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Ukip Scotland’s Chairman Charged With Sexual Offences To Answer To The Courts

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/10/2016

 
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Ukip Scotland’s Chairman Arthur Misty Thackeray has been Charged With Sexual Offences & is To Answer To The Courts for his lewd behaviour!

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Former UKIP chairman denies sex offences

  • Arthur Thackeray

The former chairman of UKIP in Scotland has appeared in court, accused of a string of sexual offences.

Arthur Misty Thackeray, 55, denies 12 charges spanning eight years between October 2007 and December 2015, involving 12 different women.

The offences are said to have occurred at his Glasgow home, at 1 St Colme Street, Edinburgh and “elsewhere”.

UKIP Scotland leader and MEP David Coburn’s office is at the same address in the capital.

One of the charges is an alleged breach of the peace by making sexual remarks over the phone to a woman and her 14-year-old daughter and telling them he was watching a “sexually explicit video”.

Another is behaving in a threatening or abusive manner “likely to cause a reasonable person to suffer fear or alarm” by repeatedly contacting a woman and “causing” her to believe he was outside her home and watching her.

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Image caption: Some charges are alleged to have taken place at the office address of MEP David Coburn.

The other 10 charges are for allegedly “communicating indecently”.

These include contacting women by telephone, “uttering sexual remarks” and “directing sexual questions” at some of them, as well as causing some to believe he was watching adult material while talking to them.

He is also accused of causing another woman to believe he was watching her and causing her to hear “sexual noises”.

His lawyer Jackie White withdrew from acting due to problems with legal aid and the court appointed another lawyer when the case was called at Glasgow Sheriff Court on Wednesday. The case was continued until a later date.

Mr Thackeray stood down temporarily from his position in UKIP when the allegations came to light in January.

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Many Believe Farage Is Damaging BreXit – Look At Ukip’s Damage In Scotland

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/04/2016

Many Believe Farage Is Damaging BreXit – Look At Ukip’s Damage In Scotland

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Many Believe Farage Is Damaging BreXit – Look At Ukip’s Damage In Scotland

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many believe that Nigel Farage’s support for BreXit is in the main a kiss of death to the Leave-The_EU Campaign, with his undeniably racist immage as he centers his efforts on inciting racial hatred aimed at immigrants – he is in the position that on certain issues a mild whisper from him becomes a violent shout amongst his fan club in Ukip, a position of responsibility he has never failed to abuse for his own glory and enrichment!

Cash and immigrants are as insignificant to most who might have voted to Leave-The-EU as his other two mantras revolving around drink and smoking as he promotes his libertine life style as some sort of role model for the weak and gullible.

If you thought Nigel Farage & Ukip’s actions were damaging to the Leave-The-EU cause they are nothing to the well publicised and bitter squabbling in Ukip especially north of the border where Farage’s henchman the loud mothed bufoon and Ukip MEP David Cameron is dragging the Leave Campaign into the ill informed, bullying and boorish gutter he seems so at home in!

Scottish ‘Vote Leave’ launch descends into farce as Ukip roll up


Scottish ‘Vote Leave’ launch descends into farce as Ukip roll up

Tom Gordon, Scottish Political Editor

THE launch of the official EU Out campaign in Scotland descended into farce yesterday, after the organisers turned away Scotland’s only Ukip MEP for trying to speak uninvited.

The Vote Leave campaign refused entry to David Coburn after he pitched up at the Grand Central Hotel in Glasgow and threw a strop when he was told he couldn’t take part. One witness said Coburn had been “furious” at the snub.

However, the Remain or In side also had its problems on the first weekend of the EU campaign, after former Tory chancellor Kenneth Clarke said David Cameron “wouldn’t last 30 seconds if he lost the referendum”.

Despite the Prime Minister telling MPs last week that he would stay to negotiate the terms of the UK’s withdrawal if there was a Brexit vote, Clarke said that scenario was “just farcical”.

“We’d be plunged into a Conservative leadership crisis, which is never very edifying,” he said, adding the Tory party would have a “devil of a job” to come together again, however the vote goes on June 23.

London Mayor Boris Johnson attacked Cameron for “shamefully” spending £9.3m of public money on a pro-EU leaflet for every UK household, saying the 14-page document was “not sufficiently absorbent for the purposes” to which some people might like to put it.

Johnson, also criticised Barack Obama for “hypocrisy” ahead of his visit to the UK this week, when he is expected to support Cameron’s call to stay in the EU.

He said the US President had a “perfect right” to comment, but added it was “absolutely bizarre that we are being lectured by the Americans about giving up our sovereignty” when they “would never dream” of sharing theirs with the EU or anyone else.

Speaking in Washington, Chancellor George Osborne said it was the “overwhelming view” of foreign governments and international bodies like the IMF and Nato that the UK should stay in the EU, and warned Brexit could mean higher mortgage rates.

In Glasgow, Scottish Vote Leave director Tom Harris said Coburn had “invited himself to be one of the speakers” at its launch, and threatened to be disruptive when he was refused.

Harris said: “If he wants to get involved in the campaign, I am happy to discuss that with him. But I am not going to be pressurised into giving him a speaker spot at the last minute.”

Coburn said he had gone “to wish them well and offer my shoulder to the ecumenical wheel as the established lead voice and only Pro-Brexit elected representative in Scotland. I did then offer to speak at the event, as I thought having someone the Scots had actually elected speaking would help rebalance the event. My offer was declined.”

At the event, Harris claimed pro-Brexit SNP, Labour and Tory candidates in May’s Holyrood election feared speaking out on Europe because they were being “gagged” by their parties.

He said: “A lot of them just don’t want to rock the boat and draw attention to themselves. I know there are candidates standing for the Scottish Parliament who feel as I do, that we should be leaving the EU on June 23. But they are inhibited by their own party’s [Remain] line on the EU, and don’t want to say anything publicly at least until May 5, and possibly not even after that. That is fundamentally undemocratic.

“It is absolutely essential that we have the opportunity to grill our candidates and get an honest answer from them on whether or not they will actually vote themselves to leave or remain. It is not enough to say it is a separate election from the referendum.”
Also speaking, Tory Northern Ireland Secretary Theresa Villiers said the EU was “unreformable” and primarily a political project to create a “country called Europe”.

Villiers said Britain joined in 1973 in an “admission of defeat” that the country was facing “chronic decline”, but it was now time for “self-governing democracy” to return.

“I fundamentally believe we are better off, safer, more secure, more prosperous if this country is outside the EU,” she said, claiming Brexit could mean better export deals on whisky.

The Out campaign’s efforts coincided with the SNPs’ two MEPs launching the ‘The Wee Bleu Book’, a voter-friendly guide to the EU and the the case for staying in it.

The 64-page tract is available free from the scotlandineuope.eu website. There is also an initial print run of 2000 hard copies. Authors Alyn Smith and Ian Hudghton said they wanted the book to become the go-to resource for the EU referendum.

Smith said: “My focus, obviously, is the Holyrood election but as I’ve been travelling the country there is no denying that EU stuff is being talked about, so this website is available to all as a resource to get the real facts out there.

“There’s a lot of nonsense spoken about the EU, and it’s important not to be distracted from the fact that EU membership is entirely in our best interests and the SNP is enthusiastically backing a Remain vote for the right reasons.

“While it has been produced for SNP activists, I hope the book reaches wider. At least on paper, Scottish politics is broadly united that our best interests are remaining in the EU so while every party will be doing their own thing, if anyone wants to use this I’m delighted.”

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With an avg. 1.2M voters per MEP & Britain having only 8%, if united, say. The EUropean Parliament has no ability to make policy and has a Commission of unelected bureaucrats, thus clearly the EU is not even a pretence of being a democracy; yet The EU & many of its vassal States are willing to slaughter people in Sovereign States to impose The EU’s chosen brand of democracy on them!

The imposition of a Government and policies upon its vassal regions such as the peoples of Greece shows just how far from being a democracy the EU is.

There will be little or no change in Britain’s economic position, when we leave the EU, using a better negotiated & updated version of the ‘Norway Model’ as a stepping stone to becoming a full member of the Eropean Economic Area, where all will benefit, as we secure trade relations with the EU’s vassal regions, with an EFTA style status and can trade and negotiate independently on the global stage, as members of The Commonwealth and the Anglosphere.

One huge benefit will be that we can negotiate with bodies like the WTO, UN, WHO, IMF, CODEX and the like, directly in our own interest and that of our partners around the world in both the Commonwealth and the Anglosphere at large; rather than having negotiations and term imposed by unelected EU bureacrats and their ionterpretation of the rules handed down as if they were some great achievement by the EU.
The greatest change and benefit will be political, as we improve our democracy and self determination, with the ability to deselect and elect our own Government, with an improved Westminster structure, see >Harrogate Agenda<.
How we go about the process of disentangling our future wellbeing from the EU is laid out in extensive, well researched and immensely tedious detail see >FleXcit< or for a brief video summary CLICK HERE
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David Coburn Drags Ukip’s Reputation In The Gutter

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/04/2015

David Coburn Drags Ukip’s Reputation In The Gutter
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Ukip’s MEP David Coburn their leader in Scotland Drags Ukip’s Reputation In The Gutter with his bullying and boorish behaviour.

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anyone who believes that Ukip’s leader in Scotland David Coburn is anything other than an ill mannered, odious, ignorant boer can readily disabuse themselves by accessing his interview on TV on the night of the Scottish devolution vote.

On that night David Coburn made a fool of himself and Ukip with his ill informed bullying and abusive comments, judging by his florid and sweating appearance alcohol fueled in a manner that brought Ukip into disrepute.

At the time, although David Coburn had been elected as Ukip’s MEP in Scotland, based on the votes obtained by Ukip in Scotland rather than any personal support, David Coburn boasted of being domicile in London and had no home or residency in Scotland.

Ukip MEP David Coburn banned from Wikipedia indefinitely

Online administrator blocks user account of ‘David Coburn MEP’ over attempts to alter article about the Ukip politician 69 times in six days
When contacted by the Guardian, Coburn said he had started editing the Wikipedia page after spotting mistakes on it.
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When contacted by the Guardian, Coburn said he had started editing the Wikipedia page after spotting mistakes on it. Photograph: Ken Jack/Demotix/Corbis

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Ukip politician David Coburn has been indefinitely banned from Wikipedia after attempting to alter an article about himself 69 times in six days.

The ‘David Coburn MEP’ user account was blocked by an administrator at the online encyclopedia last month after repeatedly trying to make edits to the website’s article on Coburn, who has a reputation for making controversial comments.

Coburn, the Ukip MEP for Scotland, told the Guardian he had directed one of his staff to make the changes in order to clear the page of “garbage” and “nonsense”.

“David Coburn MEP” began altering the page on 1 April this year, removing a passage stating that Coburn had allegedly muddled the name of SNP candidate Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh repeatedly during the 2014 European parliament campaign.

Sheikh had accused Coburn of calling her “Pashmina, Jasmine and Tamzin before eventually settling on a combination of ‘love’, ‘dear’ and ‘honey’,” and that she had found the remarks to be sexist and possibly racist. At the time, Ukip’s Scottish chairman denied Coburn had repeatedly mispronounced Sheikh’s name, saying he had only mispronounced it once. Coburn told the Guardian that Sheikh’s allegation was “nonsense”.

Three minutes after Coburn removed the passage it was reinserted by another user. One minute later, Coburn removed it again.
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These were the first of dozens of changes over the following six days encompassing a number of factual disputes, including whether Coburn lived in Edinburgh or London, whether he attended the High School of Glasgow or a high school in Glasgow, and whether he had said ever stated he would “work closely with the so-called London elite” (Coburn says he did not). He also repeatedly tried to add a statement that there was “no material difference” between civil partnerships and gay marriage to his article.

The MEP’s edits were interpreted by other users as breaching one of the site’s rules on conflicts of interest, defined as when users alter articles to make them more favourable to themselves.

Wikipedia also prohibits users from engaging in “edit wars”, in which different users repeatedly delete each other’s contributions. During one particularly intense dispute, Coburn was accused by another user of getting into an edit war with himself and repeatedly deleting his own changes.

Coburn left a number of notes on the website complaining that other users were disregarding his own account of his life.

“I am David Coburn MEP – I am aware of where I live – I live in Edinburgh – I am also aware of where I went to school & which University I attended – there are several people changing the facts and they need to stop,” he wrote.
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He later added: “Apparently I dont know where I live nor which school I attended or the University I attended – is there anything else you would like to update me on?” and suggested he would complain to Wikipedia about people editing his article maliciously.

The account was first blocked for a limit of 31 hours (“after many, many warnings” according to one administrator) but later blocked indefinitely.
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When contacted by the Guardian, Coburn said he had started editing the page after spotting mistakes on it, but that he had stopped after getting bored.

“I hear it gets changed all the time. Personally I don’t give a damn what people write about me. People write the most colourful things about me and I’ve got the hide of a rhino and I don’t really give a damn,” he said.

“I’m sure its all wee cybernats who’ve got nothing better to do with their time and they should actually be out getting a job.”

Asked if he had followed through on his threat to complain, Coburn replied: “Did we complain in the end? Did I bother? I can’t remember. I don’t think we could be bothered. I think I’ve got too much on my plate. It’s one of those things I meant to do and never bothered.”

Asked about specific changes, he said that it was a month ago and he did not remember the details of what was changed.

“It was done by one of my people. I don’t know how to press the buttons to make it work. I was telling them what to do. If there was garbage on there I told them to take it off,” he said.

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IF you are in any doubt of the unpleasant nature of David Coburn and Ukip’s contempt for Scotland in appointing him as their leader in Scotland consider this series of informed Tweets:

Folded Towel XCI retweeted David Coburn MEP

UKIP Scotland leader can’t even spell the name of the town where he crashed the hustings.

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The UKIP candidate has now told me it wasn’t Misty Thackeray, but his partner.

I know that many other Scottish members of UKIP are very displeased. One told me that Coburn and Thackery are “both massive dickheads”

Let’s be clear, East Lothian UKIP candidate was embarrassed by Coburn + Thackery’s actions. He had to tell them to calm down.

There isn’t a truer face of UKIP. Nasty bullies. They showed nothing but contempt to the candidates, the audience and the organiser.

The top brass of UKIP’s Scottish branch showed up to a church-organised, constituency hustings and behaved like noxious bullies.

It was a personal highlight to tell David Coburn and Thackery etc to “shut up” in front of a room full of people.

Just to make clear, David Coburn wasn’t a candidate at the Hustings. He positioned himself in the audience from where he heckled.

I’ve just admonished Coburn and Thackery, after yet another outburst, with “you don’t even live here [in East Lothian]”.

Incumbent Labour candidate Fiona O’Donnell says she is against Trident (opposing party policy). Calls for sanctions on Israeli settlements.

Even the UKIP candidate is now trying to get David Coburn and Thackery etc to calm down and be quiet.

Coburn and Thackeray just accused SNP candidate of “promoting” the rise of ISIS. Outbursts are getting wackier.

Coburn and the UKIP bunch are again targeting the Green candidate with outbursts. Room responds with biggest round of applause yet.

Tory candidate talking a lot of sense about the mess Britain has helped to create in the Middle East.

After I told David Coburn and co to “just shut up” they’ve been conspicuously quiet whilst the candidates are speaking.

After I refused Misty Thackery’s demand to move seats, he has now decided to move seats himself and is furiously reading my tweets.

The UKIP candidate has just said that the NHS should be modeled on the Israeli system, where he visited last year.

Thackery has just engaged me in a staring contest. I think I won. Intimidation isn’t going to work on me.

Thackery and Coburn again rudely guffawing whilst Green candidate is speaking. Told by audience member to shut up and show respect.

. nope, I can still taste the alcohol from his breath.

I don’t think I’m going to get that interview with Coburn for my blog now. Ruined my chances.

I’ve just been told by Misty Thackery, David Coburn’s aide, to “go sit somewhere else” because he’s read my tweets.

David Coburn MEP is loudly laughing and guffawing whilst SNP, Green and Labour candidates are talking. Typical.

David Coburn openly and rudely laughing as Green candidate states that people like elected Green politicians such as + Lucas.

“If I’m elected to Westminster next week… I won’t be that MP drinking in the Commons’ bars.” – UKIP candidate.

The UKIP candidate is now giving his opening statement. Young lad who grew up locally. Talking about pride of East Lothian voting no.

David Coburn MEP just told me directly that they are “confident” that he will be elected in Falkirk. The polls are “lying” he claims.

David Coburn MEP (UKIP) is sitting two rows in front. He shook my hand (I was too polite to decline, sorry )

I’m at the East Lothian hustings. I’m the only non-white person in the room and I’m sitting right behind the UKIP lot.

Final East Lothian hustings tonight. Northesk Parish Church, Bridge Street, Musselburgh at 7pm. All candidates will be present.

My own Tweets may also enhance your understanding of the style and behaviour of David Coburn and Ukip:

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David Coburn’s performance as an MEP in the EU is relatively mediocre rating 45th out of the British MEPs and 124th out of the 751 MEP total!
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It is my opinion that the crass and boorish behaviour of David Coburn since his election as an MEP and leader of Ukip in Scotland has done more harm to Ukip, particularly in Scotland than even his predecessors such as Christopher Monkton ever did or even that done by the outspoken Zionist based racism of Malcolm Lord Pearson or the superstition based racism of Gerard Batten!
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Clearly Christopher Monkton Hasn’t Been Sleeping With The Right People!

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it would seem that Christopher Monkton hasn’t been sleeping with the right people in Ukip! It does seem that with whom U kip will determine your future in Ukip as shown by CLICK HERE Let us not forget that it is widely believed, though implausibly denied, that Annabelle Fuller has held various jobs through thick and thin as a result of her sexual relationship with Nigel Farage, the cult leader.
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Nigel Farage’s patronage saved her when she lied having broken the law under the Data protection Act and posted Ukip confidential material on the internet and fled, as ever, to Morocco, and may well extend to her current protection, so far, from arrest for theft under the National Security laws having entered an MP’s flat and stolen his Blackberry phone device, confidential correspondence and a House of Commons pass – a crime she has admitted to, and seemingly lied to try to mittigate her theft when caught claiming sexual assault by Andrew Bridgen (whilst in the presence of others!!) and to boot she was, we are given to understand, the subject of a statement by Patrick O’Flynn a statement given to the police that she knew exactly who Andrew Bridgen was and his status as an MP when she targeted him in a Westminster pub, earlier in the day!
It was also made perfectly clear that Nigel Farage employed his wife Kirsten for much the same reason and stated she often did things for him late at night in her night dress, due to the fact that he was both computer illiterate and often came home at unsociable hours – Are we to assume she is still employed on the same grounds but is performing for Farage’s ex gofer and fixer Ray Finch, who was one of his placemen as an MEP!
Then of course there has been the publicity surrounding an apparent selection and CV rewriting service in return for sexual favours by Roger Bird CLICK HERE and who else on wonders!

Ukip’s woes deepen as five members suspended from standing as candidates

UKIP’s turmoil in Scotland deepened last night after the right-wing anti-immigrant party suspended five senior members from its approved list of candidates.

 

The individuals – including the former Scottish leader and chair – are critics of party MEP David Coburn, prompting accusations of “control freakery”.

UKIP was last week rocked by allegations of sexual harassment against party general secretary Roger Bird, who was accused of making inappropriate suggestions to a potential female candidate.

However, a lingering row is also continuing to hamper the party north of the border.

Last year, six of UKIP Scotland’s shortlisted candidates for the European election withdrew after believing a small clique of activists was planning a takeover.

The botched selection contest was eventually won by Coburn, who was later elected to the Brussels Parliament and became the party’s first elected representative in Scotland.

Two of the six members have since quit the party, and the other four – Christopher Monckton, Mike Scott-Hayward, Paul Henke and Ross Durance – have now had action taken against them.

Matthew Richardson, the UKIP party secretary, recently informed the quartet that they could not be party candidates in future elections.

He wrote: “Having investigated your case in greater depth with the Party Chairman, he has taken the decision to suspend you as an approved candidate under 12.2.1 of the constitution as he considered that your withdrawal from the candidate list during the selection process for the European elections was disruptive to the Party and brought it into public disrepute.”

Each member was told that “you are not therefore a suitable person to be a candidate for the Party in the future”.

The fifth candidate curb was imposed on Donald Gatt for alleged “published comments” following the European selection contest.

Monckton, who used to front UKIP Scotland until he was sacked by party leader Nigel Farage, is believed to have arranged a meeting for the suspended candidates in Edinburgh today.

Scott-Hayward, a former party chair, told the Sunday Herald: “It is totally undemocratic and is totally out of line with the party’s principles.”

He added: “I consider that I failed in my tenure as their Chairman in that I did not achieve one of my objectives which was to alter the balance of membership away from the wilder and more extremist thinkers towards a greater number of sensible, right thinking folk who do indeed support UKIP’s main policies.”

His party membership lapsed in the last few days.

Henke, who has stood for UKIP eight times in elections, was previously suspended for 100 years by the party for speaking to the media.

This ban was lifted following a court challenge.

UKIP Scotland’s current chair is Misty Thackeray, who was revealed by this newspaper to have accused Glasgow City Council as being for “Gays, Catholics [and] Communists”.

He is now Coburn’s chief of staff. One party source said of the suspensions: “It’s about helping David and Misty. It’s control-freakery.”

A UKIP spokesman said: “It is a pity, but they wanted to be the message, rather than represent the party. They were divisive and had no concept of teamwork.”

A spokesman for the Scottish Conservatives said: “UKIP is clearly not competent nor credible in Scotland. The party has consistently failed at by-elections, and binning five of its prospective candidates won’t help that.

SNP MEP Alyn Smith said: “The ongoing shambles of UKIP in Scotland continues – at this rate they’ll have no candidates left to stand in north of the border.”

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Having watched the abusive, ill mannered, dishonest, strident, shouty and thoroughly unpleasnt David Coburn’s performance on TV on the night of the failed pro Scottish Devolution.one starts to realise just what low grade and inappropriate are Ukip’s MEPs and sadly the closer one looks at them the more unfit for office on realises every single one of them is WITHOUT EXCEPTION!
Ukip has consistently not just recruited from the gutter of politics for its support but has empowered some particularly odious self serving ne’r do wells as MEPs and staff – It is hard to think of a single Ukip MEP, who has stayed with the party, now or in the past who one would be proud to call a friend or even a representative.
Ukip has so befouled the body politic, and that takes some doing with the likes of Ed Balls, Ed Milliband, Peter Haine, Harriet Harman, Dawn Primarollo, Diane Abbott, Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, Edward Heath,Chris Huhne, Alex Salmond, Michael Martin, Cyril SmiJerry Adams, David Blunkett, John Prescott, Jack Straw, The Kinnocks, Neil Hamilton, John Major and the like as competition Ukip has even out performed them!
Is it any wonder that when Ukip first stood for election the present cult leader stood to replace Stephen Milligan who had been found dead on his kitchen table wearing only stckings and a suspender belt, with a segment of orange in his mouth and a black garbage sack over his head asphyxiated in an act of auto-erotic self gratification, he was found in the early hours of the morning as a result it is claimed, of a call from a senior member of the government who had been upstairs in his bed – even so Ukip only obtained 1.7% of the vote on a turnout of only 58%
20 years later Ukip still has no genuinely electerd MPs having only recently had 2 Tory turncoats stand and win back their Tory seats as Ukippers all be it at loggerheads with Nigel Farage’s leadership and Nigel Farage’s policy and Nigel Farage’s Praise Singers in HIS press officer.
Ukip’s woes and bad publicity, ineptitude and infighting gets ever more catastrophic for the party ever strengthening their glass ceiling and ensuring they are unlikely ever to be of ANY significance in UK governance. Which mionded of their behaviour seems ever more of a relief!
So here’s to Ukip:
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Which Idiot Exposed Ukip To This Criticism?

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Nigel Farage is heading for government – but his Ukipper capers would be a menace to Britain

Sunday People political editor Nigel Nelson urges voters not to give Nigel Farage a crack at government

PAINS ON AN ASSPAINS ON AN ASS

Some intelligence reaches me which I might avoid sharing with my children – each generation has been brighter than the last.

Denmark has carried out the same IQ test on 18 year olds since the 1950s to check their suitability for military service.

And the Danes found IQ went up three points a decade.

Then something odd happened. Scores peaked in 1998 and are now 1.5 points lower. UK and Australian studies produced similar results.

Scientists don’t know why we’re getting dumb. And dumber. Just that we are.

Which takes me to the North Kent coast and the South Thanet constituency where I suspect Danish IQ testing would show an even sharper decline in intelligence.

That’s because Nigel Farage has been selected as Ukip parliamentary candidate there.

South Thanet voters would need the IQ of donkeys to send the Ukip leader to Westminster. And those in Clacton would be asses to allow Tory defector Douggie Carswell to remain their MP.

 

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This Nigel likes that Nigel. I enjoy his company, and admire his political savvy.But Ukip MPs would be a bloody menace if David Cameron or Ed Miliband end up leading a minority government next year.

Coalition deals would have to be done, and if Ukip had any part in them it would be a deal with the devil.

Ukip is no party of government. Its manifesto looks as if Nigel wrote it on the back of one of his fag packets.

Ukip’s only answer to complex issues like terrorism, immigration, and fuel poverty is to leave the EU.

The Kippers even claim, bizarrely, that exiting Europe would put more fish in the sea.

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Ukip’s pledge: more fish in British waters

 And then there Nigel’s own IQ to consider. He’s offering to buy a pint for the winner of the Ukip conference prize draw, a modest financial commitment.

I’ve read the small print which says the competition “is open to individuals aged 16 or over who are resident in the UK.”

But 16 year olds can only drink legally in a pub if they are bought a meal as well.

And I wouldn’t trust Britain’s economy to a man who spends five times more than he originally intended.

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Yes all too easily this can be shown to be the frippery of the media but the very fact that Ukip is laid open to these criticisms whether of failing to explain how their move to leave the CFP might give rise to more fish and how abrogating on Treaty Undertakings can be achieved or encouraging 16 to 18 year olds to break the law, when it comes to the national licensing laws.
How may the idiots in Ukip’s leadership team be considered suitable for any position in Governance when their entire policy seems to revolve around policies and clever weezes dreamed up on the spur of the moment and endless ill thought out band wagon jumping is no substitute for gravitas, reliability and responsible intelligent planning.
After 21 years with the core policy of Leave_The_EU neither Nigel Farage nor Ukip in general have managed to provide a credible, honourable and ethical exit and survival strategy – little wonder they lost their last representative MP at Westminster so rapidly when Bob Spink saw through the smoke and mirrors and comic behaviour of Ukip’s leadership to its core of racism, anti homosexuality and criminal corruption.
Little wonder Ukip after 21 years has but a miniscule spattering of Councillors and that includes the all but irrelevant Town & Local Councillors and absolutely no one within so much as a sniff of election in a General Election as they pin their desperate hopes on a Tory turncoat hanging onto his seat in a by election!
Like Alex Salmond in Scotland Ukip is desperately trying to enrich and empower itself without any credible structure or plan, dependent on stirring up fear and hatred amongst the least well educated and those who feel dispossessed by the relentless march of modern life and the unarguable effects of the global increase in population, communications, mobility and technology hand in hand with undeniable increases in temperature and changes of weather patterns that this planet has always been at the mercy of as our local star pulsates on what seems to be a cyclical basis over the eons!
I note today a Ukip press release written for Jill Seymour that endeavours to make much of the efforts of Staffordshire to ring fence expenditure for its cancer patients and end of life patients – yet as ever with Ukip they capitalise on criticism funded by the public purse but have, like Alex Salmond, no plan B.
For those interested in the subject of cancer care, the NHS and end of life care may I suggest you CLICK HERE for some FACTS! I suggest Jill Seymour reads this too before letting Ukip write more press releases for her!
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Ongoing War In UKIP Scotland & other areas

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Ukip at war in Scotland

UKIP in Scotland is in “turmoil” after six of its nine European candidates quit amid allegations of dirty tricks and claims an ally of UK leader Nigel Farage was unfairly helped in the contest.

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Ukip’s Scottish leader Christopher Monckton and David Coburn, ‘ally’ of Nigel Farage, right

The six, who include Scottish leader Lord Christopher Monckton and chair Mike Scott-Hayward, stood down as ballot papers were about to be sent out.

But the party pushed ahead with the selection and David Coburn, who is Ukip’s London chair, was the controversial winner. A party source described the process as a “shambles” and evidence of London “parachuting in” a candidate.

Ukip in Scotland has failed to replicate the party’s success south of the Border, where Farage and his team have elected representatives in town halls and Brussels. At recent Holyrood by-elections, Otto Inglis polled 4.83% in Aberdeen Donside and Peter Adams got 3.75% in Dunfermline.

But Ukip in England is tipped to do well in next year’s European election, with the Scottish party in the hunt to take one of Scotland’s six MEP seats.

The prospect of a breakthrough prompted some of the Scottish wing’s biggest hitters to stand in the contest.

Nine candidates were shortlisted: Monckton; Scott-Hayward; Inglis; Coburn; Paul Henke; Ross Durance; Malcolm Macaskill; Steven McKeane; and Kevin Newton.

The selection was aimed at whittling down the nine hopefuls to six.

Whoever came top of the internal ballot had, in the words of one insider, a “decent” chance of becoming an MEP next year. But the selection has prompted an extraordinary bout of infighting and a civil war between the UK party and its Scottish branch. On the eve of ballot papers being sent out to Scottish members in September, some candidates became concerned about the alleged tactics being used by Inglis.

There was also suspicion about the presence in the race of Coburn, who was believed to be an ally of Farage.

Fears were aggravated when Ukip’s Lanarkshire branch sent an email saying it endorsed Coburn and Inglis as “preferred lead and second candidates”. The statement added: “Lanarkshire branch office bearers and members are thereby requested to canvass and cast votes on behalf of David Coburn and Otto Inglis alone.”

The grievances came to a head at a candidates’ summit in Edinburgh in September. Seven of the nine – the exceptions being Inglis and Coburn – resigned as candidates in an email to Ukip chair Steve Crowther. They stated: “We withdraw as candidates for European parliamentary seats.”

In a clear dig at Coburn, they claimed that “Ukip’s leader had invited a London friend to stand”, adding a senior figure in the contest had “unfairly advantaged him”.

The letter complained about the alleged tactics of another candidate, which a source confirmed as Inglis.

They said of the Lanarkshire email: “A branch broke the rules by widely endorsing these two candidates.”

The candidates claimed that Ukip in London “twice refused” to suspend the ballot pending an investigation.

It is understood Newton reversed his decision to quit.

Despite this meltdown, Ukip sent ballot papers to Scottish members with all nine candidates on it.

With more than half of the contenders no longer competing, it left the relatively unknown Coburn with a huge opportunity, which he took, as he topped the poll.

One source said Ukip has presided over a “shambles” in Scotland: “It would appear they think parachuting in a London-based Scot is the answer. You cannot invite candidates to join a fair election fight when in reality the whole ballot appears to have been fixed from the start.”

The source added: “We have blown any prospects of electoral success in next year’s European elections.”

Ukip recently published the results of the list rankings for Wales, Northern Ireland and regions in England, but not Scotland.

Coburn describes himself as “Lead Ukip Scotland MEP Candidate” on his Twitter feed.

The mass resignation is the latest setback for Farage’s party in Scotland. Earlier this year, Farage had to abandon a press conference in an Edinburgh pub after being heckled.

He said: “The anger, the hatred, the shouting, the snarling, the swearing was all linked in to a desire for the Union Jack to be burnt.”

Asked about the resignations, Lord Monckton said: “I just want to confirm where we’ve got to with London. Once that’s been sorted out, the position will become clear.”

Asked why he resigned, he said: “We will go into all of that after London has come up with its answer.”

Henke said of his decision to withdraw: “It was about fairness. I took my name off the list.”

Inglis said: “Speak to someone further up the tree.”

Coburn said that he had won the internal contest, but denied Farage had asked him to stand. Asked about the six resignations, he said: “I can’t really discuss the list. I’m just a candidate like everyone else.”

He added: “There is no civil war in Ukip Scotland. There are always disgruntled people everywhere.”

Macaskill, Durance and Scott-Hayward did not return calls.

McKeane declined to comment, while Newton could not be contacted.

SNP MEP Alyn Smith said: “Ukip in Scotland are clearly in turmoil, and the reality is that people are not buying the prejudice they are selling.”

A Ukip spokesman said: “Ukip’s candidate list for the European Elections in Scotland has not yet been announced because of a dispute within Ukip Scotland, which has seen some candidates, including the Scottish Leader Lord Monckton, at odds with others.

“Several of the candidates, including Lord Monckton, withdrew from the list in September shortly before the ballot papers were despatched. The Party’s National Executive Committee decided that it would nonetheless proceed with the ballot, which was won by David Coburn.

“The NEC has subsequently reviewed the situation and, with the withdrawn candidates declining its requests to return to the list, has resolved to move forward.

“David Coburn will be the lead candidate, supported by a full list of nationally approved candidates which will be announced shortly.”

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Predictable as this shambles is it is far from new as a quick glance at UKIP’s own returning officer’s report for a previously rigged election controlled by Farage’s grubby little clique shows CLICK HEREAlso consider the unprofessional incompetence in the London Region 2012 elections CLICK HERE
UKIP may have managed to sell a ‘man of the people’ image for its leader but if this is how ‘the man of the people’ and his people behave little wonder that in 20 years they have failed to even come realistically close to having an MP elected, they have a mere 147 Councillors elected and several have quit or been duplicitously dumped leaving around 120 I believe and as for MEPs Farage can only really claim the support of about 4 out of his original 13 elected.The party is clearly appealing to an extremist racist, anti homosexual, anti Jewish agenda despite its claims. It can not be denied that Nigel Farage’s cheeky chappy facade has strong pulling power amongst a rather unappealing sector of the electorate and he has been able to capitalise on the collapse of the BNP, dissaray of the EDL and ineptitude of the Robin Tillbrook party.Scotland is clearly not the only area in UKIP in a shambles as the briefest of Google searches will show with a full on war in the Press Office that has seen the unprincipled Gawain Towler ousted and saving face by having been given a less relevant job as a researcher in Brussels and third place in the UKIP SW Regional MEP bid for the gravy train.It would be no surprise if he found himself replaced by the scoundrel and serial failure Mark Croucher who has been proven to be only too willing to default on his debts and lie on Farage’s behalf in the past.

You may wish to investigate the debacle and bullying by UKIP in the Lincolnshire region, which shows beyond doubt UKIP’s inability to act ethically or with any decorum as clearly they are unprofessional and without any vestige of competent leadership.

This has given rise to widespread bad publicity in the media and the latest round in the chaos is exemplified by this round robin eMail:

From: Christopher Pain <chris.ukip@btinternet.com>

Subject: Save the Lincolnshire UKIP Six | Campaigns by You

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Please connect on the link below, this is an online petition to help six Lincolnshire county councillors, including myself regain our positions within the party.This will allow natural justice to be allowed and a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding it.

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I have set up a petition please sign and share

You will all have noted the dishonesty and lies of Derek Clark MEP & the fact that he was found guilty of defrauding the public purse and ordered to pay back a large sum of money by OLAF though it is unlikely he will go to prison for his offences in view of his advanced age, unlike Tom Wise MEP who was sent6enced to 2 years in prison over a similar sum of money he obtained fraudulently.You will of course have seen the exposure of the Farage cult by the disgruntled West Midlands MEP Mike Nattrass, when he failed to be selected to ride on the gravy train for UKIP again.Or Godfrey Bloom MEP who has been summarily & publicly dumped by Farage, though to be fair he still sits as a member of Farage’s extremist, racist and anti homosexual EFD Group in the EU parliament.Then we have the odious and ignorant Gerard Batten MEP who has clearly betrayed his electorate and the party to follow his personal agenda dabbling in Russian/Chechen politics (note the nationality of his staff!) and pursuing a clear policy of publishing and speaking to an agenda likely to incite racial hatred and unrest in support of his personal superstitions. All causes he is all too willing to lie to defend!

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In the midst of this debacle the cult leader is scheduled to have surgical attention to his spine as it is clearly damaged and causing notable pain CLICK HERE 

Obviously it would be all too easy to continue but perhaps you might care to read the 2.1/2 thousand postings on this web site where I have laid bare the facts with cross reference & supportive links in an effort to try to clean-up UKIP in the vain hope it can be made fit for purpose to perform its role as the natural leader of the Leave-The-EU movement – which sadly it has at this stage clearly betrayed.

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Thoughts on Robin Tilbrooks Racist EDP Cult

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/10/2013

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His Devious, Dishonourable and Hypocritical behaviour that so demeans any genuine members he may have in his following!

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Regarding his odious and dishonest posting on the site I said as follows, which includes a comment he invited but lacked the integrity to post about a week ago!Hi,

surely it is, unlike the article above, correct to define Robin Tilbrook as ‘Devious, Dishonourable and hypocritical’ in the light of the fact that he Deviously controls his comment section to ONLY reflect him in a good light by failing to publish factual comments that expose him for the racist fraud he clearly is.

Surely it is ‘Dishonourable’ to claim that Nikki Sinclaire was thrown out of UKIP when she had recently won a Court case against UKIP and had resigned from Nigel Farage’s extremist, racist, anti homosexual and anti Jewish UKIP Grouping in the pan EU political EFD Group and for having decided to sit as an independent in the EU parliament was then lied about and defamed by Malcolm Lord Pearson of R%annock and others to try to force her out of UKIP.

‘Hypocrisy’ is clearly manifest in that Robin Tilbrook not only selects comments to aggrandise his cult but is most clearly both prejudiced and a racist himself, as shown by the divisive desire to dismantle these United Kingdoms on some str5ange perception of race and English ethnicity as practiced by the lunatic fringe in Scotland via the SNP and similarly the unrealistic ludite Plaid minority in Wales.

May I remind Robin Tilbrook that it was he who invited comment on his blog, without statement of conditions and it would seem he fears fact, debate and reason – perhaps explaining why his little cult has remained just that – little and a cult, failing to make any meaningfull breakthrough in economic or political terms.

CONSIDER:
My comment, which may or may not be published on his blog, where comment is invited, is as follows:

Hi,

the EDP draws on its roots of revivifying Robin Tilbrook’s The English National Party of the 1960s.

Face the facts – many consider it extremist to actively campaign & support these United Kingdoms being broken up, be that by Nazi Germany in 1939 or the foolish self serving political antics of Palid, Mabion Kernow, EDP or SNP.

That the EDP willingly compounds this by taking on high profile ex BNP members exacerbates their problem of being seen as extremists.

Robin Tilbrook unfortunately has a track record of damaging his own fan club with rants and vitriolic attacks as we see in his own entry on Wiki:

‘However, Davies announced his resignation from the party on 5 February 2013 citing “a big influx of new members joining from the British National Party”.[10] One of its councillors, Mick Glynn, resigned the following day after the party’s chairman, Robin Tilbrook,[11] launched a personal attack on Peter Davies reducing its number of elected representatives to two.’

Yet again the mouse that roared has emerged with a vitriolic ad hominem rant when his doomed plans to embrace the shambolic and politically challenged Mike Nattrass to try to boost his chances for growth predictably failed.

How foolish to have broken confidence and published early negotiations with Sinclaire, showing his political ineptitude and untrustworthy nature – as with the broadcasting of the details of his negotiations with the foolish Mike Nattrass when he failed to capture his support.

Pray tell – in his political campaigning since the 1960s spanning 6 decades wjhat has Tilbrook achieved and what signs of leadership have presented – leadership is more than betrayal of trust and ill cobnsidered ad hominem attacks!

Perhaps if the EDP is to continue on its extremist and damaging path ity may be time to find a leader of some competence and substance!

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Debacle Over The Tartan Curtain & UKIP Racism

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/05/2013

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Hi,

although I am aware that there have been and will be claims of internet hacking by the members of UKIP, a Party undeniably linked with racism, when they are caught out in racist rants or other imature & crass behaviour.

Such claims fall into the catagory of ‘they would say that wouldn’t they‘  and thus render the claims of hacking or being misquoted all too implausible.

That UKIP’s candidates who were elected are in the main both insignificant and unheard of makes the claims yet more implausible as ‘hacking’ is a complex and skilled task and there seems every likelihood that no one of significance has been able to prove, in any way, that they have been hacked. Who exactly could be bothered hacking such irelevant individuals – frankly I incline not to believe this widespread claim of hacking!

You must draw your own conclusions but note that major national media outlets have a small army of lawyers who vet material to ensure its veracity and if there is genuine doubt they would rather spike a true story than risk facing the courts in a libel case where the courts tend to award disproportionate compensation to the ranks of nebishes bringing claims, despite the fact that their case would have required around £100,000 to be paid up front to fund front end costs in the High Courts!

Let us look first at this story below and then consider the other claims:

UKIP Councillor’ racist rants:

More of Nigel Farage’s troops exposed as bigots!

18 May 2013 20:49

bigots

A Sunday Mirror investigation has discovered sickening rants on the Facebook pages of party officials

Crackdown: Nigel Farage said the party is researching candidates' backgrounds
Crackdown: Nigel Farage said the party is researching candidates’ backgrounds
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Nigel Farage’s UKIP party is still riddled with racism… despite his claim of a crackdown.

A Sunday Mirror investigation has discovered sickening rants on the Facebook pages of party officials.

Details of their vitriol emerged only days after Eric Kitson quit as a councillor in Stourbridge, Worcs, after we exposed his internet slurs against Muslims and Jews.

Last month Farage claimed “a huge amount of time and money” had been spent researching the backgrounds of council candidates.

He said: “Our membership is up nearly 50 per cent, and inevitably we are going to have one or two teething problems.”

But today we can reveal his members’ latest hate-fuelled ­postings.

Chris Pain
Immigrants rant: Councillor Chris Pain

Ukip’s Chris Pain, leader of the opposition at Lincs Council and the party’s East Midlands regional chairman, wrote: “Have you noticed that if you ­rearrange the letters in ‘illegal ­immigrants’, and add just a few more letters, it spells, ‘Go home you free-loading, benefit-grabbing, resource-sucking, baby-making, non-English-speaking ********* and take those other hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, camel-riding, goat-********, raghead ******** with you.’”

Mr Pain has also ­objected to foreign doctors working in the NHS.

Last May he posted a story about a Hungarian medic who bungled an operation on a four-year-old boy in Manchester, and wrote: “We don’t want them taking all the jobs in the local community and we certainly don’t want them working in our hospitals!”

Peter Entwistle, party chairman in Bury, Greater Manchester, labelled President Barack Obama a Muslim, writing: “I bet he’s a closet ‘Imam’ as well!

“If I ever see him on a Greyhound bus wearing a rucksack, I’m getting off!!”

Peter Entwistle
Barack barracking: Peter Entwistle said Obama is a Muslim

The party’s deputy chairman in Scotland, Misty Thackeray, “liked” a Facebook group claiming “paedophilia is part of Islamic tradition”.

He also praised far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders, a self-­confessed “hater of Islam”.

Recommending Mr Wilders’ new book, he said: “Geert is great …(peace be upon him.. lol) ..!”

Meanwhile Tiggs Keywood-­Wainwright, a Ukip councillor in Boston, Lincs, complained about mosques being built in “quintessentially English” Cambridge. “Is nowhere sacred for the Brits in Britain any more?” she wrote.

“Bottom line is we have too many muslims in this country!”

Mr Pain said the comments on his Facebook pages were “not my original posts or writings”, claiming his ­account had been hacked.

Mr Entwistle laughed when confronted about his President Obama bus comments, saying: “I don’t think I’d be the only one getting off.”

Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright
“Too many Muslims”: Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright
Sunday Mirror

Mr Thackeray refused to comment on “this ridiculous nonsense”. He said Mr Wilders was a “legally, democratically-elected politician”.

Ms Keywood-Wainwright admitted she “probably” regretted some of her remarks.

She claimed she meant there were too many Muslims “in certain areas”, adding: “My GPs are all Muslims and I have no ­problem with them at all.

“One of them is extremely nice and very, very good at her job.”

Farage described demonstrators who besieged him in Edinburgh on Thursday as “fascist scum”.

He also slammed the phone down on a BBC interviewer questioning him about Scots issues.

 

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That Nigel Farage found himself the4 victim of some of the abusive low life inadequates that seem all too prevalent in Scotland comes as no surprise to me having personally been dishonestly and corruptly abused in efforts to defame the facts I have published by some of the all too similar scum such as Matt Quinn, George McKendrick and a host of other vile Scottish ne’er do wells and failed personalities with their inadequacies writ large in bile in the manner they bear chips on both shoulders! Just look on the internet and you will find their cyber bullying and dishonest abuse all to readily!

That Nigel Farage played right into the hand of these cowardly parasites is indisputable with the overt racism, anti homosexuality, xenophobia and misogyny of the partners he chose for UKIP as its allies in The EU and increasingly it seems he chose as candidates within his own party as shown by the recent resignations amongst his all too small group of recently elected Councillors (a mere 147 out of the 1,700+ which he fielded!). None in Scotland you may note!

Consider the claims of being misquoted by Anne-Marie Crampton on this blog, when recently she claimed the media deliberately lied about her CLICK HERE

OR consider the following entry from another blogger:

RACIST TWEETS FROM UKIP CANDIDATE RON NORTHCOTT

Scots have been accused of being racist and fascist by Nigel Farage. 
 
Does he know the meaning of the words? Does his colleague Mr Northcott?
 
What does Farage think of the tweets shown above (click to enlarge) from Mr Northcott?
 
Farage accused Thursday’s small crowd, some estimates said 20 people (Nigel had it at 50), of being anti-English because they told him they didn’t want to see the union jack in Scotland again. 
 
Does he know what the flag of England is? 
 
Did he know that one of the organisers of the protest is English?
 
Nigel was launching his party’s bid to take the by election seat in Donside.
 
Does he have any idea how far away from Edinburgh Donside is? (AsBella Caledonia said, can you imagine him launching an election bid for Leeds from  Birmingham?)
Farage and Thatcher. She’s the one ON the mug
 
Farage was outraged that in a democracy he wasn’t even allowed to make his point before being shouted down. I’d concede him a point there. We should have let him tell us what his policies were: policies like repatriating powers to Westminster, getting rid of women’s and gay rights, abolishing our fairer system of elections, adopting English policies on education (£9,000 a year) and health (selling off the health service) and public services, before we told him we didn’t want any of it. 
 
But Farage wasn’t so keen to make his point when he was asked, politely, about his party’s dismal showings in Scotland. BBC Scotland’s telephone interview was relatively easy going compared with what SNP ministers have to handle. There were no hard hitting questions on some of the dodgier UKIP members, who earned the party the reputation for being clowns; no questions about Farage and his mates in Brussels and Strasbourg allegedly missing vital committee meetings where British fishing interests were in question, because they were allegedly drunk. (Interesting that Northcott above seemed to find it strange that a “jock” would be sober enough to string a sentence together. 
This is Mr Northcott. The one with the red nose
 
In his answers he conflated anti UK sentiments with anti English sentiments. And complained that he had been surrounded by people who wanted to take Scotland out of the UK. How on earth can he criticise an independence movement when his own party’s name is the UK INDEPENDENCE Party.
 
But for all that, given his chance to put his point, he put down the phone in the huff because he sensed hatred.  Jeez, the man needs to get out more.
 
Can you imagine how Alex Salmond would have dealt with that?
To view the original article CLICK HERE albeit an openly stated and obviously partisan commentator!

Clearly FaceBook particularly is an irresponsible host of ‘social media’ and its lack of discernment is self evident from the clear fact that any Tom, Dick, Harry or McTavish who is listed as a follower is glibly described as a friend and all too often Scots seem grossly ill informed of their own history but all too well versed in its mythology believing there is more than a shred of truth in ‘Brave Heart’ a work of pure fiction based on fantasy which puts butts on seats in cinemas!

I well remeber some years ago when Nigel Farage stations one of hs very scarce intelligent staff in Scotland for an election where sshe (Heather Conyngham) was tasked with finding out how politics in Scotland functioned and recruiting candidates to exploit it with her guidance and a very meagre purse! UKIP knew little of politics then and seemingly have forgotten most of what they may have know since!

There is no one of notable abil;ity in UKIP’s team in Scotland bar some fool of a pretend member of The House of Lords and perhaps one could count Malcolm Lord Pearson of Rannoch who not only proved utterly inept as Nigel Farage’s pupopet leaderr during the ‘Berkow’ debacle where Farage did so badlt but also Pearson was exposed as both disloyal and a liar!

Then of course there is the ex army Corporal who takes center stage to make UKIP Scotland a figure of farce with his idiotic misrepresentation of law as a so called ‘freeman of the Land’ of which there is no such legal entity and as a gullible gutter scraper with his utterly corrupt claims of veracity in the fantasies of Anne Greig & Robert Green regarding the febrile tissue of lies they have built around the sad figure of Hollie Greig (for facts and details CLICK HERE) – actions by which he clearly brings UKIP into disrepute on both sides of the Tartan Curtain!

With so little understanding of Scotland and its politics, much of which is based on Scotland’s own fantasy history and a warped understanding of both politics and international commerce; which has driven a bitter wedge of folly and hatred based on envy between Scotland and her allies Farage stood little chance of coming out of his recent misguided foray North unscathed.

I write as one who has both lived and worked in Scotland, where my parental home for over 20 years was Wester Ross!

In future Nigel Farage may care to consider the backdrop to his activities before parading his enactment of a Tory Boy and City slicker on behalf of UKIP north of The Tartan Curtain!
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“Farage’s politics lack credibility”

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“Farage’s politics lack credibility”!

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clearly having consistently failed in domestic politics in these United Kingdoms for some 20 years, with less than 30 people elected to any office of consequence in British politics, where some 19,500 seats are available by election – it ill becomes Nigel Farage to posture and preen in Scotland where during those 20 years UKIP have made virtually no progress:

Interview: meet Nigel Farage

 
Thursday 21 February 2013

UK Political Editor MICHAEL SETTLE meets the UKIP leader who’s never short of an opinion or two for an in-depth interview on Europe, immigration, and the independence referendum

 

It is an irony piled on top of another irony that Nigel Farage’s London office sits uncomfortably in Europe House, the headquarters of the European Commission which, in a previous guise, was the home to Conservative Central Office.

When I mention this, the UKIP leader points out that the Commission’s London postcode even has the letters EU in it. “I’m not kidding,” declares Mr Farage, his eyes rolling in disbelief.

Yet while he might be a political cuckoo in the EU nest, the ebullient politician appears to be sitting pretty.

Never in such media demand, UKIP’s fortunes – in England, at least – are on the rise. Opinion polls have put the anti-EU party as high as 16%, while in a raft of by-elections last year it came second or third, replacing the Liberal Democrats as many voters’ party of protest.

“Yeah, to have grown over the last couple of years in the opinion polls the way we have has been very gratifying but we have to prove that that’s material and not theoretic. That’s why the county elections (this year in England) are very important and the euro elections (next year across the UK) are crucial to the whole momentum thing.”

Yet while momentum has been building south of the border, UKIP has barely caused a ripple in the Scottish political pool.

At the last euro election in 2009, it came sixth behind the Greens and polled under 5% and in the 2011 Holyrood elections, when UKIP proposed scrapping MSPs and replacing them at Holyrood with Westminster MPs, it did even worse and got less than 1%.

“Yeah, I have said Scotland has been a graveyard for us and that’s because the entire national debate in Scotland has been a different debate and the word ‘independence’ has meant something entirely false and that’s why I’m so pleased it’s been exposed and we can now have a proper debate in Scotland about far bigger constitutional issues than the relationship between Holyrood and Westminster; far bigger than that is the relationship of both those institutions with Brussels and that’s all changed.

“What’s been very interesting over the last few months is that as UKIP has grown in the polls we’ve grown in Scotland too.”

Like many others perhaps, I missed this development and ask what evidence Mr Farage has for this.

“Look at the regional breakdowns; look at YouGov, Comres, Survation, look at all of them. They vary and they fluctuate but we’ve been as high as 9% of the vote in Scotland. Given where we came from two years ago, it’s a significant shift, a potential shift in support for UKIP in Scotland.

“I’m not pretending it’s easy. We’ve managed in Wales, we got 15% in Wales, very credible, almost in line with our national percentage. We’ve had some little bits of electoral success in Northern Ireland. Clearly, the north of England has developed into almost as much as a powerhouse than the south of England for UKIP.

“The idea that perhaps people might have had 10 years ago that this is a sort of home-counties-retired half-colonels-who-were-jolly-angry (party), clearly that’s changed already.

“The missing part of the jigsaw within the UK has been Scotland and that’s because the debate hasn’t allowed us in; there’s been a different conversation going on.”

He goes on: “I never, ever make rash or stupid predictions, I just don’t – maybe comment and statements – and we are going to do everything we can in 2014 in the European elections in Scotland to get a breakthrough and to get elected representation in Scottish politics.

“We have proved in England that even with a small bridgehead, if your position is a good intellectual position, that is clearly arguable and events prove you right, you can build from a small bridge head into something that is quite significant in politics. I would say for UKIP in Scotland the 2014 European elections are the absolutely key.”

The UKIP leader makes clear that if the party is to become any sort of political force in Scotland, then it has to succeed in the 2014 euro elections.

“So I’m putting it on the line. For UKIP Scotland, who have been a relatively small organisation and who have valiantly battled on, who in the last year and a bit have suddenly started to grow and attract some fresh talent, our campaign on wind farms and various things is suddenly bringing in new and different type people.

“But there has to be some realisable gain to keep any sense of momentum and any positivity within the party going forward; 2014 is the watershed for UKIP Scotland.”

Unlike most politicians, who pause and nuance their remarks, trying to avoid controversy at any price, Mr Farage shoots from the hip and seems to revel in his forthrightness, laughing his tobacco-flavoured croaky laugh many times throughout the interview.

Yet the only time he hesitates and goes quiet is when I ask if 2014 – when pundits believe UKIP will attract the largest number of votes – could be a moment when British politics is realigned.

“I’ve wondered and thought about this for years…It’s such a tough question to answer but I would just say this – some of the top line issues that are most closely and clearly associated with UKIP are of such enormous power as political issues across the political spectrum; the Thatcherite right will agree with them but very big sections of patriotic Old Labour feel the same on these questions too, that there is the possibility that we could do what the Reform Party of Canada did and do something dramatic and remarkable.”

So it could be a mould-breaking SDP moment?

“Oh no, they got Blair. Blair was the first SDP Prime Minister. In fact, they’re all bloody SDP. Cameron’s SDP. The SDP achieved a total victory without actually winning themselves. This can manifest itself in lots of ways. In the case of the Reform party in Canada, they became the biggest party in the Canadian Parliament. So this can manifest itself in all sorts of different ways.”

So is it possible UKIP could realign British politics?

“Again, as I said earlier, I don’t make wild and silly predictions but I do think there is something very powerful in our headline issues.”

One of which is immigration. The latest controversy that has flared up is about what might or might not happen from January 2014 – just four months before those euro elections – when the work restrictions on Bulgaria and Romania will be lifted.

The UK Government, having admitted to having its own estimate about a possible influx of migrants, then said it did not have one; the estimate in 2004 when Poland and other eastern European countries joined the EU turned out to be wildly inaccurate.

“They’re in a mess,” declares Mr Farage. “They’re really scared because for years it was easy: Europe was over there, that was for intellectuals like Bill Cash and the Oxford Union; and immigration was over there and an entirely separate issue. Now in the minds of the public, they’re coming together as one and the same and they’re absolutely terrified of it.

“Every estimate that has been put out over the last 10 years on this, be it by the British Government, be it by the Romanian embassy, be it by whoever you like, has always been wrong by a factor of five or by a factor of 10 or whatever it may be. They’re half hoping it will go away.”

The UKIP leader produces a piece of paper and insists the declaration at the weekend by Coalition ministers that they can get tough with EU migrants wishing to take advantage of Britain’s benefits system is pie in the sky.

“Cameron says any Romanian who comes and has appendicitis will die on the street and we’ll all stand around and laugh. Within five hours of him saying it, Viviane Reding, the relevant European Commissioner, comes back and says sorry these are treaty commitments and she’s right.”

He refers to the habitual residency test where a migrant has to prove he or she is a job seeker, a worker, a student, a self-employed person or a self-sufficient person to qualify for welfare.

“Apart from pensioners, no one is excluded. What will not happen is Romanian pensioners will not be able to come and get old age pensions, that’s clear. That’s the one group of Romanians who will find access to direct benefit more difficult but absolutely everbody else that I can see can pass habitual residence. It’s possible that they could under the law be made to wait three months. I completely concede it’s possible.

“But if you come in and say I’m self-employed and I’m going to go and apply to be a Big Issue seller, you are by definition a self-employed person seeking work and you qualify on day one and not just for unemployment benefit but for housing benefit as well.

“There’s nothing this mob can do about this because they have signed us up to be in a political union with countries who frankly…Bulgaria and Romania are not fit to be in a political union with us. I’m not stating that political point of view from arrogance or anything like that. I can fully accept we could be in a political union with France and Germany – I don’t want us to be – but I can see why in many ways that might be a valid proposition on the table but with these former Communist east European states, countries who have not recovered..”.

So talk of a crackdown by Iain Duncan Smith was just spin?

“The improbability of what’s being said…is laughable. He was trying to stop people voting UKIP in the Eastleigh by-election. They’re terrified. It’s the biggest issue on the doorstep. I tell you why. When the Government said up to 15,000 a year from eastern Europe (would come), there are more than that in Southampton, and Eastleigh is a suburb of that. People down there are seeing social housing, a chronic problem in Eastleigh, and unskilled labourers getting jobs, just a nightmare.”

Europe, of course, or rather getting Britain out of the EU, is UKIP’s raison d’etre. When I suggest David Cameron with his promise of an in-out referendum had shot his party’s fox, the Farage eyes bulge.

“If he wins the next election, no chance; following a renegotiation, not on offer; he will give us a referendum, heard it all before; cast iron Dave, why on earth would we believe him this time round and even if he means it, we have reached the point of ‘cry wolf’, nobody else believes him. The body language, the tone, everything about that speech dripped with insincerity from start to finish.”

But it was a success politically because the putative rebellion by Conservative MPs has fizzled away, I suggest.

“They’re tribal Tories, who gives a damn about them? Forget that building over there, let’s talk about the housing estate a mile down the road, what’s the impact been three weeks on? Zero.

“Far from shooting our fox what he has done inadvertently is to legitimise everything we have said for 20 years by putting it into the mainstream national debate; that there should be a conversation on in or out and, secondly, unwittingly and without wanting to he has let the genie out of the bottle.

“Rather like with the euro once we had a public debate on the euro public opinion swung against it. It was 50-50 in the 1990s, absolutely 50-50, people like me were thinking God almighty, they’re selling us easier holidays in Spain, and maybe they’re going to carry the day. But when we had the full debate after Blair, Heseltine and Clarke launched the Britain in Europe initiative, within 18 months we had a two-to-one majority against joining the euro and it’s never changed since.

“The same is true of the bigger broader European debate, the genie is now out of the bottle, this can’t be suppressed, there is going to be a debate on all four corners of the United Kingdom over the next year or two, or over the next five years, on this issue and that from my perspective is all to the good.”

So, I suggest, that must lead to the referendum Mr Farage believes Mr Cameron, despite his promise, will not deliver.

“If UKIP closed down tomorrow, there would be no referendum ever. We could be here in 100 years. His backbenchers pose no threat to him at all. There isn’t a single Tory backbencher who has said they would vote against their prime minister in a motion of confidence, not one. If we disappear, the referendum threat goes; if we stay, the referendum threat will be maintained. I very much believe that one of UKIP’s very important jobs is to make sure that Labour make the same promise too – and they will.”

Yet he acknowledges that the PM’s speech was necessary to stop Tory MPs joining UKIP. “Had he not made that speech there would have been defections; yes, of course.”

It is when I mention Europe in the context of the Scottish independence debate that I realise I have lit the blue touch paper. The development this week with Nicola Sturgeon insisting an independent Scotland would not need to sign a full accession treaty but simply amend the current one visibly ruffles the Farage forehead.

“There’s nothing she has said on television that has impressed me. Frankly, she appears to be grossly out of her depth in the position she is in. Just for once, I’m going to go with Mr Barroso and not Nicola Sturgeon.”

He continues: “At least Irish nationalism is a pure, honest form of nationalism. Scottish nationalism, which has been a fraud committed on the Scottish electorate for the last few decades, has finally been exposed as nothing more than what has now become its own political class, seeking to justify its own existence. There is complete intellectual and economic dishonesty in the SNP’s arguments and I frankly have got no time for them at all, or her.”

Mr Farage, who has previously acknowledged a sneaking respect for Alex Salmond – who has passed his ‘would I have a pint with this person’ test – says the First Minister played a good hand on independence “up until he was exposed”.

He explains: “For a couple of decades, he played the hand incredibly well. He sold a completely false argument to the Scots, that you could leave Westminster and be independent and, in a little after-breath, be part of the EU.

“Gradually as time has gone on, it has become clearer and clearer to people in Scotland that being in the EU is completely inconsistent with the concept of independence and what sealed it is the European Commission President making clear that if you left the UK you have to reapply and sign a treaty that commits you to joining the euro.

“So that’s what’s changed everything and frankly the sheer dishonesty, the twists and turns, and the hiding of the report and all the things the SNP have done, they’re doing themselves electorally huge damage.”

So where does this leave the SNP’s campaign for independence?

“It’s finished already. I don’t think the SNP proposal of Scottish independence as part of the EU flies, works, is logical; it’s done, it’s dead in the water. Far too many canny Scots have worked that out.

“If the SNP is able to reposition itself between now and the referendum, we can have this conversation again, but at the minute they appear to be in such a muddle and backtracking on everything, from the currency to the sovereign to…some idea this could be a treaty amendment, no, the irrationality of their position has been exposed.”

I ask if he will, given his forthright pro-UK views, be an asset to the No campaign? He replies he will not be part of it.

“That’s for Scottish UKIP to get involved in, it’s not for me to get involved in. If I’m asked to speak in a university debate, I probably would. Am I going to be touring round Scotland in a referendum campaign on Scottish independence? No. UKIP Scotland can do that. I don’t see that as my role particularly.”

Yet UKIP is regarded as the Nigel Farage Party?

“Look, I have given, in so many ways, maybe illogically, the best years of my adult life in trying to make this point of view and this political brand an accepted, mainstream, genuine part of national British political debate.

“I’ve no idea why I’ve done it. I can’t explain it. It didn’t fit into my life plan at all. I’ve just done it and I’ve probably got more drive, more energy and more belief than most people who walk through the front door.

“But I couldn’t have done it on my own. I couldn’t have done it without thousands of activists and lots of people…There is a team of people behind Nigel that help to make this work now and without whom it couldn’t have worked.”

A politician referring to themselves in the third person is always interesting but, given the party’s rising star, is he regretting not standing in Eastleigh?

“No. If Diane James does win, you boys will not go on saying we’re a one-man party; that’ll be ended. That blows a hole in that.

“It’s my stated aim that I intend to lead this party as an active candidate into the European elections in 2014 and I want to cause an earthquake. I can’t do that as a backbencher in the House of Commons.

“If we’re going to get the momentum for something remarkable to happen in 2015, it can’t happen without a big success in 2014 and right now at this moment in time, it could change, I’m the best qualified person in UKIP to lead that charge in 2014.”

Soon, UKIP will be moving out of Europe House and into spanking new offices off Bond Street; the party’s fortunes, it seems, are moving upmarket.

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Friday 22 February 2013

I read, with a sense of incredulity, Nigel Farage’s seemingly scathing attack upon the Scottish Government and the independence referendum (“Farage: Independence dead in the water”, The Herald, February 21).

One may go as far as to assert that at times Mr Farage’s tone was a trifle arrogant. It is surely inconceivable for one to take any credence from what the man has said in the article, when he and his party currently have no seats in Westminster or Holyrood and the rise of Ukip remains to be seen. Undoubtedly, Mr Farage would justify his assertions by highlighting that recent opinion polls may have tended to illustrate a slight support for Ukip in some parts of England and a small proportion in Scotland, in light of the current Coalition and the contentious issue of membership of the European Union.

It is easy for Mr Farage to pour scorn upon the Scottish Government (indeed the UK Government for that matter) as the United Kingdom has, thus far, no experience of his Ukip party as a source of accountable authority.

It will be extremely captivating to observe if Mr Farage’s aspirations amount to what he desires regarding his share of the electorate (especially in Scotland) and how he would put that into practice over a raft of issues, other than the aforementioned issue of severing membership of the EU.

At this stage I don’t envisage anywhere near the sort of landslide victory the SNP enjoyed in the 2011 Holyrood election, or Labour enjoyed in the 1997 General Election, unless something goes drastically wrong with the four main parties in Scotland.

John G McMenemy,

Braeside Avenue,

Milngavie.

I welcome Nigel Farage’s intervention in the independence debate; with friends like him, the No campaign certainly needs no enemies. His remarks, especially about the Deputy First Minister, seem to be based on nothing more than ignorance and prejudice.

Are bluster and assertion really all that is on offer from the opponents of Scottish independence? Where is the much-trumpeted “positive case for the Union”?

The almost daily predictions of impending disaster that would follow a Yes vote from the mainstream UK parties are bad enough, with Mr Farage and Ukip, however, the dissembling and bombast are even more transparent.

If I were a showman I’d say, “Nice try, Nigel, but no coconut!”

David C Purdie,

12 Mayburn Vale,

Loanhead, Midlothian.

It was disappointing to note personal attacks on Nicola Sturgeon by Ukip’s Nigel Farage, a clear act of desperation that has lowered the tone of the independence debate.

Mr Farage’s optimism in putting up Ukip candidates at the next European and Parliamentary elections in Scotland is totally misplaced.

At every election he pledges this will mark a breakthrough for his party in Scotland, but it never transpires.

At the last European Parliamentary elections in 2009 Ukip came second in the UK, securing just under 17% of the vote and securing 13 MEPs.

In Scotland, however, it came behind the Greens in sixth place with just over 5% of the vote. At the last Scottish Parliamentary election in 2011 Ukip achieved less than 1% of the vote.

While this Little Englander party has had success south of the Border, where the majority want the UK to leave the EU, in Scotland this position is reversed with the majority wanting to remain within the largest single market in the world.

Ukip in England has forced Mr Cameron into an in-out referendum on UK membership of the EU, but its isolationist agenda has only ever seen it inhabit the fringes of Scottish politics, where it is destined to remain.

Alex Orr,

77 Leamington Terrace,

Edinburgh.

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Clearly some have swallowed Nigel Farage’s duplicitous claims as with Alex Orr above who believes Nigel Farage’s party had something to do with Cameron’s fudged and untrustworthy offer of a Referendum. Neither Nigel Farage nor his rump of a party with no elected individuals of any note, character or gravitas and out of a total of over 19,500 electable offices in UK Governance with less than 30 elected to any office of consequence after 20 years.

It may be of interest to those who have swallowed his propaganda that Nigel Farage had not even signed the UK wide petition in favour of a Referendum devised, organised, collected and delivered by Nikki Sinclaire’s Team that has delivered over 1/4 Million valid and verified signatures to Downing Street and Parliament at Westminster, that forced the debate in Parliament that gave rise to David Cameron’s second guarded promise of a Referendum.

I do concede that Nigel Farage and his clique and their vociferous claque did much to try to sabotage the efforts and assist The EU!

I am also happy to concede that in a shameful example of ‘Band Wagon Jumping’, so true to style, Nigel Farage grudgingly signed the petition AFTER the event!

May I also remind readers and researchers that under the aegis of Nigel Farage, David Lott & Mark Croucher over £1/4M was raised to mount a petition but no such petition was ever presented nor any mechanism set up for its presentation, nor was any accounting of the money raised ever presented and many are of the belief that Nigel; Farage, Davbid Lott & Mark Croucher stole the money for their own benefit!

Clearly, with his ambivalence, posturing and irrelevance in Scotland Nigel Farage and his party have done much to alienate Scottish voter, hence the risible results they have consistently had in Scotland (or for that matter in any area of UK Domestic politics!)

Per exempio:

Ukip warns Scots: ‘don’t expect British cash’

Tom Gordon
Scottish Political Editor
Sunday 23 December 2012

THE leader of the UK Independence Party (Ukip) has warned Alex Salmond he would be “naive in the extreme” to assume the rest of the UK would simply wave through a generous exit package for Scotland in the event of a Yes vote in 2014.

Nigel Farage MEP, whose fiery Euroscepticism has helped his party overtake the Liberal Democrats in recent polls, said the people of England, Wales and Northern Ireland would not want to hand over a “fat cheque” if Scotland chose to quit the UK.

He told the Sunday Herald he had no issue with Scotland deciding its own destiny, but that this was not the same as granting the First Minister’s every wish in negotiations with Westminster.

If there was a Yes vote, talks between Edinburgh and London – including those on how to divide the UK’s assets and the national debt – would start during the 2015 General Election campaign. If Ukip pushed for the rest of the UK to get the best deal possible for its citizens it would upset Salmond’s hopes of a smooth transition, and might mean David Cameron taking a similar hard line for fear of losing more Tory voters to Ukip.

Farage said: “It seems to me a remarkably naive approach for the SNP to think a post-independence rump government of the UK would just say ‘Tally ho chaps, here’s a big cheque’.

“It may be that people like Mr Cameron, Mr Miliband and Mr Clegg would like that to happen.

“But can you imagine the reaction from the English electorate? It would show yet again how out of touch they are in the political class.

“There would be an enormous political reaction, and not just in the Tory shires, but across the country. If they think gay marriage is an issue, it will pale into insignificance compared to that.

“While the political class might want to pat Alex Salmond on the back, there’s absolutely no way that the people of Wales, England and Northern Ireland would be happy with that – of course they wouldn’t.

“And to think that they might just ignore it is daft. It’s naive in the extreme.”

Although a Little Englander approach would finish Ukip in Scotland, no party with UK in its name was ever likely to be particularly active in Scotland after a Yes vote.

The SNP described Farage’s comments as “bizarre”.

A spokesman said: “Scotland already more than pays its own way, and on independence will inherit its share of the assets and liabilities of the UK.

“Ukip has repeatedly failed to make any impression in Scottish politics, which is no surprise given Mr Farage seems so out of touch.”

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Hi,

the posting below is one I placed earlier on a Conservative Forum, you may find it of interest:

Hi,

A Royal Commission to report 3 months before The General Election based on Cost Benefits of continued membership of The EU and provision of a fully documented Exit & Survival Strategy becomes essential for a free, fair and informed IN/OUT Referendum with no cunning codicils, no intervention from The EU or its staff (probably includes the entire Civil Service nowadays!) and equal funding and media time for both sides.

Then, unlike the utterly rigged devolution scam in Wales, open counting of the vote!

If Scotland is considered acceptable to hold a Referendum –
Then:
‘We-Demand-A-Referendum’
‘Let-The-People-Decide’
it is after all OUR Country and our elected servants should remember their place and their oft claimed mantra:
They Work For You
which at the moment looks somewhat shaky.

To date no one has EVER shown a benefit of consequence for Britain or our peoples in membership of The EU, that is not hugely outweighed by:

the loss of liberty,

the negation of democracy,

the centralisation of control,

the overpaying of the useless who gain access to the pot of OUR money IF they support the scam,

the justification of the £Billions spent on propaganda to tell us how good The EU is etc. etc.

Let us not forget also the downside risks and the obscene and unaccounted £50Million a day membership tax.

I appreciate that those feeding at the troughs, inside the bubble, do incredibly well for themselves, and thus have great motivation to try to block and if need be rig a referendum.

There is absolutely zero intelligent reason for continuing to prop up The EU, an experiment which on almost every count has failed to deliver, and particularly for these United Kingdoms.

Do not forget that Europe WAS:


38% of world GDP,


by 2010 The EU’s share had fallen to 24%

& by 2020 it is expected to be 15% or less!

The EU scam has failed!


Why shackle ourselves to a corpse?


We Want A Referendum


Let The People Decide


– Leave-The-EU!

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Thomas Hauschildt 1p · 53 minutes ago

good, then leave. Do you think anyone in the EU cares, do you think you can blackmail the EU? Look what happened a few months ago; The UK was simply ignored and the EU moved on. The UK is searching for a new identity. The Empire gone, the “special relationship” with the US is only special for the UK, not the US. Germany and France are the major players in Europe, the UK could join them, but doesn’t want to. The UK will be (or is already) a third rate power, behind France and Germany. The French redefined their role, the UK hasn’t. In less than twenty years many economies will have overtaken the UK, the UK will be just another country, great times are over. You wanna leave, then leave. It will damage the UK more than the EU>

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Hi,

don’t be so timorous and aggressive.

The aim is NOT to damage The EU – merely to Leave-The-EU which has failed, irrefutably, to deliver any consequential benefit for these United Kingdoms at a cost, currently, of £50Million a day in hard cash and massive damage by over regulation, excessive controls and starving us of access to our natural global markets where our trade has grown in the last few years as our trade with EU countries has become ever more negative.

Of course The EU won’t cut us off – they are bound by The WTO agreements.

Also do be minded that our trade with the EU is a nett profit to them and a nett loss to us!

It can clearly be argued that we will be Better-Off-OUT even were that to mean we ceased trading with the EU entirely, which clearly would not happen.

It is time to implement Article 50, institute a Royal Commission, foreswear the signing of ANY new agreements until AFTER the Royal Commission reports with a full cost benefit analysis and clear Exit & Survival Strategy and a free, fair, informed and balanced Referendum on IN/OUT.

Let-The-People-Decide.

This is a situation where the Government can take the lead and the 220,000 signatures obtained by the independent MEP Nikki Sinclaire & her team, backed by various polls has shown the people want a referendum in a spirit of integrity and fair play.

That the Franco German Allience under ‘The Treaty of Elysee’ makes a mockery of the entire EU concept is worthy of note as TH has reminded us they have seized the power and control The EU.

It is something of a relief that Germany did Cameron’s job for him and blocked The BAE merger with EADS or yet another British mega corp would have been crushed into the Fraco German portfolio similarly the collapse of the RBS sell out to Santander has retained that business.

Now Leave-The-EU and lets start repatriating and reconstructing our democracy, justice, civil service, police, military, economy, businesses etc. etc. in a spirit of self control and in line with the fundamental human right of self determination ‘Let The People Decide’.

Shock horror we could consider revivvifying The Anglosphere and we could draw up our own international treaties and contracts – even with individual vassal states of The EU!

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