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>GP-RN: A Caveat Of Great Significance For EUroSceptics

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/01/2015

>GP-RN: A Caveat Of Great Significance For EUroSceptics
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A Caveat Of Great Significance For EUroSceptics, in the light of Angela Merkel‘s collusion with David Cameron – but be conscious of Angela Merkel’s domestic difficulties CLICK HERE

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unlike Richard I am not entirely sure I would start an article regarding Angela Merkel and the EU with the phrase ‘Cutting through the fluff…’
I tend not to see either in that category so perhaps ‘To cut to the chase …’ might prove more apposite to the cautionary and VERY important caveat he provides in this article:

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Richard North, 07/01/2015  


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Cutting through the fluff, we note the report on today’s visit by Angela Merkel, which tells us that the German Chancellor is understood to have indicated to the Prime Minister that she is prepared to back his proposals for strict limits on migrant access to benefits and public services.

British officials, we are further informed, hope the German leader will signal support for new rules to persuade British voters to vote “in” in a referendum on EU membership planned if Mr Cameron remains in Number Ten after May’s general election.

And there lies the germ of a treaty. There is a distinct possibility here that we are seeing the foundations laid for an Article 48 “simplified revision procedure” treaty, albeit the language coded and obscure.

If we are anywhere near to identifying the path chosen by Mr Cameron – and there does not seem to be any other credible alternative – then these are dangerous days for Eurosceptics.

One recalls how easily the media was gulled into believing in Mr Cameron’s treaty “veto”, so much so that even to this day the Prime Minister parades this non-existent victory. It is thus entirely possible that the media will accept claims for a new treaty, and fall in behind calls for remain in the EU, on the basis of successful “reform”.

What is particularly exasperating here is that the likes of the Financial Times, with its pretensions of “high quality global journalism” is misreading the meeting, telling us that Merkel “is expected to remind Mr Cameron that Germany will not back any British demands for a major rewrite of existing EU treaties”.

The paper goes on to acknowledge that Mr Cameron has in recent days said his proposed reforms would require treaty change, but then informs is that Merkel “opposes any British deal that would lead to an unstitching of EU treaties or require ratification by referendums in any member state”.

But, if the FT stopped one moment to think about what it had written, that does not in any way rule out a “simplified revision procedure” treaty, covering specific measures on benefits and public services, relating to migrants. Thus, despite a headline that says Merkel is to “rule out treaty change”, there is everything to play for.

That much is evident also from the exposition in Deutsche Welle, which raises the possibility – if tangentially – of amending Article 45 of the TFEU, noting that Cameron would “require alterations to EU treaties” while being confident that he would be able to “get that done”.

We are also getting similar mood music from The Times. Under the headline, “Merkel backs migrant benefit cuts”, we are told: “Hopes are rising in Downing Street, however, that Mrs Merkel will go further than ever in backing changes to EU treaties beyond those needed to reform the eurozone”.

Mr Cameron, Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband have backed the idea of scrapping rules that allow EU migrants to claim benefits for their children who still live in their home country. The payouts cost Britain about £30 million each year. Rules on the payment of child benefit abroad are enshrined in EU treaties, meaning that all member states would have to agree to alter them. Germany is considered to hold particular sway.

Nevertheless, one expects the media to play up the personality politics, to the exclusion of any more detailed analysis. They will need little encouragement to stoke up high-level theatricals, invoking a dispute between Merkel and Cameron, and such would serve all the better to pave the way for another of Mr Cameron’s victories.

It would be unforgivable, though, if the eurosceptic community allowed this “play” to be completed without challenge, or without attempts being made to explain how attempts are being made to manipulate public opinion.

Without pre-emptive action, I see us being outflanked, facing the prospect of a referendum on the basis of “successful” renegotiations, which would have us fighting a losing battle. Mr Cameron bringing a treaty back from Brussels would be a formidable opponent, and the sooner we start discounting his ploy, the better.

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UKIP vs EUkip – FlexCit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/06/2014

UKIP vs EUkip – FlexCit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy

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UKIP vs EUkip – FlexCit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy.
Original Detail in context can be found at:
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UKIP vs EUkip – FleXcit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy.

I make no apology for the length of this post as it is aimed for those who are seriously interested in leaving the EU and realise the need for a workable and ethical eXit and Survival strategy.
I believe the time is now right, with the passing of the Euro Elections, to refocus this thread, by adding to the title, to thus change the emphasis from the exploits of Nigel’s EUkip to the challenge of getting UKIP and others to adopt a workable eXit and Survival Strategy.

My thanks to the moderators for facilitating this.

The reason for adding to the original title instead of a starting a new thread is to keep the post’s history, context and development as we refocus on the ‘HOW’ best we will actually be able to leave the EU without which I maintain we will never win the battle to leave the EU.

The important consideration now is to win any In/Out referendum ‘if’ and ‘when’ held and not forgetting the all important task of ensuring the outcome, assuming we win, is binding.

Currently I believe the only VIABLE ‘eXit and Survival Plan’ in the public domain is FleXcit as written by Dr Richard North, with contributions from many of those who read his blog EU Referendum blog. Even a recent review of the six finalists in the IEA’s BreXit competition acknowledged that they did NOT provide the definitive solution and another may well be needed.

What is abundantly clear is that without the ‘Outers’ mustering behind a WORKABLE plan the field will be left open to the Establishment and Europhiles to use Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) to maintain the status quo. The history of the 1975 referendum proves this point extensively and I highly recommend the well researched and authoritive book on the subject by two fellows of Nuffield College Oxford, David Butler and Uwe Kitzinger unsurprisingly called, ‘The 1975 Referendum’!

This thread was of course started on the 27th February 2011 with the intent of pointing out the differences between where UKIP should be heading and where I and others felt Nigel Farage was leading the party which, to differentiate, I called EUKip. As I asked within days of starting the thread ‘What is UKIP for’?

Despite the new title to this thread, it is still my contention, supported by many others who can see beyond his anti EU rhetoric, that Nigel’s EUkip is not fit for the purpose of helping navigate the UK safely out of the EU. In 21 years EUkip has NEVER put forward an ’eXit & Survival Strategy’ in support of their claim to be seeking an amicable divorce form the EU. Claiming you want something is the easy part but tackling the how and having the power to implement your plans is of course an entirely separate matters both of which Nigel’s EUkip doesn’t come close to – in terms of gravitas, competence or ability –  as proved over the last 21 years.

Since the beginning of this thread I have learned a great deal and been able to hone my arguments over the whole EU debate and after a few faltering early comments and remarks, which I have acknowledged, my aim has been to see UKIP reformed but not destroyed. I have tried endlessly to explain and persuade others that UKIP will never be reformed under Nigel Farage’s divisive cult style leadership and as the apparent Eurosceptic brand leader we need UKIP to appeal beyond its relatively small core vote, shown recently to be a mere 9% of the electorate, to over 50% of the electorate, a level of support obviously needed to win that referendum when called.

Another point I have brought up over and over again is that Nigel Farage has never invested the intellectual effort and time to produce an eXit and Survival plan preferring to concentrate his efforts to achieve electoral success at the Euro and General Elections. However as I have also frequently pointed out UKIP MEPs are about as much good as an ashtray on a motorbike and Nigel’s plans, to concentrate on elections, currently shows no signs of getting an MP to Westminster, especially after the Newark result where they could not have been better placed to win. They were still on the crest of the wave, after their success at the Euro elections, the candidate was the ex-Tory Roger Helmer who was well known in the area, Cameron’s Tories are unpopular with many core Conservatives and finally the out going MP Patrick Mercer was exposed for corruption.

Despite all these factors in UKIP’s favour the Tories won handsomely with 17,431 to UKIP’s 10,020. By any serious analysis this result bodes ill for any prospect UKIP has of gaining a single MP let alone a workable number at the 2015 General Election.

As I have often said Nigel and his cabal have all gone native in Brussels and his latest ‘freebie’ escapade in Malta before the Newark bye election provides all the evidence you need that he always puts his own self interests above those of HIS party.

So how can FleXcit help us leave the EU and what does it advocate?

The FleXcit paper, which I recommend is the sort of document you need to read several times to really start to understand it, is due to be published in the Autumn but you can still read the latest version as it is developed at :-
http://www.flexcit.org/

In summary the plan, which is a play on the words FleXible, eXit and Continuous Development, is just that a FleXible and Continuous Plan to help us Exit safely from the EU, after 40 years of integration, whilst upholding all our international treaty obligations which we are legally and morally obliged to honour, under the terms of the Vienna Treaty on International Treaties. This will allow us once again to gradually take our own seat at the global top table rather than, as we currently are, being represented by an unelected EU official. As we negotiate ourselves out of the EU we will be free to act directly, on the world stage, for our own interests, unfettered by membership of the EU. It is a given, as advocated by any serious commentator and even the recent IEA Brexit competition, that the start point for beginning the process of Britain’s withdrawal from the EU will result from us implementing Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.

The absolutely vital fact to grasp is that FleXcit advances a flexible continuous process that will crucially neutralise the Establishment’s use of FUD and their promotion of the false safety of remaining with the status quo, which can be seen, has not been successful especially in the EU! In the initial stages this is what has become known as the Norway Option, involving joining EFTA to retain our membership of the EEA, but it is only the start of the flexible and continuous process we will be on until we regain our complete independence from the EU. FlexCit will help fight classic FUD like the scare that ‘3 million jobs will be lost if we leave the EU’, which is simply NOT the case as we have no intention of leaving the Single Market (SM) made up of 28 countries until, further down the line, something better can be negotiated between the other 22 countries in Europe that are not members of the EU’s SM.

So FleXcit is a multi layer solution where the Norway Option is only an interim step along the way to establishing something much larger which will be achieved via the eight point plan explained in it.

Interestingly there is no strong economic case that can be made for leaving the EU and we will always struggle to argue for withdrawal on those grounds just as conversely there is equally no economic case for staying in the EU. However there are strong democratic and humanitarian reasons for leaving the EU related to the advantages of Self Determination and taking back control of our own destiny from undemocratic and unrepresentative Euro politicians and the unelected bureaucrats and of course, as already mentioned, the benefits of representing our own self interests on the world stage.

It is after leaving the EU that we would be free to concentrate on pushing forward with the introduction of The Harrogate Agenda’s (THA) six demands, which are based on the principles of Direct Democracy, as while leaving the undemocratic EU is a start we would still be faced by a corrupted and undemocratic Westminster. THA aims to give ‘Real Power to the People’.

Having left the EU an integral part of the FleXcit plan is the realisation that the democracy at Westminster must not only be greater and more responsible but more closely responsive to the peoples of Britain, to avoid them ever again being duped, as they were over the Common Market, by the MPs they have elected to serve them. Our political elite are increasingly a law unto themselves and only by the people being recognised as sovereign over our Parliament will things change. As a reminder THA’s six demands are:-

1. Recognition of our sovereignty:
The peoples of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland comprise the ultimate authority of their nations and are the source of all political power. That fact shall be recognised by the Crown and the Governments of our nations, and our Parliaments and Assemblies;
2. Real local democracy:
The foundation of our democracy shall be the counties (or other local units as may be defined), which shall become constitutional bodies exercising under the control of their peoples all powers of legislation, taxation and administration not specifically granted by the people to the national government;
3. Separation of powers:
The executive shall be separated from the legislature. To that effect, prime ministers shall be elected by popular vote; they shall appoint their own ministers, with the approval of parliament, to assist in the exercise of such powers as may be granted to them by the sovereign people of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland; no prime ministers or their ministers shall be members of parliament or any legislative assembly;
4. The people’s consent:
No law, treaty or government decision shall take effect without the consent of the majority of the people, by positive vote if so demanded, and that none shall continue to have effect when that consent is withdrawn by the majority of the people;
5. No taxation or spending without consent:
No tax, charge or levy shall be imposed, nor any public spending authorised, nor any sum borrowed by any national or local government except with the express approval the majority of the people, renewed annually on presentation of a budget which shall first have been approved by their respective legislatures;
6. A constitutional convention:
Parliament, once members of the executive are excluded, must host a constitutional convention to draw up a definitive codified constitution for the peoples of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. It shall recognise their sovereign status and their inherent, inalienable rights and which shall be subject to their approval.

For more on THA see:

http://HarrogateAgenda.org.uk

I still believe it will be important, in this thread, to continue to link to what others are saying about UKIP, as I originally set out to do, and generally comment on such links while adding my own thoughts as necessary and applicable. This of course helps to expose the incompetence at the heart of Nigel’s EUkip and of some of his supporters as demonstrated on this forum.

So by adding to my original aim, of highlighting EUkip’s need to reform, I will now use this thread to seek to explain the importance to UKIP of the FleXcit plan as currently the only workable and honourable ‘eXit and Survival plan’ from the EU which helps neutralise the Establishments use of FUD and will thus help us to win the referendum.

That UKIP members and branches still potentially have some clout, with their county coverage, is not in doubt but they will need to start to think for themselves and therefore must look beyond Nigel Farage and his cabal’s poor leadership and to push and promote the FlexCit plan. Nigel’s current focus on anti EU rhetoric and attempts to win seats next year will NOT on its own help us to win the all important referendum. I don’t hold out much hope that Nigel is capable of changing his ways and the behaviour and quality of output of his 24 MEPs will, in a relatively short time, give us all the evidence we need to see if they are really serious about wanting to leave the EU.

I hope you will join constructively in this new phase of this thread, working to assist in supporting and improving the FleXcit plan, in the spirit of continuous development, between now and the referendum ‘if’ and ‘when’ held. Also I hope you will do all you can to spread the word that the FleXcit plan helps counter the Establishments use of FUD to maintain the status quo by answering the all important question as to ‘HOW’ we can safely leave the EU. This is a plan that does NOT get in the way of party allegiances and so should provide no barrier to any real ’Outer’ supporting it.

Don’t forget that no political party is permitted to lead on either the Yes or the No side in any referendum so those who are really serious about seeking a safe and honourable exit from the EU should be able to gather around this plan.

So FleXcit it has to be if UKIP or anyone else for that matter really wants to win the battle to successfully leave the EU.

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UKIP Sells Seats, Candidacies & Office for Cash, Often Undeclared

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/05/2014

UKIP Sells Seats, Candidacies & Office for Cash, Often Undeclared
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UKIP Sells Seats, Candidacies & Office for Cash (It has also been claimed that publicly funded jobs have been the reward of sexual favours!), Often Undeclared – which may well explain the astonishingly low calliber and lack of gravitas of its MEPs and candidates, now and in the past.

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that UKIP attracts front page news like this can not be passed off, even to the most gullible, as some sort of smear tactics – this is clearly and undeniably reliable journalism and carrying out their duty to inform the public. Were this the action of any other party responsible UKIPpers would be only too pleased to see such blatant corruption exposed.
I have never heard a spokesman for UKIP speak out in support of Labour for rewarding their donors with Peerages, nor for that matter has anyone officially spoken out against Peerages for services to the Tories as in the case of the liar and racist scoundrel Malcolm Pearson!

Ukip faces scandal over ‘cash for Euro seats’

Ukip candidate Jane Collins
Jane Collins made an interest-free loan of £10,000 to the regional party branch weeks after her selection Adam Gerrard/SWNS

Billy Kenber and Alexi Mostrous
Last updated at 12:01AM, May 14 2014

 Ukip faces a “cash-for-Euro-seats” scandal after forcing MEPs to donate large sums and threatening to bar those who refused from standing again, its former deputy leader says. Ex-Ukip insiders have also raised concerns that the party favoured wealthy MEP candidates before this month’s European elections.

 

Two leading candidates for the May 22 poll, and the partner of a third, donated or lent the party tens of thousands of pounds about the time they were selected for safe seats, according to an analysis of Electoral Commission records.

 

No new MEP candidates from the Labour or Conservative party have made declarable donations in the past four years. Three Liberal Democrat candidates who have donated large amounts have not been given winnable seats.

 

The revelations come amid further controversy for Ukip. Yesterday a British Asian former chairman of its youth wing resigned from the party, claiming that it “deliberately attracts the racist vote”, while Janice Atkinson, a prospective MEP, provoked derision by asking police to arrest protesters who called Ukip members “fascists”.

 

David Campbell-Bannerman, Ukip’s former deputy leader, left the party in 2011 after repeatedly warning Nigel Farage and other top officials about its “overt [link] between financial contributions and selection to a public elected office”. He said that it was “potentially very dangerous” and could be seen as being “cash for Euroseats”.

 

In his resignation letter, leaked to The Times by a former Ukip branch chairman, Mr Campbell-Bannerman raised concerns including that “Ukip MEPs will only be there in future to keep the party solvent or to pay lip service to the leader”.

 

Mr Campbell-Bannerman, now a Conservative MEP, accused Ukip of drawing up plans to field four MEP candidates simply so they could “pay all their salary to the party” without carrying out any work.

 

He wrote that his “urgent calls” for legal advice had gone unheeded and warned that “any future Ukip MEPs beyond 2014 will either be very rich or just sycophantic placemen/women of the leader”. Mr Campbell-Bannerman said yesterday that he stood by his comments.

 

All Ukip MEPs elected this month will have signed a “code of conduct” forcing them to donate 10 per cent of their salary, equivalent to about €10,000 (£8,000) a year, to the party. Any MEP not fulfilling this promise risks being “blackballed”, according to emails sent by Alan Bown, one of Ukip’s biggest donors.

 

Mr Campbell-Bannerman was primarily concerned with pressure applied to sitting MEPs. However, a number of new candidates likely to win seats at the European Parliament on May 22 have also given generously to the party.

 

Under European electoral rules, parties register a list of candidates in ranked order in each of the UK’s 12 regions.Voters choose a political party rather than an individual candidate and each party’s share of the vote then determines how many of their ranked candidates are elected in each region.

 

Jill Seymour, 56, a parish councillor in Shropshire, is ranked first on Ukip’s regional list for the West Midlands, making her almost certain to become an MEP. She and her husband Brian, 77, a manufacturing tycoon, paid the price of a “car” to host what was then Ukip’s biggest public meeting, a 900-person gathering, in Telford last September.

 

Ms Seymour was the highest-ranked candidate in the region in a preliminary list endorsed by Ukip’s selection committee and was voted in by the party membership as the top candidate two weeks after the Telford event. Ukip has not registered the donation, which it would have been required to do if it exceeded £7,500.

 

Jane Collins and Amjad Bashir, who are ranked first and second in Yorkshire and the Humber, made interest-free loans of £10,000 each to the regional party branch in November and December 2013, weeks after their selection. Mr Bashir also financed a Ukip event attended by more than 1,200 people in Gateshead last month. Staff said hiring the venue with sound and lighting equipment and crew for an evening event would cost £10,200.

 

Mr Bashir declined to say how much the event had cost but that he was “democratically elected on merit and am working hard as a part of a team to secure the best possible result for Ukip in the European elections”. Ms Collins did not comment.

 

Ms Seymour has not campaigned as fervently as some of her fellow prospective MEPs. She has only spoken at three Ukip-organised events in the West Midlands this year, while the second- and third-ranked candidates have each spoken at least a dozen times, according to the party’s website.

 

In seven local hustings organised between the West Midlands MEP candidates since April, Ukip was the only party not to field their top-ranked candidate on a single occasion.

 

Ms Seymour said she was unable to attend every hustings because she had been “inundated” with requests, adding that she was “all over the place, we’re out all the time”. “I can’t fit myself into every hustings,” she added.

 

A Ukip spokesman said the party believed there was “no point” in responding to detailed questions from this newspaper because “past experience has taught us that you will not fully or fairly record our responses”.

 

Three new Lib Dem candidates have donated to the party since mid-2010, although none of the donations came within a year either side of the party’s regional lists being announced in December 2012.

 

Rob Speht, a former councillor, gave donations valued at £3,300 in mid-2011 while Jo Hayes, a councillor in Colchester, gave £10,000 last December. Both are number two on their regional lists in areas where the Lib Dems may well miss out on winning a single seat.

 

A Lib Dem spokesman said the party does not “require either MEPs or candidates to donate to the party” and that donations “do not play a role in the selection or ranking of Liberal Democrat European election candidates”.

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That UKIP’s selection processes for office in both elected office and employment was corrupt has long been known to those informed in the matter of dishonesty withing UKIP and its unarguably corrupt leadership. The problem has always been the willingness of the leadership clique and much of its claque to brazenly lie to the media, the legal authorities and others in a manner most redolent of sociopathy – in that it seems probable that they believed their lies were justified in their belief of the cause they claimed to represent.
To understand the style and extent of corruption one need only read of the lies and dishonesty of Douglas Denny in his capacity as a party returning officer yet willing to utterly corrupt any concepts of democracy to ensure his benefactor Nigel Farage was elected see CLICK HERE
That this was an institutionalised process is shown by the report of another returning officer for the party who enumerated corruption and outlined its extent CLICK HERE.
The indubitable and undeniable corruption that put UKIP MEPs and other officers in position is most clearly displayed by the intellectual pygmies and the institutionalised lack of gravitas of those holding office in the party; clear failings that are glibly passed off as some sort of merit in their not being competent politicians as they are not career politicians and be it the serial failure in The City, fired from his main job for his habitual drunkenness, or the shop sales assistant for BT, or even the Tory serial failure at elections David Bannerman, or even the inherited wealth and status of Stuart Agnew or William Legge, or the good fortune of making money from building society buy outs of estate agencies UKIP has not attracted and kept a single solitary MEP of any realistic competence or calliber.
The serial failures and indisputable self serving rascals and nere do wells who have ridden MEP tickets in UKIP are most plausibly understood to have gained office by bribery in one form or another, be that even pure sychophancy than was ever displayed in merit or democratic due process within the party.
That UKIP is unfit for office is hard to deny be that in its inability to either represent or even understand the processes required either to win a referendum to Leave-The-EU or to promote the benefits of Leaving where after 21 years they have achieved virtually nothing and have even failed plausibly to represent the huge upswing in opposition to membership of The EU amongst the public, diluting the message with their racist stance in supporting racism across The EU, as the undeniably do in offering support and encouragement and even direct financial succour to their CHOSEN colleagues in their Pan EU Political EFD Group, whilst having closely associated via their tawdry MEPs with such organisations as The Front National of France, The Lega Nord of Italy, The EDL  and even the BNP.
FARAGE, Nigel 37 DEAVIN, Mark - LeCOMBER, Tony
That UKIP’s line is to lie to claim they are not racist, in the face of clear evidence to the contrary and the odious display of those of ‘different’ ethnicity as a clear display of tokenism has been as risible as the individual who in pretence of lack of overt prejudice states ‘some of my friends are black’ or ‘I have several gay friends’ when they base their association with black friends or homosexual chums on very febrile linkage – just as where Nigel Farage ensures a photo shoot is organised that can be captioned ‘We are not racist we have several non white candidates’!!
Yet it was Nigel Farage, UKIP’s founder Prof. Alan Skedd assures us to this day, stated Nigel Farage said:
“We will never get the nigger vote”
which of course has been frequently denied, yet seems all too likely to be true as this most litigious of politicians has never visibly taken action to gain redress on the statement and whose subsequent support for racism has been transparent.
I do not for a moment claim that all members of UKIP are racist but it is undeniable that its leadership and senior members aid and support racism and as shown by Sanya-Jeet Thandi racism is rife a’s leadership and the party policies incline to encourage racism see: CLICK HERE
I reiterate that I do not for a moment claim UKIP membership is largely racist but it is clear that racism is a very marked part of the makeup of UKIP as a party or ALL of its members would have spoken out in disgust at the support for xenophobes,over racism, Holocaust Denial, anti homosexuality and the like amongst their CHOSEN partners in the EU EFD Group and even closer to home the propensity to incite racial hatred of Gerard Batten based upon his superstitious beliefs in association with known racists and with his vile attack on honest decent followers of Islam, which inclines and is likely to incite racial hatred and animosity – little wonder he recently obtained notoriety with allegations of a brick being thrown at his house and braking a window!
Despite Gerard Batten’s undeniable lack of understanding of the basic tenets of justice and his willingness to abuse his position to seek to pervert the course of justice I would not put it past him to have invented the story of a brick being thrown at his house for personal publicity – he was after all only too willing to ‘use’ the police to make patently false allegations against me – which fortunately the South Wales Police dismissed despite the efforts of the less diligent and untrustworthy Metropolitan Police.
Am I saying that all of UKIP members are corrupt and racist, clearly not but just as with The Metropolitan Police there is a very clear sector who are corrupt and lack due diligence.
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2013 Was Another Catastrophic Electoral Year For UKIP

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2013 Was Another Catastrophic Electoral Year For UKIP with only 15 Councillors elected out of 337 seats available and catastrophic losses amonghst the ranks of Councillors already elected and MEPs who departed!

Only a fool would buy into the spin and propaganda UKIP desperately peddles though to be fair The Tories and a few low grade journalists would seem to have more than their fair share of such fools!

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Sunday, 22 December 2013

REVIEW OF COUNCIL BY ELECTIONS FOR 2013

Thanks again to MiddleEnglander and his good work for collating this information.

There have been 337 principal local council by-elections during 2013, including those on 2nd May, with 97 (29%) changing hands.

Party   Candidates    Defended     Retained      Gained       Lost        Won Retention Rate
Conservative          332         145           98          17         47         115          68%
Labour          290         117         108          30           9         138          92%
Lib Dems          233           42           23          15         19           38          55%
UKIP          228             3          15           3           15            0%
SNP            14             6           6            0%
Plaid Cymru              9             1             1             1        100%
Green          114             5             2            1           3             3          40%
Kidderminster Health              2            1             1
Liberal              2            1             1
Resident Groups *            23             3             2            4           1             6          67%
Independent **          115           14             6          13           8           19          43%
BNP            21
English Democrat            12             1           1            0%
National Front              5
Socialist (GB)              4
TUSAC            34
Other            30
Total       1,468         337         240           97         97         337          71%

Conservatives had official candidates in in 98.5% of the by-elections, Labour in 86%, Lib Dems in 69% whilst UKIP contested 68%.

Conservatives gained 1 seat from UKIP
– whilst losing 10 to UKIPl

Labour gained 1 seat UKIP
– whilst losing 2 to UKIP

Liberal Democrats lost 2 seats to UKIP

UKIP gained 10 seats from Conservatives, 2 from both Labour and Lib Dems and 1 from English Democrats
– whilst losing 1 each to Conservative, Labour and Kidderminster Health

Kidderminster Health Concern gained a seat from UKIP

English Democrats lost a seat to UKIPSo all in all it was yet another catastrophic showing for UKIP in that out of 1,468 candidates UKIP only fielded 228 in the 337 seats being contested or 68% of the seats were contested by UKIP.Astonishingly despite the huge amount of spin from UKIP they were yet again a catastrophic failure electorally with 3 seats being defended they lost all 3 and they only managed to have 15 people elected out of the 337 seats up for election!

Similarly in the last Local Government elections less than 150 UKIP candidates were elected out of some 1,700 seats and of those a significant number have been displaced or forced to resign whilst not a single seat was gained in the General Election nor seats in the EU Regional Assemblies of Scotland, Wales, London or ant mainland region followed by total failure in both the Mayoral Elections & the Police Crime Commissioner Elections.

To add to Farage’s embarrassment during the period he has lost at least 1/3rd. of his MEPs with Marta Andreassen & David Bannerman defecting to the Tories, Nikki Sinclaire leaving on both a point of principle, unwilling to associate with the extremist and racist chums of Farage on his EFD Group, with Trevor Coleman & Mike Nattrass following her example and then Farage found even his flatmate & drinking buddy out performed him and drew attention away from him and had to be removed.

Allround UKIP’s electoral achievements have been a catastrophy having failed to make even realistic progress in Parliamentary by elections, such that one might reasonably and rationally have expectations that UKIP might gain a single seat in the 2015 Westminster Elections.

It is little or no consequence that UKIP will be seen as a dustbin for the protest vote in the utterlu insignificant EU elections next May – when clearly the public have seen through their act and recognised the void at their core that means that even after 20 years they have absolutely no credible exit and survival strategy relative to The EU and lack even a basic understanding of tactics, strategy and campaigning as displayed by the abject debacle of the London Mayoral Elections and the realisation that the Party system of selecting candidates is nothing more than a democratic fraud enabling Farage to dole out places to his sycophants and drinking chums – however low grade they clearly are.

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Farage’s Spine & will Paul Sykes add Backbone to UKIP?

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Nigel Farage’s Spine to be operated on by an Indian Doctor! Having deserted the EUroSceptic cause some 9 years ago will Paul Sykes provide cash in place of Gravitas add Backbone to UKIP?

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With Farage deciding to take time out for a bit of spinal reinforcement, he may not wish it to be generally known that the surgeon giving him a bit more backbone is of Indian immigrant stock.

But giving backbone to his party is Yorkshireman Paul Sykes who is under the impression that giving UKIP a shed-load of money to help it top the polls in May is somehow going to help us get out of the European Union.

His latest investment in the party is expected to run into several millions, as he declares: “It is time to tell the truth and let the people decide … I want this country to get back to becoming a self-governing nation”, adding that, “That is what I am in it for. I am not going to sit here and do nothing. It’s my final thing this, it’s my Waterloo”.

UKIP needs to poll 27 percent in the euro elections if it is to overtake the Conservatives as the largest UK party in the European Parliament. With Syke’s money, that is possibly more likely, although money alone has never been particularly effective in buying votes. Jimmy Goldsmith and his Referendum Party proved that.

However, the money does get Sykes space in the Telegraph to air his views, on the back of commissioning a poll showing that 74 percent of the public are opposed to the free movement of labour from Romania and Bulgaria. Just 15 percent said they were in favour.

“As a nation state, Britain is drinking in the last chance saloon”, says Mr Sykes. “Our failure to exert any control over our border with the 27 other members of the EU means that we are on the brink of abolishing ourselves as an independent country and consigning 1,000 years of nationhood to the dustbin of history”.

He goes on to say that, “I have nothing against people from Romania and Bulgaria, but given the four million immigrants we have absorbed since 1997, and given the prospect that the end of transitional controls on two of the poorest countries on the continent will trigger another wave of mass immigration … you have to drawn the line somewhere”.

Sykes says he is not a UKUP member and had no party political motivation behind his decision to provide the party with funds. “I am in this to give people a say about their future”, he says. “We are going to roll some guns out … every person in Britain will get to know a lot more from our campaign than they have ever got to know from all the other campaigns put together”.

Meanwhile, in Scotland, the UKIP campaign has already degenerated into a shambolic farce, with six of the candidates standing down as ballot papers were about to be sent out.

Amid recriminations over infighting and a civil war between the UK party and its Scottish branch, Farage stands accused once again of parachuting in one of his cronies, and giving him an unfair advantage in the selection polls.

No amount of Sykes money will protect the party from this type of dirty dealing, which has characterised the party selection process and led to some distinctly low-grade candidates representing the party. And in this case, one of the casualties is Lord Monckton, who withdrew in disgust from the list in September.

Perhaps, though, it is best if Farage is off-line for a month or so, although even fortified with a little more backbone, it is unlikely he will improve the standing of those who would represent the party in the European elections. That would take more than even a surgeon of immigrant stock could manage.

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UKIP and the Little Englanders.

by Anna Raccoon on November 14, 2013

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Ian Duncan-Smith lit the blue touch paper under the Internet savvy UKIP members late last night, by midnight they were howling at the moon – 900 vitriolic comments under an article that didn’t appear until 7.30pm!

The cause of the vitriol and hysteria? – IDS had revealed that Britons who had paid the mortgage on their house for 30 years were behaving as though they had a right to own that house, their contributions for their pension for 30 years were acting as though they were entitled to receive it, and the European Courts were backing them in a ‘ridiculous ruling’ that was costing the country around half of the £53 million the UK cheerfully shelled out to ensure that more than 15% of the Congo electorate ‘engaged with the democratic process’.

For some reason, that £53 million to people who have ‘no link’ to the UK didn’t cause the Little Englanders any pain; they certainly weren’t up all night swigging Gaviscon.

Last night they were – because it was an EU ruling from ‘unelected, undemocratic, Eurocrats’ who were forcing ‘decent hard working tax payers’ to live in penury so that pensioners living 20 miles the other side of a stretch of water could be paid the same elements of the retirement pension as those in the UK.  Merely, merely! because they had a ‘link’ to the UK (as working and paying your contributions for the required number of years to be entitled to a retirement pension is henceforth to be known).

One chap was so incensed by the idea of ‘foreigners’ (as pensioners with an address in Europe are now to be known) ‘picking up’ a buckshee cheque for £200 at his expense, that through spittle flecked speech, he was forced to explain that his brother had moved to France some years ago – and he had never visited him there because he had no intention of ‘driving on the wrong side of the road’ or ‘eating foreign food’ and he would be voting for ‘democracy to be restored to the UK’. Sheesh! 70% of the world drives on the right, so democratically and globally speaking, he’d better get used to the idea of driving on the ‘wrong side of the road’ – and good luck not eating ‘foreign food’ in the UK. No wonder Telegraph readers are the world’s largest consumers of Gaviscon (OK, I made that up) – but really, where do you find a British tomato in December? He must live on a diet of sugar beet and mutton to avoid To ‘foreign food’.

Talking of democracy, wasn’t one of those ‘unelected, undemocratic, Eurocrats’ actually elected by the people of Britain some years ago – Nigel something or other. Can’t think what happened to him…..

As it happens, back in July the Department of Works and Pensions was advising IDS to expect an increase in Winter Fuel Payments to those dastardly pensioners who dared to live the other side of the English channel to amount to £80 million – but lo! yesterday IDS was forced to ‘hit out’ as pensioners ‘pocketed cheques intended to help the elderly’ and which only amounted to 25% of the expected increase…..£21 million.

A DWP spokesman said it was impossible to tell how many of the new claimants were foreigners with links to Britain.

‘Foreigners with links to Britain’ – by definition they could only be ‘foreigners’ who had chosen to live and work in Britain long enough to earn full pension rights, so what difference does it make where they had originated from? They had agreed to pay into a pension fund, which given their current age, was busy paying out pensions and related benefits to individuals who had never put so much a a single penny piece into their ‘pension’ – on account of the retirement pension not having existed when they were working back in 1930 or whenever.

So a generation which cheerfully shouldered the burden of paying pensions to those who had contributed nothing, and built up a NHS for a generation who had paid nothing, are to be robbed of part of their pension by a generation which foams at the mouth at the idea that part of their NI contribution should be going to folk who had at least contributed…and now live 20 miles south of Dover munching ‘foreign food’.

It is beyond parody that a country memorably described as a ‘banana republic’ by a High Court Judge in respect of its ability to run free and fair elections, and which couldn’t get 15% of its own citizens out to vote for the new Police Commissioners, should pay out an average £350 per household to the mud huts of the Congo to ensure the required number vote – but begrudge its own citizens £200 on the grounds that they are ‘foreigners’ now, living in ‘EUbongo-bongoland’.

Cut pensions by £200 across the board by all means, if you can live with the decision politically and the country can no longer afford the current rate – pensioners are remarkably hardy creatures, that’s how we got to be pensioners, we will manage somehow; but is it really necessary to engage in this xenophobic battle of words and underhand dance of the dodgy statistics?

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UKIP Will Do ANYTHING for Publicity It Seems!

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UKIP Will Do ANYTHING for Publicity It Seems! They may get publicity but clearly get used in return as they offer a home to ANYONE regardless of the reasons!

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all too often one hears from the low lifes who pose as spokesmen for UKIP that there is no such thing as bad publicity – one notes how often these spokespeople hide their unpleasant and ill informed self seeking stupidity behind anonymity with false names and lies!

Lord Beaverbrook as a multi Millionaire press baron may well have been in a position to believe his comment but the amount of bad publicity UKIP gets is repeatedly showing them for what they are – a self serving clique seeking enrichment and status and as so often happens with dishonest people seeking their own gains they get demeaned and used!

UKIP has sadly failed on almost every count in domestic politics and seems to have only acted as a magnet for those seeking their own glory and as a dustbin in which to place protest votes.

Yes UKIP membership has finally  regained that which they achieved back in the days of Roger Knapmann’s leadership Steve Harrand even that was based on the lies and false promises made by Nigel Farage to dupe Robert Kilroy Silkn into membership which gained huge publicity and a downgrading of the standards  of its membership.

Let us not forget that Boys Own as a mere pop group had the same number of paid up fans as UKIP has members –

The lack of professionalism and the obvious determination of its star performer to drive anyone who might be a challenge to him out of the party and surround himself with low grade over paid ingrates is all too clear!

With endless poor publicity and incompetent leadership UKIP is going nowhere and after 20 years they still have no coherent strategy, no visible tactics, no clear plan and have still failed to present a viable UK exit and survival strategy when it comes to The EU.

UKIP will never be of consequence until it makes good the shortfall and professionalises rather than organising a revolving door of people joining the party in the hope of professionalising it and quitting in yet another series of bad publicity when they realise just how corrupt, how racist and how self serving are its leadership and its odious cronies.

UKIP pair undecided about their future

POLITICAL CHANGE ... South Tyneside councillors Steve Harrison, Linda Hemmer and George Elsom when they defected to UKIP with, from back left, regional UKIP Richard Elvin and deputer leader Paul Nuttall.

POLITICAL CHANGE … South Tyneside councillors Steve Harrison, Linda Hemmer and George Elsom when they defected to UKIP with, from back left, regional UKIP Richard Elvin and deputer leader Paul Nuttall.

Coun George Elsom, official opposition leader on South Tyneside Council, last week announced he was leaving UKIP, which he only joined this summer in order to smash Labour’s political power stranglehold in the borough.

Now Steve Harrison and Linda Hemmer have revealed they have not made their minds up about standing for UKIP – or any other political party – at local elections in 2014 and 2015.

Although still “committed” to supporting UKIP, which they joined at the start of June, both say they are still considering their future political options.

And both councillors, who represent the Fellgate and Hedworth ward in Jarrow, say they “understand” the reasons Coun Elsom quit UKIP.

Coun Harrison said: “George dipped his toe in the water and decided that he didn’t like aspects of UKIP, and Linda and I respect that.

“But we joined UKIP because we were able to maintain our political independence and because there is no whip on local councillors with the party, as there is with Labour.

“Linda and I still consider ourselves independents. It’s always been about serving the local people in our ward, never about party politics.

“We can call on the power of UKIP on bigger issues, but there has never been any interference from the party at local level.”

Coun Harrison was a Labour Party member for 12 years, but quit in 2003, after becoming “disillusioned” with the party.

Pressed to say if he will stand as a UKIP candidate in South Tyneside next year, Coun Harrison said: “I would have to go through the proper selection process and it hasn’t got to that stage yet.

“It’s not simply that I haven’t decided I won’t stand for UKIP, but that I haven’t decided I will stand for re-election at all.”

But both councillors are still backing UKIP, which will hold a recruitment meeting at the Little Haven Hotel, in River Drive, South Shields, at 7pm on Tuesday.

Coun Hemmer said: “I haven’t decided if I’m even standing for election in two years’ time.

“Being a councillor is a difficult role and I cannot say what the future holds.

“I understand George’s reasons for leaving UKIP and respect those reasons, but all three of us will still work together as independent councillors.

“Steve and I are still independent councillors, but operating under the umbrella of UKIP.

“But as I’ve said before, I don’t do party politics – I do people – and UKIP puts no party whip on us.

“I left Labour because I was disgusted with the party and remain disgusted over issues such as the closure of Queens Road Day Centre in Jarrow.

“But I don’t know if I’m standing as a candidate for any party in 2015.”

Coun Elsom, who represents the Cleadon Park ward, in South Shields, denied that joining UKIP was “a mistake”.

He said he quit because he did not believe membership would help bolster the political opposition in the borough, for the greater good of the people of South Tyneside.

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Gulleford Fails To Convince re: Tory Policy Statement.

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TORIES in Central Suffolk and North Ipswich have called for the Government to bring forward a referendum on the future of Britain’s position in the EU to before the 2015 general election

The move comes as parties step up their campaign for the 75 seats on the county council – with some Tories fearing that a strong UKIP performance could cost them votes and seats.

Constituency chairman Christopher Hudson, who is seeking re-election as county councillor for Kesgrave, said: “We Conservatives in this constituency are assuring voters in our area that we are committed to give voters a clear choice on our country’s membership of the EU.

“It is vital that we connect with the people on this central issue ASAP. This matter will not be determined by the county council but by the sovereign will of Parliament.

“Our pledge to voters in this area is genuine, serious, democratic and will indicate grass-roots reaction to this EU membership issue.”

UKIP spokesman Stuart Gulleford was not impressed by the Tories’ move. He said: “This is a blatant attempt at trying to get votes from UKIP supporters.

“We haven’t raised the EU or the referendum because it is not relevant to these elections – but we’re getting a lot of support. Sometimes it’s difficult to find people who aren’t voting UKIP.”

His party is fighting the county council elections with a specific local election manifesto – and is hoping to build on the one seat it won in the 2009 poll which was held on the same day as the European elections.

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I do appreciate that the odious & self serving Gulleford was all too obviously annoyed at being exposed as a cheat when he was rigging meetings to try to become a leading candidate on UKIP’s MEP selection list alonside the liar and cheat Mick McGough and the untrustworthy scoundrel Andrew Smith aided by Annabelle Fuller’s corruption and abuse of data protection laws and betrayal of UKIP trust!
Perhaps the foolish and untrustworthy little man should have stuck with Labour where such ineptitude is seemingly a merit or indulged his obsessive hatred of cats!
When he was willing to use any trick in the book and act dishonestly for his own prefferment it ill becomes him to try to criticise others for making honest efforts to promote their policies.
As for the concept of a Referendum being some sort of unique UKIP policy that is risible – UKIP would seem to have done almost everything they could including outright lies to endeavour to hinder Nikki Sinclaire’s team effort to get sufficient signatures to force a debate in The House of Commons which she achieved despite UKIP’s efforts at sabotage.
Let us not forget that it was UKIP that made much pretence at collecting signatures for a petition and in the event merely syphoned off £1/4Million from the public purse plus donations of an unknown amount and failed to deliver a single solitary signature nor account for one Penny of the money.
It is believed that the money which was unaccounted for was syphoned off into the bank accounts of David Lott, Nigel Farage & Mark Croucher who were supposedly organising what seems to have been little more than a scam.
Meanwhile Nikki Sinclaire’s team received not one Penny from the public purse, over and above her basic personal allowances as an MEP, and have delivered over 250,000 signatures from across the Country and have now founded a Political Party to promote the rights of British citizens to self determination and a straightforward IN/OUT Referendum relative to The EU.
Yet the unpleasant little Gulleford hold forth about stealing policies!
On the subject of UKIP dishonesty in the Eastern Region I note the inquiry by Olaf into the fraudulent use of money by the UKIP MEPs Stuart Agnew and David Bannerma as boasted of to The Sunday Times article by Daniel Foggo drags on, having not yet, it seems, reached their verdict.

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as I have repeatedly said and published for several years as soon as UKIP shows any signs of any kind of significance they would be exposed for what they really are.Increasingly UKIP are being exposed as political lightweights and extremist of no ethical substance. A cult rather than a party controlled, managed and manipulated by one man, whose finger prints will never be found on any concrete evidence of corruption, dishonesty or extremism but with a claque of followers willing to be used and manipulated as his puppets to act for him to keep him on the gravy train!The amounts of money that have appeared to go ‘walk about’ are staggering the odd £1/4Million here and a further £1/4Million there and it soon adds up to £Millions – as Nigel Farage notoriously boasted to the ex Labour EU minister later shown to have defrauded the public purse himself, Farage boasted at a Press lunch that he had received around £2Million in expenses over and above his actual expenses in the EU.

That of course was no admission of involvement in the apparent £Millions that have seemingly gone missing fr4om EU funding and UKIP direct funds including via call centers.

Perhaps the information in the report, if a little hysterical somewhat untrustworthy and clearly pedantic, that follows the press article below will give the measure of the outrage some members feel at the corruption of UKIP by its leader4ship.However do consider the source, which was a thwarted individual who had great ambitions through UKIP and may well be embittered by his failure as a manipulator, in political terms, when measured against the likes of Nigel Farage!First consider the press report below which I can attest has involved a considerable amount of research so far and is ongoing not only by this paper but by other press journalists and in other media.

Similarly we know that UKIP and many of its remaining senior members are under investigation by OLAF and by areas of the British Police.Again I reiterate the belief that UKIP is at greatest danger of destruction by the exposure of its own corruption should it ever be considered of any real significance – hence the current interest follow its apparent success at Eastleigh, despite the fact that their performance was a mere 14% of the electorate’s vote shadowing the failure of politicians in gene4ral to be considered of much significance in Britain now we are so clearly subject of direct rule by The EU.You may feel the claim we are directly ruled by The EU is untrue or at best an exageration yet this very day the EU voted 26 to 1 against the direct financial interests of these United Kingdoms.

This is not a one off! You will of course be aware that on the pretext that British meat was infected with Foot and Mouth the EU market was largely closed to us yet imports continued from many countries where the disease was endemic and indeed it will be remembered that in France the disease was nicknamed ‘JCB disease’ as farmers killed their own cattle with symptoms and buried them whilst immediately sending any other cattle to slaughter!

Furtjher be minded that no aspirant politician in Britain has set out for election without stating that the CAP (Common Agricultural Policy) of The EC, EEC, Common Market, EU, call it what you will, was unfair, hugely costly and must be changed yet in 40 years no British Government nor minister had managed to change a single detail nor a phrase or comma!

Why one may ask would one wish to be a member of an organisation that not only costs some £50Million a day but clearly acted against one’s National intertests and it is a valid question that increasingly politicians will not answer with integrity or honesty and the electorate are now by a majority seeking to Leave-The-EU yet with 60%+ of Conservative voters wanting a fair and honest Referendum, which David Cameron has now for the second time claimed he will hold to appease his members yet UKIP have so lost sight of their ‘Raison d’être‘ that they can only garner 14% of the electorate in their best ever domestic by election!Consider my oft stated truth, when thinking of UKIP and its leadership, ‘The higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its Rs’, increasingly you will note the media pointing this out, example after example!

Special Report: What voters should know about Ukip

Is there more to the party than an obsession with immigration and getting Britain out of the European Union?
 

Sunday 03 March 2013

Suddenly, the UK Independence Party is the wild card of British politics. It left the Conservative Party bruised and traumatised by beating it in the Eastleigh by-election. It is tipped to win a large share of the vote in next year’s European elections, may well cost David Cameron’s party victory at the next general election, and is the force whose electoral magnetism many say will pull the Tories ever rightward. It is also the party – its programme and personalities – that has so far escaped scrutiny. Until now.

If Ukip had a name that truly reflected its priorities, it might be called the UK Immigrationphobe Party. Ostensibly the anti-EU party, an obsession with immigration and exit from Europe as a means to close Britain’s doors is its prevailing motive. The word immigration runs through its policy statements like red lettering in seaside rock, and its proposed five-year ban on entries to the UK is the message it rams home on every doorstep.

That is far from all. It is deeply sceptical of global warming, wants to abolish inheritance tax, employers’ National Insurance contributions, aims to partially reverse the recent hunting and smoking bans, and would increase defence spending by some 40 per cent. It is, in thought if not yet in personnel, the extreme right-wing of the Conservative Party in exile; a party run in the main by self-made businessmen with an agenda to match. And it has a record of defections, internecine squabbles and acrimony, plus scandals that have led two of its former MEPs to jail.

Founded in 1991 as the Anti-Federalist League by Dr Alan Sked of the London School of Economics (it became Ukip two years later), it has had, in the past 20 years, no fewer than eight leaders. And the upper reaches of its 22,000 members are fed – and depleted – at regular intervals by defectors coming in and going out, among them its founder. Two of the people elected as Ukip MEPs have since defected to the Conservative Party, and Nikki Sinclaire, elected a Ukip MEP in 2009, was expelled from Ukip for refusing to be part of the right-wing Europe of Freedom and Democracy grouping in the European Parliament.

On the other side of the account, two of its three peers sitting in the Lords were defections from the Conservative Party; its one Member of the Legislative Assembly in Northern Ireland is David McNarry, who was expelled from the Ulster Unionists; and the only person ever to represent the party in the Commons was Robert Spink, who defected from the Conservatives in 2008.

All these comings and goings mean its headquarters must at times resemble a tourist hotel at the height of the season. The party is, in fact, run out of an office on a business park in Newton Abbot, Devon. Its latest available accounts, for 2011, reveal it has 12 employees, made up of four party officers and eight administrative staff – four fewer than in the previous year. The Ukip leadership has managed to turn around an £18,000 deficit and posted a profit of almost £100,000.

Its MEPs have been criticised for a less-than-stellar attendance record at the European Parliament. The latest data from Votewatch.eu says that Nigel Farage’s attendance in plenary has been 141 days out of 196, placing him 708 out of 754 MEPs, and his deputy Paul Nuttall managed 123 days out of 195, ranking him 742nd. More embarrassing for the party was the jailing of two of its former MEPs. In 2007, Ashley Mote, who represented South-east England, was jailed on 21 counts of benefit fraud, totalling £65,000. In 2009, Tom Wise, former MEP for East of England, was jailed for two years after falsely claiming thousands in expenses.

Mr Farage has carved out a niche for himself as a political maverick who, with a nice line in good humour, plays well on Question Time. Insiders, however, say he is somewhat shy when it comes to detail. One former Ukip member said the party had attempted to put together a co-ordinated policy platform before the last election with 18 separate policy groups charged with contributing to the Ukip manifesto. But he added: “The whole thing was eventually binned. The Ukip leadership doesn’t seem to be interested in details; it’s a very successful single-issue pressure group. Nigel was very uncomfortable with a manifesto which stated that ‘A Ukip government would do this or that’.”

Marta Andreasen, the former Ukip MEP who joined the Conservatives during the Eastleigh by-election campaign, said the party was, in effect, a pressure group. “Ukip says it has policies on things other than Europe, but none of them have been properly costed. It is very easy to use immigration as a threat to the population of this country, because people are losing their jobs and the welfare state is being reduced. I agree that there should be proper controls on immigration, but Ukip’s position on this – warning that millions of Bulgarians and Romanians would come to this country – was one of the things that contributed to my leaving the party. We were coming too close to the BNP. We were on the margins of the racists.”

To the accusations that his party is covertly racist, Mr Farage highlights the fact that the Ukip candidate in the Croydon North by-election was the Jamaican-born former boxer Winston McKenzie. However, Mr McKenzie provoked protests when he claimed that allowing gay couples to adopt was “unhealthy”.

Ukip’s deputy leader, Paul Nuttall, uses his blog to vent his spleen against political correctness. In one post, he supported the Bristol hoteliers who faced court action after refusing to let a gay couple sleep in the same bed, and the football pundits Andy Gray and Richard Keys, sacked by Sky over their “sexist” remarks about a female referee’s assistant. He wrote: “Firstly, Christian hoteliers Peter and Rosemary Bull lost a court case in Bristol, which was brought by two homosexual men who took exception because the couple refused to allow them to sleep in the same bed. What a complete joke. Aren’t people allowed to live by their religious beliefs in the country any more? … Gray was partaking in something we call ‘banter’ in football circles … It’s not as if he said it live on air, but, then again, so what if he had?”

A Ukip spokesman denied the party was obsessed with migration and insisted that it had a policy platform which “reflected all the real concerns of the British people”. He added: “We have policies on the economy, public services, Europe … everything. During the Eastleigh campaign, we expected to talk a lot about Europe, but when we knocked on doors people wanted to ask about immigration. Other people have analysed the election since and said immigration was the main concern of 55 per cent of the people who voted, so we were very much in touch with the people of that area. Ukip, of course, repudiates all types of racism and sectarianism. BNP former members are barred from joining Ukip.”

Additional reporting by Jemma Crew and Katie Grant

Ukip policies

Lower taxes

“Abolish the tax on work – employers’ National Insurance [NI].” This would lose around £50bn a year in revenue, at a stroke, reversing all progress in cutting the deficit since 2010.

“Take 4.5 million of low incomes out of tax with a simple, flat rate income tax … Merge 20 per cent basic income tax with 11 per cent NI to create a 31 per cent flat tax on all earned incomes over £11,500.” This would create another vast hole in public finances, and mean tax cuts for all higher-rate taxpayers.

“Ukip have a long-standing policy to abolish inheritance tax.” This would cost about £3bn a year.

“Global warming is not proven – wind power is futile. Scrap all green taxes, wind-turbine subsidies, adopt nuclear power to free us from dependence on fossil fuels and foreign oil and gas.”

“Cut taxes on small businesses.” Unspecified.

Lower public spending

“Public spending is increasing and the coalition’s cuts do not scratch the surface of Labour’s deficit. We must cut down government if we are to return to a sound economy.”

Quangos: “Bring them under Parliament’s control and cut the cost substantially”. No definition of “substantial”.

“Make real and rigorous cuts in foreign aid.” The aid budget is about £10bn a year.

“By leaving the EU we save over £45m a day plus £60bn a year due to EU trade barriers, business regulation, waste, fraud.” £60bn a year is equivalent to the annual spending of the entire Education Department.

Higher public spending

“Spend an extra 40 per cent on defence annually.” A cost of £19bn pa.

“Double prison places to enforce zero tolerance on crime.” Cost about £4bn pa.

“Roll all state pensions and benefits into a simple, substantial citizen’s pension.” Uncosted.

Restore student grants, but abandon target of 50 per cent of young people going to university. Uncosted.

A better yesterday

“Only by leaving the EU can we regain control of our borders.”

“Life must mean life.”

“Our traditional values have been undermined. Children are taught to be ashamed of our past. Multiculturalism has split our society. Political correctness is stifling free speech.”

“Support grammar schools.”

“End the ban on smoking in allocated rooms in public houses, clubs and hotels.”

“Hold county-wide referenda on the hunting ban.”

John Rentoul

Sources: ‘What We Stand For, A Ukip Statement of Principles’, 28 November 2011, and other documents on the Ukip website

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The 2005 Parliamentary Election for the constituency of Louth and Horncastle where Chris Pain represented UKIP, received two cheques to the value of £500 each, the said UKIP branch were only entitled to one cheque of £500 from the East Midlands Committee A second cheque was issued at the request of Chris Pain who was not an elected member of the UKIP East Midlands Committee at the time,claiming the first cheque had not been received.

As a result of this it was assumed the cheque had been lost in the post, a replacement cheque was issued. Our long serving treasurer came to the next meeting and reported that the first cheque had been presented for payment at the bank within days of being issued. The second cheque posted directly to Chris was also presented for payment despite requests from our treasurer and the RO for the cheque to be returned. The £500 was never returned despite repeated requests,.

Mr Pain an NEC member supported and recommended by the ‘Junius’ team has indicated that thr Regional Organiser ( Press Secretary, or whatever legal designation now satisfies O.L.A.F. ) Mr Donald Ransome, is to return from a holiday on Thursday and produce a report on matters. Excellant.

Cyprus is loverly at this time of year I am told, but this report may be less than sunny.He must indeed recall those words from Exodus, not to bare false witness.

A copy of this report must then be forwarded to Detective Inspector Postins of Birmingham, West Midlands Police. Failure to do just that may raise more than eyebrows, as we saw in Nottingham with a police raid, arrest and heavy questioning. More of that later though.

Mr Ransome needs to ascertain from Mr Pain, who; exactly are the ‘Junius’ team. ?

Does Mr Pain control ‘Junius’ or vica versa ?

Has Mr Pain, over the years transgressed NEC election rules by having a world wide web site promote his cause ?

How have other candidates coped with this matter, were they given similar and equal treatment ?

Has any form of favouritism occurred here with Mr Pain having internet endorsements ?

Mr Pain denegrates people including in writing, perhaps using a computer system. Some of it came to the fore only last week. There is, sadly; more.

Given Mr Pain’s denegration of others, that may have caused much upset ( Mr Clark I am told has been much hurt by ‘Junius’ cartoons of him that appear to match descriptions of him written by Mr Pain ) , has Mr Pain’s computer been criminally interferred with in order to see just what exactly is going on ( as has mine, and others too) albeit for entirely different reasons in my case including perhaps attempting to pervert the course of justice and witness intimidation ) .

Has his computer been hacked or entered in any way. I can with pleasure assist Mr Pain with this matter, and partly this is why he needs to take his computer to West Midlands Police and the live police enquiry into matters UKIP various and any intellegence that he or ‘Junius’ may possess .

Michael McGough, his senior NEC colleague urged just that of all and sundry upon this very forum.

The report by Mr Ransome must follow a natural path, chronologically.

Assisting with the Trimdon by-election with Mr Ransome during a very long day , I brought to his attention as the correct officer for members to turn to and in the proper civilised way; financial matters that were causing great concern to members, including:

The Ashford Call Centre raised money, Ashford Employment Ltd. and matters pertaining to legal requirements and the banking of our donated money.

UIKIP Wine World and the aparent disappearence of all of our money. The lack of HMRC VAT compliance. Failure of any documentation with evidently imported wine from The Lebanon being sold at UKIP events, having destroyed the proper and legal UKIP Wine World approved by the NEC.

Up to six years of national prize draws, perhaps 13 in total where monies appear not to be banked within the UKIP national accounts .

The draws under the Lotteries Acts were illegal, no licence, indeed evidently previously a legal status cancelled in favour of an illegal one.

The odd useage of a private business address in London for receipt of our monies and tickets, where indeed Mrs Kirston Farage had worked. The Birmingham H.Q. should have been used and that city council for legal registration.

Subsequently, Mr Ransome at an EMCC meeting questioned me quite specifically about the Ashford Call Centre. Details of dates when approaches were made for money, amounts donated and questions around these matters.

it must be remembered that his employer, Mr Clark MEP was indeed the national party secretary during those very generous and prosperous times and with concern expressed thus Mr Clark may have had concerns too ?

Mr Ransome does have that detail as requested by him.

Further Mr Ransome, within that report should list for Mr Stuart Wheeler the treasurer, ( and of course the police) areas that require external audit with an opportunity for one and all to question figures as provided.

This will include:

Ramsgate Call Centre.

Ashford Call Centre / Ashford Employment Ltd.

Preston Call Centre.

Around 13 national prize draws under the Lotteries Act unregistered anywhere in Britain, and the use of a private business address in an unrelated city to H.Q. where money was sent.

UKIP Wine World and all HMRC documents.

The use of a Bath council flat for receipt of monies.

£ 211,000 appearing to disappear from a set of regional accounts as ” other costs”

£ 250,000 obtained for a street collection of names and addresses when only an A4 sheet of paper was provided for that money and he ( Mr Ransome) told us to go away and photocopy it.

£ 11,000 destined for The Metric Martyers of Sunderland appears to disappear. Where is it ?

All movements of IDG group money.
Is that 10 MEP’s x E 50,000 per annum x 5 years ? A vast sum of money.

All movements of E.F.D. group money .
Is that 12 MEP’s x E 50,000 per annum x 5 years

Expanations about the Ohio account.

Explanations about something that may be called the 4000 account ?

These are some of the areas for Mr Ransome to concern himself with, we may provide a few more however.

Mr Ransome , within this report must also include the following:
I resigned with great sadness from the NEC quite specifically due to frauds, including as reported .I had honestly attempted to do something to protect us but the support was not available.

I was treated very badly at that last meeting, raving, shouting swareing abuse as others just bowed their heads to the table in shame.It was reported to Bedfordshire police by someone, not me though.

I thought that was the end of the matter, I just wanted to get on with branch and regional work, .

Subsequenty, a lot of nasty things happened, including:
A person identified to me by Northampton Borough Council using a mobile telephone rang them and attempted to drive me off the MEP lists that I was legally a part of .Nasty lies and defamation was used against me.

My then just widowed mother was traced ( different telephone district to me) and two frightening calls made about me intending to intimidate her and thus me by implication.

The Inland Revenue were missled about me costing all money.

( Richard ‘Ski’ experienced similar but far worse in that context)

I begin to hear verbal statements of very nasty things indeed about me.

I was isolated for standing up to fraud and questioning the evident disappearence of our money.

The News of the World paper was fed a lot of information about me and Sophy Ridge telephoned me about matters pertaining to a former police officer and UKIP MEP Tom Wise. I politely send them away.

Donald Ransome, who sometimes calls himself the Regional Organiser spammed my computer, costing me money to effect a repair.

Donald Ransome spammed my computer to total destruction using some device , such that it crashed, and mechanics were unable to access anything from it.Physical evidence is held by the police, and myself too.

I had to buy another system.

The entire contents of my computer was evidently taken to be replaced by ‘Spam’ from Mr Ransome, this included a valuable and saleable asset, namely my Bedfordshire police statement concerning Mr Tom Wise MEP and our UKIP Wine World money.

Donald Ransome at my last EMCC spent 1 hour and twenty minutes abusing me, shouting threats. I was not intimidated.

At that meeting I held up numerous examples of unlawful prize draws and questioned about the whereabouts of our money.

At that meeting I held up bank statements from Ashford Call Centre that showed quite huge money movements in and out. I was specific about £ sums.

At that meeting I raised UKIP wine world with certain documentation shown.

He, Mr Ransome three times threatened to take me outside and evidently beat me up.

Mr Ransome made an evident death threat intent to me. All of course witnessed.

I never raised my voice, I never used a wrong word.I was always calm and restrained.

Mrs Ransome, known as Sue; threatened to sue me. So, with Sue to sue and Donald to beat me up three times perhaps prior to even worse I was with others thrown off the committeee by the new chairman Mr Clark who appeared to seize the chair from the properly elected officer Mr Baker.

Two members dared to ask of Sue ( to sue remember) why she needed to take her shouting and raving and stabbing off at an odd tangent. Something appeared to worry her greatly.

Meanwhile no answers have ever been provided to very simple legitimate questions about our money, as given. Odd.

Then officers of the party attempt a reconciliation of our national accounts. Bank statements showing perhaps up to 95% of our money movements as explained converted into cash I am assurred appears to leave the party coffers.

I write all without prejudice and as explained.

Considerable work is carried out upon H.Q. site Birmingham thence elsewhere. The work is properly filed and documented. Certain bank statements were specifically denied however. Originals ( not copies, but the originals) were carefully stored within an unused office.

Following me being driven off the EMCC with nastiness, Mr Geoffrey Kingscott a former party secretary is treated to a similar action. Someone has explained to me that his abuse as received was worse than mine, but I was history by then and merely an object of derision.

A mild mannered man only interested in the well being of the party and members, Mr Kingscott never returns.

The the 15 year serving East Midlands treasurer always re-elected has a police raid upon his home and from around 0800-1800 questioned aggressivly and literally terrified by lies that had been fed to a charity, ‘Crimestoppers’ about him that caused a police raid with 8/9 officers and a battering-ram device. The stories are a slander.
His health was broken by that incident.Literally terrified by what was going on his mental/pschological state was damaged by the experience.
He had discovered much.

Mr Ransome’s report will of course recall the then national treasurer Mr Smith and his e-mails during the Electoral Commissioners case that appeared to request forms of misleading the authorities as to what was going on in certain contexts.

The report will explain how Mr Derek Clark MEP was always evidently able to deny any E.U. fraud office involvement with his affairs. Reports of false accounting and moneylaunding evidently untrue.

Mr Ransome needs to discuss any destruction of paperwork and computers if it ever happened.
Who was involved destroying the Nottingham office contents ( if it occurred).
Why would people do that ?
Were any originals or copies of attempts to reconcile our national accounts found there during the frenzy and destroyed, or taken to places from where they were hidden ?

Why were the failed attempts not given to the authorities and an investigation requested, in order to protect volunteer members. ?

As Mr Pain writes, ” Nigel is already watching me very carefully and it would stop me from trying to reform the party “
Mr Ransome needs to articulate those reforms as described by his regional chairman and NEC member, that hopefully take account of the above and perhaps even more.
” some great mileage her for Junius” writes Mr Pain over another of his wheezes.

Well before ‘Junius’ and Mr Pain go public, perhaps they will assist Mr Ransome with his report and deliver it to West Midlands police ( along with Mr Pain’s computers) where a live investigation has consumed resources for over one year now.
Volunteer members who were so very kind and generous deserve just that.

Finally , may I congratulate all of the decent volunteers with their recent Eastleigh by-election result, ( this following Corby and Rotheram) .They are a credit to the British Eurosceptic movement.

May I add a caveat! Whatever Ian Gillman may claim I have every reason to believe that Chris Pin hasn’t a clue nor any valid provenance as to who may be on The Junius Team and thus clearly has absolutely no influence over them or personal input to their articles or comments.You may safely be aware that several of the points Gillman attributes to Pain and a contact with Team Junius have been items supplied by myself to the team having garnered the information from third party verifiable sources almost all of whom are in The EU.

As with the simple fact that Chris Pain’s managing to get himself onto UKIP NEC has led to a great deal of annoyance on the part of Nigel Farage – seemingly just as he was determined to strangle the nascent aims of transparency, probity and openness of an accountable leadership represented by Dr. David Abbott, Dr. Eric Edmond and others as with Richard Suchorzewski and others previously.

It is also worth noting that of his own admission Ian Gillman is not very computer literate and has had detailed discussion with me in tyhe past regarding computer protection and clearly claimed he had no recognised computer anti virus system.

Frankly the degree of professionalism of the attacks on his computer, had he had even the simplest form of virus protection, way exceeds the importance of anything that might ever have been on his computer and never, in all his dramatic accusations has he EVER identified anything of consequence on his computer worthy of the efforts of professional standard hacking with or without anti virus.

Ask yourself what gain would ANYONE derive from hacking Gillman’s computer? He clearly has failed to convince me and others of any motivation anyone might have beyond seeking to possibly irritate him!

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The unprincipled behaviour of Godfrey Bloom, Farage & UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/12/2012

The unprincipled behaviour of Godfrey Bloom, Farage & UKIPTITLE
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
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The unprincipled behaviour of Godfrey Bloom of EAF & UKIP, Nigel Farage of EFD & UKIP!
As highlighted by Mary Honeyball & shown up by Mick McGough, Marine LePen & UKIP Pond Life!

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yet again the unprincipled bufoons of UKIP leadership team hand yet another stick to the anti British lobby with which to beat on patriots who genuinely seek to Leave-The-EU – Unlike, it would seem, UKIP who are clearly having far too much fun on the Gravy Train feeding on the huge bribes they are bought with.
December 11, 2012 · 10:15 am
 HONEYBALL, Mary 01& From Her Blog:

UKIP’s Godfrey Bloom MEP “I share a glass of wine a few times a year with Marine le Pen”

At the start of December, Yorkshire & Humber MEP Godfrey Bloom wrote an article defending his involvement with the European Alliance of Freedom (EAF), a pan-European political party which includes far-right parties from across Europe. Despite Bloom’s active involvement in the EAF, UKIP has a policy of not joining pan-European political parties. He argued that the party, whose executive include the French Front National, Belgian Vlaams Belang and Austrian Freedom Party, are solely united by their euro scepticism.

However, he then admitted to sharing “a glass of wine a few times a year with Marine le Pen” saying she was a ‘protectionist and socialist’.

Marine Le Pen is the leader of the Front National in France, and the daughter of its founder Jean-Marie Le Pen, who has been convicted of racism of inciting racial hatred at least six times. In 2010, Marine Le Pen compared Muslims praying in France to Nazi occupiers, and when challenged said “My comments were absolutely not a blunder, but a completely thought-out analysis.”

Godfrey Bloom was chair of the EAF until last month, when a new board was announced at a press conference in the European Parliament. The new chair is Franz Obermayr from the Austrian Freedom Party, and Marine Le Pen and Belgian MEP Philip Claeys are co-Presidents. Fellow board member is Kent Ekeroth, an MP for the Swedish Democrats.

The leader of the Austrian Freedom Party, Heinz-Christian Strache, was roundly condemned in August this year for posting a cartoon on Facebook similar to anti-Semitic Nazi propaganda. A former FPÖ official is currently facing criminal charges for campaign literature with the slogan “Love your home country instead of Moroccan thieves”.

Kent Ekeroth is currently ‘taking a break’ from the Swedish Democrats, after footage of him and several key Swedish Democrat politicians on a drunken racist rampage was leaked to the press.  The Swedish Democrats also hit the headlines for recently sending a schoolboy a web link showing decapitated bodies in response to a request for their views on Islam.

Philip Claeys is a member of Vlaams Belang, a Flemish separatist party established after its previous incarnation, Vlaams Blok, was dissolved in 2004 for violating race hatred laws. Recent Vlaams Belang campaign literature included a picture of a white sheep kicking a Moroccan Muslim sheep out of Europe.

Bloom appears to have closer views to his fellow EAF members than he admits.  He referred to ‘dim-witted Johnny Asiatic’ in a recent article on trade tariffs on Chinese pottery, and was ejected from the parliamentary chamber for shouting Nazi slogans at a German MEP in 2010.

Bloom also stood for UKIP in Humberside for the Police & Crime Commissioner elections in November, coming fourth with 16.06% of the vote.

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May I rermind Godfrey Bloom & Nigel Farage – Bloom as founder of the extremist Pan EU Political Group to which Ms. Honeyball was able to allude and Nigel Farage the leader of yet another vile extremist, racist Pan EU Political Group The EFD – clearly they require reminding!

UKIP members when called upon to support the corruption of UKIP by their self serving leaders totally rejected such sell outs of principle.

The result was a resounding rejection as even Nigel Farage’s puppet Steve Crowther made clear – The only individual who seemed to support the scam was the liar, cheat and unprincipled little creep Mick McGough who will clearly jump through any hoop to make a fool of himself and UKIP when told to by his puppet masters.

Amusing as it may be to speculate that the odious Mick McGough is so universally despised even I can not believe that his presence alone ensured the failure of the scam!

Yet in total contempt for the members Nigel Farage & Godfrey Bloom completely ignored them and continued to promote their vile cash cows! The members are clearly irrelevant to the leadership who are, it seems, only interested in their own grubby self enrichment.

Little wonder that senior Tories have rejected Farage’s efforts to sell out on UKIP in return for either a Cabinet seat or a Peerage as we hear they have, considering UKIP as insufficiently consequential in domestic politics to be worth even trying to buying off! Particularly at Farage’s inflated price.

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