbown@btinternet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk;
davidfabbott@btinternet.com; dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk; del1young@yahoo.co.uk;
derekrclark@hotmail.co.uk; douglas.denny@btopenworld.com;
greg@glanceback.demon.co.uk; ukipse@ukip.org; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com;
lisa.duffy2@tesco.net; martaandreasen@auna.com; mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk;
nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk; rjoxley@lineone.net;
susan@keymerhaslam.co.ukSent:
Thursday, 30 October, 2008 10:30:55
Subject: Re: ClarificationThanks for this

John.
I would add that I am a branch chairman – Brentwood & Ongar and I
wasn’t invited either. That gets us up to four constituencies not
included. Any advance?

The Newmarket meeting was a complete con in that the
invitation implied it was for campaign planning and people went along expecting
exactly that, not another platform for the fifth column we seem to have in our
midst. who are prepared to do anything they possibly can to disrupt the Eastern
Counties, at a time when we most need to pull together to be ready for the
European Election and the General Election that will follow soon
afterwards.

The ringleaders were very careful to ensure that no one who
was likely to publicly disagree with them was invited. One wonders who is
really behind them as their efforts benefit nobody but the other political
parties, who oppose us in our fight for an independent Britain.

I gather that another fifth column meeting is to held in Newmarket on 8th November. I hope that people will have wised up and the attendance will reflect the true nature of the level of support for this nonsense.

It would also be beneficial if we managed to get some members there who are prepared to oppose these troublemakers.

Best wishes
Stuart Gulleford

ChairmanBrentwood & Ongar
Constituency Association>

So let us consider what the oiliferous and untrustworthy Gollom has actually had to say:

Thanks for this John.

It is always so nice to have someone who will boot lick isn’t it!

I would add that I am a branch chairman – Brentwood & Ongar and I wasn’t invited either. That gets us up to four constituencies not included. Any advance?

Have you actually got more than 21+ 4 branches left after the damage done to EUkip by yourself and the leadership – Tom Wise (STILL not only a member but a branch chairman until a couple of weeks ago!

The membership has collapse and you would be astonished how many of the people I phone who have dropped out of UKIP in disgust – Active members avidly read my newsletters and I get 100s of incoming eMails a day to my computer but I do get a few ill mannered abusive comments from people too stupid to be able to read – that get deleted automatically.

The Newmarket meeting was a complete con in that the invitation implied it was for campaign planning and people went along expecting exactly that, not another platform for the fifth column we seem to have in our midst.

It is clear you are not very bright but I didn’t realise you were so stupid as to show yourself for a fool in one sentence!

CONSIDER:
You State (The Newmarket meeting was a complete con) so therefore everyone was, according to you ‘duped’ into attending – but interestingly of the activists who attended, conned on the belief they were there to discuss tactics etc. at what was a widely advertised meeting – 21 out of 21 Constituencies signed the Newmarket Declaration.

Rather than hang around damaging UKIP – why don’t you go and get a real job, there is surely a limit to how long the EUroSceptic movement can be expected to support such a destructive, self interested parasite. Or is it that you are unemployable outside your greasy pit!

who are prepared to do anything they possibly can to disrupt the Eastern Counties, at a time when we most need to pull together to be ready for the European Election and the General Election that will follow soon afterwards.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE to try to clean up the Eastern Region?
What example have you set in your salaried position cheating in the selection process, spreading dissent and fermenting trouble.

Even your own Returning Officer said your conduct in the Eastern Region was unacceptable and the process should be re-run.

What have you done to get rid of the liar, fraud and cheat Bannerman etc. etc. – NO NOTHING for as long as it suited YOU.

You are contemptible!

The ringleaders were very careful to ensure that no one who was likely to publicly disagree with them was invited.

Were that true honest men and women of integrity would applaud them for their wisdom – Just look how corrupt YOUR Region has become:

One MEP under arrest and on Bail for a series of crimes as reported in the media and clearly known to many.

YOU creeping around with vile little letters, plotting and scamming.

An entire selection process corrupt and corrupted and a lead candidate CHOSEN not elected who is a disgrace to the party.

No wonder less than 12 people turned up to HIS Rally!

One wonders who is really behind them as their efforts benefit nobody but the other political parties, who oppose us in our fight for an independent Britain.

YOU DISHONEST GRUBBY LITTLE MAN – after the damage you have done and the collusion in the destruction of EUkip you have the nerve to TRY to accuse decent men and women of undermining filth like YOU.

The remaining Patriots in what was UKIP are trying desperately hard to rid it of the salaried, showboating, self seeking creeps who have made it a party no individual of integrity would consider supporting.

Am I being too honest for YOU?

CONSIDER:

UKIP had 29,500 members in 2004

it now has about 6,000 active members.

Head Office even quietly admits that the membership is falling daily, but pretend it is around 14,000 – implausible twaddle.

0.03% voted EUkip in the last by election – for every EUkip vote Labour at the bottom of their popularity got 170 votes.

EUkip has £45,000 in its piggy bank whilst facing forfeitures & Costs of up to £1,000,000 on ONE case alone.

EUkip hasn’t a single backer of substance left.

The one backer is a retired bookie who has been DUPED & LIED TO thus conning him into thinking he must pay the costs incurred by Farage & Smith!

NEED I GO ON?

I gather that another fifth column meeting is to held in Newmarket on 8th November.

Not the most intelligent language for you to use when talking of a number of your long term Branch Chairmen and UKIP loyalists seeking desperately to clean up the filth that EUkip has become to make it electable.

I hope that people will have wised up and the attendance will reflect the true nature of the level of support for this nonsense.

Yes there were only 20 present this time but with more appologies – almost twice as many as attended that liar, failure & Fraud Bannerman’s RALLY, which was so widely advertised!

It would also be beneficial if we managed to get some members there who are prepared to oppose these troublemakers.

We must remind you that you sent along two plants and to judge by the briefing they received they were complete cabbages’, but having found their briefing was a pack of lies they looked like radishes they were so embarrassed – the audience of chairmen must have thought they smelt like durion because it wasn’t long before they scuttled out like rats with their tails between their legs.

Astonishing really when you consider that Ian Jonathan Smith thought he was an expert on M15 and tried, with lack lustre support from the hapless little Herbert Hitt, to explain how M15 functioned and in so doing clearly and publicly slandered me, both in fact and by implication – however I’m not entirely certain that an ill informed imbecile would be held responsible for his lies in a Court of Law particularly since he could no doubt prove who had briefed him.

Gulleford may I suggest you do everyone a favour, but most especially yourself, LEAVE EUkip as a part of the cleaning up process and please NEVER again act as a parasite in the EUroSceptic movement you have done it consistent damage year in year out – just look at the mess EUkip is in in the Eastern Region, and that ALL took place on YOUR watch.

No wonder the CIB were so relieved when they were shot of you.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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#113* – Eastern Region Septic Tank With Its Lid Off

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/11/2008

#113* – Eastern Region Septic Tank With Its Lid Off!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip LEADERSHIP’S CORRUPTION & FARAGE’S REICHSTAG FIRE!

Hi,

Let us firstly clear the confusion of Peter Reeve the Regional Organiser who is presiding over the collaps of EUkip in the Eastern Region.Fortunately I spotted his eMail in the SPAM dump bin on one of my other computers – normally people who wish to contact me use MY computer rather than posture by mailing other computers.You will note almost all my eMails state my name, address, phone number and eMail address clearly just to give even the thickest of people a clue how to contact me!It seems Peter Reeve is puzzled – thus showing that in any sense of the word he is challenged as a reeve to EUkip!

—–Original Message—–
From: pr.ukip@hotmail.com [mailto:pr.ukip@hotmail.com]
On Behalf Of PETER REEVE
Sent: 08 November 2008 10:52
To: greg.glanceback@
Subject: Lisa Duffy

To Mr Watkins

Please can you provide we with the basis for your statement that Lisa Duffy dishonestly gained her seat on the NEC as in the quote below. This is a very serious allegation which you claim to have distributed to up to 4,000 people on this email alone and have repeated on earlier emails circulated by yourself. “Peter Reeve lives with Lisa Duffy & her children and I gather a few of his – you will note La Duffy dishonestly gained her seat on the NEC”
Quote is from email ref :
From: Glanceback greg.glanceback@
Subject: #1125 – Eastern Region Rises Against Corruption of EUkip Leadership It Seems!
To: greg.glanceback@
Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 6:30 AM
Regards.Peter Reeve
Regional Organiser
UKIP Eastern Counties

Firstly may I point out that as the Regional Organiser of parts of the Eastern Region, having been de-selected by various branches, being the subject of complaints to the NEC of others and having shown your own duplicity, dishonesty and underhand determination to betray the UKIP members and the public at larger my inclination is to tell you to mind your own business and if one of your superiors wish to question the veracity of my statement it is up to them.

However being aware that Lisa Duffy is a cohabiter of yours may I suggest that you read the EUkip Constitution, crass as it is in many areas having been unprofessionally altered from the original – I appreciate you have scant regard for the Constitution or Party procedural rules, however be minded of ‘the spirit of the law’ when next you read The Constitution.

Be advised that Lisa Duffy obtained her position on the NEC dishonourably and dishonestly and has abused her position and acted dishonestly and dishonourably bringing EUkip yet further into disrepute by her behaviour and her actions.

Your position Mr. Reeve is unconscionable for a man of any integrity, morality or honour.

May I remind you that you are promoting and supporting the undeniably corrupt selection process in your region as shown beyond any possible doubt in the public domain – further you are supporting in office bringing into disrepute both EUkip and the body politic the fraud, liar and cheat David Bannerman.

Is it any wonder that in a society largely opposed to vassal status in the EU amongst an audience of the young and educated at Cambridge EUkip’s position was resoundingly rejected when it fielded the fundamentally flawed and dishonest Mr. Bannerman.Despite leafleting, widespread advertising and a great deal of promotion you will have noted that the EUkip Rally at Capel St. Mary was an unmitigated disaster – having hired a Hall and after all the effort you found out just how popular you are amongst members, despite a claimed membership of 1,770ish in your Region only 10 or 12 were remotely interested in hearing the opinions or views of the corrupt Bannerman or the scams you are paid to uphold!

Interestingly despite the liar and coward George Curtis publishing widely to prevent members meeting, with your assistance – it is noted that on a limited circulation and with little effort – despite yours & the odious George Curtis’s efforts and misrepresentations – some 20 branches were represented from your region.

I note that despite two liars in the audience seemingly planted by the odious Gollom (who has a track record of dishonesty and misrepresentation and is together with his employer Jeffrey Titford under investigation by OLAF with a pending situation by Essex Police).

I appreciate that the rather sad Herbert Hitt had come along to support the lies of Ian Jonathan Smith – but you will have heard they made complete fools of themselves and had to scuttle off with their tails between their legs when they found out they were inadequately and dishonestly briefed.

Peter Reeve your behaviour in upholding dishonesty, presumably for financial gain, is unpatriotic, dishonest, corrupt, dishonourable and damaging to the EUroSceptic movement – that you are unable to work out the ways in which Lisa Duffy dishonestly gained a position on the NEC and has acted dishonourably since comes as no surprise to me.

Whether Lisa Duffy and yourself are in the employ of some agency to work with Bannerman to destroy the EUroSceptic movement or merely useful idiots is of no interest to me – the facts speak for themselves and are clear and they are that EUkip has all but collapsed and the media takes no interest as they are clearly irrelevant – the build up of Court cases all but deliberately incurred by EUkip.

As with the Judicial Review currently reaching culmination with a possible £1,000,000 cost to EUkip and thus to the NEC as bankers of last resort, if Alan Bown refuses to pay having woken up and realised it was deliberately incurred by the lies and stupidity of Andrew Smith (of your Region) and the idiotic Nigel Farage.

I note that this collapse and catastrophic mismanagement, particularly in the Eastern Region is concurrent with yours Lisa Duffy’s & Bannerman’s involvement!!

This tends to speak volumes and it is pretty clear you are being used as useful idiots as I see no signs that you have the collective intelligence worth trying to train to do the job!

The damage done to the Eastern Region has largely been due to the seeking of self interest by the likes of Gollom, Bannerman, Wise, Agnew, Curtis, Smith and others who are clearly discredited and have done such damage making such justified and serious enemies on route.

One only needs to look at the main body of the party to see an example of how NOT to do almost everything political – it has been one long squabble by little men for their own gain and glory.

You have managed to drive off every serious backer, train no one, lose sight of the goal and now even try to blame you failures on the mythical invasion by the BNP – yet have proved completely unable to identify with substance a single straw towards Farage’s Reichstag Fire – the plot of corruptly shifting blame for the dishonesty and corruption and seizing absolute control as Hitler did with HIS Reichstag Fire has gone off like a damp squib making all concerned in your plot look foolish.

There was no match to light the fire and the only smoking gun was the trail of bullet holes in the feet of clay of Farage’s cronies.Keep reading my eMails and you will steadily see the plot collapse.

Read Mein Kampf and you will realise why Hitler succeeded and Farage & EUkip failed – the importance of training, structure, organisation, lines of command & respect ensured when his Reichstag Moment came Hitler had the right people in the right places to seize control and to this day there are those who believe the Fire might have been the act of a dissident – no such luck for Farage the fingerprints of he and his cronies are all over the alleged and engineered plot – right down to their having been predicted by me in written eMails and having got their time lines muddled by their gofers.

As I have said repeatedly – my contact details are readily available and I am happy to defend the patriotism of my actions, clearly showing my every word to be correct where fact is distributed and my opinions to be substantive and sound.

I have had one side or another seeking to smear me for years and beyond the childish level of lies of Ian Smith today on behalf of his puppet masters and dishonesty such as Gollom has promoted about me or the idiocy and lies of Denny & Croucher that have done so much to discredit them I have proved exactly who I claim to be motivated ONLY by the position I have consitently held and as for Croucher’s idiotic drivel about my anti Jewish stance or my affiliation with the BNP – NOTHING other than his own life and behaviour has made him look so stupid!

I repeat I am happy to attest to my every statement in detail and in outline and will willingly present at any mutually convenient public meeting to show my every statement about EUkip and the corruption of its leadership is correct.

I do not sabre rattle about libel & courts as any court would merely laugh at EUkip and dismiss the case as being unfair of me as to be libelled by EUkip is no insult as they are consistently dishonest and everyone knows it – hence they get 0.03% vote as in the recent by election.Well done EUkip – haven’t your leaders done well as your remaining gullible supporters mill around squabbling – turning up 12 at a time to hear your message.

NOT A BACKER IN SIGHT!
NO ONE TRUST YOU!
£45,000 in the bank & staring down both barrels in terms of costs and forfeiture with a pre determined guilty verdict running to near £1,000,000
Then there are all the other Court cases piling up.
NO WONDER it is an open subject of discussion, particularly in Brussels that Farage will siphon ALL resources into getting himself re-elected and then jump ship – it is even rumoured that Kirsten is merely waiting for his re-election to get a better settlement! One can not blame her I guess with her £25,000 a year rumoured to have been hush money, Farage’s hush money bill must be massive!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
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#112* – Eastern Region Rises Against Corruption of EUkip Leadership It Seems!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/11/2008

#112* – Eastern Region Rises Against Corruption of EUkip Leadership It Seems!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip LEADERSHIP’S CORRUPTION & FARAGE’S REICHSTAG FIRE!

Hi,

I though we could get back to showing just how corrupt the management of EUkip is by mailing copies of a few eMails that are in circulation amongst certain members of the NEC & leadership of EUkip – some have come direct from the EU and some from those who are amongst or with access to leadership or NEC computers including their owners 😉

Sorry not to supply Mr. Farage and his corrupt cronies and Brown Shirts with further identities to add to his Reichstag Fire expulsion lists once he has enacted his Hitler style Enabling Act thereby dispensing with the Disciplinary Committee structure, deselecting those on the NEC who will not act as his puppets and muppets, suspending the Constitution and subsuming to himself and a few enforcers the right to expel people who will not go along with his lies, deceptions, duplicity and determination to at all cost get re-elected to the troughs on the gravy train.

It increasingly looks like: the only real funding will be siphoned to fund Farage getting his snout back in the EU troughs and then clearly the funds will be depleted – Farage’s idiot milch cow Alan Bown will have spent out – having been fool enough to pay for Nigel Farage & Andrew Smith’s unprofessional and irresponsible antics and lies.

Any Court cases will be brought against EUkip, where the duped NEC are bankers of last resort, and Farage will most probably jump ship.

He has already PROVED he is duplicitous, selfish, incompetent, without any leadership skills, unable to delegate, corrupt and dishonest. He and his cronies have also proved that they have no reputation to uphold nor have I ever wittingly misled or lied or they would have slapped a writ on me! However TRUTH is my provable defence 😉

Political Parties and men of integrity sue to defend their name not to make money!

I have ONLY told the truth – whether you like it or not.

You have my name, my address & my phone number – I have offered to be cross examined to establish I am telling the truth, at any mutually convenient time and place; before a public audience – those who I have exposed as liars, frauds, cheats, spivs and fools are more than welcome to cross examine me, to try to establish my details and opinions about them are untrue and or libellous, as I have NO wish to mislead or lie about anyone or anything.

How about these letters now 😉

Before you read them do be aware that George Curtis is a liar and corrupt – a coward, only too willing to curry favour by outright lies, as long as he thinks he will not be found out – he has been!

George Curtis has to my CERTAIN knowledge lied about me and also Robin Page & John West – I have read George Curtis’s weedling report to the NEC and also his eMail to the corrupt self appointed regional committee, which as we know harbours also the proven cheat and rascal Andrew Smith.

Smith acting WITH Farage and others looks as if he may well cost EUkip between £500,000 and £1,000,000 with his dishonesty and lies, in cahoots with Nigel Farage, David Lott and others.

George Curtis is a revolting coward and a sordid low life who when confronted on the phone was unable to give honest account of his grubby behaviour.

Anyway do read these letters from the NEC archives 😉

Dear All’
I would not normally interfere in another branch’s business, but in view of the contents and the fact that I have been copied in I will.
According to the rules as in force when this new committee first met, it was not elected as the rules then dictated. It was appointed by Tom Wise, which was not a legitimate means of ‘election’.
David Bannerman was given full\ documentation as to the illegality of the committee, and he repeatedly promised to sort it out. However he did not do this, and when he left the Party Chairmanship, the dosier was handed to John Whittacker, who maintained e-mail contact with me keeping me up-to-date with his progress in the matter. He replied to an e-mail of mine early this year with words to the effect that the problem had been sorted, because the new rules published in February 2008 would apply.
George Curtis’\problem now is that he has not followed the Feb 08 rules, so the committee is still\ illegal, and has been since early 2006. Incidentally he also illegally dissolved the previous committee.

George Curtis p.s. at the end of the invitation for the 29th Nov meeting is untrue, the activists who have been in regular contact and will be at the next meeting, meet for the good of UKIP and Britain, and` are fed-up with the rule-breaking at all levels of UKIP, not to mention the lies and deceit.There will be some senior UKIP members there and I strongly suggest that G Curtis sendsout a retraction of his p.s.

yours with many good reasons for fighting against the EU,

Martin HARVEY

In a message dated 07/11/2008 12:03:49 GMT Standard Time, reeve@ukip.org writes:

To Peter Cole.

Again your email is completely inaccurate and misleading. The email referring to ‘batches’ was sent to your home email yesterday.
RE: INVITATION
From:
PETER REEVE (reeve@ukip.org)
Sent:
06 November 2008 13:06:43
To:
peter cole(home) (kingcolehole@ntlworld.com)

Please also note that : Georges role as the Eastern Counties Chairman’s is legitimate. We have, on several occasions, checked with the appropriate people in the hierarchy of Party that there is no problem and all relevant individuals have been happy that both the committee and its officers are sound until just after the European Elections 2009.

Hope this helps. Pete
Peter Reeve
Regional Organiser
UKIP Eastern Counties

From: peterc@tomwisemep.co.uk
To: lenbay@tiscali.co.uk; reeve@ukip.org
CC: MartinHarveyONR@aol.com; johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: meeting 29th Nov. & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:13:40 +0000

Good morning Len,

To-date I have NOT been notified by Mr Reeve about ‘Batches’. I must agree with your last statement about Mr Reeve standing down but as Mr Curtis is a self appointed so called chairman of an unlawful committee I could not care less what he does as by UKIP’s own rules the position he states he holds does not exist!

Peterc

From: Len Baynes [mailto:lenbay@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 07 November 2008 08:52
To: PETER REEVE
Cc: Peter Cole; MartinHarveyONR@aol.com ; johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: meeting 29th Nov. & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.

Peter again you get it wrong please read my E-Mail as it was intended I quote ” If this situation is not resolved preety damn quick I will become independant” That in your wildest dreams is not a statement of fact, I was in this party long before you had even been on the distant horizon and will not get out just to allaviate a thorn in your side. I am afraid I cannot make the 29th of November due to a family birthday in Enfield but I am confident I will be truthfully informed of proceedings by my chairman.
As for my name on the national list it will be submitted when and if my branch select me and my chairman approves, I honestly think that is the right proceedure. But under the present situation I feel my call for you and Mr. Curtis to stand down is perfectly justified.

—– Original Message —–
From: PETER REEVE
To: Len Baynes ; peter cole(home) ; jan baynes ; george curtis
Cc: del1young@yahoo.co.uk ; derek norman ; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com ; john west ; martin harvey
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: meeting 29th Nov.þ & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.

To Len Baynes, Thanks for your email (Copy below), which I have forwarded to George Curtis as requested. Your suggestion that I have not included Peter Cole in the circulation lists are inaccurate.

I have already explained to Peter Cole (and john West) in emails this morning that : (So the batch with ‘C’ in and the batch with ‘W’ in haven’t been sent out REALLY so what has and how come I know people whose name begins with both ‘C’ & ‘W’ that have received your grubby fiddlings?) “Because we have been very successful in recruiting a large number of candidates in the Eastern Counties the advert has gone out in several batches and will be completed by the end of the week.

I look forward to seeing you on the 29th Nov.”(Rubbish – you have the sum total of 1,770 members on your Eastern Region data base and of that 470ish have eMail addresses – Do cut the spin – EUkip’s corrupt leadership is FINISHED) I have also included a copy of the circular (below) for your and their attention.

However your stated intention to stand against a UKIP candidate in elections is interesting and could explain some of your recent activity.

Thanks for letting me know. Please may I remind you, your Chairman and your Secretary via this email, that only candidates on the ‘National Approved List’ may go forward to a Constituency to be considered for selection as a Westminster Candidate for UKIP.

You are currently not on that list as you have not applied. If I can help with any other matter please do let me know. Pete Peter ReeveRegional OrganiserUKIP Eastern Counties reeve@ukip.org07792 290434Circular :
Subject: FW: Sat 29th Nov – valuable meeting date for your diary!þ

To all Branch Chairmen, (That we haven’t dishonestly removed) Westminster Prospective Candidates (That we haven’t dishonestly removed) and Prospective Local Candidates (That we haven’t dishonestly removed) We are very pleased to invite you to a full campaign briefing & discussion (Propaganda and spin rally to tell you a pack of lies?

We will also provide the latest fantasies in the Reichstag Fire Ploy to seize control of the party – your help is needed to aid this corruption) There will be senior party members present (That we haven’t dishonestly removed) who will give us details of the campaign plans and provide plenty of time for question and lies.

We will also have a full policy Question and Lie session, to go through any part of the manifesto or specific policy detail that you wish to discuss and address. Will Bannerman be resigning having lied to the party and brought EUroScepticism into disrepute and will he resign from his EU job that involves promoting the EU?

The aim of this meeting is to be an interactive session where senior party members can listen to your ideas and thoughts as well as provide answers to any questions that you have. I will provide details of the venue and full agenda very shortly. Please will you keep free in your diary for this valuable Reichstag rally.

Please do feel free to invite your branch officers and activists’ to come along and participate. If you have any queries please contact your Regional Organiser on (I’m not here to advertise corruption) Regards George Curtis Eastern Counties Chairman (Self Appointed Liar)

PS : We confirm that this an official UKIP meeting on CUT. We understand that some people may be inviting some branch chairmen etc. to an unofficial meeting in Newmarket (around 8th Nov) designed largely to attack the Party (NO Mr. Curtis you will find it is to expose liars like you).

They are attempting to disguise this as a meeting for activists, but we stress this is not official, not authorised, and no senior members will be present (Well that is a relief it will prevent them having to listen to liars like you or the sordid little desk delivery man Bannerman the liar, cheat and fraudster working for the EU).

We do recommend you attend this meeting. If you have any queries please do contact *******..[THE PHONE NUMBER THE LIAR GEORGE CURTIS GIVES IS THAT OF PETER REEVE ONE TIME RO BUT DESELECTED BY VARIOUS BRANCHES AND SUBJECT OF NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS TO THE NEC.] Peter Reeve lives with Lisa Duffy & her children and I gather a few of his – you will note La Duffy dishonestly gained her seat on the NEC and will no doubt be voting on the matter of Peter Reeve and the subject of those who have lodged legitimate complaints against Peter Reeve.

George Curtis’s phone number is: 01206 – 322 3221 Do phone him up and point out he is a liar and a coward and the meeting on the 8th. is very much official as it has been openly advertised with due notice

From: lenbay@tiscali.co.uk
To: reeve@ukip.org
CC: peterc@tomwisemep.co.uk; del1young@yahoo.co.uk; rebeldel@talktalk.net; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; johnwest81@hotmail.com; MartinHarveyONR@aol.com
Subject: meeting 29th Nov.
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:59:21 +0000

Peter please forward this to George Curtis. your actions in not inviting our branch chairman are at least diabolical and at best a downright insult.

I shall be standing in the local elections next year for Doddington and my name will go forward as PPC for NE. Cambs and I will do this with or without your sanction if need be as a independant. The actions of the present leadership and NEC, over the question of Mr. Abbott and Mr. Edmonds fill me with disgust and I am afraid if the present situation is not resolved preety damn quick I will become independant and stand against the official UKIP candidate and I know I have the following from the last election to make an impact.

I call on you both now in the interest of the party to stand down.

(DON’T BE SILLY LEN THESE ODIOUS CREEPS ARE LIKE THE COMMENT ON SH*t & BLANKETS – THEY ARE LIARS AND CHEATS BULLYS AND IN THIS FOR PERSONAL SELF GAIN. G.L-W.)
Then here is another letter the author of which I have removed as my NEC contact MIGHT not wish it to be known he had a copy of this 😉

Dear George Curtis

For one who has long been associated with an unelected “committee” to refer to the Newmarket meeting as you do in your postscript is laughably impertinent, in fact from anyone with any substance it would be slightly insulting.

The Newmarket meeting comprised grass roots members of the party most of whom have no political ambitions beyond the withdrawal of Britain from the E.U.. A number of us are members of long standing and of proven loyalty; far from wishing to damage the party we aim to strengthen it through the elimination of unconstitutional and undemocratic practises.

Nigel Farage has often said “This is a grass roots party.” and paid lip service to the debt owed to the “grass roots”. A modicum of leadership at N.E.C. level would have resolved our position long ago, instead we have been treated with condescension and disparagement.

This one is about the great arsehole of the East the liar, coward and general low life George Curtis and his dishonest attack on the meeting of the 8th. November – what a creep he is!
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:42:53 +0000The unelected chairman of an unelected committee has the nerve to attack an elected chairman for holding a meeting.

You couldn’t make it up.
John West

From: reeve@ukip.org
To: lenbay@tiscali.co.uk; kingcolehole@ntlworld.com; jan-clark@tiscali.co.uk; gscurtis@aspects.net
CC: del1young@yahoo.co.uk; rebeldel@talktalk.net; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; johnwest81@hotmail.com; martinharveyonr@aol.com
Subject: meeting 29th Nov.‏ & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:46:17 +0000
To Len Baynes,
Thanks for your email (Copy below), which I have forwarded to George Curtis as requested.

Your suggestion that I have not included Peter Cole in the circulation lists are inaccurate.

I have already explained to Peter Cole (and john West) in emails this morning that :

“Because we have been very successful in recruiting a large number of candidates in the Eastern Counties the advert has gone out in several batches and will be completed by the end of the week. I look forward to seeing you on the 29th Nov.”

I have also included a copy of the circular (below) for your and their attention. However your stated intention to stand against a UKIP candidate in elections is interesting and could explain some of your recent activity.

Thanks for letting me know. Please may I remind you, your Chairman and your Secretary via this email, that only candidates on the ‘National Approved List’ may go forward to a Constituency to be considered for selection as a Westminster Candidate for UKIP.

You are currently not on that list as you have not applied. If I can help with any other matter please do let me know.
Pete
Peter Reeve
Regional Organiser
UKIP Eastern Counties
07792 290434

Circular : from The Curtis chappie [*CUT* BORING!!!]

MORE!!!
From: lenbay@tiscali.co.uk
To: MartinHarveyONR@aol.com; johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: Fw: Selection of PPC
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:29:15 +0000

Having been through this process twice ,I am certain the branch acceptasnce comes first and then the selection panel or maybe I am getting senile, or heaven forbid Mr. Reeve has got it wrong yet again

—– Original Message —–
From: PETER REEVE
To: Len Baynes
Cc: jan baynes
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:21 PM
Subject: Selection of PPC

Len Please let me clarify. BEFORE you approach a branch for selection you MUST FIRST be on the National Approved list. This requires you to first apply to the process, then have an interview (The selection panel is organised by and includes the regional organiser). You will then be informed if you are on the approved list or not.

If you get onto the approved list – Then and ONLY then can you make an application to a constituency Association or Branch. Tom Wise, John West and Peter Cole all went through the process with varying outcomes and may be able to help you understand. I look forward to receiving your application form. If you require a copy of the form to complete, please let me know. I have again copied the Fenland Secretary into this email to confirm she is aware of the appropriate process.
Thanks.
Peter Reeve
Regional Organiser
UKIP Eastern Counties
reeve@ukip.org
07792 290434

From: lenbay@tiscali.co.uk
To: reeve@ukip.orgCC: peterc@tomwisemep.co.uk; MartinHarveyONR@aol.com; johnwest81@hotmail.comSubject:
Re: meeting 29th Nov.‏ & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:52:28 +0000

Peter again you get it wrong please read my E-Mail as it was intended I quote ” If this situation is not resolved preety damn quick I will become independant” That in your wildest dreams is not a statement of fact, I was in this party long before you had even been on the distant horizon and will not get out just to allaviate a thorn in your side. I am afraid I cannot make the 29th of November due to a family birthday in Enfield but I am confident I will be truthfully informed of proceedings by my chairman. As for my name on the national list it will be submitted when and if my branch select me and my chairman approves, I honestly think that is the right proceedure. But under the present situation I feel my call for you and Mr. Curtis to stand down is perfectly justified.

—– Original Message —–
From: PETER REEVE
To: Len Baynes ; peter cole(home) ; jan baynes ; george curtis
Cc: del1young@yahoo.co.uk ; derek norman ; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com ; john west ; martin harvey
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: meeting 29th Nov.‏ & Len Baynes intention to stand against UKIP in elections.

To Len Baynes,
Thanks for your email (Copy below), which I have forwarded to George Curtis as requested.
Your suggestion that I have not included Peter Cole in the circulation lists are inaccurate.

I have already explained to Peter Cole (and john West) in emails this morning that :

“Because we have been very successful in recruiting a large number of candidates in the Eastern Counties the advert has gone out in several batches and will be completed by the end of the week. I look forward to seeing you on the 29th Nov.”

I have also included a copy of the circular (below) for your and their attention. However your stated intention to stand against a UKIP candidate in elections is interesting and could explain some of your recent activity.

Thanks for letting me know. Please may I remind you, your Chairman and your Secretary via this email, t hat only candidates on the ‘National Approved List’ may go forward to a Constituency to be considered for selection as a Westminster Candidate for UKIP. You are currently not on that list as you have not applied.
If I can help with any other matter please do let me know.
Pete
Peter Reeve
Regional OrganiserUKIP Eastern Counties

It is amazing that with this sort of behaviour – the lies and dishonesty that was the scam to its cronies as PPCs for the EU where they were happy to fleece members for £250 to compete in a rigged election and then steal £1,000 from those they listed to do the hustings work with no chance, agreeing Farage can personally select the top candidates in each region in April.
JUST HOW STUPID ARE EUkip CANDIDATES
and where did Bannerman scrape up £1,000 or has he sold the desk!

EUkip leadership & NEC have admitted they are corrupt and that is why they refunded the money for breech of contract to several candidates who demanded it (including Lynnda Robson, Robin Page and no doubt others – at the moment I gather claims have been lodged in the Courts by others!).

They KNOW that EUkip hasn’t a leg to stand on as their internal report by their own Returning Officer clearly stated the election was corrupt and should be re-run by a trustworthy body as the Leadership had proved untrustworthy – which is why I published the facts.

I hope the honest members who turn up to the meeting later today will be able to make forward strides to clean up the party in the East working towards removal of liars, cheats, the corrupt, the self interested and the crooks – the likes of Bannerman, Reeve, Duffy, Gulleford, Titford, Curtis, Smith, Agnew, Whitmore & similar pond life attracted by the troughs on the gravy train.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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111* – Well Mr. Bannerman CLAIMS to be a Script Writer & IS Fuller on the Payroll?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/11/2008

#111* – Well Mr. Bannerman CLAIMS to be a Script Writter & IS Fuller on the Payroll?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip LEADERSHIP’S CORRUPTION & FARAGE’S REICHSTAG FIRE!

Talk about setting it up for a night of the long knives – the transparency is staggering!

But as you all know David Bannerman is a fantasist, fraud, liar and wanabe script writer, who is DESPERATE to have a proper job after so many years as a serial failure & bag carrier for the Tories – he must feel such a pratt having made such a fool of himself in EUkip.

There is a fun blog on the internet – do have a look and it is so redolent of some sort of childish plot Bannerman might dream up as a wanabe script writer, of Croucher in a determination to do Searchlight’s work for them and bring EUkip into disrepute or perhaps Fuller to get her revenge for Farage’s failure to get her what she wanted!

Anyway do read it as it is quite a well dreamed up fantasy that Farage & his corrupt cronies just might think they can get away with it – cunning, duplicitous and dishonest they are but no one ever said they were much beyond stupid and we all know they are terrified they will get their snouts kicked out of the EU’s feeding troughs.

Hi,watching Farage self destruct is getting to be a bit like shooting fish in a barrel.Firstly may I remind you that Nigel Farage, David Bannerman and their entire crew of corrupt self seeking self enriching scum that has seized control of EUkip – whether liars like Malcolm Wood, fraudsters, liars & cheats like Bannerman, Duffy and their ilk, womanising self enriching drunkards like Farage, spivs and nere do wells like Moran, the fundamentally untrustworthy like Mickelthwaite, the foul mouthed like Zucherman, Denny & Fuller, the self seekers & untrustworthy like Trevor Colman, Gawain Towler, the infatuated and the self seekers like Seymour, Oxley, Andreassen, Blob Feel Martinis etc. etc.

Nor the various hopeless and hapless puppets and muppets like NuttAll, Gill, Reeve etc. etc.Please NOTE the EUkip NEC where Farage started to implement his Reichstag Fire speech with the fantasies of BNP infiltration, the need to dispense with the Disciplinary Committee as it might be infiltrated with BNP and suspend the Constitution to make control of the party central having dispensed with the NEC as it may have infiltrators & until the party suits the ‘Glorious Leader’ the poor man is becoming deranged & paranoid – next he will have a dog called Blondy and be bedding his youngest cousins!

One has to laugh when you listen to the tapes of the NEC where they are tring to remove the people they have branded libellously as BNP – whether this is a case of:’

The lunatics firing The Doctors from The Asylum’
or:’
What need has a party on the verge of technical bankruptcy with a Doctor of Economics and when in such bad health of a Doctor of Medicine – they are possibly making way for a Doctor of Psychiatry & an abortionist!’

With apologies to those who are libelled I am publishing this as it clearly libels and defames me and just to show what depths of depravity EUkip Reichstag Fire Plan will sink!

NOTE:
Favoured EUkip village idiot posted the URL for this blog site at 08:48hrs. 02-Nov-08.

The main Reichstag Fire Plan was outlined at 08:11hrs. 03-Nov-08
The EUkip NEC meeting commenced at 13:00hrs. 03-Nov-08

Fearfull that some may have missed the scam & details Mark Croucher republished the URL yesterday not realising those with knowledge of the facts had seen right through it.

By the way their GUESS that I might have a Criminal Record is quite right – it is well known and I have spoken openly of it for years – do phone me for details if you like – I have a Section One FireArms Conviction on two counts in 1981?
one for possession of a firearm (handgun, pistol, automatic)
the second for 50 rounds of hollow point drilled, mercury filled magnum rounds.
‘Guilty as charged’ 😉
it was shipped back into Britain from Africa by professional packers, in error.
WOW what a revelation!
Just how corrupt are these people? Having access, not just to spent convictions, but also 27 years ago!

I also have another conviction for having permitted the local prison bait (47 convictions – John Farley roofer and pro. Rugby Player) at a children’s party I had organised in Chepstow he threatened me and then hit me!
I warned him if he hit me again it would be self defence if I killed him – he took a swing at me so I layed him flat on his back stunned.

His defence in Court was that I assaulted him inept and corrupt magistrate Councillor John Parker found me guilty – at appeal to Crown the judge appologised to me for the miscarriage, issued a rebuke to Chepstow Magistrates Bench and refunded my costs for both cases without receipts!

Yes I have a criminal record of which I am not remotely ashamed which is why they probably didn’t publish it knowing I have dined out on both stories for ¼ Century.

Last heard of John Farley was in a high security prison for having killed his son’s wife!

It’s the rest that would scare them 😉

I am aware of the facts relative to the fantasy published and will be happy to present anywhere convenient to me (health & time) to prove this entire fantasy is no more than a dishonest construct – seemingly to provide a small group of liars cheats and the corrupt in EUkip leadership to create a Reichstag Fire moment to trump up dishonest claims and outright lies about EUkip members with integrity, who are standing in the way by telling the truth.

NIGEL FARAGE IS A DISHONEST, CORRUPT, WOMANISING, PROFLIGATE, DUNK without morality, integrity or probity.

NIGEL FARAGE has surrounded himself with kindred spirits and gullible idiots, for his personal gain.

Enjoy the tale of fantasy and fabrication, which is Nigel Farage’s REICHSTAG FIRE moment.

REMEMBER – I am happy to appear on ANY public platform and confront the author of the following fantasy and will willingly dismantle and disprove every single solitary lie they have put forward to build their Reichstag Fire Moment – I would suggest Farage, Bannerman, Fuller, Croucher, NuttAll, Oxley, Zucherman & Denny bring their fantasies to the meeting with the identified author of the quoted blog
(suffice to say 78332211etc. who by law GOOGLE must identify to confirm my information – it is them upto those who have been libelled and defamed).

I shall NOT take legal action for three reasons:

1. Anyone of integrity or common sense knows the comments about me are largely lies with a large body of obvious lies built on one or two unrelated honest facts.

2. I have neither the time nor the money to prosecute criminals who will have dishonestly constructed themselves as men of straw, with no reputation or integrity to be besmirched.

3. I consciously set out on a patriotic basis to clean up a series of rat nests and septic tanks that they have tried to nip me and have thrown sh*t at me is nothing a good bath will not solve.

My Reputation, being founded on fact, is palpably strong enough over some 60 years of rigid integrity and indisputable honesty to withstand the onslaught of these sordid little people.

Enjoy The Fairy Stories: Monday, 3 November 2008

Abbott,
Edmonds, Lance-Watkins, Hockney, de Rook and Edwards

Stories reach the
Common Man of negotiations at a high level between the BNP and UKIP. Of
scurrilous e-mails from anonymous sources being sent to the membership. Of
shenanigans in the MEP selection process. Of attempts to rig NEC elections to
favour certain candidates. Of tapes of NEC meetings.UKIP 2009? No, UKIP 2004,
when almost the same scenario was played out. On the BNP team, the players were
the same: BNP leader Nick Griffin and his motley band of convicted criminals and
failed businessmen. On the UKIP team at that time were BNP mole Andrew Edwards,
standing in for Greg Lance-Watkins, and the Abbott/Edmonds double act of their
day, Damien Hockney and John De Rook. UKIP substitutes included one-time
Yorkshire chairman Michael Cassidy-Scutts, Tory agitator Martin Cole and the BNP
treasurer, John Brayshaw, parachuted into a defunct UKIP branch in Yorkshire as
chairman to lend credence to the plays. The BNP’s gameplan? Exactly the same as
this time around: an e-mail campaign calling for truth, honesty and integrity,
which accuses the entire leadership of more debauchery than Nero’s court,
culminating in an attempt to fiddle a list of BNP sympathisers, self-promoters
and ‘don’t care who helps as long as we win’ want-to-be’s to the top of MEP
lists and onto the NEC.Luckily in 2004, the plan was forestalled at the last
minute. The Common Man hears that Hockney managed to suppress the details by
issuing a writ for libel, despite using in his writ extracts from a tape of the
NEC meeting where the plot was exposed. The same tape would have defeated his
own libel action, because it was clear that the presenters of the NEC report
into the affair (then chairman David Lott and then communications director Mark
Croucher) did not accuse him of direct links to the BNP, only of being so
desperate to gain control of the party that he didn’t care who was helping him.
Edwards was thrown out of UKIP, as was Brayshaw, Cassidy-Scutts left, and Cole
disappeared without trace once his usefulness to the Tories in heading off a
UKIP advance ceased. Interestingly, Cole had worked with Alan Duncan MP at the
time his oil brokerage was breaking UN sanctions by selling oil to Yugoslavia.
The involvement of senior UKIP members was hushed up by the terms of the
politically expedient settlement of the libel action.The present day play bears
an uncanny similarity to the 5 year old one. This time, Mr Lance-Watkins’ is the
Mr Edwards, with his wide ranging leaks of NEC material supplied by Misters-
Abbott and -Edmonds. In a refinement of the BNP gameplan, which made up in
enthusiasm what it lacked in originality, long term infiltrators such as John
West and Martin Harvey were used to lend credence to the idea that there was a
problem with the MEP selection process. On this foundation, Lance-Watkins used
his extensive e-mail database, built up over many years interference in UKIP’s
internal affairs, to sow the same rumours that were used 5 years ago without
success, all leading to the appearance of Buster Mottram at UKIP’s NEC meeting
yesterday. Mottram was brought along by Martin Haslam, UKIP deputy treasurer, to
defend himself against charges of leaking information to the press, and
admittance for Mottram was gained by Misters- Abbott and -Edmonds using this
pretext. The trio then sat back and waited for the show to begin, having all
been party, with Mr Lance-Watkins, to the negotiations. Following earlier
experience, both Abbott and Edmonds taped the meeting, and immediately provided
the tapes to Lance-Watkins.The BNP’s offer was straightforward: ditch UKIP
Leader Farage, and enter an electoral pact, splitting the country between the
two parties. In 2004, it was the same except that the condition was to ditch
then UKIP Leader Roger Knapman. Then, the new leader would have been Damien
Hockney with Mr De Rook as deputy, while the current plan would have seen Mr
Edmonds heading up the remains of the party, with Mr Abbott as deputy.It all
began to fall apart when Mr Lance-Watkins proved unable once again to keep quiet
over the details and insisted on issuing an ultimatum at the end of the previous
week. In 2004, the end was very similar when Mr Edwards was caught out in a
similar way over John Brayshaw, allowing UKIP to expel them both before the trap
could be sprung. It is there that the similarites end, unfortunately. This time,
the BNP did have negotiations with senior UKIP figures in the persons of
Misters- Abbott and -Edmonds, and all those involved were aware of the others
and exactly what their game plan was. The ad-hoc nature of 2004 was replaced by
a much more determined approach with a concerted plan which, even though based
on the earlier version, shows that even the BNP can learn from their past
mistakes. The branch chairmen and ordinary members who fell for it this time
were as always in BNP plans expendable cannon fodder and useful fools. The real
changes were at the top. In 2004, Mssrs Hockney and De Rook were simply used
because they displayed enough naked ambition to not care where their help was
coming from. This time, the senior UKIP people were already closely linked to
the BNP, and were made aware of the other BNP pieces in play to avoid repetition
of earlier mistakes.Although the BNP appear the losers they have not really lost
that much. Abbott and Edmonds were about to be expelled as details of the
negotiations surfaced over the previous week or so, while Lance-Watkins BNP
links have become increasingly obvious in recent months to the point where even
his supporters are distancing themselves from him. The trick for the BNP now as
in 2004 is to try and turn the cleaning up process around, and make the
subsequent expulsions from UKIP of those who were involved in the negotiations
seem unfair and a part of a wider witch-hunt. If the game continues to play as
it did in 2004, UKIP members will see through such troublemaking.
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Sunday, 2 November 2008
Gregg
Beaman’s mysterious departure

Now the dust has died down about Gregg
Beaman’s mysterious departure as both NW Regional Organiser and lead candidate,
the truth is beginning to out. Strange to say it isn’t found on Mr Beaman’s own
blog which gives his noble reasons for standing aside, and which has now stopped
taking postings from anonymous users because their comments were getting a
little close to the truth of the matter. Even libertarianism has its bounds at
the edge of untrammeled free speech.Sources close to the anti-UKIP movement
within UKIP tell the Common Man that the real reason concerns an NEC member, a
laptop and Democracy Forum. Users of Democracy Forum should take a look at
postings by user name ‘Rosie’, who wrote “I saw how hard Greg Beaman worked when
he formed the branch I was in, and two or three nearby ones”, “Greg Beaman was
certainly the popular choice when I left the North West over a year ago now, and
I hear he still is as he has a long and solid track record”.The same forum
spends some time discussing Mr Beaman’s departure and how it was a conspiracy by
the leadership to get rid of him because Paul Nuttall was the preferred choice
for the number one slot in the North West.It will be interesting to see how they
react to the news that Rosie and Gregg Beaman are one and the same, gender
confusion notwithstanding. This less than earth-shattering piece of news came to
light when Mr Beaman returned a borrowed laptop, forgetting to remove the
incriminating evidence first, and wasting all his hard work, time and effort in
climbing the greasy pole as a regional organiser to get to the top of the list
while at the same time attacking the leadership anonymously via a public forum
and a series of contacts with people who are decidedly not UKIP’s greatest fans.
The subject of his attacks included then UKIP Chairman John Whittaker MEP, who
was a staunch supporter of Mr Beaman’s attempt to gain the number one slot on
the list, and UKIP Leader Nigel Farage MEP, who was responsible for his
paycheques.The face saving formula of allowing Mr Beaman to resign quietly
clearly isn’t working, as the Common Man hears that his involvement with the
anti-UKIP cause continues just as his vaguely worded blog entry leaves visitors
with the impression that UKIP had done something wrong. How his opposition to
UKIP taking seats in the European Parliament squares with the effort he put into
gaining first place on the list is matter for others to discuss but there was no
point of principle involved in using an MEP’s allowance to send out a regional
newsletter which was little more than a campaign mailshot or in using an
alter-ego to sing his own praises.
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Saturday, 1 November 2008
Trevor
Colman and foot in mouth disease

Much talk on Democracy Forum about TC
and an alleged smear campaign against him claiming he made racist comments.
Maybe, maybe not. It wouldn’t be the first time in his short career as an
MEP.News reaches us that at his welcoming meeting in Strasbourg he was enjoying
a chat with a fellow attendee, telling them how much he hated Farage, and how in
his days as a copper they knew how to deal with troublesome journalists who took
too much of an interest in such boring issues as police corruption – lock them
in a cell with a couple of burly PCs, and then beat the crap out of them.
Medecine to be repeated daily until cured. Other such indiscretions tumbled from
his lips, leaving a bemused European Editor of a national daily, for such was
his audience, wishing it had not been a private meeting because it would have
made a lovely front page.Not the first time such comments have been made by TC,
however. Another source tells the Common Man that he thought this would have
been an ideal way of dealing with Tom Wise, who he cleared, then smeared, then
cleared again shortly before Wise’s arrest.With friends like this to show UKIP’s
best face to the media, who needs enemies?
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Thursday, 23 October 2008
I see the
latest Greg Lance-Watkins rant has arrived in inboxes, including a significant
section devoted to the BNP. After republishing large parts of their website, he
thoughtfully finishes with a couple of lines about how bad they are, paying
special attention to how shocking it is that some of them deny the
holocaust.Strange that he should be so particular, as it was only two weeks ago
that he was fending off accusations that he himself supported holocaust deniers
after old e-mails from him surfaced praising organisations such as Al-Quaeda,
Hamas and the PLO, all of whom deny the holocaust.But as if that isn’t bad
enough, rumours also began to circulate about just how close his links to the
BNP were or are. Discussion on the Democracy Forum (formerly UKIP Forum) centred on how he apparently attempted to mislead a group of UKIP activists into
attending a political weekend at a local pub to which he had secretly invited
BNP leader Nick Griffin. His defence, amazingly, was that Nick Griffin had
phoned him and asked to attend – as if having the leader of Britain’s
blackshirts phoning up and inviting themselves around was somehow better than
having invited him.The actual cause of these revelations was a ding-dong between
him and former UKIP PR man Mark Croucher, who took umbrage at one rant too many
from the erstwhile Watkins. More apparently is due to come, as I understand
details of Watkins criminal record have recently come to light.
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Greg L-W.
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#110* – Did Mr. Mottram Provide Farage’s REICHSTAG Moment?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/11/2008

#110* – Did Mr. Mottram Provide Farage’s REICHSTAG Moment?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

Hi,

EUkip’s Ever Greater Shame

FIRSTLY:

“He (NIGEL FARAGE) told the BBC there had been an attempt “over many months” to infiltrate and try to “demoralise” UKIP members into thinking there was no
future without a deal with the BNP.”We had worked out who those people were,
that had infiltrated UKIP, we were on the verge of getting rid of them, and they
began to panic so they thought they would play their trump card.”The party says
it expects more people to leave within the next few months.”**END**

There is every good reason to believe that this is a total pack of lies – I base this on the willingness of Farage and those around him to lie, cheat and slander to keep their snouts in the troughs.

Interestingly one of Farage’s most dishonest supporters his over paid spin doctor and ex press officer Mark Croucher, who has done such harm to EUkip in his odious bullying and repetitive dishonesty whilst a paid servant of the party and whilst still having access to official minutes and similar confidential material presumably controlled by The Party secretary has let slip that clearly he is working directly for EUkip.

In Croucher’s attempt to rubbish a EUkip senior member he concedes, one might say officially, that the NEC elections were corrupt and the leadership election was also corrupt (well we all knew that but he bases his confession on a lie!).

Now let us look at some factual history.Ms. Holdsworth resigned mostly over the issue of the refusal of Farage and his cronies on the gravy train to provide transparent accounting or responsible behaviour as they refused to let it be known to the NEC what staff the party had, or what their MEPs did all week.

She also refused to accept the abuse and childish behaviour that was prevalent amongst the self seeking MEPs who had seemingly abandoned the members and gone native.

Also having been thwarted in attempts to establish the truth of the criminality of Tom Wise as subsequently published in the media.Part of her final contribution to EUkip was to establish a more competent structure starting with a new and more professional constitution – which she did, working with the few competent members on the NEC.

Unfortunately after she resigned the constitution was tampered with by others damaging large tracks of its intent and its accountability to members. The demarcations between that which was professionally drawn up and the amateur alterations can be seen by the informed reader.

Subsequent to the Chairman’s resignation legal advice would seem in the main to have been supplied by The Party Secretary whose competence and professionalism can be seen by the fact that he signed off the shoddy alterations, has little or no control of either his personal ambitions or his mouth.

Further astonishingly as Party Secretary he is willing to act with undeclared and morally contemptible conflict of interest in allocation of legal work.

However one can tell the calibre of his professionalism as a solicitor and the calibre of his competence in terms of legal advice – surely only a fool of the proportions of Rachel Oxley or Douglas Denny would tender such low grade legal advice as to have EUkip found guilty in the courts rather than act competently and honestly – surely it was his duty to protect the party against the lies, dishonesty and clearly breeches of law by Andrew Smith as accountant when he deserted his position of trust leaving the accounts in a shambles having clearly been involved in dishonesty with Nigel Farage, David Lott and others.

Only a fool would ignore legal challenges and threats of substance such as tampering with internet eMails in trust, criminal breech of the Data Protection Act, rigging of elections, orchestration of a corrupt and dishonest enquiry by Trevor Colman who was so dishonest he refused to carry out his duty as a citizen let alone a retired police officer.

Then to further bring EUkip into disrepute Farage has failed to keep the lid on his garbage can Croucher, or the sordid behaviour he has been involved in himself.Similarly the fact that Bannerman who is a proven liar, fraud and cheat is deputy leader and in the employ of the EU is a measure of the manner in which EUkip would seek to lead or represent if voted into any office.

Farage must be cock a hoop if not in collusion with Mr. Mottram!For some months as EUkip has ‘milled’ all but leaderless with collapsing membership, near vanished activists, delusional half baked policies, lost and leaderless there have been endless criticism of the incompetence of the NEC & Leadership manifest in endless lies and cover-ups, profligacy with other people’s money, untrusted and clearly untrustworthy accounts, surrounded by spivs & parasites in Farage’s entourage of chavs and trash that brought nothing but shame to the party EXCEPT sycophantic adulation of ‘Our Glorious Leader’ whose competence is quite clearly limited to a series of sound bites, a few 90 second speeches and 3 tub thumping speeches we have all heard ad naseam – all 3 cigarette papers end on end they are now so thin!

During the last few weeks Farage and his cronies have desperately trying to blame their palpable incompetence on something ANYTHING other than their total incompetence – finally sickened by the lies he had to put his name to John Wittacker resigned and Farage put in a puppet – a measure of this shaven headed Liverpool scally’s competence was that at his first meeting as chairman the police had to be called to restore order.

Godfrey Bloom had to be restrained and finally the chairman himself surrounded by the foul language of the Party secretary, the childish Denny, the risible Clark in a tantrum, the meeting collapsed with the Chairman looking like a maggot on a spring bright red with anger reverting to his roots and threatening to attack Mr. Mottram.

The meeting and Farage’s subsequent idiotic comments about the BNP were such that it left Clive Page in the press office desperately trying to keep EUkip out of the courts phoning around to assure people that the comments about the BNP had no connection with the kangaroo court and unconstitutional and morally reprehensible abuses aimed at preventing John West, Dr. Abbott & Dr. Edmond from representing some 6,000 members who asked them to represent them and clean up EUkip and start by cleaning out the rats nest of corruption supporting EUkip’s catastrophic leader and the liar, cheat and fraud Bannerman.

The attempt to present a solution to EUkip’s impecunity with a mere £45,000 in the bank and pending forfeitures and costs that may run to between £500,000 & £1,000,000 from the lies of Farage, Smith etc. and the crass legal advice, presumably from the imbecilic Zucherman that has led to this position.

Realising that there is every possibility that before the courts come collecting on this the first calamitous legal action. Then there are the costs and fines that may well accrue from the various legal cases being brought by the police, OLAF, DPA and others – leading to probable subsequent cases founded on likely guilty verdicts such as any damages claims made by Robin Page, John West and others displaced by kangaroo court hijackings and unelected committees running out of control by excercising authority they do not have.

Of course there is every possibility that EUkip will be forced to act honestly and follow the advice of its appointed Returning Officer which would lead to refunding some £20,000 so far obtained by false pretences and then re-run the selection process honestly this time with it overseen by an outside agency that can be trusted as it was clear from the report that the NEC, Leadership and staff can not be trusted.

One wonders if the NEC are aware that under law the NEC is the banker of last resort – let us see just how much of a fool Alan Bown is – will he pay for the bad advice, the lies and incompetence of Andrew Smith, Nigel Farage, David Lott and others?

Will he fund such legal costs as are mounting on other cases, will he pay the damages ALL incurred by Nigel Farage as leader and the utter incompetence of his team.May I presume to advise Dr. Abbott, Dr. Edmond & John West – make absolutely no effort to regain your rightfull seats on the NEC and I would advise Del Young to find a way to leave with haster.

The NEC has 15 members I believe however looking at those who are proud to accept liability for EUkip’s potential debts I note there are now 10 – so that will be debt divided by 10? Well no actually as probably you will find, since I understand the law states that the matter is jointly and severally!

So will Farage pay up? – well I doubt it as he always moans he has no money and is not recorded as a donor even to EUkip, anyway the money he has ‘acquired’ is recorded as off shore!

Then there is Bannerman and all he is worth after many years as a bag carrier of little significance and openly stated as desperate for the job of MEP, thus probably a man of straw – nothing there then.

Zucherman a different case and I presume together with Oxley responsible for the legal opinions seemingly of similar calibre but I would hazard a gues the courts are unlikely to persue Oxley considering her of little substance in view of how much may be owed!

Then consider the likelihood that it would be worth going to Liverpool to collect off of our puppet scally.

That leaves Denny, who although a serial liar I incline to believe his claim he owns nothing, Delboy was unable to provide a CV during the leadership election which was the only reason I campaigned to expose him, as there was always the risk with a chappie who was unknown and unwilling to state or show a CV that they MIGHT have just arrived from St. Quintin or Njemina Prison!

Duffy, well having had to lie and cheat to get on the NEC and with merely the talents to work on the floor in a down market store one would probably be safe assuming she would be unlikely to fund the debts especially with numerous kids and no husband! Her fellow MAY be liable under law but as an RO about all he could muster in clout was the ability to remove those who campaigned and provide contacts that may well get one’s partner electedto the NEC

Jill Seymour well I’m sure her husband will be happy to chip in and since it is jointly and severally it would seem that Seymour, Zucherman, Bown & Gill are the most likely to have to pay up in full or in part – as decided by the Court but I’m sure Denny, Duffy, Nuttall, Bannerman & Farage will be happy to stump up their share!

Perhaps Mr. Mottram’s rather lame suggestion of an electoral pact has played right into Nigel Farage’s hands as this would seem to be his Reichstag Fireshudder, wriggle, fear we are under attack by the BNP – so what!

Is EUkip so very weak that the vile BNP is really a threat! – have Farage and his gang so alienated the members of EUkip that even the revolting BNP may be a better option?

Now just a minute – the mere suggestion in the 5 minutes allotted to Mr. Mottram by Farage should have left EUkip with the upper hand as after 5 minutes a competent chairman could have stepped in and graciously thanked Mr. Mottram, asked him if he would care to remain as an observer or leave with his friend Mr. Hasslam.
A clear and unequivocal rejection by the chairman or Farage would have sufficed and a brief clarification as to why that was unacceptable and then just for clarity I believe a vote would have sealed the matter
– Further thanks, a 3 minute break before returning to constructively representing the interests of the remaining members.

BUT NO this was permitted to get totally out of hand with Zucherman making racist outbursts accusing a long term member invited to speak by the leader of being a ‘Nazi’!!

We also have this professional solicitor later on using the F*** word openly as representation of the members in a mixed meeting of EUkip’s management committee!

Similarly Denny & Clarke were near hysterical, Oxleys manners were those of the gutter and Bloom & Nuttall were taking it in turns to threaten to thump people!

Just as a point of interest, in view of the many thoroughly decent members I have met over the years – just where do you find these trash?

Do you really believe they represent ANY British Values of note – liars, bullies, foul mouthed, drunks, womanisers, cheats, frauds – how very proud you must be to be represented by such people!

How very very convenient for Farage to seek to blame his utter incompetence and the behaviour of his failed team on the BNP – I guess he believes in the tooth fairy too!EUkip is no more under attack from the BNP than it is ignored by the 2 main parties who like the media have discounted EUkip as an irrelevance in British politics since they have stuffed the filing draws of the media and filled their hard disks with enough stories to be able to produce them if need be during the election but of no interest at the moment.

Farage occupies the BBC’s 3 or 4 Question Time slots a year – you will note the BBC will be ale to leave EUkip out during the electoral period as having had their quota and anyway you only have one tried and tested performer and he has been on a lot last year!

Wake up and smell the coffee – Farage and his antics has destroyed any hope EUkip once had.

Then the lunacy of seemingly being unable to find an accountant of repute to do the books in Britain – or is this more Reichstag Fire – do we await the announcement of irresponsibility that in trawling the books around the continent just to hire some political prostitute who has tried to hire out almost anywhere to get her snout in the EU trough, seemingly Farage offered to ‘squeeze’ her in even though she does believe the EU is a good idea and just needs a bit of changing – too right she has NOTHING in common with Britain or the values of UKIP’s grass roots members.

Not a bad bit of ‘squeeze’ when it comes to it – a part time job without responsibility where the cheques are sent to you in Barcelona, Brusells, Strasbourg, Denmark or wherever the weather suits her, signed and then sent back for distribution! – it would seem to be obscenely over paid when you consider the organisation had £45,000 according to whoever actually does the books – the treasure gets £36,000+ and expenses we understand – not bad when you consider previous treasurers did at least claim to be interested in the cause and worked pro bono.

It could be argued in view of the professional incompetence & dishonesty of Andrew Smith and the disaster he has exposed EUkip to, EUkip should have paid a professional, but what is wrong with one OF REPUTE from Britain, or is Farage’s reputation such that no one wants the job?

I presume the purpose of Farage’s Reichstag Fire was to scream BNP or Tooth Fairy or some such, we are under attack (that’s politics idiot!), then he will set up his ‘Enabling Act’ set aside the Disciplinary Committee claiming they can’t be trusted and the Tooth Fairy might have invaded!

Next it will be for the sake of the Party because we are under invasion by the Viet Kong or Winnie The Pooh or something (more likely Pink Elephants in Farage’s case – delerium tremens may account for his shakes!), we must suspend the Constitution until after the elections and as the NEC can’t be trusted because someone made a suggestion (A MEMBER Nigel Farage invited to make a 5 minute presentation of his idea!).

Infamy Infamy he screeched like a latter day Kenneth Williams we must suspend the NEC, well nothing ever got done there! – Farage already has a corrupt and dishonest group called the Political Committee, hand picked yes men and useless puppets.

Beware The Reichstag Fire – well actually no this is more a bonfire of his vanity as he makes ever more of a fool of himself.Farage – YOU ARE A JOKE – quite a good performing monkey as I’ve always said, but as a leader totally out of your depth and you know what that looks like you watched your puppet Nuttall and your little army of useless muppets on Monday – what a Co** U*

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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#107* – EUkip Puppets Now On Chains?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/11/2008

#107* – EUkip Puppets Now On Chains?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

Hi,

TUESDAY 4th-Nov-2008 YET MORE NAILS IN EUkip’s FINAL COLLAPSE IN DISGRACE

I note the desperate mess EUkip are getting in unable to rebut a single fact I have published Nigel’s little goffer has had to troll through his searchlight records and hunt through Google and Mark Croucher hasn’t been able to come up with a single substantive item against me that hasn’t long since been kicked way into touch as unmitigated nonsense.

They are now so desperate that Mark Croucher has had to recycle old lies he has used before, I note he even repeats the same errors when before it was proved his understanding of English usage merely made a fool of him:
Do try to remember what EMPATHISE means Croucher!

Little Mark Croucher was too stupid to grasp the concept last time the nonsense he was spouting was shown to be absolute tosh.

Try not to keep making a fool of yourself though I do understand your need to be seen to be performing for your master – that you again make a fool of yourself with rehashed repetition of debunked drivel speaks volumes – I guess repeating lies is a hazard of being owned by another man and having to sing for your supper.

Croucher do go away and play with your drinks you are just becoming a sad figure of ridicule and pitied by all but a few gullible idiots, like ANYONE who thinks you were EVER value for money – you are just a figure of pity leaping up and down to earn your crust.

Back to the FACTS and let us try to ignore inadequates and their lies.

I have just received this from my EU contact, and had it confirmed, I understand it was sent out quite a while ago and you will note it endorses virtually every aspect of what I have stated about EUkip’s dishonest NEC meeting and the shouting, bullying and incompetence of those set up as puppets to control it.

The staggering thing is these liars and cheats frauds and spivs in the leadership are again and again proven to be low lifes of no credibility some even criminal and it is proven – there are numerous legal cases they have brought upon themselves and it is looking increasingly certain that they are about to be hit with a bill in the region of £500,000 to £1,000,000 and their only consequential backer is beginning to wake up and realise he has been taken for the mug he clearly is – just turned upside down by a bunch of self serving spivs to have his pockets emptied – laughed about behind his back for his gullibility and when it comes to the crunch cut adrift to face The Judicial Review alone!

I believe it would be an honourable action on the part of Alan Bown to refuse to pay for the dishonesty and incompetence of Andrew Smith and David Lott and the idiotic weenie waggling of the massively insecure Nigel Farage. The three of them having irrefutably personally incurred this debt.

If I was Dr. Abbott, Dr. Eric Edmond, John West or Del Young I for one would be consulting Councel for a sound ‘Opinion’ as to how best to ensure I was NOT on the NEC as the NEC are bankers of last resort and thus Jointly & Severally liable for the debts of The Party.

Does Brian Seymour know his wife’s ambitions with Farage’s corrupt crew could cost him £100s of £1,000s similarly the Weasle Rachel Oxley with her knickers stuffed with her legal opinions to glibly distribute.

I wonder will they pursue the shaven headed Liverpool Scally Farage has put in as his puppet or the undeniably corrupt Bannerman or perchance that other man of straw and liar Douglas Denny or the cheat and clearly corrupt Lisa Duffy or will the Courts and bailiffs go straight for Farage, Bown, Seymour & Zucherman as obviously sufficient for the funds and let them chase after the others for their cut!!

For what portion will The Treasurer be responsible as a foreign National who lives in Spain?

Well anyway here is the report from the NEC:

David Abbott’s ‘charges’ were sent at 7:30 pm on Sat 1st Nov so not a lot of
notice for the trial on Mon Nov 3rd at 1 pm. [Interestingly I
received my NEC copy before David who had only that day flown from Canada
for the NEC meeting – G. L-W.].

Neither David or I were able
to defend ourselves as the meeting had degenerated to an utter farce and both of
us we being subjected to tirades of abuse and I felt I was in danger of physical
assault.

Martin Haslam brought Buster Mottram who also wanted
to talk about donors to the party and also to act as his McKenzie
friend to reply to Fargage’s demand for Martin’s resignation as Deputy Treasurer
for the crime of talking to the press.

I challenged Farage on this
and he admitted that he, Farage, had set the whole thing up with the journalist
concerned to entrap Martin Haslam or as Farage put it to ‘test his
loyalty’.

I told Farage I found his act desplicable as did David
Abbott and we both left along with Martin Haslam, Buster Mottram. Why should we
be judged in a kangaroo court by such a man and his placemen and women? We have
done no wrong. Del Young left a few minutes after us feeling the same
way.

Farage is trying now to smear us as being BNP. Neither I,
David or Martin have ever been in the BNP or supported the BNP.

I
challenge Nuttall to produce with sources the evidence to back his statement
that I or David spoke in public against UKIP or its NEC

Martin
Haslam is one of the best and most honest men you could hope to meet and has
given around £15000 to UKIP that I know of.

I gather a tape
recording of the meeting exists so you should hopefully be able to hear for
yourself

I need scarcely add that Mottram’s expulsion from UKIP
gave him no hearing or right of defence as in the UKIP
constitution

Eric Edmond

Clearly based upon the sequence here, which bears out my earlier statement of Fact, it would seem that since 4 members of the NEC had left the NEC BEFORE the vote commenced – The NEC was ‘In Quorate’ to act as a kangaroo court and obviously Zucherman who had been speaking of the PLANNED outcome at HMS Belfast and Bannerman who has placed himself in litigation with an NEC member yet dishonestly drew up the trumped up charges and also is NOT a legal or legitimate member fit to hold office they also MUST in all conscience Recuse themselves.

Arguably Rachel Oxey should recuse herself as she lodged a dishonest complaint AND has published her legal opinion on these matters.

With certainty Lisa Duffy should be recused as she only gained her position on the NEC as did Bannerman by dishonesty and deceit.

There is absolutely no doubt the meeting was ‘Inquorate’ by ANY normal standards of Justice!It may dishonestly be claimed that a meeting can not be MADE inquorate by the departure of persons who were there at the commencement however as the liar Denny has put in writing this IS acceptable on EUkip’s NEC and the precedent was set when John Wittaker in a morally underhand way withdrew during a meeting to ensure his wishes carried by making the meeting inquorate at that time.

No challenge was heard from The Chairman (Nuttall – Farage’s puppet), The Party Secretary (The ridiculous Zucherman), The Deputy Leader (The farcical liar David Bannerman) or the Leader (why would Farage act when surrounded by his puppets?) at that time. Thus the precedent is irrefutable.

Thus I would contend that the proceedings of The EUkip NEC on Monday 3rd. November 2008 are null and void. Void and of no consequence: Let the minutes show with honesty that no decisions were reached at the NEC as it was unfit to vote.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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#106* – EUkip Puppet Chairman Proves He Is An Rse!!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/11/2008

#106* – EUkip Puppet Chairman Proves He Is An Rse!!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

TUESDAY 4th-Nov-2008 ANOTHER NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF EUkip’s FINAL COLLAPSE IN DISGRACE

AN ATTEMPT TO LITE THE REICHSTAG FIRE for FARAGE’S CLAQUE!

Hi,

What a fool Nigel’s pet Liverpool scally has made of himself – not even enough brains for fertiliser to grow hair! This shaven headed chav is a fiasco.

Yesterday in a display of farsical incompetence this little chappie dragged EUkip ever further into the gutter bringing the Party into disrepute when despite having the joke leader in a brief interlude from Brussels and whoring his way around the bars Farage actually deigned to turn up and even the liar, fraud and cheat Bannerman was there to carry out his masters bidding like a good little poodle – ever the gofer just as he was in the Tories for whom he may well still work because he has proved in EUkip that his fraudulent claims have so discredited him that he is neither use nor ornament merely providing the meeeeja with a plethora of material for the election.

With the clear evidence now in the public domain that with 20+ NEC and assorted parasites from Brussels EUkip couldn’t even manage their own meeting and had to call the Police due to incompetence.

The shouting and screeching on the tapes – the utterly out of control behaviour of supposedly grown me and the general chavvery would have been hilarious if it was coming from filth like the BNP but no it was yet another resounding betrayal by EUkip’s leadership of the standards members had hoped for.

Imagine having to call the Police to restore order at a EUkip NEC meeting – and these people expect people to vote for them?

Then along come Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dee on Anthony Butcher’s forum – the only platform they can find for their lies and try to discredit the truth and the constant supply of facts I publish.

My track record of opposing extremist racist and anti Jewish organisations goes back to when the liar and puppet of Farage’s Croucher was still in nappies – unlike Croucher I have absolutely no association with any extremist political organisations, nor have I been the paid parasite in a political party.

Further I have been promised (Immediately before I published my report on the corrupt ravings of EUkip and its dishonest spin on their debacle) that neither Dr. Eric Edmond nor Dr. David Abbott had any idea whatsoever that this idiot Mottram had any idea or intent to come up with his idiotic proposition.

Do not forget that the long term benefactor Martin Hasslam who has been for some time acting as Treasurer and was presented by Farage and others as trustworth and sound as a donor of money and time and totally professional as Treasurer without a known blemish on his character had brought a little known celebrity of yesteryear to the meeting – a EUkip member who had been promoted to the public by EUkip’s leadership as a prized member of EUkip.

I doubt if Martin Hasslam had any idea that Mottram would so deliberately let him down – he was brought as a witness that Farage had acted despicably in setting out to entrap Martin Hasslam.

Unsolicited I phoned Dr. Edmond and Dr. Abbott, I was not prepared to back their cause in any way if they knew Mottram was planning to proselytise scum like the BNP. Both Dr. Edmond & Dr. Abbott assured and promised that they did NOT KNOW and clearly both individuals are far more believable than Mark Croucher who is a serial liar, paid low life acting from time to time for scum like Farage who have so betrayed the peoples of Britain, the members of EUkip and the entire EUroSceptic movement.

Based on proven track record and personal experience there is absolutely no reason to believe Croucher who has lied on many occasions on a regular basis – the comments of Mr.Angry the village idiot are of no consequence he is nothing more than another trash publican with a bullying attitude willing to lie for Farage.

FACE FACTS and start to realise in all the years I have been supporting UKIP and now trying to clean up EUkip never ever once have any of the low life and parasites that hang around EUkip for the crumbs nor all the lawyers and all the money of EUkip to fund lawyers NEVER ONCE has it been established that I have EVER lied nor has there EVER been a single solitary iota of evidence led by any of these liars that can show I have any ties with or have EVER in any way supported the BNP or any other racist or extreme organisation.

KNOWING & HAVING CONCLUSIVELY PROVED Mark Croucher is a liar and a cheat and Bob would struggle to understand what is going on around him let alone recognise he is being treated as Farage’s village idiot – I am left with no alternative but to believe on ALL the evidence that Dr. Abbott & Dr. Edmond are telling me the truth – nor have I one shred of evidence to support any contention that they are telling lies where there is clear evidence that EUkip & particularly Mark Croucher are telling outright lies.

They are after all liars and sadly they have found a Forum where the Owner is prepared to provide a platform for their libels and lies unchallenged.
corrup, dishonest and dishonourable Anthony Butcher on what was UKIPForum ever willing to support lies and dishonesty about me yet unwilling to permit correction defence or the truth.

Dear Branch Chairmen,

Some of you will have been contacted over the last few days with an attempt to destabilise the party.

Would that be the deliberate lies, bullying and dishonesty from the fraud and liar David Bannerman or were you thinking of the lies and dishonesty of one of EUkip’s other appointed officers – or even perhaps the liar Mark Croucher or were you thinking of some other untruth EUkip has tried to peddle like the dishonest listing of chosen MEP candidates?

At today’s NEC meeting the real agenda was revealed.

Oh indeed it was and what a pack of lies EUkip came out with – they even turned the NEC into a kangaroo court and listened to the serial liar and fraudulent ex Tory Bannerman.

Though not invited to attend, Buster Mottram

This is a deliberate lie as Mr. Mottram was invited by the EUkip benefactor and assistant treasurer Martin Hasslam as a witness of fact in his defence in a trumped up and dishonest attempt, admitted by Farage, to ‘set him up’.

came to the meeting at the request of Martin Haslam,

So NuttAll you admit your first statement was a lie.

to represent him in relation to the proposition to remove the post of Deputy Treasurer.

Another lie as we all know that Martin Hasslam was set up by Farage in a dishonest and shamefull attempt at entrapment that again brings EUkip into disrepute.

Mr. Mottram was told that he had no right to speak at the meeting

Since when has even a kangaroo court refused to permit the accused a defence – come to think of it 1933 Germany! Joseph Stalin! Chairman Mau! Robert Mugabe! (quite a few really – including the kangaroo court against Peter Baker by the pond life and liar Douglas Denny with the dishonest and corrupt Derek Clark who has so undeniably defrauded the tax payers and betrayed Britain, I well remember!).

but insisted that he had something else important to say.

You will note that both the party so called leader Farage and his puppet had permitted Mr. Mottram to enter the meeting and Mr. Mottram is a paid up member of EUkip and has been used by EUkip’s leadership to promote the party.

A truce with the BNP was Buster Mottram’s intention whereby the BNP would contest the North of England and we would contest the South in the European elections next year.

I am promised that Dr. Abbott & Dr. Edmond were unaware that Mottram would be so foolish and I have no reason to believe so dedicated a benefactor of EUkip as Hasslam would have permitted this wittingly.

I do appreciate that Mottram might have some reason to believe his utterly foolish suggestion might meet with approval since Farage has from time to time had dalliance with extremist individual and his election agent is from the national Front and I believe the same ex National Front member is supporting Farage’s money spinner in Ramsgate.

Farage has undeniably in the past had association with members and has employed people like Croucher who had and probably has links with extremist political groups.

He said that Nick Griffin had agreed to this

We only have Mr. Mottram’s word for this I understand and there has been no formalisation by anyone of any consequence in the BNP. Filth that the BNP are I do NOT believe that this was a serious plan by their poisonous leader as revolting as he may be he is not without low guile and would not for a moment seriously approach such a pact in so inept a manner using such a loud, unreliable and bombastic nobody as Mottram – disgusting as Griffin is there is no doubt he is NOT an idiot!

but the deal could not work if Nigel Farage remained leader of UKIP.

This has much merit to it in view of the catastrophic incompetence and total inability of Farage to lead, his weakness and childish insecurity – But I am morally certain that if Griffin WAS involved in this he was no more than mischief making and playing on Mottrams over blown ego as a useful idiot.

Mottram has proved he lacked the competence or political nouse to get anywhere near first base on this issue – I suggest he goes back to bat and ball which I believe he had once mastered!

Accordingly Branch Chairmen were being contacted with a view to calling an EGM to remove Nigel Farage.

I understand this is true but I have no reason to believe those doing so have ANY pretentions to overt racism and anti Judaism which are the founding principles of the BNP which they refuse to repudiate – it is founded on the money borne of ritual murder of some 4-5,000 young men just because they were black a policy the BNP’s favoured friends and founding funders carry on to this day yet are NOT renounced by the obvious scum attracted to such practices and the BNP.

This offer was unanimously rejected by the NEC.

Which – the idiotic claimed BNP so called deal or the desire by many branches of UKIP to disassociate themselves from the lies, chavvery, corruption, fraud, dishonesty and lack of probity which is the leadership and NEC of EUkip?

Buster Mottram was expelled from UKIP after being removed from the meeting by uniformed police officers.

Because Farage’s puppet the little Liverpool scally was unable to control the meeting and commanded so little respect due to his immaturity, incompetence and risible lack of experience that he could not even control his own members. It was a disgracefull show of incompetence and as admitted got so out of hand the Police had to be called! & this shower want to be taken seriously by the electorate!!

Further to this the NEC voted to remove Eric Edmond and David Abbott as NEC members.

Clearly NuttAll had so clearly lost the plot by this stage that he was unaware that both Dr. Edmond, Dr. Abbott, John West & Del Young had left the meeting in disgust at its behaviour wanting no part of such atrocious behaviour.In their absence the shameful residue like the people of Hartlepool of yore held a kangaroo court and tried the monkey!

Drs. Abbott & Edmond were to be unconstitutionally and dishonestly tried without benefit of defence, witnesses or support in a manner yet again redolent of Beria and the KGB, Putin & The Olygarchs.

Perhaps this sad little chav from Liverpool can scratch his brain cell and clarify to all just what aspect of decent British values this behaviour falls under and in what way this dishonesty represents Justice.Just what is the purpose of this new sleeze ridden EUkip as it represents nothing any individual of integrity or morality would wish to uphold! Are you even capable of naming a majority on your sordid failed committee who have any moral AND legitimate right to be there?

In fact can you name a single member of this baying claque who by their behaviour has NOT brought EUkip into disrepute – JUST ONE!

They have both publicly opposed NEC decisions time and again

Yet your gaulleitter the fraud, liar and cheat Bannerman who contra the Constitution is an employee of the EU and still may well be in the pay of the Tories in view of the dishonesty and damage he is doing EUkip – even this piece of filth could not dream up a single solitary example of substance to back this lie. I shall be publishing, at my convenience the serial lies used in the trumped up charges. They were supplied to me by a member in the EU and confirmed as genuine by an NEC member in Britain.

and have made the NEC dysfunctional.

No the NEC has proved it is dysfunctional I have the tapes to prove it – the reason the NEC is dysfunctional is twofold – firstly the unutterably squalid and dishonest members who are on it – secondly the proven incompetence of its chairman, leader, deputy leader or Party secretary to control its outrageous ill mannered childish posturings such that the Metropolitan Police have to be called to restore order!

The post of Deputy Treasurer was removed and Martin Haslam thanked for his past efforts.

This is a lie – a figleaf to disguise the dishonest behaviour of the leader in an openly admitted entrapment scam.

The NEC will now act as a united body to get us ready to fight the big campaign next year.

Mr. NuttAll any honourable man would resign having presided over such a catastrophic display of incompetence but we know you are without honour and you have shown you are without competence and clearly you are without integrity and it is proven you are without skill – just a sad little puppet with broken strings.

It really is farcical when we know you strut around deceiving yourself that when Farage falls as leader as he surely has you might assume the mantle.Grow up you idiotic little man!

You are being used!

You are a laughing stock the little lad so hopelessly out of his depth he had to call the Police a child who had to call the grownups to restore order at his little party – What a shameful farce!

Yours sincerely,

Paul Nuttall (UKIP Party Chairman)

What a joke this little chappie is!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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#105* – EUkip Leadership Faces MORE PAGES Of Shame!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/11/2008

#105* – EUkip Leadership Faces MORE PAGES Of Shame!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

TUESDAY 4th-Nov-2008 ANOTHER DAY OF SHAME IN THE FINAL COLLAPSE OF EUkip IN DISGRACE

Hi,

In this instance I do feel that it was not appropriate to source these letters to the NEC from Del Young, Dr. Eric Edmond, Dr. David Abbott or Martin Hasslam as already dishonest and corrupt attempts founded on the testimony of proven liars, frauds and cheats including the unarguably corrupt and dishonest drunken womaniser Nigel Farage.

And the fraud and indisputably dishonest and corrupt David Bannerman, the foul mouthed corrupt liar Douglas Denny, Farage’s sad little puppet the Liverpool Scally NuttAll, the odious and utterly bouvine Oxley, the dishonest cheat Lisa Duffy and the restof the pond life in EUkip’s leadership NEC.

Therefore I used one of my contacts in the EU and ensured the veracity of the letters from a source in the UK.

EUkip under the present dishonest and crass leadership and NEC is finished help bury the body rapidly before the rotten stench pollutes the entire Patriotic movement and ends us dragging any more decent and staggeringly naive people into the arms of the revolting racist and anti Jewish BNP which has refused to repudiate its racist roots and its association with the disgusting American White Supremacist Movement funded the naiscent BNP’s origins in the National Front where the ritual murder of 4-5,000 mostly young men was the grounding that gained the cash that was the funding of the BNP today – without these 5,000 murders just because these young men were black – just as the funding of Lady Birdwood was predicated on her anti Jewish stance.

The BNP is a sordid and revolting organisation that refuses to repudiate their roots – knuckle dragging liars like Mark Croucher, liars like Denny, self seeking rascals like Zucherman, frauds like Bannerman, cheats like Lisa Duffy, idiots like Rachel Oxley and the weak and dishonest like Christopher Gill and others that have floated to the top of EUkip’s septic tank and their dishonest and corrupt assistants like Anthony Butcher, the liar Malcolm Wood, Stuart Agnew, Marta Andreassen, Gawain Towler and the indisputable bent retired copper Trevor Colman are beyond doubt little more than recruiting sergeants for the BNP in their dishonesty, leaving the lost adrift having betrayed them.

SHAME ON YOU ALL FOR YOUR SELF SERVING BETRAYAL OF THESE UNITED KINGDOMS & THE DECENT PEOPLE OF UKIP

Dear members of the NEC.

Out of courtesy I am sending you a copy of a letter sent to the Information Commissioner. I am also sending one to the Electoral Commission concerning your general behaviour which is bringing the whole of the anti-EU movement into disrepute – the failure of UKIP to abide by its own rules and constitution; a failure of UKIP to declare proper financial information; the failure of Nigel Farage to reply to genuine concerns including questions concerning allegations about money held on the Isle of Man, which may be true or may be false, and of course details of the way in which I was “ambushed” (the description of Piers Merchant – not me) during the internal UKIP election and UKIP’s failure to act on the recommendations of its own returning officer.

Most of you ought to be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves but of course once you start digging it takes integrity to stop and admit that you have been wrong.

Yours sincerely,

Robin Page

Dear Mr. Thomas,

I am writing to you in your capacity as Information Commissioner. I wish to make a formal complaint about the United Kingdom Independence Party – known by some as UKIP.

Enclosed are copies of requests I have made to UKIP under the Data Protection Act. Sadly UKIP failed to reply to my first request and also failed to comply with a second request to supply information about me held by UKIP. My cheque for ten pounds was returned and the suggestion was that a change of Chairman at UKIP has made my request invalid, which as you know is ridiculous.

Despite this refusal, documents have appeared on the internet clearly showing that UKIP holds much information concerning me, relevant to the Data Protection Act – some of it extremely damaging. In addition it is clear that there are agendas and minutes of meetings that have referred to me, which remain secret, and clearly I need to know what this information concerns and reveals. In addition I have been informed that members of UKIP’s National Executive Committee have also sent emails concerning me and clearly UKIP has a duty to reveal all this information under the terms of the Data Protection Act.

For your information because of my concern I am contacting the Electoral Commission about the behaviour of the higher echelons of UKIP. As a journalist, who writes for a number of national newspapers and magazines I shall also be writing about the extraordinary acts taking place within UKIP which in my view have more in common with the old Eastern European style of democracy – or even Zimbabwe’s style of government – than they do with what most people understand as Western democracy.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely,

Robin Page

To Members of the NEC

Here is a copy of my letter to the Chairman of the Electoral Commission.

Yours sincerely,

RP

Dear Mr. Younger,

I am writing to you with a number of serious complaints concerning the United Kingdom Independence Party. I write as a paid-up member of the party. I write as the person who finished third on its European List for the last European Elections in East Anglia. I am writing as the UKIP candidate for South Cambridgeshire at the last General Election. I am writing as somebody who has spoken at UKIP conferences and who has spoken, by invitation, at numerous UKIP events and branches. I am also writing to you as someone with no political ambition whatsoever apart from wanting to see honest politics and a properly functioning, credible political party whose aim is for Britain to regain its financial and political independence from the EU.

I am also writing to you as a journalist who contributes to various national newspapers and magazines, and also as someone who is committed to open and transparent democracy.

I am really writing to you by accident. Despite having a full programme of writing and farming, (I have written thirty books and have a small family farm). I was contacted by several people earlier in the year who urged me to stand for UKIP’s internal MEP selection process. This I did only to find myself suddenly disqualified from the process. Piers Merchant, UKIP’s own election referee concluded that I had been “ambushed” and his report shows a totally flawed process. Needless to say, it is a Report that has not been shown to me, but which has apparently been leaked onto the internet.

The National Executive Council of UKIP then ignored all his recommendations adding to the undemocratic nature of the process. In the elections UKIP’s hierarchy ignored its own rules and constitution to suit the placemen of the executive and the leader Nigel Farage. Incidentally – I was disqualified after following the procedures given to me by UKIP’s own paid officials – consequently “ambushed” is the only word that can adequately explain what happened.

From all over the country come examples of rules flouted. In my view it is an example of a political party stolen by its executive, from its grass roots. It has been astonishing to witness and it is a process that in my naivety I never thought could happen in Britain. To me the whole process has been more in tune with Eastern Europe before the fall of the Wall, or even Zimbabwe.

However there are other issues too. There appear to be holes in UKIP’s accounting. The leader of UKIP told me on one occasion how well UKIP’s call centres were doing and were raising money. There are several people who claim that there is no proper audit trail showing how much money was raised and where it went. In my view this needs to be investigated to establish whether or not UKIP’s finances are transparent.

It is said that the leader, Nigel Farage, has a Trust based on the Isle of Man. I do not know whether this is true or false. Mr. Farage will not reply to my questions concerning this.
It is alleged that Mr.Farage called an MEP of Asian origin a “wog”. It is said that this event was witnessed and filmed. I do not know if this allegation is true or false. If it is true then in my view Mr.Farage is not suitable to lead a political party in British politics.

To endeavour to obtain more information concerning the state of UKIP and the integrity of its officials and higher echelons I have made requests to UKIP under the Data Protection Act. UKIP has failed to comply with any aspect of these requests. I have now made a formal complaint to the Information Commissioner, but it does seem to me that the Electoral Commission too should take action against a political party that seems to believe that it is above the law.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely,

Robin Page

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

MAY I SUGGEST – since there is no political party of repute advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

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