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#0744* – UKIP Loses Another Councillor

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/02/2012

#0744* – UKIP Loses Another Councillor 
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UKIP Loses Another Councillor!
Just imagine the disaster if UKIP had ANY authority!

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talk about unfit for purpose – can you imagine a party that is so unprofessional that it supplies lists of its distribution membership freely, as shown by their crassly amateur, so called, party secretary!


Let us not forget UKIP has a track record of complete irresponsibility in data protection even being censured by The Data protection Commission through the courts!


It was after all UKIP that indulged in Cyber Bullying by posting a candidates confidential video on YouTube.


You will remember the lies and dishonesty and attempted cyber bullying to suppress the truth and intimidate by its press office, NEC members and even the lies of MEPs desperate to suppress the truth! NEC members such as Douglas Denny, Mick McGough or MEPs like Stuart Agnew, Graham Booth, Derek Clark, David Bannerman, Marta Andreasen etc.


Now we see once more the efforts of its leadership to once again force through changes to its constitution, crassly ill presented amateurishly ill written and once more trying desperately to eradicate democracy and concentrate POWER in the hands of one man.


Let us not forget that these efforts have already been voted down previously but be minded  UKIP is very much an integral part of The EU scam and like The EU makes its subjects vote and vote and vote again to get the result they ‘demand’!


You will also note for just how long some of its more senior members like Michael Harvey, David Nixon and the like have been trying to persuade the party to act ethically but with little result – you will remember David Nixon resigned almost a year ago but did not carry it through until now – so out of their tiny group of elected Councillors yet another has quit UKIP in disgust at their dishonesty and lack of democracy.


We all KNOW Steven Woolfe was parachuted in as lead candidate as a drinking buddy of Farage’s – The number one list candidate in London was elected by the members yet he has been bumped down to suit Farage!

The elected list, I am reliably informed by several individuals, was:

1st David Coburn
2nd Lawrence Webb
3rd Paul Oakley
4th Steven Woolfe
5th Helen Dixon
6th Elizabeth Jones

Is this what UKIP wishes for our country, rigged elections and selection processes overriding the democratic rights of the voters?

I have been promised a number of letters including resignation letters which I will publish if they take the factual position forward constructively towards a Clean-Up of UKIP to TRY to make it fit for purpose rather than an aid to The EU!

Just consider where the corruption of elections has led UKIP – it was Farage’s CHOICES like David Bannerman, Stuart Agnew (Thick as pig sh*t but loaded – to quote Farage), Ashley Moat parachuted in to raise Farage’s credibility, the liar and fraud Marta Andreasen, Paul Nuttall forcing out Gregg Beaman etc. etc. The list is as long as UKIP’s history and just as corrupt! 

You will also remember the esteem in which UKIP leadership hold their councillors from the belated and most perfunctory note of the untimely death of one of their few decent achievers Steve Povey and do note the fact that apart from a rather limp electoral circular they put no effort into retaining any of his seats despite having a willing candidate with public sympathy on his side as his son – UKIP lost EACH seat! 

Labour ex-minister and former Staffordshire Moorlands MP Charlotte Atkins won a district council seat from Ukip at Leek North on aswitch of more than 19% since last May.
Tory Neal Podmore gained Staffordshire’s Leek South division.
These two seats became vacant after the death of a Ukip councillor who represented both of them.

Analysis of six comparable results suggest a projected 2% nationwide Labour lead over Conservative, the same margin calculated in aBBC survey of last May’s council polls.

This week’s line-up based on five wards fought both times by all three major parties is: C 36.1%, Lab 34.5%, Lib Dem 19.3%.

RESULTS
Hampshire County – Winchester Southern Parishes:
C 1661, Lib Dem 1038, Ukip 133, Green 130, Lab 124. (June 2009 – C 2625, Lib Dem 1232, Ukip 557, Lab 139). C hold. Swing 5.2% C to Lib Dem.

Northamptonshire County – Towcester:
Lib Dem 1279, C 638, Ukip 124, BNP 66. (June 2009 – C 1648, Lib Dem 760, Lab 293). Lib Dem gain from C. Swing 31.6% C to Lib Dem.

South Lakeland District – Windermere Town:
Lib Dem 418, C 85, Lab50, Ukip 20. (May 2011 – Lib Dem 537, C 117, Lab 114). Lib Dem hold. Swing 1.7% C to Lib Dem.

South Northamptonshire District – Towcester Brook:
Lib Dem 774, C401, Ukip 129. (May 2011 – Three seats Lib Dem 857, C 831, Lib Dem 811,C 785, 753, Lib Dem 645, Ukip 266, 178). Lib Dem gain from C. Swing 13.6% C to Lib Dem.

Staffordshire County – Leek South:
C 725, Ukip 556, Lab 432, Lib Dem 419, Moorlands Democratic Alliance 336, Ind 192. (June 2009 – Ukip 1766, C 1355, Lib Dem 905, Lab 470, Green 323). C gain FROM Ukip. Swing 7.4% Ukip to C.

Staffordshire Moorlands District – Leek North:
Lab 514, Ukip 188,C 178, Moorlands Democratic Alliance 33, Lib Dem 24 . (May 2011 – Threeseats Ukip 694, Lab 657, 527, C 423, Ukip 336, Ind 277, C 275, 170). Lab gain from Ukip. Swing 19.1% Ukip to Lab.

Suffolk County – Kesgrave and Rushmere St Andrews:
C 1302, Lab 804, Lib Dem 514. (June 2009 – Two seats C 2821, 2799, Lib Dem 1426, 1378, Lab 689, 546). C hold. Swing 13.2% C to Lab.

Suffolk Coastal District – Kesgrave East:

C 531, Lab 241, Lib Dem194. (June 2011 – Three seats C 1405, 1390, 1343, Lab 704, 606, Lib Dem561, Green 542, Lib Dem 443). C hold. Swing 3.3% Lab to C.

From: MartinHarveyONR@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:39:41 -0500 (EST)
Cc: ;
Subject: Re: Constitution

Thanks for this David,
The PEPP ballot was conducted after proper debate and the real UKIP Party voted against it quite rightly. I did say before the PEPP debate that we should see the new Constitution before we voted on the PEPP Issue.
We are now in a situation where 90% of our members will not understand what it is all about when they vote. This is not good enough,
   Martin Harvey Chairman UKIP Broxbourne, member since 1995 or earler.
In a message dated 10/02/2012 20:02:23 GMT Standard Time, fongyphonics@hotmail.co.uk writes:
From: David Nixon

Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:02:04 +0000
To: Michael Greaves; Robert Snare; Angela Scriven; J Lesingham; Ann Rapnik; dmrsec@ukipberkshire.co.uk; S Martin; Mrs B Fairweather; R Ness; James McCulloch; Chris French; John Buckley; Tony Stone; A Sheehan; M Lyon; Michael Bedford; Steve Richards; r shanks; garreth evans; george_busybee@btinternet.com; J DICKER; steve harris; C Bridewell; Rose Lynden-Bell; christina latham; jill collin; Philip Pinto; Robert Cane; Celia Pilling; David M Black; Laurence Hughes; Steve Smith; Michael Wigley; Christopher Browne; I Davison; Jean Wisker; mark stroud; John Holt; Adrian Stevens; Victor Webb; R Ings; Gwendoline Girdwood; E Ashwell; Richard Squire; Mike; J Granata; Richard Crowder; Peter Lucas; M Day; Richard Scammell; P Collins Chairman; Dave Parker; Warwick Knowles; Philip Cork; ukipchristchurch@tiscali.co.uk; Jenny Knight; John baxter; Peter Jenkins; Lesley Kelly; ralph gay; Duncan Richardson; John Knight; richard stanton; Charles Robertson; elizabeth burton; Peter Smith; David Salmon; John Harvey; P Milverton; Stephanie McWilliam; Guy Parfitt; Anthony McIntyre; C Mozley; S Guppy; steve parker; C Allen; Dorothy Baker; Gaston Dezart; Ian Walsh; P Le Maistre; C Guyton; Alan James; arthurhamlins@talktalk.net; J Gulleford; Martin Harvey; Christopher Streatfield; Helene Davies; peter reeve; George Curtis; Andrew Smith; Susan Smith; rex parkinson-hare; Cllr John Barry; Margaret King; charles lawman; Janet Culley; lisa duffy; John Youles; P Grimes; F Fox; Evan Heasley; Leon Stedman; JOHN BUTCHER; Marion Mason; Kerry Smith; W Mountford; Renie Price; Michael Stone; IAN SMITH; P Lancaster Chairman; P Sheehan; P Rowe; P Hughes; John Rawles; R Allen; peter cope; Cilla Bethell; J White; John Galloway; S Lewis; J Mabbott; M Lynch; steve povey; M Harold; A Illsley; L Wragg; Brett Parsons; I gardner; derek bennett; Jill Seymour; alan sheath; george lawson; Mark Starr; Barry Hodgson; C Humphries; Michael Wrench; H Reed; roy hopwood; Hamish Howitt; Michael Owen; J Mallinson; Brian Jarvis; T Commis; M Bayliss; S Noble; Neil Miney; robert willescroft; P Griffiths; P Gaskell; Chris Cassidy; Gary Robinson; Peter Cuddy; Frederick McGlade; Marie McNulty; Alan Freeman Wigan; Marlene Waddington; W Jenner; Christine Diamond; wjohnbailey; a.p.pandya@lse.ac.uk; Martin Shelvey; M Watson; david coburn; Graham W. Mills; Maxine Spencer; Chisholm; James Bochsler; Philip Gordon; Vanessa Crichton; don ransome; C Swabey; David Rogerson; Peter Conquest; S Hassall; marilyn swain; Willem Veldhuizen; Nicholas Smith; m storier; A Hamilton; Jim Macarthur; Keith Marriott; Heather Ward; John Scutter; n robinson; B Pexton; S Hilson; jane collins; don ukip; J Upex; A Marsland; K Hordon; Peter Morgan; Nathan Clark Garbutt; Tim Veal; Tina Dowdall; Nigel James; Ian Bannister; Clive Easton; Gwyn Parry; Michael Squires; Barry Rogers; T Greaves; C Williams; F Wykes; NathanGill1@aol.com; margaret weatheritt; nigel coghill; Eric Wilson; D Cottrell; Alexis Fernandes; gordon parkin; martin bulmer; Henry Marshall; Richard Elvin; D Watters; G Norrie; P Adams; mark bekusch; Ross Durance; pete quick; Nathan Brittain; I Tyler; S Povey; C Lovatt; R Herbert; Ralph Berry; P Smith; I Tyres; K Sinclair; N Jukes; B Mahoney; J Lodder; B Hicks; Roger Fowkes
Cc: sjcrowther@btinternet.com; vote.jonathan@googlemail.com ;
Subject: RE: Constitution

When we have chosen candidates before and put them in order of preference for the E.U. elections along comes a person whom we have never heard of, who has never stood in an election for the party , who has never slogged round streets leafleting day after day, who was never a member of the party before the sudden parachuting in, etc.etc. to name but one, Kilroy-silk. I for one have had enough of this so called democratic party and am not rejoining. Borough Councill and Staffs County Councillor. David Nixon



Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:30:33 +0100


Subject: Constitution


From: Michael Greaves


<ukip.partysecretary@gmail.com>


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Dear Fellow UKIP members

Thank you so much for writing in with your observations on the constitution.

I respectfully disagree with your proposition and urge you to vote “YES” to this new document which is so important for the future of the Party.

The proposition made is inaccurate as the new Constitution will NOT change candidate selection procedures.  The candidate selection procedures will be the same whether or not the Constitution is passed.

The relevant Rules permitting a Constituency Association to select from the Approved List are now within the Party’s Rules of Procedure, which states:


B.5.1 It is the responsibility of branches to seek to nominate candidates for parliamentary and local elections within the branch area, acting in accordance with the rules laid down in Sections R,S,T,U and V of the Rules of Procedure.


S.15 Only applicants on the national approved list may apply to a branch or Constituency Association for an adoption/hustings meeting.


S.16 Adoption/hustings meetings shall be advertised so that all candidates on the Approved List have the right to apply for selection in any constituency.


S.17 Constituency Associations or branches which fail to select candidates within the timescale in the PPC Selection Procedure may forfeit the right to select their candidates, with the responsibility being undertaken by the region.


S.18 Where there is more than one applicant in a given constituency, an open hustings meeting must be held in accordance with the PPC Selection Procedure.


S.19 In this event, the choice of candidate shall be made through a ballot in accordance with the PPC Selection Procedure.

I suggest that these provisions make clear that the effect suggested is not in fact the reality.

Yours sincerely

Michael Greaves
Party Secretary

One must appreciate the irrefutable fact that UKIP leadership are ONLY interested in themselves and self enrichment using sock puppets as liars, cheats and cyber bullies as the only way they can retain office as clearly they do not do so on democratic principles or British values being in association with racists, anti Jewish, anti homosexual, Zionist scum of EU politics who advocate violence and murder as policy, gave words of succour to Anders Brevick subsequent to his vile xenophobic murder spree and as The EFD Group advocate EU membership and revision of the scam to suit their personal needs and greeds.


We even had the spectacle of Nigel Farage telling outright lies on National TV as he claimed to have fired Tom Wise and more recently his lies that UKIP had 2 female MEPs when it was he who was found guilty of abuse by the Courts in firing Nikki Sinclaire who to save face and curry favour for Stuart Wheeler’s money he has had to make overtures to try to get to rejoin the UKIP MEPs – This he has singularly FAILED to achieve in over a year of clearly implausible negotiations.


Imagine what UKIP would be like if they had ANY authority in Governance!


By way of support of the facts led in the article above I add:

Mike Nattrass MEP on the proposed changes:
UKIP MEMBERS

You will have had the proposed UKIP Constitution information and voting paper, with the magazine.

The newly proposed constitution takes power away from Branches and the Conference. it also moves back in favour of Pan European Parties.

There is one voice for and yet no counter proposal at all ……. and we are again being railroaded and given no time to talk about the issues.

Please consider it seriously before voting.

I shall vote NO.

Herewith some of the paragraphs worth looking at:-
 

3.3 and 3.4 open the door for pan european parties.

4.2.1 gives NEC carte blanche to introduce whatever they like.



4.3.d does this apply to Lord Pearson?



4.4.1 this allows the Party to keep Lord Pearson in the party ranks.



4.9 Yet another paragraph giving undefined power to the NEC.



6.3 deals with elections to the NEC but no mention of regional representation on the NEC.

7.1 gives the Leader the power to ‘give political direction….and the development of policies. It should be ‘assists in giving political direction’.



12.1.1 gives the NEC unlimited and undefined power concerning selection.


12.1.2 a clumsy way of preventing another Ashley Mote incident.


12.6.7.8 gives power to the NEC and away from the local constituency in
the selection of candidates.



12.11 this strengthens up any undertaking by prospective MEPs to belong to a ‘grouping’ But the make up of such a group is not defined (3.3. and 3.4. would allow for any group ‘subject to the right of the Leaderand the NEC jointly to decide…).


In other words UKIP MEPs can be forced to belong to another EFD or ID group along with those who are federalists and extremists.
Subject: Vote ‘No’ to the new Constitution
Date: 7 February 2012 17:37:15 GMT

Dear UKIP activists,



Under the new Constitution the selection of candidates for Euro elections and General elections remains with the NEC. Branch or ConstituencynAssociations may only select candidates for Local elections in their area.


I believe that UKIP will not flourish unless Regional and Branch committees have the right to select UKIP candidates for Euro and General elections. Therefore I am voting ‘No’ to the new Constitution.


This is NOT because I have been denied membership of the approved Party list – I have never applied, and have no plans to do so. It is because UKIP is in danger of becoming a fiefdom. We demand that the EU has democratic legitimacy, but deny local activists the most important task of all – the selection of a local candidate to represent their area. Regional committees should have the final decision on Euro candidates – Branch committees on General election candidates. This is not to deny the NEC the right to create an approved list of candidates, but the list must be advisory only.


Yours sincerely,
Charles Swabey


Branch Chairman
Central & South Derbyshire


From: vanessa [mailto:spice.girl@btinternet.com]


Sent: 08 February 2012 12:04
Cc: Dmrsec@Ukipberkshire. Co. Uk
Subject: New Constitution

You have probably received the latest “Independence” magazine with the new Constitution inside with your ballot papers to vote “yes” or “no”.  I have had a long chat to some people within UKIP and I have been persuaded to vote NO and I am urging you to do the same.



I have been alerted that there are clauses in the new constitution which make it easier for UKIP to join a Pan-European party and therefore be given a great deal of “our” money to help the EU cause.


Also the membership vote for the Assembly List was re-jigged so the first 2 voted to the top of the list were put further down.  I am not happy about this because this is not acceptable in a party purporting to be democratic. 


I do hope you will agree with this and vote NO to the new constitution.


Kind regards
Vanessa Crichton

Vanessa Crichton was the UKIP PPC for Hammersmith. It’s a constituency where Vanessa is also the Chairman of UKIP West London.  it is claimed: Vanessa Crichton has built up West London UKIP despite the obstacles the likes of Wiffen have put in her place.

You may also find this article of interest: CLICK HERE

If you want to read the recycling of previously rejected ideas voted down by the members – you will find it crassly over wordy and self important and reads like a document written by a failed third world law student now practicing behind a brass plate LLb Fld Bombay! But you may be bored enough to want to scan it so CLICK HERE

Such a pity UKIP has absolutely no idea of ethics, integrity or professionalism! As it keeps making abundantly clear.

Noting these facts and no doubt the utterly unprofessional total disregard of Farage’s placeman Michael Greaves in his desperate attempt to rebutt critics of the latest rewrite of UKIP Constitution in yet another attempt to legitimise what UKIP leadership already does when it rigs and fixes Party elections to suit themselves regardless of the wishes – even the votes of members!

I note Charles Swabey wrote again:
From: charles@myqualities.com
Subject: Say ‘No’ to the new Constitution
Date: 8 February 2012 15:05:24 GMT
To: ukip.partysecretary@gmail.com

 

Dear Party Secretary,

Thank you for your response. It would have been nice if the ‘Rules’ to which you refer had also been circulated to members.

However, as you know perfectly well mere ‘Rules of Procedure’ will always be inferior to the principal Constitutional document. If there is any conflict between the two, the Constitution will always prevail, as it so often does in the USA – where the Constitutional issue is always fought out in the final Court of Appeal.

Para B.5.1. of your Rules of Procedure allows branches to ‘nominate‘ candidates but not to decide. I believe that Regional Committees and Branches should have the ‘right to decide‘. Mere nomination to the NEC is a worthless prerogative for Regional and Branch committees because this Constitution transfers real powers of selection to the NEC.

I do not argue with your Paras S.15 to S.19 – but they make no difference to the central objection that the new Constitution cements the right of the NEC to determine who will be selected to represent UKIP in every region for Euro elections, and every constituency for Parliamentary and Local elections.

I regret to say that your response emphatically underlines my fears that UKIP Regional committees and Branch committees are no longer to be trusted to undertake the important role of selecting suitable candidates to represent the local community. Without trust you cannot expect the wholehearted support of grass root members to get behind their candidate. Without strong commited support at local level a candidate’s chance of election is dramatically impaired.

Yours sincerely,

Charles Swabey

Chairman
Central and South Derbyshire

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There are many listed here with their lies and their cowardice dragging UKIP’s name in the gutter they seem so at home in!

Just think that at EVERY attempt to get elected Nigel Farage and his hirelings and paid sycophants have promised to professionalise UKIP!

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Hi,

recently there was a further vomit of lies and dishonesty of Independent UKIP who posts in cowardly anonymity as a supporter, not of UKIP but of Nigel Farage and just as with liars like Annabelle Fuller, Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, The Common Man (Oh so very common and so very corrupt), they do huge damage to UKIP, with their lies and corruption and their attacks on anyone who dares to have a view point which might threaten their snout in the trough attitude.

A measure of the credibility of UKIP is shown by the catastrophic achievements for the Party in domestic elections where they constantly get trashed by the electorate – where the leadership is treated as a joke and only one person is allowed to shine.

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Yet again in the pretence of profesionalism the imbecilic Independent UKIP comes forth with abuse of supporters and a full hand of obscenities and lies:

Independent UKIP Independent UKIP is offline Trusted Member Independent UKIP is a jewel in the rough Independent UKIP is a jewel in the rough

A certain interesting blog has commented on this topic without anyone yet remarking on the fact so I thought it worthwhile reproducing:

This is rich – one vituperative liar quoting another as his source! Please note that time and again both these cowards have been proven beyond doubt to be liars. Rarely to they publish a constructive comment it is endless cowardly attacks on supporters of UKIP!

Wednesday, 6 July 2011
Collier wrong again, this time on Greaves.
The Common Mans attention has been drawn to a posting by Geoffrey ‘Old Mother’ Collier on the Democracy Forum, in which he demonstrates once again his formidable research skills.

Writing of Michael Greaves, he states “We now have appointed at public expense a Mr Greaves who claims to be a barrister and specialises in International Law. Further claims to his credit involve appearances before the International Court at the Hague. That Court has no evidence of him appearing in any capacity. Furthermore he does not appear on the Roll of Bar members who are currently practising.”

The Common Man understands that this stunning piece of work is repeated elsewhere, particularly by the unfortunately not-yet-late convicted felon and self-confessed anti-semite Greg Watkins

May I suggest the liar and coward  with his pathetic comment regarding my well publicised cancer during the last 13 years (I even run a blog and a help line to assist others who may be fighting the disease).

My grievous felony was accidentally importing a legally held firearm and 50 legally owned rounds of ammunition into Britain in a 40 foot container of household effects as a result of using commercial packers some 30 years ago! Wow – master criminal!!

That I am an anti Semite is a lie with absolutely no evidence which can with any integrity support the claim. I am utterly indifferent to the superstitions, religions and beliefs of others regarding their chosen gods – as has been shown time and again over my entire life.

The comments/accusations of The Common Coward are nothing more than distortions, inventions and lies – as ever.

Repeating his lies as Independent UKIP and others do shows them also to be utterly corrupt.

and the morons at Junius. Watkins, remember, always apologises when he is wrong, although none have ever seen an apology.

Indeed never ONCE has any individual established a single material fact of consequence to be wrong in my many 1,000s of blogs. Despite the lies, misrepresentations and fantasies of the cowards who hide as trolls behind their childish names!

Michael Greaves was a court appointed defence barrister. Anyone capable of working a computer – which presumably Old Mother Collier is

Geoffrey Collier, for the record, was Chairman of one of UKIP’s earliest branches and built it to be one of UKIP’s largest and most productive branches. Now long retired this donor, supporter and patriotic man of conscience continues to support UKIP despite the filth that endlessly seek to belittle and demean him and thereby do such damage to UKIP as a party.

– could have discovered this through conducting a simple case search of the International Criminal Court searching case files rather than simply searching for web pages. There are actually some 40 documents which name Greaves as a defence attorney representing several defendants.

All of which are relatively obscure and somewhat dated!

The Common Man now awaits the attack on Greaves based on who he, as a defence barrister at the ICC, was appointed to represent.

Why would anyone do that? It is the duty of a Barrister under British Law and international law to defend or prosecute for their client.
Inventing scenarios as accusations is just the sort of dishonesty we see time and again but NEVER with the subsequent claimed outcome from these pond life!

The Common Man and Bob Pacific will be hugely amused at those who want a ‘clean’ UKIP attacking the right of a defendant, even at the International Criminal Court, to be represented, and somehow suggesting that because counsel is appointed to the defendants, this is somehow indicative of support for the crimes of which those defendants are accused.

The Common Man is also aware that, unlike solicitors, there is no requirement for Barristers to be registered with the Bar. Will Old Mother Collier now apologise for smearing an eminent lawyer?

You will note that more recent referrence to Michael greaves shows him to have been removed from a case for his failures of competence and it seems he has not or is not legally able to practice subsequently.

Past experience suggests that this is unlikely, and instead he will repeat his lies endlessly, thinking that that will somehow make them true.

Surely it ill becomes a liar and low life too cowardly to use his identity to dishonestly promote such a corrupt statement for which he can provide no provenance.

Needless to say, Colliers other allegations are equally well researched and equally false.

We note that this liar can provide a single example of a falsehood by Mr. Collier.

The Common Man wonders how he can have the gall to talk about ‘we’ when referring to UKIP, when clearly he is batting for the other team, but that’s another rumour which it would be wrong of us to continue probing.

Since this very Common Coward is founding his claim on lies he does make a fool; of himself.

The Common Man merely observes that for someone ostensibly if dishonestly campaigning for a clean up of UKIP, Collier has provided a remarkable way of telling what is true and what is false. If he wrote it, it’s false.

This Common coward should not judge others and present them as he himself behaves – it is bnoth corrupt, dishonest and cowardly.

Decision on Prosecution’s Application to Admit Transcripts under Rule 92bis
IN THE TRIAL CHAMBER
Before:
Judge Patrick Robinson, Presiding
Judge Richard May
Judge Mohamed Fassi Fihri
Registrar:
Mr. Hans Holthuis
Order of:
23 May 2001
PROSECUTOR
v.
DUSKO SIKIRICA
DAMIR DOSEN
DRAGAN KOLUNDZIJA
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DECISION ON PROSECUTION’S APPLICATION
TO ADMIT TRANSCRIPTS UNDER RULE 92 BIS
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The Office of the Prosecutor:
Mr. Dirk Ryneveld
Ms. Julia Baly
Mr. Daryl Mundis
Counsel for the Accused:
Mr. Veselin Londrovic and Mr. Michael Greaves, for Dusko Sikirica
Mr. Vladimir Petrovic and Mr. Goran Rodic, for Damir Dosen
Mr. Ivan Lawrence and Mr. Jovan Ostojic, for Dragan Kolundzija

Which can be found at http://www.icc-cpi.int/NR/rdonlyres/…383/373541.pdf
Posted by The Common Man at 16:17

This blogger is getting rather ahead of him/herself as nobody, here at least, has presently criticised Mr Greaves for defending accused persons in The Hague.

I’m not terribly surprised nobody at the “International Court” has heard of Mr Greaves as so far as I am aware no such body is in existence.

Had anyone wasted the time of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) they would have found Mr Greaves’ activity there.

Here is a totally random page of transcripts involving Mr Greaves from the Sikirica trial mentioned above.

I would suggest that Mr Greaves has been rather active in international criminal trials held in The Hague in recent years. I do however fear Mr Collier will not be satisfied with this factual explanation.

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It will be noted that when the comments regarding Michael Greaves were drawn to my attention by a third party I immediately published this comment:

Greg_L-W. said…

Hi, I believe Michael Greaves has been involved in trying to get The EU to pay some of Nigel Farage’s large legal bills incurred as a staying motion on The Guilty Verdict against him and UKIP by the Courts. He may even be trying to raise the money he morally owes me in the UKIP sponsored Harassment case they prosecuted against me, which they lost in The Courts. Many will remember that Paul Nuttall & Clive Page were the closest thing Mark Croucher could find as plausible witnesses – However The Judge found none of their case plausible and they even had costs awarded against they – costs they have still dishonoured in UKIP’s normal contempt for British values and Justice! Let us face it Farage and his claque all too often scuttle for cover behind the shirts of The EU – Clearly they are aware that without The EU jobs they would be unlikely to rise above Mare of some Parish Council – look at their UK results which have been a litany of failure and folly. Regards, Greg_L-W.
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You may be interested to note that subsequently I found Michael Greaves would seem not to have been quoted in practice for some time that I could establish and it was then that suspicion led to further searches and I note that he has been shown to have been dismissed from a major case as follows:

Nairobi, 29 May 2002 (IRIN) – The International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda in Arusha, Tanzania, has discharged Michael Greaves, the lead defence counsel for a genocide suspect, the Hirondelle News Agency reported. It said the tribunal’s deputy registrar, Lovemore Munlo, had signed the decision on 23 May. In the document Munlo said Greaves had only partially responded to grievances his client, Rwandan former Civil Service Minister Prosper Mugiraneza, had put to him, Hirondelle reported. At the end of 2001, Mugiraneza had filed a request before the tribunal’s registry for Greaves’ dismissal, Hirondelle reported. Mugiraneza accused Greaves, a British national, of a lack of communication, lack of diligence and delay in filing a request for assignment of a co-counsel. He also accused Greaves of a breach of confidentiality, and complained of a lack of scheduling and evaluation of activities, as well as disagreements on the defence strategy. The registry said Greaves had been informed of all the grievances for his opinion, but in his reply on 10 January had “only addressed the grievance of lack of communication, one relating to breach of confidentiality and requested to be withdrawn from the case”. The registry said, “His declining and refusal to get involved in a fee-splitting arrangement is the root of his client’s request for withdrawal of his assignment.” It added that despite four reminders this year, Greaves had failed to reply to the registry’s letters. Eventually, the registry said, it had to rely on Greave’s bar association to compel him to respond. Greaves had also failed to attend a hearing of 5 April, the registry said, and “as of today [Tuesday], despite the involvement of the General Council, he is still unwilling to cooperate with the registry”.

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE 

I seem to be unable to locate signs that Michael Greaves has practiced as a Barrister in any Court subsequently – I do not leap to the conclusion that he has had his accreditation as a Barrister withdrawn but he may well have felt his reliability and integrity were no longer upto the job – I know not.

Much as the liars and low lifes posturing as maggots in the dung heap from which UKIP’s risible leadership crow – as yet never once have any of these maggots shown me to have published anything but the truth, nor have they ever shown that I have in the last 30 years been funded from the public purse for political activity, nor that I have EVER published material in support of these United Kingdoms membership of the supra national and utterly corrupt undemocratic EU from which so many of them seem to draw their authority and incomes!

The endless posturing of these dishonest fools does nothing but harm to UKIP.

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I note today, after a conversation with them Junius has run with further links and details regarding Michael Greaves (there is no shortage on which to build!

Here is the Junius article:

Micheal Greaves

You may recall that we recently wrote about Micheal Greaves, Nigel’s friend, EFD staff member and UKIP General Secretary. Greaves was appointed without any consultation with MEPs whatsoever, into a high-salary job with Farage’s delegation in Brussels.

The story about Michael Greaves could be about to take a new turn. He was dismissed from an International Tribunal for gross incompetence.

Here is an interesting article:

RWANDA: International tribunal discharges lead defence counsel

Nairobi, 29 May 2002 (IRIN) – The International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda in Arusha, Tanzania, has discharged Michael Greaves, the lead defence counsel for a genocide suspect, the Hirondelle News Agency reported. It said the tribunal’s deputy registrar, Lovemore Munlo, had signed the decision on 23 May. In the document Munlo said Greaves had only partially responded to grievances his client, Rwandan former Civil Service Minister Prosper Mugiraneza, had put to him, Hirondelle reported. At the end of 2001, Mugiraneza had filed a request before the tribunal’s registry for Greaves’ dismissal, Hirondelle reported. Mugiraneza accused Greaves, a British national, of a lack of communication, lack of diligence and delay in filing a request for assignment of a co-counsel. He also accused Greaves of a breach of confidentiality, and complained of a lack of scheduling and evaluation of activities, as well as disagreements on the defence strategy.

The registry said Greaves had been informed of all the grievances for his opinion, but in his reply on 10 January had “only addressed the grievance of lack of communication, one relating to breach of confidentiality and requested to be withdrawn from the case”. The registry said, “His declining and refusal to get involved in a fee-splitting arrangement is the root of his client’s request for withdrawal of his assignment.” It added that despite four reminders this year, Greaves had failed to reply to the registry’s letters. Eventually, the registry said, it had to rely on Greave’s bar association to compel him to respond. Greaves had also failed to attend a hearing of 5 April, the registry said, and “as of today [Tuesday], despite the involvement of the General Council, he is still unwilling to cooperate with the registry”.

To read the original: LINK

So much for Nigel’s promise to professional the party. So another incompetent is promoted to a position of authority within the Party. They never learn!

For more on Greaves: LINK 

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Here for the record is the response of Geoffrey Collier to the pernicious lies and self delluding dishonesty of Independent UKIP and his dishonest chum The Common Man as they set out as so often before to drag UKIP’s name in the gutter these cowards inhabit:

Independent UKIP. I thought that better sources than those from Mark ‘Bunny Girl’ Croucher (Common Man) to support your case would be better. I think that you will find that he is in default of a court order for him to pay costs to a person who resides in Chepstow. I now deal with the accusations. First, which ‘other accusations’ have I made which have been untrue? Having proven himself to be a serial failure, is anything that ‘Bunny Girl’ says worthy of comment? References to the International Court at the Hague are permissible, correct and used for purposes of identification by the international press. If you are not surprised that the International Court has not heard of Mr Greaves, presumably they haven’t access to their different divisions; that comment worth noting. Equally, the reason why Mr Greaves does not appear of the Roll of Barristers can be for several reasons; and every one can be sound. Not an accusation Ind. UKIP, but merely a comment. Can we assume that Mr Greaves no longer practises, depite the situation being different in the past? I don’t claim to know. What is your information should you possess any? Are we to assume that Mr Greaves is a member, or a former member, of the Bar of England and Wales? In that case wouldn’t he be known to one of the Inns of Court? What do you find objectionable or unreasonable about that?

Let us seek context, Ind.UKIP. I was assured emphatically when making equiries about the Hon. Sobey-Neville that he was the son of an hereditary earl. The father was Chairman of Deutsche Bank, ‘I suppose you have heard of Deutsche Bank’ I was asked sharply. To whom was I speaking? No other than Mark ‘Bunny Girl’ Croucher: our own Common Man. Failed litigant, alehouse keeper, editor; the list is endless. I understand, however, that he was successful in passing to Searchlight the names of UKIP members. Croucher was working with Sobey by day, while providing accommodation by night for another UKIP employee, who was a convicted Benefit fraudster. Another problem at the same time was a gentleman claiming to be the great-nephew of a former prime minister. Even the full NEC was duped by that imposter.

I fear Ind, UKIP, that there are many reasons that should dictate caution when dealing with stories about our ’eminent’ employees. Which ‘factual expalantion’ are you providing? Are you assuring us that Mr Greaves is a practising member of the English Bar? The Inn of Court of which he is a member is known to you, and you can identify it by name? Give us the facts about which you boast!

Independent UKIP: I didn’t question anything, I merely said that it is in the public domain that when inquiries were made, evidence of a barrister with the name Michael Greaves could not be provided by the International Court at the Hague. The evidence to which you produce is about ten years old, and it is presumed that it is the same individual of the same name who works for UKIP; and perhaps it is. I never said that he hasn’t appeared at the Court in the Hague, I said that those who were motivated to seek confirmation were unable, for whatever reason, to gain confirmation were unsuccessful. Against UKIP’s previous experiences, would you consider it prudent to be cautious when claims about their senior personnel are made? The term International Court at the Hague is used by the media, to imply that the issue falls under that body of law called International Law. I think President Woodrow Wilson would claim some credit for its existence. Britain has been defeated at the Hague; the Suez fiasco, was one example. But Britain has also won there when, for example, we were in dispute with Iceland about a fishing matters. As I said previously, the International Court is a generic term for that group of courts in the Hague.

Confining the matter to UKIP’s Michael Greaves, does he still practise at the Bar, and which Inn of Court is he a member? Mr Farage assured us that once elected, he would make UKIP more professional. It seems reasonable, therefore, that information about someone like Greaves should be known to the members. What is your complaint?

Geoffrey Collier with his details and scrupulous integrity and his long term knowledge of UKIP over all the years he has supported it does rather show these odious cowards for the dishonest and self serving low lifes they clearly are.

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#0573* – Birmingham UKIP PEPP YES/NO DEBATE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/06/2011

#0573* – Birmingham UKIP PEPP YES/NO DEBATE

For more aggregated facts, rules, information, debate and opinion of PEPPs (Pan EUropean Political Parties CLICK HERE 

Already the EU seeks to remove the word ‘Political’ from the abbreviation to hide the integrationist aspect and inexorable efforts to eradicate National Politics – This is just another step in the destruction of liberty and denial of Democracy which The EU is seeking to impose by bribing OUR-ENEMY-WITHIN to adopt, with OUR money.


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Posting made to the blog 11:30hrs. 29-Jun-2011 


For a further report on this meeting see: CLICK HERE

Nigel Farage’s Official salaried boot licker Michael Greaves stated:
‘UKIP Members are to stupid & naive to understand the issues’
no doubt mimicking His Master’s voice he continued:
‘he knows understands the issues because he works in the EU parliament.

It seems he has learned little and is very naive regarding communication skills as his presentation, like the liar & low life scum Mick McGough‘s was unconvincing, demeaning and dragged UKIP into the corrupt gutter they clearly share.

UKIP: Bloody nose for Yes Team and Farage at West Midland PEP Debate!

Farage’s plans for UKIP to join a PEP pan European party are being dealt severe blows in regional debates across the country where, so far, the reaction has been overwhelmingly a 90% No!We have been told, this was last night expressed more in the West Midlands than anywhere else – a region devastated by UKIPs national infighting and the de-selection of popular local MEP Nikki Sinclaire.

A packed room, we are told of 50-60 people heard from both sides. The ‘No’ campaign was represented by Trevor Colman MEP and Mike Smith. Mick ‘Porky Pie’ Mick ‘Porky Pie’ McGough and Michael ‘who ate all the pies’ Greaves represented the ‘Yes’ campaign.

The ‘NO’ side stole the show arguing on principle with passion (notably Mike Smith), that UKIP should stay true to its withdrawalist principles. This was greeted with constant cheering and clapping from the floor.

The ‘Yes’ argument, as always, centred around money, money and more money!

Unfortunately for Farage and his sycophants this wasn’t lost on the audience! McGough and Greaves were clearly out of favour with the audience. Indeed, they only received a polite clap from two or three people after delevering their ten minute pitch. We also note that their replies to questions from the audience were met in silence, in complete contrast to the response to the no side.

Michael Greaves even felt it necessary to claim angrily to a question from a member that they were too naive to understand the issues and that he knew best as he worked in the European Parliament! This drew hisses and shouts from the audience.

Michael then attacked were made on those MEPs that had left the EFD. This resulted in a passionate reply from Mike Smith.

We are pleased to note that this drew the biggest applause of the evening in responding. He stated that Trevor, Nikki and Mike were right to leave the EFD and that they had done so because of their principles. He also expressed anger that they were constantly being attacked in certain quarters for doing what every UKIP MEP should have done – leave the EFD! He then pointed out that they were all actively campaigning for the Euro-realist cause by producing literature, leaflets, websites and petitions.

How sad that Steve Crowther (chair) tried to silence Mike. And this was despite having just allowed criticism from the other side. You really couldn’t make it up!

We suspect the West Midlands might hold the biggest opposition to the EFD than anywhere else!

The yes side continued to lie in suggesting that the party would receive funding from 13 MEPs (as stated in March’s edition of Independence News). This was clearly a deliberate attempt to mislead UKIPPERS as only a maximum of 9 UKIP MEPs would join a PEP.

Let us not forget that Mike, Nikki and Trevor are adamant that they are not going join a PEP. And have they forgotten that Bannerman has now left UKIP for the Tories? Quoting figure after figure based on 13 MEPs (promising a third more funding than they would be entitled to) is yet again another example of the level of dishonesty that we have come to expect from the ‘Yes’ campaign!

We will leave you with some words from Farage – before he went native – which are now being repeated at regional meetings across the country.

‘’We are opposed on principle to the idea of state funding of political parties, either nationally or at a European level. It is not an appropriate use of tax-payers’ money”.


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#0572* – Noted That Lies of Mick McGough are Officially Edited

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#0572* – Noted That Lies of Mick McGough are Officially Edited

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I note the lies and distortions presented so dishonestly by The Essex Oik and habitual liar Mick McGough have had to be edited out of the dishonest pro PEPP video seeking to con UKIP members into supporting his lies.

Nothing new there then!

Interestingly the PEPP presentation debate in Birmingham on Monday night led to a very clear rejection of Mick McGough’s sales patter but it was almost amusing for the audience of around 60 to have the smug, arrogant and oleagenous Michael Greaves there trying and in his obvious incompetence almost succeeding to make even Mick McGough seem intelligent!

As Mick McGough has been proven to be a liar, a low life and completely untrustworthy in that not content with his childish attempts at bullying he has even leaked UKIP confidential material to try to seem important.

The extent of his sycophancy is understandable as his insecurity would lead him to cross the country for the opening of an envelope if he thought he would have an opportunmity to bore people with his mumbled and self congratulatory behaviour.

What astonishes me is that otherwise well meaning if somewhat meaningless organisations like The CIB are prepared to be associated with this egregious piece of filth.

Yet more astonishing is that The Freedom Association, debased as it is since the death of Norris McWhirter its founder, has felt it apposite to surrender its accounts to a treasurer with a track record of dishonesty, corruption and lies.

It is however good to see that Steve Allison did manage to force the pro PEPP group of scoundrels to remove the lies and distortions by Mick McGough from their video presentation.

It was interesting to note having blown any chance of being taken seriously ever again little John Ison sat furtively considering whose boots to lick next but with no opinion of his own – perhaps the police have finally got around to feeling his collar over the thefts from Nikki Sinclaire and the false accusations he made based it seems on ‘ajustments’ he deliberately made to the record and material he boasted of having stolen – No wonder little Guy Basnett would not publish his fantasies and the Times used allegedly more than any other word portraying Ison as untrustworthy – how right they were!

It is a tragedy that after 18 years in the political field that UKIP are unable to field anyone of probity and charisma to sell its views even internally manfully as Mike Smith tried, particularly in defence of the drab and tedious Trevor Colman – however much Mick Nattrass yodelled his support from the back 😉

I think it is fair to say that UKIP would, without the efforts of Mike Nattrass’ firplace chappy Derek Bennett, have probably not managed to raise an audience of more than a dozen or two but Derek’s efforts did up the crowd somewhat.

Interestingly in direct opposition to Stuart Agnew who has openly stated he will consider joining a PEPP for his direct gain (no doubt under instruction from his masters The NFU) he has stated regardless of the vote he will join a PEPP (See Tavistock meeting video on CLICK HERE)

Under direct questioning when asked if the vote had any meaning and was it binding on the MEPs/Party as a closing question many will remember Steve Crowthers reply in which he gave assurances that it would be binding.

This may well prove to be Steve Crowther’s swan song having laid his neck on the block and the details which came to me this afternoon are now published at CLICK HERE

Should anyone wish to read the rules for PEPPs they can be found at CLICK HERE

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#0522* – UKIP Amateur Hour! Watchers Laugh as Genuine Supporters Weep

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/05/2011

#0522* – UKIP Amateur Hour! Watchers Laugh as Genuine Supporters Weep
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Watchers Laugh as Genuine Supporters Weep at the comic tragedy of UKIP’s utterly unprofessional and incompetent behaviour!

As the so called leadership and hirelings squabble like ferrets in a sack egged on by their claque of fools and parasites jockeying for position!
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You will note that when I published UKIP’s amateur hour publication of Nigel Farage’s half baked letter of response that I said at the time that UKIP were being not just incompetent but crassly amateur.

Steve Crowther is clearly completely out of his depth and we note, as was shown at the time, that Nigel Farage didn’t even bother sending his hireling a copy until after the event – having had one of his other hirelings mail the letter to Marta Andreasen.

Astonishingly as soon as the idiot Steve Crowther received a copy, making up for lost time and no doubt jockeying for position, he couldn’t wait and ask someone with some common sense what to do – he published the letter on an open forum.

Yes an open forum! It is clearly open as since it has been active I, and no doubt others, have been forwarded copies of anything seemingly relevant.

Surely, unprofessional and incompetent as UKIP clearly is, they can not imagine that there are not members of their rival parties and members of the media who have not become fully paid up members of UKIP to ensure they get the odd titbit to use as stories in the media – though you will note that UKIP has become so very insignificant nowadays about the only publicity has been taking the mick with crass stories of whose riding the Mare of Ramsey next and even self serving nutters exploiting UKIP’s own fruitcake: CLICK HERE

Surely UKIP’s crassly amateur and clearly duplicitous leadership and its parasites do not believe that there are no members on the inside track who are not interested in UKIP being cleaned-up and made fit for purpose once again.

Then of course in the corrupt clamour of the claque and even amongst the leadership there are those jockeying for positions with their snouts in the troughs on the gravy train who are all too willing to leak information to better their position. Ask yourself if this might not be the case with Steve Crowther undermining his sponsors position for his own gain with his all to Nooo Labour wrigglings and betrayals.

Naturally Steve Crowther’s publishing of Nigel Farage’s crassly incompetent letter has led to the inevitable public response:

May 29, 2011 7:35 pm – Posted by Marta in Uncategorized
Dear Nigel,
During the Politics Show last Sunday you stated that I had “not even been to the UK for several months”. You have failed to retract this untrue statement and instead raised further unfounded accusations.
The fact is that I have been and “been seen”- there is public record- in the UK regularly, raising UKIP´s credibility at important events as the voice of opposition.
A search on the Electoral Commission website returns only one donation made by you to the party in the last 10 years. The donation of 1,100 pounds sterling to the South East region was made in March 2009, that is before the last European election.
The code of conduct demanded that MEPs “set up an office in their region, funded from their Parliamentary general allowances”.  However your declaration of financial interests as it appears in the European Parliament website under your name , shows that in fact your office in the South East region is given to you free of rent by a member of the party. Now one wonders where and how you are actually using such allowance.
Contrary to what you state I corrected bookie Mr. Alan Bown about my having an office in Woking when he surprised me back in January in the presence of Mr. Stuart Wheeler with the accusation -which I now realize must have originated from you- that I did not have an office. The fact is that I fund my office – located in an office building in Woking – out of my parliamentary general expense allowance, the address having been registered with the Council, communicated to Head Office and it also appears in my newsletter.
From the above it is clear that it is you and not me the one who has failed to honor the famous code of conduct that we were asked to sign when we stood as candidates for election in 2009. Do you by any chance believe it does not apply to you?
Unfortunately you have decided to put this on the public domain even before I had the chance to read it, so this is going on my website.
Voters look for credibility which is what, in my view, your actions are not a representation of.
Sincerely,
Marta

Marta Andreasen MEP

Rue Wiertz, 60
ASP 4F154
B-1047 Brussels
Belgium
Tel: 0032 22845726
Email: marta.andreasen@europarl.europa.eu
Website: www.martaandreasen.com


From: michael.greaves@gmail.com
To: martaandreasen@hotmail.com; marta.andreasen@europarl.europa.eu
Subject: Letter
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 22:18:59

Dear Marta,
I have been asked to forward to you a letter from Nigel in the terms which you will see below my signature.
Yours sincerely,
Michael
As from:
ASP/4F158
Wiertzstraat 60
1047-Brussel
Belgium
Tel  (0032/0) 228 47855
Fax (0032/0) 228 49855
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ASP 4F 154
Wiertzstraat 60
1047-Brussel
Verenigde Konikrijk                                                      28.05.11
Dear Marta
Thank you for your letter of 23rd inst., in which, however, I quite fail to see how my saying, of you, “she hasn’t been seen in the UK for several months”, qualifies as “personal invective”, let alone slander!
This statement of mine was made in connection with your activities in the UK, as a UKIP-representative of the EU’s “South-East-of-England-Region”, in two areas, as follows.
1.  In relation to the recent, local and regional elections, in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland:  in my view, your involvement in campaigning for the Party, over the last few months, has been scant – not to say non-existent.  Were you, for example, in Oldham, Barnsley or Leicester, for the vital by-elections in those constituencies?
If you have been holding public meetings or branch/constituency events in the “South-East”, of course, then I may be overstating my case.  Kindly let me know if you have.
2.  In relation to promissory commitments made by you to UKIP, in the event of election to the EU’s “parliament”:  along with all of UKIP’s elected members, you signed a declaration consisting of a number of undertakings concerning the role of a UKIP-”MEP”.
One of these undertakings was to make legally acceptable donations, to UKIP, as a registered voter in the UK, which you have now wilfully ceased to be.
Another was to maintain an office in the constituency; and yet, when Mr Alan Bown enquired after the address of your South-East Constituency-Office, you were unable to provide him with one.
Overall, I feel that my comment, to the effect that you are not engaged with UKIP in the UK, is a fair one.  On the specific point of your political activity, in the UK, over the last few months, I would be happy to stand corrected and will happily say so.
Yours sincerely,
Nigel Farage

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#0236* – Nikki SINCLAIRE TRIES TO CLARIFY for UKIP MEMBERS

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#0236* – Nikki SINCLAIRE TRIES TO CLARIFY for UKIP MEMBERS!
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Nikki SINCLAIRE TRIES TO CLARIFY for UKIP MEMBERS!
CLEARLY UKIP IS UNFIT for OFFICE & HAS CONTEMPT for BRITISH COURTS & JUSTICE!
A COMPLETE FAILURE of ETHICS, INTEGRITY, MORALITY or PROFESSIONALISM by UKIP!

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An update on the Tribunal hearing.

UKIP, Farage and Bloom have applied to the Tribunal to have the judgement ‘set aside’ on the basis of an administrative error. That all three forgot they had to reply to the claims against them and there was a mix up in all three of their diaries. The ET rules were recently changed allowing respondents 28 days rather than 14 days to reply to allow for due consideration etc.

I note that Nigel was elected under the banner of professionalising the party and the new Party Secretary, Michael Greaves, a Barrister admits to have been at fault here.

The Tribunal Judge has decided not to accept their application without hearing their application IN PERSON and a hearing will be scheduled in due course. The rules state that at least 14 days notice must be given for a hearing. Therefore, currently the Judgement remains in force and the Remedy hearing postponed.

As this hearing will heard due to the negligence of UKIP, Farage and Bloom; they will be expected to pay the costs of all sides in full.

 
To see the original of this article CLICK HERE

No matter howmuch the proven dishonest like Skeptyk, Denny, McGough, Croucher and the like or fools like Baron, Stuart Parr or their like lie, distort and spin it is clear that their masters have yet again been ‘out to lunch’  when having made complete fools of themselves they had a duty of care to UKIP Members to ensure they resolved the mess their utterly unprofessional and crass behaviour had caused.


I must say I find it interesting that Michael Greave is portrayed by UKIP as Party Secretary yet they fail to show he is a Barrister which to me is a step beyond unprofessional into the realms of dishonesty having lied by omission in the most unprofessional manner.


Further it is interesting to note that UKIP’s Party Secretary is listed as a Civil Servant of The EU assigned to The EFD which is quite clearly a malevolent, malign racist, xenophobic and anti Jewish Pan EU Political Party Grouping that advocates and practices ilegal violence and several of its members have been incacerated for their criminal activities as with Holocaust Denial and overt support for The Nazi practices of the Germans!

We now find the Civil Servant Michael Greave a Barrister acting against an elected politician in a Court of law and acting for the defendant in a particularly odious display of unlawfull prejudice!

Perhaps we should not be surprised that The EU would thus corrupt the concepts of Justice nor in fact can it be seen as surprising that UKIP, which is ostensibly elected to OPPOSE Britain’s membership of The EU, is yet again seeking to use EU law to protect it from the consequences of their offences as perceived by British Courts.

UKIP leadership has a well proven track record of moral bankruptcy and contempt for British Justice and the Courts of Britain!

This is supposedly the professionalism promised by Nigel Farage to get himself elected!

Perhaps Michael Greave should consider his position if not in strictly legal terms at very least in moral terms where I would opine his position is utterly untenable – those who may wish for more detailed excuses might care to ‘e’Mail Michael Greaves wearing one of his seemingly conflicting ‘hats’ at:
Michael.Greaves@Gmail.com 
or call him if more convenient – on his mobile on: 0774 – 8632 806


One notes that the media, without exception, would seem to side with the Plaintiff and the judges decision – little is altered by the application for set aside – seemingly on the grounds of contempt for British Justice & the British Courts and founded on dishonesty and staggering incompetence.


Based on track record we can now, I presume, expect lies, distortions and abuse to be poured on my head for having had the temerity to publish the facts that I have been able to ascertain as I believe them to be.


On precedent we can expect desperate attempts at character assassination by the odious liars and cheats and as ever desp[ite the banshee screeches Skeptyk, McGough, Croucher, Stuart Parr, Douglas Denny and the revolting and dishonest claque of UKIP’s leadership will utterly fail to identify a single consequential inaccuracy in my postings – That will of course not prevent their lies and abuse nor the hopeless inadequate Anthony Butcher bowing to their demands and providing a platform for their defamation, for their lies and for their idiotic wrigglings.


Like maggots on a corpse where Butcher provides that rotten platforrn and they the decay and stench that surrounds UKIP’s leadership.


So due to Farage’s ‘professionalism’ not only has UKIP broken the law, it now acts without morality displaying contempt for Britain’s values, Courts and Justice. Increasingly it seems UKIP is a part of the problem but has no place in the solution for lack of moral, competent, honourable leadership EVER.
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