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#0704* – UKIP Ballot Sheet for London Ass. + Candidates

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/12/2011

#0704* – UKIP Ballot Sheet for London Ass. + Candidates
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UKIP seem all set to run their latest rather crass internal election.

I regret to say that the choices are as ever desperately low grade here they are and lets face it with people like the liar Mick McTrough on the list it shows how desperate UKIP are

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#0701* – OF/2011/10/17 OLAF Investigation is interesting for UKIP!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/11/2011

#0701* – OF/2011/10/17 OLAF Investigation is interesting for UKIP!
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OF/2011/10/17 OLAF Investigation 
is interesting for UKIP!

Just one of the many UKIP has seen its leadership embroilled in demeaning the party with their antics, corruption and dishonesty!

They wonder why they have so very few elected offices and so very little respect from the electorate!

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I gather this investigation involves false accounting, fraud, racism, nepotism & abuse!

I gather this OLAF investigation #OF/2011/10/17 will prove of considerable interest to UKIP, OLAF are reticent regarding details but it adds to the investigations by OLAF that have led to guilty verdicts repayments, police investigations, courts and even prison for abuse of the public purse.

The abject failure of leadership of any recognised caliber in UKIP is apparent in their consistent and abysmal failure to get elected or anywhere near in domestic elections or be taken seriously as representatives of the people.

The escalating levels of hysterical abuse of any critic by members of their leadership & parasites orchestrated in seried ranks of cowards and bullies displaying how UKIP may fantasise as to how to behave whilst frequently too ashamed to even put their names and identities to their cowardly behaviour and I even noted the obsession of one NEC member when clearing my automated spam filter, where Mick McGough had in his unprofessional and demeaning admission of failure and shame sent me well over 1,000 spammed messages – no doubt in some sick sad sexual masochism  – in the realisation they would never be read! Or perhaps to impress his paymasters!
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#0671* – UKIP Demeaned by Its Leadership, its claque & its Alies

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/10/2011

#0671* – UKIP Demeaned by Its Leadership, its claque & its Alies

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I have ALWAYS questioned UKIP’s inept leadership – it has most clearly been based upon a small iner clique of people seeking self enrichment and agrandisement surrounded by a claque of vicious and often clandestine fools, in the belief they might benefit from some kind of ‘Buggin’s Turn’.

It is a danger of the inept and incompetent in leadership that they either fall fast and far as soon as decent folk have realised their unpleasant characteristics or they have gathered around them a sufficient claque to hold their position – as did Blair and clearly as have UKIP’s leadership.

It is remarkable to note the similarity between Blair and UKIP’s present leader Nigel Farage – both held in position, for lack of competent challengers having performed a Lady Macbeth having cut the throat of every possible Duncan who accepted their hospitality or arrived at their castle.

The similarities do not end there as both were inept as leaders without the basic Officer Qualities required – little more than showmen who for a while looked good on TV and had a winning way about them. Both gathered around them as their protection claque life’s failures and perverts with no other home or place to go – all seeking crumbs of comfort or cushy jobs, men and women of absolutely no merit and if they displayed any ability soon getting their throats cut by the claque who felt their position challenged.

Both individuals clearly and totally lacked judgement in selecting their allies and associates.

In Blair’s case he became the puppet of the corrupt and financially self serving Bush Regime and friendly with the morally incontinent Bill Clinton and his sordid pushy flesh creeping wife.

He appointed an utter economic illiterate Gordon Brown in a mutial involvement of blackmail based upon their personal perversions – having consorted with the most odious of modern day perverts the crooked and duplicitous Peter Manderlson and other clearly untrustworthy self seekimng men of power and zero morality like Maxwell, Robinson, Irving and the like with no shortage of dangerous and untrustworthy supporters and courtiers like Blunkett, Straw, and in the followers league to be rewarded the likes of Flint, Hewitt, Hain, Harman, Dromey and the like.

I must say all supertbly managed by the ‘Gaulleiter’ John Presscot and the structure put in place and managed it would seem through Julia Middleton’s Common Purpose.

Farage has attempted the same but with predictably less success – He is not nor has he ever been backed by The Communistss but there is no doubt he is hugely welcome by The EU who turn a blind eye to his apparent financial corruption and his amorality and lack of understanding of any kind of ethics. He has provided The EU with a visible screen of democracy and howmany times have we heard Farage cited as the proof The EU is democratic or he could not perform his schoolboy stunts, crass PR, inept press office, nor to be fair deliver his often excellent speeches in The EU Parliament (which no one hears or listens to!).

As for selecting friends and personal judgement it is of little merit to list his stupidities on a person by person basis be it the common thief and trollop Annabelle Fuller, the creepy pervert Gawain Towler, the odious and idiotic Douglas Denny or Mick McGough with their serial lies and fantasies or the failed press officer, failed publican, failed fixer and utterly corrupt low life Mark Croucher.

Consider the larger scale when it comes to judgement – Why did UKIP Leadership rig its selection to ensure more useless cronies topped their MEP lists – particularly in The Eastern EU Region of the UK. Why did they import the liar, cheat and crooked Spanish, Argentinian, Danish Marta Andreasen when so many others had rejected her (wisely).

Why did UKIP leadership risk splitting their party by allegiance with the extremists, the racists, the xenophobes, the anti homosexual, the anti Jewish, the holocaust deniers and the violent gutter sweepings of EU politics to grant credance to The EU insistence on Pan EU groupings by forming The EFD to represent UKIP members and the interests of British citizens of the UKIP electorate?

For considerably more information on The EFD CLICK HERE

You will also have been aware of the efforts to support The True Finns and to derive credibility from this odious Finnish Political Group.

Just as UKIP Leadership aided the Government and The EU by their total absence and complete lack of campaign or even visible effort during the imposition of The EU’s new constitution finally enacted as The Lisbon Treaty – we note they have provided very little background on their new EU pals The True Finns – though Haider’s Party in Holland was UKIP’s last failure of judgement as it seems they have spurned association with UKIP in the extremist EFD Group!

Perhaps some information regarding True Finns might help members – who recently voted 2 to 1 against their leaders and forming Pan EU Political Party Groups!

I hope UKIP members find the following of interest and enlightening as to their leadership’s new chums.

Wednesday, 28 September 2011

Study: True Finns condone violence

According to an international study into extremist groups, some True Finn members condone political violence. This is part of a Europe-wide study on the rise of populist sentiment and seems to be a far-reaching phenomenon. The study mentions specifically internet sites which condone hatred and promote violence, without mention of blogger and popular racist Jussi Halla-aho’s webforum Homma. Shockingly, the study was conducted after the Oslo massacre in which a radical racist targeted leftist politicians, leaving 77 dead.
Matti Putkonen, rapist, violent criminal, True Finn campaign manager
The study was swiftly condemned by the True Finns’ campaign manager, Matti Putkonen. Putkonen is of course remembered as a violent criminal, having been convicted of aggravated rape to an eight-month custodial sentence. He also had to pay a €10,000 fine, presumably to cover medical harm. Speaking at a live radio show, Putkonen called for the female chief of staff at the Ministry of Interior who published the study to resign, and said that the True Finn party does not condone violence. Thankfully, things did not escalate further this time as mr Putkonen was safely at the other end of the telephone line.

Matti Putkonen, rapist and habitual political opportunist is probably the best example of the True Finn hypocrisy when it comes to their value base. Former member of the Social Democratic party, former media rep for a labour union, Putkonen grabbed at the chance to jump ship just as soon as the polls showed a double-figure rise in support for the True Finn party. In a civilised society he would be on some kind of a registry already, and barred from holding a political office.

Thursday, 22 September 2011

James Hirvisaari: No Viet Cong ever called me Persu

True Finn first term MP and a prominent signer of Jussi Halla-aho’s racist election manifesto, James Hirvisaari has shocked but not surprised people with his recent blog post. James Hirvisaari says it is equally bad to call someone as “persu” (a name for the True Finn party, derived from the Finnish name PerusSuomalaiset) as it is to call someone a nigger or a yid. He also proceeds to call all reporters vultures and scavengers, and goes on to state that the media is out to get him and all other True Finn speakers of truth. On his blog. Which is hosted on the server of the newspaper Uusi Suomi.

persu party member James “persu” Hirvisaari

MP Hirvisaari’s angry blog post comes right after the Finnish broadcaster YLE’s “Hate Night Special” where they discussed hate speech. Evidently James Hirvisaari thinks it terribly unfair to only focus on the party which keeps spouting racist crap, when the topic of discussion is racist crap being spouted by politicians. The comments also come after the setting out of internal True Finn party guidelines on banned words. The guidelines contain a list of words to avoid, some of which James Hirvisaari chose to use in his blog post.

The True Finn parliamentary group leader, and one of the few two-term True Finn MPs Pirkko Ruohonen-Lerner was reportedly ‘frustrated’ over Hirvisaari’s remarks. She goes on to state there are vastly more important things to focus on, such as increased regional taxes. There is of course support for James Hirvisaari among fellow MPs. Having recently been expelled from the True Finn parliamentary group for calling for a military coup in Athens, MP Jussi Halla-aho compared the ongoing hate speech discussion to a “rise of a totalitarian, orwellian atmosphere in Finland.” The irony remains duly lost on all his followers.

Regardless of what your political outlook might be, comparing someone using a word you don’t like for your party to a racial slur is extraordinarily thin-skinned. Even more so when the vast majority of your own supporters think it a neutral term, if somewhat informal. Moreover the timing of the whole thing just shows an amazing degree of political insensitivity, coming just days after MP Halla-aho was temporarily expelled from the party over a Facebook post. It could of course be a part of a brilliant master plan by the Halla-ahonist fringe of the True Finn party, in which case all the co-signers of the racist election manifesto, James Hirvisaari, Olli Immonen and Juha Eerola, take turns to say racist stuff to get expelled. Brilliant is probably the wrong word to use though, it’s all degrees of stupidity with these people.

Thursday, 15 September 2011

Jussi Halla-aho expelled from True Finns

According to Uusi Suomi, leader of the True Finn party Timo Soini has proposed expelling blogger and popular racist Jussi Halla-aho from the party. This came after Jussi Halla-aho proposed replacing the Greek government with a military junta on his Facebook page. Here’s a translation of the relevant post:

Simple fact is that democracy (=elections) prevents any political government to take such action as to be really “effective” in solving the bankrupt Greek economy problem. Right now what is needed is a military junta that could use tanks to force the strikers and rioters into submission.

Jussi Halla-aho later tried to play his post off as some kind of a joke, but it was too late. True Finn parliamentary group leader, Pirkko Ruohonen-Lerner confirmed that expelling Jussi Halla-aho as a “temporary measure” is “very likely.” There has been speculation among followers of Finnish politics that this has to do with internal strife in the True Finn party, between Timo Soini’s eurosceptic loonies and Jussi Halla-aho’s racist loonies. Timo Soini, numerous as his other faults may be, is not actually racist and this move to disassociate his party from the most strident voice in the racist fringe was a long time coming.

Soon-to-become-irrelevant MP Jussi Halla-aho

It is generally assumed, that Jussi Halla-aho will be followed by his loyal cadre from radical racist Suomen Sisu. James Hirvisaari, Olli Immonen and Juha Eerola are all members of the movement, and will probably form a separate racist parliamentary group with their dear leader. This will spell the end of the extreme racist fringe playing any potentially major part in Finnish politics, so it’s a cause for great celebration! I have a feeling things actually took a turn for the better today.

UPDATE 14:28: Jussi Halla-aho’s expulsion from the True Finn parliamentary group was just confirmed in an unanimous decision. He is currently expelled for two weeks. This will probably not affect the bulk of his actual work in the parliament much, but he is unable to attend meetings of the True Finn parliamentary group.

Wednesday, 14 September 2011

True Finn MP plays the Nazi card

You all might remember the quote “Whenever I hear the word culture, I reach for my gun.” It’s frequently misattributed to Hermann Goering, but it actually comes from a pro-nazi play called Schlageter. People usually quote this to point out the brutality and violence of the national socialist regime, well normal people do that. True Finn MP Jussi Niinistö whom I’ve blogged about before apparently uses the phrase completely without irony.

Jussi Niinistö, you can’t see his hands but they’re reaching for his gun


Helsingin Sanomat reported
that in a parliamentary session this Tuesday, Jussi Niinistö said he is a strong proponent of expanded presidential powers, and that “whenever I hear the word parliamentarism, I reach for my gun”. Let’s just re-iterate that this quote is frequently raised as an example of the despicable brutality of the nazi regime, it’s certainly not a phrase that is in common use in Finland and would probably be in itself enough to send you to prison in Germany. Needless to say, this caused quite a bit of a scene in the session, and probably will haunt mr Niinistö for months to come.

My thanks to my obviously well informed source and if you want to read more of True Finn – also written by the same blogger CLICK HERE
You may also find Junius informative on this issue CLICK HERE 
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#0645* – UKIP LEADERSHIP seems UTTERLY IRRESPONSIBLE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/09/2011

#0645* – UKIP LEADERSHIP seems UTTERLY IRRESPONSIBLE

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UKIP LEADERSHIP seems UTTERLY IRRESPONSIBLE!

Perhaps someone can explain why they squandered more than £19,000 to achieve practically NOTHING!

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Election expenses: UUP binge, SDLP go on crash diet, whilst UKIP spend the day at the races

Thu 1 September 2011, 2:38pm

UTV has some interesting figures from the Electoral Commission, which is worth digging through. Most noteable is the major cut back in spend by the SDLP. From the UTV report:

£38,000 on their 14 seats, despite also losing two from the previous election, in which the party spent more than £200,000 – the biggest campaign spend in the 2007 poll, where each seat cost almost £13,000.

I hate to say it, but it showed. Although many of the problems the party faced are to do with organisation, rather than money. But it also prompts the question is why was there such a drastic cut?

Others:

Sinn Fein, £51,851
DUP, £84,000
UUP, £96,000 (£21k more than 2007)
Alliance, £29,000
Green Party, £5,800
TUV, £6,413

I’d be slightly more generous towards the UUP. They spent a lot, and probably did not get all the bang they needed for their hard earned buck. But they were standing in something of a hole this time out (their Council results actually show important signs of residual health). In the event, 16 is not as bad as many predicted, nor as bad as it could have been.

It’s worth too noting that the UKIP spent a whopping £18,176 on Henry Reilly, their popular local candidate in South Down who did well in his home patch of Kilkeel but was left flat when it came to transfers from other parts of the constituency.

Updated with some graphs

Chart of NI party spend per seat won in May 2011 Assembly elections:

Graph of NI party spend per seat won in May 2011 Assembly elections

Chart showing spend apportioned to the number of seats each party won and not won (as well as the absolute number of seats won and not won):

Chart showing spend apportioned to the number of seats each party won and lost (as well as the absolute number of seats won and not won)

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#0635* – Good Editing Provides an EXCELLENT FARAGE PARTY VIDEO

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/08/2011

#0635* – Good Editing Provides an EXCELLENT FARAGE PARTY VIDEO

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~Good Editing Provides another EXCELLENT FARAGE PARTY VIDEO!
What a pity UKIP makes itself look like a one man band for lack of LEADERSHIP!

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Yet another excellent video by Nigel Farage which 5 month later has only been clicked on 55,543 times and at least 10 of those were me checking figures!

What a tragedy that UKIP without competent leadership has so totally failed to have its message heard with no vision, no strategy & no training they are sadly destined to continue to be irrelevant – merely a fig leaf of democracy in a collapsing centralised dictatorship.

UKIP must find a leader of competence to exploit Farage’s performances.

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#0622* – Pure Opportunistic Stupidity of a Self Serving Idiot!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/08/2011

#0622* – Pure Opportunistic Stupidity of a Self Serving Idiot!

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~Pure Opportunistic Stupidity of a Self Serving Idiot!

Let us give thanks that incompetent and venal as our Political class in the main are – Few are as stupid & ill informed, inexperienced and ill advised as this!!

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we can be very glad of one thing – this idiot has absolutely no credibility except amongst his paid praise singers and those seeking a place alongside him at the troughs on the gravy train!

I have read or listened to 100s of Farage’s speeches and posturings but what a relief that he has absolutely no authority beyond his little pile of sycophants.

This video is an absolutely classic example of what not to do and is utterly irresponsible on numerous counts – populist politics of the ignorant is tantamount to pouring petrol on a fire – he has clearly either failed totally to understand the issues or he has so little morality that he is playing to the gallery for personal gain – Either is an act of utter irresponsibility and ethically repugnant.

I believe the comments he makes are out of imaturity, insecurity and ignorance and rather hope that unlike Ken Livingstone he is not acting in self serving self interested campaign mode!

This is not so very far from the EFD suggestion that North African migrants should be shot or that Anders Breivik had some good ideas and was only defending EUropean civilisation – but let us not forget The EFD are UKIP’s partners and Farage is a leader of The EFD – yet another good reason for leaving the EU!

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#0616* – Clarifying Some Issues & Questions Asked

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/08/2011

#0616* – Clarifying Some Issues & Questions Asked

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~Clarifying Some Issues Regarding UKIP & Answering Some Questions Asked!

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Firstly some clarification:

Trevor Colman MEP: 
has resigned from The EFD and rejected the leadership of Nigel Farage MEP EFD Leader. 

He is currently actively campaigning against membership of The EU, actively campaigning for a Petition for a Referendum and working in support of Nikki Sinclaire’s initiative, as shown in The Sun advert yesterday see: CLICK HERE

He has been actively campaigning against The EU’s efforts to form Pan EU Political Parties to destroy Patriotic National Parties and is on record stating that if UKIP votes for membership of a PEPP he will personally resign from UKIP and sit as an Independent MEP.

Mike Nattrass MEP:   

He has resigned from The EFD and rejected the leadership of Nigel Farage MEP EFD Leader. He is currently actively campaigning against membership of The EU, actively campaigning for a Petition for a Referendum and working in support of Nikki Sinclaire’s initiative, as shown in The Sun advert yesterday see: CLICK HERE

He has been actively campaigning against HS2 rail line with Nikki Sinclaire and also with Nikki Sinclaire has campaigned for UK Farmers on the issue of Battery Hens and other issues which subsequently the NFU MEP Stuart Agnew tried to get involved in. Agnew however undermined his position by his blatant fraud against the tax payers and his unlawful money laundering and is still under investigation by OLAF we understand.

 
I presume like last year he has repaired to his villa in portugal some time ago and is likely to remain there until the EU reconvenes in mid September – whether like last year he will then take a protracted holiday in The Phillipines I know not (You may recall he tried to blame The Sunday Times for his failure to gain leadership of UKIP, when it was clear The Times article may have harmed him as it published the facts regarding his investigation by OLAF at the time, but that he was still on holiday for part of the election campaign was unarguably consequential in his failure.)

Marta Andreasen: 
A fraud and a liar who presents herself as a whistle blower and a past Chief Accountant of The EU – she is neither and never was see the Judgement against her showing her invented ‘back story’ to be a pack of 1/2 truths and outright lies CLICK HERE

Her election to MEP was based upon dishonesty and fraud and founded on lies in which Nigel Farage, and his squalid group of leadership parasites colluded.

Eventually the worm turned! Marta Andreasen wanting control of her 400 budget money and with a view to getting herself re-elected by any means (as is her wont) rounded on Nigel Farage calling for his resignation and highlighting how abysmally UKIP had done under his incompetent leadership. 

It was announced and made clear in a series of very public ‘e’Mails from the crassly un professional leadership  team of UKIP she had the whip withdrawn however Andreasen continues to sit with the extremist EFD Group but now has control of her own £76,000 a year 400 budget and her own staff which formerly were controlled by Farage and was seemingly unaccounted!
 
Nikki Sinclaire:  

has resigned from The EFD and rejected the leadership of Nigel Farage MEP EFD Leader. 
She is currently actively campaigning against membership of The EU, actively campaigning for a Petition for a Referendum and working with her team and others, as shown in The Sun advert yesterday see: CLICK HERE

She has been actively campaigning against HS2 rail line with Mike Nattrass and also has campaigned for UK Farmers on the issue of Battery Hens and other issues which subsequently the NFU MEP Stuart Agnew tried to get involved in. Agnew however undermined his position by his blatant fraud against the tax payers and his unlawful money laundering and is still under investigation by OLAF we understand.

 
Nikki Sinclaire has been outspoken on Human Rights and has taken a strong line against prejudice against certain sectors by use of the corrupt concept of positive descrimination. Her position with regard to equal standards of planning including building in green Belt areas has attracted a great deal of positive publicity particularly with regard to the unlawful developement of Green Belt land in Meridan by itinerants!
 
Since leaving The EFD and being lied about in order to suspend her as an MEP for UKIP – although she has continued her membership her Independent status seperated from the extremist EFD Group and the BNP in blazers chavery of UKIP the media has taken her far more seriously and she is now one of the most quoted UK MEPs and has many TV and press appearances and articles of consequence and gravitas – more in fact than the rest of Farage’s shrinking followers.
 
The lies and descrimination by Farage, Bloom and UKIP found them before the Courts where the Court ruled against them finding them Guilty in Sinclaire’s favour – this led to UKIP being forced to publish an apology to delay finding themselves before The High Court with a substantial damages claim to pay – meanwhile the clearly inept Steve Crowther is trying to come up with some sort of deal to bring Sinclaire back into UKIP as an MEP.
 
The longer Crowther fails the more obvious it becomes that UKIP need Sinclaire and her political experience and her ability to attract consequential publicity far more than she needs the froth and bickering and sordid behaviour of UKIP and its squalid publicity.
Here is a letter sent today to a UKIP supporter who had written to me for clarification of a couple of details on my blogs. I felt perhaps many might be asking ‘themselves’ similar questions and therefore it might help the many who read these blogs. to read the response.


By all means contact me if I can help you to clean-up UKIP and make it a force for good rather than a vicious squabbling and evil force for greed. The BNP in blazers using marginally more sophisticated techniques of bullying and lies to forward their better concealed racism, anti homosexuality, gender inequality and chavery, anti Judaism and self serving self enrichment at the expense of my Country.


My phone Number is 01291 – 62 65 62 and the best time to call is in the evenings up until about 1am. 


I have always said I am happy to be cross examined on any of the details and facts I have presented over the many years that I have supported the principles that were the core of UKIP. I have offered to attend any formal or informal public meeting to address the facts and dispel the lies of those who have set out to protect their lies and self aggrandisement with hysterical and unsustainable fantasies about me (Just look on the internet and track down the weapons grade nutters desperate to keep their scams afloat by trying to defame me! Frankly one need only note their anonimity and obsessions to see straight through their self serving stories!). 

Arrange a time, agree the format and book a venue within a radius of not more than 50 miles of Chepstow as due to health I do have a problem with travelling see: CLICK HERE – Do not forget I have no personal political ambitions – I am self funded and in political terms always have been and I do not nor have I ever sough yours or anyone elses vote. I represent no one other than those who agree with me, my values and aims.

Unlike the leadership of UKIP and their hirelings, lackeys and salaried praise singers.

My open letter:

Hi,
 
if you need infill or back up to any detail on the blog. do feel free to phone me.
 
Or for that matter if you have any information that may help clean-up UKIP to make it electable by informed people of ethics and morality rather than just the ill informed and disenchanted BNP supporters or disenfranchised Tory voters.
 
I have supported UKIP principles for many years now, it is just sad that they have increasingly lost sight of what ‘principles’ are and have become part of the problem with no part in the solution, as they squabble and berate to keep the snouts of their leadership claque enriched with their positions at the troughs on the gravy train feeding off the bribes and largesse of The EU.
 
They are considered an irrelevancy at best and an embarrassing joke by most of the media and have done a huge amount to harm themselves by letting people like Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller, Gawain Towler, Adrian Lithgow and the like act as their press spokesmen as they are largely held in contempt and are low lifes and proven liars as the media probably know better than most!
 
However one feels about UKIP you know as well as the media they have absolutely no one of any political competence and typical was the statement in their manifesto that they supported HS2 and then AFTER the consultation period was over and the public enquiry finished to see UKIP press idiots put out a press release band wagon jumping by Nigel Farage & Paul Nuttall who have been conspicuous by their silence yet now claim to oppose the HS2 is a measure of their risible incompetence.
 
Just as with Nigel Farage’s press release berating EFD members for supporting Andres Breivik and demanding an appology or he would suspend UKIP’s membership of The EFD Group.
 
We all knew this was just noise, he only threatened to suspend UKIP where if he had ANY principles and morality he would have shut the vile little group – and so it was proven – Mario Borghezio was suspended from The EFD and Francesco Speroni made no comment on his support – no apology has been forrthcoming and for all his big words and bluster Farage has done nothing beyond alienate his own better informed members.
 
It is all too clear that even though the EFD Group is steadily disintegrating with barely enough to members to meet their legal requirements there is no chance of risking losing the unaccountable income stream and bribes UKIP MEPs enrich themselves from, particularly Farage as they scrabble to find members to join their racist, xenophobic, pro EU membership, anti Jewish, holocaust denying, anti homosexual Pan EU band of BNP in Blazers that form the extremist EFD Group Farage leads.
 
If you want to study The EFD Group more closely see:
 
To understand the arguments for and against helping The EU to undermine Patriotic National Political Parties and the rules behind the bribes for those who help further the EU aim to form Pan EU Political Parties and Groups see:
 
Do look through the links in the right Sidebar of most of my various blogs and you will find factual information sourced and presented on many of the issues regarding UKIP & its members past and present and the many scams that surround The EU. Also most of the laws that form our Constitution and the unlawful Treaties of The EU – in detail.
 
I trust this helps to clarify some of your questions.
 
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#0603* – UKIP Allies Praise Anders BREIVIK

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/07/2011

#0603* – UKIP Allies Praise Anders BREIVIK

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Geert Wilders and Mario Borghezio
Geert Wilders & Mario Borghezio EFD MEP for Lega Nord 

Italian Member of the European Parliament for the racist Lega Nord party, is not just, as this photo shows, an ally of Dutch xenophobic politician Geert Wilders.

From daily The Times  in South Africa:

26th July 2011 15:51

An ally of Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi  has triggered a storm of protest after he described as “excellent” some of Norwegian terrorism suspect Anders Behring Breivik ’s ideas.
Mario Borghezio, a European Parliament member for the anti-immigration Northern League, said he agreed with Breivik ’s “opposition to Islam and his explicit accusation that Europe has surrendered before putting up a fight against its Islamisation.”
Borghezio told the host of talk radio programme La Zanzara that he did not agree with Breivik”s use of violence, nor with the “Protestant” Norwegian”s “anti-Papist” stance.
But he said that “some of the ideas (of Breivik”s) are good, in certain cases even excellent.”
The Northern League is the junior partner in Berlusconi’s conservative government.
The centre-left opposition called for Borghezio to resign from the European Parliament.
“It is a matter of shame for all of us that a representative of the ruling coalition made apologetic remarks about one of the cruelest acts of terrorism,” said the Democratic Party”s David Sassoli and the Italy of Values party”s Niccolo Rinaldi, both European parliamentarians.

If terrorist Breivik would not have seen so horribly “Protestant”about the pope, one suspects, Borghezio might have called Breivik’s mass killing of Social Democratic children, after all nothing but “cultural Marxist” traitors to White Europe in the twisted Rightist world view of both Breivik and Borghezio, “excellent” as well.

AND JUST STOP & THINK

UKIP’s more dishonest members are quite willing to be shackled to the likes of these scum for money – To quote a much over used phrase from Nigel Farage ‘You couldn’t put a cigarette paper between them’.

Yet we see UKIP’s own scum lined up advocating membership of Pan EU Political Parties to assist The EU undermine National Political Parties and forward The EU agenda of centralisation and governance by unelected bureaucrats and apparatchiks – Aware that the leadership of UKIP could be bought with bribes one starts to realise it has been – just think of The EFD and the utterly corrupt betrayal of UKIP by the vile rump of UKIP leadership and its parasites that can seek to justify their sordid behaviour – seemingly in return for their comfort zone on the EU Gravy Train.
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#0601* – UN-PROFESSIONAL RESPONSES DEMEAN UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/07/2011

#0601* – UN-PROFESSIONAL RESPONSES DEMEAN UKIP

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~UN-PROFESSIONAL RESPONSES DEMEAN UKIP!
Alan Hardy’s comments serve him ill but he is merely a member!
It does seem when Steve Crowther, Steve Allison or any of the other buffoons speaks out they damage the party credibility!!

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Hi,

one has to wonder whose ‘e’Mails are the more damaging to the cause they ‘claim’ to espouse.

I would submit that Steve Allisons are the more consequential as they are so clearly anti UKIP’s best interests.

So let us see what they have to say for themselves:

Firstly I would contend that Alan Hardy’s comments were far from wise when he stated:

Subject: UKIP’S APPEAL
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:23:22 +0100
From: alan hardy
To: Gordon Parkin , Jonathan Arnott , lisa duffy , , Malcolm Goyns , Nigel Farage , Stephen Allison
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Dear Sirs,

Courtesy of the Court of Appeal: those within UKIP who feel so inclined CANNOT do as they please, they are bound by the law as are the rest of society. And I may add that UKIP faces further legal action unless the decision not to allow former members of the BNP to stand as candidates for the party, as well as for internal posts, is reversed. Indeed I would like to see written evidence that it even exists.

Take note all of you, especially Mr. Farage.

ALAN HARDY
successful litigant.

Clearly one can empathise with Alan Hardy and just as Nigel Farage must have realised he had exposed UKIP to a hiding for nothing and a bill in the region of £30-50K. That  Farage left hurriedly from The Appeal Courts in The Strand it ill becomes Alan Hardy to crow over so obvious a victory.

Perhaps Farage would have served the party better had he read the original judgement which I have posted in full – see The Right Sidebar & click on Alan Hardy etc.

You will note the judgement draws attention to the fact that The BNP issue was clearly no more than a fig leaf etc.

To seek to uphold the fundamentals of basic law is now branded by some of UKIP’s enemies  as being ‘anti UKIP’.

Surely no one would deny UKIP the right to enact into their Constitution, Rules or Manifesto the resolution to prevent past members of The BNP from joining UKIP, on some grounds or other but clearly not on the grounds of Racism, anti Judaism, anti homosexuality or opposition to immigrants as UKIP’s parners in The EU The EFD are not only pro EU membership but have advocated killing Immigrants from North Africa, are avowedly Racist espousing segregation on public transport etc., anti Homosexual advocating dressing them as rabbits and shooting them and include Holocaust Deniers.

That UKIP welcomes membership of such a group yet seeks to ban ex members of The BNP from joining makes their claimed ruling look a little foolish and more a petty rivalry than a point of principle sadly.

That UKIP has a track record of involvement with The BNP members and before them The National Front is indisputable. It is also worth reminding people of UKIP’s own extremist past with the vetting of members by the criminal Gerry Gable via the equally dishonest Mark Croucher and false accusations of membership and association with The BNP.

That Alan Hardy sent his ‘e’Mail makes it look as if he is fronting efforts at bringing in BNP members which I doubt he would be so foolish as to espouse but we may well find his ‘e’Mail is little more than a venting of his anger at the dishonesty of UKIP as he has, I am given to understand, written confirmation from Nigel Farage that he had informed UKIP of his past membership of The BNP and Farage accepted him as a UKIP member specifically.

I still contend Alan Hardy’s ‘e’Mail was unwise whether he wishes to drift out of UKIP seeing them as a spent force or continue his active membership. He has also undermined his own credibility should he be serious in his bluster about further legal action.

I would contend Alan Hardy has harmed his own position but done little harm to UKIP save in costs, which are a mere bagatelle relative to the £Millions Farage has personally made from his position in UKIP.

Let us see if you think Steve Allison’s comments are any more professional or are they effectively anti UKIP in the manner that they damage the party and its credibility since he speaks as an executive of the party, unlike Alan Hardy who is merely an ex member of The BNP who is in dispute with UKIP over his membership status!

Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011
From: steve.allison107@btinternet.com
To: steve.allison107@btinternet.com
Subject:

You may have heard that UKIP lost its appeal in court today against the re-admittance to membership of a Mr.Alan Hardy. This is being spun by certain anti-UKIP Blogs and Websites as a defeat for UKIP and touted an example of how Nigel has been wasting UKIP’s money on personal legal vendettas.

I do not think anyone who knows me would accuse me of being a Nigel Sycophant or someone who believes Nigel can do no wrong, However, in this case I am definitely 100% behind Nigel. Alan Hardy is a former member of the BNP and his case is AT THE MOMENT limited to him. However, I believe that he is being used as a Trojan Horse to force UKIP to accept BNP Members into out ranks and worse. I copy below an e-mail that Hardy sent after the Appeal Court Ruling.

UKIP has to fight this man to the bitter end! We have all worked too hard to destroy the myth that UKIP and the BNP are in any way alike, we must keep out the BNP, this is a fight we cannot afford to lose.

Steve Allison

Let us consider this in some detail:

You may have heard that UKIP lost its appeal in court today against the re-admittance to membership of a Mr.Alan Hardy.

The Court’s ruled that Alan Hardy could not be barred from the party on the grounds given in the light of the facts – may I suggest that those who have UKIP’s long term wellbeing at heart and genuinely support UKIP take the trouble to read the judgement and it becomes clear why The Courts not only found in favour of Alan Hardy but that the original judgement was upheld by The Appeal Courts in The Strand.

This is being spun by certain anti-UKIP Blogs and Websites as a defeat for UKIP and touted an example of how Nigel has been wasting UKIP’s money on personal legal vendettas.

How else could any honest individual see this? I can not speak for anti UKIP blogs as i rarely read them  and then only by accident – sadly the blogs UKIP controls do more than enough damage to UKIP!

Clearly no one is likely to take UKIP seriously as a part of the law making process when it is so clearly in abuse of the law itself and something of a vexatious litigant!

Those who actively seek to support UKIP seek to clean-up the party not provide costly cover for its dishonest executive!


I do not think anyone who knows me would accuse me of being a Nigel Sycophant or someone who believes Nigel can do no wrong,

Perhaps you could show where Steve Allison has intentionally spoken out to clean-up UKIP and make it electable other than in his personal interest!

However, in this case I am definitely 100% behind Nigel.

Steve Allison pretends to balance yet promptly defends Nigel Farage’s ineptitude thereby showing a clear lack of judgement on his own part.

Alan Hardy is a former member of the BNP and his case is AT THE MOMENT limited to him.

Indeed it is and also to the irrefutable fact that UKIP leadership was aware of his past BNP affiliations and actively promoted or at least condoned his membership granting him not only membership of UKIP but as I recall a branch membership status!

However, I believe that he is being used as a Trojan Horse to force UKIP to accept BNP Members into out ranks and worse.

Were that the case do not forget it was Nigel Farage who threw open the gates of Troy and on precedent alone made the entry of The Trojan Horse possible to mix our poets it may be apposite to some to see the engineer hoist on his own petard but I as a supporter of UKIP over many years would like Laocoön caution as so aptly did Virgil with his notable line “Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes”

I copy below an e-mail that Hardy sent after the Appeal Court Ruling.

As per the mailing I received previously and have posted above.


UKIP has to fight this man to the bitter end!

A wise General selects his ground and also his time for battle where an inept fool charges in and looses as have UKIP – Indeed the end will be bitter. You may yet find that in making much of this issue UKIP may yet throw open the gates and stand bereft of clothing for a battle – however aware of the ineptitude of Alan Hardy’s message were it I seeking the well being of UKIP I would act with good grace and grant his membership as the Courts have legally shown in HIS CASE there were no legal grounds used in his removal.

Thereby no precedent will be set and the Trojan Horse can stand at the side of the road to the castle until it is shown to be of no use in smuggling the troops of the claimed enemy into the camp.

We have all worked too hard to destroy the myth that UKIP and the BNP are in any way alike, we must keep out the BNP, this is a fight we cannot afford to lose.

This of course is no more than self serving spin and clearly twaddle when you consider UKIP’s fellowship with ex NF members and the use it has made of ex BNP members – that it is clearly twaddle is shown by UKIP’s associates in The EU – merely BNP with funny accents!!

Steve Allison

Were it I seeking to serve UKIP I would not be wasting members’ money nor undermining UKIP’s credibility but as a long term supporter I would be considering the long term and to that end I would call an immediate NEC meeting. I would enact a rule empowering a sub committee of people seen as honest and of probity from within UKIP which would by deffinition preclude members of The NEC and leadership claque and I would empower them to review every member, starting from the top and reserve the right to refund the membership of any member who fulfilled certaimn criteria in terms of past memberships and Criminal Records.

One would have to take care as to how this was worded as it could well preclude individuals like Derek clark, Nigel Farage, Jeffrey Titford, Graham Booth and the like from membership as they have all fallen foul of the law I understand and have had to repay monies they fraudulently obtained or dishonestly used. I understand we are yet to hear the outcome of the case against Stuart Agnew and that against David Bannerman though I gather Mike Nattrass has withdrawn his claim against The Sunday Times and they are to publish an update that subsequent to their earlier article OLAF have decided to take no further action against Mike Nattrass.

In the matter of cleaning up UKIP the party would be well served were it to put before the committee as constituted such individuals as Annabelle Fuller, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Andrew Smith, Hugh Williams and others who through their fantasies and dishonesty have corrupted UKIP and demeaned its reputation as a credible political force.

I wonder what the anti UKIP bloggers that Steve Allison seems to follow will make of dealing with the truth and on what leg they would seek to stand if UKIP were cleaned-up and presented a credible professional stance with vision, strategy, tactics a plan – training and a structure that would make them presentable to the informed electorate and encourage activists to rejoin with probity and transparency.

Until that time UKIP defames itself daily on its own controlled blogs such that one wonders what an anti UKIP blog would find to write about – though Steve Alison has made a pretty fair fist of showing us by example.

As a supporter I am all too well aware that unless UKIP makes these moves towards professionalising they are increasingly a part of the problem when it comes to leaving The EU and have no place in the solution.

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#0594* – UKIP – WATCH Steve ALLISON Pull The Wings Off of its NEC

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/07/2011

#0594* – UKIP – WATCH Steve ALLISON Pull The Wings Off of its NEC

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One has to wonder why Steve Allison did not listen to those who knew he would just be used and damage what reputation he had, if he tried to find his way onto The UKIP MEP lists via The NEC!

Clearly he is starting to realise! 

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there WILL be additional comments on this posting when I get a chance but to be going on with the liar, fantasist and discreditted fool Douglas Denny has been posturing on UKIP Members’ forum but I can’t be bothered cut and pasting his desperate efforts to seem credible – However he is threatening to post on the other UKIP controlled blog owned by the corrupt and incipid little dweeb Anthony Butcher who is always willing to host any vituperative dishonesty UKIP require posted.

To find out more about the general dishonesty and specific lies of Douglas Denny CLICK HERE

To read Douglas Denny’s comment on UKIP Members’ Forum see the end of this posting!

UKIP: Steve Allison on the NEC

A most interesting report!
Which is published verbatim below and below that is parsed by both Junius and I:

Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:47:09 +0100
From: steve.allison107@btinternet.com
To:
Subject: NEC DIGEST – July 2011

DISCLAIMER : You are receiving this e-mail as you have indicated in the past that you would like to be kept informed of my activities as a member of UKIP’s NEC. If you don’t wish to receive these e-mails please reply with “STOP” in the e-mail subject area. These observations are my personal comments and are not an official record of the NEC Meeting. A formal report and the summary minutes will eventually appear on UKIP’s Website. However, I am a great believer in transparency and so write this e-mail in that spirit but I do self censor these digests based on the following guidelines for deciding if something needs to be considered confidential. Regardless of how open I may wish to be I am not going to publish things that could cause problems later on.
1. Information relating to on-going or potential legal action; 2. Information of a personal nature relating to an individual; 3. Commercially sensitive information; 4. Information which could be considered privileged (eg advice of a solicitor or an accountant); 5. Information which could be used to disadvantage the party.

Hi,

everyone, sorry this digest is a little late but I just couldn’t summon up enthusiasm to type up my notes on the way home on Monday night. I put this down to the pint and a half I had in the Sherlock Homes before getting on the train and I have been very busy with my real life (visiting clients and earning money) since Monday. To be honest nothing of any great importance was discussed at the NEC, which is about par for the course. No papers were distributed in advance of the NEC so once again it was try to listen, read, understand and then make some useful input on the hoof. I personally am just not mentally nimble enough to do this. I am considering sending my apologies to the next NEC when no papers are circulated in advance since that will obviously mean nothing of any importance is on the agenda.

The main NEC was preceded by another Constitution Review Working Party. The draft of the constitution was at least circulated on the Friday so we had an opportunity to scan through it in advance. Unfortunately I didn’t really get the opportunity to do more than scan and so struggled to absorb and understand 18 pages of “notwithstanding” and “aforementioned clauses excepted” and other legal gobbledegook. The review meeting managed to get about half way through the third draft before it ran out of time.

There was some discussion over a clause that defined the NEC as the party’s Board of Directors and, after the Leader, the party’s principal authority. The “after the leader” was vigorously contested by several of the working party and the agreement reached was that the NEC had to have final authority on all admin and financial matters and The leader would participate in these discussions as an equal member of the NEC. The NEC was also keen to maintain final authority over the party manifesto, but accepted in principle that the leader was responsible for the political direction of the party. This actually came up in the main NEC after lunch when the Welsh Assembly Elections were discussed. (More on this later).

The main NEC kicked off with apologies for absence. Michael Zuckerman was not present but it was explained that he considered his term of office expired in March and as he was not seeking re-election, he would not be attending any more NEC Meetings. Rachel Oxley was also absent but as the Chairman announced her resignation from the NEC it was not a surprise she was not at the meeting. The NEC wished both Michael and Rachel the best for the future and expressed their thanks for their service to the party. Rachel’s resignation means that there will be six vacancies on the NEC for election in September, not five as stated in the Independence News. Nominations open for the NEC next week and close in August. The candidates will get an opportunity to speak at the Conference and the vote will be by postal ballot after that.

Minutes of the last meeting went through more or less on the nod. I missed the last meeting so I could not really comment.

Under matters arising, I gave a report on the Pan European Parties debate. The ballot papers have been printed and the fulfilment house is making up the packs this week. Ballots will be despatched to the members starting from Monday 18th July and votes need to be returned by 15th August.

The cost of preparing for the ballot has been £4,685.00 (based on an eligible voting membership of 15,519). The costs of actually receiving back and counting the returned ballots depends totally on the turn out. If we get one vote back then it will have cost £5,385.31 for that member to have his (or her) say. If we get 100% turn out then it will have cost £10,195.81 for the ballot. The actual amount will be somewhere between the two extremes!

Steve Crowther pointed out that the result of the ballot would be binding on all MEPs. Either all would join a P-EP or none would join. Gerard Batten, attending the NEC as one of the MEP Representatives (the other this time was Paul Nuttall) pointed out he would not join a P-EP that did not have a commitment to withdrawal in its articles. Currently there is no P-EP that has such a commitment. It may be that in the event of a “YES” vote in the ballot then UKIP would need to set up its own P-EP in order to have such a commitment enshrined in the P-EP’s constitution.

Doug Denny then gave a brief report on Double nomination. This is sometghing I have been trying to push for a while and the NEC accepted the proposal to co-operate formally with residents’ associations and local independents using the “dual candidate” route now available to registered political parties (NB Registered parties NOT individuals). If for example an organisation called “Hartlepool Independents” or “Hartlepool Residents” was registered with the Electoral Commission then UKIP could reach an agreement to field joint candidates. The ballot paper could say “Hartlepool Independent and UKIP Candidate” or “Hartlepool Residents and UK Independence Party Candidate” It costs £250 to register a political party and I’ve suggested to my branch committee that it might be a good move politically to get “Hartlepool Independents” or “Hartlepool Residents” registered and under our control. We could then maybe attract people to stand next May who are not going to join UKIP but who would like to join an “Independent” or “Residents” Party. At the very least, we should consider registering these names to deny them to others!

Nigel gave his leaders report. As per usual, nothing had been circulated in advance. Basically, all’s well with the world and things are going great. The Patrons’ Club continues to expand and the dinner that night was oversubscribed.

Chairman’s report covered the London Elections. Ten Candidates have declared for Mayor and an on-line “primary” is to be held. The names were not mentioned but I assume the London Committee are on top of this? Annual Conference in Eastbourne was mentioned. Nothing new really here apart from a suggestion that the EFD Group might use some of their budget to sponsor at least part of the conference. It was also pointed out that each individual MEP could use their allowances to have a stand at the conference show casing the work they do in their region.

A good idea really and one that would legitimately put EU/MEP money into the conference. Interesting to see how many MEPs take up this suggestion?

A new recruitment brochure was flashed in front of the NEC. This has been sent to the Regional Organisers for comment. It was not passed round to the NEC.

Legal matters was its usual depressing report. Least said about it the better

Finance showed we were in the red but not badly so. The cash flow looked worse than it was because all the costs for the conference were known but ticket sales had not yet started so that was making the situation look worse than it really was. The Deputy Treasure explained in his report that this was because the outgoings on the conference were definite items of expenditure we would be making but ticket sales were only a possible income we might be getting. So, prudence said we had to assume we wouldn’t sell any tickets until the money actually started to come in.

Jonathan Arnott has taken over the management of the introduction of the new membership database. He has only been doing this for a couple of weeks so is still getting to grips with the brief. I would have liked some form of written report and hopefully this will eventually be forthcoming. However, I’m not holding my breath!

John Bufton and David Bevan then addressed the NEC. The discussion was a little side tracked by a discussion on whether Wales had a regional organiser and if a dedicated campaign office was essential, (my view on that one is NO it isn’t. UKIP spent £50,000 on a “Campaign Office” for the 2009 European Parliament Elections and any value for money analysis would, in my opinion, have concluded it was not money well spent.).

The Welsh discussion then further meandered off the point into a quite interesting exchange of views on UKIP’s position on an English Parliament. Ultimately, the Welsh Question could not be totally lost and the answer was that policy was indeed changed at the last minute and without reference to the Welsh Committee or indeed to the NEC.

The long-standing policy of abolish the Welsh Assembly was changed to one that, in my opinion, fudged the issue to adopt a more populist line which produced a basically reformist position rather than the clear cut abolish. This was justified on the grounds that a majority of those people who bothered to vote supported more powers for the assembly at the referendum which was held just a few days before the elections. UKIP therefore had no choice but to drop the abolish the assembly policy!

This decision was taken by Nigel. As the UKIP Party Constitution currently stands he was totally within his rights and exercising powers he holds under the constitution. Indeed the Party Leader can adopt, amend or drop any policy he likes without any reference to anyone. He can consult IF he wishes to but is not obliged to take any notice of any advice he may receive. (This was the same reason UKIP supported AV. Nigel decided it was the way to go so that was UKIP’s policy!)

The Welsh Committee may indeed feel they had their legs chopped from under them and may feel that UKIP should be seeking to abolish the assembly rather than just reform it. Being a reform party does bring UKIP into line with every other party in Wales so are they all wrong? However, the bottom line is that UKIP Policy is set by Nigel. He decided a more populist reform policy was preferable to an uncompromising abolitionist policy. That is the prerogative of the UKIP Party Leader and there is nothing UKIP Wales can do about it. Of course, if chasing populist votes is the name of the game then every other party in Wales supports the EU. So maybe UKIP Wales needs to change from withdrawal from the EU to reform the EU?

There was some discussion on the MEPs code of conduct and the nine points it covered. Nothing really new was said. Basically the argument has now become circular and old ground is being re-hashed. The Code of Conduct signed by UKIP’s MEP Candidates is too weak and not enforceable. Stable doors and bolted horses come to mind. The lesson for next time needs to be learned and the document needs to clearly spell out what is expected.

The concept of “friends” groups was also discussed, as there is a request to recognise Hindu Friends of UKIP Group. As we have already recognised a UKIP Friends of Israel group, it makes it almost impossible to object to anyone who wants to attach the UKIP name to their own particular cause. Personally I would not officially recognise any “friends” groups as I consider them divisive and completely against UKIP’s supposed policy of not pandering to special interest groups. As it turn out the UKIP Friends of Israel have nearly a full page in the next issue of Independence News. Another dangerous precedent in my opinion. However, what do I know?

David Coburn made a brief presentation on why we should hold the 2012 spring conference in Gibraltar but as Steve Crowther informed the NEC that it was going to be in Skegness this made the whole discussion a bit pointless.

We were now running out of time. Nigel had already left to get ready for the Patrons’ Club pre-dinner drinks at 6.00pm and of course the important people on the NEC also needed to be getting over there promptly.

As usual, there was a lot of talk but very few or more accurately no real meaningful decisions taken. There is no NEC Meeting in August but I’m sure the Party will somehow manage to survive without our guiding hand. After all, if you look on page 18 of your Independence News you will see a comprehensive listing of “Who’s Who in UKIP” and the NEC is conspicuous by its absence!

As usual there were many things said that I have not covered but these are my high point recollections. There will be an official report by the Party Chairman posted on the Members forum in due course.

& Here it is parsed with comments:

Hi,

everyone, sorry this digest is a little late but I just couldn’t summon up enthusiasm to type up my notes on the way home on Monday night. I put this down to the pint and a half I had in the Sherlock Homes before getting on the train and I have been very busy with my real life (visiting clients and earning money) since Monday.

To be honest nothing of any great importance was discussed at the NEC, which is about par for the course.

G.L-W.:  I have been reporting in some detail on NEC meetings for many years and I agree this judgement – In fact so do UKIP leadership who have often told their members not to read my various blogs and ‘e’Mails as they are bunkum – well then clearly as they have NEVER managed to show a single dishonesty or inaccuracy one is forced to conclude the facts I provide which ARE without exception true show UKIP NEC just spout ‘bunkum’. 


As Steve makes clear – ‘It was ever thus’.

No papers were distributed in advance of the NEC

G.L-W.: Obviously as that would require planning and also members are aware so I presume Steve is ‘no one on the NEC or in UKIP’s leadership and its parasites trust eachother’. 

so once again it was try to listen, read, understand and then make some useful input on the hoof.

G.L-W.: Why when no one cares nor listens and Farage and his little claque make all the decisions anyway. 

I personally am just not mentally nimble enough to do this. I am considering sending my apologies to the next NEC when no papers are circulated in advance since that will obviously mean nothing of any importance is on the agenda.

G.L-W.: Had you thought of actimng with integrity Steve and rsigning? That would at least not lend credibility to the corrupt scam; just as did Tony Scholfield, Nikki Sinclaire, Del Young, John Whittacker, Dr. Eric Edmonds, Richard Suchorzewski, Dr. David Abbott, Petrina Holdsworth, Linda Guest, Gill Chant, Roger Knapman, John de Rourke, Anthony Butcher, John Pratt, Gregg Beaman, Simon Muir, Peter Watson – all of whom and more are no longer willing to have their reputation befouled by association with elected office in UKIP. 

For a fuller list CLICK HERE


The main NEC was preceded by another Constitution Review Working Party. The draft of the constitution was at least circulated on the Friday so we had an opportunity to scan through it in advance. Unfortunately I didn’t really get the opportunity to do more than scan and so struggled to absorb and understand 18 pages of “notwithstanding” and “aforementioned clauses excepted” and other legal gobbledegook.

G.L-W.: Clearly as crass and amateur as previous constitutions. No doubt a back door way of introducing the scams that were rejected by the members when last UKIP leadership and his parasites tried to dupe the members!

The review meeting managed to get about half way through the third draft before it ran out of time.

G.L-W.: So like previous constitutions it will be amateur and shoddy leaving UKIP facing the Courts yet more with a collection of unwinnable cases based on an as usual incompetent constitution – How many £100,000s will it cost in stupidity this time?


There was some discussion over a clause that defined the NEC as the party’s Board of Directors and, after the Leader, the party’s principal authority. The “after the leader” was vigorously contested by several of the working party and the agreement reached was that the NEC had to have final authority on all admin and financial matters and The leader would participate in these discussions as an equal member of the NEC.

G.L-W.: So the yes men will be lined up to bootlick as ever. That is how come the NEC is composed of mainly dross now – Just who amongst them would YOU put on the board of YOUR Company? Many have convictions as far as I can see and have been found to have defrauded the public purse and been ordered to repay money fraudullently obtained – Who on earth would trust these liars and pond life?

The NEC was also keen to maintain final authority over the party manifesto, but accepted in principle that the leader was responsible for the political direction of the party.

G.L-W.: UKIP NEC has no say as has been shown time and time again with the lies, distortions and fabrications of Farage on TV as an example – it seems he is only outshone as a liar by Annabelle Fuller and Mick McGough!

This actually came up in the main NEC after lunch when the Welsh Assembly Elections were discussed. (More on this later).

G.L-W.: Just as an aside to show the utter unprofessionalism of UKIP – The Devolved EU Assemblyfor Wales is risibly known as The Welsh Assembly Government or The National Assembly for Wales. For details of The Welsh Assembly CLICK HERE


The main NEC kicked off with apologies for absence. Michael Zuckerman was not present but it was explained that he considered his term of office expired in March and as he was not seeking re-election, he would not be attending any more NEC Meetings.

G.L-W.: This is normally called a resignation but he is right he Burton, Denny & Coburn all expired as members of The NEC in March though they may well have been officially extended as Yes Men for lack of a new crop. 

Rachel Oxley was also absent but as the Chairman announced her resignation from the NEC it was not a surprise she was not at the meeting.

G.L-W.: Oxley’s resignation letter was published on this blog some time ago CLICK HERE

The NEC wished both Michael and Rachel the best for the future and expressed their thanks for their service to the party. Rachel’s resignation means that there will be six vacancies on the NEC for election in September, not five as stated in the Independence News. Nominations open for the NEC next week and close in August. The candidates will get an opportunity to speak at the Conference and the vote will be by postal ballot after that.

G.L-W.: Astonishingly for a group pretending to political aspirations there are barely enough legitimate elected NEC members to form a Quorum – thus yet again the Claque of co-optees and MEPs become Farage’s new dictatorship. 

Such incompetence is hardly inspirationsl when one considers the catastrophic results from the last National Election and the farcical posturing of the Mare of Ramsey and the Party afterwards having achieved nothing of note after 18 years at a cost of £Millions!


Minutes of the last meeting went through more or less on the nod. I missed the last meeting so I could not really comment.

Under matters arising, I gave a report on the Pan European Parties debate. The ballot papers have been printed and the fulfilment house is making up the packs this week. Ballots will be despatched to the members starting from Monday 18th July and votes need to be returned by 15th August.

The cost of preparing for the ballot has been £4,685.00 (based on an eligible voting membership of 15,519). The costs of actually receiving back and counting the returned ballots depends totally on the turn out. If we get one vote back then it will have cost £5,385.31 for that member to have his (or her) say. If we get 100% turn out then it will have cost £10,195.81 for the ballot. The actual amount will be somewhere between the two extremes!

Junius says: No wonder UKIP is in the red!

G.L-W.: What a dishonest debacle this most undeniably has been – a study in bad and incompetent leadership that has done yet more to split the party with liars and cheats like Stuart Agnew MEP, Mick McGough and the like fronting the scam for a PEPP backed up by the oleaginous Michael Greaves who would seem to be just another Tory failure of no merit but much p**s and wind – like so many before him in UKIP!


Steve Crowther pointed out that the result of the ballot would be binding on all MEPs. Either all would join a P-EP or none would join.

G.L-W.: Immediately and in a spirit of professionalism Gerard Batten pointed out that Steve Crowther didn’t have a clue what he was talking about as usual – perhaps Crowther would serve himself well were he to read up on the rules of The EU – however many such pretend agreements are put in place they haven’t a shred of authority as they are ultra virese. The EU states that elected MEPs can NOT be bound to a policy or to vote a certain way by a whip or a party.

UKIP’s unprofessionalism just makes them look endlessly stupid! 

Gerard Batten, attending the NEC as one of the MEP Representatives (the other this time was Paul Nuttall) pointed out he would not join a P-EP that did not have a commitment to withdrawal in its articles.

Junius says: And there was us thinking that Gerard would never join a PEP under ANY circumstances!

G.L-W.: Thus clearly whatever UKIP members vote at a cost of upto £10K+ UKIP MEPs will do what Nigel Farage tells them and please don’t expect either Gerard Batten or John Buffton to develope a backbone and stand on their own feet as it might harm their chances of re-election and representing these United Kingdoms or their constituents has absolutely no significance to them as they have made very clear.

Currently there is no P-EP that has such a commitment. It may be that in the event of a “YES” vote in the ballot then UKIP would need to set up its own P-EP in order to have such a commitment enshrined in the P-EP’s constitution.

G.L-W.: UKIP has shown no signs of setting up a leadership nor even a structure so do try to talk some sense Steve!


Doug Denny then gave a brief report on Double nomination. This is sometghing I have been trying to push for a while and the NEC accepted the proposal to co-operate formally with residents’ associations and local independents using the “dual candidate” route now available to registered political parties (NB Registered parties NOT individuals).

If for example an organisation called “Hartlepool Independents” or “Hartlepool Residents” was registered with the Electoral Commission then UKIP could reach an agreement to field joint candidates. The ballot paper could say “Hartlepool Independent and UKIP Candidate” or “Hartlepool Residents and UK Independence Party Candidate” It costs £250 to register a political party and I’ve suggested to my branch committee that it might be a good move politically to get “Hartlepool Independents” or “Hartlepool Residents” registered and under our control. We could then maybe attract people to stand next May who are not going to join UKIP but who would like to join an “Independent” or “Residents” Party. At the very least, we should consider registering these names to deny them to others!

G.L-W.: So Denny, UKIP NEC and others will be only too happy to exploit any EU Law for personal gain and as stated seek votes from people who would not wish to vote for UKIP by subterfuge!!

How proud UKIP must be that having been an unmittigated disaster in Domestic votes for 18 years with less than 30 elected individuals out of some 19,500 available elected offices they now stoop to forming other parties to dupe the public.

We note during an EU Election UKIP set out to defeat a rival by stealing their name – yet more dishonest are the two UKIP members Andrew Smith and Mick McGough who despite their position in UKIP where one of the slimes is on The NEC they are in total breech of UKIP’s own rules and have jointly registered a UKIP spoiler party!


Nigel gave his leaders report. As per usual, nothing had been circulated in advance. Basically, all’s well with the world and things are going great.

 Junius says: Ouch!
G.L-W.: Junius seems to overlook the intelligence and political nouse of the audience to whom he was delivering the report so any old schpiel from UKIP’s sales rep would do! 

The Patrons’ Club continues to expand and the dinner that night was oversubscribed.

G.L-W.: Not very convincing!


Chairman’s report covered the London Elections. Ten Candidates have declared for Mayor and an on-line “primary” is to be held. The names were not mentioned but I assume the London Committee are on top of this? Annual Conference in Eastbourne was mentioned. Nothing new really here apart from a suggestion that the EFD Group might use some of their budget to sponsor at least part of the conference. It was also pointed out that each individual MEP could use their allowances to have a stand at the conference show casing the work they do in their region.

G.L-W.: Are we to assume Gerard Batten will not attend as The EFD is not a withdrawalist group it is pro EU Membership, pro reform (undefined), Racist, anti Homosexual, anti Jewish and has openly advocated killing immigrants from North Africa without a murmur of censure form other members!

How proud UKIP must be to have such associates in the gutter they have chosen to frequent!


A good idea really and one that would legitimately put EU/MEP money into the conference. Interesting to see how many MEPs take up this suggestion?

G.L-W.: Rather more significant would be to see an MEP make ANY donation to the party other than to get themselves re-elected so as to buy a larger pension for themselves.


A new recruitment brochure was flashed in front of the NEC. This has been sent to the Regional Organisers for comment. It was not passed round to the NEC.

G.L-W.: Clearly the NEC may think they are important but The MEPs and leadership claque do not!


Legal matters was its usual depressing report. Least said about it the better

Junius says: UKIP face ANOTHER day in court this week. Their costs could be in excess of £30,000. More on this later.

G.L-W.: UKIP have a startling record and list of guilty verdicts over the years – have they one where they were NOT found guilty?


Finance showed we were in the red but not badly so. The cash flow looked worse than it was because all the costs for the conference were known but ticket sales had not yet started so that was making the situation look worse than it really was. The Deputy Treasure explained in his report that this was because the outgoings on the conference were definite items of expenditure we would be making but ticket sales were only a possible income we might be getting. So, prudence said we had to assume we wouldn’t sell any tickets until the money actually started to come in.

G.L-W.: The treasurer being Stuart Wheeler who has already stated he is not interested in the dishonesty of the accounts and his deputy Hugh Williams having a proven track record of dishonesty and cheating members I guess this report is about as trustworthy as they used to be when that liar and charlatan Andrew Smith pretended to keep the books!


Jonathan Arnott has taken over the management of the introduction of the new membership database. He has only been doing this for a couple of weeks so is still getting to grips with the brief. I would have liked some form of written report and hopefully this will eventually be forthcoming. However, I’m not holding my breath!

Junius says: Don’t hold your breath. Jonathon ‘frightened rabbit’ Arnott is about as much use as a chocolate fireplace. If he had just one brain cell, he’d be dangerous.

G.L-W.: Perhaps Junius is a little harsh on the lad as he did get a degree in sums and even taught maths in a little private school for a while. I understand he obtained a Masters qualification in the consumption of pies – as skill in whichh I gather his fellow members in Sheffield excel

John Bufton and David Bevan then addressed the NEC. The discussion was a little side tracked by a discussion on whether Wales had a regional organiser and if a dedicated campaign office was essential, (my view on that one is NO it isn’t. UKIP spent £50,000 on a “Campaign Office” for the 2009 European Parliament Elections and any value for money analysis would, in my opinion, have concluded it was not money well spent.).

The Welsh discussion then further meandered off the point into a quite interesting exchange of views on UKIP’s position on an English Parliament. Ultimately, the Welsh Question could not be totally lost and the answer was that policy was indeed changed at the last minute and without reference to the Welsh Committee or indeed to the NEC.

The long-standing policy of abolish the Welsh Assembly was changed to one that, in my opinion, fudged the issue to adopt a more populist line which produced a basically reformist position rather than the clear cut abolish. This was justified on the grounds that a majority of those people who bothered to vote supported more powers for the assembly at the referendum which was held just a few days before the elections. UKIP therefore had no choice but to drop the abolish the assembly policy!

Junius says: More twisted Farage logic. So as the Welsh voted for more devolution in the March referendum it would be undemocratic for UKIP to abolish the assembly? So what about the 1975 referendum? British people voted to stay in the EEC. Shouldn’t UKIP then support continued EU membership using the result of that referendum as the basis for their argument?

G.L-W.: UKIP is little more than a rather bad joke in Wales – this is not the first catastrophic intervention by Farage as many will remember the stumble bum drunk in the frock he introduced at the last minute in a previous election:

Previous to that he foist the self serving and untrustworthy Jim Carver on UKIP Wales to sell his umbrellas and latterly with the duplicitous David Lott to seek to corrupt an election based upon lies and corruption.


This decision was taken by Nigel. As the UKIP Party Constitution currently stands he was totally within his rights and exercising powers he holds under the constitution. Indeed the Party Leader can adopt, amend or drop any policy he likes without any reference to anyone. He can consult IF he wishes to but is not obliged to take any notice of any advice he may receive. (This was the same reason UKIP supported AV. Nigel decided it was the way to go so that was UKIP’s policy!)

G.L-W.: So UKIP may wish to be democratically elected and resent the lack of democracy in the EU but do not even accept the first principles of democracy within their own organisation and for all the fuss show there is absolutely no point in having a Constitution as being a dictatorship every item can be set aside by Farage with out consultation and hinderance!

This was noted by one long term supporter of UKIP and sent to me witjh the lament that ‘IF you exchanged Farage for Chavez it was sadly almost exactly accurate of UKIP:

…thus exposing a major weakness of Chavez’s government which is that the leader has no heir. That is partly by design, of course. Chavez has put loyalty to himself before loyalty to the state, squashed any rival to his power (even top lieutenants keep low profiles) and surrounded himself with talentless cronies. Approval ratings of leading members of his party languish in the low 30s. Thus Chavism as a political movement has a limited future.

Sadly how very true!


The Welsh Committee may indeed feel they had their legs chopped from under them and may feel that UKIP should be seeking to abolish the assembly rather than just reform it. Being a reform party does bring UKIP into line with every other party in Wales so are they all wrong?

However, the bottom line is that UKIP Policy is set by Nigel. He decided a more populist reform policy was preferable to an uncompromising abolitionist policy. That is the prerogative of the UKIP Party Leader and there is nothing UKIP Wales can do about it.

G.L-W.: So the membership and the donors can go and get stuffed as long as they keep Farage in the manner he has come to expect at the expense of UKIP and in betrayal of these United Kingdoms – where as shown in this example alone he clearly states his disinterest in principles and integrity, leadership or morality, ethics or democracy – ANY expediency will do to get hiself elected!

Of course, if chasing populist votes is the name of the game then every other party in Wales supports the EU. So maybe UKIP Wales needs to change from withdrawal from the EU to reform the EU?

Junius says: Confirmation that UKIP is a dictatorship under one man.

G.L-W.:But UKIP does support The EU and is even campaigning to help undermine Patriotic domestic politics – hardly surprising in view of their risible results in domestic elections – their only hope is in doing well for themselves in The EU, whatever principles they may prostitute to do so!


There was some discussion on the MEPs code of conduct and the nine points it covered. Nothing really new was said. Basically the argument has now become circular and old ground is being re-hashed. The Code of Conduct signed by UKIP’s MEP Candidates is too weak and not enforceable. Stable doors and bolted horses come to mind. The lesson for next time needs to be learned and the document needs to clearly spell out what is expected.

G.L-W.:  As already stated this is utter cobblers!


The concept of “friends” groups was also discussed, as there is a request to recognise Hindu Friends of UKIP Group. As we have already recognised a UKIP Friends of Israel group, it makes it almost impossible to object to anyone who wants to attach the UKIP name to their own particular cause.

G.L-W.:  Especially as Friends of Israel are utterly corrupt and based upon unsound ethics being in fact Friends of Zionism one of the great evils on this planet with which no political party should EVER be associated. How does UKIP justify the massacres by the Zionist Terrorists of the IDF?

How does UKIP justify the fascist style slaughter of Palestinians in their own homes? 


How does UKIP justify the creation of a ghetto surrounded by concrete walls and razor wire and attacked by helicopter gunships and turned to rubble with tanks by zionist filth?


Hated by The Jewish peoples world wide:

Personally I would not officially recognise any “friends” groups as I consider them divisive and completely against UKIP’s supposed policy of not pandering to special interest groups. As it turn out the UKIP Friends of Israel have nearly a full page in the next issue of Independence News. Another dangerous precedent in my opinion. However, what do I know?

G.L-W.:  I totally agree with Steve on this point – That UKIP are friends with such vile people and with the revolting racists, anti homosexual and anti Jewish supporters of membership of The EU speaks volumes of the ethics of UKIP in a manner no amount of denial will expunge!


David Coburn made a brief presentation on why we should hold the 2012 spring conference in Gibraltar but as Steve Crowther informed the NEC that it was going to be in Skegness this made the whole discussion a bit pointless.

G.L-W.: What keeps David Coburn’s ears apart as clearly it isn’t common sense – nor is it likely this would be approved as the party dictator and Steve’s resume shows Farage is Dictator of UKIP, he would not be able to attend. Perhaps this clown Coburn should learn a little of the party and try to understand the EU before making a fool of himself.

Unsurprisingly Farage has left when Coburn was wasting everyone’s time!


We were now running out of time. Nigel had already left to get ready for the Patrons’ Club pre-dinner drinks at 6.00pm and of course the important people on the NEC also needed to be getting over there promptly.

G.L-W.: Steve has made it abundantly clear there is no one of importance on the NEC, those of any merit are long gone and even the lees of the leadership claque are no more than a joke in bad taste!


As usual, there was a lot of talk but very few or more accurately no real meaningful decisions taken. There is no NEC Meeting in August but I’m sure the Party will somehow manage to survive without our guiding hand. After all, if you look on page 18 of your Independence News you will see a comprehensive listing of “Who’s Who in UKIP” and the NEC is conspicuous by its absence!

Junius says: Why are you so surprised? Fuhrer Farage makes all the decisions! We did warn you!  

G.L-W.: Perhaps Steve would care to go back through the records of UKIP and establish when if ever The NEC had ANY relevance, any respect or any meaningful input. UKIP NEC are the posturing castrati of the UKIP choir singing for their master and droppings from his trough!                     


As usual there were many things said that I have not covered but these are my high point recollections. There will be an official report by the Party Chairman posted on the Members forum in due course.

Junius says: Why are you so surprised? Fuhrer Farage makes all the decisions! We did warn you!

G.L-W.:Hardly worth the effort with a mere handfull of members posting there and only to be noticed as they seek praise and position on the members’ heavily censored Forum.

It is hardly worth reading, in fact I rarely do these days as it is so boring and not a political brain cell in sight!

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As increasingly UKIP leaders and their parasites fall out and squabble like ferrests in a sack to keep their positions and access to self importance and their snouts in the troughs – you will note the calliber of the NEC has all but collapsed.

Even the dross is drifting off disgruntled with Rachel Oxley who was as much use as a soup sandwich, seemingly unwilling to carry on as just as she had no past achievements she realised there were none likely in the future.

Michael Zukerman has also drifted away no doubt in the realisation that he could not expect to make more money out of UKIP – you will note virtually every case UKIP has entered since he as a Solicitor joined has led to a Guilty verdict against UKIP. Such a track record can not have helped the record of Bent & Manure!

We still see the liar Derek Clark posing & posdturing, when he can hear what is going on, I wonder when he will have the integrity to admit he is a liar and appologise for his basic dishonesty – he may even care to tell members just howmuch he was ordered to repay to The EU when found guilty of stealing public money by OLAF – a difficult item to report on as he is still waiting for details of the action his local constabulary will be taking against him

We note that having read the OLAF Report available under FoI that removed any pretence of inaccuracy in the Sunday Times article that he may have tried to promote Mike Nattrass has decided to withdraw his threats of prosecution against The Sunday Times.

As I recal The Sunday Times offered to publish the updated info but Nattrass didn’t want that he demanded an apology and was claiming they had prevented him from being UKIP leader (some will remember when the summer holidays ended Mike decided to have an extended holiday in The Phillipines and wasn’t even around until the later part of the leadership election.

Dellusionaly that did not stop him claiming ‘it was The ST wot dun it‘ or he would have won so he demanded a full apology.

Well he did til he realised just how close he had come to being found guilty and like Graham Booth being forced to repay money as also with Farage, West, Titford and Clark.

The threats and bluster have collapsed like a pricked balloon and I expect Nattrass will hope for the update to get the egg off his face.

One has to wonder if Stuart Agnew and David Bannerman will get off as lightly, in view of their confessions and fraud..
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Added from UKIP Members’ Forum as posted by Douglas Denny:

Quote Originally Posted by “Douglas Denny
I agree with the Wales committee.

I do not see any reason why UKIP should follow populist “fashions” in politics just because other parties take a populist stance about regional devolution and regional assemblies. Just because they follow the populist argument that that is what the public seem to want does NOT necessarily make it right for the country in the context of British independence or long-term stability. It does not do these things; it is pure short-term, short-sighted politics.

The public have not been properly informed for forty years what the EU is all about, nor do they know much about the real issues involved in regional government or Regional Assemblies as they have been (deliberately) kept largely in the dark about it. They know so little about the EU itself – why do people seem to think they know much about the implications of Regional government and Assemblies?

The public are wrong to accept regional assemblies and devolved government because it breaks up the existing system of local government and promotes the EU’s ideology of regional government. On that basis UKIP should oppose it – and UKIP would be RIGHT in doing so.

In fact regional devolution goes against the primary rationale of UKIP in my opinion – to oppose all EU inspired constructs which interfere with the existing political structure of Great Britain, and especially if such interference assists in the breakup of the United Kingdom. UKIP should be conserving the constitution of the UK, not helping to break it up.

The implied opposition to the EU, and support for a United Kingdom is incorporated into our very name: The United Kingdom Independence Party.
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It is now Nigel Farage’s policy – and therefore UKIP’s because the Leader has ultimate authority to make or change policy without reference to anyone – to accept a “Federal United Kingdom”. … a system of separate federal governmental ‘states’ within Britain. (All coming under the overall jurisdiction of the EU of course !)

I publicly state now I profoundly disagree with this stance.

I have to go along with it if the Leader says that is what it is because I have no choice – but I still disagree with it.

This case is an excellent example of where UKIP, after the Roger Knapman inspired change in UKP’s constitution, (to have only the Leader determining policy without reference to the NEC or anyone else) is now in a profoundly precarious situation with a particular policy, having one person only determining that policy – and that person can do so and change it on the hoof. It should be perfectly obvious it is highly dangerous, and this is an example of it.
It is a recipe for division within the party – as well as being as a policy – de facto – divisive for the country. The pan-European parties issue is another example of potentially highly divisive policy within the party, but at least in this case the membership get to make the final decision.

Having as official policy the support of devolved regional governments is a highly dangerous and worrying course for UKIP to take in my opinon.

Regional government and assemblies is a direct EU construct.
A “Federal Britain” of regional governments is an excellent way of encouraging squabbling between them. They then become ripe for takeover if they wish to devolve further by direct control from Brussels in the future. Divide and rule (i.e. and therefore conquer) is as true and effective a strategy now as it always has been in history.

Supporting devolution and regional assemblies as official policy does not enhance our profile in the country as the known and respected opposition party to the EU.
As a policy it will not win votes.
It assists the EU in its agenda.
It goes directly against UKIP’s principles in my opinon.
For the population size of this country we do not need devolved regional governments for good, effective, efficient government.

We have had a perfectly good system of democratically elected representatives meeting in a single parliament, and a regional system of local government as county and District councils. It worked perfectly well for hundreds of years – it could do so again – but only if, and when, we can get rid of the dead hand of the EU around the throat of the Westminster parliament which is presently throttling it.

Like everything the EU does: devolved government and regional assemblies are a chimera, a lie, a sop to the worst instincts of the public to pretend they have better democracy, and it bamboozles them into thinking they get better government whereas in reality they DO NOT.
The public fall for it every time as they are just stupid.

The EU is still making those 80% of all rules, regulations, laws and directives just the same – and there is nothing the regional devolved “governments” can do about it. “Devolved government” and Mickey-Mouse Regional Assemblies are just a sham of democracy. UKIP should – and rightly so – oppose them.

Douglas Denny.

YAWN!
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