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#0744* – UKIP Loses Another Councillor

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/02/2012

#0744* – UKIP Loses Another Councillor 
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UKIP Loses Another Councillor!
Just imagine the disaster if UKIP had ANY authority!

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talk about unfit for purpose – can you imagine a party that is so unprofessional that it supplies lists of its distribution membership freely, as shown by their crassly amateur, so called, party secretary!


Let us not forget UKIP has a track record of complete irresponsibility in data protection even being censured by The Data protection Commission through the courts!


It was after all UKIP that indulged in Cyber Bullying by posting a candidates confidential video on YouTube.


You will remember the lies and dishonesty and attempted cyber bullying to suppress the truth and intimidate by its press office, NEC members and even the lies of MEPs desperate to suppress the truth! NEC members such as Douglas Denny, Mick McGough or MEPs like Stuart Agnew, Graham Booth, Derek Clark, David Bannerman, Marta Andreasen etc.


Now we see once more the efforts of its leadership to once again force through changes to its constitution, crassly ill presented amateurishly ill written and once more trying desperately to eradicate democracy and concentrate POWER in the hands of one man.


Let us not forget that these efforts have already been voted down previously but be minded  UKIP is very much an integral part of The EU scam and like The EU makes its subjects vote and vote and vote again to get the result they ‘demand’!


You will also note for just how long some of its more senior members like Michael Harvey, David Nixon and the like have been trying to persuade the party to act ethically but with little result – you will remember David Nixon resigned almost a year ago but did not carry it through until now – so out of their tiny group of elected Councillors yet another has quit UKIP in disgust at their dishonesty and lack of democracy.


We all KNOW Steven Woolfe was parachuted in as lead candidate as a drinking buddy of Farage’s – The number one list candidate in London was elected by the members yet he has been bumped down to suit Farage!

The elected list, I am reliably informed by several individuals, was:

1st David Coburn
2nd Lawrence Webb
3rd Paul Oakley
4th Steven Woolfe
5th Helen Dixon
6th Elizabeth Jones

Is this what UKIP wishes for our country, rigged elections and selection processes overriding the democratic rights of the voters?

I have been promised a number of letters including resignation letters which I will publish if they take the factual position forward constructively towards a Clean-Up of UKIP to TRY to make it fit for purpose rather than an aid to The EU!

Just consider where the corruption of elections has led UKIP – it was Farage’s CHOICES like David Bannerman, Stuart Agnew (Thick as pig sh*t but loaded – to quote Farage), Ashley Moat parachuted in to raise Farage’s credibility, the liar and fraud Marta Andreasen, Paul Nuttall forcing out Gregg Beaman etc. etc. The list is as long as UKIP’s history and just as corrupt! 

You will also remember the esteem in which UKIP leadership hold their councillors from the belated and most perfunctory note of the untimely death of one of their few decent achievers Steve Povey and do note the fact that apart from a rather limp electoral circular they put no effort into retaining any of his seats despite having a willing candidate with public sympathy on his side as his son – UKIP lost EACH seat! 

Labour ex-minister and former Staffordshire Moorlands MP Charlotte Atkins won a district council seat from Ukip at Leek North on aswitch of more than 19% since last May.
Tory Neal Podmore gained Staffordshire’s Leek South division.
These two seats became vacant after the death of a Ukip councillor who represented both of them.

Analysis of six comparable results suggest a projected 2% nationwide Labour lead over Conservative, the same margin calculated in aBBC survey of last May’s council polls.

This week’s line-up based on five wards fought both times by all three major parties is: C 36.1%, Lab 34.5%, Lib Dem 19.3%.

RESULTS
Hampshire County – Winchester Southern Parishes:
C 1661, Lib Dem 1038, Ukip 133, Green 130, Lab 124. (June 2009 – C 2625, Lib Dem 1232, Ukip 557, Lab 139). C hold. Swing 5.2% C to Lib Dem.

Northamptonshire County – Towcester:
Lib Dem 1279, C 638, Ukip 124, BNP 66. (June 2009 – C 1648, Lib Dem 760, Lab 293). Lib Dem gain from C. Swing 31.6% C to Lib Dem.

South Lakeland District – Windermere Town:
Lib Dem 418, C 85, Lab50, Ukip 20. (May 2011 – Lib Dem 537, C 117, Lab 114). Lib Dem hold. Swing 1.7% C to Lib Dem.

South Northamptonshire District – Towcester Brook:
Lib Dem 774, C401, Ukip 129. (May 2011 – Three seats Lib Dem 857, C 831, Lib Dem 811,C 785, 753, Lib Dem 645, Ukip 266, 178). Lib Dem gain from C. Swing 13.6% C to Lib Dem.

Staffordshire County – Leek South:
C 725, Ukip 556, Lab 432, Lib Dem 419, Moorlands Democratic Alliance 336, Ind 192. (June 2009 – Ukip 1766, C 1355, Lib Dem 905, Lab 470, Green 323). C gain FROM Ukip. Swing 7.4% Ukip to C.

Staffordshire Moorlands District – Leek North:
Lab 514, Ukip 188,C 178, Moorlands Democratic Alliance 33, Lib Dem 24 . (May 2011 – Threeseats Ukip 694, Lab 657, 527, C 423, Ukip 336, Ind 277, C 275, 170). Lab gain from Ukip. Swing 19.1% Ukip to Lab.

Suffolk County – Kesgrave and Rushmere St Andrews:
C 1302, Lab 804, Lib Dem 514. (June 2009 – Two seats C 2821, 2799, Lib Dem 1426, 1378, Lab 689, 546). C hold. Swing 13.2% C to Lab.

Suffolk Coastal District – Kesgrave East:

C 531, Lab 241, Lib Dem194. (June 2011 – Three seats C 1405, 1390, 1343, Lab 704, 606, Lib Dem561, Green 542, Lib Dem 443). C hold. Swing 3.3% Lab to C.

From: MartinHarveyONR@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:39:41 -0500 (EST)
Cc: ;
Subject: Re: Constitution

Thanks for this David,
The PEPP ballot was conducted after proper debate and the real UKIP Party voted against it quite rightly. I did say before the PEPP debate that we should see the new Constitution before we voted on the PEPP Issue.
We are now in a situation where 90% of our members will not understand what it is all about when they vote. This is not good enough,
   Martin Harvey Chairman UKIP Broxbourne, member since 1995 or earler.
In a message dated 10/02/2012 20:02:23 GMT Standard Time, fongyphonics@hotmail.co.uk writes:
From: David Nixon

Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:02:04 +0000
To: Michael Greaves; Robert Snare; Angela Scriven; J Lesingham; Ann Rapnik; dmrsec@ukipberkshire.co.uk; S Martin; Mrs B Fairweather; R Ness; James McCulloch; Chris French; John Buckley; Tony Stone; A Sheehan; M Lyon; Michael Bedford; Steve Richards; r shanks; garreth evans; george_busybee@btinternet.com; J DICKER; steve harris; C Bridewell; Rose Lynden-Bell; christina latham; jill collin; Philip Pinto; Robert Cane; Celia Pilling; David M Black; Laurence Hughes; Steve Smith; Michael Wigley; Christopher Browne; I Davison; Jean Wisker; mark stroud; John Holt; Adrian Stevens; Victor Webb; R Ings; Gwendoline Girdwood; E Ashwell; Richard Squire; Mike; J Granata; Richard Crowder; Peter Lucas; M Day; Richard Scammell; P Collins Chairman; Dave Parker; Warwick Knowles; Philip Cork; ukipchristchurch@tiscali.co.uk; Jenny Knight; John baxter; Peter Jenkins; Lesley Kelly; ralph gay; Duncan Richardson; John Knight; richard stanton; Charles Robertson; elizabeth burton; Peter Smith; David Salmon; John Harvey; P Milverton; Stephanie McWilliam; Guy Parfitt; Anthony McIntyre; C Mozley; S Guppy; steve parker; C Allen; Dorothy Baker; Gaston Dezart; Ian Walsh; P Le Maistre; C Guyton; Alan James; arthurhamlins@talktalk.net; J Gulleford; Martin Harvey; Christopher Streatfield; Helene Davies; peter reeve; George Curtis; Andrew Smith; Susan Smith; rex parkinson-hare; Cllr John Barry; Margaret King; charles lawman; Janet Culley; lisa duffy; John Youles; P Grimes; F Fox; Evan Heasley; Leon Stedman; JOHN BUTCHER; Marion Mason; Kerry Smith; W Mountford; Renie Price; Michael Stone; IAN SMITH; P Lancaster Chairman; P Sheehan; P Rowe; P Hughes; John Rawles; R Allen; peter cope; Cilla Bethell; J White; John Galloway; S Lewis; J Mabbott; M Lynch; steve povey; M Harold; A Illsley; L Wragg; Brett Parsons; I gardner; derek bennett; Jill Seymour; alan sheath; george lawson; Mark Starr; Barry Hodgson; C Humphries; Michael Wrench; H Reed; roy hopwood; Hamish Howitt; Michael Owen; J Mallinson; Brian Jarvis; T Commis; M Bayliss; S Noble; Neil Miney; robert willescroft; P Griffiths; P Gaskell; Chris Cassidy; Gary Robinson; Peter Cuddy; Frederick McGlade; Marie McNulty; Alan Freeman Wigan; Marlene Waddington; W Jenner; Christine Diamond; wjohnbailey; a.p.pandya@lse.ac.uk; Martin Shelvey; M Watson; david coburn; Graham W. Mills; Maxine Spencer; Chisholm; James Bochsler; Philip Gordon; Vanessa Crichton; don ransome; C Swabey; David Rogerson; Peter Conquest; S Hassall; marilyn swain; Willem Veldhuizen; Nicholas Smith; m storier; A Hamilton; Jim Macarthur; Keith Marriott; Heather Ward; John Scutter; n robinson; B Pexton; S Hilson; jane collins; don ukip; J Upex; A Marsland; K Hordon; Peter Morgan; Nathan Clark Garbutt; Tim Veal; Tina Dowdall; Nigel James; Ian Bannister; Clive Easton; Gwyn Parry; Michael Squires; Barry Rogers; T Greaves; C Williams; F Wykes; NathanGill1@aol.com; margaret weatheritt; nigel coghill; Eric Wilson; D Cottrell; Alexis Fernandes; gordon parkin; martin bulmer; Henry Marshall; Richard Elvin; D Watters; G Norrie; P Adams; mark bekusch; Ross Durance; pete quick; Nathan Brittain; I Tyler; S Povey; C Lovatt; R Herbert; Ralph Berry; P Smith; I Tyres; K Sinclair; N Jukes; B Mahoney; J Lodder; B Hicks; Roger Fowkes
Cc: sjcrowther@btinternet.com; vote.jonathan@googlemail.com ;
Subject: RE: Constitution

When we have chosen candidates before and put them in order of preference for the E.U. elections along comes a person whom we have never heard of, who has never stood in an election for the party , who has never slogged round streets leafleting day after day, who was never a member of the party before the sudden parachuting in, etc.etc. to name but one, Kilroy-silk. I for one have had enough of this so called democratic party and am not rejoining. Borough Councill and Staffs County Councillor. David Nixon



Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:30:33 +0100


Subject: Constitution


From: Michael Greaves


<ukip.partysecretary@gmail.com>


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Dear Fellow UKIP members

Thank you so much for writing in with your observations on the constitution.

I respectfully disagree with your proposition and urge you to vote “YES” to this new document which is so important for the future of the Party.

The proposition made is inaccurate as the new Constitution will NOT change candidate selection procedures.  The candidate selection procedures will be the same whether or not the Constitution is passed.

The relevant Rules permitting a Constituency Association to select from the Approved List are now within the Party’s Rules of Procedure, which states:


B.5.1 It is the responsibility of branches to seek to nominate candidates for parliamentary and local elections within the branch area, acting in accordance with the rules laid down in Sections R,S,T,U and V of the Rules of Procedure.


S.15 Only applicants on the national approved list may apply to a branch or Constituency Association for an adoption/hustings meeting.


S.16 Adoption/hustings meetings shall be advertised so that all candidates on the Approved List have the right to apply for selection in any constituency.


S.17 Constituency Associations or branches which fail to select candidates within the timescale in the PPC Selection Procedure may forfeit the right to select their candidates, with the responsibility being undertaken by the region.


S.18 Where there is more than one applicant in a given constituency, an open hustings meeting must be held in accordance with the PPC Selection Procedure.


S.19 In this event, the choice of candidate shall be made through a ballot in accordance with the PPC Selection Procedure.

I suggest that these provisions make clear that the effect suggested is not in fact the reality.

Yours sincerely

Michael Greaves
Party Secretary

One must appreciate the irrefutable fact that UKIP leadership are ONLY interested in themselves and self enrichment using sock puppets as liars, cheats and cyber bullies as the only way they can retain office as clearly they do not do so on democratic principles or British values being in association with racists, anti Jewish, anti homosexual, Zionist scum of EU politics who advocate violence and murder as policy, gave words of succour to Anders Brevick subsequent to his vile xenophobic murder spree and as The EFD Group advocate EU membership and revision of the scam to suit their personal needs and greeds.


We even had the spectacle of Nigel Farage telling outright lies on National TV as he claimed to have fired Tom Wise and more recently his lies that UKIP had 2 female MEPs when it was he who was found guilty of abuse by the Courts in firing Nikki Sinclaire who to save face and curry favour for Stuart Wheeler’s money he has had to make overtures to try to get to rejoin the UKIP MEPs – This he has singularly FAILED to achieve in over a year of clearly implausible negotiations.


Imagine what UKIP would be like if they had ANY authority in Governance!


By way of support of the facts led in the article above I add:

Mike Nattrass MEP on the proposed changes:
UKIP MEMBERS

You will have had the proposed UKIP Constitution information and voting paper, with the magazine.

The newly proposed constitution takes power away from Branches and the Conference. it also moves back in favour of Pan European Parties.

There is one voice for and yet no counter proposal at all ……. and we are again being railroaded and given no time to talk about the issues.

Please consider it seriously before voting.

I shall vote NO.

Herewith some of the paragraphs worth looking at:-
 

3.3 and 3.4 open the door for pan european parties.

4.2.1 gives NEC carte blanche to introduce whatever they like.



4.3.d does this apply to Lord Pearson?



4.4.1 this allows the Party to keep Lord Pearson in the party ranks.



4.9 Yet another paragraph giving undefined power to the NEC.



6.3 deals with elections to the NEC but no mention of regional representation on the NEC.

7.1 gives the Leader the power to ‘give political direction….and the development of policies. It should be ‘assists in giving political direction’.



12.1.1 gives the NEC unlimited and undefined power concerning selection.


12.1.2 a clumsy way of preventing another Ashley Mote incident.


12.6.7.8 gives power to the NEC and away from the local constituency in
the selection of candidates.



12.11 this strengthens up any undertaking by prospective MEPs to belong to a ‘grouping’ But the make up of such a group is not defined (3.3. and 3.4. would allow for any group ‘subject to the right of the Leaderand the NEC jointly to decide…).


In other words UKIP MEPs can be forced to belong to another EFD or ID group along with those who are federalists and extremists.
Subject: Vote ‘No’ to the new Constitution
Date: 7 February 2012 17:37:15 GMT

Dear UKIP activists,



Under the new Constitution the selection of candidates for Euro elections and General elections remains with the NEC. Branch or ConstituencynAssociations may only select candidates for Local elections in their area.


I believe that UKIP will not flourish unless Regional and Branch committees have the right to select UKIP candidates for Euro and General elections. Therefore I am voting ‘No’ to the new Constitution.


This is NOT because I have been denied membership of the approved Party list – I have never applied, and have no plans to do so. It is because UKIP is in danger of becoming a fiefdom. We demand that the EU has democratic legitimacy, but deny local activists the most important task of all – the selection of a local candidate to represent their area. Regional committees should have the final decision on Euro candidates – Branch committees on General election candidates. This is not to deny the NEC the right to create an approved list of candidates, but the list must be advisory only.


Yours sincerely,
Charles Swabey


Branch Chairman
Central & South Derbyshire


From: vanessa [mailto:spice.girl@btinternet.com]


Sent: 08 February 2012 12:04
Cc: Dmrsec@Ukipberkshire. Co. Uk
Subject: New Constitution

You have probably received the latest “Independence” magazine with the new Constitution inside with your ballot papers to vote “yes” or “no”.  I have had a long chat to some people within UKIP and I have been persuaded to vote NO and I am urging you to do the same.



I have been alerted that there are clauses in the new constitution which make it easier for UKIP to join a Pan-European party and therefore be given a great deal of “our” money to help the EU cause.


Also the membership vote for the Assembly List was re-jigged so the first 2 voted to the top of the list were put further down.  I am not happy about this because this is not acceptable in a party purporting to be democratic. 


I do hope you will agree with this and vote NO to the new constitution.


Kind regards
Vanessa Crichton

Vanessa Crichton was the UKIP PPC for Hammersmith. It’s a constituency where Vanessa is also the Chairman of UKIP West London.  it is claimed: Vanessa Crichton has built up West London UKIP despite the obstacles the likes of Wiffen have put in her place.

You may also find this article of interest: CLICK HERE

If you want to read the recycling of previously rejected ideas voted down by the members – you will find it crassly over wordy and self important and reads like a document written by a failed third world law student now practicing behind a brass plate LLb Fld Bombay! But you may be bored enough to want to scan it so CLICK HERE

Such a pity UKIP has absolutely no idea of ethics, integrity or professionalism! As it keeps making abundantly clear.

Noting these facts and no doubt the utterly unprofessional total disregard of Farage’s placeman Michael Greaves in his desperate attempt to rebutt critics of the latest rewrite of UKIP Constitution in yet another attempt to legitimise what UKIP leadership already does when it rigs and fixes Party elections to suit themselves regardless of the wishes – even the votes of members!

I note Charles Swabey wrote again:
From: charles@myqualities.com
Subject: Say ‘No’ to the new Constitution
Date: 8 February 2012 15:05:24 GMT
To: ukip.partysecretary@gmail.com

 

Dear Party Secretary,

Thank you for your response. It would have been nice if the ‘Rules’ to which you refer had also been circulated to members.

However, as you know perfectly well mere ‘Rules of Procedure’ will always be inferior to the principal Constitutional document. If there is any conflict between the two, the Constitution will always prevail, as it so often does in the USA – where the Constitutional issue is always fought out in the final Court of Appeal.

Para B.5.1. of your Rules of Procedure allows branches to ‘nominate‘ candidates but not to decide. I believe that Regional Committees and Branches should have the ‘right to decide‘. Mere nomination to the NEC is a worthless prerogative for Regional and Branch committees because this Constitution transfers real powers of selection to the NEC.

I do not argue with your Paras S.15 to S.19 – but they make no difference to the central objection that the new Constitution cements the right of the NEC to determine who will be selected to represent UKIP in every region for Euro elections, and every constituency for Parliamentary and Local elections.

I regret to say that your response emphatically underlines my fears that UKIP Regional committees and Branch committees are no longer to be trusted to undertake the important role of selecting suitable candidates to represent the local community. Without trust you cannot expect the wholehearted support of grass root members to get behind their candidate. Without strong commited support at local level a candidate’s chance of election is dramatically impaired.

Yours sincerely,

Charles Swabey

Chairman
Central and South Derbyshire

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#0413* – of UKIP in HERTFORDSHIRE & The NEC

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/04/2011

#0413* – of UKIP in HERTFORDSHIRE & The NEC
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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of UKIP’s Meeting Last Saturday in HERTFORDSHIRE & The NEC Meeting on Monday!!

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Hi,
I wasn’t going to bother with a follow up to my posting CLICK HERE as I only expected about 30 people to attend, but with Robin Page attending as the notable speaker this dragged the numbers up a little and I gather about 40 are claimed to have attended.
As one attendee told me ‘It looked like a normal UKIP meeting, an undynamic audience of almost exclusively elderly folk the men, on this hot day, in jackets and ties with their overly patched silver haired ladies teased out in rows’!

It was also noted by another attendee that as ever UKIP learns little and had in misguided optimism hired a large hall that swamped the tiny audience making the meeting look more of a failure than 40 people would normally indicate for UKIP!

It was good of Robin, if misguided, to try to bolster Martin Harvey’s meeting but he studiously stayed away from telling the truth about UKIP, mostly featuring his views on population – gypsies and their Pykie pals!, before shooting off to enjoy the weather – leaving the audience somewhat bemused by his avoidance of the facts regarding UKIP – 
to leave Martin Harvey with his delusions that change can be effected in UKIP in tact.
A measure of just how on the pulse of the party Martin Harvey manages to keep was his utterly ridiculous outburst and abuse of Christopher Hudson for having left UKIP to join The Tories!

Where has poor old Martin been sleeping?


Christopher Hudson left UKIP when his membership came due for renewal two years ago. That he had never been prepared to stand against Tories during his service to UKIP or subsequently when he was Organiser for Ganley’s Pan EU Libertas Party!!

Bye the Bye – how come Martin Harvey didn’t notice Christopher was opposing UKIP having seen the light way back then!

Once Robin Page had spoken and left the meeting rather slid down hill and became yet more pointless as with the best will in the world – other than for his economic OPINIONS – who would cross the road to listen to the ‘dynamism’ of Tim Congdon or even more tedious Gerard Batten!

One has to feel sorry for the UKIP members with the clowns they have in their leadership team and its parasites. Liars, cheats, nebishes and low lifes almost without exception!
I note the following comments regarding UKIP NEC meeting later today:
  1. Default Tomorrow’s NEC

    Hopefully Steve Crowther has a lawyer at his elbow tomorrow and resists the efforts of Farage and Nuttall to push Crowther into the mess they are trying to offload onto him. No wonder Crwother is keen to bring back Nikki Sinclaire into full standing with the party.

    Meanwhile Batten and AN other is coming under pressure to leave the Farage group which would finish him off.

    Stuart Wheeler is oressing for all MEPs to make a contribution to the party out of their recently increased salaries.If Nuttall and Farage keep playing games with Wheeler,he will chuck it.


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    Hopefully Steve Crowther has a lawyer at his elbow tomorrow and resists the efforts of Farage and Nuttall .

    Ha Ha ex-member!

    Farage will totally dominate the partially evolved idiots he has appointed to the NEC. But of course Farage himself is a Fecking Ijeet. He may find himself screaming for financial help to fight his legal nightmares – as usual!

    I very much doubt Farage will attend the NEC as he will have his impramature all over it but as ever he will ensure his fingerprints can not be displayed.

    Farage will have set up his muppets and puppets to do his bidding and there are already indications of the way it will go leaked accidentally by fools like Mick McGough whose comments on Butcher’s UKIP controlled Forum run a closer second in stupidity to his comments on UKIP.org.UK.

    McGough repeatedly brings UKIP into disrepute as he does being their representative at the CIB and a regular hanger on at The Freedom Association. 

    Just WHO is there in UKIP leadership of ANY Gravitas, credibility or political nouse?? Sadly there seems to be absolutely no one of substance merely a few sound bites, many of which are completely out of control.

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    The idiotic party leadership truly are in a complete mess on this issue. If they had any sense what so ever they would be looking for a face saving retreat but no doubt they will keep on digging.

It is also noted that in this thread was the comment that Stuart Wheeler was expected to call on UKIP MEPs to show their belief in UKIP and maker substantial donations from their newly increased salaries.

Having read Stuart Wheeler’s book ‘A Crisis of Faith’ – I have a feeling he is heading for another! Little wonder that the UKIP controlled Forum Anthony Butcher owns has removed the posting to prevent the inconvenient truth that UKIP MEPs do NOT donate their money except to enhance their own PERSONAL profiles to seek renewed election!

Wake up folks – YOU are being conned by a bunch of two bit chavs.
There would seem to be absolutely no record of a donation by a UKIP MEP that was not out of PERSONAL interest to BUY gain!

Compare the records of ALL The UKIP MEPs with that of the INDEPENDENT MEP Nikki SINCLAIRE whose accounts are published showing the size and diversity of her donations from personal income – Note also that Sinclaire is personally funding the Nationwide Petition for an In/Out Referendum.

I wonder will Stuart Wheeler have the intelligence to realise he is being duped and the courage to admit it and walk away – I doubt it based on his track record, this man made his money as a professional gambler and chucked £5M at the Tories without ANY rational controls and then went on to loose over half of his fortune when called on to use his business acumen!!

Has Stuart Wheeler the integrity to act and admit yet another ‘Crisis of Trust’ when he realises he has yet again been taken for a fool?
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#0357* – Goodbye UKIP, Hello EFD!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/03/2011

#0357* – Goodbye UKIP, Hello EFD!
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is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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Goodbye UKIP, Hello EFD!
Nevermind – we hear Nikki SINCLAIRE has a 16 page colour News Letter currently due!
Paid from her salary we gather!
No doubt her transparent accounting will show the costs!

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Goodbye UKIP, Hello EFD!

The move to turn UKIP into a pan-European party continues.

And any doubters should simply read today’s email from the Chelmsford office:

To: ukipeastadmin@intamail.com
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Eastern Counties Newsletter

In a message dated 14/03/2011 10:18:45 GMT Standard Time, ukipeastadmin@intamail.com writes:

Dear All

Due to European Parliamentary rules the Eastern Counties Newsletter will now have a new format. The colour newsletter will include articles about the work of the MEPs and about the EU itself. We can no longer include party material in the actual newsletter.

However, a separate black and white risographed page will be included for branch events. If you would like any notices of meetings or branch events included in the next edition, can you please ensure that they are sent to my email address, lisabuckle@ukip.org, or by post to the Chelmsford office, by Friday 1st April 2011.

Many thanks,

Lisa Buckle

UK Independence Party
145 New London Road
Chelmsford
Essex
CM2 0QT

And this is what Martin Harvey – a leading UKIPPER in the East – had to say in his email response to Buckle:

I am amazed to find the East in such a state that it cannot fund a newsletter to its members who have put so much effort into campaigning to get two MEP’S elected, and also to have had such great success at last years General Election, and are already campaigning for local elections. If you go ahead and publish a newsletter confined ONLY to EU matters, all it will do would be to brainwash some members into thinking ‘Ever closer to the EU IDEAL’.

please scrap the idea and come up with something that is to do with UKIP as a National UK Party, but even more important something to do with the forthcoming Local Elections,

regards Martin Harvey.

P.S. Since when did UKIP have a MANIFESTO that committed us to follow EU Parliamentary Rules ?

End of emails.


Now you know why Agnew has been placing EFD adverts in the East Anglian press. See: LINK

UKIP could have easily continued to publish an Eastern Counties newsletter. The funds are available. Agnew and Bannerman have more than enough money to finance one!

To blame EU rules is a pathetic excuse. Do they really expect UKIPPERS to fall for that? Mr Harvey has every right to be angry in his email. UKIP is slowly morphing into a new pan-European party as per Farage’s instructions.

So why bother with boring local branch matters?

And thanks to Ms Buckle for confirming that UKIP is committed to obeying EU rules!

We must have missed that bit in the UKIP manifesto! 

Nevermind – we hear Nikki SINCLAIRE has a 16 page colour News Letter currently due!
Paid from her salary we gather!
No doubt her transparent accounting will show the costs!

When I received this message I believed it was worth publishing the same FACTS and spoke with Junius & Tim to ensure the maximum number of members and press were made aware of the betrayal of Britain by UKIP.

We checked The Manifesto and it is correct to say NO WHERE does it say anything about UKIP will obey EU rules to help it grow!

Even Tom Wise UKIP MEP produced coloured News Letters at his expense in UKIP’s name and mailed out to UKIP members until he went to prison for his theft of public money!

I’m sure Tory Central Office could provide another PR company to do something on a professional basis for Agnew & Bannerman and produce a Newsletter as well. 
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#118* – The Betrayal of the Branches, The Members & Democracy (01)

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/11/2008

#118* – The Betrayal of the Branches, The Members & Democracy (01)

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip’s LEADERS BETRAYAL OF BRANCHES, MEMBERS & DEMOCRACY?

Hi,

This meeting called by Branch Chairman Martin Harvey, who I understand unequivocally confirmed that his associate Michael McGough who stood in the farcical selection scam corruptly orchestrated by EUkip’s leadership based on lies and dishonesty – Michael McGough clearly claimed in his election statement that he was the elected PPC for EUkip in Harlow which is a lie he failed both to appologise for and also to correct.

The notice of the meeting called by Martin Harvey in the Eastern Region was widely known and attended by around 25 people, I understand, however there were 21 eligible voters representing 21 different Constituencies.

The meeting was civil, well mannered, well organised and I understand well chaired

(not a bit like an NEC meeting then!)

The subject matter was I understand debated and a form of wording agreed for a clear message to EUkip’s leadership and NEC.

This has subsequently been named ‘The Newmarket Declaration’ and I have fortunately been supplied with a copy, together with a covering note, by a friend of democracy with access to a relevant EUkip computer.

I do hope that the friends of UKIP and the intentions of the Grass Roots of the party to campaign to leave the EU are making sure that they not only delete the copy of the eMail to my associate which is forwarded to me are removed from the >SENTDeleted< box – this will further make it difficult for the corrupt and venal leadership, NEC and their lakeys from confirming who are my intermediaries and also which members are supplying me direct from the EU.

Just a warniong as the level of lies being spread around about me are escallating to protect the guilty one must assume – even the Foul Mouthed slut Annabelle Fuller surfaced again this evening bobbing to the surface like something unwholesome in a septic tank.

I undersatand she is likely to be hauled in for questioning for the criminal breech of The Data Protection Act – implausible as her nonsense about taxi drivers and Morocco seemed to all but Wittaker who ill advisedly signed the letter – I wonder when he is asked to sign his witness statement in his defence as the then Chairman whether he will be as happy to attest to the version of events he put his name to originally.

I digress a little.

To return to ‘The Newmarket Declaration’:
I append a copy below Martin Harvey’s polite request to the NEC members and Farage’s puppet chair – frequently to be sat upon no doubt!

Make of it what you will and when the answer comes to hand I will publish that also.

—– Original Message —–

From: MartinHarveyONR@aol.com
To: ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk ; shawforddavid@hotmail.com ; alanbown@btinternet.com ; del1young@yahoo.co.uk ; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com ; eric.edmond@tiscali.co.uk ; eric_edmond@hotmail.com

Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:21 PM
Subject: UKIP 2008.

Dear Mr Nuttall, and NEC members,

Last Saturday 27th September, there was a meeting in Newmarket of UKIP Activists from the Eastern Counties, chaired by myself, Martin Harvey. I am chairman of the Broxbourne and Harlow UKIP branch.

The agenda was a positive one to do with campaigning for maximum effect at all elections. After the first two agenda items had been completed, I realised that the problems within the Party were dominating the discussion, and a vote was taken that determined that the problems be debated in order to clear the air so that usual business could continue.

The ensuing debate produced a declaration that received unanimous support from the meeting, and I set out that declaration below.
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The Newmarket Declaration.

At a meeting of Eastern Counties Branch Chairmen representing twenty one Constituencies, Branch Officers and Members, at Newmarket on 27th September 2008,
The following points were resolved;

The Eastern Counties regional committee is constituted contrary to its own binding rules, therefore its decisions since its inception, including the MEP selection process, have been and `are unlawful.

The dissolution of the existing committee and the establishment of a new committee in accordance with UKIP rules, be effected forthwith.

That such election be overseen by an impartial independent body.

We note seriously the grave reservations of Piers Merchant, in his official capacity as official returning Officer about the conduct of the Eastern Counties Selection Proceedures.
Newmarket 27th September 2008.

Over a month later and after an NEC meeting EUkip’s sordid claque in leadership have NOT responded but I do hear that there is likely to be expulsion from the party of some who signed the document!

You will appreciate that Nigel Farage & his sordid claque of low lifes orchestrated their ‘Reichstag Fire’ moment at the NEC on the third and are currently following the example of Adolf Hitler this event has given rise to their equivallent of an ‘Enabling Act’ the achievement of which has been celebrated by several of the plotters by way of ‘washail’ and I understand that a celebratory dinner is on the cards as the plot rolls forward.

Already there have been limited Kangaroo Courts and ambush procedures – these have been reliant on abuse of the spirit of the Constitution – one is surprised as a Jew Michael Zucherman being a Practicing Solicitor (at the moment!) has been happy and enthusiastic in his persuit of this plot in the position of Party Secretary – a position in which he is woefully in remiss of duty – it would seem his orgasmic salivations at the very scent of rising up the prospective MEP list if he can engineer the ousting of Gerard Button & Ralp Attkinson during the ‘Kristall Nacht’ period has overcome him.

We understand that there will be a period of flagrant abuse of the residual constitution that was so evicerated by the inept OR dishonest actions of Michael Zucherman, already the Disciplinary Committee would seem to have been disenfranchised! Next no doubt the full benefits of the ‘Reichstag Fire’ moment will be exploited and the Constitution itself subsumed by the new dictatorial powers of the elite!

Draw your own conclusions since YOUR morality is a matter for me – however I have no need of Polls to tell me how to act with integrity, in a moral, fair and decent way. I stand by my morality and my judgement.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

MAY I SUGGEST – since there is no political party of repute advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

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