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#0748* – The UKIP Civil War continues with Tim Condon etc.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/02/2012

#0748* – The UKIP Civil War continues with Tim Condon etc.
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The UKIP Civil War continues with Prof. Tim Condon one time UKIP Leadership contender, ‘insider’ and member!

Michael Foulston, UKIP Branch Chairman 

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yet further proof that UKIP in its present state is clearly unfit for purpose which as some with long memories will remember was to actively work to Leave-The-EU – NOT just to function as a cult for the enrichment of a small clique of self serving nere do wells and utter incompetents supported by a claque of liars, rogues and cheats seeking preferment bribes and crumbs from the EU Gravy Train!

Many of who are seriously out of control whether using their own names, having no reputation or self respect to defend like Mick McGough NEC, Annabelle Fuller PR, Marta Andreasen  MEP, Gawain Towler PR, David Bannerman MEP,Douglas Denny NEC, Paul Nuttall MEP, Peter Reeve Regional Organiser, Stuart Gulleford, Derek Clark MEP, John Ison, Gerard Batten MEP, Mark Croucher, Stuart Agnew MEP, Stuart Parr, Godfrey Bloom MEP and the like or the small army of sock puppets too ashamed to use their own names to peddle their own particular brand of filth like Skeptyk, Independent UKIP, SDP, Gothmog, Stathan and the like!

Well respected National Economist, broadcaster and University Professor Tim Condon makes it yet again clear that UKIP in its present form is unfit for purpose, riven with squabbling factions all seeking their own place on the gravy train as they thus aid and abet The EU and its undemocratic, profligate and malign institutions and ambitions.

Dear fellow members of UKIP
(and others concerned about the UK’s relationship with the EU),

Members of the UK Independence Party are being asked to vote for a new Constitution. It is very important that – in the run-up to the 2014 European elections and the 2015 general election – UKIP’s members agree to and respect their party Constitution, and that the Constitution itself be clearly written and legally unambiguous. The present Conservative-LibDem coalition government is mediocre and unconvincing, as well as being essentially Europhile.


These are ideal conditions for minority parties to pick up protest votes. UKIP ought to top the poll in the 2014 European elections and at least to double its share in the next general election (i.e., to reach at least 6% in the national vote).


But – as far as possible – UKIP must concentrate on “outfighting” (fighting our enemies), not “infighting” (fighting each other).

Unhappily, many influential members – including, for example, Mike Nattrass MEP and several branch chairmen – are concerned about the contents of the new Constitution. Last year the party had a major debate about its attitude towards pan-European political parties. I took an active role in that debate and helped put together some of the key information on the meaning of PEPPs.


I was delighted that – after an open, democratic and occasionally quite fierce debate – the party’s members voted by more than two to one that UKIP must not become associated with a PEPP.

 The current concerns about the Constitution focus on two issues,
          the possibility that, under clause 3.4 of the proposed Constitution, the Leader and the National Executive Committee could override last year’s PEPP vote and take the party, and its MEPs, into a PEPP, and
          the selection of candidates for elections.

I am not in this e-mail going to cover the second of these. However, I do feel very strongly that the party membership’s opposition to a PEPP must be respected by the Leader and the NEC. I have therefore written the following Open Letter to Nigel Farage and asked him to reassure members.

Will Nigel give us a clear and definite commitment that, while he is Leader, UKIP will have nothing to do – no connection whatsoever – with a pan-European political party, a structure which – as everyone knows – is a creation of the EU and a bribe from the European Parliament to MEPs? If Nigel can give us that commitment, I will support the new Constitution.

The Open Letter appears below:

Open Letter to Nigel Farage MEP, Leader of the UK Independence Party

Dear Nigel,                                                                                                                                              12th February, 2012
Several party members have written to me voicing their concern about the proposed new Constitution. Some have sought my opinion on the Constitution and asked for my recommendation about how they should vote. One of their main concerns relates to clause 3.4 which reads,
The Party may cooperate with other like-minded democratic parties, institutions and organisations for any purposes which are wholly consistent with its objectives, whether such be in the United Kingdom or elsewhere for such time and to such an extent as the Leader and the NEC deem necessary and expedient in order to advance the Party’s objectives.
A commonly-held view is that this clause would allow the Leader and the NEC to form an association between, on the one hand, the Party and its MEPs, and, on the other, a pan-European political party established under the European Parliament’s auspices.
We perhaps do not need to remind ourselves that the UK Independence Party had a major intra-party debate last year about a possible association between it and a pan-European political party. That debate took up time and energy. I was myself on the panel of speakers opposed to a PEPP relationship and spoke to three “hustings”-type meetings.

I was delighted that the membership voted by a decisive margin of just over two to one that UKIP should not become associated with a PEPP. I was also sorry and disappointed when, late in the campaign, you supported in an article in Independence a link between UKIP and a PEPP. I was sorry and disappointed not least because in January 2004 you had said that UKIP was “opposed on principle to the idea of state funding of political parties, either nationally or at the European level. (The italics are mine.)

You have frequently expressed your dismay about the lack of democracy in the European Union. I have admired your speeches and interventions in the European Parliament. I agree with you 100% that the un-democratic and centralizing direction of travel in the European Union must be deplored. But consistency then demands that UKIP conduct itself in a fully democratic spirit. If we deplore the un-democratic and centralizing direction of travel in the EU, surely UKIP itself must be a model of democracy.  
I might myself be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on clause 3.4, but several party members are unhappy. Accompanying this letter is another, from Michael Foulston, chairman of the Mole Valley and Epsom branch, to his branch members. The worries set out in that letter seem to me to be very understandable.
I now come to the crux of the matter. Will you, during your period as UKIP Leader, respect the result of the democratic 2011vote on the pan-European political party issue? More precisely, will you given a clear and definite commitment that you will discourage and prevent any association between, on the one hand, UKIP and its MEPs, and, on the other, a pan-European political party established under the auspices of the European Parliament? As we both know, such pan-European political parties are funded from the European Parliament’s budget, and its officials check and decide the compatibility of such expenditure with the EU’s wider aims. Those aims are totally at variance with UKIP’s.
If you give a clear, definite commitment that you will stop an association between UKIP and a PEPP, I will myself vote ‘Yes’ to the Constitution and I will recommend to others that they do the same; if you cannot give such a commitment, I will vote ‘No’ and recommend to others that they also vote ‘No’. Time is pressing, and I would appreciate your early reply. If I have not heard from you by Friday, 17th February, I will be voting ‘No’.  (Let me note that I have little doubt that the Constitution will be voted through, whatever the outcome of this exchange between us. At any rate, if UKIP does under your leadership link up with a pan-European party, party members will know where you stand.) I look forward to your reply.
Yours sincerely,
Professor Tim Congdon CBE
Economics Spokesman, UK Independence Party
Runner-up in the 2010 UKIP leadership election

  

Also attached below is a letter from Michael Foulston, Chairman of the Mole Valley and Epsom branch, to his members. It is a good example of the worries being expressed by UKIP activists about the Constitution.  

I agree with every word and hope that the letter has wide circulation throughout the party. Nigel Farage must give us an unbreakable commitment that UKIP will not – repeat, not – become associated with a pan-European political party.

With best wishes,  
 Tim Congdon


Here is the letter from Michael Foulston, Chairman of the Mole Valley and Epsom branch, to his members:

Michael Foulston stood for UKIP in Dorking South where he received 1/10th. as many votes as the elected winner with 141 vote which sadly was similar to most of UKIP members who stood unled and unguided by the unfit for purpose leadership! 

Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:26:42 +0000
From: m.foulston@btinternet.com
Subject: UK INDEPENDENCE PARTY
To: m.foulston@btinternet.com
To all members of the Mole Valley + Epsom UK Independence Party (plus copy toToby Micklethwaite and Roger Bird)
Dear Member
You should have by now received a copy of thenew draft party constitution on pages 11-14 of the party’s magazine Independence. I hope that you willtake the opportunity to read through this proposed change and vote.
My reason for writing to you about this matteris that having discussed it with your branch secretary Bob Cane and branchtreasurer Peter Lindsay, I find that we do share some concerns. In particular,we feel it is regrettable that there has been no consultation period allowedand members are being asked to vote Yes or No to the whole document as itstands.
Our objections relate in particular to paragraph3.4 of the draft constitution which states:-
3.4 The Party mayco-operate with other like-minded democratic parties, institutions and organisationsfor any purposes which are wholly consistent with its objectives, whether suchbe in the United Kingdomor elsewhere for such time and to such extent as the Leader and the NECmay deem necessary and expedient in order to advance the Party’s objectives.
You will probably recall that the Party spentmuch time and trouble last summer because of the wish of certain MEPs to join aPan-European Party. That was firmly vetoed by the membership by a vote of 5161to 2535 on a 49·2 per cent turnout.
Bob, Peter and I are anxious to ensure that weshould do all we can to ensure that the Party is not closely associated orgrouped with other European parties which are at variance with the principlesof UKIP. That paragraph as it stands is far too widely drawn and could beinterpreted as an “enabling” clause which might allow just the sort ofentanglement which was rejected last year. We would like this aspect of thedocument to be clarified, expanded and much more closely defined.
Obviously, each member must vote as he or shesees fit – and, indeed, I hope you will participate in the vote. However, as itcurrently stands, I am personally voting against this new constitution as areBob and Peter.
Regards
Michael Foulston
Chairman, Mole Valley + Epsom UK Independence Party

If you wish to check the veracity of this letter for yourself having been conned by one of the UKIP sock puppets that this blog EVER publishes other than FACTS and the Truth, with clearly demarkated opinion and views then do by all means confirm the facts with Tim Condon whose contact data is readily available or with Michael Foulston who publishes his own contact data as follows:

Michael Foulston

m.foulston@btinternet.com

01306 882126

 Loth as I am to quote that vile specimen of humanity Tony Blair, war criminal traitor, and self serving self enriching liar ‘Time for a change’ – to be fair he was also only interested in himself and self enrichment regardless of the damage he did to Britain seemingly like UKIP leadership and its claque as they work so hard to support The EU which is sad when you think of the huge number of decent but rather gullible, well meaning but easily conned UKIP members at large!
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#0521* – The Cancer That Is UKIP WILL BE its nemisis unless radical action is taken

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/05/2011

#0521* – The Cancer That Is UKIP WILL BE its nemisis unless radical action is taken
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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The Cancer That Is UKIP Leadership Claque WILL BE its nemisis unless radical action is taken to incise and cut it out!
The subsequent treatment may even then prove fatal but without the radical treatment and risk taking UKIP WILL DIE!

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The cry within UKIP would seem to be what if Nigel Farage leaves or for that matter what if Nigel Farage doesn’t leave – Not an unreasonable question just at the moment as Nigel Farage has made himself indispensible so as to hold the party to ransom – who can blame him in view of the weak kneed stupidity of so many in UKIP.
True there is no visible leader but one thing has been proven, exactly as I predicted it many years ago – Nigel Farage was and could still have been a good defacto leader but ONLY if he had the firm hand of someone of probity with leadership skills firmly keeping their hand on his shoulder and explaining ethics, morality and Officer Qualities to him.

As I predicted: Nigel Farage as UKIP’s greatest asset was also weak and insecure and thus UKIP’s greatest liability – a competent speaker and he had his 4 or so speeches fine tuned and interchangeable if they were not meeting with the right results – a personable chappie and largely clubable in the left wing meilleur of such as The BBC willing to cross continents at other peoples expense for the opening of an envelope or the opportunity to campaign – the number of tangental launches he has cooked up it seems ANY cause will do as long as he can feed off the ‘Lime Light’.

For all Nigel Farage’s claims of City experience it would seem that he did not learn the fundamental of The M&A business that is the core of the City he remained on the periphery gambling as a barrow boy with other people’s money!

A serious stint in M&A would have taught him the first thing to do in any M or A is to seek out the indispensible man and remove him with his claque (cohort) as they will foment problems for the new board!

So what about UKIP I hear so many people saying – we note that there is no talent in UKIP to commence serious discusion as the claque has grown and permeated the upper echelons of the party like the very worst of cancers – That without radical treatment UKIP is finished there would seem to be little doubt but even with radical treatment, as with any cancer, the treatment may kill the patient before it kills the cancer.


That is Life’s Roller Coaster – The razor Blade of life we all slide down!

So what MAY be the answer?

I mailed out the core of this several days ago:

Simples:

Medicine and/or treatment is rarely pleasant for all and rarely comes without differing opinions but SOMEONE has to make the first move and be prepared to be shown to be wrong!
EVERY SINGLE ‘e’Mail I receive to this attempt to save UKIP and make it fit for purpose will be published on this blog WITHOUT attribution if you clearly state your name and contact details including land line. I will NOT consider publishing any which contain foul language, abuse or that do NOT provide identity and details.

I WILL publish the identity of anyone who abuses these simple rules of manners if I choose to!

Draw up a list of individuals and clearly state that unless UKIP places an interim leader from outside of the corrupt parasites and Nigel Farage agrees to disassociate himself from ALL leadership manipulations and fire ALL personal hirings and REMAIN as a spokesman clearly answerable to the new leader THEN they will withdraw any and all support for the present corrupt regime and actively and publicly campaign for removal of UKIP leadership – The NEC and all the parasites and paid praise singers, and IMMEDIATE withdrawal from EFD & ANY PEPP.

Dates: 
for implementation 7 days from presentation of signatures – 
after 7 days publish the ultimatum 
with a 7 Days warning of implementation – 
That gives 7 days to get wording and signatures (start over the Bankholiday), 
7 days whilst it is lodged with each MEP & NEC member,
then go public and implement after 21 days total!

I Suggest considering an interim joint leadership committee (in no particular order):

Dr. David Abbott,

Dr. Eric Edmond,

Nikki Sinclaire MEP
Prof. Tim Congdon

Trevor Colman MEP

Niall Warry

Roger Knapman MEP

Mike Nattrass

EACH member to select an alternative + one named confidential advisor.

ALL decisions to bear ALL signatures based upon 5 votes or more (clear majority decisions).
You need only open several of the Tags and links at the top of this blog and the links in The >Right SideBar< to realise that more thought has gone ito the solutions than ever went into the exposure of corruption in UKIP – follow the many links and TRY to think with a 'Blue Sky' open mind.
Study the suggestions that are presented at Independent Leave-The-EU Alliance 
Then consider the details of ‘Referism‘ and start to come up with your own solutions
– by all means squabble over who I have suggested as the interim committee but at least YOU know these people can be trusted not to be the puppets of the old failed claque of corrupt leadership and its parasites that have – as I predicted all those years ago when I told Nigel directly that IF he ever took the leadership it would probably lead to divisive destruction of the party and his own destruction – It would be hard to claim I have not been proven right by both time and facts.

Good Luck – for you sure will need it as erradicating a cancer is a dangerous game 😉

Regards,

Greg L-W.

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#0465* – WITHER UKIP – Now It Is Shown To Have Withered!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/05/2011

#0465* – WITHER UKIP – Now It Is Shown To Have Withered!

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The Winners Of The Election!

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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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WITHER UKIP – Now It Has Been Irrefutably Shown To Have Withered!

Nothing shows the failure of UKIP more clearly than its abject failure in elections time and again!

UKIP has been offered the opportunity to be elected in around 19,500 seats after 18 years it still has less than 30 individuals elected!

This can ONLY be seen as total and abject failure considering the popularity of their only plausible message Leave-The-EU!

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Now that the utterly predictable debacle of UKIP’s election results are known what must the EUrorealist movement that espouses Leave-The-EU do?

Results which in every detail lived down to my pragmatic prediction with NO significant gains, where Farage stated clearly that one seat or more was likely in the Welsh EU Council (Clearly a ridiculous expectation) – 2 targeted seats at Stormont (again no likelihood or evidence), a gain of around 24 Councillors – on what feedback was that even possible?

Canute had the wisdom to appreciate the venal stupidity of his sycophants – sadly Farage seems to believe their every word!

Spin and propaganda are how political leadership teams keep their positions with their snouts in the trough – using other peoples’ money to bribe their own praise singers.

It was ever the way with weak and inadequate leaders only the strong and the competent make their praise singers take their thrones to the low tide line to prove their sycophants wrong.

Sadly, though UKIP is our only visible lifeboat, whatever the position UKIP is unfit for purpose ONE performing monkey does not constitute leadership.

Farage can and usually is an excellent performer and without doubt UKIP’s second greatest asset after its Leave-The-EU policies.

So UKIP has both the performing monkey and the right tune to attract the crowds on the Organ but what is conspicuously absent is a competent and experienced Organ Grinder.

Sadly until an Organ Grinder materialises the Organ lies in the ditch neglected, the tune has been diluted and is coming out as discordant blurts and squirts (Denny, Duffy, Fuller, Towler, Croucher, McGough, Gulleford, Bannerman, Reeve, Ransom, Clark, Andreasen & the other parasites on the make and the take!) and the monkey is driving away all competent performers to stay in control of the peanuts!

UKIP sadly is thus unfit for purpose until or unless it can find a strong leader who can CONTROL the idiocy.

Without leadership UKIP is just a hinderance to the Leave-The-EU EUroSceptics and EUroRealists – 80% in polls of the British peoples show they want to Leave-The-EU or at very least remove the Political interferrence and endless theft of British money to fund corruption and incompetence in continental EUrope.

Let us consider how UKIP can be turned around after removal of the rotten head of this particularly dangerous dead fish now landed on our only visible lifeboat.

May I suggest the way to move forward:

01. Hard work, recognition, reward and clear badging of achievements – The salaried can not be seen to be achieving worthy of praise THEY ARE PAID – that is their job and if they fail to do it fire them or move them to their competence level.

02. Build Trust based on openness transparency and clear organisational structure (Rob McWhirtter’s much demanded ‘Organogram’) with participation FROM the grass routes and input from the base line.

03. A Vision which is simple and can clearly be imparted.

04. Training of a growing core of people. Structured and continuous.

05. Clear simple understandable strategy for every level.

06. Clarity of a single core message.

07. Structured tactics at every level.

08. Encouragement and promotion of activists to try to surpass you.

09. Removal of ALL indispensable individuals – every task must be no more than a task NOT a Personal cult or empire building excercise.

10. FAB – Sell The Features, Advantages & Benefits of THE product.

IF you really want to take this seriously you could do worse than Read ‘Mein Kampf’ – a document which together with ‘Das Capital’, I believe, sources back to The Cathars.

Of course they are tedious, tendentious and dated but the core principles are well worth studying.

To understand The EU and best prepare to dismantle it I would strongly suggest the best book to read is ‘The European Parliament‘ by Richard Corbett, Frances Jacobs and Michael Shackleton – technocratic unimaginitive purists, and proponents of the EU (their gravy train and income source!) they provide every detail of its aims, its structures and where it is going wrong and thus how it can be dismantled! (Know thine enemy)

Richard North & Christopher Booker’s ‘The Great Deception‘ is indubitably the best book to understand the background and project the hidden present and future ambitions. (Know thine enemy)

I trust this helps in the ongoing low grade war of attrition to Leave-The-EU.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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