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#597* – THE DEFENCE FUND – A CLARIFICATION

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/08/2009

#597* – THE DEFENCE FUND – A CLARIFICATION

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

THE DEFENCE FUND – A CLARIFICATION & PROOF OF PROBITY TO EUkip’s LIARS & CHEATS!

Hi,

it has been brought to my attention by Rob McWhirter, who phoned me from Zurich this afternoon, that some of the less savory members of EUkip would seem to be seeking to distract members of Anthony Butcher’s corrupt and discreditted Forum, in which he provides a platform for regular dishonesty from EUkip members and supporters and has lied in order to ban those he is instructed to ban by EUkip’s utterly corrupt leadertship, based upon lies.

Rob has informed me that EUkip low lifes are assuming others to be as corrupt and dishonest as they have themselves proved to be scum like Mark Croucher a proven liar, dissembler, cheat and serial commercial failure who has done so very much harm to UKIP over the years as he drags it into the gutter of his life – similarly you will note proven liars and the corrupt like Bob Feel Martinis and Mike McGough all totally discreditted – not by slander or libel but by substantiated fact have chosen to try to discredit the fund I asked for support for in November last year.

Here is my posting according to Butcher’s Forum, sadly it can not be trusted as accurate as it has been proven that Anthony Butcher is dishonourable and a liar willing to alter the record to substantiate his own dishonesty.

You may having read his version care to visit the original version as I mailed it:

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UKIP>#165* – FUNDING APPEAL – Clean-up Costs!!
Greg Lance-Watkins 12:59 PM 28-11-2008
Friday, 28 November 2008

#165* – FUNDING APPEAL

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

May I make an appeal:

Hi,

I am aware that there are those who have financial responsibilities and upholding decency in UKIP in the Eastern Region & elsewhere and defending UKIP and themselves against the corruption endemic in The NEC & EUkip is proving a burden to them, as they are ensuring that they do not put a foot wrong, as it might put them at risk, and advice must perforce be good.

An increasing number are fighting this battle to save UKIP fom being subsumed and I believe that all who value freedom should make a contribution relative to their means and just how much they value liberty, honesty and integrity.

I have asked Major Niall Warry (Green Jacket Rtd.), who is beyond reproach, to act as the collecting point and issue receipts for any and all monies contributed, which he has agreed to do, should this not suit YOU I have also asked Dr. Eric Edmond, who also is of utmost probity, to accept your contribution.

You may be absolutely certain of your donation being properly receipted through either and the monies received handled with utmost care legally.

Thank you – any monies over and above the legitimate costs will be contributed to the fund to clean up EUkip and re-establish probity, morality and integrity – The UKIP that was stolen from the members.

Major Warry & Doctor Edmond
together with the Wests will form the steering committee to liase on projects over and above the reasonable and legitimate needs.

I have used the word ‘legitimate ‘, ‘Advisedly’ such that the fund does not nor can it be seen to infringe any laws which may make donors liable for ANY costs or expenses beyond the donation and the intermediaries no more liable themselves, under law.

Sometimes honesty costs!

I have launched this on my own initiative knowing that the parties I have nominated will be only too willing to help but due to commitments or legalities may need to nominate another.

Mrs. Voelcker unfortunately foresees problems, professionally for her as a Barrister, if she participates or nominates someone.

I would appreciate it if anyone feels they can assist Niall & Eric as a third collection point please contact me and I will obtain & publish contact details.

Major T. Niall Warry (rtd.) eMail address is Niall@Warry.go-plus.net
&
Dr. Eric Edmond’s eMail address is Eric_Edmond@HotMail.co.UK

PLEASE contact them by eMail to have explained the details BEFORE you make any contribution – a day & evening phone number would be appreciated, which will NOT be retained and/or utilised for ANY other matter.

An un-named receipt will be issued for every donation received and no record will be kept of donors.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

[Rep]
Bob FM 01:03 PM 28-11-2008
An un-named receipt will be issued for every donation received and no record will be kept of donors

Very secure. So what happens to the funds not used.

[Rep]
chikrodah 02:11 PM 28-11-2008
I wasn’t aware Petrina was a practising barrister. She’s certainly not listed in the Bar Directory.

[Rep]
michael mcgough 03:19 PM 28-11-2008
Greg;I note you use the word schlenter on you blog meaning rough or imitation dianonds.
This sounds pretty dutch kosher to me,have you gone over to Mossad?But then you’re more moss side aren’t you.How’s LEE?

[Rep]
Greg Lance-Watkins 03:25 PM 28-11-2008
Originally Posted by chikrodah:
I wasn’t aware Petrina was a practising barrister. She’s certainly not listed in the Bar Directory.

Hi,

she is not currently practicing but as I understand it feels that her position and that her husband was a Judge may prove a professional problem in the future.

IF I am consequentially wrong in this comment it is not with an intent to mislead and I’m sure she would be happy to answer if PMd.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[Rep]
Greg Lance-Watkins 03:32 PM 28-11-2008
Originally Posted by Bob FM:
An un-named receipt will be issued for every donation received and no record will be kept of donors

Very secure. So what happens to the funds not used.

Hi,

perhaps if you read things with some intelligence and generosity of spirit you might incline to seem more intelligent NOTE:

Originally Posted by :
Major Warry & Doctor Edmond
together with the Wests will form the steering committee to liase on projects over and above the reasonable and legitimate needs.

You must try to understand that not everyone is on the make and the take which would be how you see the world it seems.

Your endless snipping and sniping for ever wrong is beginning to make you look a bitter twisted little man who sees his self importance trickling down his leg.

Back off and stop making a fool of yourself.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[Rep]
Greg Lance-Watkins 03:44 PM 28-11-2008
Originally Posted by michael mcgough:
Greg;I note you use the word schlenter on you blog meaning rough or imitation dianonds.
This sounds pretty dutch kosher to me,have you gone over to Mossad?But then you’re more moss side aren’t you.How’s LEE?

Your postings are getting more inane as you endlessly make a fool of yourself.

The one disadvantage in being a liar and a cheat is you lose all credibility – esspecially when you have set out to cheat your friends and dupe your coleagues.

Schlenter in normal Yiddish as used in Africa and much of America, also the Jewish communities in South America tends to mean fake or ‘dodgey’ though it may pertain to diamonds in some areas.

It tended not to be used by the diamond dealers in Africa nor Antwerp or America though I can not recall the term used, nor in IDD or IDB. I’ve bought and sold in Jhb., Rio, Caraccas & America but not Europe or Britain.

Schlenter is indubitably ‘Dutch Kosher’ or more accurately ‘Dutch Yiddish’.

McGough or Goughmann – Kaufmann?

G.L-W.

To view my original article on this blog CLICK HERE

I have no reason to believe that there has been any material alteration of this posting.

May I draw to your attention that I acted in good faith aware that Niall Warry was totally trustworthy having known him for many years.

I had originally included Petrina Holdsworth since I had known her for many years and knew her to be honest and trustworthy – sadly she felt participation to be inappropriate in view of her legal status (rtd.)

Thirdly, since he had been elected by UKIP members I had asked Dr. Eric Edmond to act as a collection point should anyone wish to make contribution through him and he asked me to use the ‘e’Mail address as listed.

You will note that I believed there was no reason to distrust Edmond. I regret I could not provide such an assertion now, based upon personal experience and events passed on to me. I do NOT believe that Edmond would wish to be other than honest but there is no doubt that we have very different understandings of integrity, honourable behaviour and trust. With hind sight I would NOT have asked him to participate and I believe I made an honest error.

Whilst with EUkip several £Millions would seem to have been lied about, potentially stolen or corruptly accounted by the vile scum that has risen to leadership and support of the leadership of EUkip, one notes the flatullent clamouring of the nebishes seeking preferrment and crumbs from the troughs on The EU Gravy Train in support of racism, xenophobia, corruption and sexual intollerance of EUkip in its choice of partners of like mind in the forming of a pan EU Political Party Group.

EUkip is a public body and seemingly to detract from the facts of its corruption the low lifes and scum of EUkip seek to distract by questioning the honest efforts of a few to prevent the bullying of certain members seeking justice within the increasingly corrupt and venal EUkip.

May I bring to the attention of the more intelligent readers:

01. The appeal was made in good faith.

02. Such funds as were donated are fully accountable.

03. The ‘e’Mail addresses were as supplied to me.

04. Eric Edmond discussed the matter with myself and agreed to assist.

05. Eric Edmond advised John West that he was involved.

06. Eric Edmond discussed the matter with Niall Warry.

07. The purpose of obfuscation of collection points was that we believed it would be distasteful for any recipient of the funding to be identifiably indebted to a given donor – a point agreed by those concerned at the time.

08. Not one of the numerous donors has shown ANY distrust of the handling of the fund, nor have they requested ANY further clarification.

09. I personally asked Niall Warry, Eric Edmond, John West or any other individual involved NOT to make public any privy information. John West chose to make NO comment, Niall Warry to treat with humour and ridicule and Somerset Yokel (IF he is in fact Dr. Eric Edmond and not an agent provocateur) opted to act dishonourably in a futile attempt to refute the facts.

10. IF the name Somerset Yokel does hide the identity of Eric Edmond then it is sad that he has so let himself down but even so I have absolutely no reason to believe that any money he may or may not have received was handled other than honestly.

11. I appreciate that Eric Edmond has little or no control over his temper tantrums and may well not recall his actions during such outbursts. I can assure you the ‘e’Mail as listed was as supplied and further were questioned via John West who confirmed he also used a Tiscali list as I recall (It was 9 months ago!!)

12. At no time did Edmond EVER advise me that he was no longer willing to act as a collection point nor did he inform Niall Warry. I have no reason to believe that Eric Edmond saw fit to renege on his agreement though it would not surprise me as he has proved untrustworthy in other aspects. I do not believe however that he would have done other than pass on any monies he may or may not have received.

13. Since not a single donor has shown themselves to be disatisfied with the management of the fund may I suggest those of EUkip cast out the moat from their own eye rather than scurrilously and corruptly trying in desperation to claim that others are as dishonest as they have proved themselves to be.

Be aware that appart from a strange understanding of honour on the part of Edmond, it would seem, there has NEVER been an instance of consequential deliberate dishonesty led against either myself or Niall Warry.

However we do know that Croucher, Moran, Denny, McGough, Bannerman, Colman, Farage, Smith, Gill, Nuttall, Andreasen, Reeve, Padmore, Onions, Parr, Fuller, Huw Williams, Towler, Butcher, Lott, Carver, Jenkins, M. Wood, Curtis, Clark and many others are proven liars and cheats as are many who are too ashamed to put their name to their comments and shelter personalised attacks behind false names or on Forums where they make cowardly attacks that have no substance or substantiation in fact – as with the dishonesty of Bob Feel Martinis or the regular childish dribblings of Mike McGough, Croucher and their ilk.

Sadly it surprises few that having gained their seats and status in the EU by aiding The BNP and capitalising on the dustbin vote of protest against the political corruption of the EU rubber stamping office of Westminster EUkip has dragged Britain into the gutter with them prostituting both principles and our Country for personal gain in collusion with some of the most revolting people in EUropean politics since Goering, Eichman, Borman, Barbie, Mitterand, Goebels, Mussollini, Mosley, Tyndall Blair and their ilk.

Unlike EUkip not only can we account for every penny donated but also unlike EUkip it is absolutely none of your business and it is a matter of shame that EUkip supporters seek to make mischief dishonestly over this matter whilst corruptly and dishonestly handling members money.

May I suggest filth like McGough, Butcher, Croucher, Denny, Septic and their sordid ilk, if they believe they have ANY right to further information make application – not as cowards where the accused will act honourably and refuse to engage or are denied the right to comment in their defence – Seek out a lawyer and having established your own probity make a legal and official application of me for further details. Edmond has shown his answers are unreliable however to date not a single solitary piece of filth from EUkip has managed to show I have misled or lied deliberately on ANY issue.

Put up or shut up and crawl back into the slime from whence you came!

The fund was set up in good faith to address just the sort of bullying and dishonesty shown by those now dishonestly seeking to infer dishonesty. Unlike EUkip the fund has been handled with absolute probity and completely to the satisfaction of every donor and each recipient.

IF anyone has ANY doubt it is their duty to involve the police – just as honest members of UKIP have involved OLAF, The Police, The Electoral Commission and other authorities in investigating the dishonesties perceived of EUkip and its corrupt and discreditted leadership.

We await the eventual judgement against Tom Wise in the light of the irrefutable evidence as do we of the lies of Andrew Smith and others that have resulted in a guilty verdict in the Courts already and we now await the probability, due to the dishonesty of Farage, Smith, Wittacker, Lott and others, that forfeiture and costs may well run to well in excess of £1/2Million.

Then there will come a time for accounting for the sum approaching £1Million stolen by duplicity from the members and donors who aimed to fund UKIP via Ashford call centre in its various corrupt guises, also those who thought they were donating to UKIP via credit card payments to a privately held credit card system in The Wrest Country or via Ramsgate etc. Then of course there is somewhere in excess of £1/4Million that was seemingly trousered by Nigel Farage and David Lott for a petition which never took place!

May I suggest that EUkip and the filth that supports them seeks toi clean up its own befouled act before it dishonestly casts aspertions against others as a corrupt diversionary tactic.

ANYONE in any doubt or misunderstanding of this blog and my assurances is more than welcome to comment, not as cowards behind my back on corrupt forums but directly by ‘e’Mail or phone and I will publish both their question and their answer.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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