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#99* – Saturday 1st. Is The Start of Rebuild for UKIP.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/10/2008

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership & NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable

#99* – Saturday 1st. Is The Start of Rebuild for UKIP.

Hi,

Before we start I make the statement that David Bannerman, David Campbell, David Campbell Bannerman or what ever his real identity is is a fraud, a liar and a cheat whose involvement with EUkip has indisputably brought the party into disrepute.

May I also add there is a possibility he is still in the employ of the Tory Party to damage EUkip but it is a proven certainty that he is in the employ of the EU in direct breech of UKIP Constitution and Rules – for who is the Deputy Leader working? Clearly as he is a proven liar and NOT the person he claimed to be his word on anything is invalid and his membership of EUkip is invalid.

Firstly an apology – then a clarification for a correspondent who asked for clarification (Please add your own bullet points to suit clarity for yourself ;-), Then a couple of astonishing eMails from the Tory aid & EU employee the liar and fraud David The Desk – followed by a comment by me about his lies.Then a spot of VERY new information! & a bit more ‘stuff’.

Firstly my apologies for the quite genuine typo in the line below from #98* (apposite as it may be) it was a genuine error!

A Challenge for today – minded of the determination of the leadershit and NEC of EUkip to orchestrate a kangaroo court to debar those who wish to

Clarification:

>I would like to thank those who are beavering away in offices in the EU to ensure the members are kept informed.<

I mean here those who at risk of their position beaver away to seek to keep YOU informed by eMailing me copies of material in the absolute knowledge that in 10 years even those mailing it to me can not prove my sources 😉

Then a couple of astonishing eMails from the Tory aid & EU employee – the liar and fraud David The Desk:
‘I am sorry but you do not know half the story. Amongst other things, John West libelled me and reported Jeffrey Titford and Stuart Gulleford to the Essex police on trumped up charges – these have now been comprehensively dismissed as nonsense. He is now about to face serious disciplinary charges from a rich variety of complainants. Whilst there was one regrettable incident about YouTube, if anyone should apologise, it should be John West. Please disregard these GLW diatribes – he is out to undermine UKIP. We are not sure who he is working for, but we are determined to find out. His paymasters clearly do not have our interests at heart.
‘Best wishes,
David CB

Which Gained The Reply:

Dear Mr Bannerman,

I am in receipt, though a third party, of a letter which seems to be in general circulation.Would you like to justify the comments made in this email? Once again you have lied by claiming that I have libelled you.

You also lied when you claimed that I had reported you to the Police. I provided you with clear proof that I had not done so but I have still to receive an apology from you. To make matters worse you have made this lie public by circulating it to other members. You also mention Jeffrey Titford and Stuart Gullerford.

I approached senior officials of the party about this matter and my concerns were dismissed. When asked by the original complainant what action the party had taken I explained that nothing had been done. Therefore, in my capacity as a branch chairman, I had no option but to report to the Police what I saw as clearly a criminal breach of the Data Protection Act, together with apparent financial irregularities.

I also discussed this with my father, a former policeman, and was advised , subsequently confirmed by Essex police, that failure to report it would mean that both I and the original complainant could have been considered by the Police as ‘accessories after the fact’ for failing to report the alleged crime.

Further, in the interests of integrity, will you provide provenance for your claim regarding GLW?
I, like many others, deplore his style, but like you I am unable to refute his claims.

His endless string of leaks and statements of fact coming from the NEC, the EU and those close to it are now almost constant and yet the leadership seems unable to refute a single one of his allegations.

We the membership, look to a leader who will stand for probity, decency and morality. To slander people without proven substance is dishonest and demeans UKIP. I look forward to your speedy apology.

Yours Sincerely,
John West

followed by a comment by me about Bannerman’s lies:

To revisit the duplicity of the liar & fraud from the Tories David The Desk Bannerman:

>’I am sorry but you do not know half the story. Amongst other things, John West libelled me<

Bannerman – this is a lie as you are well aware. Just as is the pack of lies about your ancestry, which is almost as duplicitous as the CV you present relative to what can be found on the internet. As proven by the fact that I disproved the ‘crock’ that was peddled about you when you first parachuted in from the Tories to drag UKIP’s name into the gutter in which you live as a fantasist claiming fraudulent status and dishonest relationships.

I would contend that WHATEVER West said about you it would be impossible for you to make a claim of libel stand in court (even had he) as your public persona is a lie and it is thus imposible to libel you – one needs a stature and truth to establish a libel – you have neither.

>and reported Jeffrey Titford and Stuart Gulleford to the Essex police<

I have often noted that the corrupt at the top of EUkip seem to believe they have an entitlement to ignore the law yet bully and lie about their members and other to defend themselves.

There is no doubt that John West acted with total integrity in this matter – Do you David Campbell as a Tory claim that members of a political party in elected positions of trust should conceal what they perceive to be a crime?

A very straight and simple Yes or No answer will suffice!

>on trumped up charges<

You may recal that there was first a denial from EUkip sources that ANY report had been made!Then EUkip claimed there was no enquiry!

I note there is now an admission in part that there is a Police enquiry though you have lied again about the allegations – you have also dishonestly implied that Mr. West has the authority to bring ‘charges’.

As you KNOW (or imply you know) the allegations perhaps you should enumerate them and when unable to establish that they were trumped up and that there was perceived financial irregularity on SEVERAL counts and for numerous £1,000s and when you can not PROOVE there was no downloading of eMails of a private nature from PRIVATE eMail addresses perhaps you can do something honets for once in your life (since all we have seen of you is founded on lies) Your foulsome apology for your lies about Mr. West are long overdue.

> – these have now been comprehensively dismissed as nonsense.<

No sir they have not – this is another of your lies – though since the threatening letter did not actually threaten physical bodily harm or death the police have agreed with the complainant to drop that potential charge!

The matters of abuse of tax payers money and possible money laundering are I understand ongoing with OLAF, who when they have gathered the relevant information will take a view on what steps to take next – you may recall the time it took to bring Tom Wise to ‘arrest’ for what seem to be similar crimes of deception it seems.

As for the matter of the breech of trusty and abuse of computers that will remain an open investigation inactive pending direct complaint being made by those, such as the Chairman at the time and the General Secretary who had their private correspondence hacked into I understand.

I understand there are similar enquiries in the hands of OLAF pertaining to other individuals in the party particularly in the EU offices.On the strength of these FACTS I believe I have comprehensively proved that David The Desk has yet again been proven a liar.

> He is now about to face serious disciplinary charges from a rich variety of complainants.<

Yes this is true and a kangaroo court process is being set up to prevent him representing the members on the NEC as he was democratically elected to do. Further, interestingly, a number of known cheats and liars in the party have been solicited for spurious complaints that are clearly being encouraged in return for preferment and are thus being made on the grounds of malice for gain it seems.

We shall know more of the spead of corruption over the next few days as the liars are forced to surface with their self serving stories for the NEC orchestrated dishonesty.

Already, together with this eMail I have been sent an exchange of some 10+ eMails between Eric Edmond & various duplicitous and untrustworthy members of the EUkip NEC who are seeking to prevent him representing the 2,400 members who voted for him to represent their interests and the best interests of the party as he sees it.

Talking of trumped up charges you really must read the pompous drivel drawn up by this sad little failed Tory bag carrier – it is risible and that document alone would have an executive of a proper grown up company looking for a new job – This sordid little Tory liar has done NOTHING but bring EUkip into disrepute and has as you will be aware prostituted EUkip for HIS 30 pieces of silver as an EU employee.

>Whilst there was one regrettable incident about YouTube,<

’Regrettable’!!!! Regrettable!!

You really are a disgracefull little man Bannerman just how low will you sink for your own gain. The wording you are looking for if you had ANY integrity is ‘We deeply regret the criminal activity of a rogue employee who has been summarily dismissed without references or severance reward, we have written a letter of apology to Mr. West and his wife for any embarrassment, harm or damage they may perceive they have been cause and we as a Party and the responsible officers of the Party have unreservedly apologised and have clearly accepted our responsibility, we are obviously at the mercy of Mr. West to seek any reasonable damages however we hope that by adding him to the list in a draw for position and acting rapidly to acquit our duty in a manner we feel sure our members would wish we trust he will continue to work as a valued member of our party’.

Due to the incompetence of leadership EUkip now faces numerous related Court cases subsequent to which it is likely that Mr. West will, as with Mr. Page, seek punative damages – what staggering incompetence the leadership and NEC have shown!

>if anyone should apologise, it should be John West.<

What staggering arrogance from the unelected Deputy Leader of EUkip – on what grounds does this serial liar, bully, cheat and general Tory low life presume to to make so disgusting an allegation?Perhaps, other than perhaps style or syntax, has Mr. West done ANYTHING that he could be believed to

>Please disregard these GLW diatribes<

What? PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE disregard the facts provided by G.L-W. as we can not show that a single word exposing corruption, dishonesty, incompetence, lies and fraud in EUkip is so much as inaccurate let alone untrue.

That the egregious little filth – liar, fraud, cheat and dishonourable Bannerman who has been proven unreliable, unsound, bitchy and corrupt who can not, together with lawyers and all his corrupt colleagues, refute a single fact I have led seeks to BEG YOU not to believe the truth – how very EU!!!

> – he is out to undermine UKIP.<

Now that IS a libel as he has not one shred of evidence to back his lie and I am firmly and openly on record as wishing to destroy the corrupt and rotting head of EUkip to restore it to the members cleaned-up and distanced from the indisputable dishonesty and corruption that I and many others have proved and published.

Let us see if the liar David Bannerman, or whatever his real name is, is sufficient of a man to apologise for his proven libel.

>We are not sure who he is working for, but we are determined to find out.<

The corrupt in EUkip have been making these comments for many years and a measure of their incompetence is their abject failure to make anything but childish playground insults in any way substantiated. Meanwhile again and again I have exposed liar, cheats, fraud, corruption, slander and libel by these odious people – with the aim of strengthening UKIP in the hands of its members liberated from the rotten head that has brought its into such disrepute.

We DESPERATELY need a patriotic party that will strenuously and with integrity, facts, probity and morality strive to liberate these United Kingdoms from the EU.

>His paymasters clearly do not have our interests at heart. ‘<

Again the idiotic Bannerman seeks to libel me by inference – However he is correct as I seek to destroy corruption, as so clearly represented by this sordid plant from the Tories now working for the EU.

>Best wishes, David CB<
(Do YOU think this stands for Corrupt Bastard or Conservative Bufoon?)

To continue – http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FWi43FxW1hY may prove interesting as an example of corruption in EUkip and during the recent scam orchestrated by the leadership of EUkip to put in place their chosen cronies – Farage is firmly on record making it clear he cares not a jot what the lists state he will draw up lists to suit him in April – what Bannerman is just a seat warmer for someone Farage wishes to parachute in – someone like the turncoat Tory Bob Spink?

Then of course he is in a position to parachute in the foul mouthed Fuller as a reward for her lies and duplicity and other services – he may even find he is blackmailed into giving the odious liar and supporter of extremism Mark Croucher as number one in Deadweight Derek’s (Derek Clark MEP) fiefdom or the walking waistcoat, assuming he has his marital affairs sorted out, as a replacement for Trevor Colman who I note is already being spun against on the grounds of racism!!!

Bit rich coming from some of EUkip’s leadership!

You will be aware I have a great deal of material from EUkip offices in the EU and elsewhere pertaining to the series of Kangaroo Courts planned to remove those who wish to clean up EUkip and who are insisting on financial probity and the removal of those who have so obviously brought EUkip into disrepute.

Although EUkip is wriggling on the hoof (to mix a few metaphors!) and at the moment are TRYING to deny basic Justice and refuse the selected victims the right to defend themselves against the trumped up charges – should they obstruct the fundamental standards of decent behaviour on a balanced and fair basis clearly those who are being dishonestly victimised will have every right to clear their names and acquit their duties to the electorate and those who voted for them in the public arena – including the courts.

Let us see if EUkip NEC & Leadership who have participated in this immoral and disgracefull witch hunt, seemingly to ensure they can keep their interests and calumnies concealed should unreservedly apologise for the shameful behaviour and also those who instigated this corruption including Farage as leader, Bannerman as deputy leader, Zucherman as Party Chairman who is acting shamefully as a licensed solicitor!

Denny who has repeatedly lied, cheated and acted corruptly on public forums and elsewhere, Oxley for her malicious behaviour and dishonest representation of her legal opinion as informed! Clark for his betrayal of Britain and admitted frauds against the EU – then we can start, once these people have resigned, to clean up the remainder of the party with the help of OLAF, The Police, The Electoral Commission and put UKIP back on track as an organisation that is fit for people of integrity to vote for.

I shall, in the interests of restoring UKIP withhold the documents to hand to provide EUkip with an opportunity to undertake to commence the clean up themselves – however I reserve the right to act in any manner I believe will best serve my Country and the decent honest grass roots members who have had their party stolen by self seekers, self enrichers, spivs, petty crooks, liars and worse!

EUkip has until 17:00hrs. Friday 31st. October to publicly and unreservedly apologise to myself, John West, Del Young, Simon Muir, Richard Suchorzewski, Petrina Holdsworth, David Abbott, Niall Warry, Dr. Richard North, Ian Gilman, Peter Watson, Robin Page, Daniel Foggo, The Sunday Telegraph, The Sunday Times, Dr. Eric Edmond and others whom they have defamed, lied about, slandered and libelled – Further an undertaking will be made to appoint The Returning Officer Piers Merchant to conduct a full, fair and externally organised rerun of the application, selection and vote for MEP candidates – the NEC/Leadership will undertake as recompense of their collusion in the corruption to date to fully fund this process from their own pockets – those unwilling to co-operate in this first step to make UKIP electable shall resign such offices they hold recuse themselves from all future political activity save voting and surrender their office and their membership back to the new UKIP within 7 days.

I note there has been much talk of EUkip’s leadership moving to a night of the long knives – You ain’t seen nothing yet!

If they insist let their political blood be spilt to ensure rebirth. I will not withdraw from this battle for my Country nor give ANY quarter once the battle commences – the choice is entirely that of EUkip whether to continue in corruption or commence the clean up. The names of ALL who have been besmirched by the filth 5that has risen in EUkip WILL be cleared and various resignations are a given – let us see if EUkip gets the message in time.

I will meet with any member of the Party on any public platform to accept their apologies and their plans to clean up the party and restore it to the members – I will meet with any group publicly to debate the clean up of UKIP or destruction of EUkip. The choice is entirely yours.

This may well not be pretty but already we have a small but growing army of activists in place ready to campaign directly against EUkip during the elections and we have briefed media contacts who understand our position our actions are predicated on whether the leadership acts with integrity or continues in indisputable corruption – if the latter the exposures will be relentless and the corrupt will be harried on a daily basis, clearly we are aided by the Courts, the Police, The EU, the Electoral Commission and various other authorities.

Clearly we have unexpected sources on the NEC, over many years, leaks amongst staff, media and trusted members – people who appreciate that UKIP is finished and are VERY angry at seeing their efforts exploited and their Country betrayed.

May I ask ALL honest members of what was UKIP to circulate this as widely as they can and do all they can to clean up EUkip and restore it to the members and the peoples of Britain fit to elect – minded that the most recent poll showed that 95% of 10,000 people polled wished Britain to LEAVE the EU yet under its present leadership the membership has fallen the activists have collapsed and the support in elections varies between 1 & 3% as a norm save one freak vote when only 2 parties stood!

Help US to get Britain OUT of the EU and ensure British people make rules for British people, pay taxes to fund Britain and control their own borders.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

MAY I SUGGEST – since there is no political party of repute advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

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#98* – The Caterpillars & The Shredders??

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/10/2008

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership & NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable

#98* – The Caterpillars & The Shredders??

Hi,

A Challenge for today – minded of the determination of the leadershit and NEC of EUkip to orchestrate a kangaroo court to debar those who wish to represent the members and see the party cleaned up – the various (few) competent members who wish to introduce, structure, competence, professionalism, training and vision on an equitable, informed and moral basis replacing the anarchic distrust and chav like squabbling for better places at the trough or on the paths to the troughs of the gravy train it is interesting that I am no receiving as many as 5 copies of some of the correspondence from the NEC.

I would like to thank those who are beavering away in offices in the EU to ensure the members are kept informed.

I feel sure you will find the correspondence below all too indicative of the incompetence, ill manners and arrogantly hubristic chavs on the NEC and their puppet masters.

I wonder howmany have noticed there is almost no meeting deadweight Derek dare not attend – he is like the failing employee who leaves a jacket at his desk to stop people talking about him.

It is clear the contempt that many hold Clark in both for his dishonesty, his personality, his greed and his betrayal of the members, the Region who so foolishly elected him yet whom he has so betrayed by rigging committees and boasting of his methods of defrauding the tax payers whilst betraying our Country by acting as puppet for Farage and signing up to a concordance with the pro EU Ind. Dem. Group to place these United Kingdoms in greater subsidiarity to the corrupt and centralised EU and also to work with the EU to strengthen its committees and their control over Britain.

Whether the unscrupulous Derek Clark sees himself as some latter day Osric who like the present usurper seeks to reasonably mould the opposition, whatever the games he plays he does not even match up to Dungeons and Dragons and in fear of his place at the trough he dare not turn his back for fear of meeting with the fate of Hamlet’s Osric.

Derek Clark has proved a disgrace and his continued support of the betrayal of Britain does nothing but bring EUkip into disrepute – ensuring further failure in the elections of 2009 whether the enquiries of OLAF have come to fruition in time or not.Let us consider the offering I have been provided with recently (very), for which the individual is to be applauded and it may interest them to know that the second copy came in from another country within 15 minutes of the first!

On Tue, 21/10/08, john west wrote:
From: john west johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: Data Protection Act
To: ‘Abbott Dr.David (SE_Winchester)’ , ‘alanbown@btinternet.com’ , ‘cgill36@hotmail.co.uk’ cgill36@hotmail.co.uk>, ‘DAVID ABBOTT’ , ‘DAVID BANNERMAN’ , ‘del young’ del1young@yahoo.co.uk>, ‘Derek Clark’ , ‘douglas.denny@btopenworld.com’ , ‘Eric Edmond’ , ‘eric.edmond@tiscali.co.uk’ , ‘Farage MEP. Nigel (LEADER)’ , ‘jill_seymour@btopenworld.com’ , ‘lisa.duffy2@tesco.net’ , ‘martaandreasen@auna.com’ martaandreasen@auna.com>, ‘mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk’ , ‘Paul Nuttall’ , ‘rjoxley@lineone.net’ , ‘susan@keymerhaslam.co.uk’
Date: Tuesday, 21 October, 2008, 10:53 AMFor the attention of the Party Chairman Copied to the NECDear Mr Nuttall, I am writing to you concerning my Data Protection request.

The 40 day period has now expired and UKIP has still not complied with my request.

I am sending you another copy of my original letter. You now have exactly seven days to comply with the requirements of the Act. Failure to comply with Section 7 of the Data Protection Act is a criminal offence and will result in a complaint being made to the Information Commissioner’s Office.

I thank you for returning my original cheque for £10 and thereby undertaking to fulfil your duties under the Act free of charge.

Please do not claim that you do not posses the material requested as I am fully aware that various documents and emails concerning me exist.

These include a letter sent by Nigel Farage to Brian Barter, a member in Suffolk Coastal, the George Curtis report, the Piers Merchant report, the Political Committee’s report and numerous NEC and Eastern Region Committee emails.

I look forward to receiving all the documents and emails as requested in my original letter.

Yours sincerely,
John WestChairman
UKIP Ipswich & East Suffolk
Secretary UKIP Suffolk Coastal

> >Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:55:23 +0000
> >From: ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk
> >Subject: Re: Data Protection Act
> >To: johnwest81@hotmail.com

> >> >Dear John
> >> >After taking legal advice, I am advised to inform you to refer to the letter sent to you by Dr. Whittaker on 11 September 2008.
> >> >Best wishes
> >> >Paul Nuttall

From: johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Data Protection Act
Date: Wed,
For the attention of the Party Chairman
Copied to the NEC

Dear Paul,

Thank you for your email.

Once again your response is totally inadequate. As Party Chairman you are obliged by law to supply me with all the documents as requested under Section 7 of the Data Protection Act.

May I remind you that this law was passed by Parliament and can’t be ignored. Does the leadership think that they are above the law and can ignore the consequences of their actions indefinitely? UKIP is already the subject of complaints to the Information Commissioners Office and the Police following the leak of my MEP video interview onto You Tube.

Please don’t force me to make another complaint. Time and time again the leadership has brought the party into disrepute.

They have refused to apologise for the You Tube video leak , denied me my elected seat on the NEC, refused to discipline Michael Zuckerman and Douglas Denny for claiming that both Eric Edmond and myself suffer from mental illness, refused to open an investigation into the rigged MEP selection process, thrown an elected member off the NEC, refused to confirm or deny the claim that Miss Fuller is still working for Nigel Farage, refused to discipline Peter Reeve and Ron Whitmore for their unlawful attempt to throw me off the Suffolk Coastal Committee and so on.

How many more scandals will it take before the NEC finally wakes up and starts to realise that UKIP is falling apart under its current leader? I am also fully aware that there are plans to bring several members before a disciplinary committee. My name has already been mentioned as being on that list. I have been sent an email that confirms this.

I understand that this will be done prior to the NEC elections in order to prevent certain individuals standing for the NEC. No doubt these committees will also be rigged to get the desired result! Rather than deal with the serious corruption in UKIP the leadership seeks instead to silence those of us who wish to see democracy and integrity restored to UKIP. How very EU! Paul, how can we expect the British electorate to support us when we can’t even keep our own house in order? I had hoped that you would be different from your predecessor.

I had hoped that, unlike John Whittaker, you would resist Farage’s dictatorial attitude and stand up for the interests of the members.

It seems that I misjudged you. However, I still hope that you will prove me wrong. I strongly suggest that you supply me with the required data. I also strongly advise you to stop listening to misguided legal advice from Mr Zuckerman or Miss Oxley.

You have exactly 24 hours to confirm that you will supply me with the required data as requested under Section 7 of the Data Protection Act.

Failure to agree to supply it will result in a formal complaint being made to the Information Commissioners Office on Friday.

Yours sincerely,
John West
Chairman UKIP Ipswich & East Suffolk
Secretary UKIP Suffolk Coastal

It is quite staggering the crass muddle EUkip’s leadership and NEC have got themselves into.It is clear that they lack, in terms of leadership or managerial competence, integrity or any understanding of morality and gentlemanly conduct the slightest smidgeon of ability – but then again their leader had to depend on lies and dishonesty and the spending of a great deal of other people’s money to seize the leadership.

By the by as an aside had you noted that EUkip’s web site is so fundamentally biased that a debate in Cambridge is presented as a great achievement despite the undeniable fact that the fraudulent liar and cheat David the desk Bannerman lost the debate hands down whether due to his incompetence or his being utterly discredited in the eyes of decent people I could not guess.

It must by now be obvious to a huge percentage of the electorate that he is only acting as a placeholder in the lead position in the Eastern Region as his dishonesty is beyond all reasonable doubt – it is so marked that his place on the NEC is no longer legitimate nor as a candidate – the man brings EUkip into disrepute but then again it is not unreasonable to ponder for which of his masters he is doing this.Do not forget that he was sent over to EUkip replete with the story of the desk from The Tories where he had been salaried – the better informed amongst you will recall Stephen Sobey did likewise complete with cover story.

Bannerman now has a double reason for betrayal of members of UKIP in that he is also now salaried by the EU – he has proved to be dishonourable, a fraud, a liar, a cheat and NOT the person he claimed to be to gain acceptance and preferment in the first place – exactly the type of cover story the Tories provided for Stephen as you may recall!

When will EUkip wake up and rid itself of people like Clark, Denny, Smith, Bannerman, Colman, Duffy, NutAll, Oxley, Moran, and others who so clearly offer nothing of merit to the membership whatever value they may be as yes men and puppets for the leadership.

It is these odious people who are used by the incompetent leadership to buffer them against those who would see EUkip cleaned up and restored to the members as a party fit for people of integrity to vote for – when you consider in a rwecent media poll over 90% of the voters, be that self selected or not, voted to leave the EU yet under the present lack of leadership and misguidance the best they seem able to manage by votes is 1-3% as a party!

I do appreciate that Farage and those who seek to feed from the crumbs he spills them, almost unanimously seek to blame their failures on others – whether the their old associates the BNP or their critics. It is astonishing just how dishonestly they claim that I and others are damaging the party and bringing it into disrepute – have they not considered that all we do is report their shameful behaviour?

Friends in the media assure me that although EUkip is of absolutely no interest to their editors they are storing the details from eMails and the Forum that come their way – you must be aware of the damage EUkip’s leaders have done and the strength of the enemies they have made.

If you doubt me why not call the Barry plumber or the Press Office and establish how long after a foolish posting was made about duping people relative to a charity and hit numbers or some such was published by the pipe bender just how soon were the mainstream media onto the matter. Similarly whence do you imagine I obtained the details of Tom Wise’s renewal of bail, subsequently confirmed elsewhere.

It is interesting to note that despite the protestations for public consumption from the leadership Tom Wise is a fully paid up member of EUkip, until last week I understand he was still the Chairman of at least one EUkip branch and I understand that although he is in public denounced by Farage as chairman of the pro. EU Ind.Dem.Group he was until but a few days ago the custodian of the EUkip Ind.DemGroup battle bus which was parked up on his patch.

Interestingly I note the London Branch of EUkip now has its web site up and running provided by a member of the Libertarian Party!! Further I note that they make much of having converted a number of Tories with unpronounceable names who had gathered as a branch, these newcomers to British politics have abandoned the Tories in favour of supporting Gerald Button yet the animosity and contempt of Farage and The Desk is such that no mention of this apparent coup would seem to have appeared on the EUkip main web site – obviously The Desk’s drubbing in the Cambridge debate is more promotable!!

I wonder if the fact that Zucherman would seem to be prepared to prostitute his professional qualifications, seemingly in return for the orgasmic thrills of having a chance of being an MEP – it seems that in return for favours that keep Bannerman the desk in position and kangaroo courts orchestrated by him to ensure only puppets are permitted a voice he can expect assistance in the removal of the choclate Button who will be forced to melt away for lack of support thus Zucherman can ride the desk to their Nirvana – the feeding troughs of the gravy train in the EU.It does look very much that way from other correspondence I have received from EU sources – though as I said yesterday, on all that data I currently choose to keep my powder dry – more to rebuild UKIP than to expose and bury EUkip.

Farage old son do not flatter yourself – you are the greatest asset the BNP has at the moment and I assure you from what I hear the last thing they would want is you to loose the leadership as currently on the domestic scene as leader you are to the BNP as you are to the EU as an MEP – a recruiting sergeant and useful idiot – even your membership, as they drift away, are increasingly aware of your duplicity and just how much you have4 done to aid the Tories, the BNP and the EU.

Just look at the calibre of people you have had to gather around you to prop you up – not individuals of strength integrity and stature that would add to your possible appearance of gravitas but spivs, con men, self seekers, frauds, cheats and liars.

WELL DONE & haven’t you made a lot of enemies amongst the true patriots of Britain – had EUkip had a leader of stature a structure, training, trust and organisation just think how little the BNP, The EDP, The etc. etc. parties would have achieved.Farage – your ignorance, arrogance and lack of loyalty is so beneath contempt that you have made enemies you will NEVER escape – do you think the Wests, Pages, Abbotts, Conninghams, Suchorzewskis, Holdsworths, Harveys, Crosses, Hasslams, Warrys, Edmonds, Lawsons, Watsons, Chants, Webbs, Hockneys, Masons, deRouks, Battens, Gillmans, McWhirters, Kingscotts, Schofields, Wessons, Troy,s, Silks, Knapmanns, Youngs, Colliers, Hockneys, Norths, Steads, Butchers, Parsons, Herrons, McConnachies, Colmans, Bennett, Muirs, Padmores and so many more whom you betrayed, supporters and friends who will NEVER relent after your treatment of them?

What a sorry mess you have made of your life when those YOU believe to be your supporters and friends are supplying me with correspondence and phoning with facts to bring you and your leadership down to give UKIP a chance.

Even your various Tory friends who phone to inform me of your latest idiocies as with your stupidity with Declan Ganley that will prove so damaging to EUkip in the long run and you makre no friends in Ireland I gather with your posturings of the part you played in their opposition to the New Constitution Lisbon Treaty. A conspicuous and cowardly silence thus obliging your mates and masters in the EU and the Tory Party!

I do believe that based upon the FACTS and considering the majority, including those who support these people It is REASONABLE to describe EUkip’s self seeking venal leadership and NEC as not only clearly and provably corrupt but little more than a bunch of spivs, barrow boys and petty crooks.

EUkip is finished unless it is cleaned-up and cleaned up FAST – even then it may well not survive.

I have literally DOZENS more letters and around 100 pages of documentary provenance to back my contention and I receive authentic material from various offices in the EU which of course includes offices in participant countries.

I CHALLENGE the leadership of EUkip to a debate to defend themselves – they are by a majority beneath contempt.

Just to round up you will no doubt be disgusted to know that the unarguably dishonest, incompetent, corrupt and unprofessional Andrew Smith would seem to be working in cahoots with the cowardly and dishonest George Curtis, who so bravely lies about people when he believes his lies will not be exposed – George Curtis is clearly a liar and when I challenged him regarding some lies he had invented about me and published – he spluttered and mumbled but lacked the moral fibre to withdraw his lies and lacked the integrity to apologise – a sordid little man! It seems he makes a habit of telling lies as proven by his response regarding the lies he published about Robin Page and also I understand John West.

Do note however that the self selected, in that there was NEVER a valid vote, the self proclaimed bunch of rascals on the so called Eastern Region Committee – which you will note has received Votes of no confidence from Bedford Branch, Fenland Branch and also some 21 separate branches under the Newmarket Declaraqtion – they are now so out of touch with the party but so determined to keep their snouts in EUkip’s troughs that I understand George Curtis will be cock a hoop as Andrew Smith wants the committee to act in its own interests NOT those of the membership by having members sign a gagging order that they will not let the people they represent know what fiddles they are upto, I understand that John Saunders was not enamoured of such a gagging order in fact I gather he positively up chucked and I understand has now been widely quoted by the BNP.

This is shamefull and makes EUkip look little better than the early days of Adolph Hitler – soon no doubt they will have their own brown shirts – shaven headed chavs as enforcers!It does seem the main function of EUkip is as a recruiting sergeant for the BNP – what an obscene realisation!

No individual of ANY integrity or intelligence is likely to put his name or his money to support this crooked bunch of losers – who clearly have managed the demise of a dream sinking it in squabbling, lies, greed, distrust and corruption – no wonder their only backer of note made his money as a professional gambler – it is also worthy of note that it would seem EUkip has been unable to find a reputable British Firm of Reputable Accountants to present their books and have had to seek out a pro EU Danish woman living in Spain and it will be noted she had to be bribed at a cost of £36,000 PLUS expenses to sign the cheques on a part time basis – yet happily signed of the accounts at the business meeting when it was not just apparent but blatantly clear she had ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE OR UNDERSTANDING of important areas of the accounts.

No wonder no one of repute has stepped forward to fund the party and it has failed to recruit a single solitary politician of credible stature – just one failed Tory MP looking for a way to keep his snout in the trough!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#97* – The Caterpillars Seem To Be Losing!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/10/2008

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership & NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable

#97* – The Caterpillars Seem To Be Losing!!

Hi,

Subsequent to a series of eMails I published recently which passed by a conclusive majority votes of no confidence in the so called Regional Committee in the Eastern Region and also NO CONFIDENCE in Peter Reeve the Regional Organiser who it seems is seen as dishonest, self interested, corrupt and incompetent.

Now I have been sent a further series of eMails from the EU – fortunately there are deeply planted leaks in EUkip who despite their positions are prepared to put their elected positions and salaried jobs at risk in supplying me with facts to clean up EUkip to make it a party people of integrity could possibly vote for on a Patriotic basis.

Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:39:09 +0100
From:
To: reeve@ukip.org
Subject: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: FW: South West Branch]]

Pete,
thanks for letting us know,but as you can read in Marta’s email we need to know a date of when that meeting will take place,can you find out and let me know.
Many thanks
Andrew

——-Original Message——-

From: PETER REEVE
Date: 10/17/08 09:22:55
To:
peter cole(home)
Subject: FW: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: FW: South West Branch]]

Hi Peter Cole Thanks for your email, please could you let me know when your meeting to select a new chairman is going to be?

Peter Reeve
Regional Organiser
UKIP Eastern Counties

Peter Cole wrote:

Mr Reeve

Rest assured, the moment you start to answer my e-mails to you I will answer yours!

Peter Cole

From: UK Independence Party [mailto:ukipho@btconnect.com]
Sent: 21 October 2008 10:53
To: Peter ColeSubject:
Re: FW: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: FW: South West Branch]]

Peter,
Good morning. With regards to your branch,the reason Head Office needs a name of the chairman for this branch is that the Party Treasurer needs to make a return to the Electoral Commission detailing all branches with are currently active. I am informed that you are due to hold a meeting presently to vote for one.But, as to not close the branch or to fall foul of not having a treasurer and chairman of an active branch, can I suggest you put your name forward to act as interim chairman until such time as one is elected.RegardsAndrew
From: Peter Cole [mailto:peterc@tomwisemep.co.uk] Sent: 27 October 2008 11:43To: ‘UK Independence Party’Cc: Subject: RE: FW: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: FW: South West Branch]]
Good morning Andrew

A meeting of UKIP South West Bedfordshire Branch was held yesterday, Sunday 26th October 2008 where Mr Tom Wise MEP stood down as Chairman and elected in his place by the paid up members, I, Peter Cole was elected as Chairman of the Branch, Mrs Janet Wise remains as Treasurer and Mr John Saunders as Secretary.

Would you kindly send me an up-to-list list of S.W.Branch members please and also a list of member in the Branch whose membership has expired during the last 12 months.

Two Motions were also passed at the meeting (more than 21 days notice to all paid up Branch Members was given as per Party rules):
Motion 1, a vote of NO CONFIDENCE IN THE EASTERN COUNTIES REGIONAL ORGANISER this was unanimously carried.

Motion 2, a vote of NO CONFIDENCE IN THE EASTERN COUNTIES COMMITTEE was also unanimously carried.

Regards
Peter
Peter Cole
UKIP Branch Chairman, South West Bedfordshire Branch.

From: FARAGE Nigel [mailto:nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu]
Sent: 27 October 2008 12:14
To: Peter Cole
Subject: RE: FW: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: FW: South West Branch]]

Dear Peter

Congratulations on your election, as Chairman of SW Beds., which does indeed entitle you to receive regularly up-dated membership-lists (including recently-expired memberships) for your area.

However, such lists are kept by Head Office, at Newton Abbot, in Devon – not here in Brussels – and should be sent out to you, from there, on receipt of the Secretary’s official notification, to David Challice (Head Office Coördinator) of a change in the Branch’s officers.

I am sorry to hear of these votes-of-no-confidence, which I hope, neverthless, will lead to a settlement acceptable to all right-thinking members.

Yours sincerely

Andrew S. Reed

(Office of Nigel Farage, Brussels)

Dear Andrew,

Thanks for your e-mail and kind words, the letter I sent out was in fact written to HQ and copied to Nigel and indeed the NEC.

I too am very sorry that members are so upset firstly with Peter Reeve and his lies and his lack of interest in our Branch and now secondly the chairman of the Eastern Counties Committee who has also decided to lie and not answer e-mails, it is a very sorry state.

As you know the ‘Newmarket Declaration’ has still not been answered.

All members should be listened to by the leaders, the work to get people elected comes from the foot soldiers out there, without them UKIP is a lost cause. I can see if the problems in the Eastern Counties are not solved soon there will be a major split, this will certainly do UKIP tremendous harm and I personally want Great Britain OUT of the EU, I gave up my business to fight for this cause but it appears because of written and spoken lies I am on a losing battle and many members agree with this statement.

I send you my best wishes

Peter
Peter Cole

Interestingly I have also received some of the paper work which it seems some of the dishonest members of EUkip’s leadership aim to use to secure their positions with snouts in the troughs at the expense of democracy, credibility and integrity within the party.

You may be interested to note that a part of the scam EUkip’s leadership seek to perpetrate on the membership is to issue VERY dubious attempts to bring about Disciplinary Cases based on various trumped up nonsense – this will suffice for their corrupt purposes as it will debar all but those they wish to put forward for positions on the NEC.

Do not forget that those who wish to stand for the NEC, which will almost definitely be rigged as with previous so called ‘votes’ held within EUkip, The first step is to block certain individuals by placing them before disciplinary complaints – however trumped up and however risible.

Consider for a starter who is making the complaints and you will almost deffinitly have identified a liar or at best one of the leadership toadies.

I believe that a majority of the leadership including the NEC are so fundamentally corrupt, incompetent and dishonest that they are unworthy of votes – whether in the ilk of the fraud, liar, cheat and failure David The Desk Bannerman who is also an EU employee a sad little man beneath contempt.

Or alternatively the proven liar, cheat and corrupt Douglas Denny who is clearly unfit and has repeatedly brought EUkip into disrepute in public an obscene foul mouthed little man unfit to speak for anyone let alone the decent members of what was UKIP.

Then we have Ms. Duffy whose election was not only implausible in terms of result but was founded on dishonesty and corruption – a woman unfit not only for office as a cheat but also unfit as an example for EUkip Yooof.

Then we have the fundamentally ridiculous junior school teacher – you will have seen some of her ridiculous actions and idiotic opinions on legal matters that make a mockery of the party and unarguably bring it into disrepute.

Consider the tired and spent Christopher Gill who has so clearly brought EUkip into disrepute with his abrogation of duty both in terms of overseeing the corrupt rigging of the selection scam for MEP candidates.

Also do be aware of how disgracefully this poor old man has let EUkip down.I do not believe that based upon the FACTS and considering the majority including those who support these people It is REASONABLE to describe EUkip’s self seeking venal leadership and NEC as not only clearly and provably corrupt but little more than a bunch of spivs, barrow boys and petty crooks.EUkip is finished unless it is cleaned-up and cleaned up FAST – even then it may well not survive.

I have literally DOZENS more letters and around 100 pages of documentary provenance to back my contention.I CHALLENGE the leadership of EUkip to a debate to defend themselves – they are by a majority beneath contempt.

Just to round up you will no doubt be disgusted to know that the unarguably dishonest, incompetent, corrupt and unprofessional Andrew Smith would seem to be working in cahoots with the cowardly and dishonest George Curtis, who so bravely lies about people when he believes his lies will not be exposed – George Curtis is clearly a liar and when I challenged him regarding some lies he had invented about me and published – he spluttered and mumbled but lacked the moral fibre to withdraw his lies and lacked the integrity to apologise – a sordid little man!

It seems he makes a habit of telling lies as proven by his response regarding the lies he published about Robin Page and also I understand John West.

Do note however that the self selected, in that there was NEVER a valid vote, the self proclaimed bunch of rascals on the so called Eastern Region Committee – which you will note has received Votes of no confidence from Bedford Branch, Fenland Branch and also some 21 separate branches under the Newmarket Declaraqtion – they are now so out of touch with the party but so determined to keep their snouts in EUkip’s troughs that I understand George Curtis will be cock a hoop as Andrew Smith wants the committee to act in its own interests NOT those of the membership by having members sign a gagging order that they will not let the people they represent know what fiddles they are upto, I understand that John Saunders was not enamoured of such a gagging order in fact I gather he positively up chucked and I understand has now been widely quoted by the BNP.

This is shamefull and makes EUkip look little better than the early days of Adolph Hitler – soon no doubt they will have their own brown shirts – shaven headed chavs as enforcers!It does seem the main function of EUkip is as a recruiting sergeant for the BNP – what an obscene realisation!No individual of ANY integrity or intelligence is likely to put his name or his money to support this crooked bunch of losers – who clearly have managed the demise of a dream sinking it in squabbling, lies, greed, distrust and corruption – no wonder their only backer of note made his money as a professional gambler – it is also worthy of note that it would seem EUkip has been unable to find a reputable British Firm of Reputable Accountants to present their books and have had to seek out a pro EU Danish woman living in Spain and it will be noted she had to be bribed at a cost of £36,000 PLUS expenses to sign the cheques on a part time basis – yet happily signed of the accounts at the business meeting when it was not just apparent but blatantly clear she had ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE OR UNDERSTANDING of important areas of the accounts – no wonder no one of repute has stepped forward to fund the party and it has failed to recruit a single solitary politician of credible stature – just one failed Tory MP looking for a way to keep his snout in the trough!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#96* – Don’t study Maggots Without A Strong Stomach!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/10/2008

#96* – Don’t study Maggots Without A Strong Stomach!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership & NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Hi,

Firstly may I take this opportunity of thanking Len Baynes for having the good grace and integrity to publicly appologise for having dishonestly made an accusation against me and when challenged and finding he was unable to substantiate his claim he had the wisdom and fundamental decency to withdraw his false and unfounded accusation and appologise.

Thank – you Len and as far as I am concerned the matter is not only history but is accepted as being an error that is as if it had never happened and may I wish you good luck in your efforts to clean up EUkip and make it electable for people of integrity in the best way you see fit.Unfortunately it would seem that Bruce Lawson is, unlike Len Baynes, a fool without integrity, short of morality and utterly untrustworthy as proven by his abuse, harassment and bullying threats which he was neither man enough to substantiate nor wise enough to apologise for.

Bruce Lawson is clearly a pompous self important self imprest pratt who whilst Treasurer of EUkip failed in his claimed intent, abrogated on his duty and has proved untrustworthy having published confidential correspondence written and received in a position of trust as Treasurer – a duty and responsibility he freely accepted yet betrayed by publishing confidential material on his wersonal web site under the guise of UKIP – Mr. Lawson you are no gentleman and not to be trusted even amongst the odious scum that would seem to have floated to the top of EUkip.

Having been proven a bully and dishonest you have clearly failed to have the integrity to appologise when proven in the wrong – may I suggest that you stick to impressing yourself in the shaving mirror for the standard of behaviour you have displayed impresses no individual or integrity or morality and falls far short of the behaviour any gentleman would have the right to expect.Both EUkip & UKIP are well rid of you and it is to be hoped you never bring your contemptible lack of morality to the body politic ever again as it befould the aims of liberty and the values we seek to re-establish in Britain.

On the matter of irresponsibility and EUkip being brought into disrepute one need look no further than a letter I received from the NEC late this evening wherein it is clear that in its irresponsibility EUkip’s leadership and NEC bring the party into disrepute by failing to act with decency, integrity and morality – this time in the matter of refunding the money quite clearly owed to John West – in as far as it was obtained from him and EVERY other EUkip candidate in the dishonest selection of those the leadership wanted appointed on their list of MEP candidates.

That the process was dishonest is clear in two very clear aspects:

Christopher Gill the ex Tory MP was appointed to oversee the application phase and he utterly failed to acquit his duty and then like a pussy cat rolled on his back to oblige the leadership – having dishonourably failed to acquit his duty both in deserting his post to suit HIS convenience supposedly/claimed on holiday and also displaying his utter incompetence by failing expeditiously to answer correspondence and failing in his duty of care under the law relative to The Data Protection Act or the control of the staff working for him.

Christopher Gill’s behaviour was nothing less than shamefull and a disgrace and any man of calibre would have had the integrity to tender his irrevocable resignation having brought EUkip into such disrepute.

2.)
We must consider the selection process as irrelevant and invalid as shown by The Returning Officer, the facts I have published and the mailings of Ms. Lynnda Robson & Mr. Robin Page.

Clearly the positions of such as:
Bannerman (a Fraud, liar and cheat employed by the EU!),
Tiny Tim Whatzit (Resident in Portugal and thus not fulfilling requirements),
Ms. Andreassen (an alien with no plausible interest in Britain beyond the money scammed from EUkip, a track record of being pro. EU, resident in Barcelona, Spain and having failed to comply with the rules)

WHERE WAS GILL? It was Gill’s DUTY to oversee a fair & just selection process – Gill FAILED as has been made very clear.

CONSIDER:

Letter 01:

Date: Monday, 20 October, 2008, 5:00 PM
For the attention of the Party Chairman
Copied to the NEC

Dear Mr Nuttall,

I am still waiting for the return of my £250 deposit. In a previous email to you I requested the return of this money as it was obtained under false pretences. The MEP selection process was clearly unfair, dishonest and rigged to benefit certain individuals. The report on the MEP section/ election process written by Piers Merchant, the Returning Officer, proves this beyond doubt.

Indeed, he recommended that a special committee be appointed to investigate the whole selection process in the East. The NEC’s failure to follow his advice is simply another example of how it has brought the Party into disrepute by failing to deal with the corruption and dishonesty that now threatens to destroy UKIP.

Unfortunately, rather than deal with the genuine concerns raised by myself and others it apparently now plans to conduct a witch-hunt in order to remove those of us who have had the courage to fight for honesty, accountability, decency and transparency. How very EU! If the Party should decline to co-operate I will have no choice but to follow the steps taken by Lynnda Robson and take legal action. I am now in contact with Ipswich County Court. Unless I receive a cheque for £250, plus £20 interest, within seven days I will instigate legal proceedings against UKIP.

Yours sincerely,
John West
Chairman UKIP Ipswich & East Suffolk
Secretary UKIP Suffolk CoastalLetter

Letter 02:

Subject: Re: Legal action against UKIP
To: johnwest81@hotmail.com

Dear John

After taking legal advice, the party has concluded that you have no right to ask for the return of £250.

Best wishes
Paul Nuttall

Letter 03:

Subject: RE: Legal action against UKIP
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:12:27 +0000

Dear Paul,

I am saddened that you are prepared to listen to misguided legal advice from, I presume, Michael Zuckerman.

You will be aware that your own returning officer’s report ( now in the public domain) expressed grave concerns about the selection process and recommended that a sub-committee be appointed to investigate the whole matter. The NEC, of course, ignored his recommendations. It is quite clear that the whole selection process was rigged to favour certain candidates.

What saddens me is your willingness to go along with this corruption and dishonesty. You did tell me upon becoming chairman that you would be ‘a new broom’. You forgot to mention that you would be using the same handle! You have already conceded your liability to refund the money by refunding Lynnda Robson’s deposit, plus costs. If the selection process had been fair the leadership would have contested her claim in court. You also returned Robin Page’s deposit for the same reason.

Paul, your response is wholly inadequate. May I suggest that you obtain competent legal advice from someone other than Michael Zuckerman as both my wife and I will be taking UKIP to the Small Claims Court.

Yours sincerely,
John West
Chairman UKIP Ipswich & East Suffolk
Secretary UKIP Suffolk Coastal

Letter 04:

Subject: FW: Legal action against UKIP
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:33:12 +0000

Dear Paul,

I have now issued a county court claim against UKIP.

You gave me no other choice.

Yours sincerely,
John West

CONCLUSION:

I presume that John West has lodged a statement in full and also has lodged the supportive evidence of the rules AND the Returning Officer’s very clear report placed in the public domain.

It will be noted that to prove the process was fair John West is entitled to demand copies of the cheques paid by EVERY other member with proof their check was cleared, also the CRB checks for each and every applicant should be lodged in confidence with the Court together with proof of their residency and voter role entry.

I understand Lynnda Robson made such an application and it would seem EUkip leadership knew they would loose through the Courts for EVERY entrant in the failed process and not only refunded Lynnda Robson’s £250.00 but also have paid her expenses.

Similarly I understand that £250.00 was paid to Robin Page as the first acceptance of fault on their part and as the first stage in such claims for damages he will eventually seek! In that Robin Page was within 4 votes of election at the last EU Election and this only because it seems Tom Wise abused his access to the membership lists and self promotion in his EU employed capacity at the time. This time there is no competent candidate notable in the Eastern Region and thus it would be reasonable then, I presume, for Robin Page to make damages claim for the loss of potential income as an MEP!!!

This may be fanciful but you must be aware that the lead candidate will not be able to stand eventually as he has brought EUkip into disrepute as a fraud, a liar, a cheat having proved a failure in the Tories he came to EUkip based upon lies and dishonesty which befoul the reputation of EUkip – this he has compounded by taking a job with the EU with an undertaking to act in a manner directly contra his position with EUkip. As the realisation that he is beneath contempt in his exploitation of EUkip for his personal gain integrity will overcome pity on the part of EUkip and he will have no option but to resign – even based on his corrupt morality!

The number 2 is Stuart Agnew and he has openly made it clear he intends to exploit the job for his own gain and considers his absolute right to election claiming directly that he has bought the position. Further he is aware that he is taking advantage of dishonesty – a contemptible little bully of a man with no integrity and the bombast of a fool.

No. 4 in the Region is Andrew Smith who is on EVERY count unsuitable – it was his indisputable dishonest abrogation of duty that has led to a guilty verdict against EUkip for having endeavoured to cheat the Electoral Commission, it is his dishonesty that makes EUkip at risk of forfeiture and costs of around £500,000 in a Judicial Review. Further it was Andrew Smith who as Treasurer failed to acquit his professional duties and resign when faced by some 20+ questions relative to his duties which proved beyond doubt he had acted dishonourably and contra the simplest of professional competence as a book keeper let alone the Party Accountant/Treasurer – Andre Smith also failed to protect EUkip from the debts and liabilities of call centres considered by many members to be corrupt.

I would contend if EUkip were to have a candidate elected in June 2009 there is little doubt that had EUkip complied with democratic process, which the Returning Officer attests it was not – Robin Page would be an MEP in June – Just what do YOU believe will be the level of damages in the Courts minded of the damage to Robin Page as a journalist by the loss of this position?Interestingly having spoken with both the Police and the DPA there is every intention that they WILL be vigerously prosecuting enquiry and subsequent due process in the matter of the publishing of material of a confidential nature on YouTube with regard to John West.

The cowardly and dishonourable action of John Wittacker in signing the dishonest letter regarding the foul mouthed slut Annabelle Fuller (Those who feel I may be harsh in branding this sordid slut thus might care to view her pathetic and obscene childish Blog!).

Wittacker may well have lied as Chairman and subsequently resigned having felt he was forced to sign the lies by Farage but I doubt he would lie under oath in Court when the time comes – probably around April on next year.

Then after the guilty verdicts against EUkip and its leadership and NEC there will no doubt be the open and shut damages case that could run well towards 6 figures for reasons which will become apparent in the fullness of time!On the matter of LAW – I am given to believe that the Police have failed to let Tom Wise the EUkip MEP off the hook for fraud, embezzling and money laundering as a liar in abuse of his position of trust as made clear in the media.

I do not know as yet whether Lindsay Jenkins will be charged or whether they will consider her too irrelevant and merely a rather foolish woman impressed by a younger man! Tom Wise was I am reliably informed due to surrender to bail to the Police on Wednesday 29-Oct-08 – However I understand he has announced, confirming what I had heard previously, that The Police have had ‘words’ with him and have shown they have more than a passing interest!

The Police I understand have extended the Bail Period for a further 3 months.

I do NOT personally believe that this action indicates the Police do not intend to charge and prosecute in the long run – I shall therefore NOT publish the documentary evidence I hold at this stage copies of which have been provided to the Police – I believe that there is reason to believe that since the Police have evidence that they consider to make the case open and shut as we understand it – I believe the extension of bail is because they have as a result of this case opened the edge of a MUCH larger case which they do not wish to damage by moving too soon on the larger and more serious issue.

It I was Trevor Colman I would not sleep easy in view of the corruption in which he participated to use his status as a retired Police Officer to orchestrate a cover-up of the criminality of Tom Wise as made public and as a result of Trevor Colman’s shameful dishonesty it led to collusion in the criminality of Tom Wise as known by the leadership and NEC at the time colluding in the cover-up. I appreciate it does seem that Trevor Colman has benefited from his dishonesty, weakness, corruption and prostitution of his Queen’s Commission – both in the pecuniary gain of his partner/mistress Sue Palfrey and also in his seeming reward by being placed in the position of MEP – shame on EUkip that they see this as seemly behaviour for their representatives – though I do appreciate they are well off in having rid themselves of the liar and low life Graham Booth a man of very little merit who went so far as to try to parachute his clearly unsuitable relative into his job – I guess since her only notable claim was her relationship to the odious Booth and claims that her hobby of parachuting was any better or more relevant qualification than knitting or gardening!

The members of EUkip are well shot of the liar and all round nebbish Graham Booth but surely they did not deserve to have him replaced by the corrupt and bent copper Trevor Colman – surely even EUkip have SOMEONE of better calibre in the South West – the list is risible for next June.EUkip seek votes for election to run/represent our Country – what a shameful display of competence they have made of running their own Party – Clearly until EUkip is cleaned up and re-structured no individual of integrity would wittingly vote for them.

I call Farage DIRECTLY to account – on the hustings whilst his staff were cheating and publishing lies to keep they snouts in the trough as with the ex and much failed Press Officer a proven liar and cheat – Do you deny Nigel Farage that time and again you made the proud and dishonest boast that it was essential members voted for you as if you were elected there were various senior Tory MPs who had undertaken to join EUkip under your leadership and there were various individuals willing to put up big money to back the party the moment you became leader.Despite the many witnesses do you deny these lies?

Nigel Farage having lied to get yourself elected perhaps you would care to apologise for your lies and admit you are, as I stated at the time, incompetent to lead the party, without the gravitas and not trusted having gathered around yourself spivs, chavs, liars, cheats, frauds and failures it does not in fact elevate your position it shows the calibre of those who you can afford to buy.

Nigel Farage other than as a rather lightweight affable performing monkey can you identify a single solitary area of competence you bring to leadership other than as a rather glib and shallow barrow boy who trades on myths of success from almost 20 years ago in a City boom you rode briefly as a gambler.

Nigel Farage you have brought little but shame on EUroScepticism almost no publicity of gravitas and virtually no leaflets of calibre, no training, no credible structure and a collection of VERY low grade acolytes as praise singers. You have not eben produced sufficient men of stature to form an NEC risible puppets and parasites who would be unable to hold down a meaningfull position of power and stature.

By the way there has been so many letters leaked to me from the NEC in attempts to clean up EUkip that I do appologise to those who are sending them _ I regret I can not publish them all and also PLEASE accept my judgement as there are some that I believe would not help and may well unfairly damage so those I will withhold at the moment – there are lots more to come.

To come full circle – let us hope Farage and others have the stature and integrity of Len Baynes who was man enough to apologise when he made a mistake rather than continue to emulate the shabby and cowardly behaviour as displayed by Bruce Lawson who acted in a manner so redolent of EUkip’s leadership and MEPs – a coward, a bully, untrustworthy and with no political merit – merely an inflated opinion of himself as with the low lifes and nere do wells that sadly represent EUkip all too often! Follow Lawson’s lead and run away PLEASE give UKIP a chance!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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#95* – Re: #94* – The Little Wriggling Worm?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/10/2008

#95* – Re: #94* – The Little Wriggling Worm?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

LEN BAYNES OPINION & AMICABLE CONVERSATION AS AN EXEMPLAR.

Hi,

Thanks for your comments Len but on reflection do you not feel you have greatly over stepped the mark?

Permit me to point out the apparent errors in your little communication, item by item since you saw fit to mail it publicly as opposed to as a personal communication.

>>Greg although I agree with you that there are many things that need addressing in the leadership of UKIP and I personally would like to see a complete overall of everything and everybody in the upper echelons<<

I believe you will find all but a very few who are deriving personal gain from the present structure or are totally un or ill informed would agree with you – sadly most are just drifting away rather than stand their ground to get their party back and clean it up.

>>including the demise of one Nigel Farage,<<

I do not nor would I wish such a fate on ANYONE, and to imply that I might is more than a little disingenuous.

>>your method of personal insults, inuendoes and downright criminal libel is to me totally unacceptable.<<

Then I suggest if that is all you can understand of my efforts that you use a different but equally visible method of exposing the truth – I wonder if you have castigated those who do nothing to clean up the party out of patriotic interest and opposition to membership of the EU? If not I do question why you feel the right to be the arbiter of taste and style in only my instance!

>> downright criminal libel<<

You have rather glibly made this statement as a statement of fact and not a statement of your opinion! May I take the liberty of pointing out to you that to make such a statement and then to circulate it to others as a fact is a VERY dangerous course of action as you have absolutely no provenance nor substantiation of your statement as NEVER have I ‘criminally libeled’ ANYONE ever as I am very well aware that to do so is as you define it ‘criminal’.Perhaps you are unaware that your unsubstantiated and defamatory comment is itself a gratuitous ‘criminal libel’ against me.

I trust you will have the integrity to not only apologise for your ‘criminal libel’ but also to circulate your apology widely to all who may have received your eMail or subsequently read it. Alternatively please advise me by return who is your solicitor.

>>You are making many more enemies than friends and doing the overall cause no good at all. <<

Thank you for your opinion – perhaps you would be so good as to send me examples of all the others who are getting exposure and publishing the facts that are addressing the endemic corruption in EUkip’s leadership more effectively on a National scale – I am always looking for more effective methods to clean up EUkip and make it an organization people of integrity might be prepared to vote for in a manner to patriotically extract these United Kingdoms from the EU.

>>Constuctive criticism is a good and honerable thing,<<

I am glad you have realized this and it will therefore be acceptable and reasonable for you to apologise for having gratuitously libeled me.

>>but your path is distructive<<

I thank you again for your opinion – however since you clearly haven’t got a clue what my aim is nor what I am doing perhaps you would be advised once you have apologized for your criminal libel to keep your own councel.

>>and the product of a obviously bitter mind,<<

Your opinion and gratuitous insult which you feel justified in circulating is I presume supported by your medical qualification to draw such a conclusion. Perhaps you would be so good as to advise us all wwhere you obtained your medical qualifications and what they are or alternatively withdraw your foolish comment and apologise.

>>and I want no part of it.<<

Then why did you write to me and circulate your foolish comments?

>>Len Baynes Fenland Branch<<

Do correct me but did you not circulate widely and permit of that circulation the fact that you had resigned? Perhaps you would be well advised to ask the editor of Independence News to publish the fact that you were misleading people either then or now. You will of course have to keep reminding the editor who is clearly far from competent for as you will note the recent issue, despite wide publicity to the contrary, failed to publish the winners of the party Lottery.

One wonders if EUkip can manage to get ANYTHING right – especially when one realises that Farage is no longer talking of leaving the EU but in interview after interview how to improve it and how to select better staff for it and the Turncoat Tory Bob Spink was on 5Live this morning and his comments were muddled, confused and unmemorable.

Then we are currently saddled with the fraudster, liar and cheat David the desk Bannerman who has consistently lied to gain preferment – I care not who he IS it is that he lied and is NOT who he claims to be that is so unacceptable and damaging.

I trust I can expect your apology and correction rapidly so we may move on as I have much more to publish and a great deal more to address to clean up EUkip and expose its corruption and I do take grave exception to people like yourself gratuitously claiming that I have lied as you have done since I have NEVER wittingly or intentionally libelled ANYONE and nor would I.

May I add that out of some 2-3,000 recipients of my mailings no one has ever claimed that I have libelled anyone other than yourself and probably the odd liar like Mark Croucher or Douglas Denny who have provided absolutely no factual evidence and have been consistently exposed as corrupt and dishonest.

I would of course immediately apologise had I accidentally and consequentially libelled someone and would widely publish my error as I have made clear over many years. Therefore if you believe I have criminally libelled someone then please be so good as to provide your provenance and I will immediately correct the error if you are correct – your ONLY alternative is a public apology for having ‘criminally libelled’ me.

I do wonder why you saw fit to ingratiate yourself with Peter Cole, Del Young, Jill Seymour, Dr. David Abbott, John West, Derek Norman and others and I can only assume you did so for personal gain!

I look forward to hearing from you and your apology.

I trust having lied about me you will consider hiring the Marlborough Town Hall where we can then share a platform to raise the status of the values of the members of UKIP and opposition to membership of the EU, in preference to EUkip’s current chosen position as stated of desiring greater subsidiarity to the EU, strengthening the EU’s committees and their control over Britain, the stated aim of Farage to act primarily as a party working to block the BNP – rather than you merely sitting on your hands having had a narrow escape from the Courts and damages, at least your apology would have some patriotic benefit – the more people you can get to attend the meeting the larger the collection to strengthen the membership of UKIP in control as opposed to the gravy trainers who currently enjoy the status rigging lists and removing, by kangaroo courts, those who do not acquiesce to their corruption and self enrichment!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

—–Original Message—–
From: greg glanceback [mailto:greg.glanceback@btconnect.com]
Sent: 24 October 2008 13:57
To: greg@glanceback.demon.co.uk
Subject: FW: #942 – The Little Wriggling Worm?Importance: High

—–Original Message—–

From: Len Baynes [mailto:lenbay@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 24 October 2008 09:45
To: greg.glanceback@btconnect.com
Cc: Peter Cole; del1young@yahoo.co.uk; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; shawforddavid@hotmail.com; johnwest81@hotmail.com; Derek Norman
Subject: Fw: #942 – The Little Wriggling Worm?Importance: High

—– Original Message —–
From: jan clark
To: ‘Len Baynes’
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: FW: #942 – The Little Wriggling Worm?

From: Glanceback [mailto:greg.glanceback@btconnect.com] Sent: 23 October 2008 04:16
To: ‘Bruce Lawson’
Subject: #942 – The Little Wriggling Worm?
Cc: Peter Cole; del1young@yahoo.co.uk; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; shawforddavid@hotmail.com; johnwest81@hotmail.com; Derek NormanSubject:
Fw: #942 – The Little Wriggling Worm?
Importance: High

Greg although I agree with you that there are many things that need addressing in the leadership of UKIP and I personally would like to see a complete overall of everything and everybody in the upper echelons including the demise of one Nigel Farage, your method of personal insults, inuendoes and downright criminal libel is to me totally unacceptable. You are making many more enemies than friends and doing the overall cause no good at all. Constuctive criticism is a good and honerable thing, but your path is distructive and the product of a obviously bitter mind, and I want no part of it.

Len Baynes
Fenland Branch

—– Original Message —–
From: jan clark
To: ‘Len Baynes’
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: FW: #942 – The Little Wriggling Worm?

From: Glanceback [mailto:greg.glanceback@btconnect.com]
Sent: 23 October 2008 04:16

To: ‘Bruce Lawson’

Subject: #942 – The Little Wriggling Worm?

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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#94* – The Little Wriggling Worm?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/10/2008

#94* – The Little Wriggling Worm?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

What a pratt Bruce Lawson is & not even man enough to apologise

Attn: LawsonThe sad little man sent me this reply:

>> GL-W So you have not got the guts to ring me.. neither has Nigel Farage … please delete me from your rant list and stop wasting my time..
BruceLawson<<

What a pratt Bruce Lawson is & not even man enough to apologise for his ill informed, ill conceived blustering and bullying threats.

I stated that he had absolutely nothing to say from which I could learn and that I would not phone him until he was man enough to admit he had made a fool of himself, yet again, and publish an apology!
Nor shall I for which he should be thankful as he obviously isn’t very bright and he might also care to check the time – he would be the first to bleat at being called at 4.00am.
Bruce Lawson you have made a fool of yourself as all who know me will confirm – I have no fear of little men who make fools of themselves like yourself and I have nothing to fear of men of stature and morality, I fear no man – I can not speak for Farage as to why he won’t phone you but probably he is doing no more than live down to my expectations of him as a leader.
Bruce Lawson you have sorely disappointed on every count – you were going to do great things until your courage trickled down your leg – stop showing your ineptitude, you incompetence, inadequacy of judgement and silly views of British Justice, law and leadership.
You would pretend to forming your little company with poor old discredited Geoffrey, who had his moment of trust when appointed Returning Officer and showed he was unfit, too weak and unwilling to acquit his duty – it was even rumoured that he was bought off with dreams of preferment.
Whichever way Geoffrey Kingscott failed totally to acquit his duty and thus presided over a totally corrupt election that became the coronation founded on lies, which has destroyed UKIP and denied us a party that anyone of integrity could vote for – now a claque of spivs, charlatans, fraudsters and those who have openly and irrefutably colluded in fraud, corruption, dishonesty and slander.
Including David the Desk who lied to gain his position, Farage who rode on the lies of others including his staff to titular leadership, Trevor Colman who betrayed us all and befouled his Queen’s Commission by orchestrating a corrupt cover up of the criminality, fraud, embezzling, money laundering by Tom Wise in collusion with Lindsay Jenkins as exposed in the media and for which he has been arrested and is on bail – Colman would seem to have kept his mistress in work and has now obtained preferment to befoul our Country’s stature as a dishonest and venal rogue in office – EUkip’s stature being beneath contempt having been dragged in the gutter so often by its leadership that it is likely to lose all 12 seats it once gained.
Bruce Lawson face fact you are not nor have you ever been nor are you likely to be a leader of any description – go back to your counting house and count peoples money for them as you have shown you have neither the talent, the skill nor the ability for leadership.
By all means set up a consortium of the failed and endlessly have little meetings at which to discuss who will bring the cake for the next meeting and what to fail to achieve next.
First it was Grass Clippings, then Ashes, then Fringe what will it be in November, ‘Compost’ – each meeting yet more aimless and more insignificant than the previous.
Read my eMails with care and try to learn something of politics and consequence and realise that YOU had the opportunity to clean up EUkip and you totally failed.
Lawson – be man enough to publish an apology or just drift off aware of the damage you did by your personal failure.Perhaps you would care to make amends and rent The Victoria Rooms in Bristol or The Town Hall in Stroud or Marlborough and ensure a substantial audience and I will be only too happy to debate the issues with you on a public platform and give the reasons why Britain must leave the EU and explain why neither EUkip nor the BNP will EVER achieve this patriotic aim. You bluster and talk of cowardice – let us see how much of a man you are, rise to the Challenge and I WILL be there and will face questions from ALL COMERS.
Rise above your prissy little failures and act with Patriotism can you rise to the Challenge I KNOW I WILL – I will speak out on behalf of my Country in the face of any attack anywhere.
I seek NOT to change the EU as espoused by Farage and seemingly EUkip & all the MEPs of his group the pro EU Ind.Dem.Group but to leave it – they are NOT a body where appointments of parasites concerns me I do NOT recognise its authority over me or my Country as it was dishonestly implemented and corruptly and duplicitously maintained.
Unlike Farage’s claque I seek NO APPEASMENT & NO RAPROCHMENT from within.
I value my Country – do you Lawson? Do YOU value it sufficiently to rise to my Challenge?I suggest before you make more of a fool of yourself watch:
& then either put up or shut up.G.L-W.

—–Original Message—–From: greg glanceback [mailto:greg.glanceback@btconnect.com] Sent: 23 October 2008 02:42To: greg@glanceback.demon.co.ukSubject: FW: #934 – Consider Just HOW do the Caterpillars Help?

—–Original Message—–

From: Bruce Lawson [mailto:bruce.lawson@btinternet.com] Bruce Lawson [Bruce.Lawson@btinternet.com]
Sent: 22 October 2008 09:04
Subject: Re: #934 – Consider Just HOW do the Caterpillars Help?

GL-W
So you have not got the guts to ring me.. neither has Nigel Farage …
please delete me from your rant list and stop wasting my time..
BruceLawson

—– Original Message —–
From: Glanceback
To: greg.glanceback@btconnect.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:05 AM
Subject: #934 – Consider Just HOW do the Caterpillars Help?

#93* – Consider Just HOW do the Caterpillars Help?

***CUT – not relevant to the maunderings of Lawson***
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A bit off frippery that clearly shows EUkip has lost sight of what matters – I received the following eMail and fortunately, bored I was about to dump some 1,400 spam eMails and noted this on my other computer:

—–Original Message—–
From: Bruce Lawson [mailto:bruce.lawson@btinternet.com]
Sent: 21 October 2008 16:06
To: Greg Lance Watkins
Subject: UKIP – Your email 21st October

Dear Greg

Please retract your remark about me on your posts within four days, i.e. ‘Agnew, Lawson, etc. low lifes, trash, etc.’ and phone me personally (01686-668004) in addition. My inclusion in your list is totally unjustified, and I will sue you immediately for defamation if you do not act.

Regards.

Bruce Lawson

To be fair and giving this little chappie a right to reply I presume that he means the following portion of my eMail #92* of the 21st. which stated:
>>Virtually without exception the EUkip MEPs are some of the most revolting, ill educated, dishonest chavs it has been my misfortune to meet I do so agree with Robin’s assessments above. Sadly the pond life that has gathered like parasites and leaches around them are the only thing that makes them look good – Croucher, Denny, Fuller, Moran, Carver, Zucherman, McGough, Smith, Bannerman, Duffy, Andreasen, Wood, Lott, Williams, Mickelthwaite, Kingscott, Agnew, Lawson etc. low lifes, trash, spivs, climbers and beneath contempt in their dishonesty – as proven by the mess the party is in!
Many will recall the lies of Farage during the hustings and the lies of his supporters and staff to ensure they kept their snouts in the troughs.

<

May I suggest if he is so fragile that he is, as he has substantively proven, completely out of his depth in such an arena as EUkip, may I advise he withdraws from any public role – no I shall NOT bother phoning as I do not believe that Lawson has anything from which I could learn – however I will reconsider that judgement when he issues a public apology for having YET AGAIN shown what a pratt he is by YET AGAIN threatening me without valid grounds.
Lawson I added your name to the list advisedly – it is clear to all but the dumbest that my comments were not each and every one applicable to each person – do by all means advise which YOU believe fit your behaviour and incompetence – I am happy to publish your own opinion of your behaviour in leaving EUkip mid term as The Treasurer without completing the years accounts, your behaviour in failing to ensure the exposure of areas considered corrupt in the accounts by many members or draw up accounts that were adequately transparent as to bear investigation by members, or in what way it was responsible to present your first business meeting without comment on the preceding accounts abandoned by Andrew Smith in a totally unprofessional and disgraceful manner.
Perhaps after leaving, that you published your internal confidential maunderings between you and your employers in a particularly dishonerable manner on your so called UKIP Branch web site, by all means explain in what manner I should portray such a betrayal.
Then of course you might provide a more apposite soubriquette to your own behaviour when you had such an opportunity to act with integrity and clean up EUkip’s accounts and accounting procedure to TRY to make EUkip electable not just an apparent scam for self enrichment at the expense of the tax payers and members.
By all means do be more specific in language of contempt to more relevantly suit your abrogation of duty and care.
You may also wish to explain whilst you are apologising for your behaviour for having raised such hopes that you would provide the details at meetings in Bournemouth sufficient to satiate the needs of the audience for exposure when in fact they sat in serried rows listening to your indecisive unincisive mumblings of ‘um’ & ‘er’.Lawson – your fatuous outburst this time is almost as risible as the last time you threatened me without sound grounds.
WHEN the cap fits may I suggest you quietly wear it, maybe with a grimace, hoping not to be noticed whilst seeking ways to improve your position and your behaviour based on the lessons learned.
You are welcome to print this out and frame it as a reminder of how you have failed both in terms of being an adequate complainant of any credibility and also as a reminder that you will need far more lessons to be able to pass yourself off as an individual of stature, credibility, plausibility or at least as a Gentleman of integrity which could of course be achieved in some part by your apology both for this most recent incident of threat by you and also for your previous burst of foolish braggadocio for which to date you have proved not to be man enough nor adequately a gentleman to apologise.
Have you thought of book keeping as an occupation as you may find it more within your competence than dealing with people where clearly you lack the skills requisite.
Be advised that should you ONCE again threaten me groundlessly without first apologising that constitutes, under law, harassment and is as such a criminal offence. May I suggest you send a copy of your apology to a competent lawyer so that he will be prepared to act for you should you require competent defence in the future.
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PLEASE HELP US TO CLEAN UP EUkip and restore it to the people as UKIP in a fit and proper condition that men and women of integrity could vote for it and if that can not be done PLEASE HELP US ensure not one single MEP is elected from amongst the scum that are listed. MOVING ON – to Grown Up Issues 😉
PRESS RELEASE: IMMEDIATE Tom Conti and Lord Lucas launch the Motorists Legal Challenge Fund … Britain’s motorists encouraged to join the fight. … the Court case that could lead to £millions of parking tickets being cancelled. Movie star Tom Conti, and Lord Lucas of Dingwall and Crudwell are leading the charge to raise a fighting fund initially for a court challenge to parking tickets and to then include legal challenges on other matters affecting Britain’s motorists.

They are patrons of the newly formed Motorists Legal Challenge Fund which has been set up to fight the corner of Britain’s beleaguered motorists and will be formally launched today.

Tom (66) has become involved because he’s a founder of the Motorists Action Group in London, where he is a long-term resident. He has put some of his own cash into the fund, which is backing the challenge which could impact on fines issued by councils across the UK.
The Scottish-born actor, who starred in the film Shirley Valentine and TV series Donovan, became a campaigner after he suffered “an unpleasant incident with some bailiffs” over a ticket and because he thinks the treatment of motorists is extremely unjust.
He said, “I just hate unfairness in government and there’s a vast amount being perpetrated against anybody with a vehicle — and that’s an awful lot of people. “The local authorities are supposed to be there to help the people rather than harass them, but at the moment people are being harassed.”
He doesn’t consider himself a political person but admits his high profile can help the cause.“
Politics and the whole right-wing, left-wing thing is nonsense. There’s only common sense really and an understanding of what human beings are — and they do not want to be dictated to,” he said.
The first case is being spearheaded by Sunderland campaigner Neil Herron, who runs the website http://www.parkingappeals.co.uk/ .

Neil (45) has remortgaged his property to raise £60,000 for the fight and start the action says Tom Conti’s and Lord Lucas’ backing is vital.

He said, “I think Britain’s motorists have reached tipping point and are fed up being treated as a cash cow. The case needed to be lodged within three months and the only way to get the action launched was to effectively put my home on the line.

Tom Conti and Lord Lucas have helped launch the Fund which will ensure that we can take this case forward and act on behalf of Britain’s motorists. It is essential that such matters are brought before the courts because the individual motorist faces such an inequality of arms when trying to seek justice.”

Britain’s motorists are urged to support the Motorists Legal Challenge to ensure an equality of arms for this and future battles. Herron is no stranger to campaigning and his most recent David against Goliath success has been with the Metric Martyrs Campaign which has forced a very public Government u-turn on enforced metrication and the concession that no-one else will be prosecuted for using imperial measures.

Parking enforcement has been used by many councils as a revenue raising stealth tax. The

Lord Lucas who also chairs the Enforcement Law Reform Group, and the London Motorists Action Group recently told the BBC Radio 4’s PM programme that the enforcement of incorrectly signed parking areas “…is something that seems to me to be close to theft, and it probably would be adjudged as theft if one could ever get it to court.”

“So it is extremely difficult to get local authorities to behave properly on this. There doesn’t seem to be an ombudsman who will take this seriously and central government really just treats this as part of the tax-raising system.”
“It just generally makes people’s lives that bit more miserable”

The CaseThe case of Herron v The Parking Adjudicator challenges the independence of the Traffic Penalty Tribunal (formerly the National Parking Adjudication Service).

It is maintained that because the service is administered and funded by the councils with the adjudicators appointed by a committee of the councils then it cannot be perceived to be independent.
This could impact on every ticket issued in England and Wales.
The second pillar of the case is that many parking tickets are invalid because of flaws in the regulations that cover Controlled Parking Zones. CPZs were designed to cut down on parking sign clutter by having a notice at an entry point that applies restrictions to several streets but because councils have deviated from the strict definition where only single yellow, double yellow or parking spaces are allowed in CPZs then parking tickets could be rendered invalid.
Support

Individuals, businesses and motoring groups have welcomed the action and the Motorists Legal Challenge Fund.

The Chairman of the Association of British Drivers, Brian Gregory said:

“As with speed cameras there is no one regulating the regulators in order to keep them honest.
Some local councils have proved the old adage that absolute power corrupts absolutely, especially where there is the financial incentive of retaining the proceeds of decriminalised parking enforcement.”
“If it is going to take Consumer Power to make the authorities toe the line, so be it. We are right behind Neil and his case and we shall be making a donation to the fund.”
Edmund King, President of the Automobile Association says:
“The AA says motorists rightly expect the highest standard of accountability and compliance with the law and guidance regarding de-criminalised parking enforcement. It is unacceptable that some councils, which are granted parking enforcement powers by the Department for Transport, break the rules themselves.”
“If they persist in breaking laws and rules after being advised of their errors they deserve to be challenged. However, the AA says things must be kept in proportion – we do need fair parking enforcement but some local authorities taint the good authorities that recognise and honour their responsibilities to the parking public.”
Grant Davis of the London Cab Drivers Club says (watch his video clip here)
“We have just donated £500 … and we should all stand up to be counted and get behind the Motorists Legal Challenge. Where is the bulldog spirit? Come on, let’s wake up and let’s stop the abuse of motorists by local authorities issuing parking tickets to raise money. Get behind the campaign.”
Register for updates by e-mailing info@motoristslegalchallenge.co.uk
ENDS
Anyone wishing to find out more can visit http://www.motoristslegalchallenge.co.uk/
SUPPORT
Donations can be made to:
MOTORISTS LEGAL CHALLENGE FUND
PO BOX 62228
LONDON
N8 1AG
Contact:
Simon Aldridge Mob. 07973781655
Jim Douglas Mob.07785918411
Neil Herron Mob. 07776 202045
NOTES FOR EDITORS
PHOTO / INTERVIEW OPPORTUNITY / NOTES FOR EDITORS: Contact Simon, Jim or Neil
PHOTO / INTERVIEW … HANDING OVER OF A ‘LARGE CHEQUE’ TO LORD LUCAS BY LONDON CABBIES 4.45 PM WEDNESDAY 22ND OCTOBER 2008 AT: Fielden House, 13 Little College Street, off Abbey Gardens near the car park, SW1P

Regards,

Greg L-W.

01291 – 62 65 62

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#93* – Consider Just HOW do the Caterpillars Help?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/10/2008

#93* – Consider Just HOW do the Caterpillars Help?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

Sadly the pond life that has gathered like parasites and leaches around EUkip MEPs are the only thing that makes them look good

Hi,

I would ask you to consider and ask yourself once you have read this eMail just what do YOU think is being achieved and to what end by the leadership and NEC of EUkip – in what way are they contributing to our Country as they continue their cult of self infatuated egotistical idolatery – as they set up a venal cult of self importance, seeking through witch hunt and kangaroo courts to debase the Party that carries them.

Where and what are the moralities displayed by EUkip’s leadership and NEC just what are their values and their vision?

I am bemused as to what might be the net sum gain for my Country of the dishonesty, corruption and adulatory infatuation of an ever shrinking few as offered by EUkip as it bullies and bombasts cheating to gain prefferential positions for a sycophantic few at the expense of credibility and electability – just what gain is there in putting in as a puppet a shaven headed Liverpool scally with absolutely no relevant experience, in a knee jerk reaction to protect positions at the troughs – threatened by the lies and criminality of the foul mouthed slut and the infatuation of the leader such that he lied to support her on the national media and forced his party chairman out of office by insisting he put his signature to a pack of lies!

Clearly and unarguably Farage should not be above the law and the party constitution and there is absolutely no argument to defend him from the charge of bringing the party into disrepute – the facts speak for themselves and are undeniable as is the open and shut case that the appointed deputy leader is unfit for office of any public nature being a proven fraud, liar and cheat – nop disciplinary hearing is required as the evidence is absolute, indisputable and brings the party into disrepute – IF David the desk

Bannerman lacks the integrity and is so besotted by the smell of a place at the troughs then act honourably for him and chuck him out in shame.

It is increasingly obvious that EUkip is finished though despite the incredible number of enemies EUkip has gathered and the number who will actively campaign AGAINST EUkip in general and Farage, Andreassen, Bannerman and their ilk in particular – there is still a danger that Farage may be elected by the ignorant and having read his every speech and listened to every interview available there is absolutely no doubt that Farage will jump ship immediately after the election – For heaven’s sake wake up – Farage no longer represents UKIP members he represents ONLY himself.

I have all the recorded speeches of Enoch Powell and listen to them not infrequently; his use of our language is like poetry but less boring.

It is sad that he has been so disingenuously portrayed as in some way racists – it is as foolish to label him as racist as it is to present Winston Churchill’s essays on Islam, out of the context of history and his book, The River Wars as in some way Islamophobic or anti Islamic in a modern context – to do so in either instance is downright dishonest and if you have the intellectual ability to so do and the moral turpitude to thus exploit the ignorance and cupidity of others less intellectually fortunate you clearly debase your own argument and demean your own integrity.

Winston’s son made much of the values of Britain and with the father he had ‘stood upon the shoulders of giants’ to quote Isaac Newton. One must wonder what Addnnan Khasshoggi thought of young Winston adulterously having sex with his wife over a prolonged period – was SHE not a Muslim as was Addnnan also?

Then to drift into talk of ‘treason’ is surely a nonsense when no such crime exists on the statute book and the law setting it aside was prorogued for a set period for the trial of William Joyce – a most un British act as William Joyce did NOT commit treason though he was hanged for the crime. William Joyce could NOT commit treason against Britain or the crown as he was an Irish citizen!

The law of treason even in its hay day was a most difficult crime to prosecute for difficulty of definition as it had to encompass intent of outcome, which seems to be near unprovable as it is not possible to define intent as it is no more than a private thought process. This I understand was one of the main planks in the argument that led to Treason being struck from the statute book by due democratic process at Westminster.

Hence the idiocy, all be it based on righteous indignation (a defence under law – last used I believe by Jack Straw & Tariq Alli when facing prosecution for crimes of wilful destruction and ‘riot’, I understand they were aided in their crime by Patricia Hewitt and shielded by the arch Communist Barbara Castle!)

Sadly it is on these points that claims of treason fall – indignant at the thought that the very democracy we seek to defend has removed a plank of the defence is not a relevance when the gullible are duped into making asses of themselves by laying charges of treason at police stations against individuals whether extant or dead.

I freely admit I am neither a racist nor a nationalist and people’s superstitions are of no consequence to me and nor should they wish to impose them upon me. I wish to see Britain a haven that is willing to absorb those who value its values a model for the better world our peoples have given sequential sacrifice for.

We must as patriots never turn away those in need as do remind yourselves of the blacks, browns, yellows and whites of this planet who strove to support and defend these United Kingdoms because of our values – Racism & Nationalism of an exclusive nature are an excrescence and a shame upon the sacrifice of our ancestors.

We must as patriots welcome and shelter those who have in the past and may in the future give their lives for our values, Sikhs, Muslims, Buddhists, Jain, Jew, various sects of Christian and those who have no belief in theisms.

We might not be here as Britons whatever our colour and creed and surely we measure people by their thoughts and values, loyalties and compassions not their ethnicity as it is a wise man who knows his Father! Was it not Cecil Spring-Rice who as British Ambasasador to Washington convinced Woodrow Wilson to uphold those very values in WWI and subsequently wrote:

I vow to thee, my country, all earthly things above,

Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love;

The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test,

That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best;

The love that never falters, the love that pays the price,

The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice.

I heard my country calling, away across the sea,

Across the waste of waters she calls and calls to me.

Her sword is girded at her side, her helmet on her head,

And round her feet are lying the dying and the dead.

I hear the noise of battle, the thunder of her guns,

I haste to thee my mother, a son among thy sons.

And there’s another country, I’ve heard of long ago,

Most dear to them that love her, most great to them that know;

We may not count her armies, we may not see her King;

Her fortress is a faithful heart, her pride is suffering;

And soul by soul and silently her shining bounds increase,

And her ways are ways of gentleness, and all her paths are peace.

If we lose sight of what we are striving to defend and slip into the bitter, bullying racism of the BNP, unwilling to renounce the racism and murders on which it is founded, the American White Supremacy that supported the BNP and the National Front before it, the religious hatred that the BNP supports and encourages exploiting ignorance and fear for political gain then I would contend we have lost that which was worth fighting for.

I admonish you to read again Cecil Spring-Rice’s words and if possible listen to Katherine Jenkins’ rendition at:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nw62YHlJos&feature=related

We must remember why we are in this battle of survival – it is not for our egos nor for our gain but for the future wellbeing of our peoples and our planet. We are here to withdraw our Country from the evils of The EUropean Union not to build evils in our own land!

an eMail from the NEC leak may interest you as it so clearly makes my point albeit in brevity from a long standing UKIP member and chairman of branches:

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I sincerly hope you are all hanging your heads in shame this evening. I have just watched a program on ITV. centred around a mock referendum in Luton, subjects

(1) Lisbon Treaty , Yes or No,

(2) EU, in or out .

and I can only ask where were we?

This was a heaven sent opportunity for us this actually happened on the 9th Oct again where were we? where was the bus? The bus I know is lanquishing somewhere in Luton with no Tax or insurance – Why? Are you all so obsessed with your own little island of power to forget what we are about?

We are supposed to be the premier organisation against the EU we were not even mentioned, why did we not have a vast presence in Luton on that day, what is the press office doing that we were not told about this?

Ladies and gentlemen: I have learnt today of yet another branch chairman resigning, the party, peoples, is going belly up and you are doing nothing about it shame on you.

For god sake listen to the complaints answer the letters and get out of your ivory towers and come to branch meetings and find out, I have spent 10 years of my life for this party, and yes I also resigned because I was so disillusioned but was talked out of it by my branch, so I am now fighting not only the EU. but something that has gone radically wrong with this party, and I’m afraid its from the top, I’ve heard and seen Mr. Farage’s hitlist and very surprised I’m not on it, not that that is any worry, but you, peoples, have some explaining to do, why are you all ignoring the trouble we are in? or should I say the majority of you are, those that are listening are on that list. You have had what was called the Newmarket declaration, what have you done about it? I’ll tell you, sweet F–ALL, in the hope it will go away as is the case with all the other letters and complaints you receive, I personally wrote to Mr. Farage some few weeks ago and have not yet had the courtesy of a reply, surprised !! not really, not expected.!!

Ladies and gentlemen if you do not take heed you will soon find all you have is your Ivory towers then you can all take it in turns blameing each other for what has happened.

With no apologies,
Len Baynes
Treasurer Fenland Branch

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A bit off frippery that clearly shows EUkip has lost sight of what matters – I received the following eMail and fortunately, bored I was about to dump some 1,400 spam eMails and noted this on my other computer:
—–Original Message—–
From: Bruce Lawson [mailto:bruce.lawson@btinternet.com]
Sent: 21 October 2008 16:06
To: Greg Lance Watkins
Subject: UKIP – Your email 21st October

Dear Greg

Please retract your remark about me on your posts within four days, i.e. ‘Agnew, Lawson, etc. low lifes, trash, etc.’ and phone me personally (01686-668004) in addition. My inclusion in your list is totally unjustified, and I will sue you immediately for defamation if you do not act.

Regards.

Bruce Lawson

To be fair and giving this little chappie a right to reply I presume that he means the following portion of my eMail:

#92* of the 21st. which stated:

Virtually without exception the EUkip MEPs are some of the most revolting, ill educated, dishonest chavs it has been my misfortune to meet I do so agree with Robin’s assessments above.

Sadly the pond life that has gathered like parasites and leaches around them are the only thing that makes them look good – Croucher, Denny, Fuller, Moran, Carver, Zucherman, McGough, Smith, Bannerman, Duffy, Andreasen, Wood, Lott, Williams, Mickelthwaite, Kingscott, Agnew, Lawson etc. low lifes, trash, spivs, climbers and beneath contempt in their dishonesty – as proven by the mess the party is in!
Many will recall the lies of Farage during the hustings and the lies of his supporters and staff to ensure they kept their snouts in the troughs.<<

In the spirit in which my eMail was written I obviously stand by my statement of my opinionPerhaps Bruce Lawson will accept the style of my eMail though he may not welcome my exposures.

May I suggest if he is so fragile that he is, as he has substantively proven, completely out of his depth in such an arena as EUkip, may I advise he withdraws from any public role – no I shall NOT bother phoning as I do not believe that Lawson has anything from which I could learn – however I will reconsider that judgement when he issues a public apology for having YET AGAIN shown what a pratt he is by YET AGAIN threatening me without valid grounds.

Lawson I added your name to the list advisedly – it is clear to all but the dumbest that my comments were not each and every one applicable to each person – do by all means advise which YOU believe fit your behaviour and incompetence – I am happy to publish your own opinion of your behaviour in leaving EUkip mid term as The Treasurer without completing the years accounts, your behaviour in failing to ensure the exposure of areas considered corrupt in the accounts by many members or draw up accounts that were adequately transparent as to bear investigation by members, or in what way it was responsible to present your first business meeting without comment on the preceding accounts abandoned by Andrew Smith in a totally unprofessional and disgraceful manner.

Perhaps after leaving, that you published your internal confidential maunderings between you and your employers in a particularly dishonerable manner on your so called UKIP Branch web site, by all means explain in what manner I should portray such a betrayal.

Then of course you might provide a more apposite soubriquette to your own behaviour when you had such an opportunity to act with integrity and clean up EUkip’s accounts and accounting procedure to TRY to make EUkip electable not just an apparent scam for self enrichment at the expense of the tax payers and members.

By all means do be more specific in language of contempt to more relevantly suit your abrogation of duty and care.You may also wish to explain whilst you are apologising for your behaviour for having raised such hopes that you would provide the details at meetings in Bournemouth sufficient to satiate the needs of the audience for exposure when in fact they sat in serried rows listening to your indecisive unincisive mumblings of ‘um’ & ‘er’.

Lawson – your fatuous outburst this time is almost as risible as the last time you threatened me without sound grounds.

WHEN the cap fits may I suggest you quietly wear it, maybe with a grimace, hoping not to be noticed whilst seeking ways to improve your position and your behaviour based on the lessons learned.

You are welcome to print this out and frame it as a reminder of how you have failed both in terms of being an adequate complainant of any credibility and also as a reminder that you will need far more lessons to be able to pass yourself off as an individual of stature, credibility, plausibility or at least as a Gentleman of integrity which could of course be achieved in some part by your apology both for this most recent incident of threat by you and also for your previous burst of foolish braggadocio for which to date you have proved not to be man enough nor adequately a gentleman to apologise.

Have you thought of book keeping as an occupation as you may find it more within your competence than dealing with people where clearly you lack the skills requisite.

Be advised that should you ONCE again threaten me groundlessly without first apologising that constitutes, under law, harassment and is as such a criminal offence. May I suggest you send a copy of your apology to a competent lawyer so that he will be prepared to act for you should you require competent defence in the future.

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PLEASE HELP US TO CLEAN UP EUkip and restore it to the people as UKIP
in a fit and proper condition that men and women of integrity
could vote for it and if that can not be done
PLEASE HELP US ensure not one single MEP
is elected from amongst the scum that are listed.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

MAY I SUGGEST – since there is no political party of repute advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#92* – Robin PAGE EXPOSES EUkip’s CORRUPTION!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 21/10/2008

#92* – Robin PAGE EXPOSES EUkip’s CORRUPTION!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

THE ENDEMIC CORRUPTION IN EUkip & THE WAY AHEAD!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership & NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
Hi,
The next 7 paragraphs are a repeat just in case you missed them previously as since they include a correction I would like to be sure YOU saw it and also that you might pass the eMail on to the people in your address book interested in EUkip – both of them ;-(
The failure of EUkip to act with ANY competence, intelligence or seeming ability shows beyond any shadow of doubt that in their hubris and incompetence they lack any ability at damage limitation such as to show that under their present leadership and NEC they have no right to ask ANYONE to put their trust in them or to vote for them – with the best will in the world even their most naïve supporter could not responsibly vote for them.
As always I am willing to stand by my word and am prepared to be cross examined on the facts I have put before you.
On that note I received an eMail, from a senior Branch Official of long standing, whilst Lee and I were away with friends and as I had not responded immediately (as I try to) I managed to track the individual down and obtain his phone number and phoned, firstly to apologise for my tardy response and also explain how my error had come about and undertake to correct the error, explaining how it had come about. Thank you again for contacting me and also for your fulsome praise of my news letters. I will happily publish your name with my thanks for your information if you wish but obviously not without your permission. (Do let me know)
Last week before leaving I published the fact that WAYNE HARLING had decamped from EUkip to The Conservative Party – I understand this was NOT TRUE and I unreservedly apologise for any inconvenience or embarrassment this may have cause Wayne Harling or anyone else including those who wrote to me or phoned to say it was no loss, especially after his behaviour apropos the hijack and Kangaroo Court relative to Del Young by the NEC and the support of the undeniably corrupt and dishonest Lisa Duffy who misled the members and thus dishonestly and against the spirit of the constitution of EUkip obtained a seat on the NEC of EUkip.
My error came about not out of malice but having made REASONABLE assumption! The fact that he had defected to The Tories was stated as a fact on what was UKIPForum and it WAS commented upon and after a notable time no comment correcting or amending the statement had been made and in consideration of the fact that there are those like Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Bob Feel Martinis, Mark Croucher and others who are all too willing to lie, cheat and dissemble in support of EUkip and the purely gullible like Kernow, JoshuaOnyons, and the like who seem to adopt a crano rectally retentive position regarding EUkip’s corrupt and dishonest leadership and NEC and minded that EUkip’s Press Officer Clive Page and also their new little chappie (when in the country) all seem all too rapid in their protection and defence of the indefensible and as several of the posters are from, EUkip Yooof there was no correction of the story I presumed, falsely, that it was true.
I am pleased to say that I believe this is the ONLY factual error that has been pointed out to me by someone responsible in EUkip rather than the lies and serial dishonesty of the likes of Croucher and Denny as proven, as I have ALWAYS stated I aim to be absolutely accurate and am ALWAYS happy to correct any factual error I may EVER have published.
Unlike people like Anthony Butcher I will always stand by my word and also grant an unequivocal right of reply, not censoring honest comment and promoting dishonest personal attacks as Butcher has frequently encouraged on his Forum, in a dishonest and corrupt manner, showing beyond doubt that he is not to be trusted and is without integrity or fundamental decency.
I was going to publish a few more of the letters I have from the NEC but they can wait till later in the week.
I have been a tad busy recently and I would ask you all to spare a thought for various people who I seek to help through http://www.kidneycancerresource.com/ not least of whom are Gemma who is having a radical nephrectomy due to Renal Cell Carcinoma in a few hours time, Chris who is in hospital facing a prolonged, demeaning and agonising death in The Royal Gwent as our PCT has refused to provide the drugs he needs to keep him alive as with Val, Janey, Rob, Sandy, Jean and about another 40 I can NAME many of whom chat to me through the night as they face those lonely hours facing imminent death and often leaving young families – if I come across as unwilling to suffer fools, impatient with idiots and ruthless with the corrupt I do not for a moment ask you to forgive me but perhaps you might understand why I WILL NOT TOLLERATE dishonesty as it is just that dishonesty which is deliberately killing people who have become friends many who face death in their 30s & 40s whilst the pond life in EUkip rip off the self same system.
Perhaps someone can identify the duly enacted Act of Parliament passed at Westminster after debate and democratic process, which although it denies women the fundamental human right of control over their own bodies and a right to abortion, denies those in terminal agony or demeaning horror the right to the dignity of death when they chose have the sordid arrogance to practice selective EUthenasia based on undefined expediency against the will or wishes of the patient!! I understood that to me more normally called murder and when exercised in yours and my name by OUR Government it is no better than the murders carried out by Britain’s poorly trained, badly led, incompetent and irresponsible armed Police and perhaps we could be advised when the Government, which can find £Billions for their pensions, £Billions to fund cover-ups of their own banking incompetence but will not fund drugs available in much of the rest of the world and other 3rd. world states WHEN are The Harold Shipman Wards being opened for those not ‘Cost Effective’ to be exterminated on the NHS!
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I gather EUkip has started openly conceding that it acted dishonestly and is in breech of its contract with members who stood for selection/election as prospective MEP candidates.

It would seem that having refunded the £250.00 to candidates that they are admitting that the process was, as we all know, corrupt.
That their own chosen and appointed Returning Officer openly and in the public domain highlighted many of the corruptions and cheating even the lies of Mick McGough the fraudulent lies of David the desk Bannerman (frankly no one gives a stuff who he is it is just that he has proved himself to be a fraud, a liar and a cheat and NOT who he claimed to be – this shows he is not to be trusted on even simple matters), then there was the corrupt behaviour of Gollom aided by Titford – Gollom has proved himself to be a duplicitous ill mannered and dishonest little parasite who in all his years has ensured his income above all else by working for two masters and often none as he played one off against the other.
Many will remember the lack of publicity and incompetence relevant to the web site he was happy to be salaried to not achieve.
Not a man who would seem to have friends and clearly not one to trust if you stand between him and his income stream!
You will be interested to note that realising that the selection process was corrupt and fundamentally flawed on the very many counts listed by the Returning Officer, Lynnda Robson, myself and many others in the public domain – EUkip has refunded Robin Page’s money that they obtained from him dishonestly as the first step in compensating him.
I also note that the letter made public from Lynnda Robson has been accepted as fact and she has not only received back the £250.00 but also a substantial proportion of her direct costs – this clearly shows that EUkip accept her position to be accurate and correct and thus one presumes they will be putting the situation right by removal of The Desk from the Eastern Region and preferably the Party since who needs the publicity of a cheat, a liar and a fraud during an election.
Mick Muckgough must surely be removed for his dishonesty, Andrew Smith is clearly unfit having so incompetently and dishonestly betrayed the party and lied to The Electoral Commission leading to huge costs, a guilty verdict in the Courts and £18,000 forfeiture and now the potential for further costs and forfeit of around £1/2Million – this is a man of such staggering lack of professionalism or competence, integrity or duty that one is surprised he is not in Gordon Brown’s Treasury team!
A man who understands large sums and how to squander them when they belong to others!
One must assume that in admitting their corruption by having refunded the fees EUkip’s leadership will be refunding the money to all – since all were cheated and one must assume those they do not refund were party to the lies and corruption – it will be interesting to note who were their cronies in the scam!
Presumably the joke candidate Martha Andersen will be sent packing to befoul some other poor party – has she tried the BNP yet for it would seem she has tried most others and I presume the Danish people do not want her back as a Dane nor it seems do the Spanish want her as a candidate – for sure there is no credibility or merit in having her as a candidate in Britain and no doubt the amount of work done pro bono by people like Martin Hasslam will show all too well she definitely isn’t worth the £36,000+ expenses she pockets just for her part time book keeping so one MUST assume there is an ulterior benefit for Farage for which she is being paid since EUkip could obtain a reputable BRITISH firm of accountants rather than a partisan friend!
Similarly Tiny Tim will no doubt be dumped back on the beach in Portugal from whence it seems he didn’t come for tax purposes!Sorry the facts are spilling over as so often so let us have a quick peek at some correspondence that has been leaked to me:From: Sent: 21 October 2008 01:37To: glancebackSubject: Open letter to the Fuhrer

Open Letter to UKIP Leader Nigel Farage 19.10.2008

Dear Nigel,

There are a number of issues, which need seriously addressing. Failure to deal with them brings the whole of UKIP into disrepute and in my view raises the question of whether you are a fit person to lead a political party.

I would remind you that I am not a politician. However I have always been concerned by those who enter politics and who lie and cheat as a normal part of their lives. As a result I want to know whether or not lying and cheating is now an accepted part of UKIP’s philosophy and internal management.

I suppose my mother is to blame for all this. Her philosophy was always “Tell the truth. Say what you mean, and don’t hold grudges”. It seems to me that you, and most of those sycophants that surround you, might take a completely opposite view.

To start with Nigel, you are aware that I made a Data Protection Act request to UKIP. The Party has made no effort to comply with the Law. How can you be taken seriously as a Party leader when you have allowed this to happen? Do you regard you and the Party to be above the Law? Perhaps you do and of course several senior Party members are currently being investigated by the police and OLAF.

Let me remind you of my background.
My first major choice of blatant lies or the truth came in 1969. The then Secretary of State for Social Security Richard Crossman, and his henchman, an MP from Kent called David Ennals – later ennobled, were liars. I could have ignored their lies or challenged them. I decided to challenge them.

The two of them lied their way through a Panorama programme on BBC television. Being a civil servant in the same department I was appalled, but was told by a senior officer that we could do nothing as the department paid our wages.

I took a different view, believing that as a” public servant” my first loyalty was to “the public”. Consequently as a matter of principle I believed that the truth should be told. As a result I wrote a series of articles under a pseudonym for The Spectator under the Editorship of Nigel Lawson. Needless to say, because my articles were totally factual the super-sleuths tracked me down, and at the age of twenty-six I was sacked and threatened with legal action under the Official Secrets Acts if I wrote another word. Of course I wrote again and of course I was not prosecuted – although for a young country boy taking on a bunch of dishonest politicians it was all rather stressful. Everything I said was later confirmed by a Committee of Inquiry.

I have made several other stands since then on matters of principle – usually honesty against political dishonesty – even police dishonesty. Stress is now not an issue as I am used to it all and of course won damages earlier in the year from the Gloucestershire Police. Information received under the Data Protection Act clearly showed that the police had lied about me and had no reasons to act against me. BY complying with the Data Protection Act the Gloucestershire Police actually incriminated themselves. Please note Nigel – UKIP still has not complied with my Data Protection Act request – thus not only breaking the provisions of the Act – but also implying to me, and others, that you have things to hide. Nigel, why won’t you comply with the ACT? I need to see the minutes of the “Political Committee” that allegedly discussed my case at the time of the internal elections. There are many emails too that I know exist and you must divulge. The Data Protection Act and the Freedom of Information Act are virtually the only pieces of good legislation passed by Blair – you seem to be frightened by them – why?

In 1979 I stood in the Thatcher General Election as a Tory in Bethnal Green. I achieved the second highest swing to the Tories in the country, and easily saved my deposit. It is normal after such an event and after such a personal result, to then put in for a safe seat. However, I found some of the other neighbouring Tories so deceitful, unpleasant and dishonest (some of whom went off in the traditional way to get safe seats) that I went off to write “The Wildlife of the Royal Estates” instead. I decided against a life in politics as I found most of those climbing the ladder totally unpleasant, as indeed I do today. Indeed the only politician that I met at the time that I held any respect for was Peter Shore in the next constituency. He seemed out of character for politicians past or present – straight, honest and pleasant.

When Jimmy Goldsmith came along I changed my mind. I felt I should get involved again – not for my sake – but to help save the pound, and even the country. I got on very well with him. Unlike some of those who huffed and puffed around him, bowing and scraping – I told him exactly how I saw things and I believe that he respected me for that – unlike you Nigel. Anybody who disagrees with you seems to be ejected from the Party – or set-up – and I expect in due course you will set up a Kangaroo Court full of “Yes men” to get rid of me – that seems to be democracy UKIP style at the moment.

Interestingly, or not, Jimmy wanted me to stand against John Major, but I refused, believing that local people should represent their own areas if at all possible. That is why in the Europeans I believe that David Bannerman should stand in London. Also of course, because I believe in total honesty, I do not believe that he should be using the name David Campbell Bannerman. He should be standing on his own ability, not on the name of a long dead politician – what is your take on this Nigel?

It may be of interest to you Nigel that because of my experience in broadcasting and writing I did the voice-over on the Referendum Party’s video that went to thousands of houses and also had some input on the script. Oddly I have never been asked for any input from UKIP as I am told that Jeffrey Titford would not allow it. I have never known why – although in the past you have confirmed the situation? So what was the problem Nigel?

With the sad loss of Jimmy Goldsmith you pleaded with me to join UKIP. After serious consideration, and realising that it could damage me professionally, particularly with the BBC, I agreed. At the same time I was doing much for the Countryside Alliance and at one rally addressed 125,000 people.

At the time of the European Elections in 2003 I agreed to be a candidate. As usually happens at the hustings I injured myself just before. I fell off a ladder and landed on my head – on concrete – concussing myself and damaging an arm. For trying to take part in one hustings meeting – with a splitting headache and leaving early, certain people within UKIP started “spinning” against me. A reliable journalist would not reveal the person or people involved but informed me that it came from the UKIP computer at its Chelmsford HQ. It was said later that the computer was examined and the entire material for the time concerned had been wiped. You stated at the time that the spinning must have been done by Titford, Gulleford or Wise individually or in combination. I have no idea. It was said that even so I missed second place by four votes. From the way in which UKIP runs its elections, I do not necessarily accept the result.
However – although I believe that I was stitched up – I agreed to do nothing, for the sake of UKIP.

However Nigel, you know that I have been stitched up for a second time and in view of the behaviour of Wise etc I am not prepared to allow blatant dishonesty to prevail again.

You know that for these elections I did exactly what your paid staff asked me to do. Strangely, an email from Stuart Agnew to John West actually confirms this and there should be other evidence that is almost certainly being withheld (or of course destroyed). You also know that the Curtis Report was nonsense and of course Wise put Curtis in place originally. You have also totally ignored the report and recommendations of your Returning Officer, Piers Merchant. The sooner UKIP elections are handled by the Electoral Reform Society to prevent vote rigging, gerrymandering and or corruption the better – but of course Nigel, I think you are opposed to that – why? You know that people were accepted late onto lists and apparently you have put your own choices at the top of lists. And are you going to parachute Bob Spink into the East? Then of course it was you who described the weak and silver-spooned Gill as “unprofessional”. The elections were a total farce. I am told that you spoke against me at meetings, when you told me you had no say in the matter at all. Thanks friend. Strange that – I did regard you as a friend. Evidently you regarded me in the same way as you regarded Richard North – what was that? Some sort of threat? You certainly don’t seem to understand teamwork, combining skills and abilities; you just seem to want to dominate “gofors” who say “Yes Nigel. No Nigel. Three bags full Nigel”.

Incidentally, your treatment of Richard North was a disgrace and at this particular time, Richard onboard, as part of a team, would have been invaluable. Where has UKIP been lately? Invisible – congratulations.

But there are other issues Nigel. I remember you boasting to me how much the call-centres were making. Where did the money go and how much did they make?

In my view you must also come clean about the Isle of Man. Have you and/or your brother got a Trust Fund there or not? What is it for and where did the money come from? If it is an educational Trust, as it is rumoured, who can benefit from it? I know you were on the Isle of Man for two days in May – did any aspect of your trip involve money? These are all reasonable questions Nigel and require an answer. Are members of the NEC incapable of asking these questions?

It is odd – in the past you have claimed to want honesty and transparency in Europe. I want to see honesty and transparency in UKIP. At the moment UKIP has become the “sleaze party” it seems to me.

Then there is the “wog” issue. If it is just a story to create mischief, fine, say so and it gives people chance to believe you. But it is also said that there are witnesses and you were filmed – which if true would make it difficult. So be honest Nigel. Did it occur? If it did you should stand down. If it did not – fine.

I urged you to stand as leader. I was wrong. In my view you have shown that you have few leadership qualities – surrounding yourself with yes men and in my view flouting UKIP’s own rules. You are turning UKIP into a one-man band – a dictatorship – and at the same time turning a small party into an even smaller party. All this also helps to explain to me why you gave me virtually no support when at short notice I was removed from the BBC’s “Question Time” and never put back on again.

In my view Nigel your honesty and integrity has descended to the same level as Edward Heath. I am disappointed as I considered you as a friend and taking on my mother’s philosophy I still like you, as I don’t bear grudges. However Nigel for the sake of UKIP and the good people making up the grass roots – stand down before you do any more damage to the anti-EU cause. You are not only bringing UKIP into disrepute, in my view, you are confirming that politics brings out the worst in people. Power and politics, however small and insignificant, corrupt – pathetic isn’t it?

Yours,

Robin Page

I am sure many of you could list far more comments than those Robin has chosen – had you heard that I am mad?

That I am a BNP supporter?
That I work for the EU?
That I work for MI5 or was it 6 well maybe CIA or oh yes that imbecile Boob Feel Martinis claimed I worked for BOSS (South African Bureau fOr State Security!), You will have heard that EUkip never prosecute me because I have no money!!!
Any decent organisation would seek to silence me and force an apology through the Courts based on maintaining their reputation – EUkip however are well aware that no libel is committed if the statement is the truth and that as Batten said to one person by mistake that it would cost over £100,000 to lose in Court! A Freudian slip or a statement of the obvious as he realises.
Then there is the ridiculous claim that because I have cancer they would not look good trying to clear their name – however I do have the witnessed statements of one EUkip MEP saying ‘The Bloody Bookseller in Chepstow but who cares he’ll be dead soon he’s got cancer’ without accessing the documents as I recall that was in early 2002!
Virtually without exception the EUkip MEPs are some of the most revolting, ill educated, dishonest chavs it has been my misfortune to meet I do so agree with Robin’s assessments above. Sadly the pond life that has gathered like parasites and leaches around them are the only thing that makes them look good – Croucher, Denny, Fuller, Moran, Carver, Zucherman, McGough, Smith, Bannerman, Duffy, Andreasen, Wood, Lott, Williams, Mickelthwaite, Kingscott, Agnew, Lawson etc. low lifes, trash, spivs, climbers and beneath contempt in their dishonesty – as proven by the mess the party is in!
Many will recall the lies of Farage during the hustings and the lies of his supporters and staff to ensure they kept their snouts in the troughs.What do you think of this comment:

From: Sent: 21 October 2008 00:15To: glancebackSubject: Ukip’s failure to comply with Data Protection Act request

From Robin Page by email 19.10.2008
Hard copy to be sent on 20.10.2008

Dear Paul Nuttall,

This is to remind you that UKIP has failed to comply with any aspect of my Data Protection Act request.

As required by law I am sending you a copy of the original request made to your predecessor.

I am now giving you seven days to comply with the requirements of the Act.
Failure to do this will mean that I will have to take my complaint directly to the Information Commissioner, Mr.Richard Thomas.

I have to say that UKIP’s failure to comply with the law further brings UKIP, particular its leader and members of the NEC, into disrepute, and in my view indicates serious maladministration. From comments I have heard I believe that there is a growing feeling within UKIP that the present leader and several members of the NEC should stand down before dragging UKIP even further down into the gutter and into electoral oblivion at the next European elections.

I have to say too that by simply returning my cheque emphasises UKIP’s incompetence and belief that it is above the law. In fact the reality of the action is that UKIP has been shown itself to be childish, as well as incompetent, a very unfortunate condition for a political party that wants to run a country.

I hope to hear from you soon with all the information requested under the Data Protection Act. A further result of your failure to comply will also mean that I will have to inform the Electoral Commission of your behaviour, which is totally unacceptable.

Yours sincerely,

Robin Page

Robin is being foolish thinking NuttAll has any say!

NuttAll is merely profiting from the corruption in EUkip and is thus no more nor less scum than the rest of them – PLACED in position by Farage he is owned, bought and paid for – a man of ANY integrity would have refused to collude in such chavvery a pathetic little Liverpool Scally with, it seems, a reputation for aggression and no ability as a mediator or leader – like his puppet master.
Were he a man he would be ashamed to appear in public.Let them huff, puff and bluster Robin these sad little muppets haven’t a clue how to behave they don’t even trust eachother or how would I be supplied by so much information by so many – Both the honest seeking a clean up and the corrupt seeking protection are my informants and even those who run off at the mouth in public slandering me are some that inform me in the certain knowledge that I WILL NEVER break a trust but if I find out through other means they are doomed.

Like Robin I can not stand corruption, dishonesty or greed in public life.
Further I have NEVER wittingly lied on any matter of consequence NEVER deliberately.
PLEASE HELP US TO CLEAN UP EUkip and restore it to the people as UKIP in a fit and proper condition that men and women of integrity could vote for it and if that can not be done
PLEASE HELP US ensure not one single MEP is elected from amongst the scum that are listed.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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