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Many Believe Farage Is Damaging BreXit – Look At Ukip’s Damage In Scotland

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/04/2016

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many believe that Nigel Farage’s support for BreXit is in the main a kiss of death to the Leave-The_EU Campaign, with his undeniably racist immage as he centers his efforts on inciting racial hatred aimed at immigrants – he is in the position that on certain issues a mild whisper from him becomes a violent shout amongst his fan club in Ukip, a position of responsibility he has never failed to abuse for his own glory and enrichment!

Cash and immigrants are as insignificant to most who might have voted to Leave-The-EU as his other two mantras revolving around drink and smoking as he promotes his libertine life style as some sort of role model for the weak and gullible.

If you thought Nigel Farage & Ukip’s actions were damaging to the Leave-The-EU cause they are nothing to the well publicised and bitter squabbling in Ukip especially north of the border where Farage’s henchman the loud mothed bufoon and Ukip MEP David Cameron is dragging the Leave Campaign into the ill informed, bullying and boorish gutter he seems so at home in!

Scottish ‘Vote Leave’ launch descends into farce as Ukip roll up


Scottish ‘Vote Leave’ launch descends into farce as Ukip roll up

Tom Gordon, Scottish Political Editor

THE launch of the official EU Out campaign in Scotland descended into farce yesterday, after the organisers turned away Scotland’s only Ukip MEP for trying to speak uninvited.

The Vote Leave campaign refused entry to David Coburn after he pitched up at the Grand Central Hotel in Glasgow and threw a strop when he was told he couldn’t take part. One witness said Coburn had been “furious” at the snub.

However, the Remain or In side also had its problems on the first weekend of the EU campaign, after former Tory chancellor Kenneth Clarke said David Cameron “wouldn’t last 30 seconds if he lost the referendum”.

Despite the Prime Minister telling MPs last week that he would stay to negotiate the terms of the UK’s withdrawal if there was a Brexit vote, Clarke said that scenario was “just farcical”.

“We’d be plunged into a Conservative leadership crisis, which is never very edifying,” he said, adding the Tory party would have a “devil of a job” to come together again, however the vote goes on June 23.

London Mayor Boris Johnson attacked Cameron for “shamefully” spending £9.3m of public money on a pro-EU leaflet for every UK household, saying the 14-page document was “not sufficiently absorbent for the purposes” to which some people might like to put it.

Johnson, also criticised Barack Obama for “hypocrisy” ahead of his visit to the UK this week, when he is expected to support Cameron’s call to stay in the EU.

He said the US President had a “perfect right” to comment, but added it was “absolutely bizarre that we are being lectured by the Americans about giving up our sovereignty” when they “would never dream” of sharing theirs with the EU or anyone else.

Speaking in Washington, Chancellor George Osborne said it was the “overwhelming view” of foreign governments and international bodies like the IMF and Nato that the UK should stay in the EU, and warned Brexit could mean higher mortgage rates.

In Glasgow, Scottish Vote Leave director Tom Harris said Coburn had “invited himself to be one of the speakers” at its launch, and threatened to be disruptive when he was refused.

Harris said: “If he wants to get involved in the campaign, I am happy to discuss that with him. But I am not going to be pressurised into giving him a speaker spot at the last minute.”

Coburn said he had gone “to wish them well and offer my shoulder to the ecumenical wheel as the established lead voice and only Pro-Brexit elected representative in Scotland. I did then offer to speak at the event, as I thought having someone the Scots had actually elected speaking would help rebalance the event. My offer was declined.”

At the event, Harris claimed pro-Brexit SNP, Labour and Tory candidates in May’s Holyrood election feared speaking out on Europe because they were being “gagged” by their parties.

He said: “A lot of them just don’t want to rock the boat and draw attention to themselves. I know there are candidates standing for the Scottish Parliament who feel as I do, that we should be leaving the EU on June 23. But they are inhibited by their own party’s [Remain] line on the EU, and don’t want to say anything publicly at least until May 5, and possibly not even after that. That is fundamentally undemocratic.

“It is absolutely essential that we have the opportunity to grill our candidates and get an honest answer from them on whether or not they will actually vote themselves to leave or remain. It is not enough to say it is a separate election from the referendum.”
Also speaking, Tory Northern Ireland Secretary Theresa Villiers said the EU was “unreformable” and primarily a political project to create a “country called Europe”.

Villiers said Britain joined in 1973 in an “admission of defeat” that the country was facing “chronic decline”, but it was now time for “self-governing democracy” to return.

“I fundamentally believe we are better off, safer, more secure, more prosperous if this country is outside the EU,” she said, claiming Brexit could mean better export deals on whisky.

The Out campaign’s efforts coincided with the SNPs’ two MEPs launching the ‘The Wee Bleu Book’, a voter-friendly guide to the EU and the the case for staying in it.

The 64-page tract is available free from the scotlandineuope.eu website. There is also an initial print run of 2000 hard copies. Authors Alyn Smith and Ian Hudghton said they wanted the book to become the go-to resource for the EU referendum.

Smith said: “My focus, obviously, is the Holyrood election but as I’ve been travelling the country there is no denying that EU stuff is being talked about, so this website is available to all as a resource to get the real facts out there.

“There’s a lot of nonsense spoken about the EU, and it’s important not to be distracted from the fact that EU membership is entirely in our best interests and the SNP is enthusiastically backing a Remain vote for the right reasons.

“While it has been produced for SNP activists, I hope the book reaches wider. At least on paper, Scottish politics is broadly united that our best interests are remaining in the EU so while every party will be doing their own thing, if anyone wants to use this I’m delighted.”

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With an avg. 1.2M voters per MEP & Britain having only 8%, if united, say. The EUropean Parliament has no ability to make policy and has a Commission of unelected bureaucrats, thus clearly the EU is not even a pretence of being a democracy; yet The EU & many of its vassal States are willing to slaughter people in Sovereign States to impose The EU’s chosen brand of democracy on them!

The imposition of a Government and policies upon its vassal regions such as the peoples of Greece shows just how far from being a democracy the EU is.

There will be little or no change in Britain’s economic position, when we leave the EU, using a better negotiated & updated version of the ‘Norway Model’ as a stepping stone to becoming a full member of the Eropean Economic Area, where all will benefit, as we secure trade relations with the EU’s vassal regions, with an EFTA style status and can trade and negotiate independently on the global stage, as members of The Commonwealth and the Anglosphere.

One huge benefit will be that we can negotiate with bodies like the WTO, UN, WHO, IMF, CODEX and the like, directly in our own interest and that of our partners around the world in both the Commonwealth and the Anglosphere at large; rather than having negotiations and term imposed by unelected EU bureacrats and their ionterpretation of the rules handed down as if they were some great achievement by the EU.
The greatest change and benefit will be political, as we improve our democracy and self determination, with the ability to deselect and elect our own Government, with an improved Westminster structure, see >Harrogate Agenda<.
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UKIP & The Art of Rigging Outcomes – A La EU!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/05/2013

UKIP & The Art of Rigging Outcomes – A  La EU!
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UKIP & The Art of Rigging Outcomes – A  La EU!

With no strategy, no tactics and no clear plan UKIP was dependent on riding a public wave not of their making and thus their local election results were unimpressive!!

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I’m given to understand that in an effort to hide the total lack of meaningful democracy within UKIP, a clever wheeze has been dreamed up!

I am reliably informed that the aim is to take a National vote as to what candidates are selected for MEP lists, which removes the influence of the better informed, on a regional basis voting for their own candidates whom they know.

The proposed system makes rigging the selection considerably easier and can be ‘passed off’ as democratic! Clearly UKIP’s leadership clique have learned from the EU that by centralising decision making and putting items to a broad, contradictory ill informed vote any decision can deliver their chosen outcome, and be claimed as democratic!

The scam is completed by making it the decision of the leader to have his puppets placed on the NEC to choose who THEY/HE wants, in terms of selection order!

Clearly this is the corruption, or if you prefer manipulation, of the outcome to suit the self serving interests of the leader and his small clique – supported by a self enriching claque of wanabes!

You will note the similarity of the scam to that of the EU, where there is a pretence of democracy based on denial of self determination by counteracting different groupings against eachother – thus no one, save the rascals rigging the scam, has any chance of receiving a democratic vote that suits them.

Thus it is clear that Farage himself can, and does, promise positions on the list to his cronies, eg. leading positions for Neil Hamilton, John Gaunt, Mike Read, etc. etc.

Just as we have seen Farage make, and fulfill, his similar corrupt methods: as with Kilroy Silk, David Bannerman, Ashley Mote, Marta Andreasen, Mark Croucher, Godfrey Bloom, Stephen Sobey, Derek Clark, Andrew Smith, Mick McGough, Annabelle Fuller and others – few of whom have proved other than corrupt, dishonest, disloyal or generally unsuitable and undesirable.

Clearly UKIP members are treated as nothing more than dummies in the process, just as I believe UKIP treats the electorate at large, except when they NEED support to keep their snouts in the troughs on the gravy train.

IF this is not a self enrichment scam perhaps someone can explain why, when an MEP is paid literally £Millions they have so few staff, pay members of their families and contribute so very little to Party funds – other than ‘investing’ in their own election or re-election!.

We are also reliably informed that this new scam will be heavily rejected by the UKIP Regional Organisers, chairmen etc. who meet this week – they go so far as to claim the system will be rejected, but having heard such claims in the past often, I fear there is little likelihood that they will be able to stick to their word or have the courage to acquit their duty – any more than the NEC has done today!

The pucilanimity of UKIP’s supposedly elected structure is not just risible but when one realises just how deliberate is the low grade caliber of ingrates in the structure it shows just how rigidly controlled and rigged this corrupt organisation is!

Little wonder that after 20 years UKIP holds less than 200 elected posts in National Governance out of around 19,500.

I appreciate that for news manipulation and particularly so that the notably left wing media could embarrass the Conservative Government and try to shake the faith of the electorate the media has made much of the fact that UKIP had 147 Councillors elected recently but they fail to tell the truth of the matter – whereby it is clear UKIP not only failed to mobilise any kind of popular revolt as they were only able, at best in ANY constituency, to manage to attract less than 8% of the electorate, due to the further collapse of electorate turnout to vote.

Evem so out of some 1,700+ candidates UKIP were only able to achieve 147 elected! Clearly only a tiny percentage of the electorate trust or choose them and the lurch to mediocrity and reduced caliber of its members and dirth of strategy, tactics or even a clear plan – let alone abject failure to clearly get across their message being just an opportunist one man band.

UKIP seems not to realise that the media are merely using them and like the electorate at large they have little respect for the party and lets face it UKIP after 20 years have in fact achieved less than 10% of the seats in which they stood after 20 years – still has not a single solitary MP, elected Mayor, Police Crime Commisioner, Assembly member or publicly recognised individual of competence or gravitas.

20 years of off the cuff rhetoric and still no intellectual rigor nor clear leadership!

UKIP, after 20 years, has failed totally to educate their own members let alone educate and influence the public at large.

After 20 years UKIP has failed totally to provide a clear exit and survival strategy for Britain, leaving the electorate wide open to the fear tactics and lies of the politicians and pro EU membership campaigners – many of whom are in the direct pay of the EU to betray Britain and our peoples – for 20 years it has been the duty of UKIP to educate and inform the electorate of the benefits we would experience when we Leave-The-EU and at that they have utterly failed.

UKIP has remained a one man band, a party of protest and complaintoffering no proper leadership and no viable solutions much beyond endless complaint and statement of the obvious – UKIP have failed for 20 years to even provide any meaningful training of its elected members, prospective candidates, staff or members, let alone the public at large.

View UKIP’s web site and you will soon realise it is all about UKIP & the interests of a small self serving clique, and an utter disinterest in detail or leadership of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU. Where are the pages of Q&A, FAQs, Bullet pointed benefits when we Leave-The-EU etc. etc.

Those who are genuinely interested in the aim of Leave-The-EU may find some of the answers they require, which UKIP has failed to address for 20 years, in the >Pages< on this web site, as listed at the head of the page and also in the Left >Side Bar<, assiduous reading of this entire web log will produce many of the answers over the years and links to further details and facts, unlike UKIP and particularly the claque of anonymous cowards endlessly trying to defame those who wish to Leave-The-EU and have seen just how much damage is doene to the likelihood of that cause by the ineptitude and self interest of UKIP!

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UKIP Racism, The Social Services & Common Purpose

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/11/2012

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Farage & UKIP Forget Spin Is Based on Facts!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/10/2012

Farage & UKIP Forget Spin Is Based on Facts!
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Farage &amp; UKIP Forget Spin Is Based on Facts!

Let us look at the crass and largely dishonest witterings from UKIP irresponsibly published in The Sun presumably by some low grade and over paid staffer in UKIP for to realise that UKIP’s leader would be so crass would compound the damage done by UKIP and the realisation that not only is Farage utterly incompetent as a leader but is bereft of political nouse – reliant only on low cunning to perpetuate his self enrichment!!

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having alluded to a particularly dishonest article published in The Sun on Sunday in the name of Nigel Farage in a blog regarding the idiotic comments made on his behalf to an Iranian media organisation, pressumably by one of his low grade staff – I have been contacted by a couple of people (possibly both of the people who read this blog, within minutes of new material being posted 😉 and have been asked why I claimed The Sun article was such dishonest and crass spin!

In searching for the article on The Sun’s web site I came across a couple of other relevant articles which were of some consequence rather than the light weight self promoting and fanciful spin from UKIP.

  •  YouGov/Sun poll today: Labour lead extended to 13 points; Lab 45%, Con 32%, LDs and UKIP tied on 8%. Cameron’s #Gategate slump.
    by Sun_politics via twitter 7:47 AM yesterday
    Based upon their irrelevance and the stupidity of its leadership it is clear that The LibDim results have collapsed, in that in polls they have sunk to the risible level of UKIP!
  •  William Hague in EU walkout hint bit.ly
    by Sun_politics via twitter 6:55 AM yesterday
    This seems to have firmed up a bit since and although it is not to be trusted it does seem that the faction considering leaving The EU is higher on the agenda than ever before – thanks largely to the ineptitude of The EU and the well publicised achievements of Katie Hopkins & Nikki Sinclaire & their team – particularly the 250,000 signatures for an IN/OUT Referendum Nikki Sinclaire’s team had achieved and the full de3bate in the House of Commons she managed to force the Government into, which led to a consequential rebellion and resignations in the ranks of The Tory Party.
Let us consider the entire article attributed to Nigel Farage, in The Sun, and which I have fisked below:

 NIGEL FARAGE: David Cameron’s Euro pledge is a load of Brussels spouts

Nigel Farage and David Cameron

Caricature … Nigel Farage and David Cameron
>What a foolish cartoon with neither protagonist being portrayed in a manner that looks like them though I am glad that Farage is still using the emblem of the £ logo which I launched originally by having 10,000 made and distributed – clearly to good effect as it is still in use and the only emblem of UKIP recognisable to the public at large.

Some may remember that the emblem was also adopted by the Tories for a short time when William Hague was leader.

This was about the time Carys Pugh, Betty Bowen and I launched the ‘Just Say NO’ campaign that was so narrowly and dishonestly defeated in the Welsh devolution scam – a campaign slogan adopted and sold to UKIP by Dick Morris as some may recall.

By NIGEL FARAGE, Guest Columnist
Published: 21st October 2012

CABINET-rank ministers, in an unprecedented revolt against the official party line, are daring to suggest Britain might walk out of Europe.

NO  this is NOT an unprecedented action there have been Cabinet Ministers in the governments of Anthony Eden, Harold MacMillan, Harold Wilson, Ted Heath, Jim Callaghan, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair/Brown and now Cameron who have had the patriotic integrity to uphold the British Constitution and advocate leaving The EU.

Meanwhile Tory MPs with marginal seats are squealing in alarm

I hear no squealing and clearly Farage’s party can not have it both ways! On the one hand their proud boast is that they take votes from both main parties and now they seek to pretend they have a significant effect on only The Tories!

at polls showing UKIP’s campaign for an IN-or-OUT referendum has won huge public support.

This is a particularly distasteful lie as UKIP has absolutely ZERO campaign for an IN/OUT Referendum in fact they have absolutely ZERO visible campaign on anything – campaigning being something they have proved spectacularly incompetent at!

Let us not forget that they even lacked a domestic campaign on the EU Constitution which was passed as The Lisbon Treaty with barely a murmur from UKIP until AFTER the event in Britain!

Presumably Farage is alluding to the very successful campaign that Nikki Sinclaire and her team managed and are still running despite the serial efforts of Farage’s Party to sabotage it!

Could the two developments by any chance be related?

The only tie between the two developements would seem to be the fantasies Farage’s party wish to dupe people into believing!

UKIP don’t even have a viable policy as an Exit and Survival Strategy – They would seem to have no understanding of strategy and little comprehension of tactics, no skill at team building and no interest or ability in terms of man management, loyalty building or basic political training.

Conservatives have suddenly woken up to the increasingly probability that my party will win the 2014 European elections.

And as Farage’s Party, as he has here defined it!, may possibly do well in the EU elections where the huge majority of the British peoples have no idea of who their MEP is and absolutely no idea of how the structure works. UKIP have shown, better than anyone, the utter irrelevance of election to The EU where Britain were the voice of its politicians be united as ONE would have only an 8% influence.

Who wins the EU elections is a complete irrelevance and of no material influence save to those able to enrich themselves from the public purse as with UKIP who have had and squandered £50 Million of tax payers’ money yet mouth meaningless mantras about how political parties should not be funded from taxation yet are utterly dependent on that source of income for personal gain!

More to the point, they are terrified Mr Cameron will be robbed again of outright victory in 2015 as Tory voters choose us or stay home.

The Tories were not ‘robbed’ of an outright victory they failed abysmally to earn one and as for UKIP influencing the situation it was only the lies and dishonesty of Mark Croucher, Nigel Farage and a handful of utterly dishonest members of their clique that capuitalised on the protest vote that came about relative to secondary allowances for MPs and arguably UKIP actions underpinned the election of their chums in The BNP whose profile they hugely elevated with lies about Dr. David Abbott, Dr, Eric Edmonds, Buster Motram and Martin Hasslam!

In any case, can we believe a word “Cast Iron Dave” says about a referendum after his previous broken promise?

Another lie! David Cameron gave a cast iron promise that he would hold a referendum IF The Lisbon Treaty had NOT been ratified by the time he came to power – that he did this in the knowledge that the chances of it NOT being ratified was indeed miniscule but he did NOT lie. Unlike Nigel Farage and his party who have been shown and proven to be serial liars of very low morality and less integrity.

The Prime Minister and his Foreign Secretary, William Hague, are rattling sabres at Brussels and demanding the return of sovereign power over welfare, immigration and justice.

Well that is at least a start and when they fail, as The EU is NOT a smorgas board where you can choose what you take on your plate and leave that which you find inedible, they will then be in a position to live up to their threats or live down to our expectations!

But what, as Michael Gove asks, do we do if they say NO?

A strange question in the light of the fact even Farage took heed of Michael Gove’s response!

The Eurosceptic Education Secretary says we can walk out.

But that is not what Mr Cameron thinks or says.

Yet we note that Cameron has NOT castigated his education secretary or others for speaking out and let us hope he, unlike Farage, has some understanding of  strategy and a tactical plan!

He is on the record insisting categorically that he will never lead a campaign for Britain to leave Europe.

I believe that you will find the legislation already determines that a political party can not take such a role be that for or against in a referendum!

So say Labour’s Ed Miliband and the Lib Dems’ Nick Clegg.

That Ed Milliband has made such comments is as clear a statement of support for membership of The EU as is the overt promotion of membership we see from Nick Clegg and about as significant!

Which means all this referendum talk is hot air.

E$ven hot air would prove an increase of activity towards leaving the EU than UKIP has provided for the tax payers’ £50 Million over the last 19 years!

If they do try and bring back hundreds of important powers ceded to Brussels over the years, Brussels will certainly say NO.

Yet it is the fools in UKIP who advocate a quick fix repeal of the ECA and immediate withdrawal – you will note the Judas Goats and plastic EUroSceptics are all too willing to promote this proposal by UKIP – clearly aware of what a catastrophic debacle UKIP would achieve for the patriotic cause of EUroRealism when they lost, as they most certainly would.

With the Euro in flames, why would they turn a drama into an existential crisis by allowing Britain to unravel their carefully tied Gordian knot?

Largely, in my opinion, because it would seem that it is only the British public who are speaking out and consistently showing the failure of The EUro, the idiocy of a centralised currency and the odious undemocratic nature of the EU and its aims and methods.

Our relationship with the EU underpins almost everything that happens in Britain today, from how our doctors are trained and how they work, to whether the WI and Red Cross volunteers can sell jam at their fundraising fetes.

And it is unarguable that UKIP has done almost nothing to raise that level of knowledge by anywhere approaching value for money the £50 Million or so of tax payers’ money they have squandered. They have lived high on the hog on a self enrichment scheme, should I say scam, with their snouts in the troughs on the EU gravy train.

It tells us what to grow, how to fish, it tells us who we can trade with and how we should employ people.

Where is the web site or published documents of UKIP with the errors and abuses of The EU – where is their index of crass regulations – what number can one call locally where UKIP would or could help expose the excesses of The EU for UKIP was far too busy engorging itself in those excesses!

It decides on our holidays, on our lightbulbs, it regulates how to use ladders and whether we can kick out terrorists through the European Court of Human Rights, now an integral part of the European Union.

And UKIP has for several years proved just how irrelevant they are in altering this or influencing this as they are so embroilled and subsumed in The EU parliament, structure and pocket as to have achieved not one single solitary achievement in their 20 years, that has brought these United Kingdoms one inch closer to the exit!

They know a victorious Cameron negotiation would lead inevitably to other member states demanding similar or different concessions.

There are few Countries that could afford to leave as they have become so dependent on the bribes and handouts as to be drug dependent on the hand outs!

There is even a fear put about by corrupt politicians that Britain would be hugely damaged were it to leave and that even though this can be disproved – it is then sabre rattled that in the decades ahead we would be marginalised!!

This is precisely contrary to everything those gravy-train Eurocrats have been beavering away for over the last four decades.

It is widely talked of that much of the beavering is carried out by UKIP and its staff!!

They have not gathered enormous and continually expanding power to the centre in order to give it back, ever.

And UKIP has totally failed to make this point clear to other politicians, organisations and the public at large – despite some £50 Million paid from the public purse, despite the funding UKIP still has not a single valid item of material to promote the cost benefits of leaving The EU – Nor any strategy or tactics towards a viable or plausible exit and survival strategy!

Perhaps Mr Cameron secretly hopes to encourage a slap in the face from EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso as a pretext for a proper IN-OUT referendum.

Meanwhile UKIP fiddles and faffs around sponsoring apparent incitement to racial hatred.

Perhaps he is more of a Eurosceptic than anyone had previously believed.

Let us hope Cameron has the ability to acquit his duty in a patriotic manner.

If so, his bluff will certainly be called.

Let us hope his bluff is a part of a strategy, though I personally am inclined to doubt it!

Mr Barroso has learned nothing and forgotten nothing since his days as a firebrand Maoist agitator.

WRONG – clearly Barroso has learned much about stealth and bribery and like Farage ensuring he has a claque of over funded weak but ambitious scoundrels!

Just last month he confirmed what was long suspected but always denied — that the EU can only survive as a full-blown federal superstate.

It has been shown clearly that despite these claims The EU central power group have always openly stated their aims – one need only read the speeches and articles of the likes of Spinnelli, Monet and their ilk!

If you prefer read Dr. Richard North and Christopher Booker’s publications, the speeches of Enoch Powell or the white papers on the subject of 1948 & 1949 (the earlies British involvement I have personally found).

Anyone who gets in the way of this Grand Project will be cast aside or crushed.

Let us not forget many of us have actively campaigned for Britain to be cast aside and many also voted UKIP MEPs into positions to ensure our membership of the EU is crushed!

Under a new EU Treaty, Brussels will demand absolute loyalty from member states — one country, one army, one treasury, one flag, one anthem, one loyalty and one future.

If studied closely you will find they have already put this in place in The Lisbon Treaty and the only viable exit within the law, under The Vienna Treaty on International Treaties is under Article #50.

Some sceptics, such as Open Europe, oppose a referendum because they are nervous voters might lock us in forever because they are too fearful of being outside.

Open EUrope is little more than a cats paw of the pro EU membership faction of the government and its role is duplicitous in many aspects!

Quite the reverse.

With the Euro disintegrating, unemployment soaring, pensions and prosperity in freefall, there is more likely to be a stampede for the exit, with others in hot pursuit.

This clearly lacks the clarification that it relates to OTHER EU member regions other than these United Kingdoms, part of The EUroZone.

Once out we would be free to float and flourish.

There would be an immediate bounce and indeed not just a mini boom but an increase of jobs – to sustain this will take many years of careful analysis and revocation of such laws as Britain may have adopted through membership of the EU.

To reassure business and also to gain the co-operation of our own civil servants and assistance in disentanglement it would be essential to block adopt ALL the laws and regulations we currently hold by way and result of our current membership.

To undertake and reassure that we would line by line analyse the issues and then if decided dismantle the alien laws thus imposed one by one in co-operation with our EUropean and global partners as we rebuild and repatriate justice, and our sovereignty on terms of self determination.

With a population soon set to exceed Germany’s, Britain would be too big a market to ignore, still less punish.

The EU would not for one moment ‘ignore’ these United kingdoms as a trading partner any more than would India, China, South America or the Anglosphere!

Europe is an outdated economic and political union which, as it stands, cannot compete in a fast-changing world economy.

How true but sadly UKIP has expended most of its energies not on informing the public but in jockeying and back stabbing to stay on the gravy train enriching themselves from the liberal dollops from the troughs yet doing little or nothing for Britain.

Britain would not simply survive outside, we would flourish.

This is just words when stated by the Farage Party who have achieved nothing of gravitas or plausible and sound material towards an exit and survival strategy!

And the sooner we have that chance, the better.

One is left with the realisation that when Farage (or his script writers) are not telling lies, distorting or outright self servingly acting in their own personal interest their criticisms of The EU cut no ice and lack readily available documentary provenance and cross referncing giving the impression they just aren’t up to the job!

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I trust my diagnosis helps and ensures a widert audience of people who will investigate in detail just how we should go about leaving the EU rather than the simplistic and undocumented and very costly hot air from UKIP.
On route may I commend consideration of A Royal Commission, The Harrogate Agenda, the ‘We Demand A Referendum’ campaign, adoption of EU law as being the laws and regulations of these United Kingdoms when we leave the EU and then a schedule of ratification or revocation of each and every law and regulation one by one ensuring the best interests of the British peoples are concerned.

Join in the discussions, argue your view and let us all work towards a better future with self determination and democratically established sovereignty on the global stage.

YOU can make life better for your children and the grand children of these United Kingdoms in a free, competitive and independent sovereign nation.
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New anti-EU political party launches

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Nikki Sinclaire’s new group is not so much anti EU as pro democracy & believes a Royal Commission followed by a fully informed, free, balance and fair referendum is the ONLY way to ensure the voice of the people is heard and not just the self interest of corrupted politicians (bought & paid for from OUR taxes)!

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New anti-EU political party launches in UK

by Nikki Sinclaire

18 September 2012 
 
Mainstream parties will be under threat at the ballot box in 2014 as the new movement attempts to tap into the strength of anti-EU feeling among British voters – claims MEP

The time has now come for the people of Britain to be given the chance to have a proper debate on one of the most important decisions the country must face – should we continue as an independent nation or be part of a single European state? Thousands upon thousands of people have signed our petition calling for an “in or out” referendum. Opinion poll after opinion poll continues to show that we – the ordinary people of the United Kingdom – want our say on the European Union.

Yet, for some reason, continuous governments have consistently and deliberately ignored our views on Europe with repeated excuses of why we should not have a referendum. Why are they so afraid of the people? Why won’t they let us decide? And why do they continue to patronise us with their ‘we know better’ attitude? We have thought long and hard about what our next step should be as a movement dedicated to making sure the people of Britain have a say in their future. So we have decided that to truly get the government to sit up and take notice, we must threaten them at the ballot box and show them the strength of public opinion on this issue.

After nearly two years of working as the Campaign for a Referendum, we now have more than 200,000 signatories and an army of constituency activists; the largest mobile network of supporters ever amassed for an EU referendum. Nothing this size has been seen since the Referendum Party and the late Sir Jimmy Goldsmith, whose pioneering baton was recklessly dropped after his death in 1997. So it is to this end that a new political entity has been established and registered with the Electoral Commission in Britain to represent the mainstream view that the UK should have the right to a referendum on its continued membership of the EU.

On September 13, we submitted the latest 100,000 signatures to 10 Downing Street. In doing so, we challenged British Prime Minister David Cameron and the government to enable an ‘in or out’ vote by 2014. The people must have the chance to vote for a referendum ahead of the next European elections in 2014. We are picking up this vitally important baton for the citizens of Britain and, this time, we will keep a firm grip on it until we have crossed the finishing line.

Candidates will stand under a united banner declaring: “We demand a referendum – let the people decide. They will share a single aim – to force a decisive referendum on the issue of Europe. We need to settle the debate once and for all. You might be asking why we are not simply endorsing an anti-Europe party in 2014. The answer is simple. It is because our campaign has, from the start, been completely politically neutral. In doing so, we have brought together people from across the political spectrum to achieve things that otherwise would not have been possible.

The importance of forcing a referendum is far bigger than any party. We strive to go beyond party politics, which is why it is important to let the people make decisions – not the politicians. It is up to us to honour our duty to do everything within our power to enable a referendum. We will have far greater success if we can first deliver the answer to the question that no other party is asking – do we want in, or out, of Europe? It is up to the citizens of the UK to decide.

Nikki Sinclaire is an independent MEP representing the West Midlands, in the United Kingdom, and spearheads the new political movement Let the People Decide

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UKIP, CIB, TFA etc. are so befouled by association

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UKIP, CIB, TFA etc. are so befouled by association
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UKIP, CIB, TFA etc. are so befouled by association with liars, cheats & low lifes like of Mick McGough!
UKIP is demeaned by such people & by association with The EFD & failure to root out the corrupt in its own leadership clique and its claque of corrupt self seekers!

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with at least 25% of the topics & conversation on one of the UKIP controlled Forums being desperate attempts to defame both Junius & this blog for daring to be patriotic, principled supporters of the ideals of the bulk of those, who like us, who support UKIP’s aim to Leave-The-EU which has quite clearly been subsumed by greed, corruption and self interest of its embarrassment in the leadership clique and its claque of self serving wannabes hovering around the honey pot seeking crumbs from the tables on the EU gravy train.
We now have one of the fools in this claque too ashamed to put his name to his naive comment:
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Mick, do you realise how few people read or even know of Junius/GLW?
In fact you probably help their readership by keeping threads like this going.
Just ignore them.
If you think they are writing lies, then who cares.
How very true – but how staggeringly silly in its political naivity – politicians seek numbers as shown by the crass who gather around The Farage Party, which offers no meaningful hope having been a spectacular failure with less than 30 people elected to office out of the 19,500 or so seats available by election in British politics and it has taken 20 years to achieve that!
What the foolish little chap hasn’t understood is that it couldn’t matter less how many of the several 100,000 people who read our blogs actually do know of us, with Junius running at approaching 1/4 Million hits a year and my blogs well into 100s of 1,000s, it is a matter of the quality of those opinion formers who read them.
It is also worth noting how many sites mirror our blogs and howmany on post them or quote them. On one of the UKIP controlled Forums our blogs and ourselves feature in at least 1/3rd of all UKIP postings!
But yet again – who cares how many read our blogs or Twitters it is a matter of calliber and relevance and that would seem to be a good percentage of the total.
As with Twitter where the irrelevancy of followers is matched by the general stupidity of most tweets – hence I TRY to keep those I follow to under 50 so that I can read their posts (unlike the idiotic who obviously read very little following 1,000s) similarly as my Tweets are published on the side bar of my blogs and web sites they are read by many more than those willing to risk the attacks of UKIP leadership claque and the nutters from the Hollie Greig hoax or the McCann publicity machine who do not want to be on the list but clearly read the entries.
Take for instance someone like stephen Fry – who cares what he Tweets? or who is interested in what Nigel Farage’s staff Tweet for him and obviously his Twitter account is dishonest as who on earth has the time to read all those incoming Tweets he merely lets people be on his list to flatter them for political gain. One wonders what percentage of his followers either read his staff’s output or are even in Britain!
Better to be read by one individual of influence and consequence than 10,000 fools!
Ill informed as he is this cowardly poster sheltering in anonymity has not twigged the value of a searchable archive of facts and related views. Nor it seems has he any awareness of the number of mainstream media stories that have been in the media as a result of these two blogs.
No doubt the foolish little fellow is unaware that it was as a direct result of my postings and relentless exposure of corruption that Tom Wise UKIP MEP was eventually put in prison and consider the number of facts regarding corruption that first surfaced in the public domain on these two blogs.
It is our clearly avowed aim to expose the corruption, lies, self enrichment, self interest and utter incompetence of UKIP leadership and its claque of corrupt fools that is at the core of our postings – the aim is to CLEAN-UP UKIP to hopefully make it electable to lead & champion the cause of Leave-The-EU, which it has clearly failed to do.
UKIP had some great (if slow in coming) achievements in the early days reaching its zenith with Roger Knapman at the helm in 2004 – it had effectively, through use of such campaigning as was advocated by Dick Morris – And yes of course what he said was obvious and as with any simple principles nothing he said was new or even his own ideas BUT he put it together for UKIP members in a form they were able to take on board.
WHAT has UKIP achieved since 2004? It had 12 MEPs and all that potential and went on to become a total embarrassment currently up to its neck in half baked policies and pretence to be a political party (we need another political party like a hole in the head) when what we need is leadership to Leave-The-EU.
All that UKIP has achieved since 2004 is a series of thefts by its MEPs and their staff and the rise to control of half wits and political idiots like Mick McGough, Malcolm Pearson, Stuart Agnew, Derek Clark, Gerard Batten, Stuart Parr, Steve Crowther and the list goes on!
Results at the polls in British politics speak volumes with UKIP bumping along averaging out at between 3 & 6% of the actual votes at the ballot box after 20 years!
For trying to CLEAN-UP the party we support to make it electable it is little wonder the clique does not wish to be exposed and their claque are in overdrive with lies, defamatory comments and serial desperation to silence the steady flow of information from Junius and my blogs.
Predictably the response of the proven liar who has stooped to criminality to silence the truth Mick McGough was not long in coming to the quote of the anonymous half wit which I posted above!
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I just want it clearly stated they are liers however small the readership

It would be funny if it were not so sad that this liar McGough has licence as an NEC member in UKIP and part of the hangers on with CIB & bean counter at TFA to keep dragging thes organisations into the gutters he inhabits.
Grovelling when Brahms & Liszt?
For details and cross referenced fact regarding the odious little man CLICK HERE a search of this blog (Search Bar: Top of Right side column or CLICK HERE)
OK it is irrefutably proven that this low life pest Mick McGough is a liar, a cheat and willing to demean himself and his associates with his comments and behaviour and to think he has conned his way onto UKIP’s NEC and uis seemingly respected by the illinformed and less intelligent UKIP members who are clearly unaware of the damage he does.
Lets face it this odious little man is exposed and banged to rights with substantive, corroborated, cross referenced facts as a liar, a cheat, corrupt, dishonest and happy to act criminally to gain his self interested ambitions.
This is not a dredge through half informed ancient history and missquotes, this is not smears and innuendo, this is not dishonest implications, nor idiotic fantasies presented as fact but actual fact backed by hard evidence – yet in the name of UKIP this odious excrecence of a man comes out with this comment:
‘I just want it clearly stated they are liers however small the readership’
OK McGough please identify a single solitary lie of any deliberate nature or material consequence that has appeared on either my blog or that of Junius – minded of the facts CLICK HERE
Mick McGough you are a contemptible serial liar and/or a natural low life as you have shown and has been proven – sadly you are not the only one in UKIP’s claque or its leadership clique with the likes of Derek Clark, David Bannerman, Marta Andreasen, Gawain Towler, Godfrey Bloom, Douglas Denny, Lisa Duffy, Gerard Batten, Peter Reeve, Mark Croucher, Tom Wise and so many more.
Little wonder UKIP in its present state has shown itself to be no part of the solution with consistently low support at the ballot box for British politics and is in fact a very major part of the problem related to our membership of The EU and public desire to Leave-The-EU.
UKIP has lost all credibility in British politics as the ballot box shows. Yet it is noted these low lifes are welcome with open arms by the extremists, racists, anti Jewish, anti Muslim, anti homosexual, advocates of membership of the EU with reform & improvement of control over vassal regions, advocates of violent xenophobia and the utter scum of EUropean politics – what an embarrassment for Britain that UKIP are in cahoots with such trash in The Pan EU Political EFD Group!
But McGough clearly has some pretty questionable friends
I note Paul Weston of the British Freedom Party seen by many as extremist & racist:  http://t.co/e55TLcSK read their material & judge for yourself: CLICK HERE
And then people wonder what I mean by CLEAN-UP UKIP to make it fit for decent informed individuals to vote for to lead or at least parade the values of Leave-The-EU.
Rather than listen to the low lifes of UKIP leadership clique and its odious claque why not take me up on my offer of many years standing – either phone me or arrange to meet me and check THE FACTS.
I am firmly on record as offering to be cross examined regarding the facts I publish on my blogs at any public meeting I can reasonably attend where I will be all too happy to contribute to my aims to work for the cause of Leave-The-EU and towards that aim to seek to Clean-Up UKIP and expose corruption, dishonesty and deceit in public office towards better Governance of Britain and the peoples of these United Kingdoms by the peoples of these United Kingdoms in Britain as a sovereign and independent nation.
The likes of proven liars and self serving low lifes like Mick McGough are clearly bringing UKIP, CIB, TFA etc. into disrepute and hugely assisting The EU by undermining the credibility of the EUroSceptic Movement.
UKIP leadership and the perception it is The Farage Party and the dictatorial controls held by Farage and his clique similarly give a clear air of corruption to add to the already obvious corruption of UKIP as it now is with the incredibly low calliber of its officers, staff and claque does absolutely nothing to help the EUroSceptic cause and it is an undeniable fact that UKIP is of great help to The EU in providing the semblance and pretence of democracy in that they can claim there is an opposition in the EU yet when that opposition jumps through every EU hoop to enrich its leadership and is seen at best as a bunch of inept clowns and at worst as a self serving clique of corrupt fools it does nothing for the aspirations of others to Leave-The-EU.
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Farage gets some political coverage of value!

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Nigel Farage gets some political coverage in The Telegraph of value!
It is rare to see an article from UKIP of any calliber!!

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The time will never be right for David Cameron to hold a referendum on the EU

The Prime Minister should explain why Britain can’t vote on continued membership of the failing European Union

Nigel Farage: 'Once again, I challenge the Prime Minister to have an open debate with me on why he believes we must stay part of this failing, corrupt EU. The future of our nation is at stake. Mr Cameron, you have my phone number'

Nigel Farage: ‘I challenge the Prime Minister to have an open debate with me on why he believes we must stay part of this failing, corrupt EU. The future of our nation is at stake. Mr Cameron, you have my phone number’ Photo: Eddie Mulholland

By Nigel Farage

8:10PM BST 05 Jul 2012

I have had enough of being told that we will have an EU referendum “when the time is right”. The time has come for a real debate: I challenge the Prime Minister to debate with me why he will not give us a say on our relationship with the European Union.

Anyone following David Cameron’s recent twists and turns on the EU could be forgiven for feeling dizzy. At one time, there was a “cast-iron guarantee” of a referendum. Then, last year, he three-line-whipped Conservative MPs to oppose the idea of holding one. Events last week did nothing to add clarity. On Friday in Brussels, with Angela Merkel looming over him, we were told that there would be no referendum. But 48 hours later, in an article in The Sunday Telegraph, he suggested that a referendum might be a possibility, though not just yet.

There is one note of total consistency. On at least half a dozen occasions, the Prime Minister has been clear that there will not be – must not be – a choice of whether we stay in or leave the EU.

The explanation is that it is in our interests to remain a member, so it does not matter what voters think. It’s a case of “I, David Cameron, have made up my mind.” This assertion, shared by almost the entire political class, must be questioned in an open debate. Those of us who have dared to challenge the consensus have been mocked and derided, but opinion polls now show that the British people do not want to be part of a political union.

The Prime Minister overstates the benefits of EU membership. I believe we would be better off out. My parents’ generation voted to remain a part of a Common Market which they believed to be a free-trade agreement that would not impinge on our rights of self-government. We were conned in 1975 and we must not allow that to be repeated today.

Mr Cameron claims that 3.5 million British jobs depend on us remaining part of the European Union. This comment always goes undisputed. It is based on the number of jobs dependent on exports to the EU and assumes that leaving the union would mean no further business between us and the EU – an incredibly weak, illogical argument. In 2010, the EU sold us £50 billion worth of goods more than we sold them. In short, they need us more than we need them. There is no chance of Mercedes, for example, refusing to sell us cars if we amicably divorce ourselves from political union.

The EU is a Seventies solution to a Fifties problem. The world has moved on since the “Common Market”, with World Trade Organisation agreements guaranteeing trading terms. Countries like Norway, Switzerland and even Mexico have free trade deals with the EU. Trade will continue as it does now with consumers making their choices in the marketplace. We are the world’s fifth-largest trading nation and yet, incredibly, we are banned from negotiating our own trade deals around the world. Ukip believes the Commonwealth is a good place to start, with its shared ties, common law, common language and a growth rate that outstrips our European neighbours.

But the benefits of leaving do not stop there. One of the most contentious issues in UK politics is immigration. With new arrivals running at 600,000 a year, the public demands that something must be done. But there is a problem. EU membership means that we have an open-door policy for our poorer European neighbours and a benefits system that encourages people to come here.

I was asked last week what I thought about new figures showing that Britain was the favoured destination for asylum seekers. I replied that 14,000 asylum seekers make up a small percentage of the total number of immigrants. Only by leaving the EU can we control our borders and apply a sensible and fair work permit scheme. My party is often accused of being anti-immigration. We are not. Work permits would allow talented, qualified people from all over the world a chance to contribute to the future of this country. Australia does it and so should we.

The other thing I am often asked about is human rights. Whether the issue is votes for prisoners or the failure to deport criminals on the spurious grounds of a “right to a family life”, our Government and courts are impotent. Highly paid, politicised lawyers will tell you that the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg is separate to the EU. That is no longer true. EU membership demands acceptance of all ECHR judgments and the EU intends to become a signatory in its own right, as part of the Lisbon Treaty. While we remain part of the EU, the chances of us wrestling back British judicial powers are slim.

I am pessimistic, however, that any of these serious issues will be addressed. My prediction is that Mr Cameron will be given one small, paltry concession from the EU over workers’ rights and will then present this as a victory of renegotiation. A referendum promise in the next Tory election manifesto on any “new package” would leave us exactly where we are now, still governed by Brussels, still unable to make our own laws and still paying £50 million a day for the “privilege” of belonging to this undemocratic club.

Once again, I challenge the Prime Minister to have an open debate with me on why he believes we must stay part of this failing, corrupt EU. The future of our nation is at stake. Mr Cameron, you have my phone number.

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The article is somewhat sabotaged, whether deliberately or not is hard to tell when at one moment members are told Steve Crowther has quit as an executive of UKIP having accepted the blame for the total debacle that was UKIP’s Local Election campaign and the risible results last May when out of 4,796 seats were up for election and UKIP were such a spectacular failure after 20 years only winning 9!
Yet consider this ‘e’Mail:
Steve Crowther
A Farage makeweight Placeman!

Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:11:12 +0100

Subject: Comment on Nigel’s article
From: Steve Crowther <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>
To: UKIP ROs 2011 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>,
  UKIP Regional Chairmen 2011 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>,
  UKIP NEC 2012 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>,
  UKIP MEPs 2011 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>
Thread-Topic: Comment on Nigel’s article

Dear All

PLEASE ADD A COMMENT BELOW NIGEL’S ARTICLE IN THE D TEL TODAY: THE MORE THEY GET, THE MORE THEY ARE LIKELY TO ASK FOR MORE ARTICLES FROM HIM.

Farage challenges Cameron to a debate on Europe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9378567/The-time-will-never-be-right-for-David-Cameron-to-hold-a-referendum-on-the-EU.html

Regards, Steve

Stephen Crowther, Chairman, UK Independence Party
Eastacombe House, Heanton, Barnstaple, N. Devon EX31 4DG
Phone 01271 813844 Mobile 07775 787579

Such rank amateurism is staggering and surely can not be for real!
Even for UKIP this is just naff – don’t forget the letter writting campaign and pressure brought on the media by Edward Heath in his betrayal of Britain campaign to surrender to vassal status in The EU (EEC at the time) at least he ensured that did not become common knowledge for many years out of simple professionalism!
Yes of course it was good to see an article of this length on this subject on The Telegraph web site earlier this morning but to see it undermined by UKIP leadership themselves within just a matter of hours speaks volumes of UKIP’s complete ineptitude, incompetence and clear lack of fitness for the task of leading Britain to Leave-The-EU – UKIP is unfit for purpose in its present form with its present incompetent leadership and extremist associates!
To be fair it covers various points but like many of my own articles uses too many words!It is unfortunate that Nigel Farage lacks the leadership qualities to attract and retain the staff of sufficient callier to work for him as researchers and speech writers and thus much of what he writes and says is off the cuff and just doesn’t hit the spot.
That Farage is leader of a pro EU membership reformist Pan EU group of the extreme righ wing, with criminal associates with convictions for child abuse, fraud, theft, assault, racism, anti Judaism, anti Islamism, anti homosexual and that his own party fails to follow his lead in many instances deeply undermines what little credibility he can still muster having fallen out with even his own placements amongst his MEPs and on his NEC.
Yes of course this is much better than his normal material, as all too often that is just reportage by others of the most noticeable aspects of Farage and his party, their louche and crass behaviour, their idiotic posturing, their complete lack of gravitas or political nouse or failing all else Farage’s testicles – It is almost unheard of to find a serious article espousing the principles of Leave-The-EU emanating from Farage or UKIP but then again in 20 years they have failed to debate, design and demand an exit and survival strategy for when we do Leave-The-EU, as we surely will if for no other reason than it will continue to fail and eventually collapse most probably dragging Britain into the vile morass it is working towards!
The article in todays Telegraph, as ever, fails to reasure the timerous or show WHY Britain will be Better-Off-Out and it is clear tyhere is no individual of stature, gravitas and competence to lead the Leave-The-EU side of the referendum, currently in the public eye.
There is also no visible way shown as to how the ‘Political Elte’ and the others who betray these United Kingdoms for their own gain can be prevented from cheating to ensure they can claim a victory and leave Britain in bonded status as vassals of the malign self serving self enriching mechanism of The EU as a supra national state bereft of democracy of any meaningful standards deserving of the name4 or even the fundamental human right of ‘self determination’ as enshrined in The UN Charter!
The article published in Farage’s name fails to show WHY we will be Better-Off-Out nor the exit and survival strategy to Leave-The-EU. Due to this sadly it merely comes across as a showman seeking attention and yet again lacks gravitas or plausibility.
That is not to gainsay it is better than having not been published – Let us hope a better calliber of script writer can be found to write his next article for him.
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Greg_L-W..
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