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Hi,
minded of Ukip’s relationship with Gregory Lauder Frost & various extremist individuals I include this article & related corespondence on this website below.
Racist Bigots BANNED By Facebook
These are trying times for the Traditional Britain Group. Shunned by so many mainstream politicians after Jacob Rees Mogg was rightly castigated for appearing at their annual gathering, ridiculed over their head man Gregory “Lauder” Frost being exposed as a fraud for claiming to be 100% British when in fact he is an Australian immigrant, the last thing they needed was to fall foul of simple social media terms and conditions.
He’s not a Lauder. He’s not even a very naughty boy
But, sad to say, that is exactly what has happened to TBG. Facebook has decided that they can get along fine without this motley band of bigots and has slapped a 30 day ban on them. And rather than taking their punishment like good honest Brits (or, in the case of plain Greg Frost, pretend Brits) and learn from their experience, TBG has decided to kick off big time about being pushed around by these ghastly colonials.“Facebook has today taken down the main Traditional Britain Group page for the second time and banned at least four page editors as well, without giving any reason or allowing any further appeal. Both occasions occurred when the page was just short of 50,000 ‘likes’. Everyone should be concerned by this gross violation of the fundamental right to freedom of speech” they protest. FREEZE PEACH! It’s about FREEZE PEACH!There was more. Rather a lot more. “This follows a pattern by Facebook of not following its own declared processes to try to shield its clearly politically-driven tactics. The page was continually removed for instance when posts became too popular using the catch-all of ‘standards’ infractions and reinstated days later after ‘review’. But these notifications never indicated any infringing posts, removed anything, nor gave any individual admin penalties”.Waaah! Snot fair! And more: “Unusually of late Facebook’s tactics have been ‘upgraded’. They now appear to be punishing multiple admins for a phantom post by an individual admin, for a period of up to a month, seemingly to seek to mothball the page. Incredibly these charlatans have recently declared that the Traditional Britain Group logo (our traditional English/British lion symbol) went against Facebook’s ‘standards’“.They have? Why, the audacity! And guess what? “Using this ancient heraldic device as a means of removing the page, is a further outrage and shows the bankrupt moral atmosphere that prevails at Facebook and underlines that they will use any excuse to disrupt pages they politically disagree with. If it is not this, then clearly, once again, they have banned on a pure phantasm post that never existed”.Etcetera etcetera etcetera, I shall write to the Times about this, I tell you! Finally came the inevitable empty threat: “It also makes sense to evaluate some ‘class action’ type response, that will force legal document disclosure from them”. Yeah, right. Greg Frost from Newcastle, NSW, and his not really upmarket B&B in the Scottish Borders won’t be funding a legal action any time soon. He’s all wind and piss.The real – and welcome – news here is that Facebook has begun to clamp down on the bigots. For so long, those turfed off Twitter could take comfort in the fact that Facebook would still allow them to operate. Not any more.
The time of bigotry on Facebook was for a time, but not for all time. Rejoice!
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Here is a copy of correspondence I had with Gregory Lauder Frost some years ago having published details of his prison sentence for having been found guilty of steeling a substantial amount of money from his employers – The NHS!
Sat 29/09/2012, 23:06
Dear Mr Lance-Watkins,I understand that in my absence my wife has seen your correspondence. She has deleted her rsponse so I hope that it was not offensive.You do not have my consent to put up all over the internet my private correspondence by email or otherwise.All I can say is that repeating a libel or a smear is not a defence in court. Journalists copy each other and you have copied them. That is not a defence. Also, I do not have to deconstruct with arguments everything you have put up on the world wide web courtesey of your website because I do not feel that I am in the wrong in 2012. You are the accuser and it you who will have to present your very clear evidence when the day comes. Telling the judge it was in “The Guardian” or in “Searchlight” etc., will be dismissed out of hand.I have asked you to remove references to a court case of 20 years ago which is causing me and my family unnecessary and cruel difficulties.
Your personal views of me, whom you don’t know, are clearly political and I cannot ask you not to address anything political I may have said now or 20 years ago.However the very personal attacks upon me and the attempt to destroy 20 years of the reconstruction of my life I can and will take action against as they are evil and wrong.Thank you.Gregory Lauder-Frost.
Sat 29/09/2012, 13:44 Gregory Lauder-Frost <lauderfrost@btinternet.com>
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
I am glad to note you are taking my suggestion seriously.
That you saw my efforts to assist you, in the light of your threatening and abusive letter to me, as ‘vicious’ is clearly a figment of your imagination.
I presume from your comment you will permit your solicitor to answer my questions and address the matter of naming the individuals and publications that you define as ‘Marxist, and having published fantasies in respect of your criminal activities, for which I believe you were sentenced to prison, be that yesterday or 20 years ago, when in a position of trust as an adult.
Do I take it you will now cease harassing me for having reiterated facts published about you in the public domain both on the internet and in the mainstream media?
Do ensure you inform your solicitor that I have apologised for any inaccuracies I may have inadvertently reiterated on my blogs, and have asked you to be specific and identify them so that they can be corrected in the light of the substantiation you can provide.
I am sure you will also point out to your solicitor that I have offered you a right of reply also.
You have failed to address my offer to publish our correspondence so that your views and claims are given a fair airing – I shall therefore assume that you wish me to go ahead.
That you now claim that 99.5% of the facts placed on the internet are placed there by some nebulous organisation you define as ‘The Left’ and seem to have dropped your apparent claim of being the victim of ‘Marxists’ is this due to the fact that you were unable to identify any ‘Marxists’ who had written about you?
I trust your solicitor will be able to provide the facts related to your having silenced said reporters, be they ‘Marxist’ or ‘The Left’, and identifying them so as to protect you from being seen as an abusive bully, in the gratuitous nature of your attack on me, especially in the light of my efforts to assist you – inspite of the unpleasant nature of your letters to me.
I understand from your final sentence that your claim is that although what I published was in the public domain it was based on your criminality 20 years ago, and you accuse me of not addressing that fact, which of course is untrue as I stated that I believed that criminality placed in the public domain, related to an adult, should of course be considered a matter of public record, just as one is judged in many ways by ones associates.
I do admit I find myself in the fortunate position that I have never done anything of any consequence that would bring shame, or even embarrassment, to my family and have never stolen from my employers or received a custodial sentence for criminality. Interestingly despite the many lies about me published on the internet, which are a matter of record, I am unconcerned as despite the dishonesty of those who seek to defame me I have NEVER been shown to have lied or wittingly misled anyone. My blogs are always open to correction, if I have made a mistake, and I have always offered a right of reply – that some low lifes seek to try to defame me and have, in the case of Gerard Batten, Derek Clark, Tom Wise, Mark Croucher and others lied to the police and other authorities to try to defame me, and seemingly suppress the truth and seek enrichment by their dishonesty is also a matter of record yet it has been shown and proven that their claims are dishonest.
Be assured that I wish you no harm and merely report your actions over the years as published widely in the public domain – IF you have taken action to suppress these matters as they are untrue, perhaps you can show in what way and explain why you have failed – IF that is the case you can count on such assistance as I can give in righting what you claim to be a gross and dishonest wrong against you. Frankly from your attitude to date I incline to believe you are your own worst enemy and have made more of your criminality than would otherwise have been the case, causing continuous attention to your own lack of ethicality.
That you would seem to confirm that my postings on the internet were correct, and relate to your views and integrity, when so ere that may have been, what exactly is your problem and perhaps I can address it and assist you, inspite of your bullying and hectoring implied threats.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
Sent: 29 September 2012 10:58
To: Greg Lance-Watkins
Subject: Re: Your comments about me
Thank you. I am sending this vicious letter to my solicitor.Could I just add that never ever have I been engaged in “race-hatred” and there is no evidence for that. I was, as Secretary of the Conservative Monday Club until 1992, responsible for putting forward their policies on mass immigration to which we were opposed. There is a fundamental difference. 99.5% of everything on the internet has been placed there by The Left. Naturally it is designed to place me in a bad light.You still fail to address the fact that all this was 20 years ago and has no relevance to 2012 whatsoever.Gregory Lauder-Frost.
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
thank you for your inquiry.
Firstly you have NOT previously written to me in the terms you claim.
You did once write to me, in a more than somewhat ill mannered and arrogant manner, demanding that I should provide you with the details of a web site over which I have no control and in which I have no material interest, though the facts it publishes would seem to be consistently accurate and both informed and well substantiated.
A quick viewing of the internet shows that your actions may well have brought shame on your family. Trying to make the blame for your family’s embarrassment; due to the fact that you were sentenced to prison for financial crimes and would seem to promote views that would seem to be based on race hatred and prejudice, as widely reported; is hardly my fault.
You might care to compare your criminal actions with my collation of public domain facts as published if it gives you some sort of sick comfort, by all means, it is a free world.
I will happily publish your substantive corrections and a commensurate apology for having reiterated the facts as widely published in the public domain if you wish, as I do everything I reasonably can, and often more, to ensure my various postings are true and as accurate as I can reasonably make them.
You gratuitously accuse me of being ‘exceptionally evil’ as you hypocritically lie to mislead in your letter and overlook that your ire would seem to be falsely based on my reporting of your widely reported criminality.
I also note the many entries you are associated with on the internet and also web sites where your prejudices and apparent xenophobic racism is more than apparent, yet you seek to berate me – how dare you you hate filled grubby little man!
Please be so good as to supply details of the ‘filth’ and ‘fantasies’ and identify the ‘Marxist’ journalists and the publications for which they work so that we can together bring to account those you claim to be dishonest Marxists by name. Please also advise what action you have taken against these individuals and thwe main stream media for whom they work as otherwise it will look as if you live down to expectation and seek to bully, threaten and abuse private individuals for reporting the facts published by others.
I repeat that I am happy to publish your reasonable demands for correction, where you are willing and able to show that you have taken action and won against the sources I have quoted who published the facts long ago and you have seemingly failed to address, if I have in any way misled anyone or acted unfairly please accept my apologise.
Please be so good as to ensure you list the errors of fact and on which blogs you believe the correction should be published.
I take it that as a first step publication of our correspondence might go some way to assist in ape your very clear threat, which I accept in the spirit of dishonesty and arrogance in which you seemingly issued it. If I have misunderstood your unpleasant little rant do let me know and accept my apologies – as I have said I merely seek accuracy and I am sure you would agree with me that any criminality should be and is a matter of public record, just as any form of race hatred or prejudice based upon race, colour or creed.
I trust I can count on your apology for the tone of your abuse and your full co-operation in the aims of my blog as stated.
If you wish do pass this letter to your solicitor so that he can more competently advise you.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
From: Gregory Lauder-Frost [lauderfrost@btinternet.com]
Sent: 28 September 2012 13:48
To: Greg Lance-Watkins
Subject: Your comments about me
I wrote to you asking you to remove the very personal details about the court case 20 years ago, overturned by Judicial Review. You include lots of filth and fantasy stories in these reports by Marxist journalists. You have refused to do that.Why you feel it is necessary to put this event of 20 years ago all over the internet and to make my children and my wife pariahs in society and at school I do not know. It is a truly shocking and despicable thing for anyone to do. I can only conclude that you must be an exceptionally evil individual.I could understand it if you wished to attack my personal views and opinions. But what I cannot understand is why you are descending into the gutter with your very personal attacks on the world-wide internet. What have I ever done to you?I am now reluctantly going to accept my solicitor’s advice and sue you for libel.
Gregory Lauder-Frost.
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Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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