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Nigel Farage Confused In His Opposition To Ukip Views On Homosexuals

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/11/2014

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Nigel Farage Confused iIn His Opposition To Ukip Views On Homosexuals, trying to distance himself from one of his battier ex Deputy Leaders yet defending his current leader in The EU the arcane Roger Helmer.

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Nigel Farage condemns former Ukip deputy Monckton’s comments that gay men have ‘20,000 sexual partners’ in their ‘miserable lives’

 

Farage is the same man who defended rampantly homophobic Newark candidate Roger Helmer earlier this year, who likened gay marriage to incest

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Nigel Farage has come to the aid of Ukip’s ever-dwindling reputation for tolerance by condemning homophobic comments made by the party’s former deputy leader this week.

Lord Christopher Monckton, who is also a former Conservative advisor, claimed that AIDS was the “wages” of gay promiscuity and dismissively referred to LGBT people as “QWERTYs”.

Lord Monckton speaks at UKIP's Young Independence party Lord Monckton speaks at UKIP’s Young Independence party Writing for WorldNetDaily, he asserted that some gay men “had as many as 20,000” in their “short, miserable lives” and declared HIV a “gay disease”.

In a column for The Independent, Farage said there was “no place for men like Monckton”, the Glaswegian politician lwho eft the party in December 2013, in Ukip.

Read Nigel Farage’s Column In Full Here

“Now, I’m not sure where Viscount Monckton is getting his statistics, but to frame these comments as he has is both deeply offensive and fundamentally wrong,” Farage commented.

“This sort of disruptive, crass and insensitive work serves to underscore why people with views such as these, openly mocking while seeming oddly threatened  by homosexuals, should get no support from Ukippers.”

He went on to highlight the existence of an “LGBTQ in Ukip” Facebook page for gay Ukip supporters, which has notched up over 1,200 followers thus far.

He then added: “How many other parties have an MEP who describes himself as ‘spectacularly homosexual’ and a ‘great big screaming poof’? David Coburn MEP’s words – not mine!”

Farage concluded by writing that Ukip wasn’t “a place for division or malice” and pointing out that “the word ‘United’ is in our name”.He didn’t, however, mention his tireless defence of Ukip’s rampantly homophobic Newark by-election candidate Roger Helmer earlier this year.

Helmer provoked anger after he said some people find homosexuality “distasteful if not viscerally repugnant”. He has also likened same-sex marriage to incest.

Farage spoke in support of his views, saying that many people of Helmer’s generation, who grew up in a period of time in which homosexuality was illegal, would  have harboured similar opinions.

“Actually if we asked the 70s and over in this country how they felt about it, most of them still feel uncomfortable. He has said the world has moved on, he now accepts there’s been a big social change in Britain and he’s relaxed about it.”

Spinning tolerance on its head, he further told the BBC that if modern society was as accepting as it believes itself to be, it would also find a space for that of Helmner’s off-kilter assertions.

Henley-upon-Thames Ukip councillor David Silvester was, however, suspended from the party, after he blamed Britain’s extensive floods on the passage of the gay marriage bill in January.

On the subject of gay marriage himself, Farage told LBC in March: “We are opening up a very big can of worms here, with many very big risks.

“I think the Church of England is going to go through a very difficult and miserable time as it is dragged through the courts of Strasbourg. I can’t prejudge what will happen there, but possibly forced to conduct gay marriages in those churches against the will of vast majority of churchgoers.”

Asked to further explain his position on gay marriage, were Britain not part of the EU, he said: “I do not support same sex marriages all the while we’re under the auspices of the European court of human rights.”

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Thoughts & Suggestions On Ukip & Tory Future

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/11/2014

Thoughts & Suggestions On Ukip & Tory Future
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Thoughts & Suggestions On Ukip’s & Tory#s Future in widespread circulation amongst branch leaders.

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for your information I have published below, without any editing or alteration a suggestion which is being widely circulated in Ukip at branch level.
It has, in my opinion, some merit but unfortunately I do not believe it is likely to go anywhere as it requires an element of surrender of personal greeds and ambitions that political aspirations are unlikely to accomodate.
That said it is pleasing to note that there are some outthere trying to improve or system of governance, though my support lies firmly with The Harrogate agenda and FleXcit.

Procedure By Which conservatives Could Control  Parliament

If Ukip is Lucky, Ukip could, perhaps, get five to ten seats in Parliament. Do not forget, the public still regards Ukip  as a one issue  party. To gain control of Parliament Ukip  and (and friends) should form a new conservative party with a platform that is close to that of the existing Conservative party, omitting, of course, policies that are objectionable to conservatives.

The purpose would be to make a bed that would be easy for conservatives to slide into, including the eighty  percent of the Conservatives who left Conservative  associations. Ukip and the conservatives should then  form a  political  association  in  each  parliamentary  district. Ukip could merge with the new party, thus getting rid of the one issue problem. 

Every one who would have worked to form the new, conservative, party should be prevented from joining the new party for a period of time to prevent the impression that Ukip controls it.

The two or three conservative parties should hold a primary election to determine who runs as the Parliamentary candidate, with the losers to help the winner. The cost of forming new associations can be raised by local contributors. It is suggested that the  new   conservative associations and the political party be controlled by the lowest level of conservatives, such as teachers, small businessmen, solicitors, professionals etc.

If the above procedure can not be completed in time to get candidates elected to Parliament, the new party must wait until after the  election  and  hold  a  petition demanding that the elected MP resign.

Note: an MP represents every person in his district, not just members and supporters of his party. When the petition reaches fifty percent of those who voted in the prior election, the conservatives will be morally justified in demanding their MP’s resignation. Then the new party could run their candidates in the following by elections. 

To select a candidate, a local  association should advertise for applicants or the position of candidate for  Parliament, then select the best applicant by using rigorous tests, including, most importantly, psychological
evaluation. psychological evaluation is an absolute necessity as the psychological evaluation is the only way to tell who is honest and who is a conartist; members of the public  cannot.

Testing could be required of the association officers, committee members and delegates, etc.

The platform, selected by new party associations, should be some what vague in order to facilitate integration  the platforms of the new associations into one platform. It is suggested that self forming cliques of those who are honest and trust worthy be formed; then form self forming cliques of those who have  political skills and capabilities,  within  the first described clique.

The Iron Law of Organisations states that “Unless specifically excluded, all organisations with power, audience or capital will be controlled, dominated, ruled or ruined by the following quad: opportunists, neurotics, the partisan and the hostile” achieving such through some of multiple dirty tricks developed through the centuries.

All political  parties are formed out of lobbying groups, the equivalent of think tanks, etc, going back  decades  before the party’s formation. Thus  everybody forming the party had a pretty good idea of the other formers’ character and could exclude  dangerous individuals who  might  destroy or  hinder  the  party.

Ukip is an exception to the rule. A bonanza suddenly appeared in form  of  opposition to The European Union and to immigration. Numerous opportunists jumped in to form Ukip; the first became the leadership and secured their power with their true character being known. Thus people with unknown personalities became leaders. Should Ukip gain control of  Parliament you can expect scandals with precedent.

In addition, Ukip has no expertise in anything except immigration.

I find the above suggestion rather clouded by a rather naive understanding of Ukip which over eggs their ability with comments like:
In addition, Ukip has no expertise in anything except immigration.
clearly Ukip, in the field of immigration, either has little knowledge of the facts pertaining to immigration or it does know and is misrepresenting the facts dishonestly for their own personal gain playing on the fear and ignorance of the public.
Ukip grossly oversimplifies the issues and tries to pretend that if we Leave_The_EU the problem would be solved when clearly, even with minimal understanding, the EU is in the same invidious position as Britain believes itself to be in – immigration is a global issue and a global problem as shown by the fact that Britain’s immigrant percentage is low relative to may of the EU’s other vassal regions and has the same level of immigrants as the USA but far less than Norway, Switzerland, Australia and even Germany.
It is this sort of sloppy and dishonest behaviour in Ukip with its leadership team publicly contradicting eachother on core policy and some of its overtly racist publications that ensures that in thwe long run they are going nowhere!
I believe it is optimistic of Ukip to believe they will have any MPs elected at the general election as they overlook the probability of a collapse of the party either in internal squabbles or in disgrace over its apparent industrial level corruption.
That is not to say they will be lucky and not be exposed in time for it to effect the outcome of the election but as one wit put it with Labour:
‘Vote Labour and get Milliband’!
One might consider
‘Vote Ukip and get inept corruption’.
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Winston McKenzie Exposes Ukip To Ridicule Again!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/11/2014

Winston McKenzie Exposes Ukip To Ridicule Again!
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Winston McKenzie Exposes Ukip To Ridicule Again surely they must be hoping he decides to change parties yet again soon, though he is a part of Ukip’s Racist tokenism culture!

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this is not, as Ukip followers will be all too well aware, Winston McKenzie’s only recent brush with ordure and making Ukip look almost as foolish as he has consistently proved to be!
Frankly I can’t be bothered publishing the all the serial stupidities and spectacular ‘FAILS’ of this ridiculous little self publicist, but a quick search on the internet will provide more than enough evidence of his antics!

UKIP’s McKenzie takes revenge against local whistleblower

Winston McKenzie: don't get the wrong side of "The Avenger"

Do not, whatever you do, get the wrong side of Winston McKenzie, UKIP’s parliamentary candidate for Croydon North at next year’s General Election.

Because if you do, then he might drum you out of his little club.

The ex-boxer likes to describe himself as “Champ”, despite having never won a title or a public election. He may soon be nicknaming himself “The Avenger”, after the whistleblower who reported strange goings-ons with a large cash donation to his party was this morning kicked off McKenzie’s committee and out of UKIP’s Lambeth and Croydon North branch.

McKenzie characterised the outcome of the meeting this morning as “being kind to the old boy”. Not so much “The Avenger”, perhaps then, as “The Smiling Assassin”.

McKenzie, Nigel Farage’s chosen party spokesman on “Commonwealth issues”, was exposed as having failed to properly handle and account for a £1,000 donation to party campaign funds earlier this year.

As Inside Croydon reported, McKenzie claims to have used a large chunk of the cash – which never saw the inside of a bank – to pay a few of his mates for “security” at his chaotic Croydon Carnival in May (for more details CLICK HERE). Not that McKenzie ever bothered getting any receipts or invoices for the expenditure, which was apparently made on behalf of UKIP.

Beyond a slapped wrist and instructions to the branch treasurer, Lady Bowness (she is the former wife of Tory peer Lord Bowness), to take more care with the party’s money in future, a report into the matter conducted by Mick McGough, a member of UKIP’s national executive, recommended no further action against McKenzie.

Inside Croydon was leaked McGough’s report, which you can read by clicking here. It is all pretty basic stuff.

Why was there no further action taken by UKIP? “Nigel feels that Winston is useful to the party,” said a senior figure within UKIP nationally, without expanding on what that “usefulness” might be. “That’s despite the lorry-loads of baggage that Winston brings with him.”

UKIP leader, Nigel Farage: seems to think "Chump" McKenzie offers something to UKIP

Given such a free pass, McKenzie appears to believe he can run his branch of UKIP as his own fiefdom.

So this morning, McKenzie chaired a meeting of UKIP’s Lambeth and Croydon North branch committee, called to expel from the branch the member who had highlighted the irregularities over the handling of the large sum of money.

The committee meeting was held at the “branch headquarters” on Station Road in South Norwood. “In attendance will be the Committee, myself, Marianne Bowness, Barry Slayford and Peter Kirby,” McKenzie wrote in his meeting summons.

It seems that McKenzie’s Lambeth North and Croydon branch has a committee of just five people.

Only two of those actually live in the branch area of which they are members. UKIP’s own rules on “migration” between membership areas appears a good deal more relaxed than the party’s policies on migration between EU member states.

Three of McKenzie’s branch committee do not live Lambeth and Croydon North: Marianne Bowness is a Waddon resident (in the Croydon South parliamentary constituency, and therefore under a different UKIP branch), Peter Kirby comes from Heathfield (ditto), and Peter Morgan lives in Coulsdon (same again).

And then there were four: Morgan’s UKIP membership is suspended at the moment, because of his penchant for running multiple Twitter accounts without any accountability. So he was not on the five-person committee meeting invitation list.

And McKenzie’s committee is now just three-strong, because Kirby, UKIP Lambeth and Croydon North’s membership secretary, has now been removed. Kirby was the person who raised the matter of McKenzie and treasurer Bowness’s somewhat lax financial accounting.

Today’s meeting – which was due to start at 11am on a weekday, when most hard-working people are at work – was to consider just two motions: one to accept the resignation of Kirby as a signatory to the branch bank account (Kirby tendered this resignation at the extraordinary meeting to discuss the financial irregularities on November 19), and second “To vote on the removal of Peter Kirby as a Member of the Lambeth & Croydon North Branch”.

Until today, Inside Croydon had heard nothing further from “Chump” McKenzie since he somewhat rashly threatened to employ Messrs Sue, Grabbit & Runne to sue us (though he omitted to say on what grounds).

So we phoned his mobile shortly after the meeting was due to finish. A somewhat harassed-sounding woman answered. It was Marianne Bowness. We asked to speak to Winston, and whether they’d had their meeting.

“I’m on the bus,” said her ladyship. “I’ll get Winston to call you when I am back in the office.”

Nearly two hours later, McKenzie called to say, “Peter’s a lovely bloke, but he’s getting on, he’s 83 I think.

“This has been coming for some time, and it’s affected my health, but things have changed since the local and European elections. He’s said that he’s tired and old and that he’s got to go. I begged him not to go.

“But I’ve got to accept his resignation and be kind to the old boy.”

By time of publication, Peter Kirby has not responded to our request for a comment.

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Are #Ukip & Their #Met Chums Closer To Prison Now?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/11/2014

Are #Ukip & Their #Met Chums Closer To Prison Now?
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Are #Ukip & Their #Met Chums Closer To Prison Now?

Judging by #Justice4Jasna it is not just the weight of evidence but the calliber of their ‘critics’ that damns them!
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it does look as if members of Ukip leadership team and what seem all too clearly to be corrupt police officers working for them are inexorably moving closer to exposure and resolution of their crimes in the courts.

The gravity of their position is increasingly irrevocable as Boris Johnson has managed to confirm. Here is the answer to one of the two questions on the subject of Jasna Badzak, which he was asked last week!

The answer is without doubt damning for the corrupt police! Proof of the corruption will in my opinion lead to the resignation of head of the Met. Hogan-Hunt and probable prison for the officers concerned and as the members of Ukip heirarchy are in elected office & public servants their fate can hardly be less than prison, if justice is to be seen to be done:

Mayor's QT 1 Answer 01

The following comments include allusion to various evidence and clear reference to facts on Twitter under the #tags #Justice4Jasna & #JusticeForJasna – there are of course many many more comments on the subject, each more or less informative and damning to the corrupt police as they seem to be in their co-operation with the abusive Ukip officials!

1. Irie and 2 others follow
Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP 15m15 minutes ago
@MarkLewisLawyer has taken on #Justice4Jasna

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Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP 32m32 minutes ago
Now #Justice4Jasna can get moving with @MarkLewisLawyer onboard
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• Jasna Badzak and 1 other follow
Kathrina Visitkarte ‏@Visitkarte 40m40 minutes ago
Mark Lewis is a brilliant lawyer, fighting for #Justice4Jasna fighting against #UKIP
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Mouth of Sauron ‏@simon_lindsell 42m42 minutes ago
#Justice4Jasna Tick tock, #Ukip
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Sam hussain ‏@Samsoprano30 1h1 hour ago Middlesbrough, North East
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#Justice4Jasna get it trending today, SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists 2h2 hours ago
• Just heard that the brilliant @MarkLewislawyer has joined the fight for #Justice4Jasna. #UKIP #UKIPCorruption
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Lee Jasper ‏@LeeJasper 2h2 hours ago
A big thank you to @MarkLewislawyer a committed lawyer fighting for #Justice4Jasna @JasnaBadzak
Trial date Wed 24/11 9.30 West Ldn Mags
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Lee Jasper ‏@LeeJasper 2h2 hours ago
• The political trial of @JasnaBadzak @UKIP critic West London Mag’s Court Tollgarth Rd 9.30 Wed 26th Nov #Justice4Jasna RT I wouldn’t miss it
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Southend Marxist ‏@p1966k 3h3 hours ago
Come on: Please RT: Stop #UKIP criminal behaviour. Please support @MarkLewislawyer who is a brilliant lawyer fighting for #Justice4Jasna
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Harry Stephenson ‏@HS_feed 3h3 hours ago
Would like to thank @MarkLewisLawyer for helping @JasnaBadzak with her case. #Justice4Jasna
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Chemical Punnage ‏@Uncleskinny 4h4 hours ago
I hope #UKIP take note that @MarkLewisLawyer is fighting for @JasnaBadzak. #Justice4Jasna
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Chemical Punnage ‏@Uncleskinny 4h4 hours ago
Brilliant to hear that the superb @MarkLewisLawyer is fighting for @JasnaBadzak . Good luck to both. #Justice4Jasna
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Irie ‏@Dubdanu 6h6 hours ago
@TamoorT alleged corruption in ukip and @metpoliceuk >>http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … #Justice4Jasna RT. In court tomorrow!
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Harry Stephenson ‏@HS_feed 9h9 hours ago
Can you really be arrested for RT blogs? Can you be silenced for being a critic of a political party? http://youtu.be/Yy6t1cYuWfg #Justice4Jasna
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Harry Stephenson ‏@HS_feed 9h9 hours ago
Jasna Badzak at West London Mag’s Court Tollgarth Rd Wednesday 9.30am for RTing a blog by MET Police #Justice4Jasna http://youtu.be/Yy6t1cYuWfg
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Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP Nov 24
The day after tomorrow @JasnaBadzak is in court for RT’ing a blog by @LeeJasper #Justice4Jasna http://leejasper.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/ukip-metropolitan-police-service-and.html?m=1
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Irie ‏@Dubdanu Nov 24
@LouiseMensch Have you an update on this please?http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … @LeeJasper @JasnaBadzak @WomenDefyUKIP #Justice4Jasna
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Bob From Brockley ‏@bobfrombrockley Nov 23
Am only just catching up with this appalling story of #UKIP/cop collusion to crush a whistleblower http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … #Justice4Jasna
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NorseFired ‏@NorseFired Nov 21
A few reasons why a UKIP govt is a terrifying thought > http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/https://twitter.com/NorseFired/status/529425022700380160 … #Justice4Jasna
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Louise Mensch ‏@LouiseMensch Nov 19 Manhattan, NY
This will be a bit of a problem for @MetPolice in #Justice4Jasna case https://twitter.com/DannyShawBBC/status/534666376443875328
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Mortimer Nutleg™ ‏@martasaurus_rex Nov 17
Joshua Bonehill’s latest wibble on the bale is mindnumbingly gobsmacking in its ignorance, malice & utter lack of insight. #JusticeforJasna
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TG ‏@TelepathicGoat Nov 16
@LouiseMensch The non existent James Galvin questioned a suspect earlier this year. http://dailym.ai/1uhenAS via @MailOnline #JusticeForJasna
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John O’Connell ‏@jdpoc Nov 15
Hearing Jasna Badzac, ex-#UKIP, harassed by ‘Police’ again tonight. On @GerardBattenMEP orders? Or another UKIP official? #JusticeForJasna
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Morrigan ‏@Morrigan_Roars Nov 11
FFS! Leave Jasna & her child alone you vile cowards!! #JusticeForJasna
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Morrigan ‏@Morrigan_Roars Nov 10
If you’re not outraged, you’re NOT paying attention! #JusticeForJasna

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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 9
Gerard Batten on #WMHour saying he wants to be tough on crime. Good. #PervertingCourseOfJustice #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 7
Tweet of the day by @RutlandNed, and it’s not even 10 AM yet. https://twitter.com/RutlandNed/status/530640423497523201 … #JusticeForJasna
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Exposing UKIP ‏@Exposing_UKIP Nov 6
#BBCQT : Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk illegal intimidation of UKIP Critics ? #JusticeForJasna
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John O’Connell ‏@jdpoc Nov 6
#BBCQT : Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk illegal intimidation of UKIP Critics ? #JusticeForJasna
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John O’Connell ‏@jdpoc Nov 6
RT @Exposing_UKIP: #BBCQT in 5 minutes. Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk intimidation ? #JusticeForJasna Please RT
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Exposing UKIP ‏@Exposing_UKIP Nov 6
#BBCQT in 5 minutes. Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk intimidation ? #JusticeForJasna
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Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP Nov 6
When is Batten going to call off his henchmen? http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
Oh, and @JasnaBadzak, it was great to speak to you, and glad to hear that my tweets make you smile! 🙂 Get well soon. #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
Just had a phone chat with @JasnaBadzak, and @LouiseMensch is correct – there is much more to come. #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
@LouiseMensch I don’t agree with you on much, Louise, but would like to heartily thank you for publicising Jasna’s story. #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
@Exposing_UKIP Surely not! That sounds like an awfully fascist thing to do. #JusticeForJasna
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Exposing UKIP ‏@Exposing_UKIP Nov 6
RT @DevilLucifer29: “What more lies.” > Unlike most #UKIP rubbish, our info is sourced and documented. #JusticeForJasna
0 replies 1 retweet 1 favorite

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John O’Connell ‏@jdpoc Nov 6
No #UKIP on #BBCQT tonight ? Looks like we’ll have to raise the issue of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk links ourselves, then. #JusticeForJasna
0 replies 10 retweets 5 favorites

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Issy Respect Party ‏@IsyRespectParty Nov 5
http://leejasper.blogspot.co.uk/ #JusticeForJasna I’m ex Ukip and I know how they work, I here where Jasna is coming from. @LeeJasper @Exposing_UKIP
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Michael Shrimpton Faces Jail For Bomb Hoax

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Sometime speaker for Ukip & conspiracy theorist Michael Shrimpton Faces Jail For Bomb Hoax and fantasy of DVD sinking the Kursk & planning a nuclear bomb at 2012 Olympics!!!

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having first met Michael around 15 years ago when he was the speaker at a Ukip supporters meeting I attended and having worked with him in the Ukip metric martyrs case, where he defended Steve Thoburn and having had him as a house guest for over a month on one occasion I have little doubt that he needs help rather than punishment and I hope he gets it.
I believe that if he receives a prison sentence it could make his obvious problems even more acute.
Good luck to Michael on the 6-Feb-2015 when he comes up for sentencing as I do not believe that Michael meant any harm and his over active imagination and general detachment from reality has been steadily building towards this problem over many years.
Amusing as Michael can be as a speaker his theories have made him a figure of fun and ridicule in the main though he has something of a cult following amongst some of the more gullible conspiracy theorists as with his risible theories regarding the McCann  case!

Fantasist barrister faces jail for sparking security scare with claim that German spies were planning ’24-style’ nuclear attack on the Queen at London Olympics

  • Michael Shrimpton, 57, called Parliament over nuclear threat in April 2012
  • Said German spies had weapon in London and were going to attack Queen
  • Is facing jail after being found guilty of communicating false information
  • But sentencing delayed until next year while psychiatric test carried out 
Michael Shrimpton, 57, is facing jail after being found guilty of phoning Parliament in April 2012 to say the Queen was the target of a nuclear attack

Michael Shrimpton, 57, is facing jail after being found guilty of phoning Parliament in April 2012 to say the Queen was the target of a nuclear attack

A barrister who claimed that German spies were plotting to attack the Queen with a nuclear weapon at the London Olympics has been found guilty of communicating false information.

Michael Shrimpton, 57, called a close colleague of former Defence Secretary Philip Hammond in April 2012 to say that a nuclear warhead had been stashed in an east London hospital and was going to be used to attack either the Queen, the Olympic Stadium, or the opening ceremony.

He also claimed his house in Wendover, Buckinghamshire, was a ‘bona fide’ HQ for an international intelligence network – but he is today facing jail after being found guilty at Southwark Crown Court.

A jury of nine men and three women found Shrimpton guilty of two counts of communicating false information after more than six hours of deliberation, with majority 11-1 verdicts.

Sentencing will take place in February of next year after Judge Alistair McCreath QC ordered that Shrimpton be sent for psychiatric evaluation.

Judge McCreath said: ‘The sentence that I pass upon you will have to reflect that gravity of the conduct of which you have been convicted.

‘But if, as may be the case, there is some underlying reason for it, then it seems to me important that I be informed of that underlying reason and I am therefore minded to order that you undergo psychiatric examination.’

Shrimpton, author of ‘Spyhunter: The Secret History of German Intelligence’, replied he had ‘no objection’ to the order.

In April 2012, just as preparations for the London Olympics were entering their final phase, Shrimpton contacted Barry Burton, the principal private secretary to Philip Hammond.

He told Mr Burton that spies from ‘a covert and rather sinister’ Germany agency had sabotaged Russian submarine Kursk, which sank in 2000, and stole four nuclear warheads.

The lawyer boasted of ‘credible European sources’, name-dropped members of parliament, and said intelligence had been blocked through official channels because the Germans had infiltrated MI5, MI6 and GCHQ.

During the 20-minute call Shrimpton said he had gathered intelligence from his own network of volunteers that one warhead was being stored in a hospital in London to avoid detection.

Mr Burton suspected that the call had been a hoax, but was forced to pass the information over to the Olympic security team and the police.

The following day Shrimpton phoned the Aylesbury Conservative Association and asked to speak with MP David Lidington about the threat, which he described as being in the style of American TV show ’24’.

The call was reported to a colleague at Parliament, and Shrimpton was arrested the same day.

Shrimpton called a close colleague of then Defence Secretary Philip Hammond to say German spies had looted four nuclear warheads from a sunken Russia sub and were hiding one in London for the attack

Shrimpton called a close colleague of then Defence Secretary Philip Hammond to say German spies had looted four nuclear warheads from a sunken Russia sub and were hiding one in London for the attack

Shrimpton claimed his arrest was a ‘colossal cock-up’, blamed the Germans and demanded a ‘nice lunch with MI5’.

In interview at Aylesbury police station he boasted he was a ‘national security specialist’ with hundreds of intelligence contacts who acted as a back channel between governments.

Representing himself at his two-week trial, he told jurors he worked on the investigation into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance and the case of Chilean dictator General Augusto Pinochet.

He read extracts from his address book with a number of ‘contacts’ in the CIA, FBI, MI6, the Pentagon, Chinese intelligence and Parliament.

Shrimpton said: ‘I admit that the stuff I deal with is bound to sound strange, high falutin, incredible and fantastic.It’s my world, welcome to my world.’

Shrimpton claimed he has rubbed shoulders with royalty, former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and listed a number of famous names including Richard Branson and Steven Forbes.

Giving evidence he boasted of meeting Prince Philip twice in a social context and claimed to have to Royal’s phone number.

Shrimpton said the information had been blocked through official channels because the Germans had infiltrated MI5, MI6, and GCHQ (pictured, the Queen at the London 2012 opening ceremony)

Shrimpton said the information had been blocked through official channels because the Germans had infiltrated MI5, MI6, and GCHQ (pictured, the Queen at the London 2012 opening ceremony)

Among his other claims were that he was consulted by the makers of TV show Spooks on his specialist knowledge, that the CIA had allowed him to enter the U.S. carrying a weapon, and that the LA Sheriff’s Department had discussed terror attacks with him over a cup of coffee.

He also insisted he has the authority to issue a Defence Advisory Notice on behalf of the government to stop British media from publishing stories that could compromise national security.

He said he wanted to prevent the News of the World from blowing his intelligence, and added they were ‘very cooperative’.

Shrimpton told jurors that there had been an assassination attempt against him by the Chinese authorities who wanted to ‘whack’ him. 

In response, prosecutor Alan Blake said: ‘The information was extraordinary and dramatic, in essence Mr Shrimpton announced that a nuclear weapon stolen from the sunken Russian submarine the Kursk a number of years ago, that such a nuclear weapon had been smuggled into the UK and was being stored in a London hospital in preparation to be used during the Olympic games.

‘With the benefit of hindsight the information may seem outlandish, perhaps even laughable.

‘Before being too dismissive do recall the position in 2012 when those calls were made.’

Sitting at Southwark Crown Court, Judge Alistair McCreath QC delayed sentencing for Shrimpton until February next year while the lawyer has psychiatric tests

Sitting at Southwark Crown Court, Judge Alistair McCreath QC delayed sentencing for Shrimpton until February next year while the lawyer has psychiatric tests

At that stage, surface to air missiles had just been installed on the tops of a number of blocks of flats and it was feared terrorists could infiltrate G4S staff after the security company began frantically hiring after announcing a staff shortage, the court heard.

Mr Blake said Shrimpton was a ‘respected professional man’ who has ‘superficial plausibility’.

He added: ‘It is the prosecution’s case that the information provided by Mr Shrimpton was false and that when he communicated those threats he didn’t honestly or genuinely believe that they were true or rather knew or believed that they were false.’

Shrimpton was granted conditional bail ahead of sentencing on February 6

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>GP – RN: EU exit: the Paterson speech

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/11/2014

&gt;GP – RN: EU exit: the Paterson speech

 

Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins (Greg_L-W)
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“To achieve One World Government it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism,
their loyalty to family, traditions and national identification.”
Brock Chisholm, when director of UN World Health Organisation
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Hi,

EUReferendum

Monday 24 November 2014

000a Times-024 Paterson.jpg

The actual speech text is here, delivered at 11am this moning. It is reviewed in The Times, in the Telegraph, the BBC, the New Statesman and elsewhere (140 reports and counting).

The essence of speech is that, instead of pussy-footing around, Cameron should cut to the chase and commit to invoking Article 50 the moment a Conservative government takes office after the election. With an electoral mandate, there is no need for a referendum.

Negotiations on a exit settlement should then proceed, using the “Norway option” as the base, involving joining EFTA and adopting the EEA agreement. Additionally, the entire EU body of law should be repatriated, to ensure legislative continuity, allowing for selective repeal and amendment as appropriate and necessary.

The loss of influence in leaving the EU is more than made up for by the restoration of our standing in international organisations such as Codex, UNECE, OECD, and many others, where we would be negotiating in our own right, determining standards which, under WTO rules, the EU is obliged to adopt.

In this, there would be no “fax democracy” as such. We would be sending laws down to Brussels – not the other way around.

The issue of “freedom of movement” is dealt with by dropping out of the ECHR and the EU treaties, so that we would only be obliged to grant freedom to workers, and not their dependents unless we chose to do so – plus restoring the ability to deport illegal immigrants.

Also, there would be continued measures to address “push” and “pull” factors, making the UK unattractive for unskilled migrants seeking low-paid work

However, Paterson reminds us that it took 40 years to progress to this stage of integration and we are not going to resolve all the issues in one stage. For the longer term, therefore, he argues that we would need to progress from the EEA to ensure a genuine Europe-wide Single Market, working on a truly intergovernmental basis.

One possible alternative, he suggests, is to strengthen the regional UNECE, so that it can administer the Single Market as an economic project rather than a political construct. Using that body, we would be able to negotiating directly across the board, cutting out the EU as the middle man, and substantially enhance the transparency of the system.

With a more durable European solution in place, we would be better able to promote our economic interests and we would also be able to take a lead in revitalising international trade. Free from the EU, says Paterson, we would have real influence on shaping the global regulatory models where true power lies.

The UK would have a key role in building transparency with enormous benefits to tackling organised crime, such as human trafficking, addressing issues of migration constructively.

In conclusion, Paterson adds, the Eurozone has already embarked upon a path that we can never follow. We are simply recognising that reality. We must either be fully committed to “Le Projet” or we must build an entirely new relationship.

The British people must be allowed to make that decision. Article 50 is the best method of making this happen. By this means we would forge ahead and resume our rightful place as a global leader. With our own independent status, working closely with our many allies, we would massively increase our influence.

As Churchill said, “We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe but not of it. We are linked but not comprised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed”. He was right then and he is right now. Get this message across and the UK has a spectacular future as a flourishing world power.

Richard North

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“The practice of sport is a human right!. Every individual must have the possibility of practicing sport, without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.” –Olympic Charter

There are times when it is reasonable to believe ‘Sport’ is not so much a right but an obligation by diktat!
However boring you may find sport: there are many who derive great vicarious pleasure from watching it – Particularly Women’s Beach Volleyball & Women’s Gymnastics; some even enjoy being a part of a baying mob at football games!

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>GP – RN: EU exit: the Paterson speech

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/11/2014

Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins (Greg_L-W)
At: Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com

“To achieve One World Government it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism,
their loyalty to family, traditions and national identification.”
Brock Chisholm, when director of UN World Health Organisation
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi,

EUReferendum

Monday 24 November 2014

000a Times-024 Paterson.jpg

The actual speech text is here, delivered at 11am this moning. It is reviewed in The Times, in the Telegraph, the BBC, the New Statesman and elsewhere (140 reports and counting).

The essence of speech is that, instead of pussy-footing around, Cameron should cut to the chase and commit to invoking Article 50 the moment a Conservative government takes office after the election. With an electoral mandate, there is no need for a referendum.

Negotiations on a exit settlement should then proceed, using the “Norway option” as the base, involving joining EFTA and adopting the EEA agreement. Additionally, the entire EU body of law should be repatriated, to ensure legislative continuity, allowing for selective repeal and amendment as appropriate and necessary.

The loss of influence in leaving the EU is more than made up for by the restoration of our standing in international organisations such as Codex, UNECE, OECD, and many others, where we would be negotiating in our own right, determining standards which, under WTO rules, the EU is obliged to adopt.

In this, there would be no “fax democracy” as such. We would be sending laws down to Brussels – not the other way around.

The issue of “freedom of movement” is dealt with by dropping out of the ECHR and the EU treaties, so that we would only be obliged to grant freedom to workers, and not their dependents unless we chose to do so – plus restoring the ability to deport illegal immigrants.

Also, there would be continued measures to address “push” and “pull” factors, making the UK unattractive for unskilled migrants seeking low-paid work

However, Paterson reminds us that it took 40 years to progress to this stage of integration and we are not going to resolve all the issues in one stage. For the longer term, therefore, he argues that we would need to progress from the EEA to ensure a genuine Europe-wide Single Market, working on a truly intergovernmental basis.

One possible alternative, he suggests, is to strengthen the regional UNECE, so that it can administer the Single Market as an economic project rather than a political construct. Using that body, we would be able to negotiating directly across the board, cutting out the EU as the middle man, and substantially enhance the transparency of the system.

With a more durable European solution in place, we would be better able to promote our economic interests and we would also be able to take a lead in revitalising international trade. Free from the EU, says Paterson, we would have real influence on shaping the global regulatory models where true power lies.

The UK would have a key role in building transparency with enormous benefits to tackling organised crime, such as human trafficking, addressing issues of migration constructively.

In conclusion, Paterson adds, the Eurozone has already embarked upon a path that we can never follow. We are simply recognising that reality. We must either be fully committed to “Le Projet” or we must build an entirely new relationship.

The British people must be allowed to make that decision. Article 50 is the best method of making this happen. By this means we would forge ahead and resume our rightful place as a global leader. With our own independent status, working closely with our many allies, we would massively increase our influence.

As Churchill said, “We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe but not of it. We are linked but not comprised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed”. He was right then and he is right now. Get this message across and the UK has a spectacular future as a flourishing world power.

Richard North

To view the original of this post CLICK HERE

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
Greg Lance-Watkins

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For detailed analysis of selected items in the news:
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“The practice of sport is a human right!. Every individual must have the possibility of practicing sport, without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.” –Olympic Charter

There are times when it is reasonable to believe ‘Sport’ is not so much a right but an obligation by diktat!
However boring you may find sport: there are many who derive great vicarious pleasure from watching it – Particularly Women’s Beach Volleyball & Women’s Gymnastics; some even enjoy being a part of a baying mob at football games!

PLEASE NOTE:
I never post anonymously on the internet.
For details & declaration of accuracy please see:
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>GP – RN: Rochester: of causes and effects

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/11/2014

From: Greg Lance-Watkins (Greg_L-W)
At: Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com

 

>GP – RN: Rochester: of causes and effects

“The practice of sport is a human right!. Every individual must have the possibility of practicing sport, without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.” –Olympic Charter
There are times when it is reasonable to believe ‘Sport’ is not so much a right but an obligation by diktat!
However boring you may find sport: there are many who derive great vicarious pleasure from watching it – Particularly Women’s Beach Volleyball & Women’s Gymnastics; some even enjoy being a part of a baying mob at football games!

Hi,

EUReferendum

Saturday 22 November 2014

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A weary few days and some miracle-working by North Jr and friends has got us back online (with the forum and other tweaks to follow when we can), after a series of massive DDOS attacks. So focussed and relentless were the attacks that we conclude that they were directed specifically at EUReferendum, with a view to taking us out of circulation.

Against that and the added stress of extremely arduous day jobbing, the election of a second-rate politician seemed very minor. And, in the grander scheme of things, it was indeed a minor event. In six months, it will be distant memory, as indeed will Reckless the Repatriater, who will have faded into the obscurity he justly deserves.

Of current interest, though, is the fallout, which has the Daily Mail reporting that Conservative MPs are calling for David Cameron to toughen his stance on the EU.

The newspaper is asserting that the way to “take the legs from under Farage” is for the prime minister to campaign for an “out” vote. That is an obvious line to take except that it suffers the obvious flaw. Those unwilling to believe Mr Cameron’s promise for a referendum are just as likely to disbelieve any commitment to fight against EU membership.

What might deal a death blow to Farage’s ambitions, however, is the double whammy of explaining to the voting public that his party has no idea of how to manage our departure from the EU (and no capability in that respect) while simultaneously demonstrating that a workable plan does exist and can be implemented quickly and easily, to the very great advantage of the UK.

This, in my view, is what is needed to transform the debate. Having long accepted the need to leave the EU – for any number of reasons – I no longer wish to endure the tedium of the continuous tales of woe on how badly we are treated by the Barons of Brussels.

Rather, I am in the market for some “sunlit uplands”, the very thing Mr Farage and his dysfunctional acolytes have no means of bringing us. His shambolic party is set to deliver the only thing of which Ukip is capable –  its own brand of discordant negativity. It will never achieve anything but chaos and disruption.

In order to defeat Ukip, what the Conservatives need to realise is you don’t fight a negative with a negative. The only thing that cancels out a negative is a positive. All Farage’s party can do is tell us how bad it is inside the EU. The Conservatives need to tell us how good it is on the outside.

That, in fact, is quite difficult to do. Any fool can tell us that we need to leave – very few people can come of with a credible, structured plan for making it happen. And as this is a task quite beyond the capabilities of Ukip, and neither Labour nor the Lib-Dems have any intentions of filling the void, this leaves the field wide open to the Conservatives.

This is why the next few days and weeks are going to be increasingly interesting. Gradually, there is a realisation emerging that the need to get out of the EU is only a tiny part of the equation – the easy bit that even the febrile minds of Ukip supporters can grasp. It is how we get out that matters more. Unless a safe exit can be assured, it is never going to happen.

Once it is evident that the feat can be done, though, it is much more likely that it will then happen. Thus, the realisation that we need an exit plan may be one of the most enduring effects of this period. Knowledgeable commentators will then see the pressure to withdraw as a child of the time. Others will try to link unrelated events, and argue cause and effect.

What we are seeing, though, are effects with common causes. Some have taken the cul-de-sac towards Ukip while the more enlightened are looking for the way to the sunlit uplands. The reasons for those actions are deep-rooted and do not lie in recent events. But the outcome is not to be denied – it was going to happen sooner of later. And even if later, that is better than not at all.

Richard North
22/11/2014

I am inclined to totally agree with this post of Richard’s which concurs with all that I have learned over many years and in very many countries around the world – any fool can knock the status quo and find support amongst the struggling lower middle classes (used to be working class until the invention of Mr. Biro replaced the pick and the shovel of yester year for many!), and also the support of the failed amongst the working classes (those not gainfully employed or who have outbred their capacity for self support!).

 

Indeed Nigel Farage’s clique and its claque have tapped into this very successfully as did Alex Salmond in Scotland, Francisco Franco in Spain, Adolf Hitler in Germany and many others in their respective times and countries.

You will note all made an issue of simplistic denigration of the existing Governance, highlighted problems and built on them without workable remedies and found a sector of the community to blame be that the Jews in Nazi Germany, the bankers for the Labour party and EU or immigrants for Farage’s ill informed supporters.

NONE of the examples I have quoted had any exampes of HOW to move forward being far too rooted in destructive nihilism as they tried to tear down structures that showed how small was their intellectual structure and vision rather than building an intellectual power base that rose above the present situation, showing why the alternative they offered was better and more importantly how to achieve their promised ‘Nirvana’.

Allthough it seems Richard North feels constrained by modesty (not too typical of him 😉 – I note he fails to put forward his methodology for obtaining those sunny uplands) may I therefore suggest all who read this will find a detailed study of >FleXcit< of great value – you will find a link to >FleXcit< in the right sidebar of this web site.

I regret it would seem that in Britain The Tories, divorced as they would seem to be from either the ethics or the patriotism they formwerly represented, are the only party that shows ANY possibility of moving forward all be it haltingly as they recognise increasingly before a referendum AS PROMISE, unlike relative to the New EU Constitution which morphed into the name change to The Lisbon Treaty!

As I started to say – as they start to realise that the EU Treaties are now tablets of stone that can not be viably improved due to the requirement for unanimity of opinion amongst approaching 30 very different regions (formerly Nation States) who are both its vassals and its members! SDome seeking to reduce the subsidies they fund the scam with whilst the majority seek to survive on the malign handouts generated by those self same subsidies.

The EU is like a family with over 20 children where regardless of the needs and incomes of the parents and few viable working members  has surrende3red control of how much pocket money the majority of the least responsible children get is defined by those very children that would benefit – all too like the Labour Party economic illiteracy we saw in the 13 unlucky years of their catastrophic rule, where the Governance was controlled by a collection of criminal scoundrels seeking their own enrichment and aggrandisement all be it by bankrupting the country and undeniable war crimes and crimes against humanity!

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FOR THE RECORD – A STATEMENT OF FACTS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/11/2014

FOR THE RECORD – A STATEMENT OF FACTS

Hi,

FIRSTLY:

EUReferendum

At the moment this web site and others will be publishing all relevant postings from Dr. Richard North’s web site EUreferendum.com as it is currently experiencing a malicious and cowardly criminal Denial Of Service Attack. His web master Peter is currently doing all he can to get and keep the site running.

I will be posting all such posts with the prefix:

>GP-RN
showing it is a GUEST POST by Richard North

You may wish to do likewise when you copy the postings from this site.

IF YOU CAN:
I would appreciate it if you would consider copying all these postings with links back to this web site, on your web site or any you can control or encourage others to help on.

It is important to all of us that efforts are not made to deny free speech in the political arena and to ensure cowards and low lifes in politics are given no quarter when they try to silence opinion and comment even if it is by their critics.

Thank You to Team Junius who although no longer posting have agreed to host Richard North’s posting during this attack and will be copying them from here.

Thanks – any queries call me on 01594 – 528 337
(sorry no calls accepted from >number witheld< and calls are recorded)

TO MOVE ON:
For the record – despite the obfuscation, dissembling and outright lies of those trying to hide the truth about UKIP, as it is – It is of absolutely no consequence how many read this blog or this web site or my Twitter or my postings around the internet and elsewhere, just like UKIP membership numbers are of no consequence just as it is irrelevant how many watch a UKIP video in America, China or even France – it is a matter of the caliber of those who read the entries NOT numbers.
This web site and all its entries are posted as an archive and if ONE person of influence reads it whether media, politician or individual and it leads to cleaning up & professionalising UKIP & giving it some ethical gravitas and consequence thus making it fit for purpose as a party, which British citizens would be proud to join to Leave-The-EU, it has served its purpose.
This blog is an archive available to all and made as accurate as possible, clearly differentiating between my opinions and values and factual reportage of UKIP.
As is clear: Any error of fact is always corrected, if brought to my attention, and comments are always published – for as long as they are compliant with the terms clearly stated as follows:

We welcome comments but reserve the right to moderate & refuse libelous or offensive comments and those we choose to delete when written by unidentifiable individuals hidden in anonymity in a cowardly manner to defame or abuse.

No comment has EVER been barred or deleted, which is genuine & clearly authored by a named & identifiable individual.

You will note many comments made have been commented on and even corrected by the blog owner.

We welcome genuine comments.

With Regard To JUNIUS

From my conversations with Team Junius:

I gather their aims were largely similar to mine, as was their aim to inform and provide an archive of facts in support of UKIP becoming fit for purpose, to lead to Leave-The-EU, which clearly it currently is not, as it tends to represent its own personal ambitions rather than British self determination, values and ethics.

At the moment Junius team have largely stopped addressing UKIP’s problems, in the belief that it is unlikely that UKIP will have any consequential influence on domestic politics after their failure in the local elections of 2013 when out of over 1,700 seats in which they stood candidates a mere 147 were elected and already they are falling by the wayside and or resigning due in part to lack of vetting, lack of professionalism and in some cases over racism, inappropriate behaviour and convictions for theft etc.

UKIP’s achievements are so clearly the product of a single individual that Junius has stood back from their role exposing UKIP’s ineptitude and dishonesty as unfit for purpose as to continue putting their own jobs at risk is no longer of sufficient consequence in the light of UKIP’s failure to obtain MPs, Police Crime Commissioners, Mayors or any other role of any gravitas or significance in domestic politics in 20 years.

Team Junius, I am told, will possibly re-enter the position of political commentary if the situation alters and UKIP becomes of greater relevance in UK domestic policy rather than self serving also rans!

Although I have heard from members of Team Junius they and others have passed on the UKIP lies that it is claimed that actions and threats of prosecution by UKIP forced Junius to cease posting.

I can assure readers that the UKIP spin is a pack of lies particularly as they have absolutely no idea who the members of Team Junius are nor are UKIP able to identify a single solitary member of the team. It is therefore abundantly clear that no member of the team has in any way been threatened with prosecution, nor contacted by anyone threatening to prosecute nor has any member EVER been cautioned by any lawyer or the police with regard to their publication of facts and views they publish about UKIP and its clique or claque or even members or policy.

May I also add that the ONLY three threats I have EVER received were founded first on the inept misunderstanding of the law by Michael Zucherman when I used the title ‘catterpillars & butterflies thereby bringing into derision the subsequent utilisation of the imagery used by UKIP subsequently.

The second instance was based on lies presented by Mark Croucher, Clive Page & Paul Nuttall for UKIP, in an attempt to bankrupt me to shut down the flow of facts about UKIP which I present. They lost their case in Court and to date have failed to act honourably and pay the some £13,000 they owe me.

The third instance was based on a pack of lies presented by Gerard Batten regarding which the police were misguidedly duped into interviewing me under caution for some 3 hours. The police decision was there was absolutely no case to answer and that I had not acted in any breech of the law and Gerard Batten was shown to have lied to try to build a case.

Let us be certain – I can unequivocally state that any claim by UKIP that they have intimidated those who publish under the name Junius into giving up is untrue and like so many other stories that emanate from UKIP and its placemen is just a pack of lies.

For more FACTS regarding the accuracy of this site and my postings elsewhere read CLICK HERE
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I NEVER post in cowardly anonymity, nor obfuscate my identity as I believe it is an ethical matter of integrity to stand by ones comments. If unsure or deliberately misleading one should NOT demean oneself by dishonesty hiding one’s identity as a coward or a traitor would.

For the record I have NEVER had personal aspirations politically, nor have I ever stood for office; further I have NEVER joined or been a member or been funded by any political party, faction or similar organisation.

I trust these facts help clarify details for the ill informed and the outright liars who seek to defame me, my blogs, postings and web sites.

Regards,

Greg_L-W.

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GP-RN: UKIP: Rochester ruminations

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 21/11/2014

GP-RN: UKIP: Rochester ruminations

From: Greg Lance-Watkins (Greg_L-W)
At: Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com

“The practice of sport is a human right!. Every individual must have the possibility of practicing sport, without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.” –Olympic Charter

There are times when it is reasonable to believe ‘Sport’ is not so much a right but an obligation by diktat!
However boring you may find sport: there are many who derive great vicarious pleasure from watching it – Particularly Women’s Beach Volleyball & Women’s Gymnastics; some even enjoy being a part of a baying mob at football games!

Hi,
EUReferendum

Friday 21 November 2014

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I think the political quote of the week comes from the anonymous pundit who reported of Rochester and Strood: “Labour suffer crushing defeat by losing safe Conservative seat to Ukip”. But he only just caps Mr Eugenides, who tweets: “Stupid woman tweets photo of white van and flags, resigns. Stupid man calls for compulsory repatriation of legal EU residents, is elected”.

Turnout is reported at 50.67 percent, against 51.13 percent at Clacton. Reckless thus came in with 16,867 votes, representing 22.5 percent of the electorate – one in five of the voting public. This is significantly down on Clacton where Carswell took 30.5 percent of the popular vote. We are seeing  yet another failure of the Angry Party to set the election on fire.

That Ukip was going to win, though, has not been in doubt for some time, which means “death camp” Reckless the Repatriater is briefly returned as MP – albeit the indications are that the margin will not be as great as some expect.

His tenure will perhaps last only until the general election. But his move to Ukip will bring no tears from Peter Oborne. He describes the Repatriater as “a brutish and low-grade specimen who ought not have been permitted to stand in the Conservative interest”. His defection to Ukip nearly two months ago, Oborne adds, “reflected well on David Cameron’s Conservative Party, making it a better place”.

Interestingly, Reckless will be addressing the Bruges Group annual conference in London on Saturday. He was invited while he was still a Conservative MP and, if he turns up, will be able to put his views on his change of heart to a discerning audience.

By coincidence, this will be followed on the Monday by Owen Paterson, who is planning a major speech on the EU. Oborne expects Mr Paterson “to develop the argument that Britain’s future lies outside Europe”, and that may well be the case.

If Mr Paterson goes further and outlines details of how we should go about leaving the EU, he will be ramping up the pressure on UKIP which, after 20 years of existence, is still unable to deliver a coherent (or any) EU exit plan.

And, trailing in the wake of the Guardian, which led the fray in noting the great UKIP policy vacuum, we now see the Telegraph picking up the same thread. “The party can no longer get away with simply behaving like the outsiders of British politics”, the paper says, “free to dish out criticism but outraged when it is directed towards them”. It adds: “Over the next few months, their policies on every issue should be subjected to the closest possible scrutiny”.

This is an interesting observation. We have been known to remark the Ukip supporters, uniquely, seem to believe that their party should be immune from criticism. Now, the Telegraph lends its way to a counter view.

Meanwhile, we are being regaled with rumours of additional Conservative MPs deserting to the policy-free UKIP, maybe attracted by the relief of not having to remember what your party’s policies actually are.

However, we are now past the six month cut-off, which means there will be no more by-elections this side of the general. Any MPs who do jump ship and follow the Carswell-Reckless model in resigning their seats are likely to be out in the cold until May – or even longer – reduced to burning their rosettes.

At least, now, we are spared the sight of prancing politicians and prattling pundits giving us the benefit of their ignorance. Instead, we can revel in Mr Kelner’s claim that other parties haven’t a clue how to beat Ukip – until Monday, that is, when we may get an illustration of how policy trumps vacuum.

FORUM THREAD

Regards,
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