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UKIP vs EUkip – FlexCit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/06/2014

UKIP vs EUkip – FlexCit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy

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UKIP vs EUkip – FlexCit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy.
Original Detail in context can be found at:
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UKIP vs EUkip – FleXcit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy.

I make no apology for the length of this post as it is aimed for those who are seriously interested in leaving the EU and realise the need for a workable and ethical eXit and Survival strategy.
I believe the time is now right, with the passing of the Euro Elections, to refocus this thread, by adding to the title, to thus change the emphasis from the exploits of Nigel’s EUkip to the challenge of getting UKIP and others to adopt a workable eXit and Survival Strategy.

My thanks to the moderators for facilitating this.

The reason for adding to the original title instead of a starting a new thread is to keep the post’s history, context and development as we refocus on the ‘HOW’ best we will actually be able to leave the EU without which I maintain we will never win the battle to leave the EU.

The important consideration now is to win any In/Out referendum ‘if’ and ‘when’ held and not forgetting the all important task of ensuring the outcome, assuming we win, is binding.

Currently I believe the only VIABLE ‘eXit and Survival Plan’ in the public domain is FleXcit as written by Dr Richard North, with contributions from many of those who read his blog EU Referendum blog. Even a recent review of the six finalists in the IEA’s BreXit competition acknowledged that they did NOT provide the definitive solution and another may well be needed.

What is abundantly clear is that without the ‘Outers’ mustering behind a WORKABLE plan the field will be left open to the Establishment and Europhiles to use Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) to maintain the status quo. The history of the 1975 referendum proves this point extensively and I highly recommend the well researched and authoritive book on the subject by two fellows of Nuffield College Oxford, David Butler and Uwe Kitzinger unsurprisingly called, ‘The 1975 Referendum’!

This thread was of course started on the 27th February 2011 with the intent of pointing out the differences between where UKIP should be heading and where I and others felt Nigel Farage was leading the party which, to differentiate, I called EUKip. As I asked within days of starting the thread ‘What is UKIP for’?

Despite the new title to this thread, it is still my contention, supported by many others who can see beyond his anti EU rhetoric, that Nigel’s EUkip is not fit for the purpose of helping navigate the UK safely out of the EU. In 21 years EUkip has NEVER put forward an ’eXit & Survival Strategy’ in support of their claim to be seeking an amicable divorce form the EU. Claiming you want something is the easy part but tackling the how and having the power to implement your plans is of course an entirely separate matters both of which Nigel’s EUkip doesn’t come close to – in terms of gravitas, competence or ability –  as proved over the last 21 years.

Since the beginning of this thread I have learned a great deal and been able to hone my arguments over the whole EU debate and after a few faltering early comments and remarks, which I have acknowledged, my aim has been to see UKIP reformed but not destroyed. I have tried endlessly to explain and persuade others that UKIP will never be reformed under Nigel Farage’s divisive cult style leadership and as the apparent Eurosceptic brand leader we need UKIP to appeal beyond its relatively small core vote, shown recently to be a mere 9% of the electorate, to over 50% of the electorate, a level of support obviously needed to win that referendum when called.

Another point I have brought up over and over again is that Nigel Farage has never invested the intellectual effort and time to produce an eXit and Survival plan preferring to concentrate his efforts to achieve electoral success at the Euro and General Elections. However as I have also frequently pointed out UKIP MEPs are about as much good as an ashtray on a motorbike and Nigel’s plans, to concentrate on elections, currently shows no signs of getting an MP to Westminster, especially after the Newark result where they could not have been better placed to win. They were still on the crest of the wave, after their success at the Euro elections, the candidate was the ex-Tory Roger Helmer who was well known in the area, Cameron’s Tories are unpopular with many core Conservatives and finally the out going MP Patrick Mercer was exposed for corruption.

Despite all these factors in UKIP’s favour the Tories won handsomely with 17,431 to UKIP’s 10,020. By any serious analysis this result bodes ill for any prospect UKIP has of gaining a single MP let alone a workable number at the 2015 General Election.

As I have often said Nigel and his cabal have all gone native in Brussels and his latest ‘freebie’ escapade in Malta before the Newark bye election provides all the evidence you need that he always puts his own self interests above those of HIS party.

So how can FleXcit help us leave the EU and what does it advocate?

The FleXcit paper, which I recommend is the sort of document you need to read several times to really start to understand it, is due to be published in the Autumn but you can still read the latest version as it is developed at :-
http://www.flexcit.org/

In summary the plan, which is a play on the words FleXible, eXit and Continuous Development, is just that a FleXible and Continuous Plan to help us Exit safely from the EU, after 40 years of integration, whilst upholding all our international treaty obligations which we are legally and morally obliged to honour, under the terms of the Vienna Treaty on International Treaties. This will allow us once again to gradually take our own seat at the global top table rather than, as we currently are, being represented by an unelected EU official. As we negotiate ourselves out of the EU we will be free to act directly, on the world stage, for our own interests, unfettered by membership of the EU. It is a given, as advocated by any serious commentator and even the recent IEA Brexit competition, that the start point for beginning the process of Britain’s withdrawal from the EU will result from us implementing Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.

The absolutely vital fact to grasp is that FleXcit advances a flexible continuous process that will crucially neutralise the Establishment’s use of FUD and their promotion of the false safety of remaining with the status quo, which can be seen, has not been successful especially in the EU! In the initial stages this is what has become known as the Norway Option, involving joining EFTA to retain our membership of the EEA, but it is only the start of the flexible and continuous process we will be on until we regain our complete independence from the EU. FlexCit will help fight classic FUD like the scare that ‘3 million jobs will be lost if we leave the EU’, which is simply NOT the case as we have no intention of leaving the Single Market (SM) made up of 28 countries until, further down the line, something better can be negotiated between the other 22 countries in Europe that are not members of the EU’s SM.

So FleXcit is a multi layer solution where the Norway Option is only an interim step along the way to establishing something much larger which will be achieved via the eight point plan explained in it.

Interestingly there is no strong economic case that can be made for leaving the EU and we will always struggle to argue for withdrawal on those grounds just as conversely there is equally no economic case for staying in the EU. However there are strong democratic and humanitarian reasons for leaving the EU related to the advantages of Self Determination and taking back control of our own destiny from undemocratic and unrepresentative Euro politicians and the unelected bureaucrats and of course, as already mentioned, the benefits of representing our own self interests on the world stage.

It is after leaving the EU that we would be free to concentrate on pushing forward with the introduction of The Harrogate Agenda’s (THA) six demands, which are based on the principles of Direct Democracy, as while leaving the undemocratic EU is a start we would still be faced by a corrupted and undemocratic Westminster. THA aims to give ‘Real Power to the People’.

Having left the EU an integral part of the FleXcit plan is the realisation that the democracy at Westminster must not only be greater and more responsible but more closely responsive to the peoples of Britain, to avoid them ever again being duped, as they were over the Common Market, by the MPs they have elected to serve them. Our political elite are increasingly a law unto themselves and only by the people being recognised as sovereign over our Parliament will things change. As a reminder THA’s six demands are:-

1. Recognition of our sovereignty:
The peoples of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland comprise the ultimate authority of their nations and are the source of all political power. That fact shall be recognised by the Crown and the Governments of our nations, and our Parliaments and Assemblies;
2. Real local democracy:
The foundation of our democracy shall be the counties (or other local units as may be defined), which shall become constitutional bodies exercising under the control of their peoples all powers of legislation, taxation and administration not specifically granted by the people to the national government;
3. Separation of powers:
The executive shall be separated from the legislature. To that effect, prime ministers shall be elected by popular vote; they shall appoint their own ministers, with the approval of parliament, to assist in the exercise of such powers as may be granted to them by the sovereign people of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland; no prime ministers or their ministers shall be members of parliament or any legislative assembly;
4. The people’s consent:
No law, treaty or government decision shall take effect without the consent of the majority of the people, by positive vote if so demanded, and that none shall continue to have effect when that consent is withdrawn by the majority of the people;
5. No taxation or spending without consent:
No tax, charge or levy shall be imposed, nor any public spending authorised, nor any sum borrowed by any national or local government except with the express approval the majority of the people, renewed annually on presentation of a budget which shall first have been approved by their respective legislatures;
6. A constitutional convention:
Parliament, once members of the executive are excluded, must host a constitutional convention to draw up a definitive codified constitution for the peoples of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. It shall recognise their sovereign status and their inherent, inalienable rights and which shall be subject to their approval.

For more on THA see:

http://HarrogateAgenda.org.uk

I still believe it will be important, in this thread, to continue to link to what others are saying about UKIP, as I originally set out to do, and generally comment on such links while adding my own thoughts as necessary and applicable. This of course helps to expose the incompetence at the heart of Nigel’s EUkip and of some of his supporters as demonstrated on this forum.

So by adding to my original aim, of highlighting EUkip’s need to reform, I will now use this thread to seek to explain the importance to UKIP of the FleXcit plan as currently the only workable and honourable ‘eXit and Survival plan’ from the EU which helps neutralise the Establishments use of FUD and will thus help us to win the referendum.

That UKIP members and branches still potentially have some clout, with their county coverage, is not in doubt but they will need to start to think for themselves and therefore must look beyond Nigel Farage and his cabal’s poor leadership and to push and promote the FlexCit plan. Nigel’s current focus on anti EU rhetoric and attempts to win seats next year will NOT on its own help us to win the all important referendum. I don’t hold out much hope that Nigel is capable of changing his ways and the behaviour and quality of output of his 24 MEPs will, in a relatively short time, give us all the evidence we need to see if they are really serious about wanting to leave the EU.

I hope you will join constructively in this new phase of this thread, working to assist in supporting and improving the FleXcit plan, in the spirit of continuous development, between now and the referendum ‘if’ and ‘when’ held. Also I hope you will do all you can to spread the word that the FleXcit plan helps counter the Establishments use of FUD to maintain the status quo by answering the all important question as to ‘HOW’ we can safely leave the EU. This is a plan that does NOT get in the way of party allegiances and so should provide no barrier to any real ’Outer’ supporting it.

Don’t forget that no political party is permitted to lead on either the Yes or the No side in any referendum so those who are really serious about seeking a safe and honourable exit from the EU should be able to gather around this plan.

So FleXcit it has to be if UKIP or anyone else for that matter really wants to win the battle to successfully leave the EU.

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Jasna Badzak – ‘Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage’

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/06/2014

Jasna Badzak – ‘Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage’
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Jasna Badzak – ‘Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage’ – May well cause the more gullible UKIP supporters some consternation as they realise UKIP is actually the ‘Farage’ cult & not a party!

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Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage Read:

Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage


Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage
Friendship in life and especially political life is a very strange concept. I know it is not alien to me because I, unlike you, still do have many friends, genuine friends across all parties political world.
I was even a friend to you once. On my part, a truly genuine one. I take friendships very seriously, and once I let anyone in my world I am loyal, dedicated and extremely protective of my friends.
From your side I know now it was never the case. However, you always did one thing for me – provide me with hours of laughter.
Two days ago you heard me laughing my head off. Only you have the tenacity to call me after everything that was said and done to me and offer your ‘friendship’, and money for silence, as well as thinly veiled threat not to further hurt me and even to offer UKIP me ‘media expertise’, whatever that might be.
Only you can do it three times. I was shocked that I have overestimated your intelligence thinking even Nigel is not that stupid. Maybe you did not understand it the first time when I told you that I want nothing from you, apart from my health back, which you cannot give me. That is called sarcasm and you can ask Annabelle to look it up in the dictionary for you, safe in the knowledge you really do not read the books (let alone write them). You will, even with your amount of copious drinking, remember us talking about UKIP Immigration policy on the balcony of 32 Smiths’ Square on sunny 24 February 2011 where your ‘Immigration and Islam Spokesman’ simply plagiarised parts of Mein Kampf. Your only response was ‘I never read Hitler’s book’.
Second time I was very clear – no amount of money in the world can buy my silence. Another concept you do not understand because with you everything is about lining your own pockets.
So you tried again. Third time. Why? To close the police investigation into UKIP and you personally? To stop me talking to Electoral Commission? To stop exposing your fraud? To save your precious skin? Or all three?
It was not enough that you have remained silent while Batten was inventing a criminal case that never existed to silence me about very existence of his and UKIP’s ‘Charter of Muslim Understanding’, his and UKIP’s Dismantling Multiculturalism to remove Jews and Muslims from UK, your refusal to testify against Batten for his fraud simply because he knew about your fraud too, your part in conspiracy to pervert the Course of Justice and convict me for the crime which only does not exist but I could have never committed, and just to silence and discredit me for simply telling the truth.
Well my former friend I am not for sale and there is nothing you can do to silence me, stop me, buy me and especially threaten me.

I wonder what response this will get from Farage – will he be man enough to admit he is setting out to pervert the course of justice and bribe a witness, or so it would seem.

Let us not forget Farage is under investigation both ‘yet again’ & ‘not before time’!

Interestingly George Stride, Geoffrey Collier & Nikki Sinclaire (& others) were all members of ‘Farage’s’ UKIP South West Regional committee who were well aware that Julia Longhurst supplied Farage with his  Constituency Office and UKIP Regional Regional Office for, in Farage’s own words: ‘For a peppercorn rental’, as I recal all three and others were at the meeting when Farage and the Longhursts reached agreement some 15 years ago.

It would seem that amongst other sums of money Nigel Farage has obtained is a sum of £205,000 which were ‘allowances’ for his constituency office when it was in fact funded by the generosity of the Longhursts and was in fact also UKIP’s regional office where amongst others Steve Harris worked as UKIP Regional Organiser for many years!

this sum would seem never to have been declared as a political donation, despite the fact that it had been repeatedly pointed out to Fasrage!

This sum should not be confused with the some £211,000 which in one year alone was declared in Farage’s accounts for his office as ‘sundry expenses’ – sundry expenses that exceeded 50% of the cash expenditure/turnover of the office for the year! Whether Farage was able to pass off this amount annually I do not know but let us not forget that, looking through the list of donations listed by The Electoral Commission, Nigel Farage would seem never to have made a significant donation to UKIP – yet he was able on one occasion alone to deposit £250,000 to his trust account in The Isle of Man!

It has been reported by the media that if found guilty under investigation Fararage could face a prison sentence and let us face it this is a considerably larger sum than the £36,000 or so which earned Tom Wise3 a two year prison sentence!

Little wonder it would seem that Nigel Farage will take any risk to avoid the consequences of his reported actions as reported by the media.

I personally do not accept the desperate efforts of some to claim Farage is being smeared by the media because he is some sort of threat to the ‘establishment’ – my personal experiences over many years and the 100s of people who have contacted me or provided information show Nigel Farage to be UKIP and UKIP to be Nigel Farage, so what passes for leadership is and always has been the promotion of the Farage cult where Farage acts as a sociopath in the delusion that whatever he does or says is true and correct and that anyone with differing opinions must be forced out of HIS party.
Sadly I believe there is every reason to believe that UKIP is corrupt from the top down and like fish it rots from the head down!

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Has UKip Morphed Into A Toxic Nationalist & Racist Rabble?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/06/2014

Has UKip Morphed Into A Toxic Nationalist & Racist Rabble?
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Has UKip Morphed Into A rather  Toxic Nationalist & Racist Rabble, as a result of the collapse of the BNP & its fight for seats on the EU gravy train – A rabble that would sell British values down the river in return for a place at the EU troughs?

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Hi,
sadly Dan Hodge’s article below, though classic ‘Click Bait’ and from aits own desperate desire to see the evils of New Labour in control, has more than a shred of truth to it.
I believe those supporting New UKip, which now he brands as ‘Tea Kip’. but for which I coined the name EUkip some years ago – should stand in front of their mirrors and look themselves in the eye and ask if the destruction of Britain is what they really stand for in their desperate scrabble for a place on the gravy train
GRAVY TRAIN 01There is little chance of UKip getting MPs elected next year and even less chance of their having any significant place at Westminster – despite their clamouring for EUKip peers regardless of their abject failure in domestic elections with Zero MPs and very few Councillors elected in their 21 years!
There is however the bitter cry of ‘destroy the Tories’ and ‘we won’t negotiate while Cameron is Tory leader’ in fact anything to destabilise Westminster to gain a toe hold – Far from winning them seats such views lose them votes which ensures that they will fail to gain seats but WILL destabilise the election sufficiently to ensure THE ONLY PARTY able, albe it grudgingly as a result of Nikki Sinclaire’s petition and resultant House of Commons debate, grant these United Kingdoms an In/Out referndum on membership of the odious EU.
Not only is EUkip seemingly willing to risk a continuance of the muddled politics of a Tory Lib.Dim. coalition with a weakened Tory party that can no longer deliver a referendum but in coalition with the treacherous and inept Lib.Dims. alternately the unholy alliance for the sake of power of Labour and Lib.Dem. – worse still they may even be responsible for the destruction of Britain, in their greed, by permitting another period of corrupt and incompetent rule by Labour, as if people are too stupid to realise the damage done by the evil and criminal treachery of Blair & Brown’s self serving and economically illiterate persuit of power and wealth.
Indeed Dan Hodges has some sound points, though to be sure he has a very dubious and distateful motivation in his support for Labour!

How the Tea Kippers hijacked Ukip and turned it into a toxic brand

What does Nigel do next? I suspect it’s a question the leader of the People’s Army has been asking himself a fair bit in the days following Ukip’s surrender to the forces of the establishment at Newark.

Of course he may not have been asking himself any questions. Nigel Farage may have bought into the line that Newark was a triumph. Another of those Ukip by-election defeats that presages victory tomorrow.

In which case it really is all over. We can shut the book on Ukip, and its leader.

But for the sake of argument let’s assume Farage woke up on Saturday morning and said to himself: “Hang on, that wasn’t supposed to have happened. I’m meant to leading a popular revolution here and the government of the day just gave me a good hiding in a parliamentary by-election. Something’s not right.” What then?

The first thing Nigel Farage needs to recognise is the party he’s leading isn’t the party he thinks he’s leading. Two years ago Ukip were easily defined. They were, to borrow a phrase from Nick Clegg, “the party of Out”. Labour and the Lib Dems were Europhiles. The Tory party were Euroagnostic. Ukip, in contrast, were the only genuine Eurosceptics.

Yes, they came across as a bit eccentric. A little obsessed, as single-issue parties tend to do. But they were essentially harmless. They had a charismatic leader. And they were tapping into a suspicion about the grand European project that was shared by a significant section of the electorate on both the Left and Right of the political spectrum.

Slowly but surely, however, Ukip has been the subject of a political takeover. The Kippers have given way to Britain’s equivalent of the Tea Party, the Tea Kippers.

The Tea Kippers don’t view Ukip as a single-issue party. Or a political party at all. They see Ukip first as a movement. Then an uprising. And finally a vehicle for unleashing a political civil war on a Britain they despise and no longer understand.

Like the entryism of Trotskyists into Labour in the late 1970s and early 1980s, the rise of the Tea Kippers was the product of many factors. The compromises forced on the Tory and Liberal Democrat parties by coalition. The failure of Labour to establish itself as an effective opposition. The collapse of the BNP. The lingering sense of disillusionment with the political class in the wake of the expense scandal and the 2008 crash.

And like most successful entryists, the Tea Kippers had no recognised leaders as such. But their ideology was neatly expressed by James Delingpole in last week’s Spectator. “What Ukip needs is a moment equivalent to the one in the mid-1970s when, shortly after becoming Tory party leader, Margaret Thatcher slapped down Hayek’s Constitution of Liberty on the table and declared ‘This is what we believe.’ What Ukip needs is an ‘-ism’.”

Well until recently Ukip had an “-ism”. It was called “Euroscepticism”. But in a desperate attempt to “broaden its appeal” and “tap into the public mood” it’s managed to get itself a new “-ism”. Racism.

Several weeks ago I wrote about how Nigel Farage’s attempt to seize the issue of immigration, and exploit it had backfired. The European elections were his opportunity to plant his party firmly in the political mainstream, I said. Instead, he was toxifying the Ukip brand.

And so it proved. In Newark we saw the first ever mobilisation of the anti-Ukip vote. One Tory MP told me, “What I heard on the doorstep was “I voted Ukip in the Euro elections, but I’m not going to help them elect their first MP”. There is a stigma attached to Ukip that wasn’t there at that start of the year.

The Tea Kippers don’t really care. It merely helps them convince themselves of their radical purity. But Nigel Farage should care.

If Ukip’s leader wants to reclaim his party he needs to do three things. The first is that he has to publically and unequivocally acknowledge that his European election campaign was wrong. Not that he was tired, or he had the odd off day. He needs to admit it was a strategic – never mind moral – mistake to push on immigration so aggressively that it tipped over into naked prejudice.

The second thing he needs to do is stop buying into the hype. Ukip are not a revolutionary movement set to shatter the mold of British politics. They have several MEPs, a handful of councilors and no MPs. They are likely to have no MPs after the next election. Farage has to start to manage expectations, in particular amongst the army of Cyber Tea Kippers who in the excitement of the last month have lost their final tenuous grip on reason.

The third thing he has to do is return Ukip to its roots. Ukip is a success when it sticks to what it knows best. And what it knows best is how to construct a case against Brussels.

It was noticeable in the debates with Nick Clegg that Farage was at his most comfortable and most persuasive when forensically dissecting the failures of the EU. It was when he started ranging into immigration, gay marriage, women’s representation in the workplace etc, that he lost his way.

And that’s because it’s not his way. It’s the Tea Kippers’ way.

Nigel Farage will not take the Westminster ramparts. Newark proved that, as did Ukip’s poorer than expected showing in the local and European elections.

But in three years’ time there will be a referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU. David Cameron will campaign for Britain to stay in. Nick Clegg will campaign for Britain to stay in. Chuka Umunna, or whoever is Labour leader at the time, will campaign for Britain to stay in.

And the “Out” campaign will be looking for a figurehead. Someone who can articulate the anti-European case in a way that resonates with a public increasingly inclined to stick with the Junker they know.

That referendum represents Nigel Farage’s opportunity. But only if he is leader of Ukip, not leader of the Tea Kippers.

Whoever leads the campaign for Britain to leave the EU has to be able to unite the disparate Eurosceptic tribes. Two years ago Nigel Farage could have brought together both Left and Right in common cause. If the referendum was held tomorrow, they wouldn’t touch him with a bargepole. And the anti-Farage vote alone would hand the Europhiles victory on a plate.

That’s the question Nigel Farage has to address. Is Ukip his party? Or is it the Tea Kippers’ party? He hasn’t got long to come up with an answer.

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Understanding Incitement To Racial Hatred In UKip

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Understanding the behaviour likely to cause Incitement To Racial Hatred In UKip as presented due to the ignorance & bronze age superstitions of Gerard Batten & the evils of Zionism & racial hatred of Malcolm Lord Pearson.

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superstitions & the ignorance of the bronze age has no place in the governance of man as shown and proven by the evil racism of Gerard Batten
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I understand that there is now an inquiry into the corruption, dishonesty and collusion to pervert the course of justice which now, due to the intervention of the head of the Metropolitan Police, is being carried out by the Professional Standards Department as it is alleged Gerard Batten has acted in abuse of his position to corrupt together with named police officers.
Gerard Batten’s apparent racism likely to incite racial hatred must surely be a part of this case – as was Lord Pearson’s in a double page spread in the media some time ago!

Sam Solomon, Christian Concern and Gerard Batten by Steven Rose

A few months ago, the “proposed charter of Muslim understanding” resurfaced. UKIP MEP, Gerard Batten, had commissioned it in 2006.

Batten recently told the Guardian that he could not see why “any reasonable, normal person” would object to signing it. The document proposes that British Muslims sign a declaration against violence. In a speech delivered to the House of Lords in 2007, Batten stated:

“The Proposed Charter has now been very slightly revised with one major change, to which I draw your attention, of the insertion of an Affirmation on page 29 that asks individuals, groups and organisations that represent Muslims to affirm their belief in certain basic values, these are: The equality of all before God and the law; equal rights for women; the rejection of intimidation and violence in the name of religion; religious freedom – specifically the right of Muslims to convert to other religions if they wish; and the tolerance of other religions and non discrimination against non-Muslims.”

Ukip maintain that asking Muslims to sign this ‘code of conduct’ had never been one of its policies. Yet, in 2007, the party website published a press release to promote Batten’s House of Lords event.

Another noteworthy quote from Batten’s speech:

“In 2006 I commissioned Sam Solomon to write an analysis of those Islamic texts that can be used by extremist Muslims to justify terrorism. That analysis developed into the Proposed Charter of Muslim Understanding, which was initially launched in Strasbourg in December 2006. It got little coverage in the UK but did get extensive coverage elsewhere, particularly in the USA.”

The story did find an audience in the United States. In 2006, articles appeared on Jihad Watch and WND. Conservative-leaning media also covered the story, as did several smaller newspapers.

Some years later, Republican politician Rick Womick made explicit reference to it:

“Show us that Islam is not at war with America by requiring that a Proposed Charter of Muslim Understanding be signed by those who profess a peaceful Muslim faith before entering the U.S. military”

Yet, few focus upon the charter’s author, Sam Solomon. Various sources state that he is a former Islamic jurist who fled to the UK after converting to Christianity.

In the past decade, Solomon established links with Christian Concern. The organisation opposes same-sex marriage and abortion.

In 2004, Sam Solomon worked with Andrea Williams, co-founder of Christian Concern, against the Religious Hatred Bill. At a 2008 conference, Andrea Williams confirmed that Solomon influenced her understanding of Islam. One year later, Christian Concern linked readers to a free PDF of the Muslim Charter. (Christian Concern founder, Andrea Williams, according to the Independent newspaper, angered gay rights campaigners after giving a speech in Jamaica and reportedy suggesting that the Olympic athlete – Tom Daley – is in a relationship with a man because his father died.)

Around that time, Solomon and Ukip’s Lord Pearson attended the International Legal Conference on Freedom of Speech and Religion. Other guests included Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. Interestingly, both Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer have been banned from entering the United Kingdom by the Home Secretary of Her Majesty’s Government.

In May of 2011, Solomon spoke at the Geert Wilders “A Warning to America” event at Cornerstone Church in Nashville. The Tennessee Freedom Coalition (who supported EDL-founder Tommy Robinson) sponsored the event. But it did not deter Solomon or Williams from attending one of their events several months later.

Towards the end of that year, the same Nashville church hosted an event about the ‘threat’ of Sharia. One notable guest was Paul Diamond, of Christian Concern, who stated that his organisation might work with the Tennessee Freedom Coalition.

Paul Diamond also has links to Gerard Batten, as he defended Batten’s wife over an alleged unpaid television licence fee in 2010. A year later, Batten sent Christian Concern a document that suggested a ban on religious slaughter.

Christian Concern maintains a working relationship with Sam Solomon. But any connection to the Tennessee Freedom Coalition remains tenuous.

Of the seven books listed in Christian Concern’s online store, six are about Islam. Sam Solomon authored five (including the Muslim Charter). (A You Tube transcript of Andrea Williams on Halal labeling and foods is listed below and can be found through this link:

Because actually it’s a sign of a society subjugating herself to Islam, to the rules of Islam, and it’s been done very subtly. It’s extraordinary isn’t it, that we, in the United Kingdom, now in a chain of pizza restaurants are unable to have meat that’s non Halal. That’s an incredible situation to find ourselves in. In our banks, we’ve got Sharia compliant financing – a dual system, we’ve got the law society saying that wills should be made compliant to Sharia rules. We’ve got the reality that Sharia courts are operating, and what I say to that is this: there’s a dual system of law; Sharia law and English law, and although English law may not yet absolutely recognize Sharia law, or says that it doesn’t recognize law, once operational it’s going to be very hard to challenge it. We need to boycott those food outlets, so we need to write to Pizza Express, we need to write to the executive body there and say we will not frequent your restaurants. We need to write to our supermarkets and we need to say we won’t buy your meat. Or we need to say you need to clearly label your meat, we need to be given choice. We actually need to find our voice, otherwise we are just handing ourselves over to what the Muslims will see in a sense as being subjugated. It’s political subjugation. That’s what we’re currently – it’s very subtle – we’ve got Halal meat only in hospitals, we’ve got Halal meat only in schools – in certain hospitals and certain schools – Halal meat in certain areas of London, Halal meat in certain areas of the United Kingdom, and we – the people of Great Britain – think that that’s not real, but it is real. And we need to wake up and understand that that’s what we’re being served, and understand that it is a form of ideological take over.

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IN MEMORIAM of ‘D’ Day

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/06/2014

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IN MEMORIAM of ‘D’ Day

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5th. June – 70 Years Ago

Hi,

late in the afternoon 70 years ago my Mother got permision to slip away early from her secret radio ops. base near London – on condition she remained in Uniform – she had no idea why she had to wear uniform but what the hell it got her off ops. early!

She was WRAF and now firmly grounded as her newly married husband said that 2 in the air was too many!

Father had arranged to fly into Biggin Hill for a brief overnight stay and they were meeting for an early supper with some friends in a hotel near Croydon airport.

They had dinner and everyone drifted away early. Later that night my Father slid quietly from their bedroom setting an alarm for my Mother – She was on orders and Father had just broken orders!!

Mother heard the alarm and rapidly got up – not quite sure why she had to – dressed, rather blearily in the dark and was on the front steps of the hotel just as dawn was breaking. Those were her instructions!!

Just as dawn broke she heard the familiar roar of Merlin Engines as a wing of Spitfires flew at roof top over the hotel waggling their wings – she spent the next 10 minutes helping a cleaning lady clear up the mess she made falling over a bucket of soapy water as she dived for cover!

Then the sprint back to her station where at every opportunity for the rest of the day she tuned in to listen to my Father’s squadron as it provided the air cover on the beaches of the Normandy Landings.

1,000s died to give you and I our liberty!

The Normandy Beaches
6th. June 1944
Where They Gave Their Lives For You

Only to be betrayed by political filth just a few decades later.

Few things in my life have revolted me more than the glib willingness of the scum of the earth to squabble and back stab to get their snouts in the troughs on The EU Gravy Train.

Even less edifying have been the filth that has crawled out of the gutters to lie and cheat, plot and scheme against decent honest people, who have no interest in personal reward, yet seek to liberate these United Kingdoms from under the heel of those to whom our politicians have betrayed us.

Richard North made a very simple but very understanding comment on his Blog:

In a demonstration of raw courage, ingenuity, determination and sheer power, on 6 June 1944 the combined Allied Armies launched the greatest invasion fleet in the history of man onto the shores of Normandy – a feat never since equalled and never likely to be repeated.

Many arrived – many fewer left. We owe them a great deal.

But Richard has a better understanding of the betrayal of Britain by Politicians and a clear understanding of young men in battle, let down by the politicians who betrayed them and the senior officers jockeying for position, do read his New book – Details CLICK HERE

“In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.”
Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821),

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The Inept Self Proclaimed PR Agent Annabelle Fuller Causes Further UKIP Damage

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/06/2014

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The Inept Self Proclaimed PR Agent Annabelle Fuller, with her track record of dishonesty, corruption and implausible fantasies Causes Further Damage for Nigel Farage’s party UKIP – This time as the celebrate their EU election results.

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it does seem very clear that Kirsten Farage not only does not believe the denials of her husband nor those of Annabelle Fuller, widely believed to be his sometime mistress as several have attested, but nor does she believe her own claims in an interview with the Telegraph!

One is inclined to wonder what part of the £30K salary she was receiving from the public purse played in her change of position, for her effective non job – I say non job in that to get elected Nigel Farage PROMISED on Meridian TV that neither he nor any UKIP official would employ family members and when he reneged on his promise he did not tell his own NEC, fellow MEPs, members or even his supposedly trusted Constituency office staff!

It seems it might be more than coincidence that now that Kirsten is no longer eligible as staff and has lost her £30K pa she may now feel able to speak out! Was it a salary or just hush money the tax payer forked out for?

Nigel Farage’s wife and alleged lover Annabelle Fuller in bust-up

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Nigel Farage and Annabelle Fuller

UKIP leader Nigel Farage’s wife was involved in an astonishing public bust-up with the woman accused of being his secret mistress.

In extraordinary scenes at a UKIP election party, furious Kirsten Farage is said to have screamed at Annabelle Fuller: “I will have security drag you out by your hair if you don’t leave”.

The row erupted this week at a hotel where UKIP politicians and officials had gathered to celebrate the party’s success in the Euro elections.

Miss Fuller – a former UKIP spin doctor – was left in tears. Farage was later seen apologising to her at a nearby pub.

A party insider said: “Nigel was really embarrassed by the incident. For once in his life he was totally speechless.”

A source who was at the party said: ” Kirsten was absolutely furious that Annabelle had been invited to such a big night for Nigel and the party. There is clearly no love lost between these two women. It took the edge off what had been a great few days for him and the party.

“For the rest of the night it was all anyone was talking about.”

The drama happened on Monday night at the InterContinental Westminster in Central London.

humiliated A pal said: “Annabelle want to congratulate people she had worked with over the years and was chatting away when two security guards came over and asked her to leave.

“They pointed across at Kirsten who was stood in the same room. Annabelle politely told the security that Mr Farage had invited her. All of a sudden Kirsten came across saying that she would be dragged out by her hair by security if she didn’t leave immediately.”

A source added: “Annabelle did not want to cause a scene so left the party after Kirsten stormed up to her. But she was utterly humiliated by what happened.

“She was in floods of tears and had to be consoled by friends.”

Farage did not see the bust-up because he was in another part of the venue giving interviews.

Ms Fuller, 32 – who has said the rumours about her affair were engineered by people “determined to bring the UKIP leader down” – left the hotel and went to the nearby Old Star Pub. Farage later arrived to apologise for the incident.

Last month Ms Fuller broke her silence about the rumours saying: “The claims about Nigel and I are utter nonsense.

“I was used as a weapon to attack Nigel by people with a vendetta against him. It is his children and his wife Kirsten I feel most sorry for.”

Ms Fuller was last night unavailable for comment. UKIP did not respond to calls and emails

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I guess another well known political mistress’s words spring to mind, when the prostitute Mandy Rice Davis iconically said:
“Well he would say that wouldn’t he”.
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Nigel Farage has a documented track record of sexual incontinence (some may remember CLICK HERE), just as Annabelle Fuller has a track rwecord of dishonesty and corruption.
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This is not the first time Kirsten Farage has had a witnessed row with her husband’s alleged mistress and many will recall the shouting match when she understandably accused Fuller of being a ‘whore’ when she arrived, unannounced at Farage’s hotel room late at night, unaware Kirsten had arrived at the conference!
Mandy Rice Davis’ words come to mind once again when considering her spirited, if somewhat implausible, denial of her husband’s extra marital affairs in her recent interview by The Telegraph.
See also CLICK HERE.

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>GP: Ukip & Their Advocacy Of NHS Privatisation Areas

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/06/2014

>GP: Ukip & Their Advocacy Of NHS Privatisation Areas
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>Guest Post: Ukip & Their Advocacy Of NHS Privatisation of various Areas and aspects even discussion of private health insurance as a management style.

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when a subject has been widely covered by others I incline, due largely to indollence, in part due to lack of time I increasingly use the facility of Guest Posting articles to keep readers informed.
When Guest Posting I always try to provide a link to the original article on its original site on the internet, for those who may wish to dig deeper into the views of the original author/poster.
I also tend to add brief comment – when thwe comment becomes more than brief it clearly ceases to be just a Guest Post!
In the instance of the post below: suffice to say that with my fairly extensive personal experience and research regarding the NHS CLICK HERE I must say that there are styles of private insurance that I believe might well be a benefit to all were they to become compulsory for treatment in that area.
eg. I do NOT believe that the NHS has any duty to perform general life style adjustments, be that breast enhancement, tattoo removal and other forms of cosmetic surgery. Nor do I believe that the NHS has any duty to prolongue life by rigerous intervention beyond a certain (to be discussed and defined) period as with life support systems beyond a certain period when serious brain damage is the probable outcome.
There are of course many exceptions and areas that require debate on a far wider scale before decisions are made as with invitro fertilisation (IVF) when orphanages are over crowded with adoptable children and our population is already too high for the resources available etc. etc.
Let us not forget that it was the foolish actions of Aneurin Bevan who sabotaged the Beveridge Plan (a Liberal Peer) that was the foundation document of the NHS which was brought into being by cross party agreement prior to the election of the Labour Government after the war! Bevan sadly altered the agreed terms and politicised the organisation making it more of a life style programme than had been envisaged when the Tories and the Liberals had agreed to form the NHS.
But more of this elsewhere, in the mean time consider the views and facts provided by the author of the Guest Post below:

Paul Nuttall’s disappearing NHS comments

 

In the build up to the 2014 European elections I wrote a short article analysing the UKIP position on the NHS because I thought it would be a good idea to seek some clarity on the issue given that UKIP were going into the election with an absolute joke of a 12 page manifesto which made no statement at all on their health policy. I dug out some particularly interesting comments from the UKIP deputy leader Paul Nuttall on his website, which I quoted. I also provided links to the pages on his website so that people could check these statements out for themselves. Here are the quotes from UKIP deputy leader Paul Nuttall that I selected.“I would like to congratulate the coalition government for bringing a whiff of privatisation into the beleaguered National Health Service”

“I would argue that the very existence of the NHS stifles competition”

“the NHS … is not fit for purpose in the 21st Century”

Within a few days of my article going up, the posts where these comments were made disappeared from the Internet. This is not the first time that I’ve directed the public to take a look at something a politician has said on their website, only for the page in question to do a disappearing act. A previous example occurred when I pointed out how Lib-Dem energy minister Simon Davey had made a very rapid conversion from anti-nuclear to pro-nuclear once he got a job as energy minister in the Coalition government. The page on his website where he said “a new generation of nuclear power stations will cost taxpayers and customers tens of billions of poundsdisappeared within hours of me pointing it out to the public. It is wrong to assume bad faith in these kinds of scenario – after all, a politician who deleted pages on their websites in order to hide what they’ve been saying from the public, would be  doing nothing but demonstrating the fact that they don’t actually understand how the Internet works. Not only would they be assuming that bloggers like me are so naive that we wouldn’t screen grab what they’ve said (in case they decide to delete the page) which is something that any good blogger should do as a matter of course, they’d also be betraying the fact that they don’t know anything about Internet archiving services like The Wayback Machine. Here are the two blog posts that some people might suspect that Paul Nuttall and UKIP don’t want you to see, as recorded by the Internet Archive:

The content of the first of these links is particularly bad. Not only does the deputy leader of UKIP openly congratulate the coalition government for their highly controversial backdoor privatisation of the NHS (which was overwhelmingly opposed by the public and medical professionals alike), he also used pejorative language to smear the NHS and made up an absolutely corking lie about NHS staff ratios too. Aside from openly congratulating the Coalition government (the one that UKIP like to posture as an alternative to) for doing something that the vast majority of the public would object to if the mainstream media hadn’t deliberately obscured the reality from them, Paul Nuttall then joins in with the ongoing right-wing smear campaign against the NHS by deriding it as “inefficient” and “second rate“. As recently as 2011 – before the Tory NHS cuts really kicked in – the NHS was rated as one of the most efficient health services in the world, saving more lives per pound of investment over the last 25 years than any health service apart from Ireland’s. The fact that the private sector dominated US medical system came out as the most expensive and one of the most hopelessly inefficient systems blasts an irreparable hole in Paul Nuttall’s unmistakably pro-privatisation agenda.Probably the worst bit in Paul Nuttall’s disappearing NHS statement is where he resorted to outright lies to criticise the NHS by saying “for every nurse there is a manager“. This claim of a 1:1 nurse to manager ratio in the NHS is simply not true. The latest key statistics from the NHS show that there were 371,777 qualified nurses and 36,360 managers. That means that the real nurse to manager ratio for the NHS is significantly higher than 10:1. In my view it is totally unacceptable for senior politicians to go around spreading outright lies like this.  Some people might point to the fact that Paul Nuttall’s outrageous views on the NHS have disappeared like this as an indicator that he can’t be trusted. However I think it’s probably better off to not assume bad faith on Paul Nuttall’s part. If we imagine that he is experiencing genuine “technical difficulties” with his website (rather than deliberately trying to hide something he’d rather the public didn’t know about, as some might suspect) then the best course of action should be clear: We should try to help Paul Nuttall out, by making sure the public aren’t denied the opportunity to know his views due to the “technical difficulties” he must be experiencing with his website. I’ve made this infographic detailing Paul Nuttall’s disappearing NHS views. Please feel free to help him out by sharing it around.

 

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