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Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/02/2009


Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%a bad name!



aware that EUkip NEC had reinstated Niall Warry – having done a little homework no doubt someone rather belatedly discovered that a mere bagattelle like a Judicial Review was of little consequence to him – it was a matter of principle and his resolve had been hardened to win by the manner in which supporters of the indisputably corrupt leadership, MEPs, NEC and senior employees were prepared to pick on him and try to defame him without doing the simplest of homework.

I had opted NOT to publish this fact to give EUkip a chance to act honourably for once – they did not and to date have not. The information has leaked to him from other sources besides myself. I had asked him to say nothing of it until he was officially informed.

To date EUkip has lacked the common decency to ‘give him a quick call and advise him a letter was on route’ nor had they the vaguest understanding of how to act honourably – and these pond life have the brazen front to claim to support British values!

If you have not read #3178 – CLICK HERE you may as yet be unaware as to why I am publishing the letters below, which I have had since they were written – another late owl read #317* – seemingly as soon as it was posted and in disgust opted to supply me with copies of the correspondence. That I had it already is not material – I have a great deal of EUkip correspondence and access to more if not most which is of consequence.

I tend not to publish verbatim material without a secondary source.

Make of this correspondence what you will but do ask if any of these members of The NEC or MEPs can in any way represent the values of our people. Their behaviour is on a par with such filth as McGough, Bannermann, Bob FM, Croucher, Malcolm Wood, Hugh Williams, Marta Andreasen, Nigel Farage, Graham Booth, Golom/Gulleford, Wittmore, George Curtis, Andrew Smith, Gerard Batten and sadly so many more that drag EUkip’s name into the gutter in which they reside.

Be minded that throughout many years of service to EUkip Niall Warry has NEVER gainsyed the party UKIP or its grass roots – though he has done much to try to clean up the befouled party particularly under the corrupt, dishonest and incompetent leadership of Farage.

Any Party that is incapable of robust discussion of aims, views and changes of direction can only be seen as having a lack of competent leadership and much to hide.

The more of the correspondence I publish the more you will realise they are unfit for office.

I have altered words and sequences within these letters to obfuscate my sources but I am happy to present them as evidence in Court both in this form and as I received them as I have NOT altered them with a view to alter meaning or intent.

Subject: Niall Warry case


Please consider this to be a personal email. I’m there merely to take minutes and give any reports when requested. I don’t want to be quoted on this as it’s not appropriate for me to comment publicly on NEC decisions especially given that I’m not on the NEC.

I have three questions further to the ones you raise which I believe support your position. My ‘gut’ feeling is with you on this one :

1. Would a judge really force a political party to have as a member someone that they do not want?

2. There was a note on the Head Office system saying that Niall Warry had stated he would not be renewing his membership. Therefore are we within our rights to treat that as a resignation that has been post-dated (and on which basis we did not take disciplinary action sooner), in which case this is in any case a new membership application and can be rejected?

3. The chance that this is a bluff must surely be very high – what does Niall Warry have to gain from taking legal action in order to get himself back into the party and then immediately suspended?

Jonathan Arnott

Subject: Re: Niall Warry case – reply – Douglas > Jonathan Arnott


Many thanks for your kind support and comments on this.

Indeed any e-mail to me is personal unless you say otherwise. I consider the medium in principle to be the same as a written letter.

I am frankly quite put out that we allowed ourselves to be railroaded by Warry into a ridiculous decision, with what is quite obviously a bluff intended to discommode us. It makes us look foolish and weak. I was surprised Nigel even looked like a soggy sheep and waffled about it.

It annoys me that we seem to be fire-fighting all the time instead of taking attacks like this face-on with hard resolve, and kicking them into touch. In fact if such cases ever get anywhere near a court, one can always make a retraction/apologies then at the first hearing which is enough to put a stop to it. .

As you say, Warry already had made it clear he had resigned – that was stated at the committee but everyone ignored its significance – and a verbal statement alone to that effect is enough of a contract in law to be applicable in any court. Furthermore he would never have the money himself to make a challenge in court, and anyone putting up the moolah would be utterly stupid risking wasting it on a very weak case, which would almost certainly go against with nearly 99.9% probability.

These two issues would never get beyond a letter or two between solicitors

If Ok with you I might put these further points of yours in another general e-mail to the NEC if there is no further response from MZ.

I will force his hand eventually or make him look a fool.

I have to say too that to me, MZ has proved himself to be a dubious P.Secretary. There have been a number of times when I have wondered about his competence as a lawyer.

I don’t mind saying that because I would happily say so his face (I would not say anything about someone behind their back that I would not be willing to say to their face). In fact have come close to doing so. The only reason I have not is for the sake of conciliatory harmony in the NEC, but it is not easy for my personal disposition to accept fools lightly, and those last two decisions lead by him which swung the NEC into unnecessary decisions are foolish enough by any standard in my opinion.

I know for a fact he deliberately will not answer anything to anyone, unless practically forced to, and complained to me once about being too busy to answer silly people asking silly questions – as he sees it. The whole idea of a PS is to deal with the queries coming in, and organise the direction of party business within his remit. He does not seem willing to do this, beyond narrow confines of what he deems suitable. My opinion is if he does not like the heat he should get out of the kitchen.

His other opinion about the alleged libel by Paul made by Abbott is another case in point – I am quite sure MZ is wrong in thinking any court would consider such a weak linkage to be a libel – and even if it did, they would most likely loose their own costs if not the whole case. It would never get that far.

We were railroaded into a weak position by a bluff again.

To put a libel case forwards it costs £20,000 + (that figure was from Zuckerman’s own mouth about libel mentioned in the past) – and no one is going to risk that kind of money on a weak case like that. Apparently another solicitor who actually deals with libel cases that Paul Nuttal knows thinks MZ is totally wrong.

That’s good enough for me.

Anyway – I shall wait to see if any further response then turn up the heat on Michael if he does not comply with my request to answer.

Best regards,

P.S. Hope you enjoyed your stay in Gibraltar. Did you win any chess?

Anyone who does not see within seconds the utter self serving duplicity of these people do mail me and I will revisit the matter.

As a second rate barrack room lawyer Denny consistently makes a fool of himself – blinded by his lack of morality and the huge and omni present chips on his shoulders.

Jonathan Arnott is merely a fool who was good at sums – she has shown absolutely no aptitude for leadership and the NEC is right to use him as little more than a stenographer as a substitute for an MP3/4 and a teas made!

He brings to the NEC no serious experience of anything of political value and less of commercial sense. He is an effete and useless lad who has every probability of growing up as a Bannerman – he had better relate himself to a desk as his cover at the first opportunity!


What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border. NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62


I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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